is china trying to woo canada away from the united states. and analysts try to pinpoint exactly who was screaming on the 911 tapes. 99% of canada's oil exports come to america. today president obama met with his nafta pals for a two-hour closed door meeting. when they appeared in public. well the president slapped felipe calderon on the back, the other guy, the leader of canada. this is how america's most

special relationship is playing out. because yes sorry britain, canada is the country that lights america's fires literally, canada is the number one supplier of black gold to america. if you were with hoping there would be special bonding like watching a basketball game together or snarfing down hot dogs, your wives meeting and getting along famously. no, lorraine harper didn't even come. in fact the statement after today's meeting was -- it mentioned the budapest convention on cyber crime, but it didn't mention the keystone pipeline. part of a mini-ice age in u.s./canadian relations. here's steven harper on canadian television in january. >> just because certain people in the united states would like to see canada be one giant national park for the northern half of north america, i don't think that's part of what our review process is all about. >> he's referring to a pipeline which canada may build instead of the keystone that would run

from canada's oil sands to the pacific coast. you know, closer to china. yeah. a lot of people have a problem with that pipeline because of environmental reasons. american pipeline politics go like this. republicans tried to jam the pipeline as an amendment to a transportation bill last month, a shady back door way to get it done. while the president fast tracked approval of the lower end of the pipeline to get credit but not the more controversial northern extension required for the thing to matter. also shady. now, there are real environmental concerns about this pipeline, but instead of resolving them, our politicians dig their heels in the tar and duke out the same old talking points. but as for steven harper, he took a road trip. here's harper in february, getting front page treatment on his visit to china. prime minister harper, can you imagine if that ever happened in america? china knows canada is an energy superpower. chinese companies spent $10 billion buying canadian energy assets becoming what the eia

calls a potent presence in the oil sands. there's uranium deals too. we know president obama seen here with bo is a dog guy and prime minister harper fosters cats. here he is with one his many felines. it seems like prime minister harper told president obama how he felt about him, though. one night when he performed a famous song. ♪ i get by with with a little help from my friends ♪ ♪ i get by with a little help from my friends ♪ ♪ i need somebody to love ♪ i want somebody to love >> maybe president obama should try looking at steven harper the way he looked at the world's

most famous canadian, justin bieber. dan keesh of the energy institute for energy joins us now along with susan casey-lefkowitz. susan, let me start with you. i know there's a lot of environmental concerns and a lot of them very fair about this pipeline, but it does seem to be that the u.s. and canada aren't quite linking together, tying together, being friendly together at the highest level the way you'd think they would be, considering how crucial they are to each other. >> that's right. thanks so much for having me on the show, erin. basically the u.s. and canada have a real opportunity to be energy partners in the development of clean energy. but instead what we see is, canada is putting a lot of its eggs in the tar sands bassetts, some of the dirtiest oil on earth. and they're looking at how to get the highest price for that tar sands. right now it's selling at a discount in the united states so they're looking abroad.

they're looking at latin america, china, other parts of asia and europe. basically anywhere where they can get the most profit for their tar sands oil. >> dan, i'm wondering, though, what happens if canada goes ahead, say, with that other pipeline, which there are plenty of people in canada who also think of environmental issues, but they invest in the infrastructure that leads them to china where it seems there's a lot more official respect for canada, a country the u.s. takes for granted. once that's put in, we're not going to get 99% of their crude oil anymore. >> that's exactly right, erin. the canadians have been our best energy trading partners. and trading partners, they're our number one trading partner in the world anyway. >> right. >> but with what they consider to be a slap in the face in terms of the keystone pipeline, they have decided to actually expedite the northern gateway pipeline to the coast. and last week when they announced their budget for this year, they announced that they

were going to have streamlining and expediting procedures to make that happen, and so they're going to look to sell their oil wherever. they have got huge amounts of oil, and the question is whether it comes to us or it goes to china or india or other places around the world. >> susan, a question about the pipeline specifically. i understand your issues with the tar sand oil and the damage that it does. obviously that's terrible for canada. the pipeline itself, aren't there ways -- i understand ted turner says he has a lot of problems with the pipeline because the tar sands oil needs chemicals and high pressure to move along the pipeline, so there's a higher chance for rupture. but isn't that something that could get fixed? the people would say, for example, we will build a thicker pipeline? >> you know, there's a lot that we don't know yet about the dangers of transporting raw tar sands in a pipeline. what we do know is it's more likely to leak. once it leaks, it's harder to clean up. rather than trying to find

solutions for that, better is if we look towards cleaner energy solutions. we can really do better than increasing our imports of tar sands. we have a lot of other options for our energy needs. and when you look at keystone excel, this isn't even a pipeline meant for the united states. it's one more pipeline that canada is trying to build in order to export tar sands outonto the world market. >> they would say obviously it's for gulf coast refineries which could serve the united states as well as southern markets. also to your other point, we don't have the ability green energywise right now to replace the amount of oil the u.s. consumes per day and we won't any time soon, even if all of the investment went in that direction. >> that's right. what's interesting here is that this is really an issue not about how much oil the united states is currently consuming or currently getting, but about where the growth is. is the growth going to be in

clean energy or dirty energy. are we going to be moving forward or backwards in terms of our energy needs? and when we look at the damage climate change is doing every day already in the united states in violent storms and floods and droughts and hurricanes, i think the only answer is, we need to be moving forward with clean energy. we don't need the additional tar sands that would come in a new pipeline. >> dan, would you agree with that? are we in a position where we could choose to simply say no to crude oil, whether it comes from tar sands or not? >> no. in fact i disagree with everything she just said. ultimately the oil through that pipeline is no different than any of the other oil that we're getting from canada through pipelines today. and in addition to that, venezuelan oil. and in essence what susan has told you is the real reason behind the opposition to the pipeline. it's all about global warming. and ultimately if the chinese decide to buy that oil from canada, they're going to burn it, so it doesn't matter whether it's burnt here or in china or india or you name it.

it's carbon dioxide and it knows no nation. and the chinese have no intention whatsoever to reduce their use of oil. they're already selling more cars than we do and within a couple of years they'll be at 30 million units per year. >> all right. well, we're going to hit a pause on that but we'll have you both back. obviously it's a crucial issue. everyone let us know what you think. it's very hard when you get 99% of a country's exports when it's oil and you're a country like ours that uses so much to have that cut. let us know what you think about how we should do something about it. "outfront" next, breaking news, the manhunt for the gunman who shot and killed seven people today, three injured. and in political news, a clown, a comedian, a mind reader walked into a bar. it's a real-life situation that cost someone in the obama administration their job today. and could a woman finally break through at the masters?

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we've got breaking news in california tonight. a gunman killed at least seven people and injured three others after a shooting spree on a college campus. the shooting happened at oikos university, a small christian college in oakland. tonight the gunman is in custody, we're told. our dan simon is live on the campus tonight. dan, i know you got there this afternoon. what is happening there? complete shock and lockdown?

>> reporter: well, that's right, erin. investigators are still here at the scene. we can tell you there are reports that the gunman is a former student, perhaps a nursing student. at this point we don't have a motive yet. what we do know is that at about 10:30 a.m. local time the gunman comes into this school and starts shooting indiscriminately at people. we know seven people are dead, three people are wounded. this is described as a small religious institution here in oakland. let me tell you where we are. this is sort of an industrial part of town. we're right near the airport. there's a car dealership here. the university, if you can call it that, that's how they identify themselves. it's a very small campus. that beige building behind me. at this point we know that investigators obviously still here at the scene trying to process evidence. but obviously a huge tragedy, seven people dead, erin. >> and dan, can you -- we're told the gunman is in custody.

do you know anything about him? about whether he was acting alone, about his motive, anything? >> reporter: at this time no motive. but he is described as an asian man in his 40s. one thing that's interesting that we're just learning right now is according to the "san francisco chronicle" he went into a safeway grocery store in the town of alameda, about five miles away from here. went to the customer service desk at that grocery store. told the person who was working there that he just shot some people. then we know that he was arrested a short time later in the parking lot. whether or not that employee alerted police, we don't know. but we know that he was picked up in the parking lot of that supermarket. >> all right, dan simon, thank you very much. reporting live for us. as we get more information and find out more about that shooter, we'll bring it to you. we have another developing story to tell you about. the chief of the general services administration, now, the job of the gsa in government -- you may roll your eyes at this whole concept, but it's a government group supposed to minimize costs for government agencies. well, the chief has resigned amid reports of lavish spending at a training conference in las

vegas. brianna, a pretty incredible report. i know it came after a scathing report from the inspector general on that conference. what did it say? >> reporter: it's pretty amazing. eye-popping, of course, the price tag of really what this -- what is really a training conference that took place at the m resort outside of las vegas for about 300 people, part of the gsa, which part of its job is really to be the landlord for the federal government, because the federal government has thousands of buildings that it owns across the country. so the price tag, over $800,000, erin. and then even more eye-popping than that is what was paid for during this training conference, according to this report. $75,000 to hire a company to do team building exercises, one of them was a bicycle building oject. $6,000 for commemorative coins and $6,000 on basically swag,

canteens, key chains, t-shirts to mark this conference. also some employees were staying in luxury hotel suites, some of them two-story suites that normally go for $2200 per night, although they did get a discount for that. but it was still quite expensive. >> wow, that is -- that's incredible. obviously so you now have at least one person whose lost their job completely, right? >> yeah, martha johnson, the head of gsa has resigned. according to a senior administration official, two other top officials were fired. >> all right, well thank you very much for the headlines. it's pretty shocking. sort of brings you back to the days of the banks, dare i say? our political panel is here with me now.

all right, ryan, how damaging is this in your view for the obama administration? >> oh, it's definitely not damaging for the obama administration. they moved very swiftly. but what i'm going to say -- and you're going to think i'm crazy -- i actually think this was a little silly. the general services administration, if it's run well, could save tens of millions of dollars or much more than that. so you spend a little money on a team-building exercise if that makes you a more effective team, that's fair enough. giving these people autonomy to do their jobs well is really what should matter. not nickel and diming them. if you save tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars if you spend a little money on a nice hotel room, that's okay with me. >> i'm one of these people who thinks the whole rope thing and falling down with your colleagues is just a ridiculous joke no matter who does it. at any time -- and they shouldn't do it then. >> there's just -- come on. this is basic, right. if you're working at the gsa, you should always ask yourself if you work in government, what am i going to say at the inquest? that's a good thing to think about to hire comedians and clowns and mind readers. this is just totally ridiculous and completely indefensible.

>> there's a lot of banks that you run the test would you be okay on the front wage of the wall street journal but they clearly did not do that. melody, what's your take on whether there's any fallout on this? >> i think this goes to a question of good judgment and good judgment obviously was not exercised here. that's why i can assure you that the president was furious and that's why action was taken so swiftly. i've been in rooms with the president talking about issues of the budget and he looks, as he often says, line by line. that's why last year about $17 billion in improper payments, that money was saved. that's because he made it clear to all of us that we have to tighten our belts. he's made some decisions that aren't even popular necessarily with some in his own party because he believes that we have to get those physical fiscal reigns in hand. this does not add up to what the president believes is a priority in terms of the nation's budget and using taxpayer dollars wisely. >> i'm going to move on, although i want viewers to

weigh-in on what ryan said. what are they called when you're supposed to fall down and trust people to catch you? >> trust exercises. >> yeah. turning to the campaign trail today, there was something that happened that was pretty incredible. mitt romney asked a question about mormonism. i want to play it for you before we get the reaction. here it is. >> why don't you give me your question. >> okay. well, in the mormon book it says there were a blackness upon all the children of cane kanaan -- >> i'm sorry, we're just not going to have a discussion about religion in my view. but if you have a question, i'll be happy to answer my question. >> i guess my question is do you believe it's a sin for a white man to marry and procreate with a black woman? >> no, next question. >> sort of felt like that moment with john mccain when a woman said president obama was a muslim and he said no, no, no, ma'am, no, ma'am. >> except in that case it was john mccain defending president obama. there was no one to defend mitt romney from one crack pot making a slur about his religion.

we'll have a conversation about the mormon faith but we can do it without empowering religious bigots who show up at campaign rallies to try to throw a live grenade -- >> well, ryan, it's also -- i forgot who it was, i think it was tom who did an analysis in the new york times once, about the koran versus the bible in terms of which has more hateful lines in it. according to that analysis, it was the bible. my point is all of these books have some pretty hateful things in them. >> i think that's fair to say. and the people who are most deeply skeptical of mormonism tend to be people who are the republican side of the spectrum. so i think as we get into a general election, we're going to hear about this much less than more. >> how will the obama campaign deal with this? i would imagine they don't really want to talk about religion either, but sometimes it becomes something you can't avoid. >> i hope this is not evidence of where we're going on this campaign. people are hurting, the nation has serious issues in front of it.

and i think what mitt romney is saying, is also what president obama would say, let's focus sonter eyes at hand. and as we can talk about issues of health care and unemployment and the policies behind them, the policies of candidate romney, of president obama, i think that's where the nation wants to be focused. >> so the other thing that i noticed today, vis-a-vis mitt romney, barack obama, was the polling and the women polling in particular. okay. 18 points higher among women, that's how much higher we've seen the lead for president obama. 51 to 42 among all registered voters. really you're seeing it in women and particularly women under 50 years of age. how come? >> well, you know, i think this isn't a case of death by a thousand cuts for candidate romney and there are some are self-inflicted, some are party inflicted. we've got the attacks on planned parenthood in congress all over the nation. we have this 19th century view of family planning.

they are viewing the candidate and that helps them shape their opinion about issues of the economy and health care and that's what i think is a problem for mitt romney. >> what i'd add to that is that that two to one margin among women under 50, that isn't a gender gap, that is a chasm, a real crisis for the republican party right now. they need to do a better job of reaching out. it's not just deploying ann romney, who is an enormously effective surrogate, it really points to the problem the republican party has in this front -- in the wake of those debates about contraception. this problem did not exist before these primaries. >> a little problem with the narrative, which is the gender gap between obama and santorum is 15 points, whereas the gap between obama and romney is 18. that's a pretty big difference. that's three points. >> how do you account for that? >> that's a great question.

what i'm saying is the narrative that we're hearing isn't quite right if santorum is doing better with women than mitt romney. this is definitely a big problem. >> but we still have a major gap between president obama and both candidate santorum and romney. >> indeed. but if there's a three-point difference, presumably mitt romney can do better over time than rick santorum if the issue is contraception, given they have strikingly different views. >> what i'm saying is i don't think this is just an issue -- i said contraception, family plans, those form a narrative through which people view a whole range of issues, including and most importantly the economy. >> absolutely. the economy is indeed very important. >> it is. but this just speaks to a larger problem the republican party has. demographics are destiny. if they keep having a gender gap that is a chasm of 30 points with women under 50, struggling with hispanic voters and african-american voters, this becomes a problem for the republican party. >> they're getting smaller and smaller and smaller, rather than with white men as your core base. >> these numbers flip. the president's approval rating -- the president should be doing

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we start this second half of our show with stories we care about where we focus on our own reporting, do the work and find the outfront five. up first a jetblue pilot will be held without bond until at least a court appearance thursday. clayton osbon made a brief court appearance today. he's charged with interfering with a flight crew after an apparent midflight meltdown. court documents show the co-pilot became concerned over osbon's behavior and locked him out of the cockpit. passengers restrained him after he banged the cockpit door. the 49-year-old had been in the hospital since tuesday's incident. number two, china is cracking down on websites, specifically blogs spreading rumors of a possible coup.

at least six people have been detained and more than a dozen sites have been shut down. the rumors have been spreading on blog sites since the disappearance of a one-time rising star who could have been the next leader of the communist party. china will lift the restriction on sites later this week and we will be monitoring that. number three, mali has been hit with sanctions in an attempt to restore constitutional rule. a group of west african nations decided to close the borders and freeze mali's account with the regional bank. an africa expert said the economy will struggle with the closed borders. the expert said mali's gold companies will have a hard time operating, especially with access blocked to key ports in neighboring countries. the united states remains concerned about possible muslim extremists in the north of mali. number four, we've learned as many as one and a half million credit and debit card numbers were compromised last

week at data payments. hackers stole card numbers from the company that processes card transactions. thieves didn't get access to names, addresses or social security numbers. visa says it's scaling back its use of the company, global payments. it's been 242 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? well, the u.s. now has the highest corporate tax rate among developed nations. japan was number one but it cut its rate on april 1st from 39 to 38.01%. that is lower than the combined federal state rate of 39.2 in the united states. race had nothing to do with it. >> we are asking for justice, justice, justice. >> was a recommendation to arrest volunteer neighborhood watchman george zimmerman for manslaughter the night trayvon martin was killed overruled. that is the question being asked by the attorney representing

trayvon martin's family, in a letter. police chief bill lee and florida state attorney bill wolfinger decided not to charge 28-year-old george zimmerman despite a recommendation from the homicide investigator on the case. this comes as surveillance video of zimmerman in custody the night of the shooting was enhanced by abc news and a company called forensic protection. in the video, a gash or mark on the back of zimmerman's head appears to back his claim that he was attacked by 17-year-old trayvon martin. david mattingly is working the story for us tonight and he is outfront. david, good to see you. the family says they have evidence of this meeting. what was the state attorney's response? >> reporter: well, we heard some very strong language, the strongest we've heard from any official coming from the state attorney norm wolfinger. he wrote i am outraged by the outright lies contained in the letter by benjamin crump. i encourage the justice department to investigate and document that no such meeting or communication occurred. he goes on to describe it as

irresponsible rhetoric and another falsehood. so again, the strongest language that we've heard from any public official used in this case being directed right now at benjamin crump, the representative for the family of trayvon martin. >> as you're speaking, we're seeing the video which we first saw last week of george zimmerman going into police custody after, apparently, he had received medical attention. now obviously the zoom-in shows that there was a gash on the back of his head. some people say look, he's walking fine, he certainly does not look like a guy who almost was just injured to the point of death. so can we tell anything definitively from the video? >> reporter: we can definitively tell you that this has become somewhat of a rorschach test. they look at the mark on the back of his head. some see it as he was telling the truth that he was attacked by trayvon martin and injured in that fight. others look at it and see just a mark and say there's no evidence here that he was telling the truth. but we know that he did tell

police that night what had happened. this mark, if you were inclined to believe that that was evidence that he was in a fight, would back up that claim. we had someone at cnn also enhance that video to look at that mark. we were able to punch up the definition in the video. again, this was very poor quality video we were working with from the surveillance camera, able to punch up the definition and able to punch up the contrast. all we can say is that we see a mark. we don't see any color there that would indicate if this is an actual wound. so at this point that was a very long explanation to tell you we just don't know. >> certainly you're right, it's become the real test as people as they see it. the evidence continues to be scrutinized as evidenced by the fact that everyone has watched that video again and again and again. but the question we all have is are we any closer to learning what happened the night trayvon martin was killed? tom owen is an expert in biometric voice analysis, who has been working on identifying the source of the screams for

help, which can be heard in the background of the 911 calls. what he did was stream together those screams, blocked out other sound and produced this audio clip. >> help. help me. help. help. help. help. help. >> then he compared that audio on a computer to george zimmerman's voice from his 911 call. >> hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there's a real suspicious guy. the best address i can give you is 111 -- >> the result, owen says the calls for help are not george zimmerman. he's "outfront" with us to explain why. good to see you, sir. george zimmerman told police it was he calling for help. how can you tell that it wasn't? what's the technology? >> well, basically it's a biometric system which is able

to delineate two different voices. out of context and even out of the same language, if need be. and that's a new technology. that's not the old technology of voice identification as it's been practiced for 70 years. it's the same technology used by the cia, the nsa and the fbi to follow terrorists and al qaeda members and so forth by following their voices. >> so, tom, obviously some of where you're getting this audio is neighbors who were seeing what was happening and called, so it's not a phone that was right by where the scuffle was taking place and there could have been background noise. so how good is the audio source? is it good enough that you can say for sure or not? >> yeah, the audio sources are pretty good. it's a rather high signal-to-noise ratio in the zimmerman tape and the 14 db signal to noise ratio -- that i refer to as the screen tape. and that's adequate to make a comparison.

>> so on a percentage basis are you sure it was zimmerman or mostly sure or what? >> well, i feel confident within a reasonable degree of scientific certainty that it's not zimmerman's voice. >> okay. so stress causes fear -- stress can cause the voice to change. obviously as we heard from the screams, very different from the other call where he was incredibly calm. how do you tie those two together technologically. how can you tell when a voice which is calm, becomes a voice which is terrified? >> well, a voice that's terrified, as you put it, raises in pitch. and pitch -- the tracking of pitch is one of the algorithms we use in addition to spectograms which measures the frequency of the voices the time of the voice and the amplitude of the voice. think about frankie valley and the four seasons. when he sings tenor, you can recognize him. when he sings falsetto, you can

recognize him. he's making the same spectograms, but one is at a higher pitch. >> so you're saying you're sure that it was not george zimmerman calling for help. are you sure that it was trayvon martin? i mean i know the family hasn't allowed you yet to have access to his voice in a regular setting. so are you able that say that it was him? >> no, i haven't made that statement whatsoever. i can't -- i have nothing to compare with, so i can't say that it's trayvon martin. >> and are you -- do you plan on testing it or asking the family to test it, or no? >> yes, i am. i'm going to see them shortly. >> you are. and so you're going to have a conversation about it. have you talked to them about it at all or you have no idea which way they're leaning? >> that's all i'm going to say right now. >> all right. >> on that matter. >> okay. well, hopefully if you do move forward with that, we'll get a

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whether george zimmerman is ever charged criminally for the shooting death of 17-year-old trayvon martin remains to be seen. a grand jury is scheduled to meet next week. there is no indication of an arrest tonight. in the end it may be the homeowners of the retreat at twin lakes who pay the price to the death of trayvon martin. the homeowners association of this community had proudly announced the appointment of george zimmerman as the, quote, captain of their neighborhood watch in their community news letter last fall and it may come back to haunt them. paul callan is a former prosecutor and civil trial attorney an he's outfront. explain why this is so important regardless of what actually happens to george zimmerman, charged with first degree murder, manslaughter, whatever it might be. >> very, very important because even if he's found not guilty or not charged with this crime, there could be a civil lawsuit based on a lower standard of proof, not beyond a reasonable doubt, against the homeowners association.

they're going to say, hey, the homeowners association allowed him to patrol with a gun in hand. maybe there will be a claim from martin's family that they didn't adequately train george zimmerman. there would be thoughts of theorys that could create a negligence theory against the homeowners association. >> and how much money could we be talking about here? >> well in, a situation like this, you could be talking about over a million dollars easily in a case like this. you have the death of a young 17-year-old man who, you know, undoubtedly suffered terribly before he died, was in fear of death. a jury could award a lot of money. that money would have to be paid by the homeowners association that put together and employed the security force that george zimmerman was captain of. >> now, even if they didn't necessarily pay them, i understand some may have been paid, some may have been, you know, volunteer. >> volunteers, yes. >> but still if you name the person as your captain and give them that responsibility, it doesn't matter, i would imagine, whether they were paid or not by the homeowners association? >> no, it doesn't, you don't have an obligation to provide

security. but once you assume that responsibility and you create an organization, you have to do it in the right way. it has to be done properly. people have to be trained properly. and the real thing i'd like to know is, did they know he was carrying a gun? because most of these homeowners associations and these neighborhood watch programs do not allow people to carry guns for precisely the situation that developed here. >> how common is it, where someone -- obviously, if there's a guilty verdict in the criminal case, you're going to get guilty in the civil case, correct? >> absolutely. >> but because the burden of proof is lower, it could be like an o.j. simpson story, you don't get the guilty in the criminal but you could get it in the civil. how common is that? >> it's not that common, but there are certain cases that people become so emotional about. i had two attorneys in my law firm today, i thought they were going to get into a fistfight about this very case. passions are so high. on one side people think zimmerman acted properly. on the other people think that it was, you know, a terrible

misuse of force and that zimmerman should be arrested. feelings are very, very high on both sides. in that kind of case, you might get an award from a civil jury even if no arrest is made. >> paul callan, thank you. >> nice being with you. now to our outer circle, where we with reach out to our sources around the world. we begin in pakistan, where a judge has sentenced several of osama bin ladin's family members to 45 days under house arrest for living in the country illegalpyp i asked what will happen to osama bin ladin's wives after they serve their time? >> reporter: erin, yemen has made it clear it will take back one of bin laden's yemeni wives but saudi arabia has not given that many welcoming noises yet. within two weeks they will be deported as pakistan tries to flush out these remaining traces of bin laden's time hiding out in what appears now to be at least four of its major cities. one of the wives' testimony suggesting that he had been there for about a decade, two

cities in the north, one of which he fathered two children and then where the navy s.e.a.l.s caught up with him. and he fathered two further children. even though pakistan is expelling these women, has torn down the house where he hid, these questions remain as to how it was it possible the world's most wanted man hid inside pakistan undetected for nearly ten years? erin. >> thanks, nick. now to syria where rebels will soon get their first international assistance, and this is very interesting. it's in the form of cash from some gulf nations. for its part, the united states has promised specialized communications equipment. ben wedeman is following the story from beirut. i asked him how much money cash rebels could expect to receive. >> reporter: erin, whatever the snc receives from the united states, it's likely to be just a drop in the bucket compared to what they really need. the u.s. is doubling its contribution to the syrian opposition to $12 million. the u.k. is given $800,000.

but it's mostly in the form of nonlethal aid, basically medical equipment and communications. the snc for its part wants money to pay the salaries to the fighters of the free syrian army and to lure those still with the regime into switching sides. and that could cost as much as a million dollars a day. they're much more likely to get the kind of money they want from oil-rich conservative states like saudi arabia and qatar and there's no saying what strings might be attached. erin. >> that might say it all. now to the viral video about ugandan war lord joseph kony. kony 2012 racked up more than a a hundred million views in less than a week in march. now the group behind the video says they have a follow-up video coming. i asked what might come in the sequel. >> erin, the release of kony 2012, the sequel is absolutely

aimed at silencing the initial video's critics. there are those who say that invisible children simplified joseph kony and the lord's resistance army. we understand that this version is aimed at an international audience. it will have more information about the group and its leader and it will also include more voices from the central african republic and democratic republic of congo where the lra are believed to have subsequently moved. so it does sound like it will be a more accurate, more updated version, but i think the work that invisible children set out to achieve initially has already been achieved with african countries actually committing more troops to search for one of the world's most notorious war lords, erin. candy, cookies and cereal. which single family in america is pushing sugar prices up in this country? what does golf's greatest event have to do with how much women are paid?

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this week the master's golf tournament kicks off in augusta, georgia. the announcers' voices seem almost muted. they're in awe of the tradition. there's nothing like the masters. members get jackets, too, but there are only 300 of them and they're there by invitation only. as a result, the club has been slow to admit members that don't look like other members. the first black member was not invited until 1990 and women still can't join. this year, that could change. jenny rometty is the new ceo of american icon ibm. she got that job the right way by hard work, dedication and sacrifice. her former boss said it best when he said, jenny got it because she deserved it. it has zero to do with progressive social policies. this puts augusta national in an awkward position because ibm is one of the three biggest sponsors of the masters and the

past four ceos of ibm have been given a green jacket and membership too. i'll bet they'll do the right thing for her too. i hope she cut graciously let them off the hook and say i don't want it. as a modern woman i bet she'll put it on for the photos and take it off because it is bulky. and she wants to look nice and be the ceo of ibm. when the tournament is over, i heap hope this moment becomes a symbol, not just of something augusta national should have done ages ago, but something important for all women in america. that's the pay gap. today we found out the most financially savvy women in america have enclosed it. a study found that female chief financial officers are paid 16% less than men. they're still among the wealthiest of americans, but men of the same accomplishment make 1.5. if the most educated, ambitious, and successful women in america can't close the pay gap we have a big problem. so here's hoping jenny rometty gets her jacket, and we all start fighting for equality when it's earned