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are you happy? >> yes, i'm happy. i'm coming back to my country with five olympic medals. and that's amazing right there. yeah, i mean, had ups and downs this olympics. i wanted to do better in a couple of events, but you know what, you've got to take the good in with the bad and the bad in with the good. >> last night's ration. it's been an unpredictable competition. it's been great. it's been very unpredictable, very exciting. the fortunes have fluctuated. last nye i saw a great champion rising to the challenge of you. he wanted to prove a point to you, that he wasn't finished. >> no matter what, he's a racer. and at the end of the day, he'll step up on the blocks and race anyone. and that's what i do, too. we have a great rivalry going. we've been racing against each other for eight years now. and you know what, we have a good friendship, too, out of it,
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too. >> do you compete on other stuff? >> at other stuff? >> are you competitive with each other? drinking competitions? >> yeah, i'd say so. >> who gets more women? >> i've been asked this question before. and i don't know. >> yes you do. come on. it's you, isn't it? >> i think it's a tossup. >> there's only two of you, bro. it's you, isn't it? >> i'm sure it's -- >> don't be so modest. >> 60/40. >> in your favor. i've got a great clip to pay. this is an interview with your mother, whom i love, by the way. i can see where you get your competitive spirit. who would be the right kind of woman for your boy? >> they would have to be a family-loving person that could stand having a large family. and crazy family at that. and just be a real to
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themselves. >> there you have it. your mother would like you to settle down with a nice good, wholesome family girl. >> i would love to. i mean, that's what i want. i definitely -- i mean, the past four years, or eight years, i really wanted to focus on my swimming. and now that i'm getting older, i want to go on to the more family side. i mean, that's what i really want later on in life is having a family and having kids. >> she also said that you've only got time for one-night stands at the moment. quite a story from your mother. >> i know what she meant by that. >> what does she mean by that? >> she meant that i go on dates. >> right. >> not the one-night stand in a bad way that everyone else is -- >> is there a bad way? you're a young chap. >> i am young, but that's not me.
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like i like being in relationships, and when i am in a relationship, i want to give them my entire heart. and lately, i haven't been able to do that, just because swimming has taken such a big role in my life right now. >> you could go to a desert island and it would be perfect because you could swim all day. you could take one woman to spend the rest of your life. who would you take right now? >> right now, blake lively. >> would you really? >> yeah. she's gorgeous. >> have you met her? no, never met her. >> if she's watching this, and she probably is, what would you say to her? >> i would be like, hi. do you want to go to an island with me? >> she's dating ryan reynolds. i think he's overrated. he's not all that good looking. you could have a shot. he can't do a backstroke like you. >> so i got him on that. >> i think you've got it. blake lively. a perfect match. >> it is.
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>> tell me about your future. look at your watch, and i'm thinking, you don't need the money, right? look at this thing, it's like a clock. >> yeah. >> that's not really a watch, is it? that's like a clock. how much is that worth? >> a lot of money. way over $10,000. >> really? >> yeah. >> and your grill thing which we'll come to, when my surprise guest comes on, that's $25,000. >> yes. >> you can walk around here at any one time, what, 50 grand worth of -- >> at least. >> you like your bling, do you? >> i do. i love my bling. >> tell me about being an american at the olympic games. what it means to you to represent your country. >> it means the whole world. it means everything. you know, you get a kind of like goose bumps when you walk into a village or any kind of arena at the olympics, because everyone from every country just stops
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what they're doing and just stares at you. because team usa is coming through. and we're like the most dominating country in the world. and they just stare at you. >> i'm not sure you are anymore, ryan. the chinese are winning more golds than you guys at the moment. >> you know what, the olympics are not over yeflt. i'm rooting for team usa. and i know we still have a couple more swimming races. so i can bet you that we're going to see a lot more gold. >> did you wake up and think chinese? are they the big rivals now? >> you know what, it's hard to choose from a different country, because there's so many that are outstanding. and it's just the way the sport has evolved. if everyone's getting a lot faster, they're finding new ways of training, to getting their selves faster, and it's becoming a great olympics.
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>> when do you win gold? do you actually know you've won? when you won the first competition, the 400, did you know you'd won that race? because it was so close. >> no. >> so you -- >> i touched the wall. i got my breath back. i took off my goggles and cap. i turned around, and then i saw. so it was after like probably around 20 seconds after touching the wall that i knew that i won. >> did you expect michael phelps to come and congratulate you, or did you understand in that moment he was like, you're the last guy he wants to talk to? >> you know, he did come up and say congrats. >> in the pool, right? >> not in the pool. but i knew he was kind of upset because he wanted to get a medal, if not win. because at this state, that we're in at the olympics, like we're going there to win, we're not going for second or third. so, yeah, he was disappointed. but at the same time he knew we're teammates. >> for people who have never trained for this kind of thing, i've spoken to michael about the
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training he's done, he's incredible. what kind of dedication does it take to be a gold medal winner at the olympic games? >> it takes a lot, a lot of early-morning practices, and going into a freezing cold pool. >> i can't even understand what would make somebody do that. it's 4:00 in the morning, you get up, you have a load of raw eggs, get in a freezing pool. >> yeah, i mean, it's hard. >> what drives you? what is in your head? >> that, this right here. getting more golds. once you put on a gold medal, and you see your national anthem being raised, it's everything. it's the world. >> what do you feel when you're standing there? you've got the gold, they're playing the anthem. what is going through your mind? >> chills. excitement. everything. knowing that i'm not just swimming for myself, i'm swimming for a whole entire country. and that they're all back home cheering for me. it's one of the greatest
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feelings in the world. >> do you feel a real patriot when you're swimming? do you feel like you are swimming for america? >> of course. when i put on that swim cap, that has that american flag, i definitely feel patriotic. words can't even describe how -- >> greatest feeling in your life? >> nothing like it. it's something that you will cherish for the rest of your life. >> can you eat whatever you like? are you just so fit now you can go to the huge mcdonald's over there, the world's biggest mcdonald's, gorge yourself on big macs for an hour? >> after this interview i'm going to go over there and get a big mac. >> seriously? >> yeah. just because in swimming, you use every muscle in your body. it's probably one of the best exercises. and we train so much, we burn so many calories, that i'm able to eat whatever i want. and honestly, not gain weight. >> you're a new yorker.
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and then you moved off. do you feel like you're a new yorker still? >> no. >> what do you feel? >> i can't do the cold that much. i'm a floridaian. i've been there most of my life now. i love the warm weather. >> you moved to florida, what, you were 8 years old you said? >> 11. >> 11 years old. >> yes. >> we're going to bring out a little surprise for you now. in's one guy i really wanted to talk to, your biggest fan, coach, friend, your dad. after the break i'm going to bring out the man who i imagine really knows your secrets. >> all right. >> you're worried, right?
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you've been his mentor, father, friend, i would imagine occasionally his tormenter. you must be very proud this week. >> i'm extremely proud of ryan. we get to the olympics, and i wrote a letter to my swim team back home, and what the olympics really stand for. and it's not about gold medals, world records and things of that sort, it's about the world coming together and competing against each other in the world of sport. and, you know, you walk away from a venue and you see, you know, troubled countries, their t-shirts, their name is on the back of the t-shirts, and you really get the feeling the world has come together and put all the difference toss the side, and competition brings that out. and it's good competition. i've seen countries and individuals congratulate each other. and console each other. and that's really what the olympic experience is really about. and i'm extremely proud of ryan, and what he has done for the united states, and how he presents himself as a human
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being. >> i couldn't agree more. he's a great role model. how much of that is down to virtues that you've instilled in him? when he was a young guy, what kind of young boy did you try to steer him toward being a man? >> i tried to steer him as being an honest, fun-loving, caring individual. and i think something that a lot of people in this world doesn't really realize about ryan, he's very sensitive. sensitive about other people. i've noticed that since he was an early age. and very caring about other people's feelings. and how other people perceive him. and i think that has a lot to do with, you know, being born and raised on a farm and being out in nature. and i think that's, you know, one of the things that i look at ryan, that i'm the most proud of is the way he presents himself to others. and the way he treats others. >> did you push him hard as a dad? are you one of those parents
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that, you know what, win? >> yeah, it wasn't like that. it was more like, we were in competition. everything i did, he wanted to do better. >> did he ever beat you, or did you say, you know what -- >> no, never, never. >> come on, ryan, jump in here. the old man said you never beat him. >> i beat him plenty of times. >> up until he was 13, i was in control. after 13, i didn't want to mess with him again. but we wor challenge each other, drink a milk at the kitchen table, see who could drink the milk the fastest, who would get out to the paper. it was something that my dad kind of built into me and i kind of just transferred that to my sons. to challenge themselves intern alli. of course, i won all the time, except until we were wrestling in the kitchen, and he was about 13. and i --
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>> yeah. >> well, i was a little bit out of breath after about 30 seconds. i did everything i could to stay with him. and after that, i kind of backed off. you know, then he would come back when he's 15, 16, wanted to wrestle a little bit more and i'm like, no, not today, i've got a -- i always came up with an excuse. >> ryan, i'm detecting where you get the competitive spirit, the charm, the twinkle in the eye, and the ruthless determination to win. the old man. >> oh, from him. it's been in our dna for a long time. like he said, his father, just passed it on to him, he passed it on to me. bd and hopefully i'll pass it on to my kids. >> what is the more extreme emotion, i've wondered this. the father of an olympic star who has a chance to win a lot of gold medals. is there more extreme emotion when they win a gold or lose a race they really wanted to win? as a parent, which is the more
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extreme? >> that's a hard question to answer. one extreme is, winning the gold medal, for an example, when he won his first gold medal in beijing, the emotion that came through me is a climax of 30-some-odd years of coaching, and 20-some-odd years of being a father, that cultivated to that one event. >> i must say, it was the first time i saw my dad cry. >> really? >> yes. >> was when? >> when i was on the podium, the national anthem was being raised and they showed the jumbotron. and the video camera went straight to him. and i could just see tears running down his face. and right there, i lost it. tears started running down my face. >> he's getting emotional now remembering it. >> it is. but last night it was a different emotion. my heart went out to ryan. because we came here with the
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six events, hoping for six medals, and hoping for six golds. and it didn't turn out that way. and my heart went out to him, because as a coach, and in swimming, you know what your athletes, your athletes want it more than you do as a coach. and as a father, i knew how bad he had prepared for this. and how much he has given up for this. and so my heart went out to him. but, you know what? it's done and over with, and we're back at the bottom of the barrel. >> if you're going to lose, let's be honest, if you're going to lose to one swimmer in the history of swimming, it may as well be michael phelps, because he is probably the greatest swimmer that's ever been. and i think the rivalry has electrified london, britain, america, the world. >> yes. >> it's been a stunning rivalry. and the fact that you both emerge with a hatful of medals, but no one really dominated, is a great testament to the amazing skill of the pair of you, i think.
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>> oh, yeah. we've been training against each other for eight years now. and just the friendship and the rivalry we've created is definitely going down in history as one of the world's greatest rivalries in the sport of swimming. >> actually, in any sport. it's been exhilarating. i congratulate you, honestly. it's great to see your father, because i see what it means to you, too. my father would be the same. i've got three sons now, and i've had the moment when they bounce you around as teenagers. what is this famous grill you've got? you love this, don't you? i do, i love it. >> your mother hates it. your father? >> it's style. >> oh, my goodness. there you go. >> oh, yeah. that feels so good. it's the worst bling i've ever seen in my life. you can't wear this. this is awful. fantastic. why do you do this?
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what does it say about you when you put this in your mouth? >> you know, i guess it's part of my personality. letting everyone know that, you know, i'm not taking -- well, i am taking this seriously, but there's so much more to life than just swimming. and that's what i want people to know that. you know what, i'm having fun doing this. >> there's a brilliant parody out about you, are you aware of this? it's ryan lochte. i've made plans for us, instead of the usual, i don't know. it's not called being whipped, it's called having respect for your girl. are you amused or bemused by a guy pretending to be you tweeting to the world? >> i mean -- >> you couldn't give a damn, could you. let's move on to much more exciting things. it's your birthday. this is a special pierce morgan tonight cake. forget the watch, forget the
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medal, this is the big one. happy birthday. >> thank you. >> you're going to get emotional again, steve. >> i won't. >> seriously, congratulations. >> i appreciate it. >> ryan and steve lochte. veronica campbell brown, the fastest woman on earth. shannon tyler is having friends over for a "back to school" clothing party. what they don't know is they're on hidden camera, and all the clothes are actually from walmart. let's see what happens. they feel really soft. i like it. i feel like i could wear this with almost anything. we love the material. so far all the material is phenomenal. these clothes are all from walmart. what? wow! i've never bought kids' clothes at walmart. [ earl ] would you now? yes! walmart has great brands that make great looks. you'll love them, or your money back, guaranteed. see for yourself.
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track and field is about to take center stage in the olympics in london. you're about to see veronica campbell-brown. i spoke with her about being one of the fastest women on the planet. veronica, how are you? >> i'm doing good. thank you, how are you? >> very well. you're the woman who's going to break all american hearts by beating allison felix, aren't you? >> i don't know what the future holds. but i enjoy what i do. i enjoy track and field and i love the competition. and i'm looking forward to some very good competition with allison, and shelley and a lot of other female sprinters.
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>> now, i have been to jamaica, and i've actually stayed in a hotel in the very part of jamaica that you're from. it's actually where you say bolt comes from, also? >> yes, chalorny, there are a lot of great sprinters that come from there. >> is it something in the water? what is it? why are you all being created in this tiny little part of jamaica? >> there's a lot of factors. chilorny is known to be the country area, and when i was growing up, my parents, we did a lot of farming, we eat a lot of foods directly from the ground. we walk a lot. it's very hilly. and a lot of -- so i think it may be all the walking that we do, the food, the sun, just the work ethic. there's a lot of factors that contribute to it. >> i remember the yams, and being told that the yams were bang full of carbohydrates.
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and this was the big secret. are you a big yam eater? >> i do enjoy eating yam. and indeed, there's a lot of carbohydrates in it. and i grew up on it. my parents actually plant yam. and so we produce and reap our own yam. so i like it. it's very delicious. you should try it sometime if you haven't yet. >> no, i've had them. i had them when i was in jamaica. i loved them. you're one of nine brothers and sisters. i imagine it was very competitive when you were young, right? >> absolutely. yes. a lot of us. and so i learned to be competitive from a very young age. >> you used to run bare foot, right? >> absolutely. you're correct. i actually used to race boys on the street bare foot. i actually competed at the national stadium bare foot before. so that's true. >> did you beat the boys? >> i do.
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i used to race boys, and i used to beat them as well. >> what is the moment like for you? when you're crouching down, in olympic finals, especially the 200 meters of which you've been the gold medal winner two games running now, when you're getting down there and you're the favorite, the pressure's on, what are you feeling in that moment? >> i'm calm. i'm focused. i keep my eyes on the prize. and i try not to let the pressure overwhelm me. i try to focus on what i need to do in the race, to make sure that i run it very technical, and the way i am trained to do it. and so i try to focus on me, and my lane, and just what i need to do, and not so much about what's going on around me, or my competitors. >> does it make you laugh that you are able to hold off, the current sprint kings of the world? and you're able to hold off
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america, and all these american sprinters when it's 350 times as big as jamaica? >> jamaica and the u.s. have a very rich tradition in the sprint. and i enjoy competing. i enjoy the rivalry, so to speak, that is going on with jamaica and the u.s. and i think it brings a lot of excitement to the sport. and i'm sure the fans enjoy it, as much as the athletes do. >> are you looking forward to getting to london? lots of jamaicans in london. >> absolutely. i'm looking forward to london, and the jamaican fraternity up there. it's large. i know that jamaicans are very enthusiastic fans. and i know that they will come out and support us. and they're not -- and they're not only just for us, but they'll support -- they just love the sport. i'm looking forward to competing in front of all the enthusiastic
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jamaicans that will be at the games. >> do you ever race mr. bolt? do you ever quietly get it on when you're back in chalorny? >> no, no, i haven't. i never raced him. maybe we could set it up sometime. i would really like to see what i could do. >> do you reckon you could take him? >> of course. i'm not afraid. i know he could not catch me. >> i love bolt. he's one of my heroes. something about a guy who's that big, who can run that fast, and who then boasts about eating chicken nuggets, and who does that whole arrow thing, you know, afterwards. is he a real good guy in real life? >> he's a very talented athlete. he's a great person. he loves what he does. and he's very funny. and he's fun to be around. yes. >> you've also got a foundation. tell me about that, just before
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we finish. >> as you know, i was designated unesco ambassador for gender equality. and the foundation is one of the things that i started to help females in jamaica. the foundation so far has given four scholarships to girls in jamaica at the high school level. and we make sure that they complete their high school education. and i'm hoping very shortly to announce an increase in that number. >> great. good for you. that's a great cause. i wish you all the very best with that. and as i say, you'll break a lot of american hearts if you beat allison felix. so i'm british, though, so i'm a bit more impartial in this race. i can only wish the best woman victory. good luck. >> thank you so much. next, a singer with an olympic sized voice dancing with katherine jenkins. those surprising little things she does
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catherine jenkins is the british beauty who took america by storm with her fancy moves on "dancing with the stars." she's known as one of the most popular meso sopranos, having sold over 6 million albums. welcome back. >> i'm having a great time. are you? >> you've been seeing the swimming event? >> i did yesterday. >> did you see ryan lochte, the most eligible bachelor in the world? are you keen on him? >> he's gorgeous. >> how many times are you plan on watching the swimming this week? >> a lot. >> what are your other favorite sports? >> i love gymnastics. i'm going later in the week. i think generally the whole experience of being involved, and just being in london when all this is going on is special. >> are you a sporty girl? >> not necessarily playing sports. i enjoy watching sports.
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i run a little bit, but i would rather be a spectator. >> i was a bit annoyed with the welsh footballers not singing the national anthem. what did you think of that is this. >> the thing is, i think when you are preparing to could something like that, i think it should really be up to you. if that's part of your preparation, fine. if you don't, you don't. it would be nice to see everybody sing. that was part of getting in the mood. >> the england footballers the england team to sing when they played. i thought that was good. rudy never used to sing it. when i saw ryan sing that, i thought, come on, you're representing great britain here, and this is the british anthem whether you like it or not. >> i would love to see them sing it. >> you would sing it, wouldn't you? >> of course i would sing it. maybe i should teach them. >> maybe he just can't sing. >> maybe he doesn't know it. >> now, the "dancing with the stars" has been released. what do you think? >> i like it.
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it was an all-star cast. they've got a lot of previous people coming back. so yeah, i think it would be exciting. of course, i'll be watching, with a new-found understanding of how hard it was. >> i didn't know you could dance. >> neither did i, piers. i still don't think i can. >> the opening ceremony was spectacular. we were all proud to be british that night. what was your favorite part? >> the queen. it was fantastic. because i think that's the thing about the queen, she has a fantastic sense of humor. maybe not everybody knows that about her. i thought that was a moment to show that it was played well. and the mr. bean part -- >> that was the bit that was most tweeted about. >> it was so fun. i loved the -- obviously the emotional side of it. the going to the whole historical side of things. but the humor was really, really
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important. >> it was british humor. what i liked is probably loads of american are watching going, these brits are really as crazy as we thought they were. >> we love that. >> you are an ambassador to the olympics. what does that mean? >> it's a campaign for getting the country behind the team, as the host nation. we want to obviously get as many medals as we can. so it was just a campaign to show people how they can support the team, directly contact the team and send messages of support. i just feel very proud to be involved in some way, you know. >> you're britain's sweetheart now, aren't you? >> really? you're embarrassing me. >> where is britain's sweetheart going next? >> i'm off to south africa the end of the week, taiwan, japan, china, and back in the united states in december. >> exciting. >> it's the first time we'll be singing together properly in america. >> how are you coping with your
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new-found fame in america? >> lovely. people are just adorable. i was just singing in utah, two concerts there. people are very, very friendly. and they made me feel very welcome. i'm looking forward to going back. >> best of luck to you. if you sing the anthem i think ryan the come with you. love seeing you. >> love seeing you, too. more from the olympics in it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality.
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>> i'm trying my best, trying to get around a little bit. >> put in perspective for my american viewers, what it's like to be a brit in britain right now. bradley wiggins and his sideburns, everything else. what does it feel like to be a brit right now? >> it's great for me because i know they've all been listening to the actual anthem. and i've inspired them to win their medals. >> my tweet yesterday morning, i said will one of you please win a gold. since that moment it's been a goldfest. you've got an extraordinary path to stardom. like a scene out of "america's got talent." >> i was a comic working in the north of england. just singing along to the radio one day. this guy who was buying the car from the factory overheard me and said you've got a good talent. why don't you try out for a company in london. so i took the day off work, came down to london, sang and got taken on. >> amazing.
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do you still work on cars? >> i've polished a lot of cars in my life so i try to avoid it. >> we've got to turn to the olympics. when you look at the olympic spirit, what does it mean to you? >> for me personally, i'm proud to be british. i'm proud to be here in england, here in london at the time of history, really. when are we going to get the olympics again, you know. it's an incredible moment. we've had the jubilee. we're celebrating our athletes, the top world class athletes at the minute. obviously when i take part in the olympics the highest standards will obviously go down. >> now, you've got one little secret, i know my viewers will love, which is where your wife is from. >> my wife is from salt lake city, utah. >> you see. they're going to love that. >> so you married an american girl. >> i did. >> do you go there much? >> we had a house there a while back.
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we recently sold it and looking for a new place in america. i love the states. i'm coming over in october, i'm going to do a u.s. tour. the whole of october. and, yeah. i love america. since being a little kid, i've been on the coast and on the beach in fleetwood listening to the beach boys. >> you've been called the bad boy of opera. >> right. >> what do you do that's so bad? >> i sometimes let my frustration run away with me when i see opera houses or the opera establishment telling artists what they can and can't do, saying what is an opera singer, what classical music is and how it should be sacred and kept behind locked doors and things like that. and i don't agree with a lot of that philosophy and i in a way
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speak my mind and sometimes it puts me in a bad position. >> good for you. there's so much elitist pom pos people like you, you bring classical music to the masses. >> it's all what we're trying to do. it's make it popular, make classical music, take down the barrier. i don't see any difference between classical music and rock. i think the two genres go together. >> let's get to your real hero, it's bruce spring steen? >> it is. >> is your dream to do a duet with the boss? >> there are two american artists that i would love to work with. bruce springsteen, and elmo. >> when we come back you're going to sing for us.
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they are used as property of a family. the picture is very grim. my name is razia jan and i'm the founder of a girl's school in afghanistan. when we opened the school in 2008, 90% of them could not write their name. today a hundred % of them are educated. they can read, they can write. i lived in the u.s. for over 38 years. but i was really affected by 9/11.
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discipline. in the hour ahead you're going to meet parents, schoolteachers across the country. app cuesed of hitting kids in the name of god. we met parents who believe that the bible commands them to spank their children, even very young children, toddlers. spank them so hard that it hurts, that they cause physical pain. they call it spiritual spanking. lydia schatz was just 7 years old when she was beaten to death in the name of god. she allegedly mispronounced a word during a home schooling session. that was her so-called sin. lydia's parents pleaded guilty and were sent to a california prison. they claim they were following the teachings of a man named michael pearl, who is spreading his gospel through a book he wrote with his wife. it's called "to train up a child." the pearls wrote it as a blueprint for raising children the way the bible demands. but they say they're not to blame for what the schatz did to 7-year-old lydia. they explained it to our gary tuchman. >> i don't use the word hitting.
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>> what is the word is this. >> spanking. >> there's a difference? >> absolutely. a hand is hitting. a little switch is spanking. a wooden spoon or rubber spatula is spanking. >> why not just use your hand instead of all these materials. >> let me show you something. does that hurt? doesn't feel good, but look what it's doing to your whole body. see your hip? here's your hand on somebody, that's a karate chop. >> you say when you use this material, that it can't cause a permanent -- >> my children never had marks left on them. >> they're not shy about using props and humor. >> i'm going to spank the sinning man -- >> reporter: to show how they believe god wants parents to spank. >> rubbing the spaghetti all over your head, you shouldn't have done that at 7 years of age. okay? that hurts. and i'm 50. i
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