hoekstra and challenge him on this nonsense. but first, we want to talk about syria and the massacre of the 69 murdered children. it may become the tipping point. calls for air strikes to protect civilians are getting louder and louder. all the while, the violence is getting worse and worse. we can tell you now today, at least 13 people have been killed. the massacre on friday, killing 103 last night. joining me now is former state department spokesman p.j. crowley. welcome back. let me begin with this comparison i've been hearing more since this slaughter many homs. is this beginning to resemble a bosnian-type situation where you have ethnic group versus ethnic group fighting for themselves? >> first, the international

community struggled for a couple of years in 1992, '93, '94. it wasn't until the tragedy of srebrenica that there was a c catalizig effect that have brought people to the negotiating table and international forces to implement the peace agreement. is hula that kind of cat liezing moment? it may or may not be. >> the numbers are fuzzy. that's 7,000, 8,000, possibly 10,000 bosnian muslims back in july 199 5. is that what we're waiting for in syria? >> and you're right. unfortunately this is a tragedy that's unfolding a bit more in slow motion. i think what's pivotal here is if you compare syria to libya, there you had a clear call from

the arab league for intervention and you had nations that were willing to take on the burden of that intersengs. none of those conditions yet exist in the context of syria. a pivotal country is going to be russia. russia has been providing syria political cover within the u.n. there's been no u.n. resolution. syria providing economic and military support which allowed bashar al assad to hold on as long as he has. >> it's russia, the russian foreign minister says they're categorically against intervention in syria. i want to pose it to you. we came up with something pretty shocking to us. the russian newspaper, they're questioning the us a thencety of this video from that massacre on friday where the 49 children were killed. some at close range.

it's using the term photographic manipulation. this article goes on to say, the only question remains whether this massacre was committed by syrian rebels or by the british and american special forces reportedly already inside the country. again, comparisons with milosevic and the russians ran cover for him in pose after all those massacres and now it seems like they're doing the same thing. >> it's depressing to hear that report because that makes us believe he's still in denial and unfortunately this tragedy is going to unfold for sometime further. on the other hand, if you think about kosovo in 1999, milosevic wasn't defeated militarily. he was defeated politically and it was the russians that played a key role. the former prime minister together with the finnish foreign minister sat down with milosevic and said you've got to go. so it's going to be that kind of

a conversation wf russia that somehow is motivated enough, maybe even embarrassed enough to say to assad you've got to go. then they make a deal with the international community that the regime will not go but assad himself will. >> it's only fair to turn the tables and ask about the united states. the united states is calling again for air strikes in syria to protect these innocent civilians. why is the president not joining them? >> well, again, to conduct military operations you've got to have allies and support in the region surrounding. syria is vournded by friends of the united states, turkey, israel, jordan, iraq. at some point in time, again going back to libya, we had bases in the mediterranean from which we could conduct air campaign close air support that establish a no-fly zone. in order to be able to do that in this context, you need to

have access to bases. one of these countries is going to have to pony up the bases. again, that takes the kind of coordination and building of a consensus to get where we need to go where decisive action becomes more possible. >> you hear these leaders saying there is no plan b when we talk about syria. thank you. let me get to this here.

>> do we have a verdict? >> it doesn't seem like we have a verdict. there's been a swirl behind the scenes, if you will. there was a earlier note that came right before lunch hour break before the jurors and then another note, probably about half an hour, 45 minutes ago

from the jurors to the judge. the judge back in chambers. we believe the first note had to do with a juror, something related to a juror. we do not know what. and we've gotten absolutely no information this time. people watching this trial very closely for the notes. and let me say another thing about the notes. we've gotten a number of those coming through here. they've all pretty much asked for evidence up until no uh. the judge actually sent in all the evidence from the trial. so probably no more questions about evidence. now it's something else. it could be any number of thing, but as far as we know, no verdict yet, brooke. they continue to deliberate. birthers can't just let it go. it's been more than a year since the president released his

long-form birth certificate. it's online for everyone to see. but it's still not good enough for some people. a senate candidate and former congressman pete hoekstra has said this to them. take a listen. >> any future election someone would have to walk into that office and prove that they meet the minimum qualification to be president of the united states. >> that candidate is pete hoekstra. he joins me now on the phone. mr. hoekstra, welcome to you. let me just begin with after four years of media and conservatives digging for evidence that president obama wasn't born here and coming up with nothing, we need a federal office to do that? >> wl, actually, i think that it is a proposed, whether it's the

responsibility of some other organization, when you're a candidate of office, i fill out hundreds of pages of documents to verify each and every contribution that comes to my campaign. i have to fell out pages and pages that list every asset that i own and you would think that the united states of america could go through a very simple process that said hey, i want to run for president and there would be a person that would say okay, here are the minimum qualifications. there's an age requirement, there's a birth requirement. show that you meet these requirements and we'll move on. very, very simple. solve the problem, with eeel never have this kind of debate or question again and we can talk about the real issues, which are the economy and the jobs -- >> before you talk about the economy -- >> this does not have to be that hard. >> whether it's an office, whether it's folks at another organization, you want positions to make sure that these candidates are born in the usa.

>> what i want is to make sure that candidates who run for the office of the president immediate the minimum requirements. this has nothing to do so about barack obama or the past. this is all looking forward saying we have requirements in place, we have requirements in some states where people when they go to vote they' got to show a driver's license. you would think that we could at least make sure that when someone decides to run for office that we know that they meet the minimum requirements and we'll never have this kind of debate again. let's talk about the real issues. >> how can you say, though, that this is not about president obama? >> because that's not my focus. my focus is i want to make sure this never happens again. let's talk about the real issues in this campaign. for someone else it may be about president obama so be it for them.

it's an argument the that shouldn't be taking place. it could be placed very quickly and easily. hang on a second. these are more of your comments from that tea party meeting. roll it. >> i think this president, i hate to say it, but i think the d debate is over. we lost that debate in 2008 when our presidential nominee said i'm not talking about it. so what opportunity did jn mccain miss in 2008 and do you believe that president obama's birth certificate is real? >> a in 2008, our presidential nominee, the head of our political party john mccain decided that this was an issue that he was not going to pursue

and moved on and talked about the things that he believed were most important about the campaign. i don't know if there was an opportunity that was missed or not. it doesn't matter at this point. barack obama is the president of the united states, no hundred has taken a look at this stuff and discredited it. i'm not talking about barack obama. i'm talk saying, you know, that this is -- in the united states of america, thisst a debate we should not be having. >> you're a republican, why add another layer of bureaucracy to our government. how oldn't you be opposed to that? >> i think what we're seeing here is -- i'm all about solutions. we have seen this debate go on and like i said, i feel out reams and reams of paperwork. you would think that americans after having gone through this process have -- would say, you know what, doing a simple

certification is not a difficult thing to do. it is not a big bureaucracy. >> but if you talk about solutions -- if you talk about solutions, does that infer there was a problem? what was the problem to then have this sort of office? >> well, what happened is you ear still having this ongoing debate with some people moving this forward. i'm not participating in that debate, i think this issue has been settled and, you know, i just want to make sure in future elections -- and this is not a top priority for me, okay? this is kind of like, you know, this can take care of itself. this can move forward and this can be done very easily. we do it, you know, you certify. we have a background check if you want to buy a gun. if you want to vote, you have to show an i.d. if you want to run for president, you ought to at least be able to demonstrate you meet the minimum criteria for being

president of the united states. this is not that hard. it's a whole lot easier than a lot of the other paperwork that i have to fill out to run for -- >> i understand, i understand. let me just turn the conversation to this. because you made national news when you ran this ad in michigan against your senate opponent during the super bowl. here it is. >> thank you, michigan senator. you spent so much american money, you buy more and more from us. your economy get very weak. ours get very good. we take your jobs. >> critics called you a racist for that ad. do you realize that critics might use this office, this proposal for this office as further proof?

>> i don't know why they would take it in that direction. excuse me, you're taking this into an area where i see absolutely no connection at all. when someone where you knows for office, asking them to certify that they meet the requirements for president, what is -- i'm not even going to use the term. it's an outrageous term and an outrageous question that you would ask a thing -- >> it's a term mere critics threw out. you've always been criticized for this exact office and i'm simply asking the question. >> requirements for being the president of the united states of america? >> i'm simply asking the question. thanks. . co-ing up, police are now searching for a gunman. in here, great food demands a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards,

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>> let me explain what's unfolding in seattle. a gunman is on the run. police are looking for this individual. there's been a shooting at a cafe. two separate shootings. one at a cafe, one nearby. in total here, according to police, three people were killed

and there are several injuries as well. you can see aerial pictures thanks to our affiliate in seattle as they're looking for this gunman. >> three dead, several wounded. we don't know if these two shootings are linked or not. multiple emergency response vehicles on the scene treating these victims and trying to track these gunmen down. as soon as we get more information, we'll pass it along to you on cnp. >> we have been discussing a bizarre face-eating attack on a homeless man in miami. and many are wondering what in the world would possess a naked 31-year-old rudy eugene to attack a homeless man, strip him of his clothes and then chew off his face, tear out his eyes, apparently growling like an animal as he's doing this. police pull up, pull a gun at him, tell him to stop and he goes right back and continues to

chew before police shoot and kill him. are bath salts to blame here? some believe this is yet another case of this. last hour, we learned this isn't the first time miami police are dealing with this kind of thing. let me bring in elizabeth cohen here. so many things to say about this one. but i'll just begin with bath salts? >> i know. you hear bath salts and you think what? people are snorting bath salts. nothing to do with what you would put in your bath. these are manmade chemicals that people can almost make in their garages. these are unfortunately not hard to make. and they're -- sometimes a series of different chemicals. and these are stimulants and they have sort of an amphetamine-like effect. and what they often do is -- these makers will often change up the hem chem call makeup so it's hard for drug enforcement to track them down.

they used to be sold legally. they were sold legally at gas stations. >> so now as we're hearing about this, this is something else people are trying to do to get some sort of high. how many cases? because swhen i was talking to our correspondent in miami, they said these police officers notice an uptick of people feeling this way, becoming violent because of bath salts. >> you look at poison control centers. there was a big increase and now it seems like there's a bit of a decrease. now states have made them illegal. so they're sort of catching up to these guys. but look at the numbers, in 20150, poison control centers across the country had 304 reports and no deaths. in 2011, that went way up to about 6200 cases and 42 deaths. and then this year, there have been only two deaths and about 1,000 cases. we hope those numbers continue and we hope law enforcement has finally caught up with these folks. what there does is it can make you psychotic.

>> chewing someone's face? >> yes, you're not just high, you're actually psychotic. and that's very different. for example, you know, a drug might make you high, but it doesn't make you sdsh psychotic is different. psychotic is imagine things. >> acid. >> similar to acid, exactly. similar to acid. so this is something very different than just getting a high. >> wow, thank you very much. more here. word that a 747 cargo plane has hit another plane. we've been asking some more questions. got some more from you here. [ mechanical humming ]

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jet, right? bumping one another at chicago o'hare. >> exactly, brooke. what happened here is that an american regional jet with 18 people on it was come into the great. that's a 747, an e.v.a. cargo plane leaving chicago headed to anchorage. it looks like it clipped the tail of that smaller plane. the it's a commuter jet you would see for a short hop. it was coming from springfield, missouri, to chicago. we don't know what happened. whether this was a miscalculation or misdirection about who was put putting those two planes in such close proximity. but certainly a 747 even moving at a very slow speed, that's not going to be something you want when you are in a 140. you asked me earlier if passengers onboard would have felt that. they certainly would have. all those passengers are now safely off the plane. there were no injuries to anyone

on that plane. but obviously you see all of these emergency vehicles responding. they're trying to figure out what exactly went wrob here. >> it really puts into perspective the massive jet along with the smaller regional planes you would? feel the thud if you're on the smaller plane. all the passengers are a-okay? >> they're all okay. all off the plane. >> lizzie o'leary, thank you. bluegrass legend doc watson has died. he was known for his talent on the guitar. [ tires squeal, engine revs ] ♪ ♪ ♪

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>> okay, got to listen now to a little more doc watson. we have lost a gem.

♪ >> doc watson passed away overnight in his native north carolina, died soon after having colon surgery. he was 89 years of age. joining me now from nashville, needs no introduction, ricky scaggs. it is a pleasure to have you on. unfortunately you should the circumstances here, welcome. i know certainly you knew doc watson. tell me, you know, what was his gift to american music and musicians such as yourself? >> the thing that doc watson did i think his legacy. he took an acoustic guitar that

was for many, many years a rhythm instrument in old-time music, country music. was basically a rhythm instrument and he made a lead instrument out of it to play solos. and so his, what's called cross picking or flat picking, his style of playing is what inspired people like tony rice who then inspired other, hundreds of other great acoustic guitar players that it all comes back to dp oc and what he did with his style of guitar playing. >> we're looking at pictures of his right hand with that pic on his thumber, if my guitar teacher calls them my finger brains in my right hand. it's really those fingers flying along instead of just strumming along to further explain your

point. his first musical instrument was a banjo his dad made with the hide of a dead cat. that's something i didn't know until today. he lived it, didn't he? this music? >> he did. >> he did. can you extrapolate. >> i thought you said listen to this. i'm sorry, i thought we were going to hear more doc. a lot of people don't know what a great banjo player he was. doc played the old style mountain claw hammer style banjo, drop thumb style. and he had a -- he had a sound and had a lick that i have never heard before. i've trade to learn it so many times. i said doc, play that lick for me so i can watch what you're doing. and he would do it and i just never was able to get it. in the last 12 years, he had not played the banjo on stage.

he said i don't play the banjo anymore. i said dock, you play better than anybody, you know? >> and he did this blind. did he ever talk to you about his blindness. >> do you know, brooke, he wired his own house. >> what? >> he wired his own house in north carolina. when he built his own house that he lived in all these own years, he wired his house. and the inspector came out and said it was perfect. and he was totally blind. unbelievable. >> that explains his finger picking. i'm impressed. >> when i heard his passing, i saw a rainbow in the air. i think the lord was really ready to see doc. >> thank you. a texas law firm goes broke. a client has ties to charles manson and we may be getting new clues about this convicted serial killer. we're on the case. for your a. so we invented a warning.. you can feel.

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available tapes of watson and lloyd back in 1979. a judge just ruled the tapes should go now to los angeles police. sunny hostin is on the case with us as always. question number one would be the recordings between his client and lawyer. is that not considered privil e privileged information? why is that okay now to go to police. >> that's the very question i have. of course, conversations an attorney has with his client is considered privilege. but a client can waive that privilege. in researching that story, guess what i found? i found the actual saned waiver that he signed. charles den son watson signed this in september of 1976 and waived his right to these conversations. and apparently, brooke, he waived his rights to these conversations and these tapes were his way of paying his legal fees of over $40,000 at the time which is pretty significant at that time.

and the tapes were used by his co-author of his book, which was also published. the book was called "will you die for me? the man who killed charles man son tells his own story." while we don't know a lot about the tapes, no one else has heard them. the lapd will have the tapes my understanding is in 14 days. >> if these tapes are something like 43 years old, what can that do to, i don't know, help the case? >> well, the detectives believe he may have discussed some unsolved murders. that's been the rumors for quite some time. that charles manson's follows did participate in other murders. 43 years ago is a long time, but look at etan patz, the cold case that was just recently solved. so sometimes when you get additional information, even 40, 50 years later, that can help solve crimes. so this is a significant, significant break in this story, brooke. ? >> sunny hostin on the case.

thank you so much. next, what is the proper protocol for welcoming a queen? queen elizabeth's 60 years on the throne has seen the good, the bad and the, i can't believe it, but handled it all with such grace and style. we have the pictures and we have richard quest joining me live from london.

a story of heroism surfacing out of afghanistan today.

on this picture, you're going to see a marine. he has a live rocket propelled grenade embedded in his leg. this is a tirking time bomb in his body. this picture was taken last january but we're just now learning about this incredible story today. last hour i spoke with the man on the right side of your screen. he's a naval nurse, grave enough to risk his own life to attend to this wounded marine. his name is lieutenant commander james ganari. he described what was going through his mind as he approached this ticking time bomb. >> when i first came out there to him, he asked me why everybody was away from him. and i said because you have an rpg in your leg. i held his hand and obviously he realized he was in a lot of danger and i said i promise you, i will not leave you until that thing is out of your leg. and then we started to talk a little bit and i gave him some

pain medication waiting for the explosive ordnance disposal guy to come out. >> so just going back to something you said, so this gentleman had no idea he even had a live grenade in his leg? you broke the news to him? >> well, i think he realized it. he was in and out of -- >> consciousness? >> awarness. i won't say consciousness, but in and out of awareness just because of the shock. but when i told him that, he lifted his head and looked at his leg and muttered a few things no the for tv. then he and i started talking about other things and i gave him some pain medication. >> before you get him to this position where we see you and someone else working on him across this gurney, i know that you all were on this medevac helicopter. i imagine it wasn't the smoothest ride in the worlding keeping in mind, this is a live grenade. how long did that flight itself take? and how long did it really feel like? >> well, actually to clarify

that, i was not part of the crew to pick him up. >> you were on the grounds afterwards? >> right. he came to our shock trauma pla to be tennessee. that's where i met him. but after we took the grenade out, i flew with him back to a theatre hospital. >> gt it. i know the flight itself was 11 minutes and i seem sure it felt for folks on that flight much longer than that. explain to me what you had to do to get this live grenade out of this lance corporal's leg? >> well, there's a pretty common procedure. first, i' an e.r. icu nurse. and a common procedure is called conscious sedation. you give just enough narcotic and another medication to allow them to maintain their own airway and breathe, but you make them semiconscious. so i was performing conscious sedation to knock him out but so

he could still breathe on his own and the explosive ordinance technician had to then physically pull this thing out of his leg. >> now was this easy to pull out? or is this something that you had to, forgive me, are you yanking this out of his leg? i don't know the medical term for that. >> it took the eod tech three pulls. and he pulled it about halfway. and then we had to readjust and, you know, pulled it out two more tugs. >> so as you're watching him tug two times, three time -- sir, i don't know if you have children. are you thinking of your life flashing before your eyes? what goes through your mind in those split seconds? >> well, the truth of it is is that i said a prayer and i thanked god for everything that i had and i left it alone. i left whether or not the grenade was going to blow up, i left it to him and i just worried about keeping lance corporal's airway open.

>> how about that? and just a quick little note for you, marine lance corporal perez is back state side. he was able to keep his legs and is now undergoing physical therapy. we are minutes away from "the situation room" with wolf blitzer coming up at the top of the hour as always. this is the first time i've seen you since i is the first time in you since the testy exchange with donald trump. have you talked to him since? >> no. >> i've been speaking with him for 20 years plus. he's been on my show 20 years plus, he is obviously a very talented guy, and intelligent guy on this particular i think he's wrong whether or not the state of hawaii has authenticated the birth certificate or the live birth certificate that they did a year ago for april 2011 and even earlier with then republican governor of hawaii authenticated it. now the governor has officials responsible for the birth certificates says it's the real

deal and not a forgery or a fake or anything like that. i'm convinced as is mitt romney, and karl rove and other presidential candidates that the president of the united states was, in fact, born in honolulu. he's not yet convinced, donald trump. i suspect at some point down the road he will be. >> okay. wolf, who are you talking to today? >> i'm talking to ambassador susan rice, the united states ambassador to the united nations about syria. she's got a lot on her plate, obviously. a lot going on. this situation is going from bad to worse. as you know, the slaughter continues and here's the key question and we'll go in depth on this. is the united states preparing a military option to end the slaughter once and for all? is that happening? is it not happening? will the u.s. do there what the u.s. and nato allies did in libya? is the u.s. getting ready to do what it did in kosovo and bosnia like the 1990s or not do much

militarily? i remember going to rwanda in 1998 with then president bill clinton. he says the biggest regret of his presidency was he saw the reports coming in about hundreds of thousands of people being slaughtered in rwanda and burundis and he didn't do anything. susan rice, by the way, lived through that and she was working for president clinton as an assistant secretary of state. she was also on the national security council. so these are emotional issues, sensitive issues, but they're also practical issues in syria, as well. we'll go through some of those options. that's coming up in the 5:00 p.m. eastern hour. >> wolf, we'll see you in a matter of minutes in "the situation room." thank you so much for that. later on i'm hopping a flight to london because we are very excited as we are looking forward to the queen's diamond jubilee's 60 years on the throne. we'll talk about some moments, shall we call them awkward as she came over to visit various

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having reigned for 60 years, britain's queen elizabeth has pretty much seen it all, including presidents truman, early '50s all of the way through to president obama. think about that for a moment, that's 12 presidents. when it comes to us yanks we

seem to throw her highness to a loop. she gets this big hug and a hey, how are you doing from the late alice frazier. frazier was later heard to say that the queen needs a little loving. even michelle obama didn't exactly get the memo that says you do not touch the queen. in britain, this was commented upon, certainly. richard quest is live for us in london and what does queen elizabeth make of us yanks? and our warm fuzziness? >> here's trivia for you, brooke. she has met every u.s. president during her reign except one. right at the end of this discussion for you, we'll reveal which one it is. >> i won't say. >> oh! you are no fun to play with.

sorry, richard. keep going. keep going with your trivia. >> lyndon johnson was the president. as for the hugs. a lot was made here, particularly one in the early days where the large lady gave her the hug, and the queen seemed startled, but she doesn't mind. when michelle obama put her arm around her, the queen wasn't at all fazed. she's just not used to it. i covered that story. i covered the hug. the palace said, you know, this was just something that the queen just wasn't used to, but she certainly wasn't offended or worried it takes a lot. this is a woman who went through the abdication and she went through the diana crisis and she saw several of her children divorced and her sister. she ain't worried about a bit of a hug. >> what did she call it? the horribleness. >> the horribleness.

>> that's what she called it. >> the '90s. that was the year of the divorce and the horribles, and she -- >> and let me get to another oh, my moment, richard quest. let me take you back to 1991. this is bush i, invites her to make, but oops! someone sets the podium wrong, so all you see the stripes on her hats and the folks at the palace not too pleased by this and not to be outdone, with the royal slip of the tongue. he was smirking at her highness. >> with ten u.s. presidents and helped our nation celebrate our bicentennial in 1976.

>> smirk. >> not so much. there were suggestions of possible tension between the bush' specifically and the windsors. maybe those miscues weren't mistak mistakes. how were those perceived. >> the first one was the talking hat incident because someone forgot to pull out something for her to stand on and the palace was furious because they don't like anything that makes the queen look stupid. so the talking incident hat was meant to be quite serious. the second one, you missed the line where george bush said she gave me a look only a mother could and then winked at her. again, the palace don't really mind about that. the queen is far too old, senior, experienced and seasoned to worry about that sort of thing, and by the way, just one thing for yourself, brooke. not her highness, please. >> her majesty. >> thank you!

>> we won't let you carry on like that. >> her majesty, the queen elizabeth. >> richard quest, see you in london. >> have a safe flight. >> thank you. >> bringing you live coverage starting sunday at 11:00 eastern. thanks so much. i'm brooke baldwin. wolf blitzer and "the situation room" begins right now. >> safe travels. we'll be watching, brooke, thank you. mitt romney is moving on and close to the presidential nomination. they keep blocking the spotlight with yet more controversial comments today. we'll update you. a leading cause of death in latin america. does the scary parasitic disease pose a growing threat here in the united states? and a runway emergency in chicago where a giant cargo jet collides with an airliner. we'll bring you the very latest. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."