huntsman, john fugelsang, comic and a regular here and will contain, columnist for the blaze.com. protesters demonstrating in the streets of phoenix yesterday. five other states have similar laws. this supreme court decision could have a national impact. inside the courtroom, hints of support for arizona's law from the justices. antonin scalia said it may be okay for the states to step in if the federal government is not doing its job. quote, what does state sovereignty mean if it does not include the ability to defend your borders? and the law could be upheld if, quote, no significant number of people are detained for a significantly longer period of time, justice stephen breyer said. famously came out as an undocumented worker in a famous

"new york times" op-ed last year. it ai lot of people are saying it looks as though the supreme court is hinting, suggesting at least from the questioning that they're in support of this law. what are you gathering? what is your reaction from yesterday's events? >> i was actually on the steps of the supreme court yesterday. it was quite a scene. what's really staggering here is what's going to happen now. i mean, if the most controversial provisions get upheld, anyone can get stopped for any -- any inkling that the person might be undocumented. how do you know that? i'm undocumented. would you know that i were undocumented? i don't think you could know that just by looking at somebody. and -- >> i want to talk a little bit. you wrote a blog for the huffington post and said sb-1070 has become synonymous with anti-immigrant fervor, with racial profiling, with being brown, with being latino with,

being, quote, the other as a crime in a demographically changing america. the government said no, this is not about profiling. >> i was rather stumped by that. you know, somebody -- i travelled in about -- i've done 60 events in 20 states in ten months, being in alabama, arizona and texas. there's definitely racial profiling going on and people have been stopped. i don't know if you heard about alabama in terms of the law they passed there. it was inspired by the arizona law, which is why everybody is watching what's happening in arizona. what's happening in arizona is really important. >> let's talk about what the liberal justice said. even they seem skeptical here. essentially asked the federal government what's the problem if -- you talked about people being stopped. what's the problem if, quote, all that happens is the person, the policeman makes a phone call. what if the federal statute could conflict with that? this is about stopping somebody for other violations, right? and then from there checking

legal status. >> i mean, this is what it comes down to, right? at the end of the day, the federal government is in charge of immigration, not states. and what we have here is if these provisions come into play, can you imagine the you state of america having, say, 50 different -- 50 different policies for each state when it deals with immigration? >> the states are arguing that the government hasn't done the job. >> right. >> r has selectively -- will cain wants to jump in here. >> while racial profiling might be an emotional aspect on the steps outside the courts, that argument did not have anything to do with what took place inside the court yesterday. racial profiling simply wasn't part of the arguments. what this was about was about preemption and whether or not the federal government has exclusive rights to enforce immigration laws or whether the

states can take part in that. you brought up a patchwork of laws. what's different than how we deal with drug laws or firearm laws? we have a patchwork of laws across every state in this nation. isn't that part of the whole design? >> but that's not what the constitution says. that's not what the constitution says the government's role is when it comes to this issue. and, again, let's get back to the point. two-thirds of americans, poll after poll has shown, right, that they want a crackdown on undocumented immigrants who are criminals but want to provide a path to legalization for people who are the good guys. what's happening with a law like arizona and alabama are the good guys are getting stopped and not just the undocumented people. we're talking about people who are american citizens getting stopped. i'm sure you've heard about the scathing report against sheriff joe arpaio by the justice department last september. >> good morning, jose. this is john fugelsang.

has this law ever inconvenienced a white person and will this law ever inconvenience a white person? >> this law inspired the alabama law and they actually stopped somebody who is a mercedes dealership guy in alabama. yes, it has actually impacted a white person. >> in alabama? >> in alabama. >> jose is right, a mercedes executive, a german national, was stopped and asked for his passport and papers. he didn't have them and spent a night in the county jail. >> this is in an election year. >> these laws have been going on for years. the states have been -- and many states are considering laws because they say the federal government hasn't done their job. going to the supreme court, the supreme court will weigh in on this. >> i'm glad you brought politics up. this will continue to heat up through the general election. romney said at a debate in february that he thought arizona was a model for immigration. i'm wondering what your opinion is for someone like governor romney, who had to veer so far

to the right in the primary months and now is having to come to the middle. is it possible for him to start appealing to these minority groups? does he just need to kind of accept the dream act that rubio is bringing out? what does he need to do to get the trust of these minority groups? >> i have one statistic for you. every 30 seconds an hispanic person in america turns 18 years old and becomes eligible to vote, right? it's highly likely that that person, that american citizen who is eligible to vote has a family member who is undocumented, has an aunt or an unc uncle, or a mother, or a cousin or a brother. what's been staggering about how we politicize immigration is that how we fail to realize that these people, undocuments, illegal people are integrated in every part of society, right? they're not just somebody's -- they're not just over there. they're actually part of our society. >> reporter: that's a conversation, a demographic, emotional and political conversation being had at all

levels, but the legal conversation being had at the supreme court is really interesting. >> it is. >> quite fascinating to watch. jose, good to see you this morning. we'll keep checking in with you as this process continues. >> thank you. let's head to zoraida for the headlines. >> strippers and prostitutes were part of the culture in the secret service. prior to president obama's trip there in march 2011, that source says about a dozen agents and some military personnel got, quote, wasted at a strip club and paid for the v.i.p. area. homeland security secretary janet napolitano who oversees the secret service says this is not typical behavior. >> to your knowledge, is this the first time something like this has happened? >> there was nothing in the record to suggest that this behavior would happen. >> the secret service tells cnn it has no comment. but one source says, quote, the

reaction by our leadership speaks for itself. >> the government's star witn s witness, andrew young is accused of lying about his ex-boss and trying to make money from his downfall. edwards left the courthouse smiling. listen to what he told his daughter. >> sun's out. >> yeah, i know. >> in more ways than one. >> young returns to the stand later this morning for more cross examination. and the parents of 6-year-old arizona girl isabel celis speaking out for the first time, begging for her safe return. >> we are here today to play -- to plea for the safe return of our baby girl, isabel. >> we're looking for you, isa. we love you and we miss you so much. and we will never give up. we will never give up looking

for you. >> isabel was reported missing last saturday morning. tucson police say they scaling back their search, but there is a $30,000 reward offered. if you have information, you are urged to call police. minding your business, new this morning, chrysler announcing it quadrupled its earnings in the first quarter compared to the same period a year ago. they raked in $473 million in the first three months of the year, more than four times the $116 million it brought in just a year ago. and looking at the markets, u.s. stocks poised to open slightly lower this morning after a strong rally yesterday. trading expected to be choppy today as they wrestle between strong earnings reports and stability of the european union. and if you're on the market -- or in the market for a new mortgage, now you can pick one up at costco. >> oh, no. >> the warehouse store is rolling out a full mortgage lending program.

seriously, folks, 10,000 people have taken out home loans with costco. you tweeted this out this morning, christine. i thought no way. >> it's true. i wonder if it's going to be bigger than i need and come with two 25-gallon jars of peanut butter that i won't be able to eat over five years. no, it's costco. and it's interesting because the costco customer has higher than average income. this might be a perfect demographic. thanks, zoraida. >> thank you. just give the kid a ball. grown-up fans beat a little kid to a souvenir, make him cry. is it me? i just want to cry when i see this little guy. i love him. give him the ball. it's our get real. and tareq salahi says this is for real. is it a way to extend his 15 minutes of fame? check out our live blog on our website cnn.com/startingpoint. talk with us on twitter at starting point@cnn.

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kevin powell, whose new book is a collection of essays called barack obama, ronald reagan and the ghost of dr. king in which he writes there is no denying each, at his specific time, has been both a catalyst and a lightning rod for the raw nerves of this rocky but grand experiment we call the american democracy. good morning. >> morning. >> why unite these three for the title? >> you look at the last 40, 45 years in american history, there's no denying that ronald reagan, barack obama and dr. king have been some of the most important figures in terms of inspiring, leading to reactions and all kinds of movements in

this country. dr. king, the civil rights movement, ronald reagan is the leader of the conservative movement and barack obama, what he has represented the last four or five years as a presidential candidate, including that historical election in 2008 and all the racks to him since then. i don't think there are any other figures in my mind that have had the kind of impact they've had on american history. >> tie in ronald reagan for me. some would say i can see barack obama and dr. king and what they've done for the left. tie in ronald reagan for me. >> conservative movement has -- speaking as not a progressive but a liberal. the reagan era really shaped a lot of conversations we're having to this day around immigration, which you just talked about, issues around voter laws around the country. even talk about what's happening withstand your ground law that is tied to george zimmerman and the trayvon martin tragedy. >> the most recent essay, a letter to trayvon martin where

you write of the night he was shot. this is what you said. mr. zimmerman has become your judge, juror and your executioner in a single bound of racist logic. your life, gone. the final waves of magic of barack obama's historic election, gone. myths and lies that mern america had become a post-racial society, gone. >> let me say this, first and foremost, i see us all as sisters and brothers in this country. i believe in this grand experiment, as i said, called the american democracy. we would be lying to ourselves if we did not acknowledge that racism, sexism, homophobia and all kinds of ils still ills still divide our country. >> i think we are having those conversations. >> i think we're yelling at each other, pointing fingers at each other. it's tragic you can go back to the 1850s, 1860s and you saw native whites having beef, quote, unquote, to foreign whites from other places, and

here we are in 2012 still having those conversations about immigration. it shows that we haven't had real conversations about what it is to be an american and who should get to have the american experience. >> some of the comments from the justices, looking at the law, not at the emotional issue of racial profiling and race, but just the law. that could stand. >> it could stand. and i think that it would be tragic. when you talk about the people that are affected by it, i support immigration rights in this country. i think everyone has a right to come to this country. again, except for slavery, it was built on the backs of immigrant people. everyone here -- >> that's the american experience. >> absolutely. >> everyone agrees about that. but everyone in the world would want to come here. there has to be a system. the question is, we have a system that is a legal system that's broken, an illegal system that's broken. >> i agree. >> and there isn't political will to fix it. >> the solution is not to basically -- i agree with jose, who was on this previous piece,

to profile certain types of people. i've been all over this country, probably all 50 states at this point. when you have people who are hardworking folks, whose children were born in this country, paying taxes in this country, and they're saying you don't have a right to be here, there's something fundamentally wrong with that. >> deportations are up with this president. >> that's right. i don't support that. >> we see your complaints about not enforcing the law. we're going to enforce the law. this will be a precursor to that comprehensive immigration. did that comprehensive immigration reform down the road. >> it's good to see you. thank you for writing the book. >> this is number 11 actually. >> right on. >> congratulations. >> dr. king is remembered as a civil rights icon. at the time of his death he was as much a symbol for labor rights and nonviolence. >> that's right. >> how do you think dr. king, honestly, would view president obama in light of the issue of nonviolence and resistance to

militaryism? >> i think he would be opposed to the wars that have been happening and what are we doing about poor people in this country of all backgrounds? ultimately the civil war wasn't about black people but benefit for all people, americans with disabilities. what are we doing to create job opportunities? people are suffering out here, you know. i think he would really, really push that. it was like economic opportunity. afghanistan, i think he would say i support the troops but not these wars. that's what he said about vietnam. >> 22 essays, fascinating book. blogger, poet, activist. "barack obama, ronald reagan and the ghost of dr. king." a dad who wires his son and sends him to school and then catches unbelievable bullying by a teacher on that tape. that father joins us live. and in our "get real" this morning, there is crying in

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now it's time to get real. just give the kid the ball. cameras at last night's yankees/rangers game caught the worst people ever. they caught a ball that a player tossed into the stands. a little kid next to them historical that he didn't get the ball. bawling his little eyes out. the couple totally clueless,

laughing, making out. uggh. snapping pictures with the ball. silver lining came later on when someone with an actual soul tossed the kid a ball and saved the day. now look at the video. did it look like the couple saw the child reaching for the ball and ignored him? >> they heard the screeching child as soon as they took the ball away from him. >> somewhat manipulative to bring your child to a baseball game and use him to try to get a baseball. but the silver line iing -- the silver lining came at the bottom of the ninth when -- who won? guys, who won? >> oh, that's funny. >> texas rangers, best team in baseball. >> rat poison in the closet over there. any of you yankee fans need to put something in his caffeine, there it is. >> these people, it's okay. president bush, if you're watching, and want to work on the legacy, go after these people. you'll be the most popular ex-president in mencht. >> already is very popular in that state. from the white house party crasher to the governor's

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that got two new jersey state troopers suspended, allegedly escorting dozens of really expensive and really fast luxury cars on a dangerous 100-mile-per-hour run to atlantic city last month. former new york giant brandon jacobs was reportedly behind the wheel of one of those cars. the attorney for one of the officers tells us the whole incident is being exaggerated and even suggested to us that the troopers were just doing their jobs. the white house is categorying up for the official start of the campaign season. the president will attend his first official campaign rallies next week in key battleground states of virginia and ohio. and he is bringing a secret weapon with him. first lady michelle obama will be there. what they are calling a credible threat against florida senator marco rubio, floated around as a possible running mate for mitt romney. a patrol car was spotted outside his home in west miami and capital police are providing him

protection as well. in our am house call in what is believed to be the first case of its kind in the united states, a transplanted kidney that was failing was removed from a patient who was still alive and it was given to someone else. the kidney originally went to ray fearing. fearing's sister donated the kidney to her brother. days later, ray's body rejected it. doctors decided to take out and give it to erwin gomez, who says he is starting to regain his strength and is grateful for the fearing family for their generosity. remarkable. burger king is changing its breakfast menu. by 2017, they say all of its eggs and pork will come from chickens and pigs that don't live in cramped cages. wendy's and mcdonald's already have similar policies but only for pig products, not for eggs. on that note, i go back to you, chr christine. >> there you go. sustainable for the animals, but is it necessarily -- eating fast food sustainable for the humans? i'm not sure. thanks so much.

finally over, folks. gop on the verge of officially crowning former governor mitt romney as its nominee for the 2012 election. newt gingrich is dropping out of the race and his spokesperson says he's final ready to endorse mitt romney. rick perry had formerly endorsed newt gingrich and is now coming out and endorsing mitt romney. now at least officially you have gingrich dropping out. >> i don't think he has announced he's announcing. >> after the american people decide for him, he's deciding. >> they announced he was going to reassess. >> not ready to give up that spotlight just yet. give me another week. >> what about the perry flip? >> it's inevitable. who is he going to endorse? watch the endorsements flood in as the inevtability floods in.

>> now that we know the republicans have settled on mitt romney -- i'm sorry, settled for mitt romney. a little dig. >> hasn't come out yet, santorum. >> translating for him. >> he wants to leave the window open to destroy his entire future in the party. perry endorsing romney, these guys hate each other so much they could sing lead for the eagles. what may be, i guess, a new publicity stunt from tareq salahi. >> we'll see. it could be very legit. >> it could be. save the whales, stars of the hit reality show "whale wars" are here. here is one from their playlist "soul meets body." when you have diabetes...

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people say, you're asking these people to risk their lives for whales. how can you do that? >> whoa, whoa, whoa. >> hold on. hold on. hold on. >> help me! somebody help me! >> the possibility is you could die. if you're not accepting those possibilities, then you don't belong here. >> a dramatic scene from last season's "whale wars," popular show on animal planet. a fringe vigilante organization because of those tactics, now they're taking their war to the faroe islands between ice land and scotland, a territory of denmark, trying to stop an ancient tradition called the grind. >> sea shepherds are determined to find the whales before the faroees do. all leads to a potentially violent confrontation in the middle of a hunt. >> paul watson, he can be wild

but we can, too. paul watson is the problem. >> the five-part series, whale wars, viking shores rs begins friday 9:00 pm. peter hammersted and frazier is the captain of one of the ships that they use. we're going to warn viewers what we show is a little gory. it's a little bloody. but explain the grind. that's how you say it, right? is it legal? >> it's legal in the faroe islands but illegally internationally. the faroees ignore the international ban on whaling. >> they beach them basically on sand shales or something? >> that's right. they jab metal hooks into their blow holes and pull them off the beach. >> defendants of like 9th century vikings. >> thousands of years tradition.

>> cultural tradition. how many of these whales are they killing? >> they can kill up to 1,000, 2,000 whales a year. that's what's so important about sea shepherd's work in the faroe islands. we go up to the faroe islands, animal planet documents our efforts and we try to save as many whales as we can from slaughter. >> it averages 800 that are killed and it's sustainable. and the entire number of whales that they have -- these are pilot whales, right? it's a sustainable number. you think that any number of whales being slaughtered like this is too many? >> that's right. they're a threatened species. it's banned to hunt them anywhere else in the world but somehow these people ignore this. >> what are you hoping to accomplish? >> we're hoping to accomplish a complete stop to whaling in the faroe islands. >> really, this is a story for you guys that's more about justice than law? >> well, for us, it's about both. as frazier said, it is legal in the faroes, but internationally it is illegal.

>> legal in the faroes, but internationally it's illegal. the rest of the world says what you're doing is illegal but in faroe they say, no, it's legal. >> in denmark and the european union, it's unlawful to kill and denmark seems to allow the faroe islands to do whatever they want. it's a politically sen actisiti issue. >> distinguish this for me. we have hunting limitations but native americans don't have to abide by those limitations. distinguish this for me from that. they've been hunting whales for thousands of years. it's a cultural tradition they've held on to. is it because they're an endangered species, your opposition i'm talking about? >> yes. it's a threatened species. >> there's another local

fisherman angle i want you to listen to and then we'll get your reaction. >> this isn an animal like a co, chicken or pig. it has a better life than most captured animals. it lives in the wild for 20, 30 years and gets killed in a matter of a few minutes. >> the fisherman say it's like another animal like a cow, pig or chicken. has a great life for 20, 30 years and is killed in a matter of seconds. >> i've seen the grind myself. it takes more than a couple more seconds. i've seen it take several minutes to kill one of these pilot whales. these are not single animals that are being targeted. these are entire pods of pilot whales that are being wiped out. these are mothers. these are calves, entire pods that are getting wiped out. they're not even eating the whale meat. it is so heavy in heavy metal contents that it's actually poisoning the people in the faroes and their chief medical

officer, their equivalent to the surgeon general, recommends that they don't eat the whale meat at all. >> i was reading a list of warnings about eating whale bluber. although i've not had an opportunity or chance or inclination to. if you are of child-bearing years, you shouldn't. if you have other health problems, you shouldn't. a long list of restrictions for actually eating this. i think it comes down to a cultural -- is this a cultural issue for the faroees and they see you guys as outsiders that don't understand? >> or a financial one. >> or a function one. >> they do see us as outsiders to some regard but these pilot whales don't belong to the faroe islands. they belong to the world. they have their own right to exist and migrate past the faroe islands every year. culture and tradition has been used to justify all kinds of cruelty throughout history, subtreatment human of women to all kinds of injustices. >> since this has obviously been going for thousands of years and something that's very important

to them. >> one of the interesting things about this show "whale wars:viking shores" shows both sides to this issue and does introduce the faroees viewpoint on it. we're met with a large degree of -- >> skepticism. >> aggression. >> aggression. >> we've had people throwing things at us. people have threatened to slit my throat. >> is it because their livelihoods and jobs are threatened by your actions? >> by no means. they have very high incomes, benefits and services we have here. they simply want to hang on to this tradition. i should say it's not all faroees for this hunt. >> is it more cultural than financial? do you have people in the faroees who are publicly supporting you? >> there is no really financial aspect to it at all. there is support for what we do in the faroe islands. >> it's simply a custom? >> it is. almost like a coming of age.

once you turn the age of 14, you get to be one of these so-called killing men and wait on shore as these pilot whales are driven up on the beach and be one of the people who helps to sever their spinal cord. >> you said these whales don't blob belong to them and, therefore, this cultural norm should not be accepted. are you opposed to all hunting? >> what we specifically go out to do is oppose marine mammal slaughter. and one of the reasons we're so focused in the faroe islands is this is the single largest mass slaughter of a species in the midatlantic. >> slicing them open on the beach. >> faroe islands. >> it's captivating to watch, the film and how you've put it together. it's a series "whale wars: viking shores." a dad whose son has autism wire taps his son to listen to

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it is 47 minutes past the hour. couple of quick headlines. u.s. marine who bashed president obama on facebook has been d discharged. he called the president a liar and suggested he would not follow some orders. military board said he broke the rules of limiting political conduct. he was given an other than honorable discharge. tsa screeners busted in a bribery and drug screen. four former and current screeners at los angeles international airport are charged with allowing large amounts of cocaine, meth and marijuana to pass through checkpoints in exchange for cash. >> thank you, zoraida. from the white house to the governor's mansion, this time

legally. infamous white house party crasher tareq salahi is running for governor in his home state. is anybody buying it? he joins us now. welcome to the program. we understand you're interested or you say you filed to run for governor of virginia. a lot of people are saying, look, this could be the next step in a long list of publicity-seeking endeavors. the white house party, for example, appearing on the real house wives of d.c., $13 million lawsuit against your soon-to-be ex-wife, who left and took up with a journey rocker. why should the public assume this isn't just another publicity stunt? >> it's not. a lot of people think it might be part of a tv show. it's not. i love virginia. i'm taking it very seriously. i have passion for virginia. i've been living there my whole life. i'm excited about this. currently the virginia attorney general has been making personal attacks against me and i said enough is enough.

>> you mentioned the attorney general. you say you would like to be governor of the state where the attorney general has filed suit against you with regard to your business dealings of your winery. which roadways a lot of legal questions. >> it's really against him. the virginia of ag has been doing these personal attacks against me. he's doing this to grandstand, because he's going to be running for governor. and he's really doing this for all the wrong reasons and, frankly, is wasting taxpayer dollars. i'm going to not only run against him, but i'm taking this very seriously. i'm in it to win it. >> sir, good morning. there are those who would consider it grand standing when you filed the $50 million again your ex-wife. >> soon to be ex-wife. >> i beg your pardon. how do you respond to those allegations when you hear them? >> i filed against the entertainment company because there are a lot of money involved in that from agencies

that owe us significant dollars. you know, there's money that needs to be sorted and distributed and that's part of the divorce. there's a lot of money because of the marriage and because of the divorce that has to be divided now. >> i'll be honest with you. you have a real sloppy personal history here. it's all over the public airwaves. you called your soon to be ex-wife i think a groupie slut or something. not often you see someone running for the highest seat in their state, only 50 of these jobs exist, with sort of that kind of real baggage. >> those were her actions that -- she did what she did. when she started her cheating affair with the founder of journey, that's something she did. i'm reacting to her. >> so you are only known for these things. what makes you qualified to be the governor of a state? >> i have a number of political things that i've been doing in virginia for the last 15 years. i've been appointed by

government gilmore in 2000. i was we appointed by mark warner who was governor at the time and now senator and i was reappointed by tim kaine. i've done things on the republican side and democratic side. i was on steering committee for dnc. >> you would run as a republican this time? >> yes. >> the application that your spokesman sent to cnn list november 6th, 2013 of the election day but the election day is november 5th. are you aware of that attorney? >> there may be a date error. it doesn't get submitted until after january 1st. these type of materials including signatures can't be submitted until january. all we're doing now is exploratory work and a lot of meetings with attorneys and our committees. >> the statement we got from virginia state board of elections regarding your application is nothing has been filed yet.

the candidate -- >> it can't be filed until january. >> so you also have to have 10,000 voters from virginia and a minimum of 400 from each of the 11 congressional districts. will you get all that support? >> no question. we've had several thousand new fans come on our facebook page over the last 12 hours. clearly there's a huge amount of momentum. we have hundreds of messages of support. people who know me prior to my wife know how serious and how much i love virginia and how much i've been involved in virginia community and virginia politics. so those who knew me before i got married and before we did hollywood things and television and tv shows and reality tv, know how serious i am. >> don't you think that has tarnished it? >> absolutely not. >> people think reality tv is garbage. >> i disagree. it's really the opposite. the social media and those people that associated me with television or reality tv, it opens up a whole new audience.

the younger audience is very important in winning this governor race. >> i would argue that one of the biggest issues today for voters is the trust deficit. especially as there is to government institutions. here you are where you recently snuck into a white house dinner and dealing with issues with your winery, i want to know how you are going to prove -- >> here we go. >> we're going back into the white house. do you really think you can sneak into the white house? come on. seriously. that was put to rest a long time ago. matt lauer broke that story almost two years ago and then it just became entertainment. went to "saturday night live" and then david letterman and transiti transitioned. nobody can break into the white house. come on, please. that's impossible. >> how are you going to convince the people of virginia to really trust you? do you have a big vision you feel will appeal to it the people in virginia? >> you know, again, it goes back to who i was and who i am. the real me is back. the real me is what you see what i'm doing and what i have done

in the past. i've done a tremendous amount of policy writing and authoring bills in the general assembly supporting the virginia wine industry. >> you were asked to step down from the tourism industry from the board after that whole white house thing you said isn't really a problem. but you were asked to step down and had to leave that post. >> why bring noise to the virginia tourism authority when it's not necessary. i did the right thing there. now it's time to -- >> i have some questions for you. i want to go back to the point that the reality show didn't tarnish your ability but in fact enhanced it and exposed you to a new perspective voters. would you suggest that mitt romney or maybe even barack obama in his re-election campaign look at a reality show on bravo? >> worse things could happen. >> all right. thank you so much. planning to run for virginia governor. nice to see you this morning. focus on 15 minutes of fame but on all of the years before that. i guess.

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administrators told him his son, who has autism, has been acting out violently in school so he hooked him up with a wiretap and that tape had stunning revelations. >> you go to see any books in the library or just looking at sculptures? >> you are a bastard. >> the school fired an aide but another teacher caught on that tape was transferred to another school. this story is -- i don't know your child. the story is heartbreaking. you must be furious. why did you decide to put the wiretap on him in the first place? >> well, when i started getting reports that my son was hitting his teacher and his aide, i knew something was wrong because my son has always been a nonviolent and gentle and loving child.

i've never seen him hit anyone before. i knew there was something wrong. i tried to work within the system of the school but then i realized it came to a point when i was never going to find out what happened unless i could put myself in that room and the only way to do that was through a digital audio recorder. >> you recorded over seven hours in that original recording. let's play another clip and then talk about that. >> when what are you thinking when you heard that? these are supposed to be trained aides and teachers in the school district and this is the conversation you're hearing. >> the first 15 minutes of the day alone were so disgusting and disturbing the way they yelled

at my son and the inappropriate conversations. it was the unbelievable disrespect they had for those children. they treated them as if they were unfeeling machines who could because of their disabilities could never tell parents about what they were doing in that class. my heart broke. at the same time i realized that this could not be kept a secret. >> there's another clip from that recording. teachers interacting with your son and whether your son could see you. i'll have you explain why this particular interaction is important. >> teachers are laughing about this. this exchange caused your child tomorr torment. explain why. >> i can't listen without being

enraged about what they did. i'm a single parent. my son lives with me most of the times. he has difficuto be reassured. they really just stabbed him with their words. that second clip when that woman felt so comfortable making fun of him and you hear the teacher and aide laugh at him and then he starts to cry uncontrollably, i'm still haunted by that. they felt so comfortable that they could make fun of him and no one would stand up for him. it's just unbelievable. >> i want to bring the panel in. what's interesting here is a child with special needs in the school system. taxpayers pay a great deal of money to make sure those children are getting care so that they can function. they can function at the highest level they can and to hear this is just as a taxpayer, parent,

as a human is heartbreaking. >> it does relate to bullying on the issue of when we entrust our children to institutions for care, we can expect a certain standard of behavior from all of the staff members. good morning. it's jon fugelsang. i thank you for what you've done working for someone who worked in special ed in the past. for those parents watching, can you explain the kind of recording device and microphone you use and how you concealed it on your kid. a lot of people would like to know. >> school administrators are terrified this will be a national craze. >> one of the things that's happened, i've gotten so many e-mails from parents asking me that. it's simpler than you can imagine. you can get a $30 digital audio recorder. it's just -- i have it on me. i brought it with me. it's something this size. you can put it into a child's front pocket and they'll never know it's there. and if you feel that there's something going wrong at your school and your child is unable to tell you, if it's legal in your state, check first.

you know your child better than anyone. if you think there's something wrong and you need to know, then do what you have to do. if it was illegal in new jersey, i still would have done it. >> i know a mother whose child is on this spectrum and says mantra of parents like her is that if you are not there, they don't care. meaning, you have to show up at random times at school. she says you have to do things like this. there are so many wonderful teachers and yesterday we highlighted the teacher of the year. i said the most important job in america is a good teacher in a school. the most dangerous job in america is bad teacher or bad aide who is getting in the way of someone's learning or someone's functioning. i want to read the superintendent of the school district and how they responded ant get your response. this is a personnel matter and there are specifics i cannot address publicly, i want to assure parents that individuals heard on the recording raising their voices and inappropriately addressing children no longer work in the district and have

not since shortly after we received a copy of the recording. you have said the aide was fired but the teacher was merely transferred. have you heard anything else on this matter? has the school sufficiently kept you informed about what happened to those people? >> no, they didn't. literally minutes after i heard -- i read that story on the website, i took a video camera. i made a second video which is on my youtube channel where i called the high school where that teacher was transferred to. i played her voice mail so you heard her voice, which means that statement is incorrect by them. a teacher who you heard laughing at my son and calling him that vicious name, she was not dismissed from the school. she was transferred to the high school. >> that is a teacher now working somewhere else in the district? >> yes. that's what that second video proved it. i wasn't at war with the district. i appreciate that they did fire the first person. i appreciate that they took

action. my fight is the fact that the teacher whose primary responsibility is to protect my son, was the lead bully against him and she didn't lose her job. and she was transferred to that high school, which is why i played that voice mail to prove it that i wasn't a liar as they try to show. she really is there. >> it's difficult to fire a tenured teacher as we know. education action group did a study that shows that it takes up to five years to fire a teacher for an event like this. you think that's why this teacher simply wasn't fired. a big headache for the school district? >> it's very possible. that's why i put that petition out there. i hope if there's a congressman or governor listening to the show today, they'll rise up. there's so much public support for drawing the line in the sand. i'm not against tenure. when there's evidence that a teacher has violated a child physically or emotionally, they should be immediately discharged and teaching certificate torn up

so they can never teach again. teaching is not a right. it's a privilege. when you violate a child in any way, you lose that privilege and that's why we need a strong change to the law. >> i want to you about the public response. you mention this internet campaign you want to make things -- you want to make lawmakers aware of what's happening here. you put a petition on change.org. how has the response been? >> unbelievable. you know, i just checked it before the show. there were more than 100,000 signatures. i never expected this. when i first set it up i was worried that people wouldn't care or think about it. i set 1,000 signatures as a goal. we blew past that in the first few years. there's so much an outpouring of love for my son from people. i want to thank everyone. >> how is he doing? is he still in school? is he having a new aide? are you happy with what's happening? >> i really don't want to comment where he is. he's doing much better. the minute that he was taken

away from these people, he immediately improved and he hasn't lashed out at anyone, which told me even more that it was these people who were tormenting him that the only way he could tell me there was something wrong was by him lashing out. it was his way of communicating say, dad, help me. i'm sorry it took me so long to really understand what happened. >> thank you so much. it's had 2.1 million hits on youtube. clearly your story and what you've done on behalf of your ild trying to get change from a system that wasn't listening, it resonated with parents and with all of us. thank you for joining us. >> i appreciate it. >> time to go to zoraida sambolin for the other big stories of the morning. >> that was ultimate in advocating for your child. new report suggesting that strippers and prostitutes were part of the culture in the secret service. a government subcontractor who worked with the secret service

advance team prior to president obama's trip in march of 2011. about a dozen agents and military personnel got wasted at a strip club and paid extra for the vip area. but homeland security secretary janet napolitano who oversees the secret service says this is not typical behavior. >> to your knowledge is this the first time something like this has happened? >> there was nothing in the record to suggest that this behavior would happen. >> the secret service tells cnn it has no comment but one source says the reaction by our leadership speaks for itself. for the first time the parents of missing arizona 6-year-old are speaking out begging for their daughter's safe return. >> we are here today to plead for a safety return of our baby girl isabel.

>> we're looking for you. we love you. we miss you so much. we will never give up. we will never give up looking for you. >> isabel was reported missing last saturday morning. tucson police say they are scaling back the search for the little girl. if you have information, you are urged to please call police. rupert murdoch on the hot seat for a second day. he's denying accusations he used his media empire to influence british prime ministers over the past few decades. he testified at a hearing yesterday saying i've never asked a prime minister for anything. murdoch's testimony continues today. they called her a sinner and now she's suing. a catholic school teacher in indiana has filed a federal lawsuit against the dioceses claiming she was fired for receiving in vitro fertility treatments. emily claims one official at st. vincent de paul school called her a grave moral sinner and warned it could cause a scandal

for the church if it got out. no response yet from the church. christine? >> thank you so much. ahead on "starting point," killing bin laden one year later "time" magazine with details about the raid and why this raid almost never happened. this is so getting tweeted. a picture of president obama with a totally shocked college student. it's exploded on social media. it's things like that will it help push the president over the top with young voters? this is "rambling man" from abby's playlist. you're watching "starting point." what happens when classroom teachers get the training... ...and support they need? schools flourish and students blossom. that's why programs like...

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it was year ago this coming tuesday that president obama announced that the mastermind behind the 9/11 terror attacks had been killed by u.s. forces. >> tonight i can report to the

american people and to the world that the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda, and a terrorist responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children. >> and now new details emerging. the new issue of "time" magazine reports about bin laden's life and the 38 minutes special ops raid that led to his death. joining us is the magazine's deputy washington bureau chief michael crowley. it's compelling reading. it really is. i tell you that even in the days after his death, we were saying how could we have so many details? why wasn't more secret? there still is a lot to look at. most fascinating how small the circle of people who knew about this was up until the last moments. tell us about that. >> one reason we have a lot of detail is a former government

official now at the harvard kennedy school was allowed access to the white house, cia and pentagon and spent hundreds of hours talking to people and reviewing documents. one of the key points he makes was there was unbelievable secrecy around this operation. they started talking about do this in 2010 and for months only about a half dozen people very senior national security people at the white house knew this plan was in the works. one of the great details he has is when they start to expand the circle and tell more and more people, the point where it comes out is they call to brief congressional leaders. we all know what blabber mouths people are on capitol hill. five minutes the news has gone public. they did good right up until those final moments before the operation goes public. >> the material was so compartmentalized it was excluded from the threat matrix out of fear it would raise flags department of state and defense and other agencies and frankly defense secretary robert gates

and secretary of state hillary clinton weren't part of the circle really until after leon panetta talked to the intelligence communities, is that right? >> that's right. an extremely small circle. a lot of cabinet members didn't know. you had national security staffers in that inside circle. the national security adviser, his deputy, john brennan, obama's top aid for counterterrorism, a few others. so a lot of the big names that people know, the bold face cabinet officials, they were in the dark. one reason for this is when obama was deciding whether to send more troops to afghanistan a couple years ago, a lot of information leaked out and the process was messy and they learned from that. >> james cartwright opposed the raid. they talk about people taking a vote about whether to do it or not. those two didn't want to do it. why? >> also secretary gates and vice president biden and general cartwright all opposed it.

they had different reasons. it wasn't unified. one of the core concerns was if you sent men in, boots on the ground, there was a high possibility that the pakistanis for one thing would discover the mission and you could get into a fight with pakistanis which adds a complicated new wrinkle and that it might be safer to just do it from a distance. drop a huge bomb on the compound. obama decided that he wanted clearer evidence that the mission had succeeded and we had gotten bin laden and didn't want people saying he had gotten away and was living in the mountains and the myth would live on. vice president biden thought they should have taken more time to get greater certainty. >> at some point they thought there was a 40% chance he was there, 60% chance. they knew there was a tall figure. tell us about the intelligence that may or may not have been used. uav that looks like an eagle. testing the water of the town maybe to see if there's dna from the bin laden family there. >> right.

unfortunately the language had to be cryptic. they couldn't confirm what they had done. he writes that in some of the option these consider was testing. testing sewage in the town for genetic markers and then another was this uav. it wasn't an eagle size. it's smaller. the size of a hummingbird. this tiny little flying drone at one point was attacked by an eagle because it seemed to realistic. so they were really using all their most cutting edge capabilities to try to nail in down. still thought it was only 40% on the eve of the operation that it was actually bin laden. >> the electricity was cut off just before the raid. bin laden told his wife to keep the lights off when she woke up startled and could hear something was happening. he said keep the lights off. turns out they didn't have a choice to keep the lights off. >> didn't have much choice. >> all right. really compelling reading. peter bergen reporting on the

conditions and also a report on the operation. good stuff in there. thank you so much. ahead on "starting point," of all of the gin joints and towns in the world he walks into mine. hear from the super excited college student in this picture and whether it will help the president with the youth vote in november. you can check out our blog on cnn.com/startingpoint. i'll tell you what -- when we stop to fill it up. ♪ ♪ [ son ] you realize, it's gotta run out sometime. [ male announcer ] jetta tdi clean diesel. the turbo that gets 42 miles per gallon. that's the power of german engineering. ♪

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from shutting down thousands of offices across the country and allows saturday delivery to continue. the house takes up the issue next. police pepper spraying a cameraman and his camera as he was trying to tape an arrest during a wild student protest. this is montreal. riot police called in as 11,000 students protested tuition hikes. cops declared it an illegal assembly. they arrested more than two dozen people there. christine, back to you. >> a college student sitting in bar with friends normal day in most college tones but then the president of the united states walks in. that's what happened to the university of colorado junior madeleine starkey on tuesday when president obama made an unscheduled stop at the local student hangout in boulder. this photo of madeleine and the president went viral after she posted it on twitter. zoraida talked to madeleine earlier this morning. >> he, like, went around to everyone's table and introducing

himself. i get star struck when i see famous people. i was can i get a picture for you. sure. stand up. we did that and then after that i was, like, you smell good. that was pretty much the whole conversation i had with president obama. >> you told the president that he smells good? >> uh-huh. >> what did he say when you said that? >> he just kind of looked at me awkwardly. thanks. then he moved on. i always knew he was a nice, charismatic guy. he definitely showed that when he was in the place. shaking everyone's hand and taking pictures and signing autographs. he's a wonderful dude. >> she didn't say if she would vote for him or not. that's the whole point of the excursion to drum up support. >> she'll remember what he smelled like in the voting booth. >> her parents may be republicans paying her tuition. nice to know that they are coming up with ideas beyond e-mailing us all 20 times a day. whoever thought of this idea was

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just into cnn, 388,000 jobless claims were filed for the first time last week. that's more than economists were expecting but below 400,000. that's the really important number that shows the labor market is healing. 3 388,000 people lining up for jobless benefits for the first time last week. we had futures lower. we'll see what that means for today. let's look at other big stories happening right now. zoraida has them. good morning. >> the supreme court justices seem to be siding with arizona in the fight over its controversial immigration law. the federal government is arguing that states don't have authority to enforce immigration laws. president obama appointed justice sonia sotomayor says the case is not going well. we talked to jose vargas to get

his opinion on this issue. >> what we have here is if these provisions come into play, can you imagine the united states of america having 50 different policies for each state when it deals with immigration? >> protests against the law are heating up in arizona. nine demonstrators were arrested in phoenix yesterday. the supreme court is expected to make its final decision in the summer. they are expecting that in june actually. horrific testimony just too painful for singer jennifer hudson at her family's murder trial. hudson shut her eyes as a police officers described finding the bloody bodies of her mother, brother and 7-year-old nephew. she walked out of the courtroom to avoid seeing disturbing crime scene videos of the victims. balfour is the estranged husband of hudson's sister accused of killing her family in a

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plane while landing in fierce 60-mile-an-hour winds. take a look at this video. it was recorded in february and just released this week. the plane fishtailed violently as it approached the runway. it was a bumpy landing but we're happy to report everything did turn out okay there. maybe some sick people on board but they are fine. >> whoa. i've been on wobbly plane before but nothing like that. all right. thanks. an issue that's hugely important to millions of young voters and their parents. student loans. the current interest rate on a federally backed student loan for low and middle income students is scheduled to double from 3.4% to 6.8% interest unless congress acts. america's total student debt outstanding is around a trillion dollars compared to outstanding credit card debt about $800 billion. that may explain why both president obama and the

presumptive republican nominee mitt romney agree and are honing in on this issue. >> we can't price the middle class out of a college education. we can't do it. especially when most new jobs in america will require more than a high school dip onloma. >> with the number of college graduates that can't find work or find work well beneath their skill level, i fully support the effort to extend the low interest rate on student loans. >> republican congressman aaron shock of illinois is a supporter of president obama. student loans are something that young voters are talking about and care about and keeping those interest rates low for low and middle income voters is going to mean up to $5,000 over a ten-year course of payback on a loan. this is something that mitt romney and the president agree.

>> absolutely. you saw john boehner spoke yesterday. house republicans agree as well. you'll see action on that extension this month. this issue will not be an issue in terms of whether or not interest rates should go up. christine, the interest rates really are one issue. obviously what you pay on your student loans is an issue. you don't want that to go up. the bigger issue is the cost of college education that's gone up 25%. three-quarters of high school graduates now are saying that college education is unaffordable for them. the big issue is once you get your degree, you can't find a job right now. young people are hit the hardest in this economy. >> you have to pay for it and that's where mitt romney is sort of deviating from the script here. it will cost $6 billion. you have to find a way to pay for it. it is actually taxpayers

subsidizing kids going to college. it's taxpayers that pay to keep the interest rates low. >> taxpayers pay for most public institutions. whether you go to a private institution, you may get a pell grant which is a taxpayer subsidized form of financing a college degree, all public universities receive taxpayer dollars as well. the notion of taxpayers subsidizing education both in elementary and secondary and college is not new. the issue of subsidizing interest rates is something that the congress waded into a few years ago when the democrats controlled congress. they passed a bill that now the rates are expiring. and mitt romney, president obama, all agree that right now we cannot allow these rates to tick up when these young people are struggling to find work in this economy. half of the young people that graduated last august are unemployed or underemployed. half of them still live with parents. that's unacceptable. >> higher tuition that's rising

faster than the cost of anything else. you have borrowing more money because you're borrowing more money because you can't get out of the house. you don't have a job on the other end and you have the government involved in subsidizing loans. >> let me ask the congressman this. the free market has done an amazing job of lowering the prices of everything from cars to phones but as you point out there are these exceptions. the price of a college education has skyrocketed along with home prices and health care. there's a strong correlation to the government subsidizing those products. and then the products prices rise extraneously. you are here today arguing to us that we should subsidize the price of a college education and lament that the price is going up. >> i agree with you that you can look at any commodity that the federal government subsidize does rise at a faster rate than it would in a free market. that said, now is the not the time to pull the rug out from

underneath young people as they struggle to find work. i think when you have an upswing in the economy and young people are having no trouble finding good paying jobs when they get done with college, that's the time you look to move back to a more free market competition based system. right now these young people cannot find work and to basically allow these rates to expire and go up will only exacerbate the problem of these unemployed young people trying to survive. >> two-thirds of the 2010 class has a student loan debt. the debt average is about $25,000. if you can get a job presumably you can pay for that on the other end. there's rules like don't borrow more than you think you will earn your first year out. a lot of students borrow more money than they think they will get back. there was an occupy student debt movement and there are those that are calling for forgiving all of this student debt. it would be kind of a stimulus

for the economy to forgive it all. what do you make of that? >> well, as you rightly point out, there's no free money and so we don't have -- the federal government does not -- we're going to struggle to find the $6 billion necessary to pay for an extension of these subsidized rates for student loans. we don't have the money in the treasury to completely eliminate the debt that students have taken on to get a better way of life. let's keep in mind, young people don't take on this student debt with the notion that they're not going to get employed or they're not going to find a better way of life. we take risks as young people. we go to college. we work hard. we take on debt. why? because we want to get a better paying job and a better way of life. completely eliminating the debt is not the solution. getting an economic policy in place to give these kids an opportunity and a job is the right solution. >> congressman aaron schock, good to see you.

it's the only kind of debt like that you can emass without anyone scrutinize you for your ability to pay it back. it's not a debt. it's an investment. no one has taught on how to manage that investment. it's tough. ahead on "starting point," sexy and you know it. we'll tell you how to get a free ride anywhere. a website hooking up hot people with rich travelers. and wonder woman brings her body and soul to the stage. lynda carter is here to talk about her new gig.

>> think you're hot and you love to travel? have we got a website for you? connect rich people who have nobody to travel with to hot looking young people or just hot looking people. i don't know how old the people are. the founder insists this is not an escort service. >> i am a huge romantic. i love to travel. i figured why not take love and travel and put them together? like any other bars when people meet there, the bar owner is not responsible. what we're trying to do is get people who love to travel, like-minded individuals to meet.

>> in two weeks 18,000 people have signed up. 70% of them in the attractive category. you sign up as either attractive, meaning i'm willing to go for free on a trip with you or generous meaning i'm the sugar daddy or sugar mommy but almost all sugar daddies who need someone hot to travel with. >> they say they take all types. men, women, gays, straights, but you have to be attractive. what about the group that's not wealthy or attractive? >> i had an embarrassing experience in the green room at 6:00 a.m. i was with a gentlemen and one of the assistants came in and told me about this service. i said it's for hot people who want to trade sex for airport food? i didn't realize that guy was standing right next to me. i want to apologize. you're not a pimp at all, sir. good luck on your wholesome venture. >> it's not pimping, it's gold digging. >> there you go. ahead on "starting point," who could forget her as wonder woman.

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>> that's so awesome. you know her as wonder woman. fighting the forces of evil on the tv series that ran from 1975 to 1979. lynda carter is now spinning her singing talent called body and soul this weekend in new york city. ♪ >> she fights crime. she raises happy, well adjusted children and then she comes out with her third album now doing a show. congratulations. welcome to the program. >> i must add that my first album was vinyl. >> you have struck a real cord. when we told people that we were having you on today, i mean, everyone was talking about it. you are the hero for a whole

generation of women including me. this is the kind of thing i would sit up with my little sister and watch and all of us have dressed up as wonder woman for halloween. one of our bookers gave us a picture of her dressing up as wonder woman. there she is. isn't that sweet? and someone i'm not going to say her name but a famous reality show person has dressed up as wonder woman. kim akardashian. that's then and now and i've done it several years in a row. >> it's the goddess within. >> strong, smart, fighting crime. >> i dressed up as wonder woman to get out of the navy. >> my goodness. >> those five years, you have been singing since you were 17 years old. you did those five iconic years that have -- you defined wonder woman but wonder woman you haven't let define you really here. >> i don't think i really tried to avoid it.

i think that people have a tendency to box people any way. so if you are too tall or too young or too pretty or too this and that, whatever it is, or you're a female so it's just another thing. mostly i find that people enjoy talking about if they have history with dressing up as wonder woman or whatever. it was quite a while ago. a long time ago. >> do you ever come on and say don't ask me about wonder woman again? >> well, i could. i could do that. >> do you? do you feel that way? >> no. no. i have tried always because it's usually people that want to talk to me about it. when people are talking to you about it, then it is -- they just want to connect. >> also wonder woman, your tv program, i think was really significant in terms of feminism for young males of my generation who never had a female superhero

before. you allowed moms to get into comics which counts a lot. my question is about your touring. do you find that the greatest thing about that celebrity notoriety of the show got you was allowed you to do this art and sing the way you like to whereas if you didn't have -- >> without a doubt. what fame really does bring you is an ability to get more work. that's truly one of the saving graces of fame because oddly enough we don't really sign up for it. it's not -- until you've been in it, it's hard to understand how intrusive fame can be at times. >> you look at the magazines of the famous people taking their children in front of the cameras and stuff. you stepped back. you wanted to raise your children in private and didn't want to be on the road. >> right. i kept acting but i left music

because it was no place to raise a family. mainly. and also -- occasionally my kids would be in a picture but i said, okay, you have a ten-minute window. you better have it and that's it. okay. but really it was they never had seen a red carpet with me in it. not until "the dukes of hazard" which i did a few years back and my daughter went, geez, mom. >> i know wonder woman was just a character that you played but did she inspire you? did her character inspire you? over the years you have been through a lot in your life and been open and honest about it in your songs. has playing that role given you that courage to speak out more? >> i've always had sort of -- i've always ridden a lot of high horses and have an opinion on everything. i think -- >> tell us some of the high

horses you have ridden. >> about gay rights and women's rights and women's health and, you know, anti-bullying and i've been doing that for years and years and years. and education, reading, and trying to, you know, help the soldiers with these decaying places that they have to live. i just -- give me something to argue about. >> you fought alcohol addiction. you've been sober for 14 years. congratulations. >> thank you. for me it was this genetic component. i didn't even really start drinking until i was in my 20s. and so it was such a powerful genetic component to it that it got me flat. luckily while my kids were still small.genetic component. the voice. it's beautiful. how does it feel to come back to the first love of singing? >> there's nothing better. i think this time around i have

had this band for almost six years and they are all studio musicians mostly out of nashville but the sax player is in the band and he's from new york. they are really jazz players. one from glood, sweat and tears an one from toto and one from musician hall of fame and buddies of mine for many years that i used to work with in l.a. for me the story telling piece of music gives me an opportunity to be all those things and to relay all of the things that i have experienced in my long life and career. >> you were born in arizona, is that right? >> i was. >> arizona girl. everyone thinks i'm from texas. i guess because i am tall. >> we are tall. >> will is from texas.

lynda carter, so nice to meet you. >> thank you for having me on. >> music is beautiful. >> lincoln center tomorrow and friday and saturday nights. >> you got it. "end point" with our panel is next. by continuing to help you do more and focus on the things that matter to you.

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