tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN May 29, 2012 4:00am-5:00am EDT
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pressed up against your face, shot at close range. that's because their murders, reportedly government militias, did their killing face to face friday night after a day of antiassad protest in hula. first tanks shelled the neighborhood. then men in uniform began going door to door. one neighborhood boy said he watched as a militia man, grabbed his friend, a 13-year-old and shot him in the head. they forced their father to watch as they killed them. >> i watched the bodies of nine children, he's saying. one less than nine months old. did the infant carry an rpg, he asks? was he a fighter? he had a pacifier in his mouth. over the weekend that baby and dozens more were washed covered in white sheets as you see and layed in rows, row after row of shrouded figures. then with a war raging all around them, the bodies were
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buried. you see the make shift cinder block wall being used to try to keep the rows of body separate to preserve at least some shred of dignity in death. they had no dignity in life because of this what regime did to them. the assad regime denies it all blaming it as always on terrorist the. first though, keeping them honest. all of this is happening with u.n. observers on the ground in syria. not very many of them, to be sure. they're unarmed. they can't do a thing to stop the slaughter. they're supposed to be monitoring the truce brokers by kofi annan who's in damascus, a truce that the is a sad regime has flagrantly violated from day one. the outrageous use of force against civilians violated international law and commitments the syrian government has made. it also demanded that the regime denied with the annan plan. something we reported night
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after night it has never, ever done. also, the final security council statement did not directly blame the regime for friday's massacre. that's remarkable. an earlier draft did, but russia which has veto power, did. they likend the slaughter in syria, the slaughter of children, to a night at the disco. >> you know, it takes two to dance. it takes two to tango. even though in the current situation in syria what we have is not the real tango, maybe having a disco party where many players are dancing. there's no dancing the same way -- >> syria, he says, is a disco party. as we mentioned, the assad regime disavows it all. >> translator: we absolutely deny that the government's armed forces had any responsibility in committing such a massacre.
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we also condemn this absurdity in blaming the government's armed forces on the foreign ministerial level and not just on the level of the media outlets. >> these people have been lying now for more than 14 months. they have repeatedly denied the murder of children. this whole uprising, as you'll remember, began after children gra fee at thissed aibt government slogans in daraa. that's how it began, with children. over the past 14 months, they have been shot, tortured. this latest mass is a carey is happening a year almost to the day since the broken body of this little boy was returned to his family. he had been tortured. his body reportedly mutilated. he was killed by the security forces. now a year later the world is apparently stunned that so many children will be killed at close range in hul a. i don't know why anyone is surprised by the slaughter. we can't pretend we have not seen it before in syria. we cannot pretend we didn't know
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this was happening or would happen again. we have watched it day after day, night after night. we know the names of the dead. we have seen their small, shattered bodies. we cannot pretend we did not know. alex thompson is a correspondent for britain's channel 4. he was in hula yo a overnight. you've said we've only seen fleeting glimpses. describe what you witnessed. >> i hope you hear there's a big firefight going on. we got into the southern sector, which is where there are some syrian troops, and we stopped and there was a firefight at that point. so we took shelter in a building. i looked across from where i was and four feet from where i was there was a body covered with a blanket. when i pulled that blanket back it revealed an old man way beyond fighting age, 75, 80 years old who had a gunshot wound to the head.
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a few feet away i pulled over another blanket. there was a body of a girl who was not more than 5 or 6. she had a gunshot wound in her chest. and i put the blanket back and gave her whatever little dignity you can give to somebody in that situation. now those bodies will not have been discovered by the u.n. convoy because they bypassed them and went further into town. i'm telling you tonight that however many bodies they think were recovered and however many people have been killed in hula, the number is in fact greater than that. >> the assad regime is denying any responsibility for this, but as we know, over the last 14 months or so they have lied repeatedly and we have seen children repeatedly targeted, tortured to death and sent back to their families. is there any reason to believe anybody other than government forces or government supporters did this massacre? >> reporter: i don't believe there is, but there's proof on the ground. if you go to hula, tell me this.
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why is it that the area which is connected -- which is controlled by the government, by the syrian army troops is a goehost town, deserted? there are no civilians. why is that? there are lots and plenty of civilians in the other sector of town that is controlled by the rebels. why do the civilians flee the areas where their own government soldiers are yet they remain in areas where the rebels are. the obvious inference from that evidence on the ground is clearly the people feel safer with the rebels. >> alex, do you find it extraordinary with 14 months of this crackdown and all the deaths we have seen, people are still coming out to protest after being in thamas on friday and that is what caused this government to come into the town
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after friday plraers. i find that extraordinary. >> reporter: i think when the people have the mood and the bit between their teeth, that matters more to them. that said, what you have to understand is that 99% perhaps of the syrian country is relatively peaceful. very specific where the fighting is going on and the fact that the russian foreign minister has said only today that the only thing russia is interested in pursuing is the assad plan, i have to say that's an invitation to civil war. >> alex, we've seen children killed throughout this conflict, but to see so many over the weekend, so many people ask the question. how is it snob why would a regime kill children like this? >> reporter: what goes through the 3450i7bds and what the tactic is, from these armed militias, who went building by building, house by house, family and family, and slaughtered
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people in houla is beyond the comprehension of most sir yas. >> alex thompson, we can hear the fighting in the background. stay save. >> reporter: thank you. >> the question is what can, what should be done about it. there are global sanctions on syria now. the obama administration has called for assad's departure. promised communication for opposition forces. over the weekend romney called on the president to arm them. >> horrible things are happening in syria. this administration has a foreign policy which abandons american leadership. i know because i visit with these people that they are ready to help these people. it cries out for american leadership. american leadership is not there. >> departing senate colleague, richard luger says president obama has been cautious on syria. in his words, quote, i think properly so.
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you heard alex thompson talk about it. fuwadi, you and i were on the border a couple of weeks ago. the world cannot say they didn't know this was happening. everybody is shocked at the death toll over the weekend, this massacre of children. we've seen them killed for 14 months. >> you were there and you talk to people, you talked to one boy, i never forget him, who said we can't live like this. we want our freedom. these people want their freedom. i tell you one thing, anderson, this massacre, the houla massacre, is a turning point. this is a turning point. >> you believe it's a turning point. >> i'll tell you why, because most of the killing was done by the villages that surrounded houla. here you have a very, very quaint place. in my childhood, we thought of houla as a place of no
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significance. it wasn't the army, it wasn't the forces of bashar al-assad, it was the surrounding villages that came and did the fighting. we have come to that point. >> do you agree this can be a turning point? >> anderson, i hope so. this is, as you point out, has been going on for 14 months as the world has sat and watched this. it really is extraordinary to me to see this kind of bloodshed and this level of violence visited upon children where the world seems unwilling to act. look, syria is a much more complicated situation, we've said it before, than libya. it has more so he physician if i dated air defense, more sophisticated military and it has clients. russia, the russian foreign minister made these outrageous statements at the u.n. russia's responsible for vieding the arms. >> saying it's a disco party or two to tango, there's some
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equivalent between the regime and opposition parties are not true. >> it's not true. it belies the cover. if ever there was a point that we could say this is the turning point between the massacre and the houla and these outrageous statements by the russians and the syrians and the iranians, the militia forces are also there advising the syrians, these things coming together ought to be a turning point for the international community. >> for those who are horrified by what happened, look, the u.s. should not be intervening, what are the options? >> they're now talking about in deference to the russians, i love that, we have been going to them. we went to them a year ago and they voe towed the revolution. we know what the russians will do. we are going to the russians. the obama administration has been going to the russians repeatedly in order to be
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rebuffed and in order to have its own cover. the obama administration has brilliantly depicted this fight and the choices for the united states as either boots on the ground or head in the sand. since we don't want to have boots on the ground then the argument is we do nothing. you don't even hear the president talking about syria. there is no passion. for all the time that the obama administration has been saying, oh, you know, syria is not libya, guess what, now they say syria is yemen. we now have in deference to the russians, the variant we can have -- >> get the president to resign, step down. have the vice president take over. >> good luck to that. good luck to that. it truly is in this case syria anti-yemen. bashar al-assad -- >> this is a man whose father,
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for those who don't know, slaughtered 10,000 people, a conservative estimate, in 1982. so he comes from a tradition. i mean, it does not seem there is any limit to the number of people they are willing to kill. >> no, that's exactly right. bass saar al a shad's disadvantage, however, so many decades later, there's the internet, youtube. we can see the pictures of the slaughter. so the notion that this can go on, this is why i say the notion that it can go on 14 months with the videos, with the pictures, with the international community. >> saudi arabia, qatar has talked about funding, giving money for opposition forces to buy arms, but where is the rest of the world on this? >> i think in this kind of american world, we remain in the american world, if the united states doesn't come to the rescue, no one will come to the rescue. once the united states leaves
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the turks will provide the buffer. the saudis will follow, but without american leadership, believe me, everyone will dodge and everyone will wait for the united states. i used to believe if there is a syrian chef verdict neets is a, we were pushed into bosnia by the horror, i don't even know. if there is one of those in syria, i'm not sure we would come to the rescue. >> you go to the camps and the syrian people feel like they have been abandoned. they know they've been abando d abandoned. they know this. >> to his point, what you need is american leadership. it is a false choice that we can do nothing or we can put boots on the ground. frankly, the americans can provide the infrastructure and the support to pull together the international community. we can help to arm the rebels. we can give them the communications gear so they can get out of the way of syrian forces. we can help provide them safe
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haven and safe passage. there's many things we can do short of boots on the ground, short of dropping missiles which we're not doing and i don't understand it. >> we'll see if this is a turning point of some sort. it got a lot of attention. all of the deaths of all the children it has not. fran, i appreciate you being here and fuad. on facebook i'm tweeting about this now on anderson cooper. new information on the disappearance of he tan pats. the alleged confession came to a church group. ♪ [ male announcer ] you're at the age where you don't get thrown by curveballs. ♪ this is the age of knowing how to get things done.
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welcome back. crime and punishment. the new york city sanitation department says the sanitation department has been in touch asking about the pick up and dumping policies. a man has confessed to killing him and disposed the body inside a garbage bag. his name is pedro hernandez. he's kept on suicide watch at new york's bellevue hospital. tonight a relative claims to have reported a similar confession to police in camden, new jersey, back in the '80s. relatives said they went in to
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police and told them that he confessed to killing a child. he also confided to a church group. a lot to talk about from author lisa cohn. "after etan." marsha clark, she's recently with the courtroom thriller, "guilt by association." you did so much research on this to write the book. did you know the name? >> no. i didn't know it at all. that's not to say he wasn't talked to or he wasn't considered, but i had never heard of the many suspects whose names sort of came across my view. i had never heard his name at all until last week. >> does the story to you make sense? i mean, this was such a huge story in new york city at the time. i grew up in new york. i remember it well as a kid. the idea that pedro hernandez would be able to put him in a bag or a box and leave him on the street to be picked up by garbage i find hard to believe. >> well, especially since it was
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friday of memorial day weekend. so it's unclear when exactly he put him out on the street, bud then there would have been saturday, sunday, monday during which time there would have been hundreds of police swarming the streets looking for the child. >> if you look at any cop show, they always check the garbage routes, who's picked up garbage. you would think that they would have done that back then. >> yeah. i honestly don't know. i know that there were people going rooftop to rooftop. there were helicopters flying overhead. there were, you know, dogs. there were -- i mean, in the hundreds. and it is a little bit surprising. >> marsha, this is a case with no forensic evidence, no eye witness evidence, just a confession of a man who's now pleading not guilty. there are reports that the manhattan d.a. refused to sign off. what do you make of the decision
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to bring charges now? >> it's difficult. it's very difficult. as you mentioned, anderson, without any forensic evidence to corroborate this confession, it makes it very difficult to believe him. this is a man who has been noted to be mentally unstable, who's been diagnosed as schizophrenic. this is a fundamental problem with what do we credit? now the more statements you have from more sources that are independent of one another, the more it makes that confession possibly more reliable. so you have this church group that did not report. no one in the church group to whom he confessed reported the statements. if they do match up to the statements he made to his family and if they are statements that also indicate an intimate knowledge of details that he couldn't have known by reading the 35i7er or watching television, then perhaps you have something. it fakes a great deal to make a confession stand up in court. >> marsha, i was asking people on twitter if they thought the
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church group should have reported to the authorities. does it surprise -- is a church group under any obligation, marsha, legally to report? >> well, there is an obligation to report when you've seen a felony being committed. i don't know that it could be prosecuted, especially after all of this time. the problem with a crime like this, if they say this guy was prone to saying all kinds of things, we didn't take him seriously, then you'll have a hard time prosecuting them. there is a duty to report when you have evidence of a felony, particularly a homicide. whether anyone will be held accountable for that is very doubtful. someone should have. apart from the law, anderson, if someone is in a church group and here a person has confessed to a murder, you don't wait to find out whether you rely on it, you report it to the police because you never know. >> right. lisa, the flip side to the argument is he's on medication, mentally unstable, who else would do this other than somebody who may be mentally
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unstable or have some serious issue. so i guess that kind of cuts both ways. you actually spoke to etan's father today. how are they doing? >> they're doing okay. one of the things that happens is they get besieged by press. they are stuck in their house. they can't go outside. i think -- >> they've been through this now on and off for 33 years. >> yeah. he -- stan patz is one of the most methodical, calm people i know. he doesn't ever pass judgment quickly. he's had 33 years to think about things. and usually the investigation is moving along very, very slowly. >> it surprises you how this investigation has been handled. you're saying it's been done backwards. >> it is. by definition that's the way it had to be done, right? last week somebody walked in and confessed, right? so i guess they had a choice. someone has in a very sort of
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emotional and detailed way giving us a statement, what are we going to do. they don't have any of the investigative part of it done. now is the time to go back and try to peace together everything he said and see whether they can check it out. >> lisa cohn, thank you, marsha clark. "guilt by degrees" is the new one. marcia's will be a best seller. protesters gather in a small town in north carolina who spoke out about gays and lesbians. gary tucker tracked him down. that's next.
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the local new hampshire says the pastor got a standing ovation. hundreds of people gathered to protest the pastor's message outside. gary tuchman went to north carolina to ask him whether he stands by his words. we'll have that in a moment. but first how this all happened in the sermon on may 13th. he railed against president obama's support for same-sex marriage and talked about how he would eliminate gays and lesbians. >> i figured a way out -- a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers. but i couldn't get it past the congress. build a great, big, large fence -- 150 or 100 mile long. put all the lesbians in there. fly over and drop some food. do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. feed them. and you know what? in a few years they'll die out.
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do you know why? they can't reproduce. >> since that sermon gained nationwide attention, he refused to talk to reporters. he's not returned our calls. gary tuchman went to ask him in person. he's not returned our calls. >> reporter: we haven't seen or heard from pastor charles worley since his anti-gay sermon went viral. until now. pastor would you like to take back anything you said pastor, we want to give you a chance to take anything back. if you care too. pastor worley had plenty of opportunity to answer either question. he chose not to. instead he was on his way to his church for a sunday service. on the same day that hundreds of people from north carolina and other parts of the country protested the pastor's new infamous sermon. >> build a great, big, large fence 150 or 100 mile long. put all the lesbians in there. fly over and drop some food.
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do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. >> i felt he was preaching bigotry. my god is a loving god. my god loves everybody. >> this is not a preacher. this is a bigot. >> reporter: the protesters demonstrated several miles away in the church. >> and to that which is against nature is against very nature -- >> reporter: where they encountered a small but loud opposition. >> you can't be a practicing lesbian and be saved by the grace of god. >> we must repent because we've broken god's laws. >> reporter: pastor worley supporters carried signs that many here felt were nasty and antagonistic. and not accurate. >> where does it talk about aids in romans 1:27. >> it doesn't. >> why do you have that here? >> it's just a phrase we put on there. >> reporter: there's been all kinds of opportunity for confrontation here.
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people on one side of the issue are on the sidewalk, people on the other side are yelling back at them. so far there's been no problems. >> i'm glad i'm a proud member of providence road church in north carolina. my pastor, and his brother. >> reporter: for the most part worley's supporters were ignored. instead the focus was on the anti-gay sermon. >> i think it's anti-christian. which is why i wrote this message, would jesus really do this? no. >> reporter: many protesters brought their children. >> i want my kids to love everyone. i don't want them to see black or white, gay or straight. i want them to show up and love everybody. >> nobody was arrested. >> i'm telling you the reasons heterosexuals go to heaven is because they repent for their sins. >> i need your identification. >> all right, sir. >> reporter: but this pro-worley supporter got a citation for using a bull horn. meanwhile with, a few miles
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away, at the church we asked if worley would talk to us there. >> we're not issuing any comments or statements. >> so we can't talk to the pastor? >> no, sir. >> reporter: there's no talking to worley at least on this day. >> pastor, any comments at all? the pastor is either not ready or not interested to publicly defend his sermon. as far as defending him, his family and supporters seem ready to step up. five men walked out of the house when we asked questions. noticeably one man had a gun in his waistband. >> gary tuchman joins us now live from north carolina. what'd you learn about what went on inside the church service yesterday, gary? >> reporter: i should tell you first, we wanted to go into the church, but we were told that no reporters were allowed on the grounds. people know who i am. but there was a reporter who wasn't as well known who was with the hickory daily record and you were saying in the beginning that the pastor got a
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standing ovation. in addition to that, the pastor told the congress grow gags he appreciates their support and he said, i've been preaching for 53 years and, quote, do you think i'm going to bail out on this now? . >> it's interesting for someone who says he's not bailing out, he still refuses to answer any questions to anybody. >> reporter: yeah. and i don't think he's interested at all in talking to outsiders. particularly the news media. i have been told, though by that director who i talked with that they are consulting with their lawyers right now. ultimately perhaps their lawyers will advise the pastors to talk. but as of now, it's clear. you saw, anderson, i gave him every opportunity to make a statement. he chose not to. >> our invitation is open for him to come on this program any time. thank you. when a new york state teacher sent sexually suggestive e-mails she spent time in jail, but it didn't end her teaching career. wait until you hear what she's accused of now, and why her
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another keeping them honest report. we know it's hard to fire teachers who misbehave. but this next report is hard to believe. a phys ed teacher still has her job even though the school has been trying to fire her for three years. three years. when you hear what she told her students, you'll understand why parents in her district are outraged. she has tenure which gives her certain protection. but keeping them honest, who's protecting the students? tom foreman reports. >> reporter: here in rochester, new york, olivia holley is finishing high school and excited about college. yet she and her mother are still talking about a day in eighth grade when a female teacher under the pretense of a medical exam told every girl in the class to do something they found shocking. >> she told us all to remove our shirts and bras. >> right there in class? >> right there in class.
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told us all to remove it. >> what did you think? >> it was something unnormal about it. just extraordinarily, like, out of the ordinary. >> i called the school. like any parent would. i was enraged. >> reporter: turns out, keeping them honest, people have been outraged around teacher valerie yarn for years. court records indicate she's been repeatedly accused of inappropriately touching female co-workers, of sending sexually suggestive cards, letters and e-mails. telling one she was smooth like ice cream and suggesting she knew a million ways to please a woman. even after being told to stop by the women and supervisors, even ordered to stop by a court, yarn was accused by a colleague of persistently calling to play sexually suggestive music over the phone. court records show she's been cited for skipping work, showing up late, not having a lesson plan and giving failing grades to some students for no reason.
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so why after all that is she still employed by the rochester school system? the school board would not comment because the status is the subject of on ongoing court case. officials have been trying to fire her since 2009. >> this tenured teacher disciplinary process is broken. >> reporter: jay, who represents the state school boards, says the teachers union and its lawyers too often put the protection of teachers, even bad ones, above the needs of taxpayers and students. >> what's happened here in new york is we've taken that right that the supreme court has interpreted to be embedded in the 14th amendment, the due process clause, and raised it by a thousand. >> reporter: while people on all sides of this dispute admit it is unusual, the state association of school boards insists, trying to fire even a single tenured teacher is daunting. on average, the legal wrangling takes close to a year and a half.
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and it can cost $280,000. is that reasonable? >> no. it's not reasonable. and no reasonable person would say it's reasonable. >> reporter: adam urbanski is with the teachers union, and while he admits some cases can get out of hand, he challenges the notion that tenure and all it entails just protects bad teachers. >> that's a cop out. teachers in rochester know and we're proud of the fact that they know that the union is not a place to hide. that you won't get any more empathy from the union president than you would from the superintendent. >> then how can a case like this go on and on and on? >> because here you have the right to due process as a citizen. you have the right to have your day in court. >> reporter: valerie yarn has had her day over and over again for the past five years.
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an arbitrator ordered the school district to suspend her for a year without pay though it is still on the hook for her health insurance. and under this ruling, yarn could possibly return to the classroom after her suspension if she passes a psychiatric evaluation. our attempts to reach yarn directly or through her union lawyer proved unsuccessful. so we don't know what she might have to say about all these accusations. but we know what the holley family thinks five years after that incident with olivia. >> if anybody had told you back then that this thing would still be lingering on -- >> i wouldn't believe them. >> i'd tell them they've got to be out their mind. >> reporter: new york state offers tenure to teachers after three years in the classroom, and the union insists they weed out a lot of bad teachers early on. but admits the process must be streamlined when it comes to troubled tenure teachers. >> we don't want to see them anymore than any parent or grandparent whose children we serve. >> that has to be changed. >> has to be changed.
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>> reporter: on that lorain holley agrees. >> tenure means you're protecting somebody's job but who's protecting the students? >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn, rochester. >> a lot of critics say the case of valerie yarn is the window to a broken system. it makes it very hard and expensive to remove a teacher from the classroom. disability rights attorney and children's advocate reva martin is here. thank you so much for being with us. no one is saying teachers shouldn't have rights. but you're saying the word tenure has evolved from meaning due process for job for life. >> anderson, you know, this case is really troubling. and it's not an isolated case. there are cases it takes up to eight years a teacher took to remove her from the district and cost the district over $300,000. i am all for protecting the teachers' rights. i believe that their right to
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due process or their right to have a fair and neutral proceeding to determine whether there should be a termination is important. because we want teachers to feel secure in their jobs. what we don't want is a protracted process that takes year and years and costs districts hundreds of thousands of dollars when they're egregious situations like this. i can't imagine a teacher asking young girls to take off tops and bras. it's just really an egregious situation. >> and if it's hard to fire teachers that have misconduct, it must be harder to get rid of them if they're underperforming or bad teachers. >> absolutely, anderson. the whole process of removing a teacher with all the administrative obstacles in the way of the school district makes it impossible to remove a teacher. i'm encouraged by something. we're seeing on the national level federal policies, educational policies that are starting to tie performance to teacher promotions, to raises,
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and to the quality of teaching. i think those policies are starting to have an impact. and sending a loud message to schools that teachers that are performing, let's praise and promote them. but those teachers who are engaged in the type of conduct involved in this rochester case and those teachers who are poorly performing, let's get rid of them. >> that's a tough proposition. areva martin, i appreciate you being on. we'll continue to follow it. a bizarre story out of miami over the weekend. a man caught eating another person's face. strange details next. tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier.
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i have a bulletin. the pope spokesman is denying that -- the butler is being charged with aggravated acts of stealing documents and leaking them to the press. a horrifying story from miami where a police officer killed a man who was reportedly chewing another man's face off and growling. surveillance video from the miami herald showed the two men next to each other. the victim was rushed to the hospital with most of his face missing. >> cars in southern ontario were damaged from debris from a plane. the air canada flight had to return to the airport in toronto after one of its engines shut down after takeoff. air canada says it's investigating the debris report.
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it's an annual event. it has a camp for kids who had a parent killed in the line of duty. here are some of their stories. >> my dad died when i was 13 months. it's a sacrifice that really makes me sad when i think of him. we have lots of things of him, like pillows and blankets. we even have a poster of him in our room. he is always -- he's always in my heart. >> he would lead me to the biggest waves he could find and then he'd let me boogie board down that. >> when he played the guitar he was really bad so we all had to run up into our rooms and we had to shut the door. >> we would always go around the zoo and i would always be on his shoulders. >> he liked to like joke around. he was really funny. >> the awesomest guy i ever met. >> back in the army he held his own religious service with a lot
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of other soldiers where he was the pastor. he would preach to all the soldiers and tell them that they're in good hands with god. >> he was a marine. he was really nice. >> sometimes i would think that like what would happen-what would happen if my dad had died, but i have figured that out now because my dad did die. >> we used to play football in the front yard. we have this video of it. now i kind of don't have anyone anymore. >> right now that we're at taps it's happy but sad because the soldiers lost but it's happy because we're free. >> just seeing other people having fun with their dad. and seeing how i can't do that anymore. >> i'm also very mature since his death brought me to be the man of the house. and i had to take care of my little sister and my mom. >> i think i'm definitely like a lot more independent and stronger.
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>> there is a type of strength that you find in yourself when you lose someone close to you, especially a parent. and you learn to be a lot more autonomous at times. there's not as many people to rely on. >> you can still have fun with the people you have and who love you still. >> my best advice would be to not like -- you shouldn't just stay in your sea of grief. >> think of happy thoughts, not things that bring you down. just thinks that keep you up. >> definitely cry. there's nothing wrong with crying. >> it's okay to cry. it's okay. >> it's okay to cry, but never give up on life. just keep on going and don't stop. >> you don't take really -- you learn not to take like anyone for granted. i'm extra grateful for my mom because she's the only one i have. >> i'll say don't cry. he will always be in your heart.
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>> it's kind of sad with your dad being gone. it's like just -- it's like -- but -- well, i still know that he's in my heart forever. >> memorial day is when we go out to dad's grave a lot and we put flowers on it. >> we go and we neil on his grave and we take pictures and then after that we pray. and i think our dad really likes having us around with him. >> they can give flowers and stuff. >> everyone should take a second on memorial day to remember all of those who have served in the war. >> it means to me that dad will always be in my heart. >> that he's in my heart. >> he's always with me even though i do cry, i miss him, but i always know he's with me. >> he was very humble.
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he loved the outdoors. he loved to laugh and live. >> i love him, and i wish he was here. >> i knew forever that my dad would still always be in my heart and i knew he was my hero and he protected the world around me, and that was a big favor for me and the rest of the world. >> that's it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" begins now. they ruined memorial day for a lot of people, and she's not done yet. beryl gaining strength again. the carolinas could be the next target of the storm. plus, he held authorities at bay for 15 hours. the tense standoff in texas is finally over. radioactive tuna caught off the u.s. coast after a 6,000 mile migration from japan, but is it safe to eat?
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