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would-be al qaeda suicide bomber turns out to be a mole. he infiltrated al qaeda in yemen, volunteered to blow up a plane headed to the united states. instead, he handed over the new and improved al qaeda underwear bomb and is in the hands of the fbi. what authorities do not know is who leaked the top secret operation and why. some say future spy separatioop could be in jeopardy. russia's newest civilian passenger jet, one of the planes took off from an airport in indonesia on a demonstration flight. it was supposed to return after 30 minutes. it did not and now there has been no contact with the pilot. at least 37 people were on board. there's no word on what has happened. same-sex couples in north carolina are facing uncertainty today after voters approved a constitutional ban on gay marriages. >> let no one define your
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marriage for you. >> opponents say the ban amounts to discrimination. the amendment defines marriage as between a man and a woman. the head of the group that supported the amendment says, quote, we are not anti-gay. we are pro-marriage. 61% voted for the amendment, 39% voted against it. and a bomb went off in syria today near a convoy carrying united nations observers. none of the u.n. team was hurt but several syrian security people went to the hospital. senator dick lugar delivering a warning now to the man who defeated him in indiana's republican primary. in a written statement released after the landslide loss, he predicted that the tea party favorite would not achieve much as a lawmaker if he refuses to compromise with the democrats.
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>> i hope to build a conservative majority in the united states senate so bipartisanship becomes democrats joining republicans to roll back the side of government, reduce the bureaucracy, lower taxes and get america moving again. >> a woman who was at the forefront of creating and promoting john edwards' public image, she is now revealing extremely private conversations she had with the former presidential candidate. speechwriter wendy button says she urged edwards to admit to the world that he had fathered a child with rielle hunter and used donors' money to cover it up. diane dimond is joining us. we know you have the inside scoop of what took place with this woman on the stand today. what did she say? >> reporter: well, wendy button was on for some cross-examination, which we can talk about in a minute, but
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jennifer palmieri is here. she is with the white house. she's a deputy communications director in the obama administration, but she used to work for john edwards beginning in 2004. she gave us a real inside look at what a campaign does when it knows that bad news is on its way. she was the press secretary for john edwards at the time. that the "national enquirer" called and said, hey, we have got this story, and we want some reaction. she told about internal conversations that she and other staffers had with mr. and mrs. edwards at the time, and they sort of decided, well, you know, it's the "national enquirer," we don't really have to answer them. they did give them a little no comment and it's not true, but they didn't really answer the "national enquirer." and she said, i said to john, i said to him at some point don't think that if this is true that you can survive it. and a few days later in a hotel
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room in dubuque, iowa, they were on the campaign trail, and she told this story of elizabeth edwards having an absolute meltdown. she was called to the room to help her friend. she was very close to elizabeth edwards. she was called to the room because mrs. edwards realized rielle hunter was not out of the picture, that their good friends lisa and fred baron, in fact, had been shopping with her and had brought her sort of back into the fold. it was a very, very emotional moment, she said, and then, suzanne, what about the second big "national enquirer" story where it came out that rielle was having an affair, rielle was pregnant with his baby, rielle was living in chapel hill, north carolina, driving the car that they provided for her. and she was asked, jennifer palmieri was asked what was your reaction to that "national enquirer" story? they got a heads up on it. and she said, relatively mind-blowing. i was pretty shocked at what they were about to report.
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another staffer went to tell john edwards what was going to be said. that staffer came back and said john edwards said to me, don't you think that baby could be andrew's? another staffer came to her and said that he understood the father was a married man of three children in new jersey. so right away there was a flurry of activity and lots of confusion over who the real baby daddy was. >> you know, diane, it's really bizarre to hear you recount all these stories. i know jen palmieri really well and a lot of these edwards' staffers who had no clue at the time this was going on and then later didn't want to answer our questions about all the controversy that was happening. didn't really come out until later on in the game in the campaign. do we know if -- how edwards is responding? is he actually in the courtroom expressing any kind of concern about all of these staffers who are coming forward with their stories? >> reporter: you know, i must tell you that i think, my
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opinion, is john edwards is looking very pale these days. he looks like he's dropped some weight. his suits are hanging on him loosely. his mom and dad are not here today. so i don't know if he thought maybe this palmieri story would upset them or -- they're 80 years old. so i think it's taking a toll on the entire edwards' family . 30-year-old daughter cate sits in the front row every day. his reaction has gone from nothing to smiling along with witnesses as he recalls what they're talking about to yesterday when his chief speechwriter wendy button was on the stand, he began to poke at his eyes and wipe -- he was really upset because wendy button got him. he confided things to wendy button and said, how am i supposed to respond? give me a statement. and wendy button is very empathetic on the stand, and you could tell she felt his pain and still feels his pain. she began to weep late today --
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or late in her testimony today. >> real quickly, just wrapping this up, when you say he was doing this kind of wiping his eyes, do you believe he was really crying? >> reporter: no. i think he was probably emotional. i think he was upset. there are times that he does a thing with his hands like this and covers part of his face. i think that's a human -- normal human reaction to being just embarrassed. >> all right. diane dimond, all the insight from the courthouse. thank you so much. here is a rundown of some of the stories we're covering over the next hour. a victory for opponents of same-sex marriage in north carolina. >> it's a stupendous moment for marriage. it's a stupendous moment for north carolina. it's a stupendous moment for america. >> hear why some black religious leaders say that that attitude actually hurts everyone's rights. and a police beating that left a schizophrenic homeless man dead causing a lot of
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outrage among mental health experts. we'll talk to one of them about how that death might have actually been prevented. and then should the head of yahoo! be fired for padding his resume? >> it raises questions about his integrity and that's why this is a big deal. >> why some of the ceos employees say he's got to go. you can watch cnn live on your computer. head to cnn.com/live. o unleash my inner cowboy. instead i got heartburn. [ horse neighs ] hold up partner. prilosec isn't for fast relief. try alka-seltzer. it kills heartburn fast. yeehaw!
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between a man and a woman and it is only legally recognized union in north carolina. joining us is the reverend william barber pastor of green leaf church. we had a chance to speak yesterday about this. first of all, what is your reaction? what is your response? because you felt like this would discriminate against not only gay couples but also against children of unmarried couples as well. >> clearly the family lawyers have said that this is bad public policy. we are concerned i'm the naacp president and a poster, that when you begin to put people's constitutional right up for a public vote, however you feel morally about the issue, that's a dangerous precedent and especially when it's being driven by the very people who are trying to suppress the vote, who are trying to do voter id., pass the most aggressive restricting plan we have seen. on the other hand, they want to use a popular vote to codify
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discrimination, hate, and division in our constitution. >> why do you suppose there weren't more people in your state who heard your view and agreed with it because it was slapped down pretty much by a pretty wide margin. >> they predicted 80/20, about 60 points. what you saw in the closing days, the more people knew who was behind this, the national organization of marriage said this was a strategy that divided allies. once they understood this was not about same-sex marriage, this was about constitutionality, will you use a state's rights agenda to trump the 14th amendment, the numbers started trending up. so that's a powerful story in this. now people are saying, wait a minute, the same people that cut public education, they cut billions of dollars from medicaid that are trying to roll back health care reform, are the same people behind this. it's a dangerous trend particularly in the south. >> reverend, you actually --
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there's a split along the black clergy on this issue of same-sex marriage and whether it's a human rights issue or whether or not it's an issue of sexuality. how do you convince your fellow african-american clergy to accept your point of view because clearly it's being rejected. >> i would disagree a little bit in the sense that the night before the vote, we had a gathering of five different cities, five ministerial alliances, some who said we disagree with same-sex marriage with a personal religious basis but that should not be up for a vote. that's voting on religion and we don't do this in this country. they also stood against this amendment. you didn't have any major african-american denominations come out against this. many of them in coalition with us, they understood clearly a religious question is one thing. we have freedom of or freedom from religion. that should have never been the question. the question is do you believe we should target a minority and by popular vote undermine their
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fundamental constitutional right, equal protection under the law. that's a serious question for this nation and a question for all north carolinians and all americans, not just blacks. >> reverend barber, appreciate your time and your perspective. >> thank you. >> thank you for being in atlanta with us as well. >> thank you. a schizophrenic man is beaten to death by police in orange county, california. now mental health experts hope this is going to draw attention to this problem of the mentally ill homeless like no other case has. get ahead of it! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defend against digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. hit me! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. i get my cancer medications through the mail. now washington, they're looking at shutting down post offices coast to coast. closing plants is not the answer. they want to cut 100,000 jobs. it's gonna cost us more, and the service is gonna be less.
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>> [ bleep ]. >> start pumping, dude. >> that is simply how it began. >> okay! no! no! >> that homeless man, he was pleading for his life as police officers beat him. he died last july. this was five days after this beating. this video is a trickle part of the evidence that's used at a hearing to determine if two california officers should stand trial for his death. both of the officers have pleaded not guilty. rusty felix is the executive director of the california council of mental health agencies. he's joining from sacramento. this is so painful just to even see this man struggle for his life, and i know that this has had an incredible impact on your
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community, advocates for the mentally ill. what are you hoping that this video can do for the community? >> well, i think there's two things. the first and most important and the law enforcement officials, the sheriffs in the jails and the prison guards all agree with us. why are these people homeless? why are they having to deal with police in the first place? why aren't they getting the medical care they need? these are not criminals. these are people who have a medical condition. why isn't the funding there? they've done studies on people who are homeless with severe mental illness in new york, san francisco, and other cities. every study comes to the same conclusion. the amount of money the government, local, state, and federal, has to spend on the hospitalizations and incarcerations of people who are homeless with mental illness is more than what it would cost to give them all the care they need, and yet it is always an uphill battle in budget processes. we're hoping maybe this will be a wake-up call to our legislature in sacramento and to
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others to say, let's make sure there is the funding so that no one winds up homeless as a result of an untreated mental illness. >> there are a lot of mentally ill people who have to fend for themselves? >> yes. our best estimate is that 1 out of 3 homeless people is there not due to their otherwise impoverished conditions but primarily due to an untreated severe mental illness. they've not been able to get the treatment they need. >> when you soo he this video and you look at what has taken place here, how should the police have handled this situation? do they have training when they could recognize that somebody is mentally ill that they're dealing with? >> first of all, the best thing is to have a special unit that is not just a police officer or a team of police officers but is teamed with social workers and ideally even a former homeless person, someone who the person
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on the street can relate to who is trained specifically in how to deescalate a situation like this. there clearly needs to be universal training of all law enforcement personnel and supposedly the police had that, but the question is why wasn't that special unit called? why isn't that special unit with a special team trained to deescalate the situation because even with the training, you can't expect every police officer to know exactly what to do, although clearly what happened here i can't imagine that this is what the training taught. >> can you talk a little bit about beyond the place training here. if you're on the street and you suspect somebody has a mental illness, that hear homeless or wandering on the street, how do you think people should react? how should they respond? should they try to reach out and help somebody if they don't have the understanding about mental illness? >> unfortunately, actually, the greatest strategy is that the when people try to help, they often are dealing with
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panhandling and asking for money and statistics show that 90% of that money will go to supporting a drug addiction or alcohol. what they should do is call people that can help. thereto should be a help line for mental health care and, you know, if the funding was there, they would begin the outreach prosect and the intake and be able to get the person the help they need. that's what should happen. the problem is we haven't created the funding situation to make that happen on a consistent basis. >> so, rusty -- >> they shouldn't be afraid of them. >> give us one takeaway if you can, something we can all use or learn from this experience if we see someone who is struggling, who is mentally ill on the street. what should we do? what can we do? >> well, i think, you know, certainly you want to call 911 and get help, but you don't want to call 911 that's going to create the police escalation. you want to treat it as a medical emergency and make sure they're taken into a medical intake and that you start a medical process because that's
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where they need to be. >> all right. rusty selix, thank you so much. we hope people can learn from this tragic situation. well, you can go to school, you can work hard, slowly climb your way up to the top, or you could pad your resume. we'll hear from the fallout that is rocking the ceo of a tech giant, up next.
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is he only has that accounting degree. so there's this shareholder group, this activist group that found this out and publicized it last week, and it's interesting because in this age of social media and the internet, it's a wonder how he got away with this for so long. so far yahoo!'s director patty hart is stepping down. she's the first head to roll in this scandal. she is the one that actually hired scott thompson for this lie on his resume. but we spoke with one corporate recruiter who said it's really interesting how this even came about. just because when you hire such a high level executive, a very extensive background check is done by specialized search firms. >> you would think that would happen, that they would go through that kind of record. is he going to be forced do you think to step down? >> and that's really a good question. so far the pressure is certainly on him to do that.
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that activist shareholder group is pushing for him to be fired. one senior yahoo! executive tells us that thompson at this point has lost the confidence 6 his employees. it's tough to lead a company like yahoo! if you have lost the confidence of your employees. you have to think about yahoo!. yahoo! has been through three different ceos in three years, so yahoo! has really had a rough ride of it itself. >> alison, thank you. appreciate it. we have some amazing pictures to show you. scientists have discovered massive sunspots which could cause actually huge flares affecting the earth. we're going to tell you how. google has made its mark in the internet world and on the fortune 500 list. 39-year-old larry page co-founded the company in 1998 while pursuing a ph.d. at sanford university.
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there's a storm raging right now. it is a big one. it could very well mess up all our lives. it's way out in space. it's raging on the sun. it's shooting big solar flares at all of us. power grids could go down, radios could go haywire. that's the bad stuff. good stuff, there are lots of gorgeous pictures.
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chad myers to make sense of all this. tell us what this is and how it could impact our lives. >> the sun is now at the peak of its -- almost the peak of its 11-year cycle. it is active now. there are sunspots out there. there are streaming charged particles coming toward the earth. aurora borealis, beautiful pictures there. the greens and blues and reds in the southern hemisphere and in the northern hemisphere. what we could see with this, it hasn't happened yet but it's there, it's the boy with the balloon in one hand and the needle in the other hand. if the boy pokes the needle, like poking the sun, you would see an enormous flare come out. it's called a coronal mass ejection. you can look at sunspots but you must do it perfectly and not directly. through a telescope with a filter that's dark. you can look through a welder's
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mask. do not look at the sun directly even during the dark -- at sunset when it starts to get hazy, please do not still look at it directly. also solar flares. those flares could send a signal to the earth, x-rays kind of toward the earth, and that could knock out some radios. radios to the airplanes that are over the pacific, over the atlantic, we won't know where those planes are or a while. it won't last forever, maybe a couple hours. the biggest thing that could happen to us if something like that happened, that was a coronal mass ejection, we could see this come toward the earth with particles of energy, protons, electrons, a magnetically charged stream that comes at us and that could charge some of our power lines that are out there and you may -- the power company may have to turn the power off for a while to protect us from that surge. you don't want surges coming into your house. that's all it is, and the gps could go wrong. if you can't drive anywhere
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without gps, you might be bad for one day. >> when could this happen? >> the boy has not poked the balloon yet, so the storm has not come out yet. if it shoots toward venus, we don't care. we only care when it's pointed toward us. for the next five days that big hole in the sun is pointed towards us. >> is the activity getting stronger or weaker. >> it will get stronger from april 2013 and then go back down toward the minimum to 6 1/2 to 7 years. >> i want you to stay there. we're going to talk about severe weather and the hurricane season as well. the hurricane season beginning officially in a couple weeks. we have some predictions to talk about how many named storms we can expect, but i want to bring in general russell honore. he commanded the military response to hurricane katrina in new orleans. good to see you, general, first of all. >> good to see you. >> you helped my family a great deal in new orleans and i
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appreciate that. this is an important time for you because i know you have a project where you want to make sure that people are prepared for this hurricane season. >> this is the time, this is the season to get prepared. >> yeah. >> don't wait until the last minute. we have mother's day coming up. you don't know what to get grandma, go out and get her a preparedness kit. this could keep her alive, keep grandpa alive. as opposed to giving her something they might not use. or get them a weather radio. be prepared. the best solution for facing large disasters such as hurricanes and surges, water surges as a result, is to be prepared. and the better prepared we are, the more we're going to survive. and we've got to end this notion that if something happens, the government is going to save me. we have to have people prepare themselves, prepare their families, and prepare their neighbors. >> we saw that in katrina. that didn't work out too well. you have a radio. what else do we need?
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what's the most important do you think? >> first aid kit. as we've seen with some of the storms that hit the midwest and the south, having a first aid kit handy in your evacuation pack or handy where you can get to it is important. another one is a copy of important documents. keep a copy of your marriage license, birth certificates, lease, home records, proof of marriage, all those become important during the recovery. because, suzanne, we must understand, anything built by man, can be destroyed by mother nature. we will never make it strong enough, so the best thing we can do is be prepared. as chad will tell you, in your home and in your businesses, and the government has to establish a program under homeland security and fema, the national preparedness plan signed by president obama, that's driving communities to be more prepared and to be resilient. >> chad, what are we expecting for this hurricane season? >> this is the rub, isn't it,
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general? because now we're saying all the agencies are saying probably a below normal hurricane season. maybe only nine storms, maybe only three hurricanes and one major storm or two major hurricanes. guess what? guess how many major hurricanes it takes to make the world an ugly place? one. one. we don't need nine. we don't need 20 like we had in 2004. one landfalling storm makes a dreadful year. so you have to watch it. don't just think it's going to be below normal, we're okay. we are not okay. >> we're kind of in the conundrum here because if the forecast is to be very aggressive, they say they're going to be five hurricanes to hit florida, guess what happens to tourism? the same thing to new orleans or the gulf. i think they have learned to be more reserved in their forecast. at the same time we know days in advance when hurricanes are coming, so people have time. they need to go on with their plans and not let that worry
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them. people that live in the region, in the eastern seaboard and the gulf, just need to be prepared. now is the time to prepare. >> is there any particular area that's vulnerable this go around? do we know, chad? >> everybody is becoming more vulnerable because everybody wants to live on the ocean. everybody wants an ocean view. in 1972 a hurricane that comes through doesn't hurt that many people. now we have huge giant condos from galveston all the way up to maine. nobody is protected. nobody is perfect but you always have these bays. you have tampa, you have new orleans. you still have mobile. anywhere where water can funnel in and push water up for a major surge, you get 8 to 10 foot surge in your house, your house is going to get knocked down, you're going to be in the attic, think about how that worked out. they were using hatchets and getting themselves out of their attics in new orleans because the water was coming up. they literally broke the roof to get up and out onto the roof to be saved. >> 42% of america lives within
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ten miles of water. >> really? >> and each time the census is taken, we move closer. the tidal sunrge that hit bilox was 30 feet high. the ground elevation in miami, florida, is nine feet at the highest point. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. if you live in a coastal area, you need to be prepared to evacuate and evacuate quickly when told to by the authorities. >> all right. general, appreciate it. your good tips during this very important time. don't want to be remiss without asking a quick question while we have you here. the disrupted terrorist plod we sa -- plot we saw, we know it came from a spy. do you think that's the more effective way in fighting terror as opposed to boots on the ground in afghanistan? >> that is the -- probably the best way to fight terrorism. as you know, we went into this war on 9/11 with very little human intelligence. after the cold war was over
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with, we divested ourselves thinking there would be no more war. as a result of that we lost our capability to do human intelligence the way we used to do it in the cold war. i used to run that program as a part of when i was on the joint staff, used to go over to the national security council as a deputy, and we bottomed out. when 9/11 came, you know, we were in a response mode. the thing that is surprising is that we're talking about it. that we were able to penetrate that organization. that surprised me. the next thing that surprised me is we were talking about how much we know about what they were doing. that surprised me. >> does that concern you that it's dangerous because we do know now and the enemy knows as well. >> people ask me let's talk about how many troops go into afghanistan. i won't talk about that because now we know the enemy has the capacity to go after those planes. and it's almost undetected. i think we need to limit the
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amount of conversation we have. i am surprised about our conversation about our association with the saudis and how effective they are. loose lips sink ships. there's too much talk going on. i don't think it's been design. i think it's some people getting out and trying to increase their google score. >> do you think it's coming from the obama administration inside the white house or coming from the saudi side? >> it could be coming from anywhere. but i think our people who control this information, it's up to the president to say knock it off. you understand? because we put people at risk. i don't think it's coming from the white house. i don't think it's coming from the president, but it's up to him to say stop it. there are law that is prevent us from talking about those things because it could help and abet the enemy's ability to come after our troops in the very vulnerable area. >> all right. general russell honore, good to see you. thank you, chad.
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i have spoken to leading gay rights advocates and leading democrats all of whom believe that he will come out in some way in favor of gay marriage. none of them can be certain what he will do, but it is their belief that the president has indicated by saying that he is evolving on this position that he would at some point before the election come out for gay marriage and that he will do it today. what i can tell you is if he doesn't come out for gay marriage today, he will disappoint the gay community which has backed him aggressively so far in this election with millions of dollars in donations. he will disappoint his gay and lesbian donors significantly, and he will have a problem on his hands in some portions of the gay community. now, they've supported him because he has been a strong supporter of gay and lesbian issues, but, again, this is a constituency that has not only backed him with votes and
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organization but millions of dollars so far, and he is walking a careful line on this issue. doesn't want to alienate constituencies that are uncomfortable on this issue. at the same time he is now in a box where he really has to clarify his position one way or another, and today is the day it seems he's going to have to do it. we're going to find out in probably just minutes where he's going to come down, suzanne. >> jessica, this comes at a time when we have actually seen some very prominent members of his cabinet come forward in support of same-sex marriage. we're talking about most recently vice president biden, secretary of education arne duncan, the secretary of hud shaun donovan. do we think this is kind of a lead-in to some sort of announcement that the president is going to be making here, that they've put these folks out there and gave them permission essentially to say, yes, we support this, perhaps paving the way for the president to make another statement, another evolution, if you will? >> reporter: you know, i actually don't think that's what happened here.
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i think that this was not the way -- fe does come out for gay marriage, that they would have wanted it to happen. because now it looks as though the president's hand was forced. when vice president biden came out with his statement on -- over the weekend, there was a lot of sloppiness at the white house trying to explain it away, and then arne duncan, the education secretary, saying he was for it, and they tried to say, oh, the president's position is the same as the vice president's. the bottom line is on one hand, the president has to appeal to swing voters in key swing states like north carolina which yesterday backed a constitutional amendment that really permanently bans gay marriage in their state and civil unions in their state. so how does he appeal to those voters and, frankly, african-american voters who by a slim majority polling shows oppose gay marriage, and he doesn't want to lose any of those voters, and yet at the
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same time maintain this position he's evolving and maybe he has evolved in support of equality for all which is the position he's taken to the gay community. so a tricky balancing act for him, and he no doubt didn't want to be put in a box by his vice president and cabinet officials, but that seges to be tems to be position he's in today and we're waiting to see how he gets out of it shortly. >> jessica, it might be tough to answer, to read the tea leaves, but do you think and the people you are talking to, do you think they are driving this moment, this pressure, if you will, on what he is going to say, what kind of position he's going to take on same-sex marriage? >> reporter: well, no, i think that the white house and the campaign knows where their gay and lesbian supporters stand on this issue, so they don't have
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to consult with them and the people i have spoken to have not been consulted with by the white house in advance of this. >> no, no. i mean do you think -- are they driving this, the speculation, the question of whether or not he is going to answer that question this afternoon? are there activists who are kind of behind the scenes pushing him? >> reporter: abc -- robin roberts said he's going to ask the question on gay marriage. we know she said she'll ask the president where he stands on gay marriage. we know that's going to be a question in this interview. that's speculation. we're waiting for the answer. >> okay, jessica yellin, we'll come back to you as soon as you get the answer. >> what's the best country for children to live? our one millionth customer.
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woman has complications during pregnancy, maternity leave policies. iceland is number two. u.s. is number 25. we are in the neighborhood of bela reduce, czech republic, other places that are a lot poorer. i find these numbers more disturbing. moms in this country are 15 times more likely to die of pregnancy-related pregnancy complications than moms in greece. babies are four times more likely to die before their fifth birthday than babies in iceland. >> why are we doing so poorly? >> there's a lot of reasons. we have a high rate of premature birth. part of that is because we have older moms, more teen moms, more obese moms. obese moms have high blood pressure and diabetes. there's lots of reasons. but those are some of the biggies. >> are there certain groups doing better, certain moms doing better than others? >> i heard researchers say when it comes to health, america is almost like two different countries. some of us are getting great health care and others aren't.
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for example, african-american women have much higher rates of premature birth births. african-american babies don't do as well as white babies when you look at infant mortality and health-related problems. these health disparities come through in every way, including this way. >> we still have a lot of work to do. happy mother's day early. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> it is a book that's becoming a dirty little secret of millions of readers. we're going to look at the "shades of grey" fi no, ma'am nonup next. ay... ay... will make brady miss his favorite part of the day. ♪ [ upbeat ] [ barking ] [ whines ] that's why there's beneful playful life, made with energy-packed wholesome grains... and real beef and egg. to help you put more play in your day. beneful. play. it's good for you.
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a racy book al qaedaed "fifty shades of grey" has women swooning. but what makes it so special? we asked them. >> are you hungry? >> the molinas are always hungry now. not for food, thanks to the book you may have heard of "fifty shades of grey." >> i had a friend who suggested the book to me. her husband said to me, ho, it will be the best sex you'll ever had and it's going to change you so much. >> started to see sexuality totally differently. >> how did you notice this? >> intimate nights. >> you only live once. >> the charged up couple aren't alone. >> instead of sleeping we're having a good time. >> carrying their "fifty shades of grey" fans lined up to meet the british author e.l. james.
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>> astonishing reaction to this love story. >> i paid very good money to watch. why does it seem so many women are turned on by this book? everybody read this book? >> yes. >> i sat down with members of divamoms.com. >> it is a modern day fairy tale. >> it's abiliout a controversia relationship between a college student and billionaire. >> we all have our own prince charming but sometimes we have extra fantasies that don't always satisfy everyone. >> disney never made a romance involving bondage or princes who use a flogger on them. >> this is an awakening in a lot of ways for women, not just about what they may fantasize about. i think women are also surprised
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that when they read something their bodies can have this kind of reaction. >> it's been called mommy porn. when was the last time you saw "saturday night live" do a skit about a book. >> happy mother's day. >> what are you doing? get out! >> women are turning to sex and song. ♪ set you fifty shades free >> wait a minute, whoa! where can i buy this book at? >> this is the first time i have ever had sex in my whole -- >> do you need a book to get turned on? >> no. >> what do you need? >> anything. >> don't look at me. >> we don't have a big bed, but we sure get around it. >> cnn, new york. >> that's hilarious. brooke baldwin, hey, brooke. >> how do i follow that. thank you very much. i'll take from it here. if it's live, if it's happening
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right now, we have got it for you. the feds are getting serious about finding this fugitive on the run. take a good long look at this picture. during the show, this man who may be holding two little girls hostage will be added to the fbi's top ten list of most wanted criminals. we have gotten into words of murder charges. the feds are out today hunting this guy. new commercial jetliner is missing. it has at least 45 people onboard. chad myers has been watching this. i know it disappeared 21 minutes after takeoff. that was hours and hours ago. >> it was on a training mission, but it was on a training mission for people who wanted to buy the plane. it left jakarta. went up for a 20, 30 minute ride and didn't come back. it asked for permission to go from 10,000 feet down to 6,000 feet. the only problem, brooke, when i take a look at this, there's a
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7,000 foot mountain right where they asked to come down to 6,000 feet. there's plus or minus 42 people onboard. right now, the search doesn't look good. the weather got a little bit tough. the helicopters had to go back. they're waiting for daybreak to see if they can find any sur vancouvers. -- survivors. >> could this have been a weather issue? >> it could have been. everything was fine, wasvolcano. when you get close to this, you can get up and down motion that the pilot doesn't expect. if he found downdrafts or something coming down a valley, he couldn't get up high enough. there's always that possibility that weather played a role in this for sure. >> chad myers, we'll be watching to see what, in fact, ends up happening with that particular plane. thank you.
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now score one for the good guys. an undercover agent has managed to double cross the terrorists and foil their latest plan for another massive bombing. take a look here. here's a guy who got outfoxed. ibrahim al asiri. we talked about him last week. and as we said, he's the one that built the bomb that was hidden in a terrorist drawers, carried onboard that airliner when it just about exploded. that was christmas day 2009, incoming into detroit. now this man also has built bombs concealed in toner cour cartridges and found at the last minute on a tip onboard two u.s.-bound cargo planes. this latest attempt happened in the last couple of weeks. but we're now learning the guy who volunteered to sneak the bomb on the airliner, he
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snatched that thing. he took it to saudi arabia. he was an agent and the fbi is looking at the bomb as we speak. and for good measure here, this guy is dead. possibly because the agent learned his whereabouts and told the cia where to aim a drone on sunday. he was convicted of the bombing of the u.s. warship cole which killed 17 americans. paul crookshank knows more about these yemen-based terrorists than you and i can possibly imagine. in fact, i know, paul, you've got new information that helps us sort of fill in the blanks in this story. what else do queue know? >> we've been speaking to sources briefed by saudi counterterrorism officials. they're saying that this operation, which thwarted this blot was a saudi-led counterterrorism operation from start to finish. that several months ago, saudi intel intelligence picked up chatter that this group may again be plotting again to target an american airliner.
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and they took advantage of this by sending in an agent pretending to be a suicide bomber who was actually recru recruited into the plot and was then able to provide the saudis and then the americans with this device. but this was a saudi-led investigations. the americans were then brought in once this agent reported back from yemen that there was a real concrete plot going on, brooke. >> kudos to the saudis for doing just that and then involving the u.s. obviously. we mentioned this bomb-making mastermind. you talk about al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, what more do we know about him? what do we know about people he's teaching to make these types of bombs? is. >> we do know he's still at large in yemen. he's very, very dangerous and skilled at making these explosive devices which are very difficult to detect. and he's taught new recruits in how to make these sorts of explosives. that's a very, very worrying scenario. it's possible when the saudis sent this agent in several months ago, one of the things
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they wanted to do was try and locate this bomb maker. but it seems clear they were not able to do so. he's still at large and still a threat. in yemen, this group al qaeda has a greater safe haven, more resources than ever before too launch this sort of operation. so very threatening scenario. >> what else do we know about the bomb itself? the fbi is looking into it. this was apparently another type of underwear bomb. do we know if it's more advanced than the one that didn't work, thank goodness, back in 2009. >> what we're hearing from the sources is it was based on the same explosives as the underwear attack and the printer bombing attack. it was about the same amount of explosives in the printer bomb attack. we're also hearing he was trying to learn from some of his previous mistakes. create a more sophisticated mechanism to explode this device. so this is a bomb maker who is
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becoming ever more dangerous, brooke. >> and this is stuff that isn't necessarily detectable in airports. >> it's difficult to detect. they brought in some of the body scanning technology. we have seen that deployed in many u.s. airports. we're being told that has a good chance of detecting it, perhaps 80% or 90%, but no guarantee that's going to detect it. counterterrorism fishlgs want all layers of security. they think the key is intelligence, thwarting these plots before a bomber can get on a plane. >> at least we now the u.s. is taking a good long look at that bomb. a lot more to cover here. watch this. a kidnapping suspect is on the run as the lives of two girls hang in the balance. how do the feds find a man who's
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>> adam mayes is being charged in the disappearance of a mom and her three young daughters. this is the affidavit that accuses mayes and his wife of first degree mured. in it, there are all kinds of details. it talked about he and joanne, the oldest daughter adrienne were killed. i want you to watch this. this is newly releaseds surveillance video. you can see mayes. and the video shows adam mayes in the middle of the screen. this is april 30. this is three days after bain and her daughters disappeared. it is from a camera inside a gas station. this is guntown, mississippi, where the bodies of bain and her oldest daughter were found at
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mayes' home. authorities are still hopeful that these two girls are alive. now the ceo of profile exchange. pat, welcome to you. >> you see him smack dab in the middle oaf the screen. he looks pretty calm. what do you think of this? >> that makes me feel we're dealing with a psychopath. we've got a guy who's already murdered two people. this is a psychopath. and we have seen from other people like this, if you talk about cereal killer, for example, how many serial killers have shown up for work and they said they're normal. or they kill somebody and go home to their family and have a nice dinner with them. they're very good at acting. they're really not that bothered
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by what they did. >> he and his ex-wife charged with first degree murder here. this is the ex-wife's sister describing mayes. >> he likes to drink a lot. he does a lot of drugs. he's just a loner. he's never had, like, a legitimate steady job. he's never lived out on his own. he's never -- you know, he's always been with his mom and dad. he didn't finish school. he's not trustworthy. but like i said, i just never pictured this. >> you know, it's always gosh, we never thought he could be capable of something like this. lived with mom, apparently that was the house where these two bodies were found. does anything in that description jump out at you? >> yeah, that he's a useless user and probably moochs off of
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people constantly, which means he's manipulative and get what is he wants from them. and this should have been -- it's really sad. i hope all families pay attention to this. it's one thing to have a guy who's down on their luck, but when you have this kind of person, you should not get them near their children. if they're psychopathic, he can develop an interest in your kids that are not normal. he's going out there claiming that at least one of the young ones and maybe two of the young ones are his own children. this is probably just some idea he's come up with to say hey, those are really my kids. it he's probably a totally pathological liar. he may have an interest in those kids don't like. that's what concerns me right now. >> i want to go back to the affidavit. read a little bit, this is from an interview with theresa mayes, the ex-wife of adam mayes. she admits she was involved with the removal a/or confinement of these individuals and removal of
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the two corpses. they were already dead. she was present while adam mayes killed joanne in a garage adjacent to this home. so you have this ex-wife and this mother arrested hooer. and they're charged also with conspiracy. it's just awful when you read all those details. she talks about when and where and how. >> yeah. we have a mom who maybe dpnt fall far from that tree. and a lot of psychopaths will pick their wives by picking someone who will just put up with them and go along with anyone they say. th when they date anybody, if they're good to manipulate, hey, you're good to go. come along with me. my guess is that wife, some people say she's an ex-wife, just did everything she said. she was probably scared of him and under his thumb. so she went along with everything. >> we're going to get more
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information. we are hoping police find these two little girls safe and sound. but mayes, he's cut his hair, altered his appearance. how do you go about tracking down this math and rescue these girls safe and sound? >> the thing is he's not delusional at all. psychopaths aren't delusional. they have a plan exactly what they want to do. you have to get inside his mind and figure out what he's planning next. and those girls are in extreme danger because they're not anybody he really cares about because psychopaths are incapable of caring about anyone. people say oh, he believes their his and he'll take care of them. no he doesn't. they really need to get to those girls as quickly as possible. it's a grim situation. it really is. i just hope they figure out where he's at and finally get a hold of him. >> pat brown, i appreciate it again. going to bring you that news conference about 45 minutes from now. >> meantime, if you could pay $300,000 for a lifetime pass to
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this is "up in the air." clooney plays a business traveler who logs 10 million frequent flyer miles. >> oh, my god. i wasn't b sure this exactly existed. >> i was pretty excited the day that bad boy came in. >> that's amateur hour compared to my next guest today. he threw for business, pleasure or just because he had a couple of hours free, from what i understand. millions and millions of airline miles for unlimited first class travel on american airlines. we'll talk about that. first, jack, welcome. nice to meet you.
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all the years you had this golden ticket, i want you to tell me about the most crazy, elaborate intricate trip you had when you didn't have to pay a thing. >> first of all, i didn't have to pay a thing extra. but i did have to pay $500,000 up front. okay. i can think of a couple of things. i'm an old guy, but in my youth i liked and still do like motorcycles quite a lot. the brilliant motorcycle publishing is not in the united states in my opinion. it's many britain. so there was a magazine called "fast bikes" that was published in england. and you basically couldn't get it in the united states. so one time a friend of mine and i flew over, took the subway to the offices and asked if we could have the new copy and they said you know, we could have mailed this to you for $4 or $5, we said well, it's cheaper to come get it. >> you went to london to buy a magazine? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay.
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i know you've been all over the world, too. i read all about you. let's be clear, you did ultimately, it was something like $350,000 right to pay. you paid nit increments, paying almost $500,000 to get this free forever sort of trip. >> free for $500,000. >> thank you very much. there's the caveat. you took the last trip on this pass, your birthday in 2009. american airlines pulled the plug on your account, claiming you abused said ticket. how did they find you? what did they tell yo? >> well, they found me by going to the check-in counter and i was trying to check in to go back to the united states, coming back to dallas where i lived. but they had decided, i guess, that -- well, it looks to me they decided that this thing was costing too much money and they needed to find a way out of it.
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there's only speculation on my part and who am i to talk about the motives of anyone. but they felt as if i were doing something they didn't like, which was taking some kind of compensation for the other person flying with me. so they set up a sting. >> not only did you -- once you paid this $500,000, this is forever flying you and a companion. so you did, yes or no, take along or sell said companion ticket to others, not necessarily a companion. >> i'm not sure i understood that. >> i never took anybody with me at all whom i didn't know. >> well, american airlines are suing you, and i just want to say you're suing them. i just want to read part of the statement that the airline said to us. if we determine any activity
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violated our policies or is fraudulent in nature, including the nonfraudulent provisions that were included in these original contracts in questionings, we take the actions we deem appropriate. so where does this stand right now? you and american airlines? you laugh. >> well, pardon me while i steal myself for a second about the exquisite clarity of that language. but the -- it was a little bit after july of 2009, they sued me for fraudulent use of the air pass, but on that day they just said you can not fly on american anymore. your air pass is rescinded, your miles accumulate reasonable doubt rescinded and you're just stuck here in london with nothing to do.
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and made me leave the airport. >> so we'll follow this and see where this ends up landing. 15 seconds, are you back with the rest of us in coach now? >> there's some very nice people in coach. i had no idea. >> there's nice folks in coach. it sounds to me like you would be an interesting guy to sit next to. sounds like you had some fun times. i'm sorry to say -- >> had some great times. >> jack, thank you. >> i have much to be thankful for. it's okay. >> thank you, sir. a city bus slams into a student. the whole thing caught on tape. you're going to see what happens next. how these passengers react. plus new concerns over satellite images of a military site in iran. we are getting word of activity there. @@
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that he wore on monday to get can investors buy family stock before it goes public next week. an analyst said the hoodie shows a mark of immaturity for the ceo of facebook. queen elizabeth spoke to parliament for the 57th time in her reign. the annual event is known as her majesty's most gracious speech. she echoed sentiment often heard on this side of the atlantic. >> my ministers' first priority will be to reduce the deficit and restore economic stability. >> economic stability. next month the queen celebrates 60 years on the throne. watch cnn starting sunday june 3 for full coverage of her diamond jubilee celebration. i will see you live from london. the postal service has backed off of a plan to save $500 million a year by closing post offices throughout rural america. the agency wanted to close
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thousands of post offices that just didn't bring in much money. public backlash was swift. it now plans to keep world post offices open, but for fewer hours each and every day and it will force thousands of full-time workers into part-time jobs and offer buyouts. john travolta's lawyer calls a lawsuit against the actor, absurd and ridiculous. in it, two anonymous massage therapists say travolta groped one and sexually attacked the other. travolta's attorney says once the suit is thrown out, travolta plans to sue for malicious prosecution. and a horrifying moment caught here on camera. the city bus here is going to hit. you can hear the brakes. hits a university of texas student during a finals week rally. obviously we're showing it to you because it's okay. this young man amazingly walked away moments later with minor injuries.
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and people get on a train. ♪ >> this is the copenhagen phil harmonic orchestra. this is their version of a flash mob on a train. all of this recorded there on the metro. that is awesome. hundreds of protesters showed up at the bank of america headquarters at charlotte, north carolina. police arrested five people. protesters say they are against the bank's foreclosure practices and cole mine investments. and satellite images showing new activity have aroused some sort of suspicion about key iranian military site here. take a look at these images. the international atomic energy agency suspects nuclear weapons research has taken place at the complex southeast here of
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teheran. there are concerns the site is being cleaned before nuclear inspectors are allowed in. meantime, teheran continues to deny nuclear research is, in fact, taking place. >> a source tells cnn president obama is getting grilled on his evolving stance. that's the president's word. an advocates are expecting him to clarify his position very soon. if you're at work, you can also watch us on your desk top. just go to cnn.com/live cnn.com/live.
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there are risks in alienating some voters if he comes out and says yes, i am in favor of gay marriage. we saw what happened in yesterday in north carolina with amendment 1 which passed. you know, basically barring gay marriage, civil unions, domestic partnerships. talk about the risks of the president not coming out for gay marriage today. >> if he doesn't come out for gay marriage, he risks alienating many of his lgbt supporters who are part of his ground troops, people who are some of his key volunteer network and major, major donors in this cycle. when wall street money has dried up. but also young voters tend to be overwhelmingly in favor of gay marriage. and the youth vote is a constituency that's, as we' been talking about for a long time, key for the president to get them, not just win them, but get them out in numbers this cycle. and then there's also this
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aspect to the president's sort of -- his brand, if you will, where he talks a lot about standing up for principle over politics, being clear on his beliefs. you know, they always say part of their message is that mitt romney is a flip-flop per .he doesn't have core values. and if the president argues that he has this sort of authenticity, you know, some of the activists i talk to say, doesn't it seem that the president would risk seeming inauthentic if he doesn't come down on this issue one way or the other. >> so what if he does come double play on the issue and what if he does agree with what we've heard from arnie duncan and vice president joe biden, yes, he is in support of gay marriage. what happens next? i guess practically speak? >> there is the defense can of marriage act. the president has already
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stopped defending that in court. you know, in practical terms, he could say in a second term, i will fight to overturn doma, the defense of marriage act. nobody i've talked to has said even the most ardent gray right activists say they need that to happen next. all they want, the most ardent gray right activists at this point is for the president osay he sup 30r9s gay marriage because they feel that in itself would be a signal to young gay and lesbian americans that the president stands up for them and that that is enough because it somehow is affirming to young gay and lesbian americans that there's somebody who believes in their equal rights. so there are next steps that could be taken legally, but nay aren't pressing for that just yet. there are initiatives in states that people are fighting for and inhe courts. okay, well, we will see if the president clarifies his evolving stance.
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thank you. it 345i may look like an ordinary soccer ball, but it generates energy while you're playing with it. this is have week's technovations. >> kick a soccer ball around. turn on a light. >> it doubles as a portable generator. it harnesses the energy from play. >> created by two harvard grads, it provides a power souse for people in developing countries. a simple designed based on high school physics. we have a gyroscope a motor stores that power. you can power a lamp, a cell phone charger. we've been prototyping hot plates, water sterilizes. >> the balls are now being donated and distributed by ngos in places like mexico, and south africa.
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>> it's, you know, an energy source, but it's also a source of empowerment. it's based on a sport that is so loved and is grounded in this issue of energy, which is so critical to everyone's lives. coming up next, a guest i promise you don't want to mishere. this boy is forced to return to his parents. his foster mom tried to save his life. she is standing by live to tell his heart breaking story. ♪ ♪ why do you whisper, green grass? ♪ [ all ] shh! ♪ why tell the trees what ain't so? ♪ [ male announcer ] dow solutions use vibration reduction technology
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>> i wanted to take a moment today to focus oen a case we couldn't forget, i couldn't forget, that we shouldn't forget. talked about a little boy. the last three years of khalil's short life was a nightmare. he was 6 years of age but was the size of a 3-year-old. he wasn't just malnourished he was subjected to unimaginable abuse. i want you to listen to mike newell. he's a reporter that really dug deeper into this story. >> thehis parents said they bea him almost daily with extension
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cords, with belts. he had so many scars on his body that the medical examiner said there was too many to put a count on. in the last year of his life, he had some type of stomach issue and would throw up sometimes two or three times a day. his biological parents thought he was doing this on purpose and would lock him in his bedroom and if he got sick during the night, they beat him in the morning. >> how did he die? >> blunt force trauma. his mother said that she unlocked his room, took him into the bathroom for a bath. he was trying to put on his pants and he slipped on water. she yelled at him to get up and he didn't get up quick enough
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and she hit him in the back of the head and he was unconscious before he hit the floor. >> and these biological parents didn't take him to the hospital for more than 10 years. >> no, you're right. they waited 13 hours. his biological father played video games, made himself a steak. his mother went to popeyes before they realized that it was an inappropriate time to take the child to the hospital. >> popeye's and video game. social workers visited khalil's home several times but they seemingly didn't notice the battered and emash yated boy. but somebody did notice something was terribly wrong and tried to do something about it. khalil's cousin and her mother lorraine nixon are here. i just want to say i am so sorry about khalil. this story saddens me. it makes me mad. i just wanted to continue this
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national conversation. when you hear these details about the extension cords and the fact that his biological parents were going to pop deye's and playing video games. was wrap your heads around that? >> no. no. it's extremely difficult to listen to those details. >> when you listen to those details. how does that make you feel? you tried so many times to save this little boy. >> i'm sick -- i hate to say that i'm not surprised. >> they're monsters. >> they're monsters. i want to ask you -- tell me about khalil. we heard about these horrendous stories you should another roof. but under your roof, he was a happy little boy, was he not? >> he was. he was funny and smart and sweet and very affectionate.
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he was excited about everything. he was very loving and there aren't enough sweet words to describe how wonderful he was. >> yes. he was a happy, loving, beautiful, sweet little boy. >> and when you hear about his life with his biological parents, the locks hackered shut, deprived of food. seven siblings removed from this home because of neglect. yet still this judge ruled that he be placed back in the custody of his biological parents. how many times did you call dhs, alicia? >> i don't know if i can count how many times i called dhs, how many times i called his caseworker, her supervisors, their supervisors, all the way up to ambrose. i tried to appeal to everybody's
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morals and their -- what should be their human side to look out for khalil. and at least check on him and make sure he was okay. but to no avail. nobody wanted to do any more than they were supposed to do. >> let me ask you this. was it obvious just to the naked eye when you would get khalil back, did you see sdars? when you hear from this medical examiner, it took 61 minutes to just actually log all the scars, the bones protruding on his body. was it obvious to you he wasn't taken care of? >> well, that's the thing. i got khalil when he was a week old. and i haven't seen him any more -- i'm sorry, after march 2009. the last time i saw him was at his funeral. i did not know anything about the extended abuse, but there was one visit he came home and
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he pointed out a scratch on his nose. we deduced it was something that happened maybe while playing with maya, his younger sister. and we left it at that. because at the time, we had no idea about their history, his parents' history. >> you had no idea. >> none. >> okay. let me get this in there. we did our due diligence. we reached out to dhs. they told us, we are committed to a continuous review of our performance and are now engaged in a careful review of our policies and practices, as well as our response in this case. when the review is completed, we will make any necessary changes to ensure the safety of the children we serve. i hate that i'm talking to you but i'm glad i'm talking to you at the same time. because this should be part of a national conversation. i know some of these older siblings in khalil's home, they parentally, according to this reporter i talked to, they saw the abuse. they were just too afraid to speak up because they were afraid khalil would be taken from their parents' custody. my final question, could
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anything have been done differently? what can we as a nation learn from this tragedy? >> well, firstly, i want too say the adult siblings that you speak of were afraid to take him away from the place that he was being armed. that makes no sense. it makes no sense. you don't can want your mother to lose a child she's abusing. that's backwards. >> there are lots of thing that we can learn that date back six years. when we were trying desperately to get help from the city of philadelphia and from dhs. but the judges in this case clearly made decisions that didn't make any common sense and may have actually violated the law that we did not find out until after khalil's death. and then in terms of dhs, an analogy that i used earlier was that a car cannot be fixed as long as it's running.
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dhs needs to be dismantled. it's not working. >> look, i'm sorry for the loss of khalil, but we will continue staying on dhs and we'll see if something went wrong, what went wrong and if and how it can be fixed. i appreciate it. i appreciate your honesty coming on here. and i do want to just remind you. they're charged with murder. one philadelphia social worker has been removed from active e du duty. a search is on now for this new russian padgett, just like this one. it was carrying at least 45 people when it disappeared shortly after takeoff in indonesia. ♪
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a search a search is on for a plane that took off from jakar jakarta. i know teams are on the ground. they're searching for this aircra aircraft. but at this point, they have no idea where this thing is. >> they don't. and they don't know what's happened to it either. this is a russian-made aircraft on a demonstration flight. it was only supposed to be in the air about 30 minutes or so. but 21 minutes into the flight, it dropped off radar and stopped answering radio calls. there are some differing reports of just how many people were onboard.
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we think somewhere between 45 and 50. the crew was rationed. most of the passengers were indonesian. they did launch an initial search to try to find it from the air. but that had to be called off because of low light and poor weather. but they hope to resume that at first light in just a few hours, brooke. >> i appreciate it. want to sneak a quick break in. we are getting possible news that we could have some, dare i say, some clarification on president obama's stance on gay marriage. [ mrs. hutchison ] friday night has always been all fun and games here at the hutchison household but one dark stormy evening... there were two things i could tell: she needed a good meal and a good family. so we gave her what our other cats love, purina cat chow complete. it's the best because it has something for all of our cats!
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>> there has been pressure mount for president obama to clarify haze stance on gay marriage. he's said his stance is evolving. what does that mean? we don't know. but now we're learning because of this abc interview happening this afternoon, the president will be pressed on this specific issue. as soon as we hear his answer, we'll bring that to you. in the meantime, i want to bring in wolf blitzer. wolf, tell me what we know about this interview and when we should get some indication as to what the president says. >> well, we now know what the president has told abc news. the president now says he believes that same-sex marriage should be legal. he says his position has evolved and he's going forward with that position. in recent day, his education
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secretary said he supports same-sex marriage, arnie duncan. the vice president of the united states last sunday basically said the same thing. and today in this new interview with robin roberts of abc news, the president according to abc news says same-sex marriage should be legal, that the president's position has evolved. obviously a very historic moment in the united states. first time ever that an american president has come out in favor of same-sex marriage. and it's going to have significant ramifications in the gay community, obviously. the heterosexual community for all americans. it's also going to have major political ramifications in this election season, less than six months to go before the presidential election. it's obvious that the president wanted to clarify this once and for all. in the after math of all of the uproar that developed on sunday since joe biden said on "meet the press" he supports same-sex
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marriage. arnie duncan followed up, pointing out that he, too, supports same-sex marriage. it's obviously a huge deal that we're witnessing right now, brooke. >> wolf, thank you. obviously as soon as we get some of that sound making this historic statement, now the president is saying same-sex marriage should be legal. we have gloria borjer standing by. gloria, my question to you before we get into the risks and rewards of coming out with this finally publicly once and for all, what about the timing. wolf mentioned we did hear from vice president joe biden very clearly, coming out supporting gay marriage. why today? because i also understand that this particular interview that wolf mentioned with robin roberts of abc news, this thing was booked tuesday afternoon, pretty quick the white house wanted to sit him down. >> well, first of all, i think you would have to say the president was under some pressure, not only given the vice president's statements, but also it was that in north
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