let's get straight to the news. we begin with stand your ground in the spotlight. right now florida governor rick scott is filling out a task force that will rethink the self-defense statute as we all came to know when george zimmerman killed trayvon martin in february. in 2005 florida led the way in giving citizens the right to use deadly force against threats they perceive not just in their homes, but almost anywhere. for his part, zimmerman is due back in court tomorrow for a bond hearing. >> and the oldest and most traveled space shuttle welcomed this hour at the museum where it will live out its days. more than 13 months after its final mission "discovery" on public display in a hangar near dulles airport in virginia. it's part of the national air and space museum, home to that stuff that won't fit in the building you've probably visited on the mall in d.c. "discovery" flew into dulles on tuesday and its sister shuttle

"endevour" was bound for los angeles and "atlantis" kennedy space center in florida. we're following live pictures this morning. after 38 seasons at the university of tennessee, it's about two and a half hours until the end of an era. pat summitt is stepping aside as the head coach of tennessee's women's basketball team. summitt will now take the title of head coach ameritus. the is expected to make an announcement at 1:30. this comes after a year after summitt was diagnosed with early onset sal ziemers. we now know a body found in california on tuesday is that of the missing wife of a deployed marine. investigators discovered 22-year-old brittany kilgore's body in a rural area near san diego. kilgore, who had recently filed for divorce was last seen alive friday night when she left her apartment for a date with a 45-year-old marine staff sergeant. that marine and a 25-year-old

woman are in custody in connection with kilgore's death. her husband left for the states on emergency leave when he heard of his wife's disappearance. sdwloo also this hour, washington marks holocaust remembrance day. honoring the millions of victims of nazi persecution and death camps in world war ii. this day is the anniversary of the warsaw ghetto uprising. the theme of this year's observance, stories of rescue. in baghdad, a series of explosions killed at least 31 people today and more than 50 wounded. shiite areas were among the targets. in other attacks, two car bombs in kirkuk killed four people and wounded 23. according to reuters, this was iraq's bloodiest day since march 20th when more than 50 people were killed in a series of blasts. north korea failed and south korea has apparently succeeded. the south defense ministry says it now has a cruise missile that can hit anywhere in the north.

this comes a day after north korea said it was prepared to retaliate in the aftermath over international criticism over the failed rocket launch last week. the united states says that the north's failed test was an attempt to launch a long-range missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. oklahoma city pausing to remember the bombing heard around the world. >> it was a day of unspeakable cowardice and pain. >> that attack on the alfred murrah federal building 17 years ago today killed 168 people including 19 children. joining today's, vents were survivors and rescue workers from the 9/11 attacks in new york. the terror attack was the deadliest in the u.s. prior to 9/11. timothy mcveigh and terry nichols were convicted for that bombing. mcveigh was, cuted in 2001. nichols is serving a life sentence in prison. a new jersey school district is paying the price of billing. the ramsey school district has agreed to pay $4.2 million to

settle a lawsuit. it was filed by sawyer rosenstein, a student who was paralyzed after a bully punched him in the gut in 2006. his family alleges that school officials knew about the bully's violent behavior and failed to protect their son and comply with state law. scientists say the sick fish are turning up in areas hit by the b.p. oil spill in the gulf of mexico. kktv reports some of the fish have large, open sores and strange black streaks. other reports mention fish and shrimp born without eyes and other deformities. scientists say they can't be sure this is related to that 2010 oil spill. experts say they don't believe the fish pose any health risks for people at this point. and the oregon man who stripped naked at portland airport says he did it because he was being harassed. john brennan felt humiliated by the way the tsa was screening him and he says he decided to prove that he was really not carrying a bomb.

>> at the point i found out i tested positive for nitrates which are an explosive i decided the best way to show them i was not carrying a bomb was to take off my clothes. they get to choose when they see us naked in those machines and i just decided i'm going to speed the process up. >> he now faces charges of disorderly conduct and indecent exposure. still no word on a public memorial for pop music icon and entertainer dick clark. he died at the age of 82, seven years after suffering a stroke that all, but ended -- he brought music to living rooms and brought talented performers and superstars. says tony orland oh quote, only god is responsible for making more stars than dick clark. nor da stand your ground law under intense scrutiny after the trayvon martin killing. florida governor rick scott is listening. more on that next, but first, live pictures once again of a

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let me read you the florida statute verbatim, quote. a person not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has the right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to meet force with force, including deadly force. if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. you don't have to be a famous trial lawyer to grasp that, but we've got one anyway. paul cal an joining me from new york. how do laws like this change the equation for prosecutors where one person kills another? >> well, florida's law is especially strange, kyra, because, of course, in every state in the united states you have the right to defend yourself. you can act in self-defense in your home or even outside of your home if you are in fear of death or if you're in fear of serious bodily injury. you can meet force with force.

that's standard, old-fashioned self-defense theory, but what florida did was they added this -- what's called a stand your ground law and as part of the law, they created what's called an immunity hearing and what that says, basically, is that when you're charged with killing somebody, you have the right to a hearing welcome advance of trial in front of a judge and if you assert self-defense the judge has to dismiss the case. in almost every other state that's a jury question as to whether force was appropriate under the circumstances. you have a trial and there's a big fight about it, but florida says, no, we'll let a judge decide that first and only then will there be a jury trial. so they really put self-defense on a pedestal, that it's not on in really, any other state in the united states. >> let's take a look at these laws, and i want to ask you a bit of a broader question here, and we've got some maps so folks

can see exactly where these laws are in place. florida may have been the first, but it certainly isn't alone in having a stand your ground law. we can see that and then even more states, paul, have this so-called castle doctrine. you touched on it, allowing deadly force against threats inside the home, the car and even a workplace. do you think we're becoming a society that shoots first and asks questions later? >> i don't think we've seen a radical change in that, at least in the castle doctrine cases because you have to understand, this castle doctrine which basically means you can defend your home using any necessary force. this is a doctrine that goes back to king henry the eighth in england, and when he went outside into the village and then it was the job of the

king's men to enforce the law. so that's why you had the duty to call the police and retreat, not use deadly, physical force on somebody yourself. so what has happened in the united states since about 2005 when these states started passing stand your ground laws, they said now, you know, you don't have to call the police. you can turn and fight and meet force with force. so we've now seen that law being used in a lot of states in a way that's never been used before, but the real question is -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> do you foresee any of these laws going away? >> i think a lot's going to depend on this trayvon martin/george zimmerman case. this is the first time we've seen a very public display of what happens with these laws. you also have to understand that the florida law is very, very unusual. it has this immunity hearing that a lot of the other states

don't have. a lot of the other states just have a law that says at the time of the jury trial you can tell the jury you acted in self-defense and you don't have this duty to retreat, to run and call the police, but florida has this special immunity hearing, but the florida law is especially strange and it puts self-defense on a higher pedestal than any other that i know of, but everyone will take a second look at stand your ground laws. >> paul callan, thanks very much. >> good to be with you. one at the center of the secret service scandal is talking. what she said next. with the all-new e-trade 360 investing dashboard. e-trade 360 is the world's first investing homepage that shows you where all your investments are and what they're doing with free streaming quotes, news, analysis and even your trade ticket. everything exactly the way you want it, all on one page.

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demands for more answers as washington is rocked by the sex scandal involving the president's secret service. the agency has now booted three members following sorted allegations of secret service agents serviced by prostitutes and being brought back to their rooms in colombia. she spoke to "new york times" reporter william newman. >> one of them was essentially hitting on her and said he wanted to be with her and she told him, that's great, but you have to give me a gift. he said how much is the gift? she says she told him $800 and then a lot of drinking happened, and at some point she and him went back to the hotel. the next morning this woman asked for her payment and the guy says -- he became angry and

he said i was drunk. you can't expect me to pay that, and she insists and he calls her names and gets angry and throws her out of the room. >> apparently, that was just the beginning. let's bring in brianna keilar who is monitoring the latest from the white house. a review board is now being created, right? as separate investigations are under way. how is the white house responding? >> reporter: kyra, at this point the white house hasn't responded to this. don't be surprised if jay carney, the white house press secretary, is asked about this and a number of other details in the briefing at 1:00 eastern hour, but what you have according to sources is that the secret service will soon announce an external review board that's going to be looking at the standards and the ethics of the agency and really try to figure out the question, i think that so many people want an answer to which is is this just a one-time thing or is this something that's a systemic problem with the secret service, kyra? >> one congressman is calling for the director of the secret service mark sullivan to be

replaced. what do you think is going to happen? >> reporter: this is congressman forbes, republican from virginia. so this is one voice, but i think it is also really important that you focus on the fact that there are a lot of other more powerful republicans, powerful chairmen of committees who are standing by mark sullivan at this point. that said, i think what you really have a lot of people doing, democrats and republicans is they're waiting to see what the findings are. the question to be asked and answered is was this a problem that was so systemic that mark sullivan should have known. if a lot of people can reasonably say, you know, he should have known then that may increase the pressure on him and certainly on the -- or that will increase the pressure him perhaps to step aside, but we have to wait and see, kyra. >> do you have any more information on the three agents that are being forced out? >> reporter: two of them are supervisors, as we understand it. one has 26 years of experience in the secret service and when

he was let know that they were moving to fire him he decided to go ahead and retire. the other supervisor has 20 years of experience, sources tell us. he is actually -- he actually, the secret service is moving to fire him and we expect that he will contest that and the third is a relative newcomer to the agency where when he learned that he was going to be fired he decided to resign, kyra. >> and we talked about this going beyond the secret service. i believe the numbers now, as many as ten military personnel from all branches of the armed forces being questioned including five members i see of the army special forces. any word on the military end? will there be a separate investigation there? >> reporter: they are looking into this separately. you can't imagine that they wouldn't reprimand, obviously, on that side as well because you have the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff coming out and saying that he's disappointed. there will be reprimands. we do know some details about what some of these members of

the military did. according to sources, one of them or -- pardon me, some were marines that worked with military working dogs. others worked on explosive disposal team or as an explosive disposal expert. so these are some highly trained certainly members of the military, kyra. >> brianna keilar at the white house for us. thanks so much. it stretches two-thirds the length of a football field and can fly anywhere in the world at a moment's notice. c-5 is one of the u.s. military's largest and most vital planes. an inside look next, but first, you can't get enough of these live pictures. space shuttle "discovery" officially received by the smithsonian. it will be placed on permanent display. it will replace the shuttle "enterprise." all types of festivities going on and we just heard the national anthem sung by denise graves and we are seeing the

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live pictures once again. the space shuttle "discovery" officially being received by the smithsonian. here's a little tidbit for you. since the inaugural flight in 1984 the shuttle has completed more than 30 successful missions surpassing the number of flights made by any other orbiter in nasa's fleet and now you have

participants here, including 14 of "discovery's" 31 commanders, living commanders there up on stage. we're following all the events as the space shuttle "discovery" received by the smithsonian placed on permanent display there in d.c. in just two hours an era will end in women's college basketball. 38 seasons, more than 1,000 wins, a record ncaa championships later, legendary pat summitt is stepping down as head coach of the university of tennessee. they'll make that announcement official at a news conference at 1:30 eastern time. we will take that live. that move is expected, but dreaded. it comes less than a year after summitt revealed she was suffering from early onset alzheimer's. "usa today" christine brennan has covered women's sports for so many years including pat summitt for a number of years. christine, joining us on the

phone. summitt taking title of head coach ameritus. let's talk about what exactly that means in terms of her role now. >> hi, kyra. it's certainly a big change, and for people who are used to seeing pat summitt stalking the side lines and yelling at officials and screaming out instructions to her players and all those fiery roles and the way she looked and the stare and everything about her. that's over and that is incredibly sad. the early onset dementia that she told us about in august, it has taken its toll and she just can't diagram plays. she can't call plays and she can't be the coach anymore. she'll be around in tennessee, in a figurehead role, but in a good way. she'll be around as much as she can be, she'll be in the locker room with the team, but she can't coach the team. it sounds the ameritus role is exactly what it is.

kind of the grand coach being around and helpful when she can. >> christine, if you were to write her story today what would the first paragraph include? >> well, i did do a column of course for "usa today" kyra, and i think it would be frankly, as we're about to celebrate the 40th anniversary of title 9 signed by richard nixon in 19 72. it's fascinating how pat summitt's career and title 9 opening the playing field for women and girls in the country for millions of them. and it's historical space. it's hugely significant to think about the advancement of women and sports. pat summitt is one of those pioneers that has led the way, and it's historically what we should remember about pat summitt. i was listening to interviews about some of her fellow players, christine and they said

she wasn't just such a great court and they didn't just learn how to play ball and how to be a team player, but they, once they graduated and moved on in life they were implementing what they learned from coach in the business world. >> that's correct. and i think the main thing there is that pat summitt is tough. we've seen that, you know? we know how she coached. >> you'd want her in the boardroom. >> that's tough love if we can call them that is exactly what made them successful and made them successful on the basketball court, eight national championships and never missing the ncaa tournament, not one season did they miss the tournament, but it's also what made them successful as people, graduating from tennessee, the name is huge. the success stories in business and coaching, in life. these -- in broadcasting, whatever they're doing, they're great at it because pat summitt never coddled them. she told them life was going to be tough. she trained them for life being

tough and she taught them to win and how to lose and they're better people because of that. christine brennan, always love it when you call in on these stories. thank you. >> you bet. >> more ahead on the cnn "newsroom" straight ahead. ♪ where the sun never goes out ♪ ♪ and the sky is deep and blue ♪ ♪ won't you take me american flight 280 to miami is now ready for boarding. ♪ there with you fly without putting your life on pause. be yourself. nonstop. american airlines. so i wasn't playing much of a role in my own life, but with advair, i'm breathing better so now i can take the lead on a science adventure. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator,

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live pictures of the space shuttle "discovery" that's being officially received by the smithsonian and this is pretty neat. this is what they're doing right now. they're showing the before and after. there are apparently 14 of "discovery's" 31 living commanders on stage. they're telling you about each one of the commanders now and then going back and telling you about them at the point where they were a part of the crew. we'll follow the live pictures throughout the morning. it's the hercules of aircrafts. the c5 galaxy is one of the largest planes in the world and the largest airlifter in the u.s. air force. it can carry a fully equipped military unit anywhere in the world. our reynolds wolf had a chance to tour the jet for this week's travel insider. >> reporter: i'm coming to you from robin's air force base and i want to take a moment to show you something incredible. this is the c5, america's largest military aircraft. right behind me you see the

ladder and it goes up 11 steps and the flight deck on the top, three stories off the ground. inside, it is just amazing. take a look at how this thing is. this point is so huge you can actually transport a plane inside of it or tanks or humvees, to give you more of an idea in the civilian way, it's two-thirds the length of the way. believe it or not there's more than one floor. on this deck, you have plenty of room and this place, this area could be outfitted, and you see 75 service members. no surprise at all that even the flight deck is tremendous. in fact, you can sit six people here comfortably including captain white who runs this aircraft. >> the sheer size, like you said, it has over 100 miles of wiring throughout all of the aircraft and then also the fun fact about the aircraft is that you can fly the wright brothers

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with stem cell treatment. our drew griffin has the story. >> reporter: at 39 years old krifrt offer has no business trying to pitch in the major leagues. in baseball terms, he is a has been, just don't tell him that. >> you go as long as you can. i had a good friend tell me make them tear the ump yoo off of you. you can do whatever you want to do the rest of your life. you can't play baseball forever. >> reporter: his major league jersey collection is evidence that he has tried. >> they're almost all there. >> detroit, they're in order, houston. i went back to detroit. braves, when i got traded to the mets, from the mets i went back to the astros and texas picked me up and within four weeks i was back in the big leagues again and it's been a roller coaster. >> reporter: so many teams hired and fired nitkowski and the path is almost dizzying. he was a fresh-faced rook ney

1995 with the cincinnati reds. then after ten big-league seasons came the final cut in the majors. the washington nationals in 2005. that only sent him looking for other jerseys to wear. >> my japanese jerseys, home and away. i played for three different teams in korea. >> reporter: finally last year the career-ending injury. he was hurt, he says, right here, pitching to high schoolers trying to increase his velocity. he felt a twinge in his pitching shoulder. at 39, married with three kids, it was the moment he should have stopped playing games, moving on like so many others into coaching or perhaps a real job. instead, he took the biggest gamble of his professional career. >> pain again. doing all right so far? >> i'm fine. >> i don't want you to faint on us. >> no. okay. take our magic potion.

>> you have been working out crazy. do you ever lay in bed and think, am i delusional? >> there are times when you question yourself. anything you want to do, you have a passion about it you'll do whatever it takes to do it, and so that's where i'm at. there are times doubt definitely creeps in and i'm saying what am i doing? >> love it. >> super nice guy, but crazy. kyra, these guys, he's been playing ball since he was a boy. he doesn't want to give it up and when he says make them rip the jersey off you. he really means it. the guy has passion for the game. >> okay, passion combined with admiration and interest in another baseball player, right? >> that's right. >> did the stem cell. >> it's a therapy. >> therapy. >> so tell me about colon. >> this started with a guy named bartolo colon who was then a new york yankees sitting on his butt goes to this doctor in florida who gives him a controversial

stem cell treatment and what they do is har jest your own body's stem cells and inject them into your arm. no scientific that this works at all and a season later he comes back and has a phenomenal comeback, and last night throws 38 strikes in a row for the ankles and nitkowski says i can do the same thing, goes down to florida and gets the injections. the problem is we don't know if it work, kyra. >> because there have been so many stories done on this and a lot of stories on how there are a lot of frauds out there. there are doctors saying i can do this. i can save your lives and people go broke doing this. >> in the case of colon, no scientific proof. no scientific proof it works for nitkowski. his agents said all it took for him to get back in the majors is to get his butt off the couch and start working out.

i don't know if it's a placebo effect, maybe. >> still, 38 consecutive -- >> you can be a believer. c.j.nitkowski wanted to bring it back this next season. >> it's pretty fascinating. thanks, drew. stick around because i'll talk to a 49-year-old big league pitcher who just got a historic victory. do you know the story of jamie moyer? well, 11:55 eastern you'll get it so you don't want to miss it. condoleezza rice for vice president? the former secretary of state is now the top pick for many republicans. is she the secret weapon for the romney camp exam? that's fair game next. >> but first, a question for all of you political junkies out there. who was the first u.s. president to receive full-time secret service protection? be the first to tweet me the right answer @kyracnn.

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how math and science kind of makes the world work. in high school, i had a physics teacher by the name of mr. davies. he made physics more than theoretical, he made it real for me. we built a guitar, we did things with electronics and mother boards. that's where the interest in engineering came from. so now, as an engineer, i have a career that speaks to that passion. thank you, mr. davies. before the break i asked who was the first u.s. president to receive full-time secret service

protection? the answer, theodore roosevelt on the assassination of president william mckinley. a shout out to donald of montreal, one of those wo tweeted me the right answer. president obama and mitt romney locked in a dead heat in the battle for the white house. the biggest concern for voters, the economy, and the worse it looks the higher romney's numbers go. so is the gop quietly rooting for a bad economy and is that campaign strategy fair game? cnn contributor maria cardona and republican strategist ana navarro joining me. let's start with you, are republicans purposely bad-mouthing the economy to make them look bad? >> sometimes they are and they need to be very careful with that, because the last thing they need to be seen especially by middle-class families who are really struggling to get by is that they are talking down the economy. i hope that's not the case, but the more that they go out there and bash this president and his economic policies when, in fact, there have been -- there has

been more than 25 straight months of private sector job creation, more than 4.1 million jobs that has been created and if you're one of those people going back to work thanks in part to policies obama has put in place, it is not going to be a good measure for the romney campaign if they are seen as talking down the economy. >> anna? >> i don't think there's any american rooting for a bad economy. the economy is not republican. it's not democrat. the unemployment numbers are not democrat or republican. there's not a different level of mortgage crises for republicans than there are for democrats. we're all in this together. i don't think there is a single american that is rooting for a bad economy, we understand that, but what we're also not going to do and what republicans should not do is pretend that the economy is better than it is and that obama has delivered on the economic promises he made three and a half years ago. that certainly has not happened. there are still one out of five americans that are under water

in their mortgages, and i can tell you that for all of those people that are unemployed and underemployed and have stopped looking for jobs, it is a reality, so no, it shouldn't be talked down, but it also should not be covered up. >> let's talk v.p. there's been a lot of talk about who mitt romney should pick as a running mate and this poll caught our attention this morning. the new cnn/orc poll, condoleezza rice on top of the list, 26% and second, rick santorum. ana, holy cow! talk about two totally different people. what do these two top picks tell us? >> kyra, i suspect that condoleezza rice is looking that the and saying holy cow herself. i think when she left office she said that what she wanted to do was a commissioner of the nfl. so i suspect this is a surprise to her as much as it is to me. >> do you think she'd do it? >> you know, i don't think she

would. i think for someone who has never been in ekt welled office, elected office is very different from appointed office. certainly she's a very qualified woman, she's been a pioneer for african-american women and she brings important foreign policy experience and diversity, but no. i don't think she's interested in it and i don't think she's given us any indication that she's interested in it and, i think it would be risk toe put someone in who has never run for elected office. campaigns can be pretty treachero treacherous, as we've learned. >> what do you think? condoleezza rice? >> i agree with ana in the fact that she certainly would be ready to take on the position. her experience has been trifg. she's got a great background story, and in terms of having a woman on the ticket, it certainly is an area where mitt desperate for help, and that is women voters in america. but i have also heard her say more than once that she's absolutely not interested in this. that it's not something that she's thinking about, and i know

that reporters and the media and everybody sort of take that is with a grain of salt -- >> but you look at the poll, 26%. what does that tell you about what folks are saying that were polled? >> well, i think what it tells you is that they don't seem to think that there are any other vps that would excite them, and i think it's the one thing that the republican field has been suffering from from the very beginning, which is excitement about their own candidates. >> i think it tells you there's a lot of people that respect condoleezza rice. she did a very good job as secretary of state. i also think she represents a wow factor. many people feel that we need a wow factor, and you'd have the first african-american woman. you have somebody coming totally out of left field on this. but i'm a little surprised by those poll results. >> i agree that romney is desperate for a wow factor, but i also think that there could be

a downside because she's so connected to the george bush -- george w. bush administration, and a lot of people still do not remember that administration fondly in terms of the iraq war and the economy. that could be a downside. >> let me ask you both then, ana, what would be your wow factor? >> you know, if we're going to have a first, i'd love to see marco rubio be on the vp ticket. he has said himself he's not interested and he doesn't plan to be on the ticket, but maria, i don't know if you share this, but it would be great to break that glass ceiling for latinos. it would be great to have the first heyhispanic on a national ticket and the sooner the better. >> as a latina i would love to see a latina or latino on the ticket no matter from what party, but, again, marco rubio is another one who has said no time and again. he says he wants to focus on the senate, and other republicans, frankly, have said that they would be afraid that the marco rubio pick would be too similar

to the sarah palin pick in terms of others thinking he's just not ready for this right now, and that's exactly what the mitt romney campaign cannot afford right now. so i think they're probably going to instead of looking for a wow factor, i think that they are going to probably play it safe. >> okay. you want your latina -- >> let me just say that i know sarah palin, and i nomarco rubio very well. and there is a world of difference. let me just leave it at that. >> ana, maria, thanks. how cool is it to be the oldest guy ever to win a major league game? well, i'm going to ask him right after this. i'm talking to rockies pitcher jamie moyer next. do you guys have any crossovers that offer better highway fuel economy than the chevy equinox? no, sorry, sir. we don't. oh, well, that's too bad. [ man ] kyle, is that you? [ laughs ] [ man ] still here, kyle.

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today jamie moyer is 49 years old, 150 days, which i mention only because the night before last at 49 years, 150 days moyer made baseball history. he actually became the oldest pitcher ever to win a major league game leading the colorado rockies to a 5-3 victory over the san diego padres. jamie joins me on the phone now from denver. and speaking for all 40-somethings everywhere, jamie, i have to say you are the man, and, second question, are you sore? >> well, thank you very much, kyra, and, no, i'm not.

it's something i've done for a long time, and your body kind of gets acclimated to it and you just kind of move on. some days i'm a little stiff, but i don't really get sore. >> okay. and i have been dying to ask you this, too. everything i have been reading, you've been called baseball's old man, vintage lefty, aged wonder. how do you take that, jamie? >> well, you know, it is what it is, and, you know, i guess, you know, i am a little bit older than most that play this game. but i'm proud of it, and, you know, i think for a while it started to bother me. when i was a little younger it started to bother me, but at this point i think i've heard every old joke. >> it gets old. >> everything you can equate to the word old. so i kind of laugh at it. >> you know, i was thinking of the movie "for the love of the game" with kevin costner, and my ep and i were talking about this, and, you know, he's standing there on the mound, and he tells himself, cue the

mechanism, and then the crowd goes silent. and i'm curious, is that what it's like out there? is that what you do? >> i'm not really thinking about cueing the mechanism. but, you know, i have an ability when i'm pitching in a lot of cases when i'm really focused, i really feel like i can silence the crowd inside my own head, and i feel like i'm -- the pitcher's mound is kind of like my office, and, you know, and my focus is on throwing the ball to my catcher and getting hitters out consistently. >> you're a father of eight, right? eight kids. >> yes, ma'am. >> so when this happened, jamie, when you broke this record, when you made history, what did your kids say to you? is there something that maybe one of them said that you'll never forget? >> you know, our oldest wasn't there. he was in college. our second guy, hutton, he just said congratulations. i think they all -- they're kind of living it with me, and i

appreciated my wife being there with me as well as my sister. we had a good time. we shared some laughs after the game, and, you know, we try to do everything as a family, and family is important to us. >> jamie, you are being so humble and so low key. there had to have been a moment during that game where you wanted to scream, jump, do something. >> well, actually, it's funny you ask that because was it in the third or fourth inning i got mark kotsay out and it's funny over the course of my career, this guy has handled me pretty well as a hitter. to getting him to hit into a double play, and we're friends away from the field in the off-season, so it's kind of a running joke that, you know, he wears me out pretty well. so when i got him out, i kind of threw my arms up in ex ub reube that i was able to get him out and we both had a chuckle about it. we had two hits off me that

night as well. just for us to win a game and get back on track. we won again last night and we're going on the road here today. we go to milwaukee and pittsburgh on this road trip. we have a young team, and it's an exciting team. hopefully we can get back on track and win a lot more baseball games this year. >> they're keeping you young, that's for sure. final sure. >> they are. >> i know the baseball hall of fame wants a piece of memorabilia. have you decided what you're going to give the museum? >> yeah. they have inquired about my hat and the glove. so i need to break another glove in first, so, yeah, and i'm honored to be able to give the hall of fame some mementos from last evening. >> well, it's pretty awesome. and jamie, you're not doing -- you're doing so much for the game, but you also do so much for your family and also your foundation. thank you so much for joining us. it was a big honor. thanks, jamie. >> all right. thank you for having me on, kyra. >> you bet. thanks for watching. you can continue the conversation with me on twitter eight kyracnn or on facebook.

cnn "newsroom" continues right now with suzanne malveaux. live from cnn headquarters in atlanta, it's 12:00 noon, 9:00 a.m. on the west coast. i'm suzanne malveaux. i want to get you up to speed for this thursday, april 19th. the man charged with second-degree murder in trayvon martin's death will fight for bail tomorrow. george zimmerman will see a new judge at the bond hearing. the original judge has stepped aside because after possible conflict of interest. and as george zimmerman gets closer to trial, florida's stand your ground law also may be on trial. zimmerman's arrest was delayed after he claimed self-defense under that law. florida governor rick scott has tapped his lieutenant governor to lead a task force that's going to examine the state's gun law. three, two, one. now, one, two, three.

>> this is india, and that is a long-range intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying a nuke. it is just a test launch. a big success according to indian officials, but they say the blast off and flight went exactly as planned. the missile reportedly has 3,000 mile range. right now only five countries have these. so what does it mean for us here in the united states? we're going to talk about that in a couple minutes. and you're looking at live pictures now. this is from chantilly, virginia, where the space shuttle "discovery" is getting a warm welcome at the smithsonian. it's the shuttle program's oldest vehicle. it's going to replace the shuttle "enterprise" which now leds heads to new york. astronaut john glen is the featured speaker. next hour pat summitt will hold a news conference on her decision to resign as university of tennessee women's basketball coach. she is stepping down eight months after revealing she's

suffering from early onset alzheimer's. we're going it bring you her remarks live. ted nugent, he's got some explaining to do. secret service agents are going to meet the rock star, the outspoken conservative, in person today. they want to know what did he mean by something he said at an nra gathering. nugent said, quote, these were his words, if barack obama becomes the president in november again, i will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. so that was last weekend. he told a radio interviewer that he is now looking forward to meeting with the secret service. >> yeah, we actually have heard from the skret serviecret servi they have a duty, i salute them and support them, and i'm looking forward to our meeting tomorrow. i'm sure it will be a fine gathering. >> secret service also in the news today for a very different reason, as you know. congress wants to learn more about what happened last week in colombia. members of the president's advance security team were

involved in a dispute with prostitutes in a hotel. heads have already rolled. you have three secret service agents that are out. earlier we talked to a up in reporter who interviewed one of the women in colombia. she said she did business with one of the american agents. >> they sort of knock on the door. she said they were discreet and weren't trying to make a scene but they spent a couple hours trying to coax this guy to open his door and according to her he wouldn't even say a word. and finally she gets fed up and goes to leave, and then runs into a police officer in the hotel. tells him the story, and he goes back with her, and then you have this bizarre scene where you have two colombian police officers now, these two prostitutes, hotel security guy shows up. want to bring in white house correspondent brianna keilar from washington. brianna, what do we know about, first of all, the agents who lost their jobs over the scandal? >> reporter: suzanne, we know

two of them are supervisors, long-time secret service agents. one with 26 years of experience who decided to go ahead and retire when he learned the agency was moving to fire him. another with 20 years of experience that the agency is moving to fire who has not stepped down. and then also a relative newcomer to the agency who decided to go ahead and resign. but among the three, two who have considerable number of years in the agency. >> do we have any new details today about what they have learned about what actually took place? >> reporter: no. we do know that the secret service is expected to announce an external review board to look at some of the standards and ethics and really figure out, suzanne, if this is a one-time thing for if this has been a systemic problem among the agency. >> let's talk about something else, the keystone oil pipeline, a very controversial issue. president obama shot down the permit to build it, but i understand the company is now

trying to get around that. can they do that? what are they actually proposing? >> reporter: well, what the company, transcanada, has done is they've submitted a new route to the state of nebraska. they've gone ahead and done this. it moves the initially proposed route to the east so that it's to the east of the environmentally sensitive sand hills of nebraska, east of this aqua fir that provides a lot of water supply for the state. it was the republican governors objections because of those concerns that president obama cited, suzanne, when he denied the permit in november. so at this point though, the governor of nebraska really appears to be on board with expediting it at least at the state level. it appears nebraska will be moving forward as quickly as possible. >> do we think, brianna, this is going to make this any more likely, that the president is going to approve the proposal, and talk a little bit about whether or not this is before or after with this election. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, i think the time line, the

expectation is it would be after the election. this certainly would, it appears, alleviate some of the president's concerns that he cited when he rejected this initial permit. but what you have going on here, suzanne, is president obama has kept really all of his options open for the keystone pipeline permit coming from canada down into the u.s. and, frankly, by doing that he's ticked off quite a lot of people from environmentalists who don't want the pollution that it will create to democrats up on the hill on both sides of the issue to some parts of labor who want the jobs from this pipeline, to canada that's now looking at other purchasers of oil should this not go through. it seems, suzanne, that really maybe the only contingent that is quite happy with all of this and the sort of, i guess, political opportunity it's presenting are republicans because this is very much become the centerpiece of their criticism of the president's energy policies. we're expecting shortly for jay carney to be doing his briefing. it won't be a surprise if he

gets asked about this and what could be a sign of how difficult this is for the white house in an election year, the white house doesn't answer questions about this generally referring them to the state department, and it's really tough to get the state department on the phone about this. >> all right. thank you very much, brianna. we have some breaking news. this is a story that we're just beginning to learn some of the details. there is an unconscious pilot who is on a plane in the gulf of mexico. want to bring in chad myers. chad, what do we understand -- where is this guy? what kind of plane? is he alone? what do we know? >> we know a single pilot left from louisiana on the way to florida. going to be very careful here. as we know, the people -- the family members, the loved ones of the pilot have not been notified. the plane is fogged over, iced over according to two f-15 jets that have been flying alongside this plane trying to contact the pilot, trying to say, hey, what's going on? at this point in time the pilot is unconscious. he's been circling -- the plane

has been circling on its own over the gulf of mexico for quite some time. we have a graphic. it's called gr-118, guys. we can put that on and show the circle. as it left louisiana and went over toward florida. the circle is on the bottom. almost like a plane circling because the airport is closed. just around and around and around. there you go. the pink circles there, around and around and around. the pilot was doing great on the way to florida and then some place somewhere in the middle of the flight became unconscious. whether the autopilot wasn't on or whatever it was, but the pilot went up to 32,000 feet. it's very high for this plane. it's a twin engine cessna and now it's getting close to the ground, only 11,000 feet. what we're hoping is there might have been an oxygen issue with this airplane and because the plane is still flying and getting below 10,000 feet, the pilot could actually regain consciousness because there's now enough oxygen inside the plane for him to be breathing and get his wits back.

>> do we know if he's alone in the plane? >> he's alone. >> he is alone. >> we confirmed that from where he took off. >> and they still believe there's the possibility he could wake up and land this plane -- >> i believe that. the issue with this plane at this point in time, the this plane only has 10 or 15 minutes at most of fuel left. he's more than 10 or 15 minutes from any airport still being over the gulf of mexico. if he makes up, he's going to have to try to make an emergency water landing. >> fe doesn't wake up, is there any way of rescuing him. you say there's two -- >> there's nothing we can do. there's actually a parachute in some airplanes. eight or ten people can get in this airplane. it's a big plane. it's a half a million dollar airplane. it's a beautiful plane. twin engines, you see about five windows on the side of the plane, and there's nothing that you can do. it's almost like when payne stewart lost conscious because of oxygen.

the plane had to run out of fuel and hope it didn't crash, but when payne stewart's plane came down, it didn't come down gracefully. it came down in a ball. >> is three any way even if he doesn't regain consciousness and the plane goes down in the water he could still survive a water crash? >> absolutely. the plane is probably not upside down. it's been circling around and around and around going down. not in a pinwheel, not a nose dive. around and around. if it continues to do that and does not run out of fuel, it could actually make a water landing on its own. the odds are not good. >> i want to bring in our former colleague and also aviation analyst miles o'brien who is on the phone. >> fantastic. >> miles, great to have you here. >> good to be with you, suzanne and chad. >> what do you know about what's taking place here? >> i'm a little new to the story but a cessna 421 a light twin engine aircraft. the fact it's circling is of interest to me. if the pilot is incapacitated

and the plane is holding altitude, we would presume it would also hold heading, which is what would be the case if you had the autopilot on. the fact that it is in a circle situation and still holding altitude is kind of interesting, so perhaps it's not being controlled by the autopilot right now. it's hard to say. it's possible that you can have the autopilot hold altitude but not heading. unclear, of course, what the case is here. there aren't a lot of options, frankly, for, you know, the f-15s in this case or whatever aircraft are going to be intercepting. it's not like the movies where they hop in the back and climb in the airplane and save the day. generally speaking, these kinds of things tend to happen in situations where for whatever reason there's a loss of pressurization or oxygen, and the pilot becomes incapacitated. at 28,000 feet you don't have an awful lot of useful

consciousness without support of oxygen or being in a pressurized aircraft, and so we've seen this happen before. you know, what comes to mind perhaps most celebrated case is the payne stewart incident several years ago which involved a small business jet where there was some sort of decompression problem. i can't remember the exact details of it now, but the plane flew a good chunk of the country from florida northbound before ultimately it ran out of fuel and crashed. so it's not a very -- i wouldn't say it's a great survivable situation. if a pilot is incapacitated at 28,000 feet and he's alone, there aren't a lot of options for resuscitating him and getting him back flying. >> miles, i don't even know if this is possible, but is there a way you can actually key into the autopilot remotely? is there any way anybody could take over control of the plane,

the autopilot that's on now? >> no. there's no way to do that on a typical plane. i mean, you know, obviously the military has all kinds of craft that it rigs up for remote control capability for target practice and so forth, but in the case of a cessna-421 there's no way to do that. there's no capability. >> miles, i remember you had a cirrus. i don't know if you still do or not. is there a way to do that remotely and operate the parachute? >> it's interesting. i do still own my cirrus. we had an incident with a cirrus not too long ago where a pilot was -- the cirrus is not a pressurized craft, so if you fly above 12,500 feet is the official threshold, pilots are supposed to be on oxygen. there was a pilot in a turbo charged cirrus which allows it to fly higher altitude but with oxygen, and he, in fact, ran out of oxygen, became incapacitated. the plane ultimately crashed, and a lot of us in the cirrus

community were saying, gosh, wouldn't it be nice if there were some sort of, if you will, a deadman stick on that airplane so the parachute would deploy if you became incapacitated. but in this case the cessna 421, there's no parachute for the aircraft as the cirrus has. so that's not even an option. >> all right. we're going to take a quick break. we're going to follow this breaking news story. a plane in danger, a pilot unconscious in his plane over the gulf of mexico. we're going to have more after this break. [ female announcer ] hey, head & shoulders users...

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story, a plane in danger over the gulf of mexico. a pilot who is unconscious. we know there were two fighter jets who were flying along who actually watched and saw the pilot was unconscious. you have some more information about what's happening here. >> when the f-15s pulled up alongside the plane, they found that the windows in the plane were fogged up. they were iced up. it could be from the inside or from the outside. probably from the outside because it was up so high. it was over 32,000 feet. now we just realized that the transresponder is no longer transponding to our digital path so it's gone. they believe the plane has landed. landed is the key word because it was nowhere near land. it was over the water. but the plane is not any long e transponding. >> do we know if the plane has crashed or it could have landed safely and the pilot could be okay still? >> possibly, it would be a water landing.

the f-15s are very close and they will notify the authorities very quickly. >> we don't know what the state of the pilot is but we know the plane is now down. >> the plane is not transponding any longer. that's all i can tell you. power is off, transponder is turned off, many things could do this, but the most likely thing is that it's in the water. >> so at this point it would become a rescue mission. >> correct, we hope and the f-15s know exactly where it is. >> okay. when we get more information, chad, we'll get back to you. oge obviously, a story we hope he's okay but it doesn't sound good. thank you, chad. appreciate it. today americans everywhere, they're remembering the life and legacy of dick clark. ♪ >> mr. luther vandross will be here. >> clark died yesterday after suffering a massive heart attack. he brought music to the masses with his hugely popular show "american band stand" and the show ran for more than 30 years.

>> we presented over 10,000 musical performances on that show and included were practically everybody you ever heard of who ever made a record. >> one of those 10,000 performances, gladys knight and the pips. this is from 1985 and joining us by phone a gladys knight herself, one of my all-time favorites. it's just so wonderful even to talk to you here. tell us a little bit about your own recollections of dick clark. i understand you appeared on "american bandstand" twice? >> yeah. good morning, suzanne. >> good morning. >> it was quite a dream come true for us, you know. we were building our career even during that time even though we had started so many, many years ago, and dick clark and the "american bandstand" was, of course, something we aspired to do, and we finally got that opportunity, and when we got there, i was very impressed how,

if humble is a good word that dick clark was even though he had a number one running show. and after that meeting the first time on "american bandstand" and we did get a chance to come back. our relationship grew, and i came to know him as the man he was. one of the most important things that i think we shared was he came to us when he was getting ready to do the american music awards, and we had gotten to be pretty hot by that time, and i think it was -- we were performing somewhere, and he flew in to talk to us because you've heard people say how meticulous he is about his -- >> right. >> that's how meticulous he was about the things that he produced and the things that he did. and we were nominated at that time for four american music

awards. >> wow. >> and he did not want that show to come off without the artist that was, you know, nominated for four american music awards being there. and somebody saying, well, unfortunately, they're not here tonight. he made arrangements for us to be there, and we were so happy to do it. we did our gig, flew in, and did his and came back and the promoter was very happy to allow us to do that and that was the beginning of our relationship, and he used us in so many, many, many, many things after that as well as being a friend and a confidant and very approachable. that's what i loved about dick. >> and, miss knight, you talk a little bit about it was the '50s or '60s at a time when he really opened the doors to a lot of african-american performers and really put them front stage and bridged in some ways the racial divide during that time. >> absolutely. well, i'm very glad that he was able to see things like that,

and you have to remember that, you know, there was another show that was coming along at that time, you know, called "soul train." >> you and i talked about that when don cornelius passed. that's right. >> yeah. and dick is so observant, not that he ever at any time did not want african-americans on the show, it just wasn't the layout at that time, you know. but he was brave, and he was forthcoming, and he started that progress as far as "american bandstand" was concerned, and we loved it. we loved it. >> we're watching video now of the two of you together, and you look absolutely beautiful and thrilled to be there. i want to ask you a little bit about, you know, "bandstand" was back then, now you are "dancing with the stars." we have been watching, and you did a mean samba. how are you feeling? >> oh, my goodness, i mean, that is so hard!

>> you look good out there. >> i am having the best time. i am. i'm having the best time. and i'm going to use this moment to thank all those people that have kept me on that show because i'm telling you, it's been the boat that has kept me there. so thank you, guys, for loving me like that. >> gladys, we all love you. thank you for joining us and sharing your memories about dick clark. we really appreciate it. >> thank you so much. he was amazing. >> thank you. so what are your favorite dick clark memories? watch me here on cnn for more on the story. tweet me so you can get your thoughts @suzannemalveaux and like me on facebook.com/suzanne. a lot of talk lately about working moms, stay-at-home moms. made us think about our producers on this show team who go home to their kids when they leave here, start a second shift as moms. so we sent a cameraman to see what their day is like. t

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which means we get up pretty early. hello. hi. i am a working mom. i have a 15-month-old, aidan, who keeps me busy. i usually start e-mailing pretty early. it's already like 5:40 and i'm already sending my team out two e-mails. right about now is when i feel the guilt that most moms feel which is dropping their baby off. all day with someone else. bye-bye. the first three months of dropping aidan off down here, i probably cried coming down the street every day. it's a lot to juggle, but i wouldn't trade it. i love it. i enjoy it. i have a great team at work. >> i'm katy baritone. i'm a senior producer for suzanne malveaux and i'm also a mom. it's about 3:00 right now in the afternoon. i have been up since 3:45 this morning.

got to get up early and get ready to go to work, so i don't see carter, my son, until now. i haven't seen him since last night. so this is the best part ever my day. can mama have a hug? oh, thank you. kissy? oh, that's my boy. are you ready to go home and play? >> yeah. >> three it to mama. i got it. in the midst of all this, i still need to be checking in with work. since i last checked, i have gotten 50 e-mails, so we're preparing for the day tomorrow, which is -- >> all gone. >> it's all gone. kind of a day in the life of trying to work and keep this guy happy and fed. >> i'm brenda bush. i have five children. i'm a writer producer at cnn. you would think that by child number five, you would be ready to leave the house, but i remember going to work and feeling so guilty because i was

still nursing her and i just didn't want to leave her, and by the time my work day ended, i was running across the bridge to the parking lot in tears and i was still nursing her so i was crying, i was just a mess, and i thought, i can't do this. >> i couldn't ask for a better mother. i really couldn't. >> i work because i have to work. if i don't work, they don't eat, and they eat a lot. >> i enjoy what i do. i enjoy being a mom. i enjoy being a wife. so it's just a matter of the balance. >> i love these moments. i cherish these moments the best, right, booboo? >> yeah. >> i have five favorites. >> i love those women. they are amazing, amazing women. i admire them so much, what they are able to do to work here and then take it home and be the mothers, the wonderful women and mothers and parents they are. so thank you. what do you think? what is the toughest and most

satisfying thing about being a mom? watch me here on cnn, tweet me so we can get your thoughts and like me on facebook.com/suzannecnn. president obama tells a crowd he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. mitt romney taking it personally. we're going to hear what he said in response. plus, who is on the short list to be romney's running mate. time for the help desk where we get answers to your financial questions. joining me this hour gary is a financial planner and president of objective advice gom. carmen wong ulrich is president of wealth management. thank you for coming in. gary, first question. john in georgia wrote in that he wants to start a college savings plan for his grandson and he wants to know what his options are. >> great. well, first of all, i'd add my son to that list so he can set up two. >> and my daughter. >> you've got a lot of choices. first of all, the simple one is you can is set it up as a gift

to minors. the downside is the child has access to it at either 18 or 21 in most states. >> whether they go to college or not. >> precisely right. the interesting thing about that is the first set of interest dividends and capital gains will be tax-free, close to $1,000. so you can have each and every year have the money grow on a tax-free basis which could be attractive but you don't have control. the other fantastic choice is a 529 college savings plan. now, each state has these 529 plans. the beauty of them is the money grows tax deferred and if it's used for college, that he is no tax on the growth. and some states give you an extra tax incentive to participate. >> and carmen, your question comes from beverly in california. beverly wrote in, we're going through a short sale. how can we prevent our credit score from inl plmploding. >> that may not be preventable, but on your credit report it will be showed as a settled

debt. you didn't foreclosure on the house. you actually got it settled. so that's very important to understand because when it comes to buying a new home or getting a new loan, you're about five years more likely -- two years to get a new home if you short sale, probably five to seven maybe if you walk away. so it looks better on your credit report. your credit risk score will need to recover but the sooner you do, it the sooner it will recover. >> great advice. thank you. if you've got a question you want answered, send us an e-mail to the cnn help desk. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime.

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more about a plane that hit trouble over the gulf of mexico. chad, you have some more details on what is taking place. >> just to wrap this up, about four hours ago a plane left louisiana on the way to florida. at some point in the middle of the flight, the pilot became unconscious. we know that because the plane circles and circled for a couple hours. it's been confirmed by the coast guard that is the plane is in the water. it did crash off the west coast of florida. >> i understand there were two fighter jets that were actually flying observing the pilot. do they have any information in terms of his condition or how he's doing? >> i haven't heard anything about the plane, how it hit the water. if it hit the water gracefully, and that's possible, even without a pilot piloting it, but obviously coast guard on the way to figure this out. the jets were scrambled and they looked at the pilot. they looked at the plane. the plane was iced over. they couldn't see in the windows. they tried to radio the pilot so they knew he was unconscious. >> do they have any idea what

the plane looked like now? >> we don't know. we were watching it minute by minute. we can watch every dot where that plane is, what elevation, what airspeed. it appear that is the plane ran out of fuel almost 20 minutes before it hit the water. so it started to glide slope down and down and down. it was leaving louisiana, here is flight explorer. this is the history of what the plane was doing. this is how the plane was circling around. and it's not doing anything except circles in the middle of the gulf of mexico. a lot like what you would do if your airport is closed for a thunderstorm. you would just sit and waste time literally. well, the pilot was not in control of the airplane at this time. the pilot was incapacitated. this plane was only doing what it could do, whether the pilot was slumped over the controls. the plane spun and spun and spun until it ran out of fuel. >> the pilot was alobnalone. >> that has been confirmed from where the plane took off.

we're being very careful. the loved ones of the pilot have not been notified yet. >> and we still don't know the pilot's condition. >> correct. >> appreciate the update. silver spoons, the back and forth over money, wealth, and the role it's playing in the presidential campaign. today mitt romney fired back at this comment from president obama. >> i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. michelle wasn't. but somebody gave us a chance. >> you're going to hear romney's response in just a minute. we want to bring in republican rachel compose duffy and democratic strategist jamal simmons. let's bring in how romney responded to the president's comments. this is on fox news. >> well, you know, the president is really taking aim at anybody he can find these days.

in fact, in my case i'm certainly not going to apologize for my dad and his success in life. he was born poor. he worked his way to become very successful despite the fact that he didn't have a college degree and one of the things he wanted to do was provide for me and for my brother and sisters. i'm not going to apologize for my dad's success, but i know the president likes to attack fellow americans. he's always looking for a scapego scapegoat, particularly those who have been successful like my dad. i'm not going to rise to that. this is a time for us to solve problems. this is not a time for us to be attacking people. we should be attacking problems. >> rachel, i want to start with you here because i want to understand, do we think that this is really going to be a very important issue for voters? are they going to be paying attention to the life stories, how these two men got to where they are? why is that significant? >> well, i think it matters because we're sort of living in this 99/1% framework or narrative that the democrats have set, and i really -- i

mean, jamal is the communications expert, but i would really encourage mitt romney to talk about all the great -- there's a lot of rich kids that end up being lazy and spoiled, and clearly this guy is a hard-working guy. he learned a really great work ethic from his dad. i think these are all great things he can talk about. nobody should be judged because their parents have money or don't have money. >> jamal, it's not the first time that the president has talked about not having a silver spoon in his mouth. he outlined, laid out his life story in the 2008 campaign pretty clearly that he's from humble means. do we think he's going to amp this argument up here? is there any reason for him to do that now? >> i'm not sure the president was taking after mitt romney and his father. you're down there in atlanta. i did a lot of work in the south and my friends down there would say it's the hit dog that hollers, the stuck pig that

squeals. if you're guilty and you know it clap your hands. i think mitt romney may be feeling a little pressure on this point that the president may not have intended to make. if you go to the second line after the slip we showed, he starts to talk -- the whole point of this is making sure everybody else in america has the same kind of chance he and michelle had and people in that audience had. those the point i think the president is trying to drive home. it isn't just about him and his wife. this is about making sure every american has a chance to do well and we all have to pull together for that. >> let's turn the corner here because this is always the fun game we love to play, the speculation about who is going to be the vp and stephen colbert had a good riff on this. let's watch. >> maybe romney should go with something blander like a headless joseph a. bank mannequin or a rice cake or a heel of white bread. no, they're all too fascinating. damn it. who can mitt romney find who won't overshadow him? wait! that's it! the perfect ticket,

romney/romney's shadow 2012. >> all right. all kidding aside, there are some serious names being tossed around. we have condoleezza rice, rick santorum, florida senator marco rubio, new jersey governor chris christie but the new cnn poll show that is rice on top with 26% followed by santorum and then rubio and christie are tied at 14%. what do you think, raich snel. >> rubio, paul ryan, i think the governor of new mexico is a more interesting and a better choice for the gop than condoleezza rice, no offense to condoleezza. she's wonderful, but, you know, the governor, governor martinez hits a lot of demos. she's a woman, hispanic, and

those are certainly demographics we need to reach out to. >> so we're throwing another name in the race there. jamal, that would be a pretty tough ticket, don't you think? romney/rice? how would obama go against that? >> well, you know, i think, first of all, i think rachel is not wrong with her suggestion of governor martinez. the problem for governor martinez is governor palin. governor martinez is new to the political scene so i think people may have caution about throwing somebody that new on the political stage. condi rice would make an interesting choice, also demographically. the question is what is she like as a politician which none of us really know. it's very different. i used to work for wesley clark. i know how difficult it is to go from being a policy figure or a military figure into the political arena. it can be tough for condi rice. >> we're going to see how this plays out. i love that game. jamal, rachel, great to have you both. >> thank you. the u.n. blasting syria for not sticking to a cease-fire.

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syrian cease-fire is not working. the u.n. says troops and weapons have not been pulled out of towns as the syrian government promised. secretary of state hillary clinton spoke with wolf blitzer and hinted that the assad regime may one day have to answer for its brutal campaign of violence. but her first concern is putting an end to the killing. >> if the assad regime were to say, okay, we agree, we're going to do everything that kofi annan asked us to do, that would be our focus, not some future maybe unlikely outcome in terms of criminal accountability. what i'm interested in is let's stop the violence, let's start the political transition. >> ivan watson is joining us from istanbul in turkey where there are a lot of syrians trying to escape the violence in

their home country. you heard secretary clinton and other top diplomats, they're at this friends of syria meeting in paris talking about what the next move should be. we know that russia says if syria is not involved in this, this is actually going to hurt efforts for peace. what do we know? >> reporter: well, yeah, the russians have come out and basically accused the organizers of these so-called friends of syria's meetings of further destabilizing the situation within syria and also kind of subverting the authority of the u.n. security council, and, of course, these meetings started up because russia was kind of systematically blocking resolutions to put additional pressure on the syrian regime. that's why these governments have come up with this side venue, which has basically become an anti-assad coalition. what's interesting is again and again at these meetings the western governments, the critics of the assad regime, say this is your last chance, president assad, and then they don't

really do anything. they've issued a number of last chances so far. >> so no teeth there in some of those threats. we know they have cald to send more monitors on the ground, but there are already u.n. monitors there. can they do anything to stop the violence? >> reporter: that's right. the u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon, suzanne, he just called for a force of 300 blue helmeted, unarmed military observers to be deployed in syria. right now there is a mission there, but can you believe it's only six people? six guys who have been in place for a couple days this week. they have perhaps the most unenviable job in the world. we've witnessed them going to the southern flash point city, there are videos of them quite literally being mobbed by hundreds if not thousands of demonstrators desperate to get their side of this story out. these are opponents of the assad regime. we've also seen fighting

breaking out, suzanne, at a previous patrol that they tried to do in the syrian capital where you had a panicked stampede when gunshots broke out. >> all right. ivan watson, thank you very much. we appreciate it. a nuclear muscle flex by india puts another super power in arm's reach. we're going to tell you what the missile launch means for american security.

officials in india say they

are one big step closer to joining what they call the icyb m club. i want you to watch this. >> three, two, one. one, two, three. >> it is a long-range missile. india says it can fly 3,000 miles potentially with a nuclear warhead on board. if india puts long-range missiles in the inventory it will join just five other countries with that capability. michael holmes is here to explain that. why was this a significant development? >> it's all about the regional geow po geopolitics. pakistan and india do not get along. china also india sees as a regional threat if you like. the thing with this particular missile, it was launched off india's east coast. took about 20 minutes to reach its destination which was somewhere near indonesia. it can reach beijing, it can reach shanghai. it's a deterrent for china.

that's what india is thinking. look at the range of this thing. it goes nearly to tehran if you want to go in the other direction. it was a very successful launch. >> why would india be concerned with a long-range missile. it looks like it's common enemies are right next door. >> pakistan right next door. it is the china angle and the fact that china has plane at this of these missiles. india would be joining a club that includes china, of course. china, russia, france, the uk, and, of course, the united states as well who have this capability of long-range missiles that could be armed with a warhead, with a nuclear warhead. it's about making china know we've got something we could strike back if we needed to. now, india has a very firm we don't shoot first policy. china, their reaction was interesting. they basically blew it off. chinese state television said it was a historic moment for india.

it shows india has joined the club of countries that has their own ballistic missiles. a lot of indian -- china was basically brushing it off and saying it's fine for them, they can join the club. nobody is particularly worried. >> is there any reason the obama administration should be concerned about this? >> i'm sure they knew it was going to happen before it happened. india is a nuclear power anyway. they have a very firm we won't shoot first policy which has been in place for many, many years. >> all right. michael holmes, good to see you. so you've been sending me your thoughts about the toughest part of being a mom, and there's still time to let us know what you think. watch me here on cnn for more on the story. tweet me so we can get your thoughts @suzannemalveaux and li me on facebook.com/suzannecnn.

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top of the hour. i'm suzanne malveaux. want to get you up to speed. brand new developments just into cnn about the widening secret service scandal. already three agents are leaving, and we are now hearing today more resignations will follow. it is fallout from some alleged misconduct by presidential security staffers.