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and that's it for us. erin burnett "out front," starts now. thanks, anderson. mitt romney wins in illinois. it was big. but was it big enough? and what do tonight's results mean for rick santorum? what was an israeli attack on iran mean for america? let's go "out front." good evening, everyone. a big win for mitt romney in illinois. and a state he needed to win, after a new bruising weeks on the campaign trail. and two major losses to rick an storm in alabama and mississippi a week ago.
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and jabs at president obama. >> we once built an interstate, and the pipeline. we led the world in manufacturing, investments, and today, we lead in lawsuits. when we replace a law professor with a conservative man as president, that's going to end. rick santorum, in his home state of pennsylvania tonight, looking a little less cheerful but trying to state on message. >> we must go out and fight this fight. we must go out and nominate someone who understands, not because some pollster tells them. you know in your gut big things are adrift and at stake in this election. so, i ask each and every one of
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you, to join us. >> so, where did mitt romney get his support tonight? john king's been analyzing the voting data. he noticed some interesting trends. let's start with the county by county map. i love when you do that. what stood out in who voted for him in illinois? >> math is in the end, erin. you see a lot of purple. at first glance, you might say senator santorum is winning. he is not winning. governor romney is winning big in the chicago suburbs by about 30 points. the cook county suburbs. in chicago itself, governor romney, above 50%. if you move around, to lake county. governor romney, 50%. move to page county. governor romney, 50%. this is where most of the people of the state live. and in statewide elections, you have to run up the margins up here and hope your opponent doesn't win down here. senator santorum, winning in the
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rural counties. come over here. 47%. but you have less populated tea party voters, evangelical voters, christian conservatives. those voters go for santorum. in the south or in neighboring iowa, governor romney doing what he needed to do up here. this has been the consistent romney model in the urban areas. not only win, but win big. that's where the tv advertising is aimed, in those markets. the tv ad count here. look at this. in the chicago market, that's romney spending right there. that's all romney spending in the chicago market. you take that away, look at that. his rivals complaining, we're being unspent, looking at that map, money well spent. >> in chicago, in terms of romney versus santorum spending. what about the exit polls?
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did anything surprise you or stand out in illinois specifically? >> a couple of nuggets here. governor romney won among voters who identify as conservatives. they tend to go for santorum or going risch. governor romney did well. he won among those who identify themselves as supporters of the tea party. he did well among working women. we had conversations about the gender gap in this complain. he won among those who think the economy is getting worse and those who think the economy is getting better. and he fared better. senator santorum carried the downscale we talked about in the beginning, but not as big a margin in illinois. is it just one state? is it more moderate in other states? or can governor romney carry this over?
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>> john king, thank you very much. earlier tonight, before we knew the results and knew the exit poll numbers, we had three burning questions about the race. let me start with you, wolf. number one, we wanted to know if mitt romney would win convinc g convincingly. do you think tonight is convincingly? especially when you take into account what john king said, he is able to win with conservatives. >> he won very convincingly in illinois. a lot more convincingly in illinois, than in michigan, a state he was born, or ohio, for that matter. it's a divisive and impressive win in illinois. for all practical purposes, this was a two-man race. newt gingrich was never in the race in illinois. it was between santorum and romney. they campaigned there. romney spent a lot more money and a better organization. he won decisively in illinois.
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>> john avlon, the person who focuses on the 40% that is independent, would you say this is a convincing win? >> this was a stomping win for mitt romney tonight. the most broad-based win he had since nevada in the u.s. he made some significant inroads. some of the fault lines that have been under this gop race, still exist. very conservative voters. evangelicals going for rick santorum. you see how rick santorum does on the rural counties other than the urban strongholds for mitt romney. >> did rick santorum surprise to the downside? or come in where you thought he would? >> the truth is, if he's going to grow the brand and demonstrate he's going to win a general election, he has to do
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well in the suburban counties. they're like places in northern virginia and suburban philadelphia place where's a candidate has to win for the presidency. >> you look at the brand of rick santorum. he does seem to be riding on that. you wonder if he has the organization to keep going. the tweet was santorum made $300,000 off of sweater vests. a few months ago, that was endearing. but it needs to be more than that. >> $300,000 is not going to go far in a media market like chicago. he made a tactical blunder wasting two days in puerto rico. he got clobbered over the weekend in ohio. he could have spent two days in illinois. he would have spent a little closer if he had worked hard in illinois this past week. but nose are the decisions you make. he has organizational problems. financial problems.
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it's a tough challenge. i'm impressed that santorum has done as well as he has over all of these months because he came from virtually nothing and was at a severe disadvantage. it's now for all practical purposes, a two-man race. >> he has charisma, as the sweater vest point makes. without organization and without expectations of himself, he surged. and people meet him face-to-face. he gets that connection. >> this is the ultimate boot strap campaign. but you can't base a presidential campaign on apparel sales. he's got to build a real organization. he has louisiana and wisconsin coming up. these are states he could win. but he can't make the unforced errors he did going into illinois. >> louisiana makes me think of a person who has not come up. that's newt gingrich. he's lost 29 of the last 31 contests. we hear today that he's hemorrhaging cash. people haven't been paid, say
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reports. how much longer does he have? >> like he said, he would -- a big super pac owner. a core supporter of the guy sustaining you in this race, has acknowledged he would be happy to support mitt romney. what does mike huckabee think? how would he have done? >> mike huckabee would be cleaning up right now. i hope he feels good about his radio show because he could be leading the nomination for president right now. but you ask the question, how low can newt go? two interesting tells. when he gives up a state and doesn't compete, he gets right around that 10% margin mark. we'll see where the numbers end up. but he does well for a guy who says i'm not competing. second thing, he's reading a book on contested primaries throughout history. and given newt, as a self-styled
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historian, when he says i'm taking it to tampa, you have to believe that's his intention. >> we were talking about cicciaro. and it sounded like that. wolf, you know newt so well. you've known him for a very long time. he may want to stay in this until the end. but financial matters ultimately will determine it. you have to pay your campaign staff. and you can't pay them with super pac money. >> and i don't think newt gingrich is going to want to emerge from this race for the republican presidential nomination in deep personal bankruptcy, with a lot of outstanding debt. he's a couple hundred thousand dollars in debt right now. presumably he'll be able to take that up with fund-raising. but i don't think he wants to emerge with personal debt. he couldn't pay some of the staffers, some of the media experts. that would be something i don't think is in newt gingrich's character. but we'll see.
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he's angry at mitt romney. you saw, erin, tonight, in the statement he made after romney's impressive win in illinois. he basically said, this guy's spending 7-1. and why should republicans nominate someone who spends that kind of money to win a race like illinois. he's bitter. angry at mitt romney. doesn't like santorum much longer. we'll see how much longer he goes on. ron paul is staying in this for the time being because he has his own agenda. >> what about women? john king has talked about that. the war in women, has always been forward. >> mitt romney won women voters tonight. you saw ann romney speak to that directly. women come up to me and talk about the economy. stop focusing on social issues. you see romney tonight, scoring among women decisively. >> thank you very much.
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what a big win for mitt romney tonight. and next, paul ryan. his budget. calls it the path to prosperity. and israel day attacks iran. we have that.
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know big things are adrift and
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so, representative paul ryan, chairman of the house budget committee unveiled the budget plan today. he calls the path it to prosperity. now the plan includes budget cuts, medicare reforms and a simpler tax code that has two tax brackets, 10% and 25%. i had the chance to have a long conversation with the chairman today. and i asked what he'd do about the loopholes and tax deduct ductions? i know the simpson bowls plan.
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would you now be onboard with that? i talked so some home builders. and they say they're prepared for that. they think the country could handle it. >> i have heard the same thing from the home builders, as well, and realtors. what simpson bowles did on the 23% top rate, what we're saying is we want to hear from the country. we want to do this out in the open. with this kind of a rate structure you can afford some of these kinds of deductions which i think should be circumscribed as helping the middle income earners and not higher income earnings. there's still accommodation to still raise the revenues by having these kind of policies. we need to have that kind of conversation. i'm on the ways and means committee. we have had some hearings on this and we're trying to get the right combination of things. we're saying dramatically curtail the loopholes in the tax code today. >> do you have any regrets about not voting for simpson-bowles? >> no. >> when i look at the one-page
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summary and your 98-page report, you're 80% overlap. >> alan and erskine i really like the guys a lot. i'm friends with them. what i didn't want to do was to go to the country and suggest i'm fixing the problem like with simpson-bowles when i'm not, when it doesn't include healthcare. simpson-bowles is silent on those. alice rivlin and i had an amendment to this, to complete the package to have fundamental healthcare entitlement will reform. that was rejected by the elected democrats and as a result it wasn't passed. i didn't think this fixes the problem. simpson-bowles has a lot of good things to it and i put a lot of in our budget. but it doesn't fix the problem. i want to fix the problem. i want to stop this debt crisis. i want to stop medicare from going bankrupt and compromising the security of many seniors. >> a lot of people are saying that your plan would hurt the seniors.
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kaiser permanente, 70% of americans are satisfied with medicare and satisfied with what they get out of medicare. what do you say to them? it sounds like what you're trying to do is not what america wants. >> actually, if they look at the details, i would argue it is. because they would prefer our plan versus the president's plan. >> why is that? >> because the president's plan which is in law takes half a trillion dollars from medicare to spend on his healthcare law. and then it puts a board of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in charge of putting price controls on medicare which will lead to denied care for current seniors. we get rid of that. we get rid of the rationing board, we stop the rate of the medicare and we leave the benefit intact for people in and near retirement. but in order to cash flow this commitment to the current seniors we which these we should do, you need to reform it for the next generation. we're about the same age, it's not going to there for us when we retire. there's a bipartisan idea out
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there, called premium support, just like the plan that members of congress have that says let's give medicare beneficiaries a fee for medicare service included and let them pick around the competing plans like in many other areas of life and subsidize based on need. more for the poor and a lot less for the wealthy person. doing it that way which has bipartisan support saves medicare and helps us keep the commitment to today's seniors. i would think -- it took me five sentences to explain that though, that's the challenge. when you're running against the 30-second ads, it becomes a challenge. but i think the country's ready for this. i think the country wants to be talked to like adults and not pandered to like children with the medicare ads. >> picking a healthcare plan is the most horrific thing that -- i never know whether i'm doing the right thing. i never know how to do it. i think there's a real fear of
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doing that. you pick the wrong one and you're stuck with it. how do you get around that problem that most people don't want to have to pick it? they just know they'll get what they need. >> millions of seniors pick medicare advantaged plans today. they can change it if they want to. many more pick a private part "d" plan and they can change it every year. seniors pick medicare supplemental plans. and they can change it every year. federal employers and members of congress have a list of plans to choose from every year. we pick our plan, it's subsidized, we pay the difference. and if we want to change the plan next year, we can do that. people in life already do this so it's not a big stretch to say we can do it in a better way to save medicare. the guarantee not only for this generation but for the next generation. >> on april 3, my state, maryland, and your state wisconsin vote. your state carries more weight. it's the next big battleground state. who are you going to vote for? >> i'm not going to touch that with a ten-foot pole. i'm right now the chair of the general election presidential trust of the rnc.
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so, i'm neutral on this. because i'm in charge of the general election fund, which we still haven't completed financing. we're winner take all. i don't know what you are in maryland. it's a fairly high stakes outcome. >> will you vote and keep it secret? >> of course i'm going to vote in the primary. >> has anyone directly approached you, any of the three leaders right now, about a v.p.? >> no. no. it's -- they're not -- they have to win this primary first before they can start thinking about that stuff. >> oh, no, they don't. but that's okay. >> all right. >> they can still think about it. chairman ryan, thank you. >> thank you erin. let's bring in john avlon. obviously some interesting things there on the horserace and the budget. let's start with the budget. what do you make of his defense of his medicare proposal? because that is where he's getting a lot of heat from the democrats. >> that's where he took a lot of heat before. i think he's moved it to work with the democratic senator ron
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wyden. so, he was less susceptible to tax. we are in the political silly season. democrats will run that attack on him anyway. they'll run the same medicare attack on him. they know that they can get a lot of people who are just frightened of their benefits being taken away. and use it to sort of attack the plan. even though he's trying to make some moves there. credit paul ryan. in all seriousness for creating a clear contrast and a plan that tries to deal with the generational theft and this is such a political document. he goes to the base for taxes and the long-term debt reduction is set out two or three decades out right now because he's so focused on lowering the rates. so, you know, when i hear him, i get so frustrated about the bowles-simpson vote, he said he wanted to take on the healthcare reform directly. largely for political reasons. so, he and his two republican cohorts walked away from the best opportunity for it to be
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the bipartisan deal. >> and now, in retrospect, of course he he's not going to say i regret it. only one way he could have answered that question, unless he wanted to cause a firestorm. you say, if you could have gotten all that and you think you had a chance this election season which they say they do, although the president looks very strong right now, they would have been able to deal with healthcare anyway. >> it's one of the great lost opportunities of our political cycle. people who say they're thinking of the country and the real fiscal challenges, to walk away from that deal, when their votes, the three votes would have binding and forced congress to vote on a proposal, proposal that would have cut tax rates and look to raised revenue like he's proposing today while being serious and have a broad base of support that's a historic lost opportunity that he walked away from and that those who care about the deficit and the debt, this makes the base very happy on the republican side of the aisle. but not that it has a better
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shot bipartisan support than bowles and simpson. >> and the equity of fairness, it's stormed into the republican dialogue. but first, chris van holland who was on the supercommittee from maryland hit on the issue when he rebutted paul ryan's plan today. here he is. >> the reality is that seniors are going to face the increasing healthcare costs. they're going to go up and they're going to see their taxes go up. because what the budget is proposing is to give over $100,000 in tax cuts if you're a millionaire and squeeze more on middle income taxpayers. so, the argument here is not whether or not we should reduce the deficit. we have to do that. the question is whether you do it in a lopsided way and puts all the burden on middle income taxpayers. >> what's interesting of course that's the democratic line of thinking but you know when i
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read the ryan plan, he opens the door -- he made -- and we talked about and the rest of the interview is online. a lot of wealthier americans will pay more under the plan -- >> with the effective tax rate. >> he's lowering the overall rates for most people and getting rid of loopholes. that isn't something that was really part of the republican rhetoric six months ago. >> actually, explicitly the opposite. this was one of the arguments that helped derail the grand bargain. over and abovebowles-simpson. some folks on the conservative side said not. that violates the pledge. here one of the interesting things about the plan is he's saying we're going to raise an enormous amount of revenue. >> he said it could double the current revenue in tax. he'd cut the tax rate, but he says he can bring in $2 trillion total by closing the loopholes and he wants to close them. i thought that was a big headline. >> that is a big headline.
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not the headline he wants out of the plan. >> of course not. >> it goes to the heart of how we know the bipartisan deal can work. that was part of the bowles-simpson idea. you can close loopholes and raise revenue. that should be a win-win. only in washington is that not a win-win. we're back to the broad argument. the bad news is the lost opportunities from the bowles-simpson commission, to the supercommittee. >> the supercommittee. >> super fail. >> thanks very much. well, we talked about the two tax rates that he has proposed, 10% and 25%, social issues, the entire conversation available on our blog. please let us know what you think of the different aspects. we want your feedback. ahead, what would happen if israel attacked iran? well, the united states military staged a war game simulation of that exact thing. we'll tell you what ended up happening. 7.4 magnitude earthquake rocked mexico today.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about. where we focus on the own reporting, do the work and find the out front five. first, the big news tonight. republican front-runner mitt romney won the illinois primary. cnn projects based on results and exit polls.
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romney will pick up the largest share of the state's 54 delegates up for grabs tonight. rick santorum will finish second. newt gingrich and ron paul far behind. the latest election results are running on the bottom of your screen. number two, 7.4 magnitude earthquake rocked southern mexico today. at least 800 homes collapsed in a town near the quake's epicenter. however, it's unclear how many people are hurt. the videos shown shows a bus crushed by a collapsed bridge. cnn spoke with some tourists in the resort town of acapulco, who felt the quake, but not a lot of damage there. number three, the attorney for robert bales, accused of killing 16 afghan civilians, said he'll travel to afghanistan to conduct his own investigation. john henry browne talked to our own ted rowlands. he met with bales for a second day at ft. leavenworth. he said his client has not confessed to the shootings and
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he spoke about what his client has been asking. >> his first questions were about safety and security of his -- and then the second series of questions were about his family. he never once mentioned his own plight. >> browne expects bales will be charged on thursday. number four, cnn has learned that president obama will fast track the permit for the second half of the keystone pipeline. he'll make the announcement in oklahoma. a source familiar with the situation told cnn. in january, you may recall the obama administration denied a permit for the keystone pipeline, which stretches from texas to canada. but this fast-track permit is for a section of the pipeline that ones from oklahoma down to the gulf of mexico. it's 229 days since the united states lost the top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? well, $75.4 billion was sent to the u.s. treasuries. the profits came from assets,
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mortgage related assets that the fed required during the financial crisis. well, this talk of military action against iran continues. the country's scream leader tells the world today that iran will attack if it has to defend itself. >> we do not have nuclear weapons and we shall not build nuclear weapons. but should the enemy be aggressive towards us, whether the united states or the zionist regime, we will respond and reciprocate proportionally. >> and big news today, a war games simulated by the u.s. military found that an israeli strike against iran could result in a war and the death of hundreds of americans. now, that story was first reported in "the new york times." and the national security reporter broke the story. he's here tonight, along with a
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former commander from the pentagon. good to see both of you. mark, let me start with you. i know obviously you broke this story. tell me what happened in the simulation first. israel was the first to strike, correct? >> that's right. the war planners at central command started the war game by having an israeli strike on iranian nuclear sites. they wanted to see what was possible to happen afterwards. and the way the scenario played out was iran responded not only with strikes against israel, but seeing -- thinking that the u.s. was complicit in the strike they launched strikes against u.s. forces in the gulf and specifically launched a missile strike that hit a u.s. frigate killing about 200 sailors. this was one scenario, but it was interesting how it played out and it had an indelible mark on the commanders at sent com. they're trying to figure out how to keep the united states out, but it's difficult. >> you're talking about 200 armed forces members dying,
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there could be so-called say symmetric responses where iranian sponsored groups can engage in terror attacks in other countries, perhaps the united states. >> that's a big concern in the military. they didn't include that in this simulation. but one of the big fears instead of doing the sort of standard missile strike in retaliation, they would use hezbollah or other militant groups to launch strikes against u.s. embassies in the region or other u.s. interests. it would be harder to sort of control even for those kind of strikes. >> colonel, how accurate would you say this sort of war simulation was? >> erin, it's pretty accurate. internal look is an exercise that i participated in back in 2002. and as mark mentioned this is one of those exercises that centcom has done for quite a while. it's a thorough exercise and one that is based on as much realistic intelligence as you can use to craft the scenario
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and also to see what the responses would be. and they did a pretty good job from what i can tell. >> what would you say, colonel, this means in terms of what the u.s. military is assuming the likelihood of such a situation is? >> i think it's at least above 60% likelihood. it is one of the areas where you try to plan for the worst case and hope for the best case. but the military philosophy is to obviously prepare as much as they can in order to avoid a surprise or to avoid a worst case scenario such as the loss of over 200 sailors. >> mark, interesting question, interesting there about the odds, they're not sure it's going to happen, but a 60% chance. i think one of the most interesting things about your reporting even with this situation, there wouldn't be a big setback for the iranian nuclear program, correct? >> well, yeah, i mean, people would debate on the big setback. the way that the game played out, the original israeli strike
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would set back the program an estimated year. and that there was a subsequent american strike after there had been u.s. forces that were hit. that estimated a setback of another two years. some people would argue that's quite significant and worth it. others would say is it worth risking a regional war for setting it back for a couple of years. that's the type of thing not only debated in washington, but also israel. the crux of the issue right now. >> and colonel lleyton, i know some of the main simulation didn't assume that the united states came out with the massive 30,000 -- those 30,000 ton mo ps, as you call them, right? >> that's right. and the key thing about that, erin, those 30,000 pound bombs cannot be delivered technically by israel. they don't have the aircraft to do that. they would need a b-52 or b-2 to make that happen. and the only country that has those is of course the united states.
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so, what you're seeing here is a scenario that they believe might happen. but they're also using its to prepare for other scenarios. what you see is a way in which the military is looking at this situation and trying to work its way through different possibilities. kind of like a tree with many branches. >> final world to you, mark. any word of other type of scenarios they may have run? is this the most dramatic and dire, or other ones that went went farther? >> well, the reason they ran this game is to test whether they're ready for these type of scenarios. if israel were to strike, would central command forces be prepared, could they communicate, would that be command and control? certainly this was not the most dire scenario because they could have used hezbollah strikes and that type of thing. it gets increasingly complicated and this as we say in the story, general mattus thought this turned out scary enough. they're thinking of the possibilities that could be
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scarier. >> well, thank you very much, both of you. we appreciate it. next on "out front," the search expanding for the gunman in france. after horrific, grabbing a little girl by the hair. when the gun didn't work, grabbing another gun and killing her. could he be planning another attack? and the shooting death of a teenager, trayvon martin. who he was on the phone with before he was killed and what she heard. here's a chance to create jobs in america. oil sands projects, like kearl, and the keystone pipeline will provide secure and reliable energy to the united states. over the coming years, projects like these could create more than half a million jobs in the us alone. from the canadian border, through the mid west, to the gulf coast. benefiting hundreds of thousands of families throughout the country. this is just what our economy needs right now. [♪...]
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we do this at the same time every night, outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world and we begin in transwhere police are ramping up that are search for the gunman who shot and killed four people including three children outside a jewish school yesterday. the killer could be planning another attack and i asked how the authorities are planning to track down the shooter. >> erin there's massive manhunt underway here. 200 special investigators combing every lead, looking at more than 4,000 hours worth of cctv footage and one suggested that the gunman might have been wearing a camera strapped to his chest when he gunned down the four victims in this jewish school. another possibility that investigators are looking at is whether he might have been after filluated -- affiliated with a
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group dismissed for neo-nazi tendencies. they do know that there's a pattern. it was the same gun, the gunman coming on a motor bike and shooting at point-blank range. a huge hunt underway for a plan that police believe could hit again. well, was it self-defense or murder in cold flood? a family of 17-year-old trayvon martin says it was murder and there is new evidence that may help prove their case. martin's girlfriend told abc's "good morning america" she was on the phone with trayvon when he encountered with 28-year-old george zimmerman, a volunteer night watchman, on february 26th. here she is describing that final call. >> he said there was someone watching him. so, he put the hoody on. -- following him and he said, what are you doing around here? someone pushed trayvon.
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>> the phone line went dead seconds later, but a martin family attorney said that the girlfriend blows away claims of self-defense. zimmerman has not been charged in the case which has sparked claims of racial profiling and is being investigated by the fbi as a possible hate crime. as you know, part of the reason he had not been take into custody is florida state law. the investigation opens up the possibility for that to happen. and we have a criminal defense attorney and a defense attorney. trayvon's girlfriend was on the phone. once police interview her, does this affect whether they'll take him into custody or not? >> i sure hope it does. the problem here is what they failed to do. as a police department. if you have a dead person, it's a homicide case. you do your investigation and you reach out to people. there were so many things and lapses in judgment here that
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occurred that it's mind boggling. for example, he wasn't tested for alcohol or drugs. there's so many questions here. it almost begs an arrest. a self-defense argument, let's not forget it's an affirmative defense. in other words, you do the investigation, the person shows up for the grand jury hearing or arraignment. you don't just dismiss things and not go forward with the investigation. >> and george zimmerman didn't say much to the police. he said i was yelling for someone to help me, nobody would help me. he what did have a bloody nose and a cut on the back of the head. does that make it more difficult to say that self-defense is not a fair claim? >> not necessarily. florida stand your ground law says you have to meet force with force. he had a bag of skittles. how is it that you can confront someone and then all of a sudden claim that you feared for you life? it's a contradiction.
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>> how hard is this going to be to prove, take out the racial profiling part for a moment. just the fact that it was done not in self-defense. that bottom line question, because we have just these couple of phone calls, the 911 call. what is the burden of proof? >> if he's charged with murder, the burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. that's the problem here. there's been no charge. so it begs the question where is the investigation? where is the justice? that happened in all cases like this. >> let's talk about the civil rights aspect of this because you have the department of justice involved, the fbi. how difficult is it to prove this is a civil rights case? >> well, what the fbi does, they'll have a two-pronged approach. they'll see if there was any bias in george zimmerman's acts and that's how they prosecute under federal civil rights statutes. he violated the civil rights because of his actions. the second is they look to see
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if there was any color of abuse. color of law abuse, rather. in other words, did law enforcement fail to act because of bias? and therein lies another violation of civil rights. >> could have been the police department who had a racial -- >> by failing to act. usually you see it in cases where the police will overact. right, they're arresting a defendant and they may have excessive use of force. it's called color of law abuse. so you have a two-pronged approach. what could occur also is that the fbi can monitor what the state is doing. and also avail themselves for additional resources such as forensic evidence. assistance in, you know, closing out the case. >> i mean, it's hard, you're an attorney, you're trying to deal with facts and laws, but what's your sense of how this will play out? do you expect him to be charged an arrested? >> i do expect him to be charged
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an arrested, only because there's so little evidence to the contrary. if you were claiming self-defense, there has to be more evidence. i'm give you an example, someone breaks in, you have a potential thief walking into the store and is shot dead. that makes sense. you don't have that here. that is problem. you need a proper investigation. that's what's lacking. >> thank you very much. we appreciate i. well, mitt romney wins in illinois tonight. but at what cost? there was a cost. a steep one. we have the number. and possible new developments in the amelia earhart case. that's right. we're serious. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future.
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21-1, in favor of mitt romney. even before his win, romney was ahead in the polls so you may ask why all the spending? well, because he needed this win. it was insurance money. he needed the delegates and the psychological knockout which brings us to tonight's number. $2.7 million. that's the number that the super pac spent on march 6. the last time that romney was looking for a big night. mitt romney's super pac friends dropped nearbily $3 million in one day. why is that number so frightening? it's about $200,000 more than what the other candidates' super pacs spent combined so far in the month of march. well, it's been almost 75 years since amelia earhart disappeared. but now, she may be found. that's next. battle speech right? may i? capital one is issuing a venture double miles challenge. show us how much you spent last year and we'll give you 2 miles for every dollar spent on your travel reward card. up to 100,000 miles!
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we all know the story of amelia earhart, the legendary pilot that vanished on july 2, 1937. while trying to become the first woman to circumnavigate the globe. president roosevelt sent 66 planes and 9 navy ships looking for her. but she was never seen again. what happened to her is still one of the greatest mysteries of awful time. and it captivated me as a girl. in her aviator hat, i admired her glamorousness and when asked who do i admire, it was amelia earhart.
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and her plane went down in on my birthday in the year my mother was born. i believed in omens. so, today when i saw that now they might finally have found her plane, i was fascinated. in july, on her birthday, the international group for historic aircraft recovery will launch a new search to coincide with the 75th anniversary of her departure. enhanced analysis of a photograph that was actually taken just a couple of months after her plane vanished shows what experts what could be the landing gear of the plane. it will last ten days in july and it will use state of the art robotic submarines and mapping equipment. it's received the interest and support of hillary clinton. i'm betting hillary admired her too. now, the only thing is part of me feels the same way i felt as a girl when i hoped that earhart had defied the odds as the hero she was, that her plane had landed and she swum in and is

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