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his client, charged with second-degree murder in the death of trayvon martin, has raised more than $200,000 online. now, this is a major revelation, because mark o'mara, zimmerman's lawyer, previously told the court that his client was unable to pay his legal expenses. you will remember at his bond hearing the prosecution asked for bail to be set at $1 million. instead, the judge set it at $150,000. to make bail, zimmerman needed to come up with 10% of that, $15,000. just three days ago i asked mr. o'mara about the money zimmerman was raising online. listen to what he said then. >> do you know how much money has been raised by that website he set up? >> i got a note from somebody who seems to have control over one that says there were $700 or $800 in it. i've heard from another there's a couple thousand dollars in one. i don't know who's monitoring them or handling them or if anyone is taking any money out. i don't think so, but just haven't taken that on yet with everything else going on. >> well, today mark o'mara reached out to us saying he now
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has a much different understanding of his client's finances. i spoke to him earlier tonight. >> mark, we spoke earlier this week and you told me that you had conflicting information on how much money had been raised but george zimmerman's website, the account that he set up. you said you had been told anywhere from $700 to $800 to a couple of thousand dollars. you now say it's much more than that. how much money specifically to your knowledge has been raised by george zimmerman and his supporters? >> well, my understanding was there were two accounts. one with about $700 and one with about $2,000 by some friends of his. in talking to george after i was trying to shut down his full internet presence, because of some impersonators and other problems with twitter an facebook, he asked me what to do with his paypal accounts. i asked him what he was talking about. and he said those are the accounts that had the money from the website he had and that there was about $200,000, $204,000 that had come in to date. >> $200,000 to $204,000.
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that's obviously a very significant amount of money. when did you learn that? >> yesterday. >> okay. >> yeah, i was sort of surprised. i think you and i had talked on monday about it and i said about the two that i did know about. when he advised me yesterday after we were closing out all of his internet presence and the paypal accounts is when we found out about it. >> would this have affected 00 bond hearing? because you told the judge basically he was indigent. he got $150,000 bond and only had to pay about 10% of it. would that have made a difference had the judge known that he had $200,000 in paypal accounts? >> it might have. i'm certainly going to disclose it to the court tomorrow. coincidentally, we have a hearing. certainly we would acknowledge that he did not have funds available to him and these were. i'm not certain that he thought
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in some sense that they were available to him because even after the bond was granted, it was the family who was trying to come up with enough money for the bond. and i guess if they thought that they had full, easy access to it, they simply could have used that. but now that i'm aware of it, we're certainly going to deal with it in a much more tran parent way, probably bring in someone like an accountant to assist me in administering it and deal with it very openly. >> do you worry some people will think you misled the court or the court itself might think you tried to mislead him and they'll see how could a defense attorney not know his client's financial situation, that he had $200,000 in paypal account. >> sure. i'll deal with that fallout if it's there. i don't think judge lester will believe i misled him. i told him what i knew at the time which is exactly what i was aware of. as soon as i became aware of more money, we dealt with it more affirmatively. we put it into an account where it is protected and secure. i'm not touching it, nobody is touching it until we figure out how to handle it.
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and we disclosed it to everyone we could, including this program since it was on this program that we had talked about there only being the two websites and paypal accounts that i was aware. >> are you upset george zimmerman didn't disclose this to you earlier? do you feel like he was trying to keep it from you? or what? >> i truly don't think so because it was almost offhand that we discussed -- he said what to do with all the money in the paypal accounts after we closed out his presence. i asked him what he was talking about. he told me the amount. i said, well, that's a significant amount of money, we need to secure that because we need to make sure we administer it properly. and it came right to me. he literally fedexed me the checks. >> you've -- his website is now shut down. will he be soliciting more money from supporters in other ways to your knowledge? >> we certainly intend to open a legal defense fund under my
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purview done the right way, because i've had dozens -- hundreds actually of people wanting to donate. i don't believe that i can request donations at this point. there's a certain process you have to put in place. but i've already had, i think, 30, 40, 50 people just send money and checks to us. we've, of course, logged all of those and have all the money now in that same trust account. >> how much do you think his defense is going to cost? >> well, if we kept track of everything, 500 to $1 million potentially. while that sounds like a lot of money, on my family law cases where i charming an hourly rate, it's $400 an hour. so 1,000 hours is $400,000. i've probably put in 100, 120 hours to date. i haven't kept good track, to be honest with you. but i figure eight or ten hours a day nonstop, including weekends since i've been
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involved. so you can really go through a lot of money on a case like this with the intensity of it. >> mark o'mara, i appreciate you being with us. thank you, mark. >> sure. both sides will be back in court tomorrow morning for a hearing that was scheduled before this new development. joining me is mark geragos and sunny hostin. mark, is this a big deal? i mean he got out a pretty low baun, $150,000, only had to pay 10% of it. the judge was told he was indigent and it turns out he's got $200,000. >> yeah. i applaud mark for coming to you and admitting it or frontloading it, so to speak, before the hearing. however, and i don't know this judge. i know a lot of judges. if they discovered this on cnn as opposed to a filing in their courtroom would have my head on a platter the next day. is it a big deal? yes. i think mark candidly admitted if some squuj is being told i'm indigent and all the family members saying we don't have much money and he's setting a bond at 150 over the
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prosecution's objections and the prosecutor is asking for a million bucks and it turns out this guy has got $200,000 in an account, you know, i know a lot of judges who would remand the guy back into custody immediately. and i'll tell you why. because one of the things is, they want to make sure somebody is not going to flee and that the bond secures. if you've got more money stashed in an account that basically you didn't earn, somebody just gave it to you and you can just pay the bond and be gone, that gives a lot of judges concern. >> it's also interesting to see, sunny, that he didn't apparently tell his own attorney about this money and his family is testifying and his attorney is testifying that he's basically indigent. >> that's right. and for once i think mark and i agree on this. this is a big deal. that's the headline here. bottom line is george zimmerman
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knew. we know that. he allowed his family to testify on his behalf without disclosing to them or perhaps they knew, didn't know, i mean they could have perjured themselves. this is the same family that is tasked with making sure george zimmerman abides by the conditions of his bond. so this is the family that is to make sure he meets his curfew. same family that makes sure there's no firearm in the home. >> do you think this is why zimmerman's father didn't show up? do you think there's a reason? do you think other people knew about this? >> i think it's very suspicious at the very least that robert zimmerman, his brother, who we've seen on all of the shows, wasn't available even by phone. when shelly zimmerman was asked by the prosecutor whether or not she knew about how much money was on the website, she said she didn't know, but her brother-in-law knew, but he was conveniently unavailable. that smacks to me of something that is just in my view disingenuous. >> mark, if you're the attorney in this case and your client has kept this from you, what does that make you feel about your client? >> well, it wouldn't be the
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first time a client has lied to me about how much assets they have in terms of paying a fee. and in this case i think mark had indicated that at least initially he was going to do this pro bono. the problem with this is that you're going to have a prosecutor just like what sunny did going to just spear you and gore you in the courtroom tomorrow. >> that's right. >> and it's not going to be a pretty sight. and that is exactly what you hate if you're the defense lawyer. you've convinced this judge to let this guy out. you're trying to be on the side of the angels. the next thing you know, it turns out there's 200 grand there. and i still think that this judge is not going to be happy. it may just be my experience. maybe people on the west coast have a different judiciary. most judges i know if they turn on cnn and find this out as opposed to having a filing in their courtroom, they are not
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going to be happy campers. >> mark, you say fund-raising for a legal defense is done right, george zimmerman could make millions of dollars. a lot of people will hear that and be upset by that. how does that work? how is that possible? >> i will tell you that in the right hands, this fund-raising appeal, it would not surprise me in the least if he would raise two to $5 million. there is a contingent -- or a constituency out there that would think nothing of writing checks anywhere from $25,000 to $50,000 for the defense. and part of the reason for that is that there are constituencies that want to use george zimmerman and this whole issue by proxy and there's no better way to do it than to have something like this, which is a hot button issue, which leads the nightly news for weeks at a time and potentially when you go to trial, if you go to trial past an immune tee hearing. so in the right hands, what i mean is somebody who's sophisticated with an internet presence or direct mail presence, it would not surprise me in the least that you could raise seven figures. >> tomorrow at this hearing besides this money issue,
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there's also the issue of a criminal complaint, which the judge has ordered to be unsealed. >> sure. >> what does that mean? what's the significance of that? >> we're going to learn more about the case, no question about it. we're not going to learn the witness names or information but we'll learn what they said so i think that is fairly significant. >> we'll leave it there. sunny hostin, mark geragos, thanks. we'll see what happens in the courtroom tomorrow. we're on facebook, google plus. let us know what you think about this. you can follow me on twitter. i've already been tweeting about this tonight and getting a lot of responses. other news, president obama's biggest fan says mitt romney doesn't have what it takes to lead america in the world. the money thing is that four years ago, the same guy, biden, vice president biden, said the same thing about candidate obama. we'll tell you why the flip-flop and more. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is lawn ranger -- eden prairie, minnesota.
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he accused governor romney of having, quote, a profound misunderstanding of the responsibilities of a president and the commander in chief. >> in my view, the last thing we need is a president who believes that he can subcontract our foreign policy to experts at the state department or for that matter any other department or agency. >> well, here's what he is referring to. governor romney downplaying his lack of foreign policy experience during his last presidential campaign. >> if the answer for leading the country is someone that has a lot of foreign policy experience, we can just go down to the state department and pick up any one of the tens of thousands of people who spent all their life in foreign policy. that's not what the nation needs in a president. >> that's what vice president was talking about today, suggesting governor romney isn't ready to be commander in chief. keeping him honest, during that same campaign when senators biden and senators obama were primary opponents, before biden
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had a similar take on mr. obama. he cited different reasons but had the same bottom line. listen. >> you were asked is he ready. you said i think he can be ready but right now i don't believe he is. the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training. >> i think that i stand by the statement. >> it's not just vice president biden who questioned then senator obama's foreign policy chops. other members of his current cabinet did as well. hillary clinton, remember her campaign ran that famous 3:00 a.m. phone call ad against president obama suggesting he wasn't ready for the job. obama supporters mocked senator clinton saying experience as first lady doesn't prepare you for the white house. president obama later made her secretary of state. with us now is republican strategist and former white house press secretary ari fleischer and hilary rosen. does the vice president have a point? is foreign policy experience important for a candidate or isn't it? very few presidents with some notable exceptions had a lot of foreign policy experience when they took office. >> sure, very few. you would rule out every governor who has ever become president of the united states if that was the only criteria the voters use.
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it's a factor. you have to have a credibility threshold. but in this election cycle and that's what it comes down to is foreign policy that cutting and prevalent an issue. it's not. it was in 2004. it was not in 2008 and it certainly doesn't seem the way the world is behaving right now to be that much of an issue in 2012. >> hillary, do you agree with that? there are some democrats who think this is an issue that the white house can run with and make some points with in a landscape where the economy seems to be front and certain, is foreign policy an issue people will cast votes on? >> i think it raises itself in two different ways in this election. first of all, i think we all agree that the domestic economy is the most important issue in this election. but foreign policy comes in in a couple of ways. first of all, we have spent as a country $800 billion in the iraq war. that is money that in so many ways could have been spent here at home on other priorities. those sorts of decisions, whether you have a president who understands the trade-offs that they're making when they lead us into a war we shouldn't be fighting or when they don't, that's the kind of president we have in barack obama. he has those sorts of judgments. people look at that, they
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respect that, they want to know that he's got priorities, for instance, going after osama bin laden. that he's a wise leader when it comes to picking and choosing where we need to be involved in the world. we're no longer in this old-fashioned place where mitt romney and his advisers want to have us be, where our only allies are in western europe and we're facing the soviet threat or czechoslovakia. we have country by country strategies and each one of them requires some strong leadership. an i think that's the issue that president obama is going to be able to run on. but i do agree that short of a crisis between now and november, it's not going to be on the front burner. >> ari, republicans, it's interesting, they have often felt they had an advantage with voters when it comes to foreign policy and national security. do you think that is still true in this election? whether or not it's the issue people will vote on, or do you think the balance of power has shifted a bit? >> i think it's shifted a bit. i think ever since the collapse of the soviet union you have not
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had the same dividing bright lines on foreign policy and defense issues that you did in the old days, so it's become less of an issue. but again, it's that threshold issue. in the case of president obama, of course, the vice president, then senator biden as you pointed out, anderson, did attack barack obama in the 2008 campaign. my issue with president obama is i think he's been pretty good on the anti-terrorism front and mostly because he flip-flopped. all the things he criticized president bush for. warrantless wire taps, indefinite detention, military commissions, he's kept up. he increased the drone strikes in pakistan to his credit. and he flip-flopped of course to hillary clinton's position on iran. he said that he would unconditionally negotiate with ahmadinejad and he doesn't so as president which is the smart flip-flop to make. the only thing he did say that troubles me is when he said after the election he'd have more flexibility. that troubles me a lot. what does flexibility mean?
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if he is going to abandon missile defense, he should have that out now, explain it to the country, not wait until after the election. >> hilary, you don't see the same flip-flops? >> not so much. i think what we have is a president who is strategically making decisions country by country. we have a nuclear treaty with russia, it's an important treaty, and it will serve us well in years to come. president obama achieved that and previous presidents had not been able to. so i do think that people look at this president the way joe biden described him today. joe biden, the former fair of the senate foreign relations
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committee, a renowned foreign policy expert for many, many years. he says this is a president we trust, this is a president who sees the complexity and makes the right judgments. >> ari, just quickly, michael her shall wrote today that joe biden ranks as one of the most powerful and influential vice presidents in american history. i'm just curious your perspective. you served alongside a very powerful vice president, cheney. is biden as powerful as cheney was, more powerful, in that category? >> it's hard to know because the vice president's true strength, any vice president's strength is what they whisper privately when they're with the president. i think the president gives him time alone and talks to him. it's is he able to influence the president. that's how vice presidents are powerful. you don't know. i don't think this administration talks about it. he's not as visible in that sense so it's hard to know what his real role is behind the scenes. all energy development comes with some risk,
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crime and punishment. for a second straight day john edwards' defense team tried to chip away at the credibility of andrew young. hammer away is more like it. edwards' former top aide and now the prosecution's star witness. they accuse young of shaking down one of edwards' wealthy donors behind his boss's back intend to cover the expenses of edwards' mistress, rielle hunter. the judge released a trove of trial exhibits today including this photograph of a house in chapel hill, north carolina, where hunter stayed while in hiding. it's owned by a former nba player. later hunter was given her own house in the same neighborhood. among the phone records, transcripts and a message left for young in 2008 after watching news reports about candidate obama's visit to edwards' house
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seeking his endorse mane. hunter said, johnny and elizabeth couldn't be further apart from each other, laughter. i mean on either side of the driveway. so, so, yeah, interesting. ten days later hunter gave birth in edwards' baby. joe johns joins me now. the phone records, the transcripts, the calls, the voice mail. were there really any smoking guns in there? >> reporter: no, anderson, i don't think you can call it a smoking gun, but i do think it tends to show that this was the kind of situation essentially where they were trying to keep this business about rielle hunter very quiet and going through extraordinary means. part of that was because elizabeth edwards was sort of on to the trail of rielle hunter. she would take the telephone of john edwards and give him hers and then check the bills to see who he was calling. it's very hard to, you know, keep the information away from
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elizabeth edwards. the defense says that just shows john edwards wasn't concerned about campaign finance money, he was concerned about staying out of the doghouse with his wife. >> the defense really tried to make it seem like andrew young was shaking down bunny melon, this wealthy donor, for the money that he claimed was going to rielle hunter. did they have any success in doing that? >> reporter: yeah, i think so. and that's not just me talking. i talked to a law professor who was inside the room and he said not a smoking gun on those points, but certainly a lot of nicks and cuts. i mean the whole point, of course, is to tear down the man's credibility and say he was actually the guy benefitting instead of john edwards. they went a long way in that direction, suggesting that of this hundreds of thousands of
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dollars that kept coming in from bunny melon, again and again, the witness on the stand today actually is the guy who was benefitting. >> you talk about edwards being kind of stoic in this trial looking like a trial lawyer at the bench, which is what he is, but what about the judge and jury, what were their reactions today? >> reporter: it's interesting. i talked to people who said they were bored because it was very tedious cross examination. went on and on, to the point where the judge actually warned abby lowell, the defense attorney, that he needed to move on or he was going to get hit with basically a ruling from the court that a lot of evidence he was bringing in was confusing and sort of delaying the trial. still, when you talk to people who are inside, they said, look, this is a hostile witness, andrew young is. it's a guy who actually went to a very good law school himself. he's on the stand. he's taking his time and they're going back and forth with abby lowell as abby lowell tries to drag information out of it. so, you know, the suggestion is abby lowell should get some time
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to do that because he's such a tough witness. >> joe, appreciate it, thanks. we're watching other sories tonight. >> anderson, opponents want the u.n. security council to take action. 70 civilians were killed in the city of hama. the force caused buildings to collapse trapping people under rubble. osama bin laden's three widows and two daughters are being deported from pakistan tonight. officials say they're headed to saudi arabia. they have been under house arrest for being in the country illegally. bin laden was killed by a u.s. raid on the pakistani hideout last year. a federal judge ruled today that video and photographs of that raid will not be released to the public, citing national security interests. the judge ruled against the freedom of interest request filed by judicial watch, a conservative legal group that had sought the materials. testifying in london today, media baron rupert murdoch admitted to a cover-up at the "news of the world" newspaper. he did not take responsibility
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keeping them honest tonight, we've done a lot of reporting on school bullying over the years. kids tormenting other kids. but tonight you'll hear from a father who says that school staffers were the bullies and his 10-year-old son was the victim, his 10-year-old autistic son. some of the alleged bullying and seemingly inappropriate behavior was caught on tape. the dad will be with us shortly. first, what allegedly happened at horace mann elementary school. it began last year, he says, when the school began sending his son, akian, home with notes detailing violent outbursts by the boy. a behavior expert was called in and sat in on several classes but never saw any outbursts. he says the teacher and social worker almost seemed to be mocking his concern.
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so he did something unusual. he wired akian for sound, sent him to school on february 17th, obtained six and a half hours of what he calls life-changing audio. he says the tape proves that akian wasn't hitting the teacher because something was wrong with him, but that he was lashing out at the people who were mistreating and mocking him. >> you go to see any books in the library or did you just look at sculptures? [ inaudible ] >> oak, you are a bastard. >> he was asking whether he'll get to see his father that weekend. his parents have shared custody. >> may i see dad? >> no. >> in this next clip, two women are sharing a drinking story with each other in front of the class. >> i'm doing the happy dance. i'm so very happy. you know why? [ inaudible ] i had a bottle of wine with my girlfriend last night.
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i forgot to eat dinner. you know what i was doing this morning? >> heaving? >> oh, my god, so bad. the wine won. >> the wine won. shortly after that, there's this encounter. >> oh, boy. knock it off. [ inaudible ] go ahead and scream because guess what, you're going to get nothing. until your mouth is shut. >> four samples from a six and a half hour recording. stewart took the entire thing to the school district. administrators fired one of the two aides who allegedly took part in what you heard. they transferred the other, along with the teacher, elsewhere into the school system. so our calls and e-mails have gone unanswered, same for the school principal. the school district referred us to a statement. but it's a little confusing
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because there are in fact two statements from the superintendent. one of them was dated the 24th, reads in part, quote, i want to assure our parents that the individuals who are heard on the recording raising their voices and inappropriately addressing children no longer work in the district and have not since shortly after we received the copy of the recording. now because the teacher was simply transferred elsewhere in the school system, in the district, the implication from that statement is that she's somehow been exonerated, that she wasn't on the tape inappropriately addressing children. today another statement went up and it says while we cannot legally comment specifically on personnel matters, the district does not consider the matter closed at this time as the investigation remains ongoing. so let's talk about this more. joining me now is stewart, akian's father. i appreciate you being with us. first of all, how is your son doing? >> well, he's much better now that he's not with that teacher anymore. i mean he immediately changed
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back to the child i knew and he hasn't lashed out at anyone since that time. >> you gave your son's school these audio tapes two months ago. why go public with them now? >> well, i gave them the audio because i wanted immediate action taken. and to the school's credit, they did fire one of the aides. but when i found out that they had only moved the teacher to a different district, i was pretty upset about that. two weeks ago i wrote them an e-mail begging them to fire her and making my case why. it was really my last opportunity to speak to them to see what would happen, to really do something. and the answer i got back was it's a personnel matter and that's it. i waited two weeks to see if anything happened. and when i realized that this whole thing was just being shoved upper the rug and it was just being covered up, i said as a father i have a duty to my son that his abuse is not covered up and that this doesn't happen again. at that time i made a decision to go public with what happened.
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>> so to your knowledge this teacher is still teaching, just in a different school? >> yes. i mean i -- you know, we have parent -- we had parents tell us that. then when the district released the statement you made about all the people were no longer in the district on that audio, i put up a second video where i called the high school and i played the voice mail of that teacher to show that she had moved from the elementary school to the high school and, therefore, was still working in the district. so it's a lot of confusing and mixed messages coming from the district. i don't know why. i didn't pick a fight with them. i was looking for an apology and for hopefully changes to the legislation that would make it so that if a teacher violates a child verbally or physically, they are immediately removed. you don't get a second chance. you don't get to work in another class. you're gone if you violate your oath. >> i want to play -- this tape
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is extraordinary. i want to play one more piece of audio of an adult in your son's classroom that made him cry. let's listen. >> may i see -- >> you can't see. [ inaudible ] >> i mean if this was captured just in one day, who knows what was going on, you know in, other days. you say you could only identify two of the adults on the tape, your son's teacher and one of the aides but couldn't identify the person on this section of the tape. what did the school say about this person? >> they have never responded to me about that. you know, and just so people understand why that was so cruel, because you could hear them all making fun of him, laughing at him. that was something he felt very personal about. and then he went on a half hour, you know, throwing over chairs and crying because they really hurt him badly. that is the worst three seconds of my life listening to that. it's something that still haunts me and i can't even listen to it
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and hear my son begin to cry like that and just know that there was a culture of cruelty and they did it because my son is verbally impaired, he couldn't ever tell me that. so they felt they could do whatever they wanted to him and no one would ever find out. thankfully they were wrong. but they just mocked him and didn't care. >> it's extraordinary. we just received a statement from the lawyer for kelly altenburg the teacher you say you can clearly hear. it reads kelly altenburg is a special education teacher who over the past 23 years has dedicated herself to teaching and consulting in the field of special education. she does not condone any such remarks and this language was not used at her direction, in her presence or with her knowledge. how do you respond? >> listen to the audio. that audio speaks for itself. you hear her multiple times during that. you know, if that's her defense, then bring it on because i will
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sit with anyone and i will play the entire six and a half hours and when she's there -- because that was her laughing. she wants to claim that's not her laugh, she wants to claim she wasn't the one there when the aide was talking about being under the influence of alcohol, you know, that's laughable. you know, i wish she had some integrity and just apologized. but if she wants to go on the attack, that's fine. you know what, i'm not a 10-year-old boy who can't defend himself. an i think there's about three million people who have seen these videos and who have come to my son's defense that will read that statement with as much disdain as i just heard it. >> it is, again, this is just recorded on one day. the idea that this day was a one off seems just to strain any sense of credibility or -- i mean it doesn't make any sense that this just happened on this one day. i want to bring in a disability rights attorney, children's advocate. stuart said he's heard from many parents who said their kids have suffered abuse at the hands of teachers. how big of a problem do you think this really is?
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>> you know, anderson, this whole issue of abuse is really, really big, particularly with kids with autism and other special needs. more than two-thirds of kids who were recently polled say they have suffered some kind of bullying, kids with autism. we see it happening child to child and it also happens with parents. i think you know that i represent a group of children in las vegas who suffered similar emotional and verbal abuse by teachers. and in that case the teacher was actually criminally prosecuted, convicted of child abuse and was sentenced to 60 days in jail. so this whole issue of how teachers and how adults are dealing with autism is something that really needs to be examined by school districts. and i think this is an incredible, teachable moment. it's a moment for school districts around this country to examine, you know, the training, the supervision and what's happening in classrooms when you have children who have limited language, children who have no ability to express themselves. the training and the way that
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those kids are treated has to be examined by school districts. >> and obviously there's a lot of great teachers out there and it's important to say that. >> absolutely. >> but this certainly strikes at the credibility -- i mean certainly for any parent who has a special needs child, they're going to wonder, you know, well, is what the special needs teachers telling me is going on with my child, is it really happening? this strikes at the credibility of the entire system rightly or wrongly. >> you raise an incredible point, anderson. the issue of trust. this is really about trust. there's a legal term called interlocal parentus and it means certain individuals take on the legal responsibility that parents have. and when parents drop their kids off at the school, at the door of the school, that's what happens. those teachers, they become like the parents. they stand in the place of parents. so the trust, the warmth, the empathy that you expect parents to have with students or their
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children is what you expect teachers to have with students. and when that trust is broken like in this case, when you hear that tape, you know, parents are going to rightfully be concerned about leaving their children in the hands of teachers who are acting so inappropriately, as we heard on those tapes. >> and as a parent to have a child that can't tell you what's happening to him in school or to her in school, that's got to be such a terrible feeling. what is your advice to other parents out there who worry about their special needs child going to school? >> you know, i have been -- so many parents just like that have reached out to me asking how they can do what i did. you know, because there is such concern. you know, we can't be in these classes. we can't be there all the time, we don't know. so i did what i did because i needed to be there to hear when
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they didn't think any person would be listening. so i mean if it's legal in your state and you have a big concern, you're seeing what happened like with my son, drop an audio recorder in their pocket and find out what's really going on because you know your child more than anyone. if you think there's something seriously wrong and your child can't tell you, don't take the chance. i'm only sorry i waited six months to do it. i wish i had done it before and saved my son the horror that he went through. >> stuart, i appreciate you being on. the secret service prostitution scandal keeps getting bigger. allegations from colombia have already cost nine secret service members their jobs. now there's a new report of a similar incident inspect el salvador last year. the latest on that. [ female announcer ] hey, head & shoulders users...
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back with a 360 news and business bulletin. >> anderson, new reports suggest the secret service prostitution scandal in colombia may not have been an isolated incident. seattle station kiro has a report based on an unnamed u.s. government contractor who says he went to a strip club in el salvador with about a dozen secret service agents who drank heavily. here's what the contractor reportedly told kiro's investigative reporter. >> he witnessed some of the secret service agents going into
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the vip area to get sexual favors for cash and ultimately, he said, they were working really hard to try to get the strippers back to their hotel rooms, and that in at least two circumstances he witnessed that despite him telling them that it was a terrible idea, that that occurred. >> that incident happened in march of last year before president obama arrived in san salvador. new information about the huge pile-up that killed 11 people on interstate 75 in florida back in january. an investigation revealed a highway patrolman who ordered that the highway be reopened despite fog and smoke from a nearby brush fire didn't have any formal training on opening or closing roads. stocks ended higher on wall street today. the dow rose 114 points, the s&p gained 9 and the nasdaq was up 21 points. anderson, this is for you. a puppy has been rescued after getting caught in a cactus.
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the arizona humane society says a good samaritan heard the puppy crying and took a whole bunch of cactus spines that were caught in the poor thing. the puppy is doing much better now and has been adopted. >> a very cute little puppy. >> you see, the royals and the babies, they fail to move you, but the puppy -- >> i'm a sucker for a puppy any time. that's true. >> at least i didn't lose $10 betting on you. i had a bet going with jenny that that would move you. >> oh, really? >> this is what we do. >> you bet on this sort of thing? thanks. time for the shot tonight. it's a video of jo-jo and buddy. they are parents in a matter of speaking. take a look. >> give me a kiss. what are you doing? give me a kiss. >> i don't know what the meaning of this is. that's all there is. animal frenzy here tonight. isha, thanks. coming up, a new station tries to do its nightly weather report. the set is overrun with bears,
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight we're adding the weather bears. they're kind of like weathermen but they're bears. we didn't even know they existed until the wnep news team in columbia county, pennsylvania, tried to throw to meteorologist kurt aaron during the live 11:00 news. take a look. >> kurt aaron is out in the backyard to give us our forecast. we're told he's not because there's bears outside. this is live video from the backyard.
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>> no way. >> there's two bears. >> look at that. and so this is why kurt aaron is not out there right now. i don't blame him. >> well, he has a job to do. >> oh, please. they were standing right there. >> they walked right up on me. >> oh, my god. are you okay? >> black bears, yeah. >> so kurt aaron ended up doing his weather report from inside but naturally he was a little preoccupied. >> that's quite a bit of snow. do we have the bear back? let's just take another look there. that was a big bear. and he didn't look very happy. there's one of the cubs right there. these bears just came up from the back of the hill. oh, somebody set off an alarm. >> this has been quite a month for bears on live news. just a few weeks ago ktla was on bear watch and caught a bear on the loose giving a walking texter the surprise of his life. >> he came down the driveway and now he's on briggs. it looks like he's turning into another driveway. we'll maneuver around and see if we can get another shot of him. yeah, he definitely -- uh-oh,
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we've got a resident there. >> it seems april, 2012, will go down as the most beartastic month in journalistic history, the likes have which have not been seen since "anchorman." >> let's go to brian fontana with a channel 4 news exclusive. >> the mood is tense. i have been on some serious, serious reports, but nothing quite like this. >> you're live, mr. tamlin. >> it's sunny out and the bears are fluffy. just how fluffy remains to be seen. >> i've done a lot of reporting and have never come face to face with a bear but have almost been accosted by a possibly intoxicated giant chicken. >> we are live throughout these next two hours. then larry king takes it live. we have much more coverage of hurricane ike still coming up. there's a lot of people believe it or not in houston. >> believe it or not a couple of bars were open. you saw the result. live reporting.
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nobody said it was easy. you have to be ready for anything. bears in your live shot, costumed characters and then there are the kids. >> as for the wedding, a lot of the details have been kept under wraps. we do know the bride, kim, will be wearing vera wang. she'll be marrying her nba beau, nba player kris humphries. kim also spoke out yesterday to ryan seacrest. he produces a reality show on e! keeping up with the kardashians and she did say her dress will blow everyone away. >> i actually think that was ryan seacrest in the back in the hat. no, it wasn't. we adore the kid. in our dream newscast, he'd be a cnn contributor mixing up mary madeline, going head to head with jeff toobin but not doing any weather reporting. we'll leave that to the experts. that does it for us. we'll see you one hour from now, another edition of "360" at 10:00 eastern. when i sat down with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, he said yes to