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>> the magnitude of the horror unfolded as police rushed to the scene. >> we got another person outside shot in the leg, female. i got people running out of the theater. >> get us gas masks for theater nine. we can't get in it. we need rescue inside the auditorium. >> we got seven down. seven down. i've got a child victim. i need rescue at the back door of theater nine. >> child victim. did you hear that? minutes, hours after the shooting witnesses begin to come forward giving us the first glimpses of the absolute terror and bloodshed inside that theater. >> just pointed the gun at me. i was terrified. i dove into the aisle. i had bullets on my forehead. >> there was one guy on all fours crawling. there was a girl spitting up blood. there were bullet holes in some
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people's backs and arms. >> for like ten minutes or 15 minutes it was one or two minutes but it was horrific. >> here he is, the suspected gunman. his name james holmes. he's 24 years of age. how did police arrest him? listen to this, he never made it out of the theater apartment. police say her surrendered without a fight. we are learning more about him. such as the fact he was a phd in neuroscience at the university of colorado. he was in the process of withdrawing. police and federal agents are trying to enter the third floor apartment of holmes'. >> we're not sure what we're dealing with in the home. they appear to be incendiary devices. there's some chemical elements. they are linked together with
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all kind of wires. we have a lot of very smart bomb teches up there trying to figure out what we're going to do. >> ed, let's talk about what you know with that apartment. he said it's an active and difficult situation and it could take hours, if not days, for that community to be secure. >> they are trying to figure out what they are dealing with inside james holmes apartment. they don't know what they are dealing with at this point and they have to take every precaution. what is interesting is that parentally it was james holmes himself who alerted authorities and told authorities of what was inside or what could be inside. that's why they are proceeding with caution. officials say they have seen enough evidence from outside the apartment that gives them reason to be concerned and reason they need to approach this cautiously.
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they have evacuated several buildings from around that apartment. that continues to be a dangerous situation. james holmes is sitting in the municipal jail here. >> we also learned, the police chief saying hundreds of calls came in within 60 seconds after this happened. police arrived on the scene. then they arrested him pretty quickly, pretty calmly. tell me about that. >> the police station is about a half mile away from where the theater is. according to the police chief the first officers arrived on the scene within a minute or a minute and a half and shortly after that james holmes was taken into custody. this is the front of theater you see behind me. his car, he was found standing next to his car behind the theater. the timeline is he walked in from the witness statements, he walked in through an exit door that was to the right side of a
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movie screen. he thrown in a couple of canisters which had some sort of, i know if it was tear gas or what it might be but it was some sort of irritant. that distracted people and the gunfire erupted. these witness statements have been kind of sporadic as far as how long the shooting lasted, how many rounds people heard. authorities say they have no way of calculating how many rounds were fired in this attack. what one witness did tell me is everything stopped and that james holmes was just standing there calmly as if nothing really happened and he was taken into custody. the one thing we asked the police chief about him and we don't have a clear answer is we presume that exit door could not have been opened from the outside. now somehow that door was opened. the police chief was unable to explain or unwilling to explain ha they have learned as to how james holmes entered. was the door propped open? had he come in earlier in the
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die and opened it up? that's the question that remains unanswered. how that door that would be locked from the outside just be able to exit through, how he was able to get in through that door. that remains the big question. >> right. the how. an eyewitness saw somebody pick up his cell phone, got a call, went to the exit door and appeared to have propped it and the gunman came through. was it the same person? we don't know. let me take you back to the weapons. >> real quick. on that note police chief is saying that at this point they are confident because that story has been out there circulating among many of the witnesses that someone helped him open the door. the police chief saying a short while ago that as far as they can tell they believe he acted alone and didn't have any help. they are still saying they will investigate further but at this point they strongly believe that's the case. >> quickly, do we know if these
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weapons he had, did he have them legally? >> as far as the weapons are concerned, i've been told that officials aren't beginning to process how he obtained these weapons and where they came from and how they were purchase and if there's any irregularities with all of that. that is one of the main things or one of the quickest things that investigators are do here in the next few hours. you can presume that process is ongoing as we speak. >> tough, tough story to cover. we appreciate you in aurora. after every incident like this gun control comes up in conversation. in this case it took only a matter of hours. listen to what new york city mayor said just this morning. >> soothing words are nice but maybe it's time the two people who want to be president of the united states stand up and tell us what they're going to do about it because this is a
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problem across the country. >> he's the co-chair of mayors against illegal guns which has more than 600 members and that includes the mayor of philadelphia who joins me now. there's so many people that will think it's too soon to start talking gun control. you don't agree. >> first, let me send out on behalf of the city of philadelphia and the u.s. conference of mayors, our deepest sympathies to the families that were killed and all that were injured. the impact on aurora and aurora mayor, steve hogan and denver mayor, i cannot imagine what they are going through now. we will keep our prayers and thoughts on those families who lost loved ones and those who are injured.
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unfortunately, and maybe not on the news every day, but the issue of gun violence is ever present with us every day in virtually every city across the united states of america. it is, this is a great tragedy and we need to keep the focus on those who are killed or injured. you can't really escape the fact that more reasonable gun regulations and procedures need to be in place. a strengthening and tighten of the national background check system. i know why any civilian would ever be able to purchase an assault weapon with the parts that go with it. we're told again, listening to your report, body armor. numerous weaponary. that's a lot of fire power in a short period of time. it needs to be addressed. >> i think a lot of people agree with you. we heard from president obama and mitt romney early this
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morning releasing statements. we saw them giving public addresses. their hearts and prayers going out to the people. the thing is mr. mayor, neither men mentioned gun control in their statements. what has to happen for washington to reenstate the assault weapons ban that expired back in 2004? >> it's evident that on gun issue and a number of other issues, washington and certainly in the congress, specifically, has been quite dysfunctional. i'm not going to give the president or mr. romney specific advice about what they should be saying but statements at an proemt time, maybe when the funerals have taken place, both i would encourage to speak out on this issue. as your graphic maybe of the previous show demonstrated there's been a number of multiple people killed in
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assaults like this just in 2012. washington, all elected officials at the local, state and federal level need to get much more serious about guns. this is not a trip down the second amendment trap door. this is about reasonable regulations to protect people. children were killed early this morning. adults were killed. this violence takes place on our streets in america every day. we just need to come to grips with it and make the tough call to save people's lives. i thought that's what public service was all about. >> it's interesting the word you use to describe congress as dysfunction mall. this is the pugl research center. they found 72% of republican voters think it's more important to think gun ownership and to control guns. only 25% of the democrats agree. why hasn't your party, the democratic party done more to
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legislate guns? >> well, i think whether at the state level and the federal level this is purely a recognition of at times the fear that many feel from primarily the nra. any right thinking regular citizen wants to be safe. again, i'm a big supporter of the second amendment. i think i have a first amendment right not to be shot. one has no relationship to the other. the nra has a disproportionate level of influence in some states. we're in the business of saving people's lives. >> people would disagree with you. i covered the school shooting. you have woman to congresswoman gabby giffords. this has to stop. >> it must stop.
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the american people, their voices need to be heard. many members of congress are not representing the interest of their constituents. they are representing the interest of special interests. until we can break that strangle hold that primarily the nra has on our elected officials. regardless of party and regardless of whether you're in the house or the senate, the people of america need to speak of. we took extraordinary measures to make ourselves safe as a result of 9/11. you almost have to take everything off to get on an airplane. we know what it takes to sacrifice in order to be safe. as a country seem not to be able to deal with the issue of guns and gun violence and whether it's who gets them, how they get them, are they legal, are they not legal? these are serious issues. the american people their voices
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must be heard. i don't know what it will take ultimately. we know that 12 people were killed and 59 were injured in a variety of levels by someone who maybe should not have had the weapons in the first place. maybe if we would strengthen the national background check system and we have to get more information on all of this. the american public needs to speak up. mayors across the country have been dealing with this issue. >> philadelphia mayor, appreciate it. >> thank you. 71 people hit by gunfire last night. 12 of them killed. there's 59 survivors now.
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the terror in aurora, colorado hit everyone but the range of injuries is various. again, gunfire hit a total of 71 people. i want to get new information here on some of the survivors at one of the hospitals. i talked to dr. frank with the aurora south hospital. i know these are just, this is one of those days you pray you never have to deal with and you're faced with this now. if i may begin with sheer numbers, how many patients are you treating and give me an update on their conditions. >> we have seen a total of 18 patients so far. 12 of which suffered from a gunshot wound. seven of those patients have
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been admitted to the hospital and six have gone to surgery. i think one of which is still in surgery as we have this conversation. >> if we're talking 18 patients, would you say how many are in the clear? >> we've had three recent patients present to our facility. i do not have an update on their status. we had an eight of patients that were able to be discharged home and are very stable at this time. >> okay. i don't know when you came on this morning or this afternoon. i don't know if you can tell me what it was like in the wee hours of the morning when you started receiving these patients, but i'm sure you've talked to someone who has if you weren't there. the you walk me through the scene at the hospital. >> i was there. i was called in at 1:00 in the morning along with another emergency physician and four trauma surgeons who arrived
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within 20 minutes of the calls going out. we all presented to the department. they were being managed well by the two emergency physicians on staff at the time. then another influx of patients arrived by ambulance. we were able to stabilize them and get the most critical patients to the operating rooms in a very quick fashion. >> you bring up something i want to bring kudos to the aurora police department. there were so many victims of these gunshot wounds that so many police officers took the victims in their own cars to these nearby hospitals to get treated. when you listen to the police chief talk about the different weapons that this young suspected gunman had, the two glock handguns, tear gas. i can't imagine the injuries that you're dealing with. can you talk to me about what you've been seeing specifically? >> sure. you mention the tear gas. we had several victims of tear
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gas that were stable. they were seen, decontaminated and discharged. the others had horrific gunshot wounds to various parts of their body. those most significant patients are gone to surgery and are in state of recovery or the intensive care unit. the department did very well and very efficient and despite the chaos that it functioned in a very calm demeaner. i think everybody knew they had a job to do and did it very well. >> it's incredible in these moments how people just do their jobs and do them quickly and to the best of their ability. i think you for calling in and i'm sure you have quite a team here as you are now in your 12th or 13th hour of work. coming up next, for one of last night's victims it was her second mass shooting in less than two months. the heartbreaking story, next. [ ryan ] maybe just a short run today.
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back to our breaking news. being part of a mass shooting is something no one in their lifetime should have too experience, but for one of those killed it was her second mass shooting in less than two months. her name jessica ghawi. she was an aspiring sports journalist. just in june she visited the mall in toronto and barely missed the attack there. after the canada shooting she blogged my receipt shows my purchase. it was made at 6:20 p.m. after that purchase i felt funny. it wasn't the funny you feel after spending money you show you shouldn't have spent. it was a panic feeling that left my chest feel like something was i missing. a feeling that was overwhelming
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enough to head outside in the rain to get fresh air instead of continuing back into the food court to go shopping. the gunshots rung out at 6:23. had i not gone outside i would have been in the midst of gunfire. her most recent communication will break your heart. it's tough for me to get through this. this is her last tweet. this is from her and this friend. the movie doesn't start for 20 minutes. joining me by phone, peter burns. i read some of her blogs after toronto and how she talks about how life is a blessing just gives you chills. i want to talk about her brother who i know you've been in contact. his top posting talks about call he got at 2:15 central time. he writes i received an almost hysterical phone call from my mother stating that my sister had been shot while attending
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the midnight showing of the dark knight rises in colorado. my question to you, peter, i understand you have been in touch with their mother. can you share whatever you can about that conversation? >> obviously, jessica, i kind of felt responsible for one of the ones bringing her own here. we worked together in san antonio. she's just such a vibrant, go getting intern. she wanted to be a part of everything. i moved out here two years ago to denver and really enjoyed it. she asked me how was it going and how can i help. she says i think i want to move out to denver. i want to be around sports. it seems like you're loving it here and why not. kind of a brave soul she was. she kind of dropped everything and enrolled in school here and didn't know anybody but myself here. she said i want to do this. part of the thing talking about her heart is she had a heart
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ailment that she's always battled. when she had serious issues she said i'm going to do everything. she even went skydiving after that. i have no idea what's going to happen. let me live my life and do it the hardest. that's why she moved here. even after the toronto shooting, i know she shaken up. >> did she talk to you about that? >> she did. she was definitely shooken up by it. it was like it reaffirmed i'm so glad i'm not just sitting here not necessarily wasting my life but i'm glad i'm doing every challenge i want and working hard at it. this goes to show you i want to do everything. i want to be the hardest working intern to be involved in journalism. she was so outgoing that way. that's why it's such a complete tragedy about somebody so young
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and vibrant can be taken away like that. >> how old was she in. >> 24. >> i hate that we're talking about colorado. was she not taking her time to, what was she doing getting hockey equipment to victims of the fire? >> this was unbelievable. a week ago we had dinner right before i left the country. she said i want to talk to you. i don't know how to set up a charity. i want to do a charity for everybody that lost their sporting goods and hockey gear in the wildfires. she said i don't know how to do this. i know all these people. i've done all the leg work of who will help but how do i set it up. we're talking about how to set that up. the one thing i can remember is she looked me square in the eye and said i want to make sure my name is not part of this. she did that.
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she says i don't want people to think i'm doing this to get a little pr or press release that g goes out. we just want to do this. that just speaks volumes about the type of person she was and the reason why her family has asked myself and her brother to speak on her behalf and these victims. there were so many great things that these people accomplished. we rather celebrate that life than to give this suspect one ounce of air time anywhere. >> just reading her twitter page. she sounds like a sweet spunky young gal. we appreciate you coming on. we will celebrate her. condolences to her family. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> she was one of three texas victims in this shooting. her boyfriend was also with her at the movie. he was injured. our san antonio affiliate just
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spoke with this young man's father. i want you to listen as he talks about his son's condition. >> he's in surgery. i just talked to the nurse. he's awake. thapg god he's awake. >> the elder is still in shock in hearing the news his son was shot and his son's girlfriend is dead. i want to let you know anderson cooper will be speaking with jessica's brother tonight. be right back. [ male announcer ] this is the land of giants. ♪ home of the brave. ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ and certain men...
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apartment complex of the suspected shooter not over yet. the shooting spree happened after midnight. you see these pictures of the bomb squad. police still there at the suspect's apartment which still become another killing zone. >> our investigation determined that his apartment is boobie trapped with various incendiary and chemical devices and trip wires. we have an active and difficult scene there. it may be resolved in hours or days. we don't know how we're going to handle that. >> mike brooks, you've been through this. i couldn't get my eyes off these pictures today because you see the guys. they appear to be all guys sort of poking through the windows on the third floor of the suspect's apartment.
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>> use an alternate entrance. that would be the window. if you set something up to be tripped by law enforcement coming through the front door, where would you expect them to come in? the front door. you wouldn't expect them to go through the window. we don't know if he gave them that information. >> apparently he said -- >> he said something about explosives. we saw the aurora fire department fire ladder. they knocked the window out and pulled the frame out. i saw the guy looking in either taking pictures or using some
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other kind of technology to find out what do we have here. a will the of times you take picture and go back with the other teches and say how are we going to attack the different devices. >> what if you're the boss, how do you proceed? who do you penetrate the apartment? >> first thing i'm going to get search warrant to make sure the search is legal. there's no hurry. take your time. chief oates said they were sophisticated traps. you don't want to injure yourself. also as this thing was unfolding i saw the action to the fire department. they had trucks pulled up to the hydrant with a supply line and you had firefighters in full protective equipment and self-contained breathing apparatus and they pulled lines. they were going in through the door just in case something happened they could knock the fire down. >> speaking of patience, the chief saying this could be hours other days.
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got some news here. some breaking news with regard to this horrendous shooting in aurora, colorado. 24-year-old james holmes carried multiple weapons. we just learned he owned the
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just hours after the colorado shooting, gun control advocates got political. i want you to listen to new york city mayor. >> soothing words are nice but maybe it's time that the two people who want to be president of the united states stand up and tell us what they're going to do about it because this is a problem across the country. >> i want to bring in our senior congressional correspondent. hang on. i want to read before we talk. this is statement from the brady campaign. they say quote, this tragedy is another grim reminder that guns are the enablers of mass killers and our nation pays an unacceptable price for our failure to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. we are outraged. i know the mayor is against illegal guns. i talked to michael nutter calling congress dysfunctional
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when it comes to letting the expiration of the assault, the ban on assault weapons. what now? >> the answer is not much. despite what the mayor said, i don't think we should expect very much to happen at all by way of gun legislation. the reason is just bottom line is for democrats, they believe it's bad politics and have believed that since about the year 2000 when al gore was running for president. it was right after a big, big fight on capitol hill about gun legislation. he was the forefront of it. he did not do well in some of those critical areas of the country where gun rights is a big, big issue even and especially among democrats and independent voters. they said maybe we should drop it and not put it so high on our priority list. that's why on the past decade and 12 years we've seen very
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little, if any movement from the democrats. those are the ones who pushed this legislation to begin with because they don't think it's good politics. >> i want to play some sound because we heard from the president and mitt romney speaking about this tragedy. we'll listen to what they did and what they didn't say. >> if there's anything to take away from this tragedy it's the reminder that life is very fragile. our time is limited and it's precious. >> grieving and worried families in aurora are surrounded with love today and not just by those with them and holding them in their arms. they can know they are being lifted up in prayer by people in every part of our nation. >> no talk of gun control in either of those addresses today. mayor bloomburg critical of that. the brady people on board. nra is quiet.
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which candidate has the most to lose? >> president obama. there's no question about that. look i mentioned al gore and rural districts and red states. look at the states that he fills he has to win that he did win last time. virginia, forget it. there's so many democrats and independent who is are very much in favor of gun rights. ohio is another example. the list goes on. he simply can't talk about it. the president and the republican presidential candidate didn't talk about it. i got statement after statement on a blackberry from members of congress, even democratics and none of them even mentioned the idea of gun control. that speaks to the fact this is not a topic that most people want to touch because they know they can't pass. >> thank you. the gun shops, the car, possibly bomb. police continue to search for clues in the colorado movie theater shooting. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back.
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all right. back to this horrible story out of aurora, colorado. the latest numbers we have 12 dead, 59 wounded. these are the latest numbers we
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have from this midnight shooting inside this packed screening of the new batman movie "dark knight rises." colorado authorities are not speculating on a motive for the massacre by the suspected gunman. here he is, 24-year-old james holmes, in the process of withdrawing from ph.d. neuroscience program at the university of colorado. but he was according to police very much so armed last night. >> mr. holmes was apprehended outside his white hyundai parked in the back of the theater. and he was apprehended with three weapons in the car. and one was left at the scene inside the theater. the weapons are as follow, an ar-15 assault rifle, a remmington 870, 12-gauge shotgun, and a 40 caliber glok
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handgun. another handgun found in the car. we're not sure if that was used in the scene. i imagine it will be asked how many rounds are fired. my answer is we have no capability right now of calculating that number. there were many, many rounds fired. our best available count on injuries as of right now is that 71 people were shot. and that 12 are deceased. we believe that as part of this assault mr. holmes set off two devices to distract the crowd. they ignited in some form and released some sort of irritant or smoke. and we know his car was parked nearby in the back. >> right this moment here they are. authorities, fbi, police, atf, they are very, very carefully approaching and trying to enter
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that third floor apartment of the suspected gunman. when police got there they did confirm they found it has been booby trapped. >> we are not sure what we're dealing with in the home. they appear to be incendiary devices. there are some chemical elements there and also some incendiary elements that are linked together with all kinds of wires. as a layman it's not something i've ever seen before. we have a lot of smart bomb techs up there trying to figure out what we're going to do. >> again, the very latest information from aurora, colorado. police puts the number of dead in that movie theater shooting at 12, 59 people wounded. my volt is the best vehicle i've ever driven. i bought the car because of its efficiency. i bought the car because i could eliminate gas from my budget. i don't spend money on gasoline. it's been 4,000 miles since my last trip to the gas station. it's pretty great. i get a bunch of kids waving at me... giving me the thumbs up.
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i laid down at first to take cover. and then i helped my friends that i was with get out. and we jumped out.
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i saw people from a lady being pregnant to a father with his kids with him that are like 4 years old. and grown men, actually, a teacher of mine was actually there. >> that was darius harvey. he was in the theater when a gunman burst in and started shooting. he is one of the lucky ones. a dozen people are dead. 59 wounded. this incident now the largest mass shooting in the history of the united states because of the number of people killed but also injured. the governor of colorado puts into words also today what's going through the mind of just about any parent anywhere in the country today. take a listen. >> there's not one of us that doesn't read or hear this story certainly anyone who has children and think about it being your child in that movie theater. your cousin's child or your neighbor's child.
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and that reality makes the pain and the grief too intense for words. but we can't let it keep us from our lives. >> thank you for being with me today. our thoughts and prayers go to those in colorado. i'm brooke baldwin. now to wolf blitzer. "the situation room" begins now. brooke, thanks very much. we're continuing to follow the breaking news. >> i got seven down in theater 9. >> a horrible mass shooting in a movie theater near denver. 71 people dead -- excuse me, 71 people shot, 12 of them are dead. many of the wounded still are in critical condition. a suspect is in custody. colorado's governor calling him a man with a "deranged mind." we're getting new pictures and details as we speak including more from the survivors and heartbreaking stories about the victims.
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i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we're going live to the scene of the shooting in just a moment. but first a quick rundown of what happened on this horrible day. the shooting started after midnight about 12:38 a.m. in theater 9 of the century aurora 16 multiplex. aurora's a suburb of denver. about 15 minutes into the midnight showing of the new batman movie "the dark knight rise rises," a lone gunman came in near the screen. >> when he came in, i thought he was some kind of prop or thee tri kal guy. he let off a canister of gas and it exploded. everybody thought it was a prop, but then he shot up in the air and everybody started to panic at that point. when he went straight from the air, he came down with his gun in my face. he was about three feet away from me at that point. in that instant i hst

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