tell me about that goes to motive. i think when you're not right there and in it, and trying to help people as they move through you this horrific crisis, when you stand outside, you think, why would someone do this? does anything go to motive that you can share with us? >> you know, i am speechless because i've been asked -- obviously this is a deeply troubled, twisted, delusional person. and i can't for the life of me, i don't, you know, i can't conceive of it. >> we might have to leave that to psychiatrists. has there been any -- can you tell me if investigators talked to the parents of the suspect? >> again, i don't know that. so i know that they have done hundreds of interviews, so they are certainly leaving no stone unturned. >> okay. and let's talk about those that

remain injured. i know there were still several in critical condition. what do we know about the status of those that were injured? >> well, the -- i spent yesterday, most of yesterday going from hospital to hospital and talking to families and in some cases talking to the wounded. it was amazing how buoyant the spirits were in many of the rooms and even with people who suffered grievous wounds, there is a resiliency, i don't think it is just colorado, the west is always known for a kind of strength of character and a comeback and rebound, but it really was something i felt -- it was an american quality. at one point i talked to -- in one hospital, people from three different countries that were refugees, one was from tunisia, one from jordan, one from asia, all had been wounded, all came to this country escaping violence. and to a person, they said, we love america.

we still love america. we're so glad we're here. it was very touching. >> i know that you have been on the phone with the president, the president is coming to visit you today. what can you share with me about his reaction and what will transpire today when he gets there? >> well, he called me, you know, very early on friday morning, he obviously wants to do what he could to help. he, again, said, you know, if i'm going to be a distraction or a problem in any way, i don't -- you know, i shouldn't come. as we talked to individuals in the hospital, we talked to mayor holden from aurora, has done an incredible job, and pretty much it was unanimous the president could come, it would be a very, very positive thing for this community, for -- especially for the families of the victims. >> and what will he be doing when he's there? will he meet with those in the hospital? is there a service hill attend?

>> i think he'll meet with a group of the families and the groups that come there. i think he's planning on trying to get to the hospital. they haven't finalized his itinerary. he won't say we have a large public community vigil in aurora at 6:30 tonight and he felt that would be too disruptive and it would have been. everyone would have had to have come two hours early, it would have overpowered it. and i think it was very sensitive that he's recognized that he's going to do what he can to help these families, but not disrupt any more than absolutely necessary. >> you said something on friday that caught my attention, talking about the safety, relative safety of the country and the state and the cities. and you said we need to recognize we can't allow people that are aberrations of nature to take away the joys and freedoms that we enjoy. i know you know that the u.s. conference of mayors, along with mayor bloomberg a in

particular of new york, some on capitol hill, and former governor rendell have all said, folks, we need to get serious about gun control. i wonder in that statement that you made, were you speaking in in particular of the second amendment or what were you talking about there? >> no, i was talking -- i think -- i think the political will come, but at this point, in a funny way, this guy is a terrorist. he wasn't a terrorist in the sense of politics. but for whatever twisted reasons we can barely even imagine, he wanted to create terror. he wanted to put fear into people's lives and for so many of us, you know, movies are one of the places where we find sol solace. when it is freezing in the wint erk t winter, the movie theater is warm, you get out of your daily life. we can't get away from that.

20 kids were organized last night to go see batman, just to make -- to drive a stake in the ground and say we're not going to be terrorized. we're not going to accept that. we're not going to let that happen. >> when you look at what transpired here, a man apparently with no criminal background, not even any contact with police, speeding ticket, i think, was the only thing found there, when you look, and if you're not familiar with the interior west or the midwest or, you know, lots of rural places here on the east coast, and don't totally understand the gun culture, when you look at what this young man was able to acquire over three or four months, with an assault weapon, a shotgun, 9 millimeter glock, another 9 millimeter, all these tear gas things and 6,000 rounds of ammo from the internet, i think people stand back and look at that and say shouldn't some bell have gone off somewhere and you're looking and saying, whoa,

somebody is collecting an arsenal and yet there was no way to connect all those things. should there be? >> well, i mean, i'm not sure there is any way in a free society to be able to do that kind of -- who is buying things in different places. certainly we can try and i'm sure we will try to create some checks and balances on these things, but this is a case of evil, of somebody who is -- who was an aberration of nature. and, you know, if it wasn't one weapon, it would have been another. he was diabolical. to look at what he had in his apartment, and what his intentions were, i mean, even now it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. he was -- just terrifying, just the thought he could spend so much time planning such evil. >> and do you see any law anywhere that could stop a man

with no record in a society that protects the second amendment that might have prevented this? >> you know, we are certainly looking at that and trying to say, you know, how do you prevent this and the virginia tech shootings, i look at -- we have been looking at the shootings all across the country. and how do we preserve our freedoms, right? and all those things that define this country and yet try to prevent something like this happening. let me tell you that there is no easy answer. >> but you would -- what i hear from you is that you would be open to people who wanted to suggest a gun law or something that might prevent this sort of thing, but at the moment, you can't imagine what that would be. >> yes. i'm happy to look at anything. but it is, again, this person, if we had -- if there were no assault weapons available, if there were no this or no that,

this guy is going to find something. he's going to know how to create a bomb. who knows where his mind would have gone, clearly, very intelligent individual, however twisted, you know. i don't know -- that's the problem. this is really -- this is a human issue in some profound way that this level of disturbed individual that we can't recognize. that the people around him obviously had no idea this was something that he was capable of. >> right. governor john hickenlooper of colorado, rough several days for you and for so many people in colorado. certainly we're thinking about you out here on the east coast. thank you. >> thank you. and trust me, we will rise above this, i guarantee it. >> thanks.

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i am joined by arizona republican senator john mccain. senator, i want to talk to you in depth at the end of this about guns and the role of guns in society. what i know, because of the tucson shooting and gabby giffords, this is something you want to get off your chest. >> just briefly. it is a terrible tragedy and that bears repeating. but i hope also that folks in

colorado could look at what we did in tucson was great healing, president of the united states came and gave a great speech. it was really our community and our state united, and i hope that the people of aurora and the state of colorado will also begin on that. it is tough. but i think that we have emerged in arizona where there has been significant improvement. and so i hope that everybody knows how tough it is as well. >> i think governor hickenlooper was headed in that direction with the community coming together. let me move you first overseas and talk to you about syria. this is a subject you have been heavily involved in, pushing for more u.s. action, more u.s. leadership, not boots on the ground but getting some help to these rebels. i wanted to play something that leon panetta said this week for you. >> the violence there has only gotten worse and the loss of lives has only increased.

which tells us that this is a situation that is rapidly spinning out of control. >> really? is that it? i hate to be sarcastic. but because of our failure to assist, because of our failure to lead other willing nations in the region like turkey and saudi arabia and qatar and others, this situation is now deteriorated to a situation which is really, really very dangerous. we now have -- >> is it irretrievable? >> i think it is retrievable, but i think it is far, far more complicated and difficult than if we had weighed in a long time ago. more al qaeda fighters, media reports that chemical weapons are being moved around. israel being very concerned about some of those chemical weapons reaching hezbollah. the -- not to mention the massacre of 17, 18,000 people while this administration has

relied on the goodwill of russia and the united nations security council relied on russia for a long period of time, that they would take bashar al assad to russia. it has been shameful. it is shameful. and we need to -- now the latest reports are they're going to help, but they're not going to provide weapons. they want other countries to do that. these are helicopter, gun shops, tanks, artillery that are slaughtering people. now there is a risk, i'm not going to say it is going to happen, a risk in this desperation, bashar assad may use chemical weapons and clearly the israelis see this as a serious threat because the situation has gone on and on and on, more extremists have come into the fight, the more -- the more difficulty there will be once this is over. >> we are where we are. so, like, as of right now, we are still working through the u.n. or trying to work through the u.n. and you laugh.

do you -- >> how many times do we have to try that. kofi annan has been abject failure. we keep supporting that. we keep pushing the reset button with russia, that somehow they and china, we know they're down, but the decisions are dictated by russia and china. what do we need to do? get arms equipment to them, establish a buffer zone. >> you want -- >> sure, why not russian arms are coming in. iranians are on the ground. the iranians are helping russia and they're committing acts of -- they are committing terrorist acts around the world, they're planning on terrorist acts. the talks with iran on their nuclear development has broken down and where is the united states of america? and the president has not yet, in my memory, in recent times, spoken up for the people who are being slaughtered in the treats of aleppo homes, damascus and others today.

>> let me ask you about another area of the world. that is israel. i want to play you something that president obama was down in west palm beach, something that he said recently. >> i want everybody here to know, under my administration we haven't just preserved the unbreakable bond with israel. we have strengthened it. we have stood by israel's side in the face of criticism, our military and intelligence cooperation has never been closer. >> do you think that's true? >> everybody knows that a relations with israel have never been worse, beginning with the demands for a free settlement at the beginning of the obama administration. the president sends hiss national security adviser to israel to tell them not to attack iran, thereby weakening israel. relations have never been worse and, again, it is a lack of trust, not on the part of the

israelis, about what the united states of america will or will not do. >> let me turn you back now to the situation in colorado. and remind our viewers of what has happened. back to 1999, littleton, colorado, otherwise known as columbine, 13 killed in a mass shooting, 2007, virginia tech, 32 killed. 2009, ft. hood, texas, 13 killed. 2012, colorado, 12 killed. can't we do anything to stop this? >> i don't know to tell you the truth what we can do. and this would immediately lead to the issue of gun control. the killer in norway was in a country that had very strict gun control laws and yet he was still able to acquire the necessary means to initiate and carry out a mass slaughter. i think we need to look at everything. everything should be looked at. but to think that somehow gun

control is or increased gun control is the answer, in my view, that would have to be proved. >> you would be open to the discussion. i think part of what people are looking at are these magazines and these automatic weapons where you can shoot down 100 people, if i understand it, this suspect's gun jammed and he had to go to ones that didn't fire so rapidly. but he was able to buy and had on him 100 round cartridge. he was able to buy over three months four weapons, 6,000 ammo, cartridges, over the internet. if we had put that all together, someone would have said, we need to check on apartment 3b or whatever it was because this guy is gathering up an arsenal, which also includes tear gas. you get to this point where you don't want the government spying on what people are buying. on the other hand, what is the price? the price is all of these things we have just read off.

>> well, first of all, let's remember it is a constitutional right. second of all, i think if you could prove the case that indeed has a positive effect, we had a ban on assault weapons that expired some years ago. it didn't change the situation at all in my view. so i think that the strongest second amendment rights people would be glad to have a conversation. but to somehow leap to the conclusion this was somehow caused by the fact that we don't have more gun control legislation, i don't think it has been proved. >> senator john mccain, good to have you. >> thank you for having me on. still, no answer to the motive behind the colorado shootings. insight from a threat assessment expert next. in fact, i'm already seeing your best friend, justin. ♪ i would've appreciated a proactive update on the status of our relationship. who do you think i am, tim? quicken loans? at quicken loans, we provide you with proactive updates on the status of your home loan.

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joining me is barry stodak, a threat assessment expert who worked with a number of federal and local law enforcement agencies and we want to mention we learned of your expertise through your daughter who is a member of our staff and a valued one at that. let me start with something governor hickenlooper said at the top of the show, i don't understand, he said, what would cause someone to do this. we don't want to excuse, but it would help us if we could understand what this was about. >> well, in terms of motivation, candy, what we know about what

pushes people to do acts like this really comes from the work of dr. robert fine and brian boscell, the pioneers that look at what motivates people to become asassens or commit mass killings. though it is impossible to really discern what the specific situation was, in this case, at this time, we do know that the most common motivations for people who carry out acts like this is, one, to draw attention to themselves, gain notoriety or fame. in some cases to perceive what they see to be an injustice, you know, to avenge something that was done to them. to bring attention to an injustice that they see going on somewhere in the world. you know, or in some cases to create a permanent connection between them and a person, an event or a place. >> john hinckley comes to mind.

>> certainly. >> let me ask you, as far as we know, this young man had no record. we listened to the adults describe him in his -- where he grew up and they all seem to be saying, it is nice and he was polite, a little quiet but a nice young man. then you talked to some of those who knew him and they say, he was a loner, a little different. but lots of people are loners and a little different and don't go shoot up movie theaters. how do you know the difference? >> well, again, the studies that have been conducted indicated that there is no profile of people who commit these kinds of things. so you can't tell through characteristics. but what we have learned through behavioral threat assessment and this is a methodology that has been used for well over a decade new, by the secret service, by the u.s. marshals service, by the capital police, is that there are certain behaviors that we see marking a path towards

violence. and so if we can discern that there is a particular set of behaviors that we have seen time and time again, in past situations like this, we can sometimes intervene and divert that person from the path of violence. >> but there -- as far as we know with this case, and obviously haven't been in touch with the suspect or anything like that, i think what the people are ready to accept there are random things you cannot see. and we're sort of left to the whims. there is no way to profile this young man. do you think someone around him might have thought he seems troubled or can you just out of the blue switch from a quiet, nice -- >> one of the behavioral characteristics we saw in most of the cases we looked at, exactly what you said. the people who were close to the individual in their life were worried about them, worried about the trajectory of their

beha behavior. >> doesn't seem to have any friends, that kind of thing. >> that goes to characteristics rather than behavior. some of the people who carry out these acts are loners. some of them have a lot of friends. sometimes, some cases, we have seen in school shootings, they have talked to friends, they have engaged other people in their thoughts. so there is no one pattern in terms of traits. but in terms of behaviors, we want to be able to look at these behaviors and this is how these federal law enforcement agencies work cases on this. if it comes to their attention they stafrt looking for this pattern of behavior and intervene and make sure that this person doesn't carry out what their intentions are. >> thanks for your expertise this morning. >> thanks. >> when we come back, a race that could tip the balance of power in the senate. much do we ? that'll be $973.42. ya know, your rates and fees aren't exactly competitive. who do you think i am, quicken loans? [ spokesman ] when you refinance your mortgage with quicken loans,

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havirginia senate candidate george allen and tim kaine faced off yesterday. with virginia having experienced its own tragedy at virginia tech, we began with guns. >> when i was a member of the general assembly of mr. jefferson's seat and it was my amendment that said that when anybody is buying a firearm that they'll be regardless of the firearm, there willing an instant criminal records check. i think the instant criminal records checks including mental disorders or drug abuse is indicated in any firearm purchases. we need to wait to get all the facts and make decisions as to what can be done when such an abhorrent act occurs. >> let me see if i can get you directly to the question. knowing what we know now, are

there enough gun laws we could impose that would stop someone from doing this if they have a clean record? >> well, it would be complete hubris to say we can put policies in place that would stop bad things from happening. what we need to do is learn and fix them and minimize the chance of these things happening. >> we touched on other subjects important to this election cycle, the economy, military spending and infused through it all, politics. >> i noticed governor allen as i'm sure everybody has that you have run some ads about how governor kaine will be president obama's senator and not virginia's senator. i wonder, if got me thinking about your relationship with governor romney. what major policy differences do you anticipate that you would be willing to break with governor romney? >> let me answer the other aspects of it. we are in two different parties

two different philosophies. i think republicans generally speaking trust free people and free enterprise. i don't like limits or restrictions on people unless they're harming someone else. i like decisions being made closest to the people if possible. now, on mitt romney, there will be times i don't agree with my fellow republicans. i didn't agree with them when they had the bridge to nowhere. i was one of 15 who voted against that. my first priority is not disagreements and disagreements with anyone. my first priority is the hard working taxpayers of virginia. >> governor allen, the question -- i'm sorry, governor kaine, the question was about bipartisanship. i thought it would be -- bipartisanship and breaking with the party line. >> i think many in the room who have been in virginia politics for a while remember his famous quote when he was governor. my job is to knock democrats soft teeth down their whining

throats. george, as a governor called general assembly members dinosaurs, eleaitiselitists, can kerry and the clintons when he served with them in the senate. he's got a billboard up that says tim kaine, obama senator, not virginia's. as if somehow i'm not a real virginian because i support the president of the united states. that's yesterday's politics. we're not going to solve our problems if we continue down the path of smash mouth, consider the other side rather than the opponent. we have to compete against the world to win. >> your smashing teeth remark was not literal. but go ahead and -- >> thank you. it is an example of where sports analogies are not appropriate and that was a mistake on my part for it. working with the other party, tim, you were able to bring

republicans and democrats together as governor. each and every one of them, even the one that sponsored your tax increase voted against it. it was i think a 97-0 vote. in the u.s. senate, you mentioned hillary. senator clinton at the time, now secretary of state, we actually went together on what is called the shine act. this is screening for infants to make sure that we're screening for maladies or diseases so there is better treatment. john kerry and i real ly don't agree on many issues but we agree on wi-fi. there is other senators who we rarely agree but we worked together to keep taxes off internet access and the national nanotechnology initiative which i was a leader and cybersecurity. the reality is what campaigns are about, i think, are not running down the others. there is contrasts. that's what we have in competitive representative democracy, contrasting or competing ideas. >> george, you may say campaigns aren't about running other people down, but that's just

always what you do. you continue to do it to the day. you talked to -- you talked about working with hillary clinton. here is what you said about hillary clinton when you were a colleague of hers. she so contrary to all of our values, principles and ideals. you said repeatedly i would rather be with george bush drinking beer than nibbling cheese with -- and wine with hillary clinton at her mansion. you called george john kerry an elite massachusetts liberal who does not embrace the value yous we hold dear in virginia. these are senators you served with. i would hate to hear what you said about people you weren't serving with. you're the one with the billboards up in virginia. tim kaine, obama's senator, not virgini virginians. i'll make this pledge to all of you. i'll be a partner with whoever is with the president of the united states. >> you said frequently on the campaign trail you want to be that last vote -- >> deciding vote.

>> to undo obama care and replace it with what? is there anything in obama care that you think ought to -- on the day it comes undone be put back in place? >> yeah. tim has been the hand -- was the handpicked chairman of the democratic national committee by president obama and in effect the handpicked senator. and recruited to run for the senate. >> i am highly offended at that. i am campaigning -- i am campaigning full time for 19 months on my own with the support of my family for you to say i'm handpicked by somebody else rather than doing it myself is completely out of line and it proves the point that i just made. he cannot help himself. he cannot help himself. >> watch it, you guys. >> reclaiming my time with it, tim, you spent the whole quarter, last quarter of your term, last term as governor, rather than giving your full attention to the responsibilities, you were giving political speeches all

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after yesterday's debate, i had the chance to sit down with both candidates at the homestead resort in hot springs, virginia. first, my conversation with george allen. i began by asking him how he pushes back against the imagery that kaine is trying to project on him. >> tim is one, though, who he's the one who has taken the most partisan job in america while he was governor, as chairman of the democratic national committee, raising money for them, speaking all over the country, while trying to raise taxes on virginians and so your bottom line comparison is whose ideas work best. while i was governor, over 300,000 new jobs were created while tim kaine was trying to raise taxes as governor, over 100,000 jobs were lost in virginia. >> let me ask you about the split ticket idea here that governor kaine can somehow get people determined to vote for romney and pull them away from you. but that the idea that someone determined to vote for president obama would vote for you, the

reverse does not work. can he siphon off some of the romney voters? >> i don't think so. the romney voters, republican voters, what we found so far in all the polls, look at them yourself, is our campaign, tim kaine's versus george allen, has been neck and neck throughout. romney's right now generally running behind. i think he's going to catch up in virginia because he was tied up in a primary, president obama has been running ads for six months here in virginia. i think it will be pretty close. what people care about are jobs and the economy. >> i want to ask you -- >> i do run into folks who are probably going to vote for president obama. and they like president obama, but for whatever reasons they like president obama. they also like my ideas. and it ends up being not so much a political or issue-based approach as i like you, i like what you've done and so forth, so you'll probably get some of

that, but for the most part -- >> people who like you and will vote for you regardless of the fact that you and the president have nothing in common. >> we agree that 26-year-olds ought to stay on their family's policies because they can't find jobs with this economy. >> let me ask you, as you know, governor romney has taken quite a hit over bain capital and also over his refusal to release anything other than one year of tax releases and we're going to expect this year's when they get done, he says. do you think that this has become such a distraction to him, he ought to just do it, so you can move on? >> i'm not going to run mitt romney's campaign. it is all i can do to run our own campaign. >> but you can see how it is a distraction. >> i think it is a distraction from what most people care about. what are you going to do in the future? what are you going to do to get the economy turned around? >> just yes or no, purely as a political analyst, if you were mitt romney, would you release those tax releases -- tax returns? >> candy, you won't get me into being a campaign manager for anybody other than myself. >> governor allen, thank you for

being here. thank you for doing the debate. good to see you. >> next up, governor kaine. >> i have had a career of serving people. i was a missionary in honduras. a civil rights lawyer for 17 years. i was a city councilman, layer, lieutenant governor, governor. his suggestion that i'm running for office just because somebody else asked me to, i've not lived my life that way. i live me entire life to serve other people. so his negotiatiotion, you're handpicked, come on, i had to give up a salary and health care benefits to run for the u.s. senate and i'm doing it because the nation needs people who know how to find common ground moving forward. i know the experience now of going out and buying health care on the open market with no employer covering me, which a lot of americans you know have to go through. so the notion that i'm just doing this because somebody encouraged me to, that one

stunned me. i did get a little bit mad. >> seemed to me you worked pretty hard to define governor allen as a mean spirited guy. what difference does that make? as you know, there are a lot of mean spirited people on capitol hill. big deal. if he's got ideas and he's willing to work, why does it matter to a voter what your personality is, as you see it. >> what virginians tell me, candy, again and again before they talk about issues, we have to have people who can work together. we can have the best ideas and i think we have got really good ideas about how to get the economy going. if the two camps get in their corners and won't work together, that's why we're having such significant problems. the whole inability to reach any deal on our fiscal responsibility going forward is not because of an absence of ideas, it is because people won't work together. when my opponent says i'll knock democrats off, teeth down their whiney throats, when he casugges

i'm anti-virginian because i support the president, these are the things that happen in politics that pull people apart and tear people down. we have to have folks in politics who build folks up and pull us together. >> this is a dead even race for the presidency and for this particular senate seat. pretty much people have made up their minds, you know, the faithful. >> small numbers on each side. >> this amount of people, what is the game changer in this race? >> i think that the undecided voters are largely independents. they're largely people who don't want to put a lot of after their name and what do they look like for in a candidate? they look for a candidate that can produce results. being able to work together will lead to more results than casually knocking around the other side. >> governor kaine, happy trails. >> thank for doing this today. >> absolutely. it was fun. it was fun. >> our special thanks to the virginia bar association for including us in their debate. when we come back, remembering the victims of the movie theater massacre.

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time for a check of the top stories. the ncaa plans to announce corrective and punitive sanctions for penn state university tomorrow in connection with the campus' child sex abuse scandal. meanwhile, the statue of late football coach joe paterno has been removed. in a written statement, university president rodney erickson said, the statue has become a source of division and will be taken to a secure location. authorities investigating the disappearance of two young iowa girls say there is reason to believe they're still alive. and fbi spokeswoman won't say what evidence investigators have to make them believe the girls are still alive, but is urging anyone with information to step forward. bradley wiggins made history this afternoon as he became the first british rider to win the tour de france. he won by the margin of 3:21. now he turns his attention to the london olympics. president obama visits

aurora, colorado, later today. he meets with victims of the movie theater shooting, their families and local officials. thanks for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. get analysis and extras. "fareed zakaria gips" is next fr those of you in the u.s. jordan ghawi lost his sister. remember the names of the victims, jordan, wrote, and not the coward who committed this act. ♪

this is "gps", the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we have a great show for you today. we'll start with mitt romney and the world of private equity. his run for the presidency has brought the once insider world into the public's eye. but what really goes on there? i'll talk to steve rattner who ran a large private equity fund and is an obama backer. then, if greece did exit the euro, how in the world would it happen? and just how calamitous would it be? harvard's economic historian niall ferguson will tell us. also, are you worried about global warming that this wacky

weather? if your nation was just a few feet above sea level, you would be really worried. we'll talk with a former president of just such a nation. and why am i wiggling my fingers in a mirror here, to try to understand the wonders of the human brain. come along for an amazing tour. but first, here is my take. the attacks and counterattacks in this presidential campaign are, i suppose, inevitable. but let's be honest. they're largely untrue or irrelevant. whatever the paperwork shows, mitt romney was not running bain capital after 1999 and he if he was outsourcing jobs, it is not sleazy, it is how you run a business efficiently. on the other side, romney's recent claim accusing the president of shoveling government grants to his political supporters is so