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unfollow anderson cooper. that's it for us tonight. "anderson cooper 360" starts right now. >> thanks very much. we have a major new development in the killing of trayvon martin in a gated community in florida. it is unfolding tonight as people here in new york put on hood dids like the one he was wearing and marched through the streets of manhattan. they want to know why a teenager armed with nothing more than skittles and a phone is dead. and george zimmerman is a free man. trayvon's parents are at the rally tonight. >> trayvon was your typical teenager. trayvon did the typical teenager things. george zimmerman took his life profiling him. my son did not deserve to die. >> we're going to interview the parents earlier today. now, in a moment a florida
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legislature who cosponsored the law who defends it, but doubts george zimmerman's claim he fired in self-defense. and something that may factor into the federal civil rights investigation. allegations that george zimmerman uttered a racial slur while on the phone with 911. we have enhanced the audio. you can decide for yourself that we'll play uncensored in a moment. but first, the breaking news that happened in sanford, florida, where david mattingly joining us live. the city commissioners passed a no confidence motion in the local police chief. what does that mean? does it mean anything? >> well, anderson, this was a no confidence vote. they voted 3-2 in no confidence in the city's police chief, bill lee. this is really a nonbinding vote, but it demonstrates to the police chief that he no longer has the support of the city commission here. and what it is saying is that they are now looking into more details, they're not going to make a decision right away.
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it doesn't mean that the chief is fired. but they are going to be looking into -- deeply into his handling of this killing of trayvon martin. and the chief has only been in office less than a year now. he does not have the support right now of the current mayor of the city, jeff triplet. i watched the mayor earlier today, as he was sitting side by side with leaders of the naacp. as people who live here were coming forward, telling stories about how for years that they have had problems with the police force here. he said at that time that there's going to be a lot of work to do to correct some of these problems. tonight might have been the first step that he was talking about. anderson? >> david, let me ask you about the investigation. because are the local police there and they have been criticized by the family of trayvon martin obviously, the attorney for that family. but are the local police still investigating this or because the fbi and justice department are investigating because there's going to be a grand jury have they taken over the
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investigation? do we know? >> the investigation itself is relatively over in terms of what the police are doing, but it's still open in case something else comes up or someone else comes forward to give them more information. they're still leaving it open in that respect. but they're turning everything over to the state's attorney and that state's attorney is looking at it and they're calling a grand jury in april to look over the evidence they have to decide if they're going to come out with any charges with anyone involved in this case. >> all right, david mattingly, appreciate the news update. pressure has been building obviously on the local police for days. the questions as david mentioned centered on how fully did police in florida investigate george zimmerman and his claim of self-confidence in accordance with the florida's deadly case law? or did they take his word on it? the family says the cops are covering up. >> they actually are trying to sweep our son's death under the rug. trayvon was a person. you know, he wasn't just a statistic.
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he was loved by his family. he was loved by his friends. >> well, they, the family, the protesters tonight, the naacp and others believe that the police tomorrow zimmerman's claim at face value and left it at this. bill lee said before florida and the justice department launched their own investigation, we don't have anything to dispute the self- defense. what did police know about george zimmerman's long record of phoning in nuisances and suspicious people or his arrest in 2005 for scuffling with an undercover police officer? he entered a pretrial diversion program allowing him to keep the record clean and that might have been missed. what about zimmerman's call to 911? his own words should have been evidence enough to form probable cause that he was pursuing trayvon martin and not acting in self-defense. >> are you following him?
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>> yeah. >> okay, we don't need you to do that. >> okay. >> well, the final question centers on another phone call, one that was taking place literally at the same time between trayvon and his girlfriend. what if anything did police know about that? did they even check trayvon's phone records or contact his girlfriend? well, the martin family attorney benjamin crump has not spoken with her. he said this man was watching him. so he put his hoody on, said he lost the man. she went on to say, quote, i asked trayvon to run and he said he was going to walk fast. i told him to run, but he said he was not going to run. she said the man caught up to trayvon. quote, trayvon said what are you following me for, and the man said what are you doing here? somebody pushed trayvon because the headset just fell. what if anything did police know about that account which in addition to the 911 call seemed
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to cast some doubt on george zimmerman's claim of self-defense? that's one of the many questions that the marchers have. as you saw a moment ago, trayvon martin's parents are here in new york tonight. i spoke with them on my daytime syndicated program, which the interview is going to air on tomorrow. also with two neighbors who are at the scene when trayvon martin was shot. the eyewitnesses have said they believe -- some of them believe it was your son calling out for help, no one saw him directly doing it or saw -- could say 100% for sure. you have heard the 911 call where you hear, help. is that your son's voice? >> yeah, that's my baby's voice. every parent knows their child and that's his voice. >> and the fact that -- if that's true, and he called out for help, what does that tell you? >> that he was afraid for his life.
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he saw his death coming. he saw his death coming. and the screams got more franticer and at that second that we heard the shot, the screams just completely stopped. he saw his death. he was pleading for his life. >> so you're saying if it was zimmerman who was screaming for help, that might have continued after the shot? but the fact that after the shot there was no more screaming for help? >> no more screaming whatsoever. it went completely silent. >> when you both went outside, you saw george zimmerman, where and where was trayvon martin? >> she was out the door first. when i came out the door, i saw him basically straddling him. he had -- you know, feet on either side of his body and his hands -- at the time i didn't know was on his back.
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and -- >> trayvon was face down? >> trayvon was face down. once he got off of the body, we could see his face was down in the grass. so at the time that he was holding his back, i didn't know if he was trying to help him, hold the wound or -- he wasn't -- we asked him several times, three times, what's going on? is everything okay? and each time he looked back, but he didn't say anything until the third time he just said call the police. >> okay. we'll have the complete interview on my daytime show tomorrow. last week george zimmerman's father said the family is receiving death claims and he claims that his son pursued trayvon martin lies. a long time friend, frank taffy is defending the george zimmerman he says he knows. so mr. taffy, you know george zimmerman. what is he like? >> george zimmerman was a very
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congenial, amiable, admirable person. he was very, very kind to everyone in our community. and i really appreciated and so did the rest of our residents in our neighborhood that he stepped up and took over the position as neighborhood watch captain to ensure the safety of all the residents in our community. >> you say he actually stopped a potential burglary at your house a couple of weeks ago before the shooting? >> that is correct. >> and were you surprised that he was carrying a gun? were you aware he carried a gun? >> i was extremely shocked to the fact that he was carrying a gun. yes. >> what shocked you? how did it shock you? >> it's a lethal weapon. it wasn't george. as i said, he was a very
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congenial, amiable man. a use of a deadly, lethal weapon as a 9 millimeter that he used was very shocking to me. it didn't fit the -- didn't fit the person. >> have there been burglaries in your neighborhood? is what -- what's the neighborhood like? >> i have lived at twin lakes since 2006. july 2006. in the last 15 months, anderson, we have experienced eight burglaries. one which was perpetrated during the daylight hours. most -- the majority of the perpetrators were young, black males. >> and when -- i mean, when you reflect on what's happening, what we know about and obviously a lot isn't known, what do you think? >> this was a perfect storm. you had a neighborhood that was
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experiencing extremely high tension, anxiety, and with the burglaries everybody was at -- pardon my phrase, we were at defcon 5. >> people believe race played a factor in this. from what you know of george zimmerman did race play a factor? >> absolutely not. >> why do you feel so strongly about that? >> george is not a racist. he was just performing his duties as watch captain, whether it be, african-american, latino, asian or white, he would have done the same thing. he would have approached that person and just asked them what's your business here? and if -- if he just answered
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him and in an appropriate manner, you know, i'm here visiting, my mother's house is around the corner, and be up-front and truthful, there wouldn't have been any problem. >> well, i appreciate your perspective. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, anderson. all right. trying to give as many different perspectives of people in that community to you tonight. let us know what you think on facebook. google plus. follow me on twitter. i'll be tweeting tonight. much more on the killing of trayvon martin. new details. did george zimmerman use a racial slur when he called 911? we're going to play you the tape. uncensored. he says something under his breath. people believe it's a racial slur. you can determine, what's important about that, if it was a racial slur that might allow the federal government to bring charges based on what was in george zimmerman's head based on him saying a racial slur.
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so it has a very important legal role and could really influence what role the federal government has moving forward in this. so that's why we're going to play it for you. we're going to look at what role the stand the ground rule played in the shooting death of a young husband and father, another case that's raised a lot of questions. we'll be right back. scans the road to reveal potential threats, even helps awaken its driver if he begins to doze. so in the blink of an eye it will have performed more active safety measures than most cars will in a lifetime. introducing the all-new 2012 m-class. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. your finances can't manage themselves.
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trayvon martin killing, the first in the nation of the deadly force law which takes away a duty for someone in jeopardy to retreat if necessary and replaces wit the legal permission to stand your ground and use deadly force. nationwide, 21 states now have stand your ground laws. since passing the law violent crime in florida has dropped, but to be fair it's also fallen nationwide. more significantly, justifiable homicide as in the kind that george zimmerman is claiming and the martin family is disputing, those have spiked in florida. they have more than doubled since the stand your ground law passed in 2005. randi kaye has another story of a life cut short and a case still underway. watch. >> reporter: when david james an iraq war iraq escaped unscathed, his wife kanina breathed a sigh of relief. >> i would worry about him. that he would be safe here. >> reporter: she was wrong. she wants to know why trevor dooley, a 71-year-old retired
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bus driver shot her husband in broad daylight, right in front of the 8-year-old daughter. dooley says it was self-defense. kanina james calls it murder. >> what person brings a gun to a park? when there's children. i mean, he killed my husband. he could have just stopped him. >> reporter: whether or not trevor dooley fired in self-defense is at the heart of this case. also central to the this story is dooley's defense. florida's stand your ground rule which allows a person to stand their ground and use deadly force if they fear someone could seriously harm them. here's what we witnesses say happened on that september sunday in 2010. 41-year-old david james was playing basketball with his daughter here. when witnesses say dooley who lived right across the street started yelling at a teenager
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who was skateboarding to get off the court. that's when witnesses say james intervened. james yelled back to dooley, asking him to show where any signs said no skateboarding. dooley then crossed the street to the park to confront james. a tennis player at the park, michael witt, testified things turned ugly when dooley reached for his waistband. the two men struggled on the ground before james was shot, once through the heart. on the 911 call, witt is heard trying to help. >> can you hear me, sir, can you hear me, sir, can you hear me? >> he's not breathing? >> he's not breathing. >> what do you want to say about what happened? >> no comment. >> reporter: dooley tells a different story, that contradicts the witnesses. he says when he took the gun out of his right front pocket, james saw it and knocked him to the ground. at a hearing to get the charges
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dismissed, dooley testified, quote, he was choking me to death. >> you do not want to go to jail for killing david james? >> no. >> reporter: his client turned to walk away towards home and that james was the aggressor. he said dooley did pull a gun, but didn't use it until he felt his life was threatened. he said the charges against his client should be dropped, given the stand your ground law. kanina james said her husband had never been aggressive. she believes what i was trying to protect himself and their daughter danielle after he saw dooley pull the gun. >> he loved danielle so much. that breaks my heart that trevor dooley took my daughter's best friend away from her. she'll never have her daddy.
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>> reporter: danielle's testify about how and why it turned violent is key in a case that hinges on self-defense. danielle recalled how her father asked where the signs are that there's no skateboarding on the court. >> my dad got on top of him. so he could keep him down so he could get the answer. >> where were your dad's hands? >> on his arms. >> on the man's arms? >> yeah. >> reporter: the little girl then recalled her father's last moments. >> i think the guy pulled out the gun then. >> did you hear anything? >> yeah. >> what'd you hear? >> like when it shot. >> you heard a gunshot? >> yeah. >> did your dad say anything then? >> yeah. >> what did he say? >> call the ambulance, i've been shot. >> reporter: when kanina james got there, her husband was already dead and her daughter was crying, asking why isn't anyone helping my daddy?
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randi kaye, cnn, florida. so the stand your ground law may be at the heart of this case, moving forward. let's take a closer look now at the controversial law. short time ago i talked with dennis baxter, a cosponsor of stand your ground and also senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. i know you don't want to get ahead of the grand jury and i totally understand the reasoning behind that. from what you know about the killing of trayvon martin, do you believe that the man who fired the gun, george zimmerman should be protected by the stand your ground law, that you were a cosponsor of? >> well, the cassel document, also stand your ground, is about protecting people from violent attack. and there's nothing in this statute that provides for a person to be able to pursue and confront other people. so i think any individual is on
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very thin ice when they get outside the realm of that protection. >> jeff, you wrote a column today essentially saying that the folks behind this law have a lot to answer for. >> absolutely. representative baxley, wouldn't florida be a safer place under the old law, which said if you're carrying a gun in your pocket and you're on a public street and you get involved in a confrontation, you have a duty to step back and let the police handle it instead of firing your gun yourself. wouldn't florida be safer with the duty to retreat? >> well, in fact, florida is not unique. this very statute went to 26 more states after it left here, so we're really in line with about half the country or more. more than half the country. and, in fact, the difficulty with the duty to retreat is it's really a monday morning quarterback armchair situation where you're saying a person could have done something different. when you're in that moment, and you're under attack, you have to
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make a decision. do you want to be the victim or do you want them to be the victim that's the perpetrator of this action against you? so i'm going to stand on -- i'm going to stand on the side of law abiding citizens and say you have the right to defend yourself from harm. >> were you surprised to hear that somebody in a neighborhood watch was carrying a weapon, a gun? >> i was. because from what i have heard about the crime watch program, typically that's not part of the scenario because of what could happen. so there's a lot of questions to be answered in that regard. and there may need to be some legislation in the regard. i would hate to dilute the protection that we have provided law abiding citizens to act in the interest of their families and themselves. >> you don't believe the stand your ground needs to be rewritten in any way? >> no, i don't. i think this may be other legislation, but i would hate to diminish the fact that we have truly developed a policy that allows people to prevent bad things from happening to them and their families.
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and it's been successful. >> jeff toobin, what raises questions to you about this? >> what raises questions is that it essentially gives private citizens the license to say, hey, i feel threatened, so i'm going to fire my gun. i think that is why we have a trained police force. that is not why -- that is not a safe situation, whether it's in -- >> well, here's the flaw. here's the flaw with your analysis. you know, one of my five children is a deputy sheriff and he says, dad, you need to be prepared. you need to carry a firearm in your vehicle because usually when we get there it's all over. we can't be everywhere that these things happen. and people are looking for -- we have a very high -- >> representative, with all due respect to your son, isn't it true that most florida law enforcement oppose this law? >> no, not at all. i can tell you i have had a lot of feedback -- >> i know you have feedback
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afterwards, but before the legislature, florida law enforcement opposed changing the duty to retreat because they think they're trained to use weapons and it's not a good idea to give private citizens a license to shoot when they feel threatened. >> that's not the opinion on the street where this happens. they understand that -- >> well, i know it's the opinion of one street in orlando these days. >> you can be the victim of violence and you have to be prepared to take care of yourself and your family and you need to empower law abiding citizens to be able to do that. that doesn't mean we don't have great empathy. i'll tell you right now, you know, i have spent 40 years in funeral service taking care of families and friends who have gone through just such tragedies. and my heart goes out to them and i offer the martin family my sincere sympathy and condolence. at the same time, we want to make sure we continue to protect other families who are the subject of an invasion and attack and they should be
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empowered to stop bad things from happening. they have. they did. and for that reason i think the statute has been a success. >> representative baxley, i appreciate your time tonight. jeff toobin as well, thanks. >> thank you, i appreciate your call. well, still ahead tonight, did george zimmerman use a racial slur moments before killing trayvon martin on that 911 tape? we tried to clean up the background noise as much as possible on the recording. we'll play it ahead for you, without beeping out anything. this is really crucial moving forward to whether or not the federal government gets involved and what they might charge zimmerman with. message i've been practicing how to talk like a true chicagoan. switching to geico could save you hundreds of dollars on car insurance... da bears. haha... you people sure do talk funny. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more
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updating the breaking news, the city of sanford passing a no confidence vote in police chief bill lee in the wake of the trayvon martin. what george zimmerman did say or did not say in moments before he shot trayvon martin. did he use a racist slur? there's a big debate over two words he may have used in the call. some hear an ugly racial insult and an expletive. and others hear nothing of the sort. the police department admitted that they missed a possible racist remark in the call. here's what sergeant david morganstern told us, i said we didn't hear it. however, i'm not sure what was said. i never said we missed a racist remark. he went on to say, quote, i'm not sure what was said.
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i heard something, but again, not clear to what was said i did not hear it until i was the pointed out to me. before we tell you what the alleged slur is, we're going to let you listen for yourself with fresh ears and make up your own mind. for that, we enlisted the help of one of cnn's top audio engine engineering. we need to warn you, the video is offensive and if you bleep it, you'll have a harder time hearing what some believe they hear. >> this is edit room 31 in atlanta. this is one of the most sophisticated audio edit suites in the broadcast news business. this is rick sierra and he's one of the best audio experts in the business. rick, if you can, i have not listened to this portion of the 911 tape at all. i just want to hear it raw right now, if you can play ten seconds before it and let's listen. >> okay. -- down towards the entrance of the neighborhood. >> which entrance is he headed towards? >> the back entrance.
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>> you may not have heard the moment in question because it was so quick. how long does that portion last that everyone is talking ab? >> a second, 18 frame. >> there's about 1.6 seconds? >> correct. >> so let's listen to it like ten times in a row if we can. >> okay. what we're listening for is the racial slur coons. it follows the "f" word. others say they hear it, others don't. it's certainly a lot clearer when we listen to it this way. >> correct. >> is there anything else we can do to make it clearer? >> i already did a little bit of boosting it at 2.2 kilo hertz and at 4.6. it's boosting the high end of the voice -- >> sounds like the power of the flex capacitor -- >> that's right. he lowered the bass. so why is it that you want to get rid of the low end of the audio, the bass of the audio? >> to minimize the noise. >> so that takes away the noise,
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allows us to hear the voice more clearly. >> that's correct. i'll boost it up more there. and we'll give it a shot here. >> f'ing coons, f'ing coons. >> that does sound a little clearer to me. you know, it sounds like the allegation could be accurate, but i wouldn't swear to it in court. that's what it sounds like to me. >> yeah. very difficult to really pinpoint what he's saying. >> rick, can we play just that second, what we think the second word is and hear if it sounds any different? >> okay. i mean it sounds like that to me, but you can't be sure. that sounds more like the word than using wit the -- before that. >> that's correct. >> only george zimmerman knows if he used the slur, by he's not talking. so the phone call remains so much a mystery.
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gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> fascinating to hear it like that. let us know what you think on twitter. let's talk about why this is so important, whether or not he used that slur. senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin is joining us on the phone right now. why does this legally matter? >> it's extremely, extremely significant because the federal government is not allowed to prosecute just your ordinary, everyday murder. two people fighting on the street is not a federal crime. however, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial an amos, that is a crime and if before the murder zimmerman used the racial enthreat to refer to the person he ultimately shot that puts it within the fbi and the justice department's ambit of a case
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that they can pros cute. >> we know he already said -- he used the word a-holes and they always get away. we don't know what he meant by they in reference to trayvon martin. the other thing i want to ask you about, what we're getting a lot of response from twitter. there was one who knew george zimmerman, who defended him, had trayvon martin simply answered george zimmerman's question about what are you doing here, none of this would have happened. a lot of response on twitter, why should anybody have to answer a question of some guy who, you know, has no real authority to ask that question? is there any responsibility that somebody has to answer a question from some neighborhood watch guy? >> well, in the united states of america, you don't even have to answer a police officer under the fifth amendment. you have the right to remain silent as everybody know, but you certainly don't have the -- any obligation to answer some guy who's calling himself the neighborhood watch officer and
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most importantly, if you refuse to answer or even if you answer inappropriately, we don't have the death penalty for failing to answer. so the idea that trayvon's inappropriate answer is somehow justification for george zimmerman to shoot him dead on the street is completely preposterous. >> jeff toobin, appreciate you calling in. appreciate it. thank you very much. again, let us know what you think on twitter. we're having this conversation right now. other news tonight, it should have been a great news for mitt romney, but then one of the senior advisers started to talk about etch-a-sketchs. how much damage did the remarks do? we're america's natural gas
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after the decisive win in mitt romney, he picked up a big endorsement from jeb bush. a good day until the senior campaign adviser about whether his conservative position could cost him moderate votes in november. here's the answer. >> i think you hit a reset button for the campaign. like an etch-a-sketch. you can shake it up and we start all over again. >> everything changes like an etch-a-sketch. romney's rivals have long accused him of changing his stripes to win votes. here's newt gingrich. >> you have to stand for something positive and you have to stand -- pardon me, you have
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to stand for something that lasts longer than this. >> rick santorum showed up in louisiana with an etch-a-sketch in hand. >> you're not looking for an etch-a-sketch candidate. you're looking for somebody who writes what they believe in in stone and stays true to what they say. >> all right. as for the aide, he seemed to backpedal in this statement saying, quote, i was talking about the race as we move into the primary to the general election. the campaign changes and you focus on different issues. his boss seemed to say something very different. >> the issues i'm running on will be exactly the same. i'm running as a conservative republican. i was a conservative republican governor. i'll be running as a conservative republican nominee for president. and the policies and positions are the same. >> joining me is a republican strategist, adviser to the
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republican campaign. my producer has 68 e-mails with etch-a-sketch somewhere in the subject line. is it fair to say this has gotten so much pickup because it feeds into the criticism about governor romney he'll change his positions to get elected? >> on a day like this in a campaign, anderson, you have to ask yourself what matters to voters. i don't think this matters to new voters. gaffes like this will get some attention. but the person who filled up their car with $4 gas and person who is worried about finding a job, they're wholly unconcerned with this type of discussion and debate that we have about the internal dynamics of what staffers say on campaigns. and i think that was borne out by the fact that the governor has spent his entire campaign, particularly in places like illinois, that was so important, focussed on the economy, focused on the big issues, and focused about -- on the issues what's going to use to beat barack obama in the general election.
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and because of that, he was rewarded with the 12 point victory in illinois. i think going forward that's exactly what the campaign does. focuses on the economy. focuses on the governor's issue and vision. >> alice, your campaign has been having a bit of fun with this. they showed up a romney campaign with free etch-a-sketchs. your boss suffered a loss in illinois. you'd much rather talk about etch-a-sketchs than delegate counts. is it fair to be harping on this? >> it is, anderson, and with all due respect to kevin, this does matter to voters because there's been the perception for quite some time as what will mitt romney do as things progress? he talks a good conservative game, but you look at his record. he's been very liberal on many of the key issues that voters are concerned with. being romney care who was the prototype for obamacare. he was pro abortion, many issues that don't toe the conservative line. what we heard from the romney camp this morning confirmed all
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the speculation was that if he wins the nomination in the primary, he's going to abandon his conservative principles and create a candidate that he'll need for the general. this is what -- this is what the voters will see if he gets the nomination. a blank slate. go back -- right back to the middle. >> your candidate has a problem with anybody who's not a very conservative voter or evangelical voter or a rural voter. i mean, your candidate is having real problems in the suburbs among women, among essential voters who are going to be in the general election. why should anyone believe he has the path to the nomination? >> well, the voters have a problem with mitt romney -- >> well, he has more votes and more delegates than your candidate. >> he's outspending us ou 21-1 -- >> but such is the life. >> but he's not energizing conservatives around him. we need a man-to-man debate. we need the two of them to go at
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it face to face on the issues. and when it comes to core values, conservative values, they need to be etched in stone. they don't need to be on the etch-a-sketch. people realize that rick santorum is true to his conservative convictions, has been in the past and that's the way to judge him in the future. >> is it fair for the gingrich and santorum campaign to keep harping on the huge advantage in the money that mitt romney has? >> does it fair to voters? no, i think the answer to that is clearly is no. i mean, look, campaigns, you need resources, you need organization and you need a message. we happen to have all three. and the other campaigns are quite deficient in all three. so that's how you win campaigns. i think governor romney is winning ofton strength of the message and what happens is a lot of the resources that we use we use it to get out of a message of what he'd do on the big issues, the economy. how he'd turn that around. what he would do to drive down deficits. what he would do to create jobs.
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that's what i what he's winning. >> appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. up next, the latest on the day long standoff in france, where the suspect in seven murders including four at a jewish school on monday is holed up. we have learned a lot about this guy's background. tell you about it just ahead. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and application sites between these products differ. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or, signs in a woman which may include changes in body hair or a large increase in acne, possibly due to accidental exposure. men with breast cancer or who have or might have prostate cancer, and women who are, or may become pregnant or are breast feeding
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♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] not everything powerful has to guzzle fuel. the 2012 e-class bluetec from mercedes-benz. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. hundreds of police in france surrounding an apartment where suspected serial killer described as an al qaeda trained jihadist has been holed up for hours. a short time ago, there were
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explosions outside the apartment. the explosions were a way to try to pressure the 23-year-old suspect to surrender. cnn affiliate in france said this is the suspect, mohammed merah. he's wanted in connection with seven murders in the past ten days. dan rivers is live in toulouse, france w the latest. there's been some explosions in the last couple hours. what's going on now? >> reporter: yeah, a couple more in the last minute or so, anderson. at the end of this street. we're being told consistently by the interior ministry that the operation to get him out has not started yet. but we have heard gunshots and then what sounded like a stun grenade in the last minute or so. so we will keep an eye on what's going on here. we're almost 21, 22 hours into the siege and the suspected terrorist is refusing to come out, or dialogue with negotia r
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negotiators. >> we've got new video of the suspect. how much do we know about this guy? >> reporter: well, mohammed merah was known to french intelligence. 23-year-old who is thought to have been in terrorist training camps in afghanistan. travelled to pakistan. it's thought that he may have been arrested and detained in afghanistan. some reports suggesting he was deported back to france by the u.s. certainly we're being told that he was under surveillance for some time here in france. and there will be really probing questions when all this is over about how and why french intelligence apparently let him slip through the fingers. two weeks ago, he was before a court on a minor motor offenses and he seemed to disappear from the net. they didn't know where he was and then suddenly we have these
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killings. seven people over the last week or so, including three children shot at point blank range. still ahead, let's check in with the 360 news and business. >> the united nations security council called on the assad government today to end the bloodshed in syria. but it's falling on deaf ears. neighborhoods were shelled in homs. at least 79 people were killed across syria today. a 360 follow, 19-year-old darrell degman of mississippi was sentenced to life in prison for the death of a young black man. he was beaten and run over by a truck driven by him. starbucks has reached an agreement to sell single serving coffee packs in green mountain's newest coffee machine which is called the view. investors pushed shares of green mountain up 12%.
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and talk about taking the plunge. a young canadian woman who's confined to a wheelchair took a dive on a bungee cord while strapped into her chair. she won a contest won by a group who helps disabled people participate in extreme sports. >> thank you. if you think getting a jury duty summons is pain, at least you're not getting it when in third grade. we'll explain. ♪ oh! [ baby crying ] ♪ what started as a whisper ♪ every day, millions of people choose to do the right thing. ♪ slowly turned to a scream ♪ there's an insurance company that does that, too. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? ♪ amen, omen
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time now for the "the ridiculist" and tonight, someone
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messed up this time because in massachusetts a 9-year-old has been called for jury duty. his name is jacob. he's in the third grade. he has been summoned to appear in the local district court on april 18 for jury selection. >> i got jury duty. i said what's jury duty? summon for jury service. if you're picked then you go up to the -- and you say guilty or not guilty. if i was 18, however, i'd -- i would have to go. >> jacob's grandmother says he's -- his birth year was incorrectly listed as 1982 instead of 2002. so not only is jacob been summoned for jury duty, he's also turning 30 this year which is a lot to handle when you're 9 years old. his dad seems to be taking it all in stride. >> i think he'd do well. i think he's impartial. he'd be able to be objective. as long as there's no jury tampering. if someone offered him an xbox game he'd do as they asked. >> the jury commissioner is not
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sure what went wrong. >> it could have been a data entry error at the town. it could have been -- it could have been on the census form that the parents fill out. >> or it could just be that they really, really want to get this kid on a jury because this actually isn't the first time he's been summoned. that's right. it happened once before when he was 2 years old. i don't want to be whyper boll think, i'm not sure it's airtight, because a couple of years ago this cat got called for jury duty. his name is sal, sal esposito. feline jury, tonight on claw and order. so obviously the idea of cat being jurors, i mean it's absurd. just do not expect them to take diligent notes. but 9-year-old boys, why not? with all apologies to william golden, it might be good to see them made up of 9-year-old boys.
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the recess would take on an entirely different meaning. it might be a nice stress reliever when everyone giggles when the judge says civic duty. >> i don't think it's fair for me to be on a jury because i can read thoughts. >> dismissed. >> welcome aboard. >> all right. that may seem extreme, but check this out, a guy in montana requested to be excused from jury duty that said in part and i quote, apparently, you morons didn't understand me the first time. i would rather count the wrinkles on my dog's [ bleep ] than sit on a jury. wow. that's quite a visual, isn't it? the point is, the next time you grumble about getting a jury summons just remember in the criminal justice system the people represented by two separate but equally important group -- the juries which are