good morning to all of you. i'm carol costello. happening right now in the "newsroo "newsroom," a big day. the shuttle "enterprise" hitching a ride on top of a 747 bound for new york's museum. we're live at every point along the way. zimmerman bombshell. trayvon martin's killer who told the court just last week that he didn't have any money has $200,000 in the bank. this morning his bond could be revoked. plus, scare on the tarmac. 43 passengers kept on board a plane for more than three hours. the cause, a bug bite. "newsroom" begins right now. good morning to you. i'm carol costello. you are bere its final flight. the granddaddy of a program. it was the next wave of a space race that had americans holding their breath.

a craft so futuristic and exciting president ford told nasa to name it after captain kirk's ship from the legendary show "star trek." >> space, the final frontier. these are the voyages of the starship "enterprise." its five-year mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life. >> we did go where no man had gone before and today we take you to washington where just minutes from now the "enterprise" will take off for new york city. let's start in miami. john zarrella kicks off our coverage. i'm ready for some spectacular pictures. >> no question about it. this ought to be sensational. it was supposed to be named the

"constitution" but with the power of the trekies they got the president to change the name to "enterprise." around 9:30 a.m., it will take off. this is rodney dangerfield of space shuttles. built in the '70s as you said. it was the very first space shuttle to fly but it never flew in space. it was used for test flights out in california to test the aerodynamics of the shuttle concept and test the ability of a free flying vehicle. the shuttle never had power when it came down. it was a glider. to test its ability to land safely. they first used it out on the dry lake bed out in california before they actually tested it on the hard surface out in california. and then after those tests were done, it was brought down to the kennedy space center and used again for more testing of the concepts and the abilities of

the shuttle to fly. again, it never flew in space, carol. this is going to be a really special day for "enterprise." finally getting its due. >> and soon it will piggy back on board that 747 and make its way to new york city. we'll get back to you, john zarrella. 25 minutes the "enterprise" due to take off from washington. next stop is jfk in new york and along the way great images we'll share with you. this is how we expect things to fall into place. the departure set at 9:30 eastern and then it will fly to new york city. due to land at jfk around 11:00 eastern if all goes according to plan. a bombshell in the case against george zimmerman. it turns out the man who shot and killed trayvon martin is not broke.

he has $200,000 in the bank. something zimmerman's attorney did not spell out in zimmerman's bond hearing. that means a judge today could revoke zimmerman's bond. that $200,000 came from zimmerman's supporters who donated to his website. zimmerman's attorney who said he thought his client had no money spoke exclusively with anders e cooper. >> i'm not sure he thought in some sense they were available to him because even after the bond was granted, it was the family who was trying to come up with enough money for the bond and i guess if they thought they had full, easy access to it they could have used that. now that i'm aware of it, we'll deal with it in a much more transparent way and probably bring in someone like an accountant to assist me with administering it and deal with it very openly. >> it comes as a hearing on zimmerman's criminal file starts.

what does this mean? what will happen in court today? >> good morning, carol. there's three things that the judge could do. one is to revoke the bond. that means that george zimmerman would have to once again come back in custody or could raise the bond. it was at $15,000 cash. or just leave it alone. we don't know what's going to happen here. however, this was going to be another routine kind of hearing and it's far from routine now because once this revelation was made, $200,000, it has a lot of people very surprised. mark o'mara, says his client didn't tell him of this and wasn't aware of it last week when they went in for the bond hearing but george zimmerman you have to assume was pretty much aware of this. the prosecution had three of his family members under oath on the stand asking them about the website and how much money and they all said they don't know. >> it's strange that mark o'mara wouldn't know about this. he knew about these websites. didn't he check them out? is there no way to check them

out and find out how much money was raised? >> he had other priorities. he just came on the case. a lot of things he was dealing with. i think he thought there may have been money raised. there was paypal accounts tied to them but the amounts were small. several hundred dollars or maybe a thousand dollars and not $200,000. that clearly shows that apparently support george zimmerman and are willing to put their money down on it. >> trayvon martin's family says george zimmerman took the stand and said what he said and apologized to the family all to raise more money. is it possible that money could have been raised after george zimmerman took the stand in that initial bond hearing? >> no. from what we are hearing, this is money raised over the course of several weeks after george zimmerman put his website out there. it was pretty good fund-raising. there's no question that the attorney will plan to put up his own website to build a defense fund for george zimmerman.

it's expected to take at least a million dollars. the fund-raising will begin in earnest. we'll have to see what damage has been done by this trickle out revelation. >> you'll be covering the hearing today. we'll check back with you. martin savidge, thanks. a bit of breaking news to share with you. a strange story. an intense police situation unfolding in london right now. happening in central london. police say a man is throwing things out of of a fifth floor window of a building. things like tv sets and other large objects. they have closed off several blocks. this area is a popular place for shopping. a police negotiator now heading to the scene. nic robertson is on the phone. this guy is throwing tvs out the window? >> reporter: it's not clear why he was doing it yet. the police are saying at this time it's not clear if he has anyone held hostage with him. that's the reason they say they are sending in a negotiator.

why we have been standing here the situation is developing over the last hour or so since it began. we have seen police explosive sniffer dogs brought into the scene and what's unusual here in london to see armed police officers brought into the scene, two officers arriving in a high-speed police vehicle with weapons holesstered on their hips, unclear if they are live weapons or tasers but unusual to see armed officers brought on the scene of a situation. it is developing here. there are five large ambulances on stand by and it is unclear how many people are currently involved. one witness, this of course has not been confirmed by the police at this stage but one witness reported a man disturbed going into an employment agency with a canister he had about his person and threatening to explode the canister and not clear if there were any explosives involved if he actually had any explosives

but the police taking no precautions bringing in those sniffer dogs and this is still an ongoing situation essential with london police trying to clear the snarled traffic here at the same time the negotiations appear to be going on. >> nic robertson reporting live from london. thanks. the cia agent who led the waterboarding of terror detainees after 9/11 is talking about it for the first time. jose rodriguez says waterboa waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other techniques paid off. critics say it amounted to torture. rodriguez talks about the most notorious and maybe least cooperative detainee of all, 9/11 mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed. agents waterboarded him more than 180 times in a month. >> this is an individual who probably didn't give a rat's

[ bleep ] about having water poured on his face. >> he never believed for one second you were going to kill him. >> let me just tell you, khalid shaikh mohammed would use his fingers to count the number of seconds because he knew that in all likelihood we would stop at ten. this doesn't sound like a person who is afraid of dying. >> if he's sitting there counting off, he knows you're not going to kill him. he knows he's not going to drown, then why do it? what's the point? >> the cumulative effect of waterboarding and sleep deprivation and everything else that was done got to him. >> what happens? does he break down? does he weep? does he fall apart? >> no. he gets a good night sleep. he was very heavy. when he came to us. he lost 50 pounds. >> you mean like people in the hospital who drink ensure? >> yes. dietary manipulation is part of the techniques. >> sleep deprivation, dietary

manipulation, i mean, the united states doesn't do that. >> well, we do. >> fascinating. the obama administration ended the enhanced interrogation program. rodriguez says that was a mistake. he criticized the use of drones to kill terrorists rather than capture them. john edwards' lawyers are doing their best to cast doubts on the prosecution's star witness who is expected to be back on the stand today. former edwards' aide andrew young admitted much of the nearly $1 million in campaign supporters money went to build his dream house and not to cover up edwards' affair. young's wife is also expected to take the stand today in greensboro. the cdc has given the all-clear after fears a delta passenger might have monkey pox. a minnesota woman coming back from uganda triggered the scare. passengers were quarantined for three hours in chicago. >> captain comes on and says

this may sound strange but it seems like we're going to be quarantined for a moment. apparently someone is on board and they may or may not have something. we are reading and taking pictures. does it look like this. the flight attendant says it doesn't look like that. >> doctors checked the passengers out and turns out she just had bites from bed bugs. new orleans saints gm mickey loomis is talking with a clear conscience he says. loomis decided a tweet was not good enough and went public. he emphatically denied an espn report that he eavesdropped on other team's coaches. >> i have never listened to an opposing team's communications. i have never asked for the capability to listen to an opposing team's communications. i have never inquired as to the possibility of listening in on an opposing team's

communications. and i have never been aware of any capability to listen in on an opposing team's communication at the superdome or any nfl stadium. >> the fbi and police are looking into eavesdropping allegations. loomis says he doesn't know who made the eavesdropping claim but does say he's pretty darn angry about it. no surprise at the beginning of the nfl draft last night. >> with the first pick in the 2012 nfl draft, the indianapolis colts select andrew luck, quarterback, stanford. >> the pressure. as expected washington chose another quarterback talking about the redskins now. robert griffin iii was the next pick and then eight trades went down. president obama has a plan to protect veterans who want to go from the front lines to college classrooms. we'll have details for you from washington just ahead.

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we'll have it all for you. police in london say it's unclear if they have a hostage situation. 9,000 u.s. marines are shipping out of japan. the u.s. government agreed to remove them and family members from a base in okinawa. they are angry over a string of criminal acts dating back to 1995. about half of the marines will go to guam. others are being transferred to hawaii and australia. and colombia's ambassador to the united states says president obama needs to apologize for the secret service prostitution scandal. the whole thing has tarnished cartagena's reputation and that a public apology will help. so far nine secret service members have either resigned or been fired for allegedly buying prostitutes in colombia. from slow jamming the news to singing al green, president

obama showing the lighter side on the campaign trail in his re-election bid and as you might expect republican groups went on the attack. one group slamming the man it calls "the celebrity president." >> the ad was made by karl rove. president obama will focus on the nation's veterans today unveiling a plan at ft. stewart in georgia to help service members who want to go to college. white house correspondent brianna keilar is in washington. what is it called? we can't wait initiatives? give us specifics. >> reporter: this is another one of go it alone things that he's

doing, carol. he'll announce this executive order specifically targeting veterans and specifically targeting for-profit colleges. if you look at the numbers, you can see that there are a lot of for-profit colleges who are receiving federal loan money. really gi bill money from veterans according to statistics from the senate health committee. eight of the ten largest recipients of g.i. bill money, the federal money that veterans get to go to school are for profit schools and you also certainly are a number that the white house will point to that a number of them have dropout rates of over 50%. what is the plan here for president obama when he's down in florida? he'll be announcing a few different things for this initiative. one is to have more transparency in career placements trying to hold these schools more accountable for where students specifically veterans will be getting jobs after they graduate. also, cracking down on

aggressive recruiting tactics on military bases and adding sort of a layer of advising so that there's really resources for veterans when it comes to financial aid and really just their movement through academically through these colleges. >> brianna keilar reporting live from washington. just ahead on "newsroom," the man who could be critical of the government's case against john edwards is going back on the stand today but there's a problem. he seems to have trouble remembering some very important details like where the money went. we're also keeping an eye on the space shuttle "enterprise." it's set to leave washington in just a few minutes. cnn continues in a moment.

trial is expected to be back on the stand. the defense grilled andrew young asking if he made up stories about the former presidential candidate asking if he used campaign funds to hide his affair. here's joe johns. >> reporter: thursday for the first time the court began releasing some of the prosecution exhibits entered into evidence. pictures of one of the houses in north carolina where john edwards' mistress rielle hunter stayed after she moved away from the new york area to escape hounding by the media. phone records, transcripts of phone calls and there was more painful cross examination with prosecution star witness andrew young on the stand. a former right-hand man to edwards who helped raise money to conceal the former senator's

affair with rielle hunter and wrote a book to tell about it. edwards' lawyer continueded to chip away at young's credibility and recollection of dates, times, place, conversations he had with edwards. young often sparring with lowell saying he was not able to recall certain specific dates and times. or even the sequence of events. not able to remember whether he wrote a check to buy a car for rielle hunter or if he paid for it another way and asked young if he used rielle to get money for himself. he said no. most was given by a wealthy edwards benefactor. the checks released publicly on thursday by the court were endorsed by young's wife and deposited in the young family account. mellon had given thousands of dollars. the defense team needs a clear time line to support its claim

that young was enriching himself while paying for living expenses, travel expenses for hunter and the baby girl fathered by edwards. its cross-examination was painful at times and warned the defense she may exclude certain evidence because it was confusing the issue or wasting time. a north carolina law professor observing the trial defended the defense. >> it's taking a long time but doesn't seem like he's going in circles wasting time. >> reporter: the recent testimony zeroed in on how much andrew young may have benefited financially from the john edwards scandal. as hundreds of thousands of dollars kept coming in supposedly for the benefit of rielle hunter. joe johns, cnn, greensboro, north carolina. >> joe johns reporting. the space shuttle "enterprise," we think it's moving right now.

we're going to go live out to dulles airport in virginia. you can see it's just about to take off. the shuttle "enterprise" is on top of that boeing 747 and will make its way to new york city where it will have the flyover sort of like it did in washington last week. it will fly over landmarks like the statue of liberty, a few bridges. and then it will land at jfk airport and after that it will be housed in a museum and another chapter in nasa's history will be closed as this thing takes off, we'll show it to you. we're just waiting for right now. john zarrella, are you there? >> reporter: i'm here, carol. >> so it's so cool -- it's just a spectacular sight. >> didn't we just do this not that long ago? when "discovery" flew from florida up to dulles, you know, that is how this all shook out because "discovery" ends up

going to the smithsonian as oldest vehicle that nasa had that had flown in space and "enterprise" going up to new york to the sea, air and space museum and as you see it, they have that tail cone on there again. that duck tail i like to call it that helps with aerodynamics of the vehicle. you know, it's going to be a great day in new york to watch this. it will be just spectacular to see this flyover and up the hudson river we understand and down the hudson and maybe into new jersey. just like what happened with "discovery," carol. we don't know for sure the exact flight path they're going to take. they'll fly at about 24,000 feet. they will be cruising at about -- i'm told from nasa folks at johnson space center told me this morning they'll cruise at about 300 knots up to the new york area. it's the same flight crew that

flew "discovery" up to dulles and is going to take enterprise to new york except i think the weather officer, i understand, the weather pilot has changed. four of the five are the same. carol? >> do we have athena jones out there? i'm sorry. i couldn't hear you. >> reporter: i'm here. >> explain to us what's happening from your vantage point. you're at dulles. >> reporter: we just watched the plane with the "enterprise" perched on top move from the position where it had been parked for several days now. it's now taxiing down the runway preparing to take off. we just saw take off what we believe is the nasa plane accompanying it like it did with the last flight of the "discovery" up here from florida. so we have seen that plane take off. this one is now taxiing out of our view but you've got up here dozens of people. just an hour ago it may have

been about 15 people is now over 100. lots of cameras, tv cameras, lots of people just coming out to see this big sight. it won't be as spectacular as it is going to be in new york today. we had our chance a couple weeks ago here. some have come back. people who saw the "discovery" land. i talked to one woman who saw "discovery" -- one woman from florida who came to see it and is back now to see "enterprise" take off. there are kids of all ages. lots of people coming out on this windy day waiting for this to take off. >> it's just cool to see any plane take off but when it has a huge shuttle on top of it, it's even more spectacular. jason carroll, you are out there in new york city. is new york prepared? >> reporter: new york is more than prepared. prepared and excited. you heard athena talking about the wind. as we were sitting in the live

truck waiting for this live shot to happen here, our truck was slowly rocking back and forth. a lot of us had questions as to whether or not this flight would actually happen but we're all hearing it's a go. the music is blaring in the background and just off camera there are lots of people lining up for what is supposed to be a spectacular ceremony for "enterprise's" arrival. hundreds of folks have been invited down here. schoolchildren from new york, from connecticut, from new jersey, folks from nasa are going to speak. also some folks from the air and sea museum will be down here as well. that will be "enterprise's" final resting place when it gets here it will be housed here for several months and then on june 6th another spectacular moment when "enterprise" is loaded up on a barge and sailed over to the hudson river where it will end up at the sea and air museum. once again, some questions about the wind here but we're told

everything is a go. it will land on jfk's longest runway which is 14,500 feet long. i'm told. right now everyone just waiting to see what will happen. as you know, even if you weren't invited to this special ceremony here at jfk, a lot of folks in new york city are going to get the opportunity to see "enterprise" do its low flyover of the city. supposed to be down the hudson river so folks along the hudson river will get a view. folks downtown will be able to get a view. we call battery park city in that area as "enterprise" makes a fly by the statue of liberty. lots of excitement and anticipation awaiting for the arrival. >> i can't wait. i hear the music in the background there. john zarrella, who is flying the "enterprise" to new york city? >> reporter: it's the same crew that flew it. i'll have to get you their names. the same crew that flew

"discovery" up there except as i mentioned just the weather officer is different. i've got that list and i'll bring that up as we get them in orbit -- get them in orbit. when they actually take off. that's the point. this was a shuttle that could have flown in space. it didn't have engines initially. it never flew. it was used for all of those landing tests in the '70s to test the aerodynamics of the space shuttle concept and make sure that it could in fact re-enter the earth's atmosphere and they could glide safely back to earth. that's what it was primarily used for. but there was some thought of perhaps having it to be the second shuttle to fly after "columbia" but then in some of the last free flying tests it did off the 747, they discovered structural things they decided to change in the final design of

"cl "columbia" it would have been more expensive to take "enterprise" apart. we're not going to retro fit it. we'll build other vehicles and thus "enterprise" ends up as a museum piece in 1985 in the smithsonian but not until it did all of these tests that without those tests the space shuttle fleet may never have flown if they weren't able to successfully do those tests out in california. you know, carol, it spent a lot of time on the road. it was in europe. it went to an air show in paris. it went to germany, italy, canada. nasa used it as an ambassador of the shuttle fleet flying it all over. did the u.s. world fair in louisiana as well in new orleans back in 1983. so it's had a very, very

colorful history. it's just not a lot of people know about it because it never flew in space. >> interesting. athena jones, why is it stopped? do you know? >> reporter: we're not sure. we don't know what it could be waiting for. we're all watching it to see when it makes its next move. interesting to hear a lot of history that john zarrella talks about. you know, the 747 jumbo jet that the "enterprise" is mounted on top of also has -- one moment -- an interesting history. we're hearing sirens. we're not sure what that's about. the plane has an interesting history. it's called a shuttle carrier aircraft 905 is the technical fun nasa acronym for it. 747 that was in commercial use. they bought it from american airlines in 1974. it looks as if this contraption may be moving a bit.

the shuttle on top of the plane is inching forward continuing on to prepare to take off. just to finish up that plane, that jumbo jet was brought from american airlines back in 1974. one interesting fact, a little tidbit for you, that shuttle weighs 150,000 pounds. believe it or not even though that shuttle is mounted on top of that gigantic 747 four engine plane, it still weighs less than what a fully loaded 747 would weigh normally because this one is stripped down after the forward cabin there's no seats in there, no galley. no passengers. no luggage of course. it's going to be a lot less heavy. we're still waiting to see it takeoff. still watching it get in place. >> okay. we have eileen collins on the phone. the first female shuttle commander. eileen, thank you for being with us this morning. >> good morning. thanks. >> so as you're watching this

image, what goes through your mind? >> well, of course i'm sad to see the shuttles go off to a museum. in this case, "enterprise" has been in a museum since 1985. it's been in the air and space museum in washington. i'm excited that now we're going to have a shuttle in a different part of the country where people from around the country can see it up in new york. i think there's some good in this too. >> space travel for nasa has come to a halt. do you hope that when people go and look at these shuttles in these museums that it will create an excitement among people again for the space program? >> without a doubt. people are going to see how big the shuttle was and by looking at it, they'll see how large the pay loads were that we were able to take up into orbit but also looking at the shuttle, we should realize that it took us to low earth orbit which is only 200 to 300 miles above the surface and now the country is building a replacement is the best thing i can think of but it

will be more versatile and able to take a starter to explore beyond lower orbit and our country will go back to the moon onto asteroids and some day to mars. that will be very exciting to young people, yes, but everybody that sees the shuttles in the museums. >> i can remember when george w. bush talked about going to mars. there were initial plans made and then it all came to a stop. >> in fact, i remember that too. i know people were very excited about it. space flight is expensive. it's not just executing and operating and doing the space flight but it's developing. that's where the big costs are. we need to continue to do this and nasa is doing this today. we have a space station in orbit. the shuttle built that space station and people that worked in the shuttle program can be very, very proud of that space station. it's there to help us learn how to go to mars and how to keep people healthy in space for long

periods of time and that obviously is necessary if we are going to safely do deep space. >> as we're watching this, you're a pilot. what does it feel like to be the pilot of that 747 with the shuttle on board your back? >> these are very professional highly trained pilots that are making this takeoff right now and i'm sure they are very focused on their check list and instruments and flying skills. they know that this is a very important mission. they know they want to get that shuttle up there safely. i would say they are focused and emotions are probably running pretty low as they make sure they do this mission safely. i think once the pilots are done and they get the shuttle up there safely, they'll be very proud of what they've done and they trained for a long time for this. good for them. >> they are picking up speed now. that means takeoff is not far away. we saw a shot of the hudson river in new york and you could

see white caps so it's quite windy there. how worried is the pilot when they talk high wind in new york city. >> any crosswind would push them to the right or left and make landing more difficult. also make an approach more difficult. they have flight rules that would -- if winds were too high, they have the forecast. they would know that and wouldn't go. the flights are within limits for this flight. i'm sure they are confident. not to worry. >> okay. do we have the nasa transmission? i'm asking my producer. negative. okay. we just don't have that transmission yet. what a beautiful sight. what a beautiful takeoff. it looks so lumbering taking off and not like the powerful takeoffs you feel inside of a plane. >> i think when you look at this 747 with a space shuttle on top, that is a huge flying vehicle right there. so it looks like it's going slow but it's actually going quite fast. if you looked at a small

airplane going at that same speed it would appear to go faster. there's a bit of an illusion here. i would imagine that they are probably approaching if not over about 150 to 200 miles an hour at this point. >> thanks. we'll take a quick break and we'll be back with more and show you spectacular pictures after a short break. every time a local business opens its doors or creates another laptop bag

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reynolds wolf is here. he's our meteorologist. i wanted to talk about the challenges of flying over the hudson river in new york. it's really windy there. >> it certainly will be on a day like today. if you were flying like a commercial airline flying over with a bit of a bump here and there and no question about it. it will be enough that these guys may have a safe landing obviously at jfk. amazing to see this immense object. two separate entities but they are joined as one. it's amazing when you think about the big tractor, the thing pulling it, 747, maximum air speed 700 miles an hour. with shuttle on top, you can do of a of that. if you were standing next to it and had this come by, it would roar by at incredible speed. from our vantage point it appears to be going slow. it's amazing. if the wrights were alive today and saw this immense object

going through parts of the northeast, it would be blown by. it will go past amazing landmarks. statue of liberty up the hudson river. you see places going by. jfk is the destination. the eventual spot will be at the intrepid sea, air and space museum. you have seen these launch from florida. it's weird to see it piggyback on a 747. >> spectacular sight but sad to me because it's part of our history that is being put to bed. we don't really know -- eileen told us a few things nasa is coming up with but that's far into the future. the private city will take over space travel for the united states and that's weird for me to think about because you think about the jfk speech and all of the presidents that really pushed space travel and that is no more. it's spectacular sight and a sad

side. we'll head out to new york city to check in with jason carroll at jfk where people are gathered to watch this thing land. set the scene for us, jason. >> reporter: we're excited here in new york. this is a new sight for many new yorkers. i know you were talking about seeing many shuttle takeoffs and landings. whatever it may be in florida. for folks here in the northeast, this is a completely new sight. an exciting day for people here in new york. lots of people now starting to file in here at jfk. hundreds invited for the ceremony to place. once "enterprise" makes its historic landing here it will land on the longest runway here at jfk. some 14,500 feet long. there were some early concerns about the wind. we've been told that we've been experiencing wind gusts here at 30 miles per hour. nasa says it's a go. you have seen the "enterprise" take off from dulles, so it's on its way. we're all here anxiously

awaiting. i have to tell you, there were a lot of folks in new york that didn't expect new york city to be chosen as one of the final spots. you look at the other places. "atlantis" going to florida. "endeavour" headed to california science center in los angeles. you've got "discovery" going to the smithsonian in virginia. and of course "enterprise" here. i know a lot of folks in houston were somewhat disappointed they did not get a shuttle. so some bittersweet moments for those in houston but an exciting moment for people here in new york. >> somewhat disappointed? they were flat out angry. we'll talk more about that in a minute. we'll take a quick break and be back with more. according to the signs, ford is having some sort of big tire event. i just want to confirm a w things with fiona. how would you describe the event? it's big. no,i mean in terms of savings how would you sum it up? big in your own words, with respect to selection, what would you say? big okay, let's talk rebates mike, they're big they're big get $100 rebate, plus the low price tire guarantee

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space shuttle "enterprise" on top a boeing 747. it took off just about 20 minutes ago from dulles airport.

what a beautiful takeoff it was. we assure you it was going faster than it looks. it will make its way to jfk airport at about 11:00 eastern time. but you never know. let's head out to miami and john zarrella. it's bittersweet watching this thing today. >> it again, another mark to the end of the near ending space program. you'll have "atlantis" retired. but you asked and now i do have in front of me the names of the crew that's flying the shuttle. i mentioned it's pretty much the same crew that brought "discovery" up to dulles. bill wright is commanding today. jeff multe is the pilot today. and bob zimmerman is the weather pilot.

he's probably got a pretty big job today. he's new on this flight given the conditions we're seeing up there in new york with the wind and everything blowing there and the white caps on the hudson river. his job is probably bigger than it was for the weather officer who flew "discovery" up to dulles. >> all right. i'm going to interrupt you. we have lori garby on the phone. she's the number two at nasa. i'm sorry? she's live. we're glad we put you in front of a camera. that's a nice surprise for me. thank you for being with us this morning. >> good morning. it's great to be here. >> so these flyovers of the shuttles over major cities like the one over washington, d.c., it was just spectacular. i'm sure the flyover over new york city will be spectacular as well. what do you want people to take away from those? >> it's exciting to share the excitement of the space program with the american people.

we truly believe that the 30-year shuttle history has helped develop a program that's going to take us further into space. it built the international space station. we want to share that excitement with the public. >> how much planning that is gone into this? >> well, nasa is all about planning. and the space shuttle program has been planned to retire for over six years now. and we looked into how to best show the public that paid for these it space shuttles about the program and we had bids for each of the cities. new york city was able to get the "enterprise" and we have been planning for half a year now about this flight. after she lands here today, in two months she'll be barged up the river to the intrepid muse seem. >> talk to us about the future of the space program in the united states and what nasa has planned. >> of course.

all over the country today, new space vehicles are being built with names like "dragon" and "dream chaser." we have the space station with three astronauts working full-time studying how to make life better in earth and also how to explore further. we're partnering with our entry here in the united states to be able to lower the cost of space operations. the shuttle was a great program, but it cost $3.5 billion a year. she served her purpose well and now we are going to be able to go to space with more people and do more things to benefit the future of humanity. >> for old-timers seeing the space shuttles retire to a museum is a sad thing, but it's progress too isn't it? >> that's right. as we develop technology, we have to go further. the space shuttle was built with

1970s technology. it's an interesting aspect today as "enterprise" lands. i was talking to leonard nemoy and he hasn't seen the shuttle since 1976. you think about in that history what we have developed. and if we're going to have the star trek future, we need to use today's technology to go back into space and be able to take us farther. it's an exciting time. >> you talked to mr. spok? >> mr. spok is here. he's in new york and he's looking to see "enterprise" again after more than 30 years. >> there is a connection right? the shuttle was named after the star trek's "enterprise." >> that's right. that's why he's here. when the space shuttle was sdwop developed and the first was being named, there was a massive write in campaign and fans of

"star trek" got her named "enterprise." he wants to be here as she comes to new york. >> i'm going to have jason carol chase him down. not that we don't like talking to him. >> no, no. of course. that's why i brought it up. he'll be on the stage with me later, but he's a surprise guest. >> lori, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we can't wait until we can see the shuttle again. we will see it soon. thank you for joining us. >> we're going to take a quick break and be back with more after this. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003.

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good morning to you. i'm carol costello. another big day for space geeks. the shuttle "enterprise" riding atop a 747. zimmerman bomb shell. he told the court he was broke, has $200,000 in the bank. his bond could be revoked today. passengers kept on a plane for more than three hours. the cause? a bug bed bite. newsroom begins right now. space shuttle "enterprise" making its final flight. it's traveling from washington to new york city, its ultimate home. the "enterprise" is the granddaddy of the shuttle program.

it served as the prototype. in case you missed it, here's the shuttle's departure from dulles just outside of washington. that happened about 30 minutes ago. the takeoff was a little behind schedule, but we have no reason to believe the delay will affect the plans. they will do low flyovers around the statue of liberty. we're following "enterprise" every step of the way. reynolds wolf is here with me tracking the flight. john zarrella is live in miami. let's head out to jfk first. that's where "enterprise" will finally land. jason carol is there. set the scene for us. >> reporter: there's a lot of excited people who are starting to arrive. hundreds of invited guests, school children coming in from new jersey, connecticut, and of course, here in new york we'll be on hand as well as guests

from nasa. in fact, i have one with me here right now. this is susan maranoff. a lot of anticipation and excitement act "enterprise" finally making its way to new york. >> it's a wonderful day. i think the buildup has been great. even with it being here or supposed to have been here monday or wednesday, that makes it that much more exciting. >> it's windy out here today. 30 miles an hour gusts. but everything is a go. >> we had weather check this is morning. a little breezy, but we'll deal with it. >> an exciting day for new york city. not so exciting for the folks in houston who were hoping to get their hands on a shuttle. tell us how that came about. >> there were 29 originally who responded. three years ago, we were asked to respond to a second one.

the field went down to 21 institutions. but clearly, we all wanted this so badly. there were certain parameters. new york has a fabulous population. we're going to be able to really explore even greater depth now our science and engineering program. we're just so excited it will be coming to new york. >> i was explaining that folks in the northeast, it's exciting to see a shuttle. folks in florida are used to it. but here in the northeast, just give us a sense of what it's like for those people here to see a shuttle so up close. >> you're spot on. this is going to be the largest nasa artifact north of baltimore. so for kids to be able to come and see this where they would have to travel miles and miles to go anywhere else. it's exciting for school trips and universities. we're just so excited that we now have this representation in the northeast. >> many questions about what the

future of space travel will be. for the past three decades, the shuttle program has defined what nasa is. so i'm curious how do you think nasa will be defined in the future? >> this is the reason it's been so important for mu seems to display the shuttle. this is going to make people think. what are we going to do going forward? is it going to be public again? we have to figure it out. we know we're going to figure it out. >> maybe some day the next space artifact will be something from a private company going into lower orbit. >> you never know. >> an exciting day for us today. thank you very much for being with us. so carol, the flight took off at about 9:24 a.m. expected to take around 30 to 40 minutes. . will do a low fly over over the hudson river, downtown, so a lot of people even though they weren't invited here to be with

us, just average new yorkers will get an opportunity to go out their doors or go downtown and get an opportunity to see something historic. a space shuttle flying in its own way over the city. >> we keep showing shots of the verson know bridge. we're tracking the flight of the space shuttle "enterprise." we believe it's somewhere over south jersey and soon it will appear in this area. in all its glory. >> the weather is going to cooperate for people on the ground. i'm sure it's breezy. we have had winds around 30 miles per hour or so. some fair weather cumulus. but the pilots that are right now at the controls of the 747 are among the best on the planet. they could make this flight blindfolded with their eyes closed. they are among the very, very best. but it should be a fairly interesting time to see it come

in. the weather will be great for spectators on the ground. they will be lining up to see this come in. it should be something to behold. but the weather will be picture perfect. >> you talk about the future of space travel. these moments that we are lucky enough to witness history. you think back on your own personal history and i can remember watching the first man walk on the moon at home with my dad. i'm sure many americans are feeling, wow, we hope we can have those memories one day again. let's head to miami now and check in with john zarrella. you have been covering the space program, like, forever? >> yeah, well not quite since man first landed on the moon. not that old. but i was a little boy too. and i remember it the same way you do. i had a reel to reel recorder and i was recording the audio of --

>> i was too! >> walter cron kite's narration. but you were just talking with jason carol about that whole controversy and you're right when you said they were down right angry in houston. houston thought they should get a shuttle. they thought it would be "enterprise" because besides florida there's no other place synonymous with space flight. nasa said we want the shuttles in places where they will get the maximum exposure. new york, florida, and out in california. so that was a lot of what went into the decision-making process to put "enterprise" in new york. and you're also talking about leonard nemoy. there was this photo we found of the "star trek" cast stand iingn

front of shuttle "enterprise" as it rolled out from california where it was built at the skunk works factory that they call it there. there's the photo. that's the crew. you know who is not in that picture? who is not in that picture? >> is captain kirk in there? >> he's not there. he must have been out looking for hotel deals that day. i don't know. >> working for hogwire.com. he couldn't make it. if you get nemoy on with you today, ask him where kirk was. that's a great photo of "enterprise" with the cast there. >> i did want to ask you this it because lori brought this up. there's a reason leonard is there. there's a reason that the space shuttle is doing these flyovers

of major cities. this is an orchestrated pr campaign by nasa. >> yeah. there's no question about it. we talked about the fact that nasa right now is in this downturn. they are in between programs. they went through this after apollo. before shuttle there was a down period as well. but in this case, perhaps it's a little scarier times. budgets are tighter. nasa wants to make sure it keeps its funding. a week from monday in your show, space x is going to attempt a launch and rendezvous with the international space station. the future of lower orbit, commercial companies. it's a huge, huge undertaking. first time ever if it's accomplished that a commercial company will do anything remotely close with this. that's the future. the future for nasa is, as lori put it, is deep space

exploration. building a rocket that will take humans out to an asteroid and eventually on to mars. it takes a lot of money. nasa did not have enough money to continue flying space shuttle and build this next generation rocket. thus the approach. turn lower orbit into commercial companies. let nasa continue with what they do best. >> truth be told, john, if nasa had been more nimble with future plans, they wouldn't be having this today. >> there's no question about it. not just nasa. a lot of the blame falls, you know, at the steps of congress as well. moneys were not appropriated. decisions were made back in the bush administration to do away with the shuttle, to go to a new rocket design, and then that rocket design was actually the

constellation program, was then scrubbed by the obama administration. there's been all of these fits and starts and changes. so there's plenty of blame if you want to blame to go around where nasa is now. and as one astronaut put it to me, not that long ago, he said, listen, we have got to have smoke and fire to inspire young people, to inspire america again to get the funding to do the things we need to do. and that may come in 2014 when nasa finally flies a capsule out to about 5,000 miles and reenter it into earth. high speed like from an asteroid or from mars. but they have to do that. >> we're going to talk more about this. but we have to take a break now as we await the space shuttle "enterprise" to come back into our camera's range as it flies over the hudson river. we'll be back in a minute.

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passenger may have monkey pocks. passengers were quarantined for three hours in chicago. >> the captain comes on and say this may sound strange, but we will be quarantined for a moment. apparently someone is on board and they may or may not have something. and we're taking pictures. does it look like this? no, it didn't look like that. >> they checked the passenger out and she just had some bites from bedbugs. big losses in europe and asia are cutting profits in half for ford. vehicle sales slipped 2% worldwide. alabama's governor has kicked off a prayer service for tornado victims. a twister tore through the state a year ago today. killed 50 people in tuscaloosa and levelled more than 7,000

homes. the city is still trying to rebuild today. a bomb shell in the case against george zimmerman. the man who shot and killed trayvon martin isn't broke. he has $200,000. something zimmerman's attorney did not spell out at his bond hearing. that means a judge today could revoke zimmerman's bond. $200,000 came from zimmerman supporters who donated to his website. his attorney who said he thought his client had no money spoke exclusively with anderson cooper. >> i'm not certain he thought in some sense they were available to him because even after the bond was granted, it was the family who was trying to come up with enough money for the bond. and i guess if they thought they had easy access to it, they could have used that. but now that i'm awire of that, we're going to deal with it in a much more transparent way. probably bring in someone like an accountant to assist me with administering it and deal with

it openly. >> there was a court hearing this morning. we understand it's now over. what happened? >> essentially what the judge decided was that he needs to know more information about this money. where did it come from? and who had control when they were talking about whether george had money or not. it's been put off for now. the judge will rule at another time. the state has asked that bond, as a result, be increased for george zimmerman. we'll see. they didn't want it revoked, which would have been george zimmerman would have to go back. >> they really wanted a million set for bond. >> they said they were indigent. there were three family members, his mom, dad, and wife, who went on the stand under oath and didn't know how much money had been raised. now this raises questions about were they being completely honest. george zimmerman wasn't lying

because he wasn't under oath and never asked specifically about those websites. so for the time being, it just appears that he was slow to tell his attorney about it. >> so his parents also testified in court in that initial bond hearing. his wife testified. surely she knew about the money. but she said they had no money. she's going to school to become a nurse. >> here's where the issue comes up. the attorney says that part of that money was used for his bond. and also part of that money was used for living expenses for george zimmerman because he couldn't go to work because of concerns for his safety. so if money was being spent, you'd think the family would know something about where it's coming from. so for them to say they didn't know under oath, that could be an issue. >> especially if the judge says he's reviewing it. martin savage, thanks so much.

the agent who led water boarding is talking about it for the first time. jose rodriguez says that waterboarding and enhanced interrogation techniques paid off with valuable information that saved lives. the techniques amounted to torture according to some. he talked about the least-cooperative detainee of all. they waterboarded him 80 times in a month. >> this is an individual who didn't give a rat's [ bleep ] about having water poured on his face. >> he didn't believe you were going to kill him? >> he would use his fingers to count the number of seconds because he knew that in all likelihood, we would stop at ten. so this doesn't sound like a person who is afraid of dying. >> if he's sitting there

counting off, he knows you're not going to kill him. then why do it? what's the point? >> i think that the effect of waterboarding and sleep depravation and everything else that was done eventually got to him. >> so what happens? does he break down? does he weep? does he fall apart? >> he gets a good night's sleep. he gets -- by the way, he was very heavy when he came to us. he lost 50 pounds. >> his insure, like people in the hospital? >> yes. it was part of the starve techniqu techniques. >> so sleep dep revags, dietary manipulation, i mean this is orwell yan stuff. the united states doesn't do that. >> well, we do. >> the obama administration ended the enhanced interrogation program. rodriguez says that was a mistake. he's also criticized the use of drones to kill terrorists rather

than capture them. the space shuttle "enterprise" on its way to new york city. we'll bring you live coverage when cnn newsroom continues. t

you have to admit this is an endeering sight. the school children waiting for the space shuttle to make its big landing at jfk. as you know, the space shuttle "enterprise" on top a 747 took off from dulles about an hour ago. it's on its way to new york city. it will fly past landmarks. we believe it's somewhere over

south jersey making its way to the ver sa no bridge. soon we'll see it flying by, but not quite yet. so we'll get to other news first. now is your chance to talk back on twitter. the question for you this morning. does vice president joe biden hurt or help the president? they love that joe biden connects with blue collar americans like this joe biden with his 2012 campaign catch phrase. >> if you're looking for a bumper sticker, it's pretty simple. osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. >> but there's another joe biden. the gaffe-prone biden. the ones americans love to poke fun of because he make s it so easy. in the same speech, he did it again. >> now is the time to heed the timeless advice from teddy

roosevelt. speak softly and carry a big stick. i promise you the president has a big stick. >> that looked like a million off-colored tweets and special honors on late night tv. >> while discussing the u.s. policy on iran today, joe biden said that president obama "has a big stick." in related news, joe biden is now banned from the white house steam room. >> you have to wonder if biden's gaffes overshadow the good stuff. according to research, biden's approval rating was 38% in january. that was down from a 50% approval rating in november of 2009. just saying. so the talk back question today. does vice president joe biden help or hurt the president?

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i'm glad i got flood insurance. fred, you should look into it. i'm a risk-taker. [ female announcer ] only flood insurance covers floods. visit floodsmart.gov/risk to learn your risk. 10:30 eastern time. welcome back. the space shuttle "enterprise" is a couple minutes south of jfk. these are shots from earlier. when it hits new york city, it's going to fly by several landmarks first. the shuttle will eventually be moved into its new home at a museum there on the hudson river. space shuttle scheduled to touch down at jfk when is where we find jason carol. good morning, jason. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. as we have been standing here way off in the distance, i'm not

sure if my photographer can catch it. that's it. that's the space shuttle way out there. that's what we're being told making a pass. it will get a lot closer between now and a few minutes. it's expected to land here at jfk. lots of excitement here as you can imagine. hundreds of invited guests standing by and waiting to see the shuttle land. also folks such as leonard nimoy. we have the real deal. we have major general joe angle. he was one of the first pilots of the "enterprise." this has got to be an incredibly exciting day for you as we're just minutes away from seeing the "enterprise" land here. >> it really is. and thank you for letting me be here and having me on the show today. >> we were talking earlier. you are from houston. and i know some folks in houston were disappointed their city was not chosen to have a shuttle.

but there aren't enough shuttles to go around. >> there's so many places that wanted to have a shuttle on display. just a shame there weren't more of them to go around. you'll do a wonderful job. >> reporter: as we're minutes away from seeing the shuttle landing, it will get a lot closer, tell us what it's like being up there and flying an aircraft like a space shuttle. >> it's a wonderful feeling. it's a very gratifying feeling for someone who's devoted their career to test flying like myself and all the other astronauts have done. to get a flight in a space shuttle is just the culmination of your entire professional career. >> reporter: we're going to try to get more shots of that shuttle. it's still a little bit far away, but what do you think is going through the pilots' minds who are on board? >> they are very busy in the

cockpit right now. we talked with them down in washington, d.c. when they brought "discovery" up and loaded it. i know the crew members very well. they said they are very busy in the cockpit. they have no idea how exciting it was for the people on the ground until they got on the ground and watched the news. >> reporter: so much has been said about the future of space shuttle. when you think about it, nasa has been defined by the shuttles and now they are no more. they are going into museums. how do you think nasa will be defined in the future. >> the programs that nasa is involved in now and will be in the future. the international space station is our big focus right now. continuing the research and development and the testing that's going on in the spags station is going to make it possible for us to make long-duration flights to mars and other destinations that we

will be going to. we're developing the capability on board the international space station right now. >> reporter: hopefully the interest in space station will still be there. just a few minutes ago, we were standing here watching the little kids who were dressed up in the blue nasa uniforms. you said you should be getting a shot of them. that's going to be the future of travel. that was an inspirational moment as well. >> that is our future. the young boys and girls who are beginning to get their interest. not just in aviation, but in science and math. they are getting motivated right now. that's so terribly important. >> reporter: hopefully the inspiration continues as well. want to thank you for being with us. what a pleasure. thank you so much. once again, major general joe angle, one of the first original pilots of "enterprise" as we're just a few minutes away from seeing "enterprise" land here at jfk. >> it's such a beautiful sight,

jason. we can probably see this better than you. we're feeling really lucky right now. "enterprise," the first woman who command a space shuttle is on the phone with us. we were just talking about getting young people excited about the space program. john glen was such a hero. we don't have those kinds of figures so much anymore. >> i think that we will again. you saw earlier today or talked about the power of a write in campaign where the constitution's name was changed to "enterprise" because of the number of people that wrote in. if we write or congressmen and congresswomen, don't write to nasa. we get tons of letters and we agree with you. but if you write to elected leaders and say this is important to the future of our country to keeping our country

great. having a strong space program. i would challenge the american citizens to write in and tell your lawmakers you want to have a strong space program. nasa is working on it, but it helps to have the funding and the help of the american citizens behind us. >> it's not the greatest economy right now so i think many americans probably understand why we're on stand down as far as the space program goes nowadays, but you do mention that we need to get young people more excited about a space program and that means getting them excited in math and science. and maybe if they could believe they could become an astronaut and explore space, maybe that would renew the interest in this country in the subjects of math and science. >> you are exactly right. that's exactly what it does. the space program, you know, i like at when i was in fourth grade. when i first decided i wanted to be an astronaut, i was reading about the jem new york astronauts, and i wanted to be

one of them. we have astronauts that go to the space station. now they are being launched by the russians. some day we hope, we're saying maybe 2016, we'll be launching our own astronauts again. but it's important to have united states astronauts launching from our country because our young people see this and say i want to do that some day. i know i need to be good in math and science and need to study technical fields because that way not only could i fly, but you could also work in mission control and help design these new spacecrafts. so i agree with you 100%. and i think our teachers are doing a good job integrating space into the math and science curricul curriculum. >> when you saw the little kids waiting at jfk dressed in their space suits and they are excitedly waiting, what do you

think? >> they motivate me. and i still go out and talk to schools. it's important for astronauts to do that because i get a lot out of that myself. and it energizes me and makes me want to talk up the program and the things that i have done. i think it's really neat and good for the kids. >> we talked about this a little before about how nasa has orchestrated these flyovers of major cities and past american landmarks. it's sort of like this orchestrated public relations campaign. is it effective in your mind? >> well, i'm not sure what you're asking there, but i think nasa does a pretty good job of public relations. nasa has a limited budget so we reach out to the private media to help us with the coverage. you're doing a great job this morni morning. i've been watching it all morning. you're doing a great job and

keep it up. i would say getting -- just take a look at the activities taking place on the international space station. i would say most americans don't know what's going on up there. but there is quite a bit of research on the human body and developing new technologies. these are the things that our astronauts are doing to help us have a better future. whether it's in health or technology or exploration in general. and it's pretty exciting. even those things can inspire young people. >> we're bringing these pictures because it's part of our american history. people are really intrigued by this. you can see the people watching for this thing to pass over. we're going to continue our coverage after a short break. when you have diabetes...

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bill in the house that has just started to get underway for debate between democrats and republicans in the house. so they have issued this veto threat because the difference between the democratic bill and the republican bill is how to pay for the price tag of extending these student loan interest rates that are set to double, to go from 3.4% to 6.8%, on july 1st. republicans are proposing eliminating, as they put it, a slush fund created by obama care. this is a discretionary spending fund. it was created by health care reform. and democrats are hitting at them saying you're going to be targeting, in part, things for women's health. testing like mammograms and that kind of thing. democrats are proposing a different way to pay for it. they want to do what they call eliminating a corporate tax loophole, but republicans counter that this is something that would hurt small business.

this veto threat ramping everything up and we'll see a lot of debate on this going for awhile. >> so what they are trying to find about $6 billion to pay for this plan? and the $6 billion in the republican plan comes out of the president's health care law? >> yes. and i actually have spoken with a spokesperson for speaker boehner who said president obama, they are saying this is a fund that the president over time zeros out over time in his own budget. so president obama is desperate for a fight, in their words. you can tell the words are just going to be slung back and forth on this between the white house and republicans. >> thank you. we're following the flight of "enterprise." i see jason carroll at jfk. he has a special guest with him. we'll bring them both to you when newsroom continues. ...guys.

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those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. is expected to touch down very soon. jason carroll is there. and i'm so jealous. you have mr. spock with you. >> reporter: that's right. you asked for it, carol. i remember listening to that earlier. you wanted me to track him down. we have tracked him down. leonard nimoy, this must be an

incredibly exciting day for you. >> it feels like a reunion. the first time i saw this ship was in 1976. the hangar doors opened and out rolled "enterprise." >> reporter: we have a picture of that somewhere. i think you were wearing a blue pantsu pantsuit. >> reporter: your style has improved greatly. >> we were all there. the cast and the producer, and they were playing the theme from "star trek." . >> reporter: it's thavnks to th fans that it was named after the show. >> they got letters from fans. they convinced the president that the ship should be named proo "enterprise" and that's what came about. >> reporter: when you look at "enterprise" landing here now just a few minutes from now, you think about it's going to a museum, but you can't help but

think about the future. when you watch "star trek", it's about the vision of what the future might be. what do you think the future will be? >> "star trek" was always optimistic about the future. one of the most important things it offered was to explain the possibilities of science and to excite people about the ideas of being scientists and engineers. >> reporter: you'll be speaking to the crowd. what are you going to tell them? >> i'm going to talk about how the "enterprise" name came about and what it meant to us that day when it was first rolled out. to be part of history like that, it's a great day. >> reporter: a beautiful day. a great day for so many people here. we only have you for a few minutes. i have to ask. you have seen a lot of the young

kids coming in. i'm not sure if they recognize you. but what is it like for you to see the younger kids? those dressed in a nasa uniform? >> it's a real treat. to be able to be involved with something that has spanned so many generations as "star trek" has, it's great. >> reporter: you continue to inspire people even to this day. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> reporter: again, leonard nimoy. we tracked him down. >> i admire you. in the new movie, you had a prominent role. i enjoyed it. >> reporter: we were talking about that. carol costello, we were talking about the new movie. he did a great job and we were talking about that just before. will you be in another movie? >> we're talking.

>> reporter: talking, carol. hopefully. >> fantastic. thank you so much. this thing is just about to land, jason carroll. can people see it from where you're standing? i think jason carroll is saying his good-byes to leonard. when he gets his an ifb so he can hear me, jason, do you have that thing back in? >> reporter: i do. >> can you see the shuttle now? >> reporter: i cannot. an announcement were made that the pilots had a good time flying the shuttle by the hudson and above the air and space museum. we're just about nine minutes away. we should be seeing the shuttle very soon. >> all right. we're going to take a break. we'll be right back. a luxury car with a standardt power moon roof, standard keyless access, and standard leather-trimmed seats, then your choice is obvious.

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you're looking at live pictures of the boeing 747 with the space shuttle "enterprise" on its back. it's about seven minutes away from jfk where it will land to the delight of many school children who can't wait to get a glimpse of this thing. jason carroll has been out there all day long. john zarrella is with us from florida. he's been covering the space program forever. what goes through your mind? >> what goes through my mind is we're looking at the end of an era. we in our lifetime will never see another vehicle like this. a vehicle that's launched vertically into orbit and can

return, fly down like an airplane and land. anywhere in the world, people knew that a space shuttle came from the united states. it was that kind of an iconic vehicle. there's no mistaking it. it's the space shuttle. it wasn't like a rocket capsule. there's an interesting fact a lot of people may not recall or remember. the russians actually built a space shuttle. it flew a couple times. never into orbit. then they abandoned the program. it sits outside of moscow i believe in star city right now. exposed to the elements. these shuttles are going to be in beautiful museums around the world. but as you watch it come in there, we're going to do this again in the fall when "endeavor" goes out to california and when "atlantis"

is trucked down the road over to the visitor complex at the kennedy space center. but it's the end of an era that in our lifetimes, we will never see another vehicle with this kind of capability to fly astronauts to the space station and bring them back. but it's the beginning. we have to move on. there's a new era ahead. there it goes by the statue of liberty. what an absolutely spectacular shot and certainly appropriate. >> i think my heart stopped for a minute. that was a beautiful picture. just unbelievable. jason carroll, hundreds of people are wait iing for a glime of this thing. it's going down the hudson now. who is in the crowd? >> reporter: there are so many folks here. i'm going to give you an opportunity to get a look at this. look at the crush of media that's moved into the bleachers there. they are jammed on both sides. then you have just as many folks

located on the other side as well. they made an announcement that the pilots are having a real good time flying over new york city. they have headed out to the south, but they are expected to be here at jfk just about seven minutes from now. so everyone has been waiting out here in the cold and in the wind and just waiting for "enterprise" to arrive. just minutes away. >> we're going to take a break. we'll be back. you think you take off all your make-up before bed. but do you really? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover erases 99% of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. can your makeup remover do that? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover.

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shuttle "enterprise" set to land in four or five minutes. that does it for me. thank you for joining us. i'm carol costello. >> i'm kyra phillips. it is 11:00 on the east coast. you're looking at live pictures now. the final flight of a space shuttle that never flew into space. we're talking about "enterprise." it's a prototype build i