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high school students in j joplin, missouri, will get a special guest at graduation. president obama will give the commencement speech. the nato conference in chicago ground zero for diplomacy and protests. a fierce confrontation yesterday between protesters and police left dozens of people injured on both sides. today more demonstrations are planned. our ted rowlands has been basically in the thick of all of that. protesters, ted, vowing to shut down, i understand, boeing's chicago headquarters today. what is happening now? is it fairly peaceful here? have they managed to shut down anything? >> they're just finishing a march, suzanne, arriving at
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boeing headquarters, and there's a couple hundred people there, so at this point it's been very peaceful. they have just been marching through the streets of chicago, but we'll see what happens in the next hour or two as they entrench themselves at boeing. we've been hearing some reports that they are possibly shutting down some streets. if they do that, police may be forced to go in and clear people out. so at this point everything is smooth sailing, big difference from what we saw yesterday in that dramatic video of those hundreds of protesters going up against hundreds of police in riot gear, pushing and shoving. none of that yet today. >> ted, you know, we look at these summits every year, and there are always protesters, and it's usually for just about anything. is there one particular thing or cause that the folks who have come out and said, look, this is why we are opposing the nato leaders here? this is the one message we want to send to them? >> reporter: no. there are multiple ones, and that's the key is you have so
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many groups coming in using this as a stage for their particular cause. we had we had 3,000 nurses in chicago on friday asking for a robin hood tax to offset the cutbacks in medicare in the country. yesterday you had iraqi and afghani war vet trons opporans the war throwing their medals away. the communication between the police and the different groups is not as strong as you would hope. >> it looks very violent when you look at the police and protesters going up against each other. we heard from chicago's top cop gary mccarthy who seemed to be quite emotional when he defended his officers. here is what he said. >> these officers were highly trained, highly skilled, and if you think it's easy to ask people to do what they did, it's
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not. asking people to put themselves in harm's way knowing that they're going to get assaulted and to be able to stand there and take it, these guys were amazing. >> ted, is that what you saw? did you see guys standing there being ready to just take it and they just took it? >> reporter: yeah. i mean, what mccarthy was saying there basically and the emotion he was showing was at the end of the long day yesterday, and it was emotional on both sides, you had protesters who wanted to get closer to the summit and they were being very aggressive and then you had police pushing them back with the riot gear and being injured, four officers were injured. one was stabbed in the leg. and you could see the emotion in the commander's voice there as he was sort of wrapping up the day. he was very proud of the work that they did and although there were injuries on both sides, it could have been a lot worse, and could you hear that in his voice.
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he felt as though the planning did pay off and that his officers did a stellar job in keeping the violence to a minimum. >> ted, thank you very much. want to turn to what's happening inside the nato summit. we're going to go to jessica yellin who is also in chicago. as we know, those protests nowhere near where you are, where the meetings took place. that's not something that the leaders are actually privy to. we saw president obama earlier today talking about his focus, the end of the war in afghanistan. i want you to listen first and then we'll talk about it on the back end. >> today is also an opportunity to ensure our hard-won progress is preserved. the strategic partnership agreement that president karzai and i signed in kabul ensures that as afghans stand up, they will not stand alone. today we can agree on nato's long-term relationship with afghanistan beyond 2014 including our support of afghan security forces. >> so, jessica, take us inside
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that room. peel back the curtain, if you will. how are they responding to the president? do they have an agreement here? >> reporter: in a word, yes, suzanne. there is different levels of commitment here, but in essence all these nations are in agreement that they have to exit afghanistan in what everyone here is calling a responsible way, so today they've come out with what they call in these circles a communique, and they say they're ready to hand over combat operations to the afghans by the end of 2013 and withdraw nearly all foreign troops by the end of 2014. the language they use in the communique, it says that this is a, quote, irreversible course. so, yes, they're on the same page, and in the broadest terms they are. and one of the big goals for the u.s. here was to work toward getting mutual funding for the years after 2014.
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there was a $1.3 billion fund raising goal, and cnn's elise labbot is reporting they're even ahead of their time frame in reaching that. they have collected already $1 billion worth of commitments toward that. >> jessica, we're looking at pictures here. the president kind of working through the crowd, if you will. he looks like he's quite pleased, he's happy. can you give us a sense of the mood. was this a relief to a lot of leaders? >> reporter: the sense here is that everybody -- as unpopular as the afghanistan war is here, arguably it's even more unpopular in many european countries. so for many of these leaders, they don't want to commit too much, but they also don't -- there's a mutual pressure, nobody wants to be the one to cut and run, if you will, or to rush to the exits, and so because they're here together, they're all in it together so to
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speak, and so they can all go home and say, well, we've all made a commitment here, and so there's a sense of this is a long historic alliance, nato, and they are recommitting their nations to what this alliance is about, and so the summit, it's a mood of agreement, cooperation, some relief that they're reaching agreement and agreeing to exit afghanistan, which as we all know, not at this point a war any of these medicatination to continue sacrificing blood and recess for. >> we are watching the class photo. sometimes they joke with each other. there have been times i know president bush used to do little bunny ears behind some of the others. you see the president. you see german chancellor angela merkel and some of the other european leaders gathered around the president. president obama in the center as though pose for this traditional picture that is taken at the end
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of the summit. commonly known as the family photo. nice to listen in a little bit, see what they're saying. it was an emotional day in a new jersey courtroom. that's where a former rutgers university student was sentenced in a case related to the death of his roommate. tyler clementi killed himself after dharun ravi secretly used a web cam to spy on him in a gay relationship, and he used social media to invite others to watch in on var enkotheir encounters. >> ison carol is live outside the courtroom. i understand the sentence was 30 days in jail. he could have faced ten years in prison. can you explain the emotion, the impact, how did people react to that? >> reporter: well, suzanne, a lot of tears in that courtroom on both sides. dharun ravi's mother cried and teared up, tyler clementi's mother crying as well in the back of the courtroom.
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you could see some folks crying there as well. a lot of emotional moments in the courtroom during the sentencing. as you say, dharun ravi could have faced up to ten years in prison. turns out with what the judge decided, neither side was satisfied with what the judge handed down in terms of sentencing. 30 days in jail, 300 hours of community service, 3 years probation and in addition to that dharun ravi would have had to pay a $10,000 fine. that money going toward an organization to help those who are victims of bias crimes. the judge said in this particular case, judge glenn berman, said he hoped h response would be, quote, measured, and his response would be balanced. but he also told dharun ravi not to take any offense as to what he was about to tell him and what he basically said, suzanne, is what he did not ever hear from dat ruharun ravi was any sf an apology. and that was one of the things that the judge said he thought was missing throughout this entire proceeding. no apology, no remorse. he called and said what dharun
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ravi did, he said it was a cold, calculated, methodically and conceived act in terms of what he did to tyler clementi. but the most emotional moments came when both mothers stood and spoke about what they wanted to see happen in the court today. i want you to listen to what we heard starting first with jane clementi, tyler clementi's mother. >> and i had no idea of the despair and torment tyler must have been feeling, and i thought i knew him. tyler and i had been very connected, so much so that i felt like a piece of me died in september of 2010. that connection became very real to me again during the trial as most of the time i was listening and watching as if through tyler's ears, eyes, and mind. >> dharun's dreams are shattered, and he has been living in hell for the past 20
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months. it is hard for me to say, but my son is sitting here physically alive in front of everyone's eyes whi eyes. i made sure he knows i love him. >> reporter: and at that moment sabitha ravi got up and hugged her son. it was the first time throughout this entire trial that we've seen dharun ravi show some emotion as well. obviously very emotional and sad day for him. but, again, neither side satisfied with the judge's decision. both sides say they will appeal. the prosecution wanted to see dharun ravi spend more time in prison. obviously, the defense saying he shouldn't be sentenced to any prison or jail time at all. they thought probation would have been best. i want to point something out, suzanne. in all of this the judge could have also sentenced dharun
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ravi -- there is a portion of this that said he could have been deported. he is not a u.s. citizen. he's an indian citizen. the judge said he was not going to recommend that and he said the reason for that is because there's another character in this whole sort of trial, and that is someone who is unidentified. he's only named as m.b. he's the man that tyler clementi had that intimate relationship with in his dorm room, and basically he submitted a written statement that said despite everything that happened, he thought dharun ravi should be punished but that he did not believe he should be deported. if he could be rehabilitated in some way, he should deserve to be an american citizen and the judge said that is the only reason why he was not going to recommend deportation. but, as i said, neither side satisfied with the sentencing. they're going to have about ten days to now decide if they can put together some sort of an appeal. suzanne? >> jason, was there any point when the ravi and clementi families got together, looked at
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each other, exchanged any kind of emotion with each other? >> reporter: no. not in the courtroom, not before this proceeding, and also i should also point out that we did not hear from dharun ravi himself. he chose not to address the court. >> thank you so much, jason. appreciate it. here is what we're working on for this hour. just in time for memorial day. drivers are getting some relief. but will lower gas prices hold out? then it's an american epidemic, obesity is taking a toll on our kids and sending the rate of diabetes skyrocketing. and did you see it? we've got amazing pictures of the moment when the sun went out. meineke's personal pricing on brakes.
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i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. gas prices on the way down headed into memorial day weekend. they are skidding nationally. the price down 18 cents in just the last month. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. this is good news, alison, don't you think? it makes you want to take off and go somewhere. >> let's just take off. the reason behind it, there's a
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good side and a bad side. let me start with the bad. some of the reason you're seeing gas prices lower is because of the weak economy. job market is continuing to be week, much of europe is in a recession. there's lower demand for gas. with a lackluster economy, you have lower gas prices. but some of it is also good news. concerns about iran have eased. that caused a big spike in the spring, you remember, when those big worries over iran, that it could close the strait of hormuz. those worries have kind of gone away. we have enough oil and gas supplies and analysts say oil and gas supplies are at their highest levels since 1990. >> do we expect prices to keep going down? >> yes, but don't expect anything huge. what happens after memorial day is the refineries switch to summer blend. it's cleaner, more expensive to produce, but remember when they were predicting $5 a gallon gas when prices were rising?
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now they're predicting $3 a gallon. what you see is a tendency to overreact to both extremes. one analyst says he thinks $3.50 a gallon is pretty much as good as we can get at this point. >> well, i'll take it. i'll take it. better than $5. you're watching the markets today. tell us about how facebook is doing after it started selling shares on friday. >> okay. so today for its first full day of trading shares are getting hammered. trading down 9%. shares are at $35. so much for all the hype, right, leading up to this big pub lay debut. one trader said after this weekend of negative news, they said facebook was overhyped and overvalued, all of that is coming to fruition on the markets. what you're seeing not happen today is morgan stanley coming to the rescue. morgan stanley was that lead underwriter propping up the shares to not fall below that $38 mark on friday. guess what? morgan stanley isn't coming to
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the rescue today. that's why you're seeing the shares fall. >> kind of glad i didn't jump into all of that. good to wait. everybody said just wait. i'm glad i waited. just saying. thanks. she quite literally became the face of brutality against women in afghanistan. while she is physically safe now, her troubles are far from over. we'll have her story when we come back. ♪ i can do anything today ♪ i can go anywhere ♪ i can go anywhere today ♪ la la la la la la la [ male announcer ] dow solutions help millions of people by helping to make gluten free bread that doesn't taste gluten free. together, the elements of science and the human element can solve anything. solutionism. the new optimism.
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president obama and world leaders are right now discussing an end to the war in afghanistan. it is happening at the nato summit in chicago. but many activists are worried that world leaders are not focused on the rights of afghan women. amnesty international asked supporters in chicago to fly kites to show support for the rights of afghan women who are often the victims of brutal attacks. we have a heartbreaking report on what woman who has become a symbol of what afghan women are forced to endure. >> translator: i think all the time why this thing happens to me and why they cut my ears and nose. if i had my nose, i could have my life now. >> reporter: this is 19-year-old
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bibi. it was her husband who cut off her nose and ears. born in a village in southern afghanistan, aesha was forced in marriage at a young age. she was given as pay back for a crime committed by someone else in her family. after years of abuse from her in-laws, aesha ran away but was caught. she spent months in prison. her father-in-law retrieved her and with her taliban husband and others brutally cut off her nose and ears. she appeared on the cover of "time" and was brought to the u.s. for reconstructikon struco reconstructive surgery but she was deemed to emotionally fragile to go through the procedure. she has settled with an afghan
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te tea family. >> study, learn. i want to be a police officer. >> she wants to be a police officer. that's what she wants to be. >> she wants justice and she thinks she found it by police officers and soldiers. >> i love police officers. >> reporter: aesha had arrived in america more traumatized than anyone had anticipated. >> somebody wants to kill me or somebody following me. every second night she has this kind of dreams. >> reporter: for more than a year a strong support system of women surrounded her, but still aesha struggled to find a sense of belonging. in late 2011 she asked to move in with the family who cares for her now. but progress is slow, and aesha's past is not easily overcome.
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>> why are we practicing? i practice in classroom. practicing, practicing english all the time. >> she is interested to learn the language. she is doing her homework. she's going to the english class. >> so which do you like, do you like miss or ms? >> you like miss. we can choose. >> practicing english. practici practicing. let's count. >> i am from afghanistan. >> we treat her like our own. she is part of this family. >> she sees how the people have the relationships with each other, the respect. >> reporter: the family hopes
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aesha will soon get the surgery to rebuild her nose and ears. if she does, it will be a grueling and complicated process that could take up to two years to finish. aesha and the whole family have a long road ahead of them. >> i'm a little bit scared my nose, i hope they don't make it bad. >> she said i hope they give me a very nice nose. >> an amazing young girl. so they're more of aesha's story, go to cnn.com/aesha. dharun ravi has been sentenced in the rutgers spying case. you will hear the tearful testimony from tyler clementi's mother before that sentence was handed down. let's get the wheels turning.
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new jersey judge handed down a 30-day jail sentences for a former rutgers student. dharun ravi used a web cam to spy on his roommate kissing another man. he put it on line and used social media to invite people to watch it. tyler clementi's mother, jane, spoke in court. >> he never really new tyler, not the smart, kind, articulate, humble, funny, talented, caring, thoughtful, generous, trustworthy and dependable person tyler was. all he found out was that tyler was gay. >> dharun ravi's mother also spoke and made an emotional plea for her son. >> he was absolutely devastated and broken into pieces. the media misconstructed the facts to the public and misconceptions were formed.
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dhar i was watching him helplessly. all i could do was just hug him and cry. >> i want to bring in our cnn legal contributor paul callen in new york to talk about some of this. you have been watching the sentencing hearing, we have both been watching this. did it surprise you. he could have got ten years in prison, he got 30 days in jail? >> yes, it surprised me, especially because judge berman gave ril an eally an impassione sentencing speech in which denounced ravi for not apologizing for not standing at the time of his sentencing. the 30-day sentence was really quite mild given the emotion in that courtroom. >> does it send a message for cases like this? >> oh, i think it does, and i think one of the reasons
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probably that the judge ultimately said 30 days would be enough was that the national press coverage of this case has sent a message about the use of the internet to invade privacy. i think college kids now understand that if you use a web cam and broadcast something that's sexually embarrassing or that indicates bias against gays or other ethnic or religious groups, the law will punish you. this was an important case, a watershed case on cyber bullying. >> do you think these mothers, the emotional testimony, do you think that impacted the judge's decision on the kind of sentence he ultimately handed down? >> you know, yes, i do think it did, suzanne. i was watching this, and i have tried a lot of murder cases myself as both a prosecutor and a defense attorney. i have never seen a situation where the mothers not only of the victims in the case -- or the victim in the case but the
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mother of the defendant also spoke. they both gave impassioned speeches. this was a courtroom drenched in the tears of these mothers, and, you know, you couldn't help but feel that there was a terrible tragedy that both mothers were facing, although, of course, mrs. clementi, the far greater tragedy. and that had to affect the judge. >> paul, i want to turn to another case in north carolina. the jury is deciding john edwards' fate. you know, the former presidential candidate, he's accused of illegally using almost $1 million in campaign donations to cover up this affair he had with rielle hunter and hide the child that they had together. jurors heard three weeks of testimony against john edwards. the defense only presented their case in less than three days. now day two of deliberations. what does this indicate to you? >> normally when deliberations go for an extensive period of time, you think maybe there's going to be a defense verdict or a conviction on a lesser count.
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i'm not surprised though, this case was a complicated case. it went on for a lengthy period of time. it's a nationally publicized case. so i'm not going to read the tea leaves and see a defense verdict or a prosecution verdict. i think these jurors are just being careful and looking at all the evidence. this fact pattern, by the way, charging edwards with this crime, it's never really been done before under this statute. no prominent politician has been charged criminally under this statute, so the jury has a difficult job to face, and i just think they're taking their time to make sure they get it right. >> explain to us what the process is normally, this kind of waiting process, if you will. i imagine that john edwards, his daughter, and his parents are showing up every day sitting there just waiting in case there is a verdict. >> yeah. it's a nerve-racking experience for the attorneys and for the defendant, for the prosecutors as well. you kind of pace up and down in
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the hallway of the courthouse sometimes or sometimes if the lawyer is close by, when 10 or 15 minutes of the courthouse, the judge will let you leave the courthouse, but it's really a nerve-racking experience. one, by the way, that john edwards is very used to. he was a successful, prominent civil attorney. he's waited for many verdicts in the past but never one involving himself. >> where he's on the other side. probably a very different kind of emotion he's going through now. paul, thank you. good to see you. education is the number one thing parents want for their kids. we're going to tell you where the best high schools in the country are.
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all right. time to turn the tables on high schools and actually grade them. "newsweek" has ranked the top 1,000 public high schools in the country. does your child go to the best one? well, let's take a look. daily beast reporter lauren stripe is joining us from new york. so let's get to it. top five, what do we think?
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>> hi, suzanne. thanks for having me. the top five are some really phenomenal schools. i think what we're seeing especially from the top five, they're a lot located in the south. 14 of the top 20 are in the south. but especially in the top 5, these are high schools where all the kids graduate, all the kids go to college, but they take an extreme number of college level courses in high school before they even graduate. >> and how did they get there? how did they get to be the top of the list there? what is the criteria? >> i think a great example -- the criteria we look at, we look at graduation rate, the number of kids that go on to college, two-year or four-year programs, as well as the college level courses they take while in high school, and then additionally we look at the average ap score, the average s.a.t. score, but a great example is the high school that landed at number one on the list which is gatton school in kentucky. it's perfect for this list in
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that kids actually go to high school on a college campus and it's very small, 126 students in the entire high school, but they are surrounded by college level courses so when they actually get to college, it's sort of a very easy transition. it's almost something they have been surrounded with for four years. >> do they rank the teachers any way. any way they demonstrate how good the teachers are in this ranking of schools? >> well, i think -- no, not directly, but implicitly when you look at this, i mean, the schools that stand out are the schools that have exceptional teachers and i think the thing we also learn while we put this list together is as we talk to teachers and principals and administrators, a lot of these schools land on this list because the teachers are putting in extra time. they're tutoring these kids before school, after school, on saturday, before two weeks into the summer session. these are teachers who give an exceptional amount of time and effort to help these kids. >> are these schools, are they
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relatively wealthy schools? schools with lots of means in districts that have a very high tax base? >> they do run the gamut. on average the students of these schools have a higher socioeconomic status than the average kid in the u.s. about 18% of these kids get free or reduced lunch which is a mark of wealth. but 77% of this list is totally open enrollment schools where it's the neighborhood school, it's the school the kids are walking to and busing to. so i think it's really remarkable, some of these schools are doing a lot with relatively little. >> and i understand that some of the schools, in the top ten you have two of those schools in texas, two are in arizona. are there some states that have better schools overall? >> i think again it runs the gamut. the interesting thing about arizona and texas both have very strong charter and magnate schools. so they have got these really strong systems to deal with, especially in texas, where
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certain cities or localities have relatively bad public school systems. these charter schools are coming in and really improving the opportunities for education. >> anything surprise you when you saw this study? >> this is the second year we've done this list, and i do think schools are improving. even the last year, the statistics we saw going from just last year to this year, a lot of schools are offering more ap courses. a lot of schools are really encouraging students to take college-level courses while they're in high school, and i think it's really remarkable if you compare year to year. >> lauren, i understand you found my school on your list there. number 111, right? centennial high school in elicott city. i have to give a shout out to my alma mater. i knew it was a good school but that's pretty school when you see it ranked there, 111. that's not bad. >> absolutely. >> all right. c >> congratulations.
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politifact.com. this is from crossroads gps, a conservative advocacy group, a television ad by the group says president obama promised that families making less than $250,000 a year would not see their taxes go up. but the ad says the health care reform law, which the group calls obama care, raises 18 different taxes. true or false? what do we know? >> we gave that one a mostly false on our truth-o-meter. obama did promise that and the quote they use in the ad is correct, but it's really misleading to then say that the 18 taxes in obama care are the reason why that promise is broken. of those 18 taxes, only a handful, about five or six, actually apply to individuals. most of them apply to corporations or to the wealthy. and also it's important to point out that millions of americans actually have gotten tax cuts because of obama's policies in the stimulus and the payroll tax cuts. so overall that one gets a
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mostly false on the truth-o-meter. >> what about this web ad? president obama says mitt romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children. how did that rate? >> that got a false. romney has never said that. in fact, if you look at what romney has said, although he's been clear he is opposed to gay marriage, he has been supportive of adoption by gay couples and at least state laws that permit adoption by gay couples. so it's just inaccurate to say he opposes gay adoptions. that's false. >> this is an ad from the u.s. chamber of commerce about the health care law. it says 20 million people could lose their current coverage, including our senior citizens who are on medicare. what do we know? >> pants on fire for that one on our truth-o-meter. that's just ridiculously false. the ad is mixing and matching
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two different things. first of all, it's the 20 million number it attributes to the congressional budget office, but the cbo report does not say that. it doesn't say anything about medicare. it's talking about employer provided health care and it's talking about the maximum number of people who either might choose to have different health insurance or could be forced out of plans, and then applying that to medicare in a way that's just not accurate. so pants on fire for that one. >> bill adair, thank you for setting it straight. appreciate it. want to show you a live picture we're looking at, the nato class photo here at the nato summit. it looks like they're just getting off the stage there. but they do this from time to time. every year they get together and they pose for these pictures, the family photo it is fondly called. they are filing -- it looks like there were about three rows of these world leaders. many powerful and rich nations that get together and, of course, the main topic of discussion in chicago out of
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this nato summit was ending the war in afghanistan and whether or not there would be a financial commitment from these world leaders from those countries to do so in the next couple of years. a man wanted in connection with a massacre near the texas border is now under arrest. mexican police have a leader of one the most feared drug cartels and he is now talking. quirrel s, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. if you made a list of countries from around the world... ...with the best math scores. ...the united states would be on that list. in 25th place. let's raise academic standards across the nation. let's get back to the head of the class. let's solve this.
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20% of teenagers are prediabetic or diabetic. we'll bring in our elizabeth cohen to talk about this. we're talking about a pletty big increase in a short period of time. what's the significance? >> in 2008, the prevalence was 9% of teenagers had diabetes ore prediabete prediabetes. in 2008, 23%. that's a pretty big jump in a deca decade. type 2 dibeet tease is something you think of as you age, especially if you're heavy. and now we're seeing it in really high numbers in teenagers. and this is very dangerous. diabetes is, of course, a precursor to heart disease and all sorts of other problems. it's very disturbing.
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>> so what did the researchers actually find when they took a look at this group? >> they found this number and then they found another scary number. that number is that 43% of teens have either dibeet tease, high cholesterol or hyper tension. one, two or three of those. so for teens -- usually when we talk about these, we're talking about people in their 50s or something like that. these are teenagers. so 43% have at least one of those three problems. >> and why is this happening? >> a lot of it is obesitobesity. when one third of kids are obese or overweight, that's what you end up with. that's why it's called an epidemic, a health crisis. when you see it that young, i think people are sort of floundering about what to do. >> this is all about heat ooeting too much? not getting enough exercise? >> people eat too much, they
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often are eating the wrong foods and also they're not getting out and getting enough exercise. >> i'm sure parents are thinking, what do i do? what can i possibly do to protect my clield hild? or if you're a grandparent, protect my grandchildren. >> society as a whole is trying to do something. they're trying to get fatty foods out of schools. they're trying to get sodas oit of schools. but in the meantime, you really do have to take it upon yourself as a parent to take care of this problem. i think the way to think about it is, if you start to see your child getting too heavy, do something about it. look at what they're eating. think, is my child getting exercise every day? and really take action before it gets out of hand. it's not the cute and chubby kid, that's not okay. if your child were god forred by on their way to getting cancer, you would do something. you don't put your child in a car without a seat belt, right? if your child is starting to gain weight, you need to look at what they're eating and you need
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to look at their exercise. it's really hard. i'm a parent. i get it. it's hard when you're running around and you're out and you're thinking what can we eat and your choices are all fast food that's really bad for you. it's really tough in this society to get your children to lose weight. but it's so important. >> you have beautiful healthy taughters. >> thank you. but it's a tough job. it's a struggle. when your child asks for soda at every single meal and i have to say no and they give me grief. i just say look no, you're not having it. i look around and i see a lot of kids drinking soda. that is hundreds of calories a day if you're letting your kids drink a lot of sodas. you have your child drinking soda all day every day is an example of something that's changeable. >> right. you have to be a responsible parent. well, you are. got to hand it over to brooke. >> hello, everyone. a lot happening this hour.
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first, gripping moments inside a court as this particular college student is learning he's going to be facing 30 days behind bars for spying on his roommate. >> what i want is justice. many people are watching and i'm asking the court do the watch thing. >> i was watching him helplessly. all i could do was just hug him and cry. >> i haven't heard you apologize once. >> after the judge ripped this young man, he sentenced the former rut ger student. the question we're asking today, is the sentence fair? but first, protests all in the name of peace. not so much. 234 chicago. violent clashes over the week. at least four police officers and several otesters with injuries. all of this leading into the lead-up of nato, the summit here, nato in chicago.
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we have correspondents covering every angle of this story. we want to start with jessica yellin in chicago. >> today it was the central focus. essentially saying they have broad agreement on an exit strategy in afghanistan and maintaining some responsible, as they like to phrase it, presence there, beyond 2014 in terms of provide some financial support is for the country. they described it as irreversible, the transfer for afghans and agreed in this declaratideck la that the afghans will be taking over combat control and that the majority of foreign troops is will be out by the end of 2014. i think we have a sound bite from president obama from earlier today. if we do, we can play that now.
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>> today is the opportunity to ensure our hard-won progress is preserved. the strategic partnership agreement that president karzai and i signed in kabul ensures that as afghans stand up, they will not stand alone. today, we can agreen nato's long-term relationship with afghanistan beyond 2014 including our support of afghan security force fps. >> and brooke, while u.s. officials were adamant they did not come here with the intention of simply raising money from other nations, they did actually want to raise the money from other nations and so far they've been quite successful in getting commitments. our foreign affairs reporter already confirmed they got commitments of more than about $1 billion for the year after 2014 from other nations. they're looking to raise $1.3 billion. that's already a long ways forwards that goal. >> so more than a billion thus
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far. we've known about the president's plan about afghanistan. learning a little bit more today. but did the summit in chicago, jessica, did it take on a different significance when they were talking afghanistan? >> well, it's quite meaningful because all of these nations, brooke, are looking to try to wind down their commitments there. it's not a popular war here in the u.s. and arguably it's even less popular in many european nations. sop there's a combined sense of relief for all of these countries that they can, far the leaders oof all of these countries that they can sort of ban together in agreement, despite their differences on exit timing and strategy. the french, for example, the new leader of france saying he wanted to get out sooner than originally planned for them. but they all found a way to accommodate one another's differences and find ways to hang together and also find ways to exit the country and this war
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in a way that allows each of them to say they're not abandon canning afghanistan. the one standout disappointment is they have not found a way to open up supply routes in pakistan. they're still negotiating because pakistan is not letting the u.s. use supply routes there. they're charging the u.s. an exorbitant amount of money. anticipate that remanes a standout sticking point. the president of pakistan will be leaving this summit, we understand, without a bilateral meeting, without a meeting with the president of the u.s. because he continues to demand too much money for this request, brooke. >>ing o, jessica yellin covering the summit in chicago. outside the closed doors, it's been down right nasty when you look at police trying to hold the line. part of gate thrown at police. fighting impact, batons clashing, protesters clashing. injuries reported on both sides. look at this.
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also this. you see that? it appeared a protester was clinging on to that fan. is it quieter today? >> ye . >> reporter: yeah, it is brooke. we just got an update. there was a large group of protesters pl s planning to spee day at boeing to shut down boeing and they only spent a few moments there. now they're on the streets of something, moving through the streets. the police at this point are allowing them to march and they're actually facilitating this unplanned march. we believe they're headed to obama's re-election campaign headquarters, which is across the downtown area. they're about a mile away right
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now. they're letting them march. there are legions of chicago police officers on guard and out in the streets right now just in case something happens like we saw yesterday. but so far so good today. >> okay, ted, keep watching it for us. we come back to ted rollins. wolf blitzer, he, too, is in chicago. he's interviewing the president of the afghanistan, hamid karzai at this very minute. he's going to join us the next hour with a preview. ewe're going to see what they discussed, if news was made and watch the situation room for his exclusive interview later on today. got a lot more for you in the next two hours. watch this. there are several gay rights activists who now say go easy on him. i'm brooke baldwin. three climbers die on mt. everest as dozens flock to the
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that's personal pricing. >> dharun ravi will be watched by jail guards for 30 days. a judge in new jersey sentenced him just hours ago. >> i heard this jury say guilty 288 times and i haven't heard you apologize once. >> i know you know the story. ravi's roommate was 18-year-old tyler clementi, the rutgers student who ultimately jumped off the george washington bridge, distraught that ravi and others spied on him in his own dorm room, seeing clementi making out with another man. ravi was convicted with spying and bias intimidation.
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before the sentencing today, the court first heard from the mothers of both clementi and ravi, the one thing these two women shared were tears for their sons. >> why didn't his roommate just request a roommate change? why was he so arrogant and so mean stirted and evil that he would humiliate and embarrass tyler in front of the very people tyler was trying to meet and become friends with. how could they all just go along with such meanness. why didn't any one of them speak up and stop it? . >> my 20-year-old son already has too much burden on his shoulders to face for the rest of his life. i strongly believe the honorable judge will give him a chance to try his best to lead a normal life. i'm hoping and waiting to see
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that at least as any 20-year-old would. thank you. >> both of those numbers there not too longing ago. neither family happy with the sentence today. we'll get a little more reaction in court. i just want to welcome you in court. the editor letter set ravi free on out.com. what's your reaction to that? fair? >> first of all, my heart goes out to the clementi family. it would be very easy here to confuse the victim and the perpetrator here. there's one perpetrator here dharun ravi and one victim here, and that's tyler clementi. if you set to one side tyler clementi's suicide, which is not what the court was empowered to
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look into or determine, 30 days is, i think, a fair sentence for bias intimidation, which is what this court was set up to judge. >> especially when you think about he could have faced 10 years behind bars and possibly deportation back to india. i want to quote you hear. this really resonated when i read it. quote, it does beg questions about what purpose his imprisonment would serve. his being dharun ravi. will it honor tyler's legacy? will it prevent kids killing themselves? we should not reckon one life for the atonement of one that was lost. you don't say it would have been justice, it would have been revenge. but a lot of people are furious. they say the judge should have thrown the book at him. >> you know what, ravi did a terrible thing, a stupid thing and an offensive thing.
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sadly it's a common place thing. unfortunately there's a huge disconnect in our universities and our schools between children and young adults who feel like outsiders. and the kind of tribal mentality and instinct that guides the majority. this isn't an isolated experience. i think it's unfortunate that in the minds of the public and possibly the jury, tyler clementi is in the case of bias intimidation. nobody, not a doctodoctor, not psychologist, certainly not a jury, and neither parents can understand what drives a young person to take their own life. i think it's too simplistic to suggest there's a simple cause and effect here. ravi will live for the rest of his life with a question of whether he contributed in any way to tyler clementi's state of mind. but i think that's punishment enough. the real question here is how do
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we challenge bullying in universities. >> let me jump in because i do want to ask you about that. forgive me, but i do just want to play a little bit manier from inside the courtroom today. this is emotional. this is from tyler clementi's brother. take a listen. >> he could have never known the viper's nest he was walking into, nor could anyone in my family imagine a situation so horrible and cruel that he would need to be protected from. with dharun ravi as his teammate, my brother never could have had a chance of a happy and comfortable first smemester in college. >> at least this story thrust the national spotlight on teen suicide in the gay community, but ultimately the world has lost a young man and what is one to take away from this. >> sadly the world is losing young men and women all the
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time. suicide is an illness and it's a complicated and terrible thing. and i don't think in any way it takes away from that to question whether dharun ravi should have been sand standing trial potentially at one point with a ten-year sentence. but the fact is this did spark a national conversation and a really important conversation. in the days after tyler clementi's suicide, there were many others that came into the media spotlight of young lgbt teens and other teens as well, of course. i think there's a preponderance for the majority of suicide in high schools and universities to be lgbt student, but certainly not all of them. this is an epidemic. >> and it begins the conversation. aaron, i thank you. i hate having the conversation and i don't want to report on any more of these but, you know, the fact of the matter is, we may be.
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but at least we're talk act it. thank you very much. a trek to the highest peak ends in tragedy. i'm going to talk to the man who became the first american to reach the summit of mt. everest twice. he's going to talk to me about the thrill of the climb and living through the so-called death zone. and for all of you, if you're headed out door, you can keep watching us. we hope you do. grab your mobile phone. if you're at work, you can watch and work at the same time.
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. reports that two people were missing after three people had died. they reached the top. it was the trip down the mountain that proved deadly. everest, by the way, is more than 29,000 feet high, nearly as high as cruising altitude for planes. at the summit, the air only has 1/3 of the oxygen you get on the ground. and the wind at the top can be as bad as a category one hurricane. just to give you a little perspective. every year, people make the
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punishing climb. david, you have done this five times, reached the summit which is amazing in and of itself. as we talk about the loss of life here over the weekend, i understand the summit area is called the death zone. why? >> i think the man reason is because of the elevation, once you leave 26,000 people to make the climb to the summit. you're in a region where there's so little oxygen, it's hard to function properly. storms can come upon you very quickly. anothers pekt is that there's a temperament drive at this point, after months on the mountain to reach the summit, which affects decision making. and that alone is enough to call it the death zone. >> i know you spent us some pictures. perhaps we can throw them up. as uh yo mentioned, the oxygen
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is very anyone and there's pictures of people with these oxygen masks. here you are without the oxygen mask on. but these three people died actually on descent. you think you're fine but that's not the case. why? >> because people treat the summit as the finish hien. they put all their emergency into getting to the top and then they have this euphoria. a moment of great triumph of and then one has to get back to the safety of the high camp or you will surely perish at night at those elevations and those temperatures without the safety of a tent and the protection of a warm sleeping bag.
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>> i understand it was pretty populated over the weekend. 150 climbers wither trying to reach the peak. someone described it as a traffic jam. i know different camps, different altitudes and ultimately there's a traffic jam between the final camp and the summit. why does that make things more difficult. do people linger an they're not supposed to? >> i think if is there is a traffic -- hard to believe on earth's highest point -- then people can be delayed attending or descending. what happens is we're in a weather window. they're waiting for an abatement of the jet stream winds. so what one has is a tremendous
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number of climbers trying to reach the summit at the same time. nevertheless, the climbers should be able to make it back down. >> final question with these two that are still missing, is it survivable? >> i would have to know more about their condition and about the weather conditions but let's just say it's not a very good prospect for either of them. i won't be surprised to find out if they perished in the night. >> i understand one of them is. >> e-- is even a sherpa so know the mountain up and down. thank you so much. incredible. five times to the summit of mt. evere everest. still to. co-one of america's most famous colleges is suing the obama administration and notre dame's
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for the obama campaign, but he went way off book on nbc this weekend, slammed attack strategies from both sides. >> this kind of stuff is nauseating to me on both sides. it's nauseating to the american public. enough is enough. stop attacking private equities. stop attacking jeremiah wright. this stuff has got to stop. >> now, within hours of that interview, booker posted this nearly four-minute explanation of his comments on youtube. the obama campaign then tweeted out a 35-second edited version of that. here's the gist of it. >> i believe that mitt romney in many ways is not being completely honest and is using it to shape his political interesting not necessarily including all the facts of his time there. >> why don't we bring in the press secretary for obama 2012. welcome. question number one for you, did anyone from the white house or
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the 2012 campaign reach out to booker, make him reel his words? n? >> we did not. these are his own views in the video. he made absolutely clear that the discussion of mitt romney's private sector tenure was legitimate. the central plem misof his candidacy is his tenure as a corporate buyout specialist. mayor booker said an examination of that record is entirely appropriate. we go back and look at it. it turns out he profited off of bankrupting companies and outsourcing jobs. the question is, is that the economic philosophy the american people would like to see? >> hang on, i know cory booker is a rising star. he's superstar on twitter. you're telling me no one within the obama 2012 cam pane in any way reached out to cory booker to fix this? >> he released that video of his own volition. we did not ask him to do so.
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we did not, no. >> okay, okay. why not just tweet oit the link to booker's explanation that the four-minute explanation versus the edited 35-second clip? >> well, mayor booker released the full video to his followers. the organization of the remarks that we flagged specifically discuss whether or not this discussion of whether romney's private sector tenure was appropriate. this is the central rationale for his candidacy. this is his record he's put forward to the american people. we're comparing that record, one of the profiting off of bankrupting companies and outsourcing jobs to the president. somebody that believes that the success of the economy should be measured by a thriving middle class. investing in the middle class. in an economy where hard work and responsibility are rewarded and everybody plays by the same set of rules. those are the no the tenants of romney economics. and this just doesn't extend to his time at bain. it extends to his time in massachusetts.
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massachusetts ranked 35th out of 50th in job creation when he tooked office and drobed to 47th. that didn't happen by accident. it happens because of his poll spips. >> i understand what your campaign is trying to achieve. but just in terms of the tweets is what i'm asking about. 35 second versus the four minute. i just want to play for our viewers, part of booker's explanation that it's not actually in the version that you tweeted out. here you go. >> i was very frustrated this past week when i saw people dredging up the reverend wright, an already discussed issue as a way to undermine and aa tack our president. i've also expressed some frustration of afacemasks in other areas as well. >> so the other areas that ehe's talking about is a reference to the obama ads attacking romney on bain. and aren't you then mischaracterizing his statements to make him look, in your 3r5-second clip that he's criticizing just romney and not both campaigns?
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>> not at all. that video is available to all americans. you certainly played it on your show. listen, the fact is that this election will come down to an election between two candidates, two records and two visions for the country. the record that mitt romney has asked us to evaluate, his tenure as a corporate buyout specialist. we went back and looked at the transactions that he worked on. he was there from buyout to bankruptcy. the company was loaded up with .debt. workers were laid off. 250 workers in marion, indiana, the plant that we focused on today. but 1,500 workers across the country. and the fact is that regardless of what happened with the company itself, mitt romney and his partners maximized their return on their investment rather than investing in the long-term health of company itself without any -- >> let me just sdwrump in. because booker said as part of
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this add you' this ad, he said stop criticizing private equity. here's part of the d. >> to me, mitt romney takes from the poor, the middle class and gives to the rich. it's just the opposite. >> every person on the lower scale right now wants to work to the middle income. and they'll work theail off in this country to do it. and if mitt romney is in charge, i don't know if they'll get the opportunity at all. >> the last guy you saw, he's randy johnson. i'm just telling everyone else. democrats used joon son during the race back in 1994, the race against ted kennedy. and so conservatives like ann coulter, accusing johnson of leading this lay bror strike in '94. and they say that's the real reason the company went down the tubes. this union strike. i was reading "business week." stha ultimately called the bluff and laid off the workers. it was the union that took it
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down. >> this company was able to survive in good times and bad. but the fact is bbain came in, 'kwied it and loaded it up with debt and that's when their issues started. and certainly, the management practices changed the moment mitt romney and his partners came in. all the work es were laid off. security guards were placed at the door. they had to reapply for their jobs and accept a package of stripped down benefits. we're not questioning the private equity industry as a whole. we're questioning what lessons and values mitt romney took from that experience and whether that's the economic philosophy you would like to see in the oval office. that's not an economy built to last that focuses on the middle class. >> just a yes or no answer, is randy johnson on your payroll? it's been reported the dnc actually pays him to fly to rallies, yes or no? >> he is -- he's not on our payroll. he's certainly spoken out on behalf his experience with mitt romney. and certainly those
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cymbalta can help. go to cymbalta.com to learn about a free trial offer. l.a. last year, joplin, missouri mo, was devastated by a mass i have ef-5 tornado. but tonight is graduation. and joining me from joplin high school congratulations. i know you're smile, you're excited. and president obama headed to joplin to speak at your commencement tonight. what do you want to hear him say?
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>> first of all, thanks for having me. we want to hear him so congratulations. it's been a long year. we want to remember everything that's happened last year and how much people have struggled to get through it. but at the same time, it's our graduation and i would like to hear a big congratulations. >> i have a feeling you'll be getting that in spades. it's been a long year. the tornado totally took ott your high school. i understand you've been set up as part of this mall, the only mall in town. all your textbooks gone. if you can point to just one day, one example of just the toughest moment this past year for you, what was that? >> i think maybe the toughest day was the first day or even the first week of school when both the teachers and students were trying to get used to the new build, the entirely new style of learning and just, you know, school at a place wed never been to before.
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i mean, north park mall. >> the principal said you all had to grow up very quickly the night of the storm. i'm sure, though, the tornado really brought you all forg. how so? i know high school can be a pretty cliquey time. but i imagine that was all gone for you this year? >> yeah. one thing our principal pointed out is the we really only had one or two fights this year. we're a group of young adults who endured a really traumatic experience, it brings us together. all the petty high school drama takes a backseat to the bigger picture. >> good. it should. final question to you. i know you're headed a couple of hours down the road, university of missouri kansas city. what do you want to do? >> i want to be a physician. >> excellent. so we'll see call you doctor. few so mucthank you so much. and congratulations. money, sex power and allegations
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strauss-kahn may have participated in a gang rape. what do we know? >> it just gets worse for him. the prosecutor hasn't given a lot of details. what we do know is it voovs this prostitution ring bringing over women from belgium into france and apparently flying them to washington, d.c. and this is where that alleged gang rape is supposed to have taken place. but his lawyers have strenuously denied any wrong doing on behalf of their clients. they said he has never had any relationship whatsoever without the consent of his partner. so he's still going to have a lot to explain going forward. this session is still continuing, brooke. >> thank you. now this -- >> is it true you rolled a joint on the roof of the white house under president carter? >> no, i rolled it before i got
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up there. >> willie nelson, were you not afraid of getting caught? >> answer, also other revelations from the one and only willie nelson. i sat down with the redheaded stranger inside his tour bus before a recent show. don't miss this interview. have you ever partaken in a car insurance taste test before? by taste? yes, never heard of it. well, that's what we're doing today.
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every so often with my job i have to stop and pinch myself, especially when it comes to some of my music monday interviews. today's artist is no exception. he's known for his braids, his bandannas and his laid back ways. i visited his tour bus. eh strummed trigger, his 50-year-old guitar and i got an answer to a question i thought was merely myth. on this "music monday" i give you the willie nelson. ♪ >> you are almost 78 years young. does the legend status sit quell with you? >> well, i found out that all you have to do to be a legend is live a long time. never heard of a young legend.
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♪ i know that it's real i can be moving ♪ ♪ or i can be still but still the still ♪ ♪ moving to me >> i read that you're quite the jokester. >> i don't know who could have told you that. >> that when johnny cash would call you up in dire straits, you would tell a dirty joke or two. >> he would call me when hi wanted to hear a good joke. i always had a couple. i don't know. it cease just something -- i guess the performer is kind of the ham. if you're not sing, yo you are ear telling jokes. >> you're from a small town in texas. you picked cot top. >> yes, baled hayic culleds corn. all of that. >> and you sang along the way. >> all of us singing in the
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field. that's where i first learned about different kinds of music, working in the fields there in texas. and there was some mexicans over there singing their spanish songs. lied across the street from some mexicans and grew up in that music. and i hear it in my music all the time. a lot of black people working the fields, picking cotton along with me. and i learned a lot of their music. i heard -- it was like an opera out there in the cotton field. hearing one guy sing a line over here and another one answering over here. learned a lot about communicating. ♪ i can be moving or i can be sdil ♪ >> how did that influence who you are so many years la earth? >> well, i knew that wasn't what i wanted to do.
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i was picking cotton one day alongside the highway there that runs through abbott, hills borough, waco. a big cadillac came by, windows rolled up, air conditioning going. and that's when i decided there's got to be after better way. so i started thinking about how i could take the music. and it was just natural to start playing in the clubs around that area. my sister played at church. and got a little criticized later about playing in clubs at the same time i was teaching sunday school. >> ultimately you get to nashville and what was that experience like for you? because it wasn't like you just became a star. >> not really, no. not really. well, nashville was an education. we had always believed and been told that's where you go to sell your music.
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there was a few places in dallas maybe. if you're a texas musician and you want to make it, or a writer and you want to make it, you've got to go where the core was. and it was and still is in nashville. >> lived there. had a lot of time there. tell me about trigger. how old is he? >> about 50 years old. >> whoa!
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it's a he? he's been through a lot? h is it true you rolled a joint on the roof of the white house under president carter? >> no, i rolled it before i got up there. willie nelson, were you not afraid of getting caught? >> i should have been. >>. ♪ whereon where i am today ♪ i don't know where i was yesterday ♪ ♪ the song has so many notes to play ♪ ♪ i just hope that i hit them today ♪ >> oh, willie nelson, what a privilege. if you want to see, you want to retweet that interview or any of my other music monday interviews, go to my blog, cnn.com/brooke.
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