story from reporting by drew griffin and our producer, greg fitzpatrick. drew is going to join us again tonight because the story is still unfolding. the charity in question is the disabled veterans national foundation. that's their seal. they have raised nearly $56 million in the past three years. what's outrageous is that not one dime has actually gone directly to help disabled veterans. we have been showing you this now for a long time. you may what happened when drew tried to talk to the president, precilla wilkewitz. >> meet precilla wilkewitz, president of the disabled veterans national foundation. who we found at a small vfw office in baton rouge, louisiana. >> well, this is the veterans of foreign wars. i didn't think you'd do something like this. we've agreed to talk to you. answer your questions. >> nobody agreed. here is the question. none of the money has gone to any veterans, ma'am? okay so the bottom line is you're not going to give me an interview? >> cnn has been trying to get an interview for two years with the

disabled veterans national foundation, since we began tracking its fund-raising. we've gotten angry phone calls, angry e-mails, promises of written responses and now a slammed door, but no answers. >> and just think about this. if you would raise $56 million over three years and had something to show for it and given that money to veterans you would think you would want to explain yourself or show your bullocks and show all the veterans you have helped. they're not doing that. the charity dvnf does send some stuff to veterans groups, stuff they get for free and stuff that veterans groups say they don't need, they don't want, they can't use. here's one now infamous example -- coconut m&m's. thousands of packages. dvnf sent up with group more than 11,000 bags of m&m's. 2,600 bags of cough drops. 2,200 little bottles of sanitizer lotion. that's just apparently what they think disabled veterans need.

probably not. that's just stuff that they were given for free. veterans groups have also received bulk shipments of chef's aprons, military dress shoes. random donations so useless that vet groups have had to sell the items at yard sales to try to raise some money for things they actually need. where did the $56 million that the people donated to dvnf actually go? >> as far as we can tell, up to the tenth floor of this manhattan office building to a company called quadriga arts. a company that specializes in fund-raising. and as far as we can tell, quadriga arts knows a lot about fund-raising -- for itself. >> so this group quadriga arts is basically paid to build mailing lists for groups like dvnf. that's where the money trail took drew. they have more than 500 charities. so let's be clear here. the money trail leads from unsuspecting wallets of concerned americans, good people

like you, who donate money to the dvnf straight to the bottom line of a fund-raising company, the companies of quadriga arts and subsidiaries. but it's the charity, dvnf that is now being investigated because of the tampt-exempt status. and the words of senate baucus, quote, our veterans should never be use as pawns in a scheme to exploit the taxpayers. dvnf has a responsibility to show it's genuinely helping veterans and playing by the rules. senator baucus is joining us this. this is a bipartisan effort committeed also by richard burg of north carolina and joining us tonight is drew griffin. what your goal with this investigation? >> i don't want retired schoolteachers or any other good americans to be duped by these fraudulent organizations into giving money, thinking it's going to go to disabled vets

when in fact it's not at all. it's going to pad the pockets of some scam artists. i want to stop this stuff. >> what concerns you most about this disabled national veterans foundation? >> it sounds like it's a front. i don't think it's legit. they take about $56 million from ordinary, good americans who want to help veterans. but don't give any of the money to veterans. in this case, don't give any money to disabled veterans. it's an outrage, frankly. >> have you heard about the dvnf before? >> i have not, frankly. you highlighted it in one of your reports. we got to looking at it. asked a lot of questions at the organization, they're not answering. an outfit, they were given an "f." we spent more time looking at it. >> a big part of it seems to be all the money is being funneled to this organization, quadriga arts which basically organizations use to boost their mailing list. >> right.

>> and does that make sense to you and will that be part of the investigation as well? >> well, clearly, frankly, i smell a rat there. i have a hunch that that outfit, the mail order is using the veterans organization is a front for themselves. so they get the contributions from good, well-meaning americans thinking they're helping disabled vets when in fact the money is going to this other outfit, quadriga. as a fund-raising operation and none of the money is going to disabled vets. we're going to be looking at all that. i have a hunch unfortunately that there are other scam organizations like this as well. we'll do what we can to get to the bottom of it. >> drew griffin, you talked to another organization which also had a contract with quadriga that they're trying to get out of and off camera they acknowledged they were kind of trapped into the contract with this group. >> yeah. they were trapped. well, i'm saying that, they aren't saying that. they are in a long-term contract with -- for six years which lasts until 2014.

the national veterans foundation which took in $18 million -- excuse me, took in $22 million or $20 million and gave $18 million of it back to quadriga and its subsidiary brickmill. they said they weren't happy with how this all worked out. and they have severed ties with them and are now trying to break their contract. >> senator, big part of what drew has uncovered seems to be kind of a shell game. the charity dvnf, they take credit for enormous amounts of money on the tax returns, but deliver a lot of stuff to veterans groups, the veteran groups say they don't need, that it's basically useless, surplus dress shoes, hats, thousands of bags of coconut m&m's and they claim it as goods in kind. so it will look good to the irs. do you think the irs needs to take a hard look at what this group does for veterans? >> there's no question, there's some kind of a shell game, some kind of a scam going on here. and i don't know who's getting the money. it's certainly not the disabled vets who are getting the money. i have a hunch there are other

organizations like this. it may be partly the disabled veterans foundation, they're ripping people off. it could be the other outfit that is getting a lot of money that's on the receiving end of it. we need to get to the bottom of it. >> drew, you have been struggling for years to even get basic answers from dvnf and also this quadriga. >> yeah. for two years we get nothing but phone calls that aren't returned. you know, we've got a door slammed. we went out to sacramento last week trying to find the person who runs this dvnf. she was supposed to be at a concert and she cancelled at the last minute at a conference there. we want to ask the same questions that the senator is asking and that you're asking. how can americans who are so generous be pouring so much money and giving from their hearts to our disabled veterans right now coming back from the war, thinking the money is going to do good. it's doing no good, it's going

all the way to the fund-raiser. and number one, where is the money, from the senator, and from you, anderson, as i recall. how do you sleep at night? >> that's the question i'd like. i know that's not one of the questions you ask to the dvnf. that's probably one of the questions you would like to ask. how do the people who are raising money on the backs of the disabled veterans, and not giving it directly to the disabled veterans, i don't understand how they sleep at night. >> well, lots of people do good work and the country probably wouldn't exist without all of the chairable foundations we have in the country, but there are a few rotten apples that take advantage of good, gullible, american citizens. frankly it ticks me off personally because we in montana have the highest sign-up in the wars in afghanistan and in iraq per capita. we're patriotic and a lot of the men and women that come home, they're disabled and wounded. it makes me angry, frankly that some outfit wants to take

advantage of gullible people. for their own personal benefit at the expense of veterans. >> it makes it harder for reputable organizations that want to help, makes it harder for them to raise money. takes money away from them. i appreciate you being on this and we'll continue to follow your efforts and drew griffin as well. >> anderson, thank you for your good work because you spotlighted this. good work. >> well, drew griffin has done it all. i appreciate it. thank you. >> you bet. >> drew and david fitzpatrick, the producer. we talked about drew's many unsuccessful attempts to get the dvnf president precilla wilkewitz to talk about the charity she runs. this evening, the group sent this statement that reads in part, the disabled veterans national foundation has helps tens of thousands of veterans with aid and supplies that have made a difference in their lives. media reports about our activities have been plain wrong and we welcome the opportunity to set the record straight. let me point out for the record, we have given them multiple opportunities to try to set the record straight in their words.

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depends in part upon the rate of growth of the globe. as well as what we're seeing here in the united states. but get the rate down quite substantially. >> now, his critics say that he's essentially promising that something right there that may happen anyhow no matter who's in office. in the words of the congressional budget office's project earlier this year, as economic growth picks up in 2013, the unemployment rate will decline to around 7% by the end of 2015. before dropping to near 5% by the end of 2017. by the end of 2016, the cbo estimates the jobless rate will be 6.3% which is pretty close to what governor romney is promising. that 6% he mentioned to eed tod also a lower standard than he's holding the white house accountable to. in the last batch of jobless numbers came out, you may remember he said anything over 4% is not cause for celebration. whatever the figure though, he mentioned jobs and his knowledge about how to create jobs. whenever and wherever he can. >> i know what it takes to create jobs. >> not just watch jobs being created but actually creating

jobs. i will first make america the most attractive place in the world for job growth. for investment. for small business. for big business. i understand what it takes for businesses to thrive and create jobs. >> create real jobs. >> create jobs. >> create jobs. >> create jobs. >> it's time for someone who knows how to create jobs. >> so keeping them honest, how did he do actually when he was chief executive of a big state, massachusetts? the campaign says, quote, as governor, he confronted an economy very similar to obama's economy. they went on to say, under his leadership and economic reforms the massachusetts unemployment went from 5.6% to 4.7%, and the state had a positive record of nearly 50,000 new jobs created. that is absolutely true. however, northeastern university economist andrew sung tells "the washington post" the jobless rate fell because so many people left the work force. and in fairness, the same thing is happening to president obama now. governor romney is blaming the president for that and taking

credit for the same thing when he was governor in massachusetts. governor romney inherited hard economic times in massachusetts when he started office, but there were hard economic times nationwide. while there was some recovery during his time in office as he rightly points out there was recovery nationwide. when compared to the rest of the country in fact the job market in massachusetts was slower to recover than all but three other states. 47th nationally in job creation. one of the other states as james carville pointed out night was louisiana, hit by hurricane katrina. now as governor romney faced a democratic controlled legislature and could not enact all the programs he wanted, that's also true. that's one of the things he points out. the fact remains when he took office the state ranked 37th in job creation. went from number 37 to 47. i'm joined by gloria borger and candy crowley, host of "state of the union." gloria, does it surprise at this point that the obama campaign is focusing more on bain capital than they are about his

massachusetts job creation record, or do you think it's just a matter of time? >> i think it's a matter of time. we're starting to hear more of it now. they'll start to talk ago the job creation numbers. i think the reason they decided to do bain capital first is this is a moment when you try to define your moment. they have looked at the polls. they see that mitt romney does best when it comes to the question of who's better able to manage the economy. so they kind of want to disqualify his business experience argument. and also, bain capital for them or so they think allows them to make a values argument against mitt romney to say you know what, this man doesn't have the values to be president because he's really not a job creator like he's telling you. actually, he is a job killer. and so they'll move on from this to the massachusetts story you can be sure that'll be coming up next. >> but candy, all of mitt romney's republican challengers during the primaries they used the massachusetts argument to

try -- tried to use it against mitt romney but it didn't seem to work with voters. >> right. and this is why the struggle for who gets to define you takes so long. we don't know yet how the general public -- that was a republican group. in fact, it got quite upset for some of the opponents for going after bain, the vulture language, he was a raider, et cetera et cetera. did not sit well with that particular group. we don't know how it will sit in particular with the six, seven, eight, nine percent of swing voters who will probably end up deciding this race. i think it matters where they live. i think it matters, you know, in what areas they think this economy is weak. and it also matters, anderson, not just what mitt romney has done or what barack obama has done. but who they think actually might be able to take the country into the future. so they're not just selling their past records.

they're selling -- to bring it back up again, they're selling hope. whoever can do that best and say i'm your guy is going to win. >> but clearly the obama campaign wants to make this election not a referendum on president obama's record, of economic -- his economic record, but a referendum on a choice between these two candidates. >> right. they definitely want to make it a choice. and that's why they're talking about bain capital and the president the other day saying, look, mitt romney may have some business experience, but it's not the kind of experience you would need as president. but in the end, anderson, when you have an incumbent president, he's got a record. that he's got to define. and if the american public doesn't think you've done a good job, they're not going to rehire you. that's what worries the obama campaign right now, are some of the economic numbers which show there was one today in "the wall street journal"/nbc poll which said over 60% of the american

public doesn't believe their children's lives are going to be better than their lives. that's a very difficult number if you're sitting there in chicago running the obama campaign. >> it is difficult, candy, to overcome. the flip side if that's an upward trend headed into the fall, then romney has to come up with other viable plan "b." >> i think he has has plan "b" out there, which is listen, we're all happy that the economy is getting better. they have already had to deal with this wbecause there are signs that the economy is better. it's clearly better than when president obama took office. the question is they'll posit it from camp romney is look how much money we spent to get it to this point. he's going about this the wrong way. he drove us into debt to, you know, the tune of almost $1 trillion with the stimulus plan and other things he's doing and he's still headed in the wrong direction. so the plan "b" is already kind of out there. right now, it's about how good

is the economy. but it will also be how much does it cost to get us here, which everybody admits is not far enough. >> and it's -- mitt romney is going to say, if i had been president we would have gotten there faster. >> thank you very much. and a doctor who helped to track down osama bin laden getting a 33-year sentence in pakistan for treason. details ahead. last season was the gulf's best tourism season in years. in florida we had more sun tans... in alabama we had more beautiful blooms... in mississippi we had more good times...

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tonight's 360 world view. a doctor in pakistan has been sentenced to 33 years in prison for treason for helping the united states track down osama bin laden. you heard that right. this man who attempted to help capture the mass murderer has been sentenced to prison for 33 for trying to help. his name, shakeel afridi and the tribal court after a two month trial, the tribal justice system didn't allow him to defend

himself. they helped the cia use a vaccination campaign to try to verify bin laden's presence where he was killed in may of 2011. actually didn't work. a statement from the u.s. senators called the sentence shocking, outrageous. i want to talk about it with fran townsend, a member of the advisory board for the cia and department of homeland security. it's incredible that this would happen. how do you explain it? >> well, i mean, first, you know, there's lots we don't know, anderson, because it remains heavily classified. we don't know whether or not the cia had planned to exfiltrate him and they were unsuccessful or if he didn't want to go. a lot of times the asset doesn't want to leave. so we don't know why he remained after the raid. look, this tribal court is not anything anybody -- any american would associate with due process, right? as you said he couldn't defend himself. it was very limited in terms of the process that was wrapped around this. what hasn't happened yet is

there's an ongoing federal investigation in pakistan where they're looking at treason charges. the federal case, when that comes to a conclusion if he's charged with treason, he could face the death penalty. >> is it possible that the federal court could overturn the tribal court in pakistan? >> our understanding from the pakistani experts, dr. afridi could appeal into the federal system and depending on who you talk to, it sounds as though he'd have a good chance of getting it overturned. there's high-stakes diplomacy going on. we know that senator clinton intervened on his behalf and the other senior level visits, chairman of the joint chiefs, secretary panettpanetta, david petraeus. >> is this the kind of thing that in a back room a deal could be made? >> sure. we have seen that, the cia contractor who was held for an extended period of time and ultimately he got out because there was money paid to the family of the victim.

so, yes, there are -- what's most important is both sides have to be careful about how strident their public statements are. because of course there are these back-room negotiations going on. they have to give themselves -- >> so the more they yell about it in public on the u.s. side, then the harder some sort of negotiation or deal becomes? >> that's right. because in the end, both sides are going to have to claim they got something. >> but relations between pakistan and the u.s., i mean, are at a really, really bad point. >> that's exactly right. so likely, with the pakistanis are looking for out of the afridi negotiation is some leverage. what they want is some commitment from the united states that in terms of going on a go-forward basis that the u.s. won't use pakistani citizens on pakistani soil without working those assets jointly. >> right. interesting. fran, appreciate it. there's a lot more we're following tonight. isha is here with the 360 news and business bulletin. >> mark sullivan apologized on capitol hill for the prostitution scandal plaguing his agency. in a grilling by a panel,

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hey, welcome back. we're digging deeper tonight on the north carolina pastor who preached about a plan to eliminate all gays an lesbians using electrified fences. his name is charles worley, he preaches not far from charlotte, north carolina. a couple of weeks ago on mother's day he lashed out at president obama's support for same-sex marriage and laid out his plan for eliminating gays and lesbians. >> i figured a way to get rid of all of the lesbians and queers. but i couldn't get it past through congress.

build a great big large fence, 150 or a 100 mile long. put all the lesbians in there. fly over and drop some food. do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. and have that fence electrified until they can't get out. feed them and you know what? in a few years they'll die out. do you know why? they can't reproduce. >> if you think his words were taken out of context, in the same sermon he doubled down saying he knew what he was saying was controversial. >> i'll tell you right now, somebody said who you going to vote for? i ain't gonna vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover. >> amen! >> he said, did you mean to say that? you better believe i did. >> amen. >> god have mercy. it makes me puking sick.

>> well, his church apparently saw nothing wrong or surprising about the sermon because they posted it on the website. a group called the catawba citizens against hate is organizing a protest this weekend. they're expecting so many people they're moving the protest to the bigger location. despite all this, he's not backing off his message. this past sunday he preached again about gays and lesbians. his tone and language seemed more restrained, but his message was clear. >> all of the sodomites and lesbians and what's the other word? >> gays? >> gays, i didn't want to say queers, saying we don't love you. i love you more than you love yourself. i'm praying for you to be saved and you can't go to heaven unless you're washed in the blood. and god saves us from our sins, not in our sins.

>> well, we sent gary tuchman to north carolina to try to talk to the pastor in person. for two days he's tried to track him down through e-mails, showing up at his church. none of that has worked. he has talked to other people in the community. gai y gary joins me now. gary, what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, we know where pastor worley is, anderson. he's right in the sanctuary behind me because for the second night in a row, there's a special prayer service going on inside this church. there are hundreds of people inside right now. these are people who support their pastor. and support what he said on mother's day. normally when we cover stories, we're allowed in any church. we have been told by the sheriff's office here that if we step foot on this property we'll be subject to arrest and that's because the church told the county sheriff's office to say that. so we have not been able to talk to this pastor. we can tell you we spent part of the day talking to a woman who has been up to 20 of the services over the year and has heard this pastor's sermon at least 20 times over the years. she's not one of the people

inside this building. we'll tell you why. we'll call her jane. there are two reasons she's not here. she's not a member, she goes because a close relative is a member. but the number two reason is the more important reason -- she's a lesbian who lives here and she's outraged about the comments. however, she has a complex feeling about the pastor. we're protecting her identity because although she's open about being a lesbian, she has two small children. her children's friends parents, not all of them know she's a lesbian. >> when you heard these comments that he made on mother's day, pastor worley, how did you feel? >> i was saddened. i was disappointed. >> were you surprised? >> i was not surprised. >> and tell me why you weren't surprised. >> i have been aware of his opinions and his beliefs about homosexuality. >> have you heard him utter similar comments over the years when you have attended the church? >> i have heard comments along

those same lines in the past. >> if you had a chance to talk to him now and perhaps you will soon because it's a small town, would you say something to him about this? >> i would -- i would say hello. i would extend my hand. and i would say you've been going through a tough time, this was a very difficult situation for our community. and i pray for you, for hope, healing, peace, tolerance. >> well, gary, there's word of protest here this weekend. what are you hearing about that? >> reporter: yeah, what we're being told by the civil rights group they expect up to 2,000 people to turn out in this county. you mentioned before they have to move the location they wanted to do it here, but it's too small of an area. they expect a very large protest. i should tell you, anderson, like i said, we have been trying to talk to the pastor, we talked to one woman who left the service. all she would tell us is that this pastor is shocked at the

national reaction to what's happened. >> gary, appreciate the reporting. pastor worley has strong support within the community. there's some 1,200 seats in his church. gary said there's a service going on right now. stacy pritchard is one of the church members. she joins us tonight. i know you're a defender of pastor worley. do you agree with his statements that he said on the pulpit that gays and lesbians should be put in -- behind electrified fences until they die out? >> i believe that that was taken -- i mean, yes, he said that, but of course he never want that to be done. of course, people are going to take it and make it their own way and make it into what they want to. but i agree with what the sermon was and what it was about. >> but you're saying he doesn't want it done, but he said he wanted it done on the -- he said it from the pulpit. how -- why do you interpret that's not what wants?

>> as i say, let me try to say it a different way. maybe -- maybe that's what he felt like should be done. i mean, it can be said either way. okay, to make the short of it, yes i agree with him. if they can't get the message that that's wrong, then, you know, they can't reproduce and eventually they would die. >> so you believe only that gay people are only born of other gay people? you're saying -- >> what? >> you're saying they can't reproduce so therefore they would all die off? aren't gay people born -- >> if a man -- >> gay people get born to straight parents all the time, no? >> no, that's not what i meant. if man and man were in the same fence, and women were in the same fence, they can't reproduce together. that's what i mean. >> right. but that wouldn't eliminate all gay people. there would be more gay people born outside the fence to straight people. wouldn't there?

>> exactly. but we were meaning the ones in there. see, it's all taken out of context and twisted. the main point is always the same. >> so what is it about gay people that are worse than adulterers who leviticus points out and people who curse their mothers and fathers who should be put to death, and promiscuous girls who can be put to death in deuteronomy? what makes gay people worse from those people? >> from the bible this is no difference. that's what he was talking about. >> so you believe people who -- you believe adulterers should be put to death because there's in the bible? >> like you said, like it was said, you know, just not really whatever happened, but yeah, okay, i'm not going to keep answering the same question over and over again. yes. >> does it seem christian to you

though to talk about putting people behind electrified fences and watching them die? because i have talked to a number of pastors over the past couple of days who says that doesn't sound very christian. that doesn't sound like the message of love they hear in the bible. >> people keep harping harping harping on the electric fence, this and that. it's about the homosexuals and it's wrong. that's what it's about. >> but you would understand why some people would be -- would feel this is -- this is wrong to say. i mean, you say people are harping on it. do you understand why some people might be concerned? if some people were talking about putting jews behind electrified fences, i imagine that would be of concern to you. >> well, you know, it's not -- here we go again. you know, nobody is going to put them behind an electric fence. >> actually. that has happened. it's called the holocaust. it has happened.

you said nobody will kill homosexuals, it's happening right now in iraq and iran. >> this is 2012. >> it's happening right now in iraq and iran in 2012. >> and you know what? this is a pastor that speaks the word of god. anybody can take it any way they want to. if they don't like it they don't have to. they can turn around and go on. >> stacy pritchard, i appreciate you being on the program. i know it's a difficult topic, thank you. >> sure, yeah, thank you so much. >> one of the supporters of pastor worley in town in north carolina. a new development in the death of a florida a&m drum major who died after enduring a fellow hazing ritual. grass fed. curry. gingersnaps. soup can tower. 5% cash back. right now, get 5% cash back at grocery stores. it pays to discover.

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tonight, a 360 following the hazing case that led to the suspension of the florida a&m's marching band and 13 people. now 11 are charged with third-degree hazing. he was beatb to death on a bus after a football game. and according to court documents released today, some of the band members charged in the death told police that champion chose to go through the hazing ritual that ended up killing him. cnn's george howell joins me now. we have learned a lot of stuff we didn't know before in the documents. >> yes. you know, basically, we are getting a better sense of the politics of hazing. we're hearing from the witnesses, some of the suspects. the statements that they gave the investigators and they describe hazing as a rite of passage or a ritual. something band members wanted to go through. they also say and we heard this from two people at a former drum major, that robert champion

wanted to go through with hazing. now, anderson, you know, pam champion said her son did not want to go through hazing. this flies in the face of that. in fact, along with the hundreds of thousands of documents that were released, there were some audio recordings. you can hear one of the drum majors talking about the fact that robert wanted to go through with it. listen. >> did you talk to robert before this went on? because you said it was against what he believed. >> yeah. >> did you guys have a conversation about the fact that -- about what you were doing? >> we were talking about it. he didn't want to do it. but he said i'm going to do it. i told him, i said, if you don't want to do it, don't do it. you don't got to do it, like, you don't have to do it. >> so doing it is a way to gain respect in the squad. >> getting credibility. yeah. you know, pam champion held a news conference in atlanta described this as shocking and described it as character assassination against her son seeing that the band members are doing whatever they can do to

protect themselves, to pass the buck. >> there's also more details about what happened on the bus. >> these witnesses the suspects, they paint this picture. on the bus, on november 19th, so the bus was dark. this apparently happened toward the back of the bus. some witnesses say there were adults, supervisors, on the bus in front. but again this happened toward the back. they describe the two hazing rituals. the first is the hot seat. where a person sits in a seat and a band member put a blanket over the person. beat and punch repeatedly. the other is crossing bus "c" and they describe this as robert champion trying to get to the back of the bus, but other band members pulling him back, trying to stop him from getting there, all the while attacking him. >> i appreciate the reporting, thank you very much. isha is back with the 360 bulletin. a historic day in egypt. the polls are closed in the presidential election more than a year after the uprising that brought down hosni mubarak. with 13 candidates on the ballot, results aren't expected until the weekend. if no candidate wins a majority,

a second round of voting is set for mid june. a programming note, besure to tune in this friday night at 8:00 and 10:00 eastern for our special report. arab spring revolution interrupted. our focus will be on egypt and syria and other countries in the headlines. former secretary of state colin powell said today he supports same-sex marriage in the situation room with wolf blitzer. he said legal same-sex marriage seems to be the way we should be moving in this country. and he has no problem with it. three investors have filed a class action lawsuit over last week's facebook ipo. the lawsuit claims performance estimates for the company were not shared with all investors. facebook says the lawsuit has no merit. and a library of congress has added 25 songs to the national recording registry. some you might recognize. charlie brown christmas. yeah. >> i like that one. >> you do? >> yes. >> i have donna summer on that for you. "i feel love." sugar hill gang's rapper's delight.

and prince and the revolution's purple rain. to be clear, to be added to the registry the songs have to be ten years ago and culturally and historically or aesthetically significant. >> okay. they seem like good choices then. >> any of them on your playlist? >> not currently, no. no. >> what -- so what's on your playlist? >> a lot of rihanna. i run to rihanna a lot. i know. >> that's a very surprising admission from you. >> is it really? >> you never fail to surprise me. >> what? i like to run to like poppy stuff. pop stuff. >> i'm just saying it's kind of cool. >> i don't think it's cool. i don't think -- >> rihanna, you don't think rihanna is cool? >> i like rihanna a lot. clearly. i think she's very talented. >> she's cool, not you. that was the point i'm making. >> well, thank you. i appreciate that. ow. that hurt. words hurt, isha. >> don't be like that. i'm here to make you cool. >> oh, well, thank you. yes, i will draft in your

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