♪ >> a little gospel, that's right. ♪ everybody here just praise >> wake up, good morning. >> what is that? >> that's clapping from church. come on. come on! that's marvin sapling, we ought to drag him to the pastor's church. >> he's from texas and knows about gospel music. >> i'm just so happy this morning. >> it's a little reunion here on the set. let's get right to our panel this morning. john fugelsang joins us, comedian and radio personality and new daddy, his baby is 1 week old. >> that's something to clap for. >> this is dinnertime here. >> he doesn't sleep at all basically. will cain, cnn contributor and contributor to theblaze.com and roland martin, political

analyst. 7:00 a.m. eastern and 6:00 a.m. in illinois. one of the most important primary, illinois, that's what we say always, 54 delegates at stake in the primary and the winner is expected to capture the bulk of the delegates. it will be the biggest haul since the georgia primary that happened earlier this month. mitt romney looking to pad his commanding lead in the delegate chase. rick santorum we spoke to the santorum campaign yesterday really hoping to burst governor romney's bubble and the two are going at each other in their own form of chicago style politics. listen. >> we're not going to be successful in replacing an economic lightweight with another economic lightweight. >> do you really believe this country wants to elect a wall street financier as president of the united states? do you think that's the kind of experience we need? >> what is a financier? what is that pronunciation? >> i guarantee you he was down state talking to a lot of the conservative areas as opposed to in chicago.

>> financier. >> sounds french to me. >> rick santorum also making a case a win for him today could be the beginning of the end for mitt romney. listen. >> if we are able to do what i know most people think is impossible, which is to carry the state of illinois, that will fundamentally change this election like no other contest to date. it will put us in a position where they'll stop talking about delegates and start talking about how are we going to stop rick santorum from being the nominee. >> well, nothing is impossible. but a new poll says it's very, very, very, very unlikely. american research group shows that governor romney has 44% of the vote, up nine points from a different poll that took place about two weeks ago. senator santorum is at 30% so you're looking at a 14 point difference there. first thing to look for, do you think, will cain, in the state of illinois? >> i want to know the cnn

election in numbers guru john king was on 360 and showed the long odds that rick santorum has not to win the nomination but to even deny mitt romney the ability to win the nomination so my question, and i know you're going to be talking to ryan, but what pressure is on rick santorum to get out of the race? what is the point? >> is it a bad strategy at all to be looking for a spoiler for the party as a whole? >> it's not a bad strategy. in sports you play until the clock says 0:00. only in politics do they say until you've got enough delegates, drop out. >> maybe you want your bigger team to win ultimately. >> and sometimes you're running for presidents and stimgz you are sometimes you're running for higher public speaking fees. >> you got to win it to win it. >> rebring in rnc chairman, i feel like we're doing it again, it's tuesday. must be time for rice.

>> i appreciate you having me. >> like i said -- >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say give me an -- >> i have my -- >> we're having a little mixup with our delay on the satellite. let's talk illinois. fill me in on what the republican electorate looks like in the state of illinois and i know there's sort of a north/south difference so explain that for us as well. >> well, it's like a lot of states. you have the one huge city with the metropolitan area and everywhere else. you have a chicago and a chicago suburb area. you've got milwaukee and the surrounding area, where i come from, and everywhere else and you have the same thing in illinois. it's an important contest, i agree with what you all were chatting about before i got on. i think it's an important day in the republican primary. it's a huge amount of delegates for one state and these guys are battling it out and they are going basically one on one, so i

think that today's outcome will be important. >> all right, so let's talk about the campaign trail yesterday, as we look backward a little bit. this is what governor romney said about the economy improving. listen. >> i believe the economy is coming back, by the way. we'll see what happens. it's had ups and downs. i think it's finally coming back. the economy always comes back after a recession, of course. there's never been one that we didn't recover from. the problem is, this one has been deeper than it needed to be, and a slower recovery than it should have been by virtue of the policies of this president. >> if, in fact, ultimately this election everywhere, not just in the state of illinois is a vote on the economy, is that a misstep in the message from the governor? >> i see. well -- >> what do you mean? >> i don't know, soledad. what's that? >> you said forgive me, what do you mean when you say "you see."

to me to say the economy is improving might be a bad strategy, right, because if everyone's going to vote on the economy, wouldn't that kind of give an advantage a little bit to the obama campaign? >> well, i don't want to put words in the governor's mouth. i'm not sure exactly what he was referring to but obviously according to the department of labor the employment number according to their numbers is going down. i dispute whether that's an accurate depiction of where americans are at today. i happen to think americans aren't better off today than they were three or four years ago, that's the issue whether or not barack obama fulfilled the p promises he made to the american people. not whether or not the employment number would be better in march or february than november and december. the unemployment number is lower than it was in january and december but doesn't take away from the fact we're nowhere near number one where we need to be

or number two where barack obama promised we will be. that's a very important distinction when it comes to making the case to the american people, and so that's kind of where i'm at, and putting that in context with what governor romney said i think it squares. i don't know where that's coming from or the context but i think that would be my best guess for where he's coming from. >> senator santorum had a gaffe on the campaign trail yesterday as well. he said this about the unemployment rate. >> i don't care what the unemployment rate's going to be. doesn't matter to me. my campaign doesn't hinge on unemployment rates and growth rates. there's something more foundational that's going on here. >> and then he clarified with this. >> of course i care about the unemployment rate. i want the unemployment rate to go down. i'm saying my candidacy doesn't hinge on whether it goes up and down. our candidacy is about freedom. it's not about governor romney's idea that he's going to fix the

economy. >> do you think that part of the stumbles that he's had of late and maybe not even just of late is that as the campaign trail is so long there's more time for people to not only get sort of tired but have to reframe and recontextualize their comments? >> you know, i don't think so, because if you're the nominee, obviously the intensity is only going to be a lot stronger and you're still going to have to campaign throughout the spring and the summer, and the fall, and so i think it's just more scrutiny, when you become the nominee, so if anything, i just think it gets even tougher, but i think that rick santorum's right. this election is about big things. it's about liberty and freedom and we've got the two-year anniversary of obama care, that's coming. this is another promise that barack obama made that prices would go down and access would go up, and reality we all know that actually prices are going up, companies are taking waivers that obama care isn't what

everyone thought it would be and in fact it's the opposite, and it isn't working and it isn't improving anything, and in fact, democrats like those democrats that went to vote in ohio rejected obama care 3:1 and i think the election is going to be more about not only what the department of labor says the unemployment rate is, but it's going to be about obama care, the debt, the deficit. we've got a republican budget coming out today that's going to be a very serious document on how to get our entitlement programs and our debt under control. these are the issues i think that americans are concerned with, and i don't think our future or our present condition is better today after three years of barack obama and i think those are the big issues this campaign will be about and where we'll end up in the summer and the fall and obviously some of these things i think come and go but i think they can be

explained easy taken one at a time. >> we'll be discussing that republican budget straight ahead. reice prie bus, thank you, and my apologize for the audio glitches. we'll fix that for the next time we talk which will be in a couple of days. >> youevery know. thank you, soledad. >> you never know. we get to christine romans with the headlines for us. good morning. >> good morning, thanks, sole d soledad. the fbi and the justice department launching their own investigation into the death of an unarmed 17-year-old florida high school student who was shot by a neighborhood watchman. george zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense when he shot trayvon martin. martin's family and protesters have been pressuring sanford police saying race was a factor in martin's death. newly released 911 tapes show zimmerman, a white hispanic, followed martin, who was black saying he looked "suspicious." florida's stand your ground law might prevent prosecution.

we'll talk about this case with midwin charles. toulouse, france, on high alert after a shooting rampage killed four people, including three kids at a jewish school. french president on hand with a minute of silence this morning. a french government official says surveillance video shows he had a camera strapped to his chest. authorities believe the shoot something linked to two other recent ethnic attacks. police in the u.s. are stepping up their patrols around synagogues and other jewish institutions. new york police commissioner ray kelly says they're concerned about copycat attacks. >> we have a significant jewish population in this city and we have to take that into account. we know that we're at the top of the terrorist target list, so we are concerned about the so-called copycat syndrome. >> kelly says there is no specific intelligence about any active threat. house republicans will release their 2013 budget today.

it cuts taxes and calls for just two individual tax brackets, 10% and 25%. it would also end the alternative minimum tax a measure initially aimed at the wealthy and now squeezes millions of middle class americans. at 7:30, soledad talks with representative jason chaffetz and democrat chris van holen for t the response. dow futures are down 60 points. european and asian markets down overnight after disappointing auto sales in china. big thing in the u.s. is the report on housing starts due later. economists hope it shows housing activity at a three-month high. live in london, queen elizabeth ii is marking her diamond jubilee, celebrating 60 years on the throne. she'll give a speech to both houses of parliament. the tradition dates back to the 16th century. the jubilee celebrations will

last through june. peyton manning taking his talents to the mile-high city. he told his agent to finalize contract negotiations with the denver broncos. once manning signs it's expected the bronco also try to trade current starting q.b. tim tebow. >> big deal there. big deal there. my parents went to see the queen's silver jubilee. >> really? >> yes and brought us back silver pendants to mark the day. >> since the 16th century, quite a tradition. still ahead on "starting point" we told you that the fbi is now investigating that racially charged shooting death of trayvon martin. going to break down the case and tell you where it goes from here. also our get real. the tsa pats down a toddler in a wheelchair. did they cross the line? 3 million new ipads sold in just four days, 3 million in four days. but the new gadget might be too hot to handle. rumor is the ipad is

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♪ ♪ beautiful night there, either way i don't want to wait ♪ it's going to be an all me play list, beyonce, good to run to in the morning. get real, you see this 3-year-old in a wheelchair, he's patted down by the tsa, been viewed more than 200,000 times since it was posted to youtube sunday. >> weird, huh? that's a little weird. >> yeah. >> so as you can see here, this is the video clip lasts about 3:14, and apparently the dad who shot this is talking to his 3-year-old son, it's described you know as the clip is

described as the child is visibly confused and nervous and squirming but we could keep rolling the tape so people can see it. he looks like your typical 3-year-old trying to go through. it's unclear because the incident took place back in 2010 and of course the tsa has changed its guidelines, they changed it in 2011 so like my kids who are 11 and under now no longer have to take their shoes off. they've relaxed some of the gid lines. of course he's in a wheelchair. he broke his leg so he probably would have had to go through some of the screening anyway. >> as a 3-year-old. >> yeah, you know, because i think it's less about the kid and more about the wheelchair. they got to swab -- who knows, i don't know. what i find interesting, why post it now, when it was taken back in 2010, and then of course the name of apparently the guy who shot it, the father in this case is a radio host in chicago, his name is matt debeale so it's unclear why he's posting it now. >> was he trying to generate

interest in his radio show by doing this? >> i don't know or maybe something happened with the tsa enhe's outraged and has it on tape. >> there's a lot of people outraged with the tsa. >> i am. i think most people are. more and more americans think tsa stands for trying to scare america and this is exactly the thing that gives ron paul so much credibility when we see this sort of thing. might it be a 12-year-old held back trying to bring lip gloss on a plane. >> a 3-year-old with a broken leg trembling in front of the tsa. >> he doesn't look like he's freaking out. you know well about 3-year-olds freaking out. he's not freaking out. >> he seemed to be understanding and you have to wonder does the tsa have a warning that al qaeda or terrorists are using children? do they have some information we don't have? >> because he's in a wheelchair. that was the problem before they could walk, a bigger kid they

have to walk through. i had the issue when i was on crutches. he is being patted down as well, this is before the guidelines where children are less screened. if my information does not exist the tsa is guilty of a lack of common sense which no one is surprised with. >> i travel last couple years on, shooting documentaries i travel all the time and for the most part 92% are really nice. 8% are complete jerks and put your handbag through -- >> i've been on twice and i know why she's saying this, the tsa will walk through going, soledad! this is her audience, the tsa. >> it's not my audience although we appreciate them as viewers, they're doing their jobs and there are guidelines. if you don't stick to your guidelines and someone brings a lip gloss through that ends up being dangerous until the guidelines are changed -- >> it's the guidelines, not the man in the blue shirt.

>> i travel all the time. they think i'm k.d. lang. it's the debate between big government and good government. a lot of people are tired of this and the whole thing was a plot to buy dasani water in the airport. >> could be. we have to take a short break. ahead on "starting point" new developments in the case of the racially charged shooting death in florida. the fbi is now getting involved to figure out what happened when trayvon martin was shot to death. we'll break that case down next. plus rethinking medicare, drastically changing the tax code. republicans are sending election year message with their new budget. we'll talk to rpt jepresentativ jason chaffetz. we leave you with will cain's teenagers. uncover stronger, younger looking skin.

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new this morning the justice department and the fbi are now opening an investigation into the killing of 17-year-old trayvon martin. of course you remember his story, it all started with a shot. listen. [ yelling ] >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> all right, what is your -- >> there's gon shots. >> you just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> how many? >> just one. >> gosh, every time i hear that gunshot it is shocking. neighborhood watch volunteer george zimmerman claimed he acted in self-defense when he shot trayvon martin. the family believes race was a factor. he is a 17-year-old african-american boy. the justice department will look into that, the civil rights

division is picking up the investigation and that could mean that zimmerman could face hate crime charges. joining us this morning, joining the panel is criminal defense attorney midwin charles. nice to have you with us. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the department of justice stepping in r in, the civil rights bureau. >> they're going to be looking at whether or not this was a hate crime so they will be look at the actions and activities of george zimmerman. a hate crime is a traditional crime but with bias, murder, arson or traditional crimes but a hate crime has an additional element which is bias and the federal government has an interest in protecting americans from hate crimes because they believe that it's something that lends itself towards terrorism because most people say why would the federal government want to step in. one is a hate crime and two is color of law abuses. law enforcement has wide latitude to arrest and to detain people, and so what the fbi does is they step in and find out whether or not law enforcement has abused that wide latitude,

and in this case it would be a non-action and not doing. >> in not arresting jornl zimmerman. we looked at the 911 call let's play george zimmerman's call to the dispatch at the beginning before all of this happened where he said he believed there was someone who looked suspicious. >> something's wrong with him. yep. he's coming to check me out. he's got something in his hands. i don't know what his deal is. these [ muted ] they always get away. >> are you following him? >> yeah. >> okay we don't need to you do that. >> okay. >> there are parts of this i have to imagine that authorities especially in the department of justice will be looking at to see is in fact this the part that would show bias and hate crime, what he says before he shoots trayvon martin. >> that's right, they always get away. who is "they." one key fact is the fact that the 911 operator at some point

said do not follow him and yet he still went ahead and did that. >> you know what i thought was interesting? they had rules for neighborhood watch, and the rules, we should throw them up on the screen, the neighborhood watch manual it should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers. they shall not possess weapons or pursue vehicles. they should be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity. members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous. apparently george zimmerman never registered his neighborhood watch group was not an official neighborhood watch group. >> shocking. >> i think it's an interesting development. >> he violated all of those rules, every single one of them. >> but also, if you don't get out of the vehicle, there's no altercation. no one gets shot. if you listened to 911, if you listened to what you're told to do, you don't, you simply follow them, you can see what's going on but also, you made a judgment that he looks suspicious based

on what? a pair of tennis shoes and a hoodie? is that really what it's all based upon? so i have people trying to say zimmerman, he's trying to keep folks safe. yeah, but he shot and killed somebody based on just looking at them and saying i think he's going to do something bad. that's crazy. >> here's what george zimmerman's father said about his son, a statement. "george is a spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. he would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever." his name is robert zimmerman and said this in "the orlando sentinel." >> george zimmerman's race plays nothing as to whether or not he's capable of a hate crime. could you theoretically have a hate crime where it's black on black, hispanic on black, white on black. i'm curious, is it the sanford police department still investigating this case, right? >> yes. >> the suggestion that the department of justice will step in is that sanford's investigation is lacking.

>> the sanford police turned it over to the state attorney's office and you also now have florida governor rick scott after the doj made their announcement he wants their officials to step in as well. sanford police have given it over to the state's attorney. >> lack of action in the fact george zimmerman they never did a drug test, never did an alcohol test, haven't arrested him. there's no dispute whether he shot trayvon martin. >> he admitted it. >> that lack of action is a color of law abuse. this is reminiscent to the emmitt till case and say this is tim lsimilar, and local law enforcement does nothing. >> it will be interesting to continue to follow this case. you broke the information about the doj stepping in. >> yeah. >> i was still awake. >> nice to have you, midwin. we appreciate it. still ahead on "starting point" new details about the

army sergeant accused of going on the deadly shooting rampage in afghanistan. he's saying now he cannot remember details about the shooting. we're going to hear from his attorney, up next. plus the gop's releasing its budget today. we'll have a preview of how it's going to affect you and the democrats' response, all coming up live with congressman jason chaffetz and also congressman chris van hollen. you're watching "starting point." [ male announcer ] this is lawn ranger -- eden prairie, minnesota. in here, the landscaping business grows with snow. to keep big winter jobs on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone from field workers to accounting, initiate, bill, and track work in real time. you can't live under a dome in minnesota, that's why there's guys like me. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better.

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♪ turn me loose, turn me loose, turn me loose ♪ ♪ i gotta to do it my way i just to show you all -- >> no, no, no. we're listening to representative jason -- shhh, i'm trying to read. jason chaffetz' playlist, loverboy "turn me loose." he's going to give us his thoughts on fiscal year 2013. christine romans has a look at the headlines. >> robert bales the u.s. army sergeant accused of killing 16

afghan civilians can't remember any details of the shooting. that's according to his attorney john henry brown. after meeting with sergeant bales yesterday in kansas brown told cbs news his client was sober that morning but has no recollection of the massacre. >> he has an early memory of that evening and he has a later memory of that evening, but he doesn't have memory of in between. >> bales told you he was not drinking that night. >> he said he had a couple sips of something, but he didn't even have a full drink. >> but he was not drunk? >> no. >> sergeant bales' wife, carolyn, also released this statement, "what has been reported is completely out of character of the man i know and admire. please respect me when i say i cannot shed any light on what happened that night, so please do not ask. i, too, want to know what happened. i want to know how this could be." an ohio judge rules he will

not release prior court records on alleged school shooting suspect t.j. lane, accused of going on a deadly shooting rampage at sharden high school. releasing juvenile records could make it impartial to seat a jury in a trial. a new study says ibuprofen may fight off altitude sickness. researchers sent 86 hikers up, those who took ibuprofen before suffered few symptoms of altitude sickness. and apple selling a whopping 3 million new ipads in just about four days. the hot new gadget may be too hot literally. there are reports of the tablet overheating. apple halple has not responded s calls over that. >> i'm sure that will be fixed in ipad 4 coming up in six months. christine, thank you. rethinking meld i care,

simplifying the tax code and cuts in government spending might sound like familiar ideas from republican congressman paul ryan's contentious budget for april, but they're in 2013 as well. spending set at $1.028 trillion, less than what congress agreed to last year in the budget control act. simplifies the tax code as well, taking us to just two tax brackets, 10% and 25%, reduces the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25% and also expected to modify ryan's medicare program from last year, expanding the private option. paul ryan in "wall street journal" op. ed watches this, our budget returns power to individuals, families and communities. it draws inspiration from the founders' belief that all people are born with an unalienable right to the pursuit of happiness" all of this to be paid for with to be announced cuts and closing tax loopholes.

so far congressional democrats have been no more receptive than they were the first time around. jason chaffetz is a republican congressman from the state of utah and also a member of the house budget committee. nice to see you. >> good morning. >> across the board are you supportive of the budget? >> yes, it's bold and realistic. we got to recognize we have a massive debt issue and problem in the united states of america. we can see this train coming and we've got to do some things to fix it. i think there's common ground and the idea that we need to broaden the base and lower the rates, i hope that democrats will join and unite us on that. we also do something that is needed in this country, and that is entitlement reform. if you don't do that, you can never solve this problem. we do cut discretion area spending and we think it's the right pathway to prosperity and the right thing for the united states and look forward to the debate. >> you cut spending and entitlements which other people frame as dismantling medicare as we know it. are the critics wrong when they say that this could be definite

stating? certainly if you look at the polling there's not necessarily a lot of support for that. >> well, we offer reform. remember, it was president obama who pulled $500 billion out of medicare, so we're trying to reform it in order to save it, give some people some options and choices, but again, for younger generations, we need to change the trajectory, but for those seniors that are older, that have been playing under these rules, we allow them to continue forward on this. hopefully we don't get into the bumper sticker politics and get into true reform and the idea that paul ryan introduced this with senator wyden, a democrat will hold water for a lot of people. >> when you look at the polls and we just had the poll up when you were talking, they polled americans across the board, 70% said keep medicare where it is when they look at republicans, the numbers, 53% said keep medicare exactly as it is. do you run the risk of going against what the american people

want and ergo that translates into losing elections down the road? >> well, i think what they're saying is we actually like the program, we want the program, and in order to save the program we got to reform the program. that's what we're trying to say, not just on medicare but doing things with block granting to medicaid to give states flexibili flexibility. we have to address social security. i've introduced my own individual plans, not part of this budget, in order to save the plan. i think that's ultimately when people digest that, they'll understand we're trying to be the adults in the room and trying to do the responsible thing in order to save these programs. >> you're saying in order to save the program you have to reform the program. you look back at that poll, when asked do you like it the way it is or do you want change? they were given the you could change it and they did not go for the change option. i want to ask you about what the impact could be. politico has an article out says for democrats this is christmas in march because it will go the way it went last spring and just going to come at a huge cost to

republicans. do you think that's true, the political cost of this? >> well, if we did what the senate democrats and harry reid did, they've done nothing. we're trying to be the adults in the room and produce something that is going to change the trajectory in which we're going. you cannot have $4 trillion deficits year after year after year as the president has done and the democrats did when they were in charge. you can't keep doing that year after year. you have to curb the spending. you've got to do some tax reform. there are lots of things we need to do but ultimately we need to get to the point where our budget actually balances. you're not going to do that overnight. you do that over the course of the years. >> congressman ryan has a new trailer he's walking throughout halls of congress, ominous music playing underneath and and he delivers a short speech. i want to play a little bit of it for but >> let me ask you a question. what if your president, your senator, your congressman knew it was coming? what if you knew when it was

going to happen, why it was going to happen and more importantly what if they knew what they needed to do to stop it from happening, and they had the time to stop it? but they chose to do nothing about it, because it wasn't good politics. what would you think of that person? it would be immoral. this coming debt crisis is the most predictable crisis -- dpsh. >> outside of the ominous music i think it's a pretty effective trailer. what do you think of it? >> well, look, if you spend $1 million a day every day, it would take you almost 3,000 years to get to $1 trillion. our nation is approaching $16 trillion in debt, we're paying more than $600 million a day in interest on that debt. we deficit spend roughly $4 billion a day. we can't keep doing that. that's what we recognize and realize. we can see this coming. you can't keep accumulating all this debt without some changes out there so we offer a pathway that's different than the president's pathway. there is a clear choice between the two and we ought to have

that debate and the senate ought to have that debate on the floor as well, and thus far they've not agreed to do that. >> congressman jason chaffetz, nice to see you. >> thanks, good morning. >> you bet. >> or we could have a sane and moral tax code. i'd like to shift the debate stop calling medicare an entitlement and start calling it an earned benefit. the ryan plan may have had revisions and it is an effective trailer but at the end of the day it is going to lead to health care vouch he hers, peop are not able to cover their surgeries if they're over $16,000. >> we'll cover this. hold it, hold it. we have chris van hollen and i don't want to chip away from him from him. up next the democrats respond to the plan. and then we'll discuss the whole thing. also did you hear the story of blocking food donations to the homeless folks in shelter

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jason chaffetz about the republican 2013 budget plan released today. joining us is chris van hollen, ranking democrat on the committee. >> good morning. >> we heard from congressman chaffetz he welcomes he says debate over ryan's budget plan version 2.0. do you? what do you hate about it and like about it. >> i welcome the debate. we haven't seen every detail. from what we know so far this is not good for the country. if you're mitt romney, you're going to love this budget, because what it does is provide another round of tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and does it at the expense of middle lass taxpayers and seniors. the reality is that seniors are going to face the increase in health care costs. they're going to go up and also going to see their taxes go up, because what this budget is proposing is to give over $100,000 in tax cuts, if you're a millionaire, and squeeze more on middle income taxpayers.

so the argument here is not whether or not we should reduce the deficit. we have to do that. the question is whether you do it in a lop-sided way that puts all the burden on middle income taxpayers and seniors, or whether you take a balanced approach, where you have accommodation of cuts but you also ask folks at the top to share more responsibility and that's the heart of the issue here. >> there are folks who would say listen, the tax code is already complicated instead of six categories from 10% to 35% they would drop it to two categories, 10% and 25%. why is that bad? >> it's not bad to simplify the tax code. the question is whether simplifying the tax code is code word for another round of tax breaks for folks at the top. could you have fewer tax rates without reducing dramatically the rate for millionaires and unfortunately, that's exactly what they do, and the result's going to be squeezing middle

class taxpayers. when we get to the budget committee, democrats are going to try and fix these things. we'll offer an amendment that says you don't raise the tax burden on middle income taxpayers in order to give tax breaks to folks at the top. i hope our republican colleagues will support us in that. so far the evidence suggests they won't. >> forgive me for interrupting but i want to talk about medicare, there's a proposal that congressman ryan is doing with senator wyden, a progressive democrat and he says this. wyden/ryan does not eliminate the medicare plan. it protects the purchasing power of traditional medicare and private sector innovation to make both stronger and more senior friendly, that's a progressive democratic senator who is supporting the medicare section of this. >> first, soledad it would be nice to see the details of their plan. they haven't introduced a piece of legislation so people can see

what it does. is at the end of the day it saves the medicare program money by transferring the risks and the costs onto seniors. the best way to deal with health care is to bring down health care costs throughout the health care system, not simply transfer rising health care costs onto seniors. this is just another version of what the republicans introduced last year. it's another version of a voucher plan. they've dressed it up to make it sound different. at the end of the day what this means is seniors are left holding the bag for increased costs. we'll try to change incentives in the medicare system to put less focus on the volume of care and more on the quality of care. we took some of those steps in the affordable care act. we can accelerate some of those efforts. we don't think that we should deal with budget by transferring

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this morning for us. how did it go? >> reporter: one of those big state occasions that we enjoy in london. two houses of parliament, lower house and upper house will come together in one room to hear an address. the last time in recent memory it really happened was for pope and for president obama. but this as you say is the year in which the queen celebrates her diamond jubilee. six years on the throne. they decided to pay tribute to her. they got the window organize. paid for it themselves. they made glowing tributes on behalf of the speaker of the commons and the lords to the queen. th then she returned with an address talking about how she's the only monarch in british history, only the second monarch in british history to pass the 60-year mark. queen victoria being the other one. she's had unique insight into modern history. some people would argue a period of history that's seen the most change in all history.

there's been so much that's changed over the last six years. she's had a unique insight. >> i think that's absolutely true. all of the things that have happened on her watch sitting in the monarch's chair if you think about how much the world has changed over 60 years as we hear. it's quite remarkable. we thank you for that update and the report. still ahead this morning on "starting point," primary day in illinois. polls are open right now. can mitt romney seal the deal? i'm going say that for the ten millionth time. can he seal the deal once and for all. >> he already has. interesting debate there. >> we're going to chat with the illinois congressman at the top of the hour. plus, a cute video, never a fan of cute video on tv. this one is worth seeing. she's singing adele. it's so cute. we're going to show you a bit of that straight ahead. back in a moment. [ female announcer ] lactaid milk is easy to digest.

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welcome everybody. a gop showdown on the president's home turf. voting is under way in illinois right now and it's been a little bit of a chicago style fight to the finish. >> we're not going to be successful in replacing an economic light weight with another economic light weight. >> you believe this country wants to elect a wall street financeer as president of the united states? is the food police striking again? we'll talk about that. actress eva longoria will join us this morning to tell us why she's stumping for president obama. it's tuesday, march 20th. "starting point" begins right now.

♪ >> okay. this is my son. my kids are in today because it's spring break. this is my son jackson's pick "thriller." old is new. he's 7. >> all good. i like that. >> he dug into the vault to get that. >> we have a political comedian and radio personality, will is with us and rowland martin, cnn political analyst. >> what up? >> it's a peace sign. >> it's more like -- this is "nightline." you're supposed to go like this. not peace signs to the camera. >> what show is this? >> i'm channeling down cornel s cornelius. >> i buy it.

>> i won't even bother now. i do parking. i'm from the streets. >> you're not from the streets. >> what streets are you from? >> the streets of long island. >> i'm from long island. okay. we got to get to the polling in illinois. the polls are now open on this first day of spring. there are 69 total delegates up for grabs. 54 at stake in the primary. winner is expected to capture the bulk of the delegates. mitt romney is looking to pad his commanding lead in the delegate chase. rick santorum is hoping to burst governor romney's bubble of inevitability. going at each other in their own form of chicago politics that's getting ugly. >> this isn't chicago style politics. >> we're not successful in replacing an economic lightweight with another economic lightweight. >> do you think that's the kind

of experience we need? >> santorum has been making the case that a win today could be the beginning of the end for mitt romney. >> i predict if we're able to do what i know most people think is impossible which is to carry the state of illinois, that will fundamentally change this election like no or contest to date. it will put us in a position where they'll stop talking about delegates and start talking about how are we going to stop rick santorum from being the nominee. >> how likely is that? >> very, very unlikely. very unlikely. we're trying to look for the appropriate sports metaphor during the break. mitt romney has it locked up. governor edwards of louisiana one time said i got this thing locked up. if i'm found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl. >> you don't lock it up until

you get the required number of delegates. if you're santorum, you keep plugging away because romney can screw up. it can be a hard race. the jockey could fall off. the bottom line though is until somebody wins it, you stay in the race. you don't just hand it to someone because folks say you didn't go ahead and step out. i say you keep moving. >> let's bring in republican congressman aaron shock from illinois. he's lived in peoria, illinois, since fourth grade. nice to see you. how do you think it's going to go today. that's true, right? since you were nine years old? >> that's correct. you got good research there. >> i think we asked your staff actually. >> well, so listen, i think mitt romney is going to do extraordinarily well in illinois. they were both in peoria last night and the news coverage here has been phenomenal. rick santorum just so you know for viewers, peoria is in the heart of illinois.

more conservative part of the state. rick santorum had a couple hundred people show up for his rally. mitt romney had several thousand people show up on bradley university's campus to hear him speak. i see that momentum going into today. i predict a double digit win for mitt romney in this state. >> how much impact do you think some of these gaffes have had along the way. the latest one is rick santorum talking about unemployment. i'll play a little bit of that for you. >> you need a candidate who will be a fighter for freedom. who is going to get up and make that the central theme in this race because it is the central theme this this race. i don't acare what the unemployment rate is going to be. there's something more foundational going on here. >> he says it's about freedom. it's not about unemployment. how is something like that resonating or will it resonate? >> well, a couple things. first of all, i think it would be remiss if we didn't

acknowledge that every candidate who has run for office especially for president makes a number of gaffes. hillary clinton and barack obama did. president will continue to once in a while. mitt romney and other candidates in this race has. >> anyone that runs for office period has to some degree. >> that's right. having said that, clearly i think mitt's focus in the primary, governor romney's focus in the primary is solely on economic issues. it's been the foundation of how he's basically made the case for why he's the most qualified among the republican contenders. mr. santorum has taken a different approach. he's gotten more into social issues. things other than economic issues, which is fine. i understand where he's going with the more conservative base of the party. at the end of the day the economy will continue to be job number one. americans all across the country are looking for someone who can help get us a quicker recovery, help us bring down that unemployment rate.

and so i think that the american people, regardless of what candidates think, do care about the unemployment rate. they are worried about the 20 some million people that don't have jobs and continue to look for jobs. and so i think it was a gaffe on the part of rick santorum. look, he's going to move on. he'll probably continue to run despite losing illinois today. it's his right to do so. i think it's becoming very, very clear that mitt romney is the eventual nominee and will become the nominee of the republican party and go toe to toe with president obama in the fall. >> he later said he cares about the unemployment rate. he was pointing out there were other things he had an interest in and wanted to focus on. earlier i was talking to ryan priebus. let me play a clip of what governor romney said. >> i believe the economy is coming back. we'll see what happens. it's had ups and downs. i think it's finally coming back. the economy always comes back after a recession of course.

there's never been one that we didn't recover from. the problem is this one has been deeper than it needed to be and a slower recovery than it should have been by virtue of the policies of this president. >> earlier this morning i was talking to rnc chair and he said i wouldn't frame it that way. i'm not going to contradict the governor. some people are still hurting do you think that's a mistake for the governor to say the economy is coming back. doesn't that hand a great sound bite into people watching the governor saying let's turn this into an obama campaign ad? >> i think the fact is that this has been the longest streak of unemployment since the great depression. governor romney, i heard him make this point and was with him yesterday when he made the point. if you play the clip longer, he makes the point that america has always rebounded eventually. the question is how long does it take for us to rebound. the point he's making simply is that president obama's policies

have made it take longer to rebound here economically. it's why you see these slow ups and downs within the unemployment figures but no clear trend at least at this point. i think governor romney is laying out the case regardless of whether or not there's an uptick or downtick some september and october this fall, the fact is the same. we've been in a downward trend. we've been in a slump economically since president obama took office and his policies have not made things better. >> congressman aaron schock, thank you for being with us. >> we'll get to other headlines before we get to the panel to talk about that. >> fbi and justice department launching their own investigation into the death of an unarmed 17-year-old florida high school student. that student was shot by a neighborhood watchman. george zimmerman police said he was acting in self-defense when he shot trayvon martin.

sanford police have been pressured that it was race related. a florida stand your ground law may prevent prosecution. we'll talk more about this case coming up in a few minutes with criminal defense attorney midwin charles. new details on the deadly school shooting yesterday. three students and a teacher was killed. a government official says the gunman may have filmed this rampage. security footage shows there was a video camera strapped to his chest. here in the u.s., police are on alert for possible strikes against jewish targets. new york city police commissioner ray kelly says they're concerned about copycat attacks. >> we have a significant jewish population in this city. we have to take that into account. we know that we're at the top of

the terrorist target list. we're concerned about the so-called copycat syndrome. >> french police believe the jewish school shooting is linked to two other recent ethnic attacks. gas prices still rising. up again. average price of unleaded now $3.85 per gallon. that's the national average. the price of gas is now up for 11 days in a row. 17% jump overall this year. president obama still isn't finished celebrating st. patrick's day. this morning he welcomes irish prime minister to the white house. later there's a st. paddy's day lunch at the capitol and the president and first lady will hold a st. patrick's day reception in the east room of the white house. it's not easy being green. cutest video you'll see all day. a charming 2-year-old with her take on adele's "someone like you." ♪

>> seriously. >> isn't she cute? >> she's adorable. she's so cute. all these guys on this set are groaning. she's cute. >> she's adorable. >> i know. it's like the skating swirl. all right. that's cute. other stuff to get to. >> adorable 2-year-old singing break up torch song does it to me every time. >> that's a little weird. >> just saying. now billie holiday. >> we tried to be courteous. >> i think you guys are mean. >> they're not being mean. >> she's a great singer. nothing against her performance. >> she's 2. she's doing a torch song. i thought it was cute. okay. moving on. >> she got dumped by spongebob. i don't know. >> still ahead on "starting point," this is the story of the sergeant bales accused of going

door to door killing 16 people including nine children in afghanistan. the suspect in that afghanistan massacre says he cannot remember the attack. are you better off having unhealthy food or no food at all? new york city banning donations to its homeless shelters. critics say the food police have gone too far. here's roland part's play list.

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town." >> our playlist can be found at cnn.com. you're here to talk about a story causing uproar in new york city. donations to homeless shelters, city shelters, being turned away because they're not healthy enough. give us an explanation about this rule. >> turns out new york city is turning away all food donations. if you had a broccoli salad and you want to donate it or institution wanted to donate a blo broccoli salad, the city's homeless shelters said we want to control. we're the government. we're controlling what these people eat. they can't have any of it. they turn it away. >> this is only for city shelters. you could take your salad to another shelter not run by the city. >> it's troubling when the government controls what people are eating. the people aren't starving at

the homeless shelters. they enjoy these different types of foods rather than institutional foods that they get served. and these are senior citizens who are recovering from drug and alcohol abuse and people from the community are coming in and donating foods that their own synagogue serves and city says we don't want it. >> mayor bloomberg says this is a safety issue. he says because of all sorts of safety reasons, we just have a policy of not taking donations. >> the city's homeless shelters have accepted these donations for years. i know people who have delivered them. only after the city came up with new nutritional guidelines which dictate every calorie, every carb, every piece of sugar and salt, trans fat, they even have preferred condiments on which ketchup to use. >> is that a bad thing at a place where there's enough food. no one is arguing that in new york city shelters that people are starving and desperately need the food. is there some upside to saying

that what we give is leftover birthday cake and potato chips and after a big school event you deliver that stuff which is not healthy. when you look at the populations of these shelters, highly minority, latino and black, who have big issues with obesity, big issues with diabetes, all correlated to your diet. >> there's no question we want people to eat healthful diets. we want people to have a healthy diet but enjoy an occasional healthy treat as is being donated. these people's hearts and stomachs are warmed by great food that houses of worship serve to their own members. >> if these are city run shelters, there are other shelters that provide food for folks so there are options to give food somewhere else. >> that's absolutely true but it sends a message that city shelters don't want people being involved in serving people and

you can donate it somewhere else. people aren't going hungry. what message does it send when the government uses power to dictate how people eat. >> this city is controlling not just city homeless shelters but what people eat as far as salt content. laws that affect every single one of us. the government can control what it gives away for free. it's an extension of a larger habit this city has made. >> you have a choice. you can choose not to be in a city shelter or choose to drop it off -- you can choose it drop it off at a different shelter. i don't think anybody is going to choose i want broccoli salad so i'm going to move out. that's complete insanity. there are other places where you would deliver the food. the concern is wasted food. someone has food and you're wasting it. >> that's part of it. food can be donated to other places sometimes. i know lots of people donating food to city shelters and being turned away. it sends a message the

government is in control of how people live, how people donate and expand government control rather than encourage more private charity. >> we'll take the broccoli salad by the way. i'll take that. it's nice to have you. coming up next, we'll talk to eva longoria who is stumping for president obama hitting the campaign trail. we asked her why she thinks the message is important for latinos and for women. tim tebow, is time over in denver? peyton manning is on his way in. going to talk about where he could end up. you're watching "starting point." back after the commercial break if we choose to bring everyone back.

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♪ >> i made a promise to myself never to sing or dance on this program again. >> we appreciate that. >> i appreciate that you appreciate that. >> let's just leave it at that, roland. let's just leave it there. i support that fully. "let me blow your mind." >> more star power for president obama's re-election bid. lining up a roster of national co-chairs, politicians like los angeles mayor and actors and also actress eva longoria. so far she alone has been able to raise between $200,000 and $500,000 to help the president. she says she wants to focus specifically on women and latinos. we had chance to sit down and

talk about it. >> i know that you have been hitting the campaign trail for president obama especially focusing on swing states. what message are you trying to bring and to whom? >> well, i was just named one of the national co-chairs of the re-election campaign so i was very excited. my job is going to be to mobilize and engage voters specifically with the latino community and women. those are two areas that are very near and dear to me. i want to make sure that the president's record is voiced and messaged to the right people. >> what do you think is his biggest challenge? it was written in "time" magazine recently that he didn't keep his word. besides that, the obama administration is responsible for the separation of thousands of families with children who are u.s. citizens. obama deported more immigrants over 1.2 million, than any other president in history. is immigration going to be a problem for president obama as

we head into november? >> it's interesting that you mention that. actually the economy is the number one issue that latinos are concerned about. immigration will come into play. i think because of the gop primary has been so long we've only heard the attacks on president obama's record and a lot of misinformation. there's been a lot of deportations but the president has refocused the resources of homeland security to prioritize criminal deportations over dreamers or families that need to stay united. he's proposed a lot of changes to keep families together. >> is your concern that there just will not be a big turnout? people are not as engaged as they were in 2008. we can see it on the republican side and one is going to guess the same thing just by taking sort of the temperature of the water in 2012. also, when you look at what mitt romney has been saying about latinos since he won in puerto rico, he says latinos are republicans. listen to this.

>> those people who don't think that latinos will vote for republican need to take a look in puerto rico and see there the conservative principles and latino voters go together and that hispanic voters will vote for republicans if we stand for something conservative principles that bring growth and good jobs and rising home values. that's how we win. we'll get latino voters to help us out. >> that sounds like a message that could win. why do you think it's not going to work? >> specifically with mitt romney i think he's probably on the wrong side of every issue that is important to latinos. to say some dangerous rhetoric of i would veto the dream act the minute i was in office, he's calling arizona's anti-immigration laws a model for the country and campaigning with the author of that bill. these are polarizing viewpoints from what hispanic find important. every hispanic family is pro god, is small business, is pro-family, is pro-child going

to college. the policies that mitt romney or any other gop republican for that matter are proposing goes against that. and if the republicans are smart, they would capitalize on this audience but they have done so well at polarizing themselves from what is important to the latino community whether it is health care or job growth, education, that obama has done. obama has provided 150,000 pell grants for hispanic students to be able to go to college and have access to higher education. those are true numbers and true facts over 9 million hispanic who previously were uninsured will be able to have access to quality health care. those are real statistics. >> a couple quick questions before i let you go. 17-minute film now. i wonder if it hurts the president or helps the president to have high powered folks in hollywood backing him. sometimes he gets picked on and this new film that's come out that cost just under $400,000 is

getting some criticism. on the other hand, one has to imagine it could help him as well. where do you fall in that? >> are you talking about "the road we traveled?" it's a fantastic film. it can only help him. i think us celebrities in hollywood get a bad rap for wanting to get politically involved. i'm an american citizen before i'm anything else. i have a voice. i have a platform. i want to use it. i've always been involved politically. i find that a lot of celebrities and actors and entertainers who want to get behind a certain candidate can do so because that's their right as an american citizen. >> i asked her a second question. i started that with two questions. only got to one. the other one is online. we talk about the final episodes of "desperate housewives." she's not sure what's happening. she's still alive. they killed off 50 people on that show. 50 people. >> you better save your money if you go on that show. no job security. >> you can see that on our

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and train is going to tour with maroon 5. so sad. >> it's been a rough year. >> back street boys open for new kids. it's a horrible time. >> moving to headlines. >> you guys are all dressed alike today. >> dressed alake? >> now we're in -- >> seriously? >> kind of. >> come on. looks like a chocolate sandwich with two pieces of white bread. >> good morning. accused army staff sergeant robert bales has no memory of murdering 16 afghan civilians according to his attorney. after meeting with sergeant bales for the first time yesterday, lawyer john henry browne said his client was not drinking that day. >> he has an early memory of that evening. he has a later memory of that evening. but he doesn't have memory of in between. >> bales told you he was not drinking that night. >> he said he had a couple sips of something but he didn't even

have a full drink. >> he was not drunk? >> no. >> sergeant bales worked as a financial adviser before he enlisted in the army and was accused of stealing money from clients. arbitrators ordered him to repay more than $600,000 but he never did. house republicans set to release their 2013 budget plan today cutting taxes, creates only two individual tax brackets of 10% and 25%. it would also end the alternative minimum tax, a measure designed to target the wealthy but squeezes millions of middle class american families. earlier on "starting point," two members of the budget committee weighed in. >> our nation is approaching $16 trillion in debt. we're paying more than 600 million a day in interest on that debt. we deficit spend roughly $4 billion a day. with he can't keep doing that. >> this is not good for the country. if you're mitt romney you'll love this budget.

it provides another round of tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and does it at the expense of middle class taxpayers and seniors. >> the republican budget plan is considered by many observers to be dead in the water. karen santorum going to bat for her husband, rick santorum. she says critics who call her husband anti-woman for his stance on contraception are just wrong. here she is on cnn's piers morgan last night. >> women have nothing to fear. when it comes to contraceptive he'll do nothing on that issue. >> her husband would "not interfere with women's access to birth control should he become president." michelle obama sitting down with david letterman last night talking about her undercover shopping trip to target last year. >> that's my target run. i went to target. i thought i was undercover.

i have to tell you something about this trip though. no one knew that was me because a woman actually walked up to me, right, i was in the detergent aisle. she said. i kid you not. she said, excuse me, i just have to ask you something. i thought cover is blown. she said, can you reach on that shelf and hand me the detergent. i kid you not. >> michelle obama says she's also gone undercover to petco with the first dog alone. soled soledad? >> i like it. thank you. so let's talk about this video that's gone viral. i think there's something like 200,000 people that have taken a look at it. 3-year-old little boy in a wheelchair being patted down by the tsa on his way to disneyland. take a look. so you can hear in the background his father sort of voicing what's happening as you watch this tape.

it was taken apparently and just posted on sunday but it was shot back in 2010. his father is a chicago radio personality and he posted it over the weekend. he joins us by phone. thank you for talking to us. i know you're on your cell phone and we appreciate you chatting with us. give me background of what happened in this videotape that we're looking at. >> it was our vacation. we were on our way to disney. my son couldn't go through the metal detector, they had to do a special pat-down and i asked for a supervisor because i didn't want anything hanky going on. this was the process we had to go through to get him through with his body cast and with his wheelchair. i felt that it was a bit excessive. >> tell me why it took so long to post this? this was shot back in 2010, right, and now we're in 2012 obviously. >> so we got back from vacation and downloaded all the stuff off each of our phones and three cameras we brought and then it was kind of lost and forgotten

and i was looking at home movies with my oldest son saturday night because we have a new baby in the house and we were looking at how everyone looked when they were little and all that. my son and i watched it saturday night. i became incensed as though i was in the moment again. i shared other videos online with my family with me and my kids doing things. i thought, if i'm sharing those videos, some of them are silly, i need to share this and let people see what happened. >> are you surprised at how many people have downloaded this video. it looks like he's being treated nicely tough by the tsa. >> the individual that actually investigates and tests him, handles it very well for what he's doing. my problem is with the process in general. there's a 3-year-old that doesn't have dexterity to put a bomb together and deal with explosives and they were

swabbing him for explosives and things that physically and mentally he would never be in a position to accomplish. they should have been testing me perhaps and not him. it was that that really got me incensed. i would never let anyone do this to my kid but i have to accept it at the airport sadly. >> of course i think tsa changed rules in 2011 about kids. i wonder how much of this is tsa individuals which get a lot of blame or how much is just rules. the rules seem very specific about you have to swab. then you are there swabbing a 3-year-old who cleared i don't think anybody thinks a 3 year old is putting together an explosive device. >> it comes down to that i'm just doing my job mentality which i understand but if we keep having that mentality in this country, we're going to cease to be the great country that we are. you can't just do your job. you have to use your brain and think on your feet. anyone with brain can realize

that that little boy was scared and that situation wasn't necessary at all and it was completely uncalled for. >> thanks for joining us. we appreciate you giving us insight into this videotape. lots of questions after we had a chance to screen it earlier. i know you're busy. we appreciate it. >> thanks so much. >> still ahead on "starting point," melanie bloom, the wife of david bloom who died from a blood clot when reporting in iraq. she now is part of the team helping to try to detect and fight a silent killer. we'll talk to her about deep vain that rom broes is straight ahead. ncer:] conocophillips says, you're right. find out how natural gas answers both at powerincooperation.com.

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>> melanie bloom's playlist talking about deep vein thrombosis. her husband was killed in the iraq war in 2003. he died from a pulmonary

embolism. so great to see you after all these years. david and i anchored on the "today" show back in 2003. i remember getting that terrible call the night that he died. it was so stunning. you later found out that he had died of deep vein thrombosis. >> nobody wants to get that call. it made it startling that he died from something inside of his own body in the midst of a war. what i learned after he passed away is 2 million americans will develop a clot in their leg each year. out of that, 300,000 will die. i never heard of it. it can a blood clot that forms in the leg and break free and hit the lungs and be fatal. >> you joined the coalition to get people aware of deep vein

thrombosis. three little kids. we have a picture of you and your girls. i was stunned with the rest that you were dealing with and grief and managing a family that you decided to become a spokesperson. why did you want to do that? >> i feel so passionately about it. i don't want a family to learn about this the way we did. i felt like i was sitting on information that needed to get out there and helping others is the greatest healer of all. it was therapeutic to get out and champion a legacy for david. >> you saved the life of a cameraman at abc. two years after david died, one of the guys started complaining about cramping in his leg. he went to sort of the other guys on the crew said this sounds a lot like what david had and what melanie was talking about. sent him to the doctor. he was hospitalized immediately. one of the guys on the "today" show crew. i want to put up risk factors that people need to be aware of.

ov ov overweight, spoker, hospitalized or have cancer or heart disease. >> talk to your health care provider. there are ways to prevent. when you are seated for a long period of time, your blood can't flow. it's important to keep moving. pump your foot up and down. drink a lot of fluid. doctors can also prescribe compression stockings to keep the blood moving. >> they can be purchased over the counter. >> blood thinners for people who are at higher risk but also your doctor should be one who makes those decisions of prevention for you. >> being aware is the main thing. i want to remind everybody that march is deep vein thrombosis month. everyone can go to preventdvt.org for more information. you went from three kids to six kids. >> it's not quite the brady bunch.

we're missing one. >> great to see you. thank you for coming in and talking. a short break. we're back in just a moment. [ todd ] hello? hello todd. just calling to let you know i'm giving you the silent treatment. so you're calling to tell me you're giving me the silent treatment? ummm, yeah.

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one of the most coveted free agents in nfl history looks to be headed to the denver broncos. does it mean that tim tebow is going to get the boot? i'm right about that, right? tim tebow is gone? >> looks like that. all of the reports are saying since peyton manning is going to be finalizing his deal, we expect a press conference sometime today, that tim tebow may be on the trading blocks. there's also a theory out there, soledad, where tim tebow stays part of the team and learns from john elway and peyton manning. i don't know if that will happen with peyton being the guy in

denver. >> did he prove to other teams and will get another shot in the nfl to be a quarterback? >> tough thing was he won in such unconventional fashions. he had a fabulous games against pittsburgh steelers where he passed for 316 yards. you didn't see that in the passing game. when you talk about denver broncos run by john elway, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, you know that this to be unnerving. tim tebow was winning games. he was exciting in the way he pulled out victories but unconventional, it was an understatement the things that broncos were doing to change their system to make it work for him. it was very strange. i know people got behind him and it was exciting and he was a great story. you just don't anticipate that type of success happening again without him becoming a better passer. >> folks talk about this being the greatest free agent of all time it i'm sorry. reggie white was number one in terms of -- that was madness when he was a free agent. >> it was crazy. the thing about it, roland,

reggie white was one of the greatest players of all-time. unfortunately he's not with us anymore. peyton manning, the time of player he is, when you talk about one of the greatest quarterbacks, certainly one of the greatest quarterbacks of this era right now, and arguably one of the top five quarterbacks to play this game, when you get a guy like that who's is a free agent, you saw what happened with the san francisco 49ers, the miami dolphins, every organization, tennessee titans, everywhere where he was considering and now denver broncos, you had musical chairs with quarterback position because that's how big and important and talented peyton manning has been for a number of years and how successful in this league. he shut down several teams. >> thank you. >> always a pleasure. >> we'll get to end point up next.

>> while helder huntsman may not be as familiar as his son, he has made his mark. huntsman said he was born with nothing and describes his upbringing as tough. 42 years ago he started a small plastics company in southern california. >> in 1973, a small team that worked with me, we invented the big mac hamburger container. >> over the years that little company has grown into the huntsman corporation. one of the largest petrochemical plastics and industrial firms in the world. huntsman describes himself as a deal junky. who also developed an addiction for giving. >> i'm pleased to say that right from the beginning we started giving money away to charity. over 40 years ago. even when i had to borrow money from the bank. >> he's donated more than $1.2 billion so far to thousands of charities and individuals in the

united states and abroad. huntsman's main charitable focus for nearly two decades, building the huntsman cancer institute. >> i just wanted to have the best in the world and i believe that that is where we are today. >> that's because cancer has hit his family hard. his mother taught him about the importance of giving died from cancer. as did his father and stepmother. huntsman wasn't spared. he's survived prostate cancer, mouth cancer, and two types of skin cancer. so he built a state of the art cancer center that uses cutting edge technology to treat patients and has top scientists searching for cures. he uses his own experience as a patient to create an environment that eases patient's fears and gives them hope. >> i've learned a great deal about hospital, about service, about food, about cleanliness, about how patients need hope and inspiration in their lives. >> which is why many parts of the hospital look more like a hotel than a cancer treatment

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