>> and remind me if i become a lawyer, i am not going up against you. >> you are great. outstand i outstanding. >> hardly, hardly. i'm terrified right now. joey jackson, good to see you always. and appreciate it. that is all for us, and "newsroom international" is "newsroom international" is starting right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to newsroom international, i'm suzanne malveaux where we take you around the world in 60 minutes. atop mountain in kenya where survivors are brought down. and we are going to talk about the healing powers of hip-hop. and back on the c controversial fight here which is heating up in the battle of the immigration law, where governor of arizona jan brewer is taking on immigration rights and pushing back hard that gives

children of illegal immigrants the chance to work in the united states for two years without having to worry about being deported. hours after that went into effect, governor brewer issued her own executive order telling the state agencies to deny benefits to applicants. >> we will issue a employment authorization card to those people who apply, but they will not be entitled to a driver's license, nor will they be entitled to any public benefits in response to the public overwhelmingly voting that no public benefits would be extended to illegal aliens in the state of arizona. >> miguel marquez is joining us outside of the offices advocating for immigration rights in los angeles. and miguel, first of all, i want to get a sense of the reaction, the kind of emotion that is coming from folks over brewer's order. let's just listen. >> what jan brewer did today is bullying. she is bullying the voiceless. she is bullying children that they cannot defend themselves,

and she is bullying immigrant youth that don't have a voice. >> so, miguel, obviously, a lot of pushback here, and a lot of people are very upset about what has happened here. the executive order, the president's order does not require for the states to actually provide these public benefits to these applicants, so what is at stake for some of the folks who applied yesterday? >> well -- yeah, it doesn't. what arizona has done and jan brewer has done is to deny them state benefits so things like driver's licenses, and perhaps money for college or welfare, food benefits and the like. but it is not clear that even that will hold up given the status of the president has conferred on these people or will confer on these people once they get through the process. i want to show you here in los angeles, this is the offices of chirla here with a huge line and since 3:00 this morning, people are lining up, and around the corner and 250 people in line at

this point, and these offices can handle 200 to 300 applicants a day, and they are going to have their work cut out for them. but arizona, it is a different case there. california appears to be granting driver's licenses, and you will be able to get benefits, and that these people will have a much higher level of interaction in society, and they won't face the deportations as they did previously, and what arizona is, and where arizona is cutting out is the state benefits that they may be able to get, but my guess is that this is going to end up in courts, and we haven't seen the last of this yet. you know, they are only starting to fill out the applications today. it will take months before they actu actually get those applications back and they get those status actually confirmed. so there is a lot of room here and a lot of play here before we see how this plays out. >> miguel, how is this plague

out in terms of the people of the obama administration and whether or not he is the one they would be supporting when it comes to the immigration policy? >> well, they're a little -- they are not entirely sure. they are excited about what is happening right now, and they belief they have a two-year reprieve to sort of prove themselves and prove that the program can work, and if they can show that the end of the world won't come by allowing the people here today and over the next several weeks to apply for this, that when cooler heads prevail perhaps after the november election that they can get some comprehensive reform and make something more permanent and resolve the immigration policy, because both sides of the debate basically say it does not work. suzanne. >> miguel, thank you. appreciate it. now, two countries that are staring each other down over how to handle the controversial case of julian assange. he is the founder of wikileaks, the website who has released thousands of classified documents and embarrassed people

including in the united states andb britain and he is held up n the ek wa dorn embassy in london, and he can't stick his head out, because british police will arrest him and send him to sweden where he is wanted on sex crime charges. so the ecuadorian government agreed to grant him asylum, but here is the rub, if he steps outside of the embassy, he is going to be arrested. but if he can get to ecuador, he will be free from the persecutors. i want to break this down for s us, because it is fascinating because in some ways he is trapped inside of this embassy, but there is a, there's a clearance here for him to actually get asylum, and how does he manage to actually get to ecuador if he can? >> well, this is the big question, and it is what is being disputed among the legal experts and diplomatic experts as to what happens next. basically what britain has said is that they believe it is their

obligation to extradite him to sweden per the agreement and as per the supreme court ruling here. they say that so long as he is in the ecuadorian embassy, they cannot arrest him, but however, they have pointed to a diplomatic act that does say that if that embassy is misused, then they can take away the diplomatic status, and that allows the police to enter and that is a process to take months to go through and legal wrangling and of course, contested by ecuador, so it seems unlikely it would happen, but ecuador has taken offense to that and feels it is threatening and as a result, they have granted him asylum, but he is stuck in the em bbassy without y way to get to ecuador where he might feel safer so for now, it means that there is a diplomatic standoff and he has protesters here waiting to see what happens next. they are clearly happy with the victory today, but still a long way to go. listen to what one professor told me.

>> the government has failed, and they need to protect those seek asylum, and so we have to grant diplomatic asylum to mr. assange. >> well, sorry, the fact is that he is here and won a political victory, but in fact, it does not change his situation, because he is stuck inside and unable to get out. and sweden says they want him for questioning. so in terms of what is happening on the ground, it changes very little. >> all right. atika, keep us posted. he never made it as a musician inside of the united states, but somehow he became bigger than elvis in south africa. well, now he is making a comeback. >> thanks for keeping me alive. >> he is on stage and the crowd is just going wild, and they are singing and crying. for their every financial need. and then, in one blinding blink of an eye,

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me over here. as you can see, there is no change in medicare for seniors. none under my plan. so for these down here, you asked me, which of these two do you think is better, going bankrupt or being solvent? well, obviously, being solvent, and what it is that the plan that i put forward is a plan very similar to medicare advantage. it gives all of the next generation retirees the option of having either standard medicare, a fee for service type government-run medicare or a private medicare plan. they get their choice. that is very much what we have in medicare advantage and almost identical and people will have a choice and greater come petitio between the government and the private plans, and i think that ultimately, you will see that the cost reduced as there is more competition. but the choice will be for individual individuals. i actually prefer consumer choice to government choice. >> and governor n the last

coupcou couple of days you have said that the president's campaign is hateful and angry and poll after poll, the american people say they show president obama, and i'm curious what you see that the american people don't see with this president? >> well, i think that the american people are also disturbed with a campaign that's been as devie ivisive as this campaign has been. as i go to the rallies and speak to people about the tone of the campaign, they have seen the same thing i am seeing and that is not drawing the distinctions between the issues, but rather personal attacks and the kind of divisiveness that is unbecoming the presidency and frankly, the comments of the vice president as well. these are comments that i think that a lot of people find troubling. >> governor -- governor, are you saying that the president does not understand america? >> in your campaign, you have said that president obama doesn't know how the create jobs in the private sector --

[ jet flying overhead ] >> well, i'm different than congressman ryan. we are a team. i have a different background than he has. he has a background that is very helpful to me if i become president, because he has spent 14 years working in washington, and working with democrats and working with members of the staff, and in the various administrations, and i mean, he understand understands the process and the mechanics of washington and the personalities in washington. that'll be very helpful to my administration. what i will bring to the team is a 25-year life experience in the private sector, understanding which policies will actually have the most positive impact on job creation. so we are a team. we bring in complementary skills at the same time we share common values and principles. >> governor, you are obviously bringing out a whiteboard and you recognize that it is a complicated issue to discuss medicare and do you worry it is distracting from the main message of the economy and worry

that you -- this is distracting from the big momentum push by picking representative ryan about your running mate, and is this what you want to talk about? >> we brought up the topic. i want people to understand what the president has done in welfare, and what the president has done in medicare. in both places, he has made dramatic changes which i think that the people of america will find illustrative of a different point of view than most people have. in welfare providing a removal of the work requirement in certain cases has been surprising to people. and likewise in medicare. the president has taken action in medicare which significantly impacts the kind of health care opportunities and benefits that will be provided for current seniors. this is going to be a big issue in places where there are a lot of seniors, because you look up there, and our plan, no change for the current seniors. you are watching mitt romney there making a stop in the airport at south carolina

setting up a whiteboard to discuss medicare and some of the other plans and obviously trying to push forward making some distinctions between himself and ryan's medicare reform plan as well as the president. we are going to take a quick break. we will be back more with international news. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities.

in aleppo shelling by syrian regime forces on residential areas as well as a hospital. it is now relentless as ben wedeman shows us, there is no place left to hide. there is a warning here that this is graphic material that you are going to see here, this fighting in syria. >> [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: 12-year-old mohammed screams out in fear and pain. sl shrapnel ripped through the right leg through the air raid in the hospital in aleppo's district. three passersby, including mohammed were attacked. the task of treating the wounded here is getting harder by the

day, the nurse tells me. half to equipment no longer works, he says. for almost an hour syrian jet firebombed and strafed the area twice striking the clearly marked hospital. out of view, a few rebels fired back fruitlessly at the plane. in an entrance way across the street from the hospital, the blood is wet where mohammed, wounded, took cover. nerves still on edge at the possibility that the plane will strike yet again. >> going, going going. >> reporter: mohammed's brother, abdul, fled the emergency ward in panic after the second attack at the hospital, and he is afraid to go back in.

the shelling and air raids have no rhyme nor reason, and the rounds smash into the crowded neighborhoods far from the front lines. mohammed was in a back room when his apartment was hit. he had sent his family away just a few day s before. thank god they weren't here, he say says, but what am i going to do? where am i going to live? his neighbors clear away the rubble with exhausted resignation. the random nature of the shelling and the air raids on the rebel-controlled parts of aleppo means that any building, anywhere in this part of the city could be hit at any time. in fact, this building was hit just 20 minutes ago. for many of the residents of aleppo, it is simply time to leave. some go by foot. most by car or pickup taking the bare minimum. the shelling, answers, this man,

when i asked why he and his family are leaving. we don't know where it is coming from. their destination is what they hope is a safer part of town. but here, no place is truly safe. ben wedeman, cnn, aleppo, syria. i want to bring in hala gorani of cnn international, and it is really just hard to watch when you see the level of pain that people are going through. >> and this is what the children will remember. this is the summer of 2012 for 7 and 8 and 9-year-olds who have to hide in basements and run away from emergency room wards because the hospitals are being bombed by the regime forces. >> why is that? why are they targeting the hospitals? >> well, let me give you the example of a small town 20 miles north of aleppo, and this is a town in rebel hands for three weeks. a french magazine article that was initially published by france's press described the town as returning to normal

somewhat as people were standing in linet ta bakery, and some sort of organization, and some sort of civic life returning to the small village in rebel hands. what happened yesterday, aerial bombardments and 20 to 25 homes flattened according to a reuters correspondent who visited the town. this is what the regime is saying, if you are sympathetic to the rebels and not even if you have bases there, but you are expressing sim ympathy withe rebel movement, we will send you a message and flatten your town and that is what happened with them according to the witnesses on the ground. >> we are seeing the video and examples of that time and time again and human rights watch putting out their own video saying that these were literally syrian regime jets coming through and attacking and 40 civilians were killed at least. and what happens now? i mean, the u.n., they have their hands tied and you have even a development on that as well. >> well, this is minutes ago, and the u.n. observer mission that was comprised of 300 u.n.

observers in syria whose job was to document and unarmed and to document what was going on and already the number cut in half and now the french ambassador to the united nations says that this mission will not be renew and the mandate will not be extended. >> so these guys are now in hotels, and they leave the country -- >> well, they have been working for several weeks anyway, and they could not leave because of security reasons they did not have access to the worst hot spots in syria, so now they go back, and the question is going to be, after kofi annan, will the united nations bother to name another envoy for the u.n. and the arab league to syria or will they consider that this is now at this point useless and won't amount to anything? that is what we have to look at. >> where is the help coming from for the rebels here, if you have the u.n. and the monitors pulling out, and you have the syrian government now bombarding the civilian, where do they get the assistance here to fight

ba back? >> these are reports coming to us that they are able to get arms, light arms right now through the border from turkey. turkey is allowing some of the arms according to reports to go through the border into northern syria. the question is going to be now, the spillover effect of what is happening. this tragic humanitarian disaster in syria. and the loss of civilian life, and civilian suffering is now spilling over into lebanon. we are seeing the kidnappings, and tit-for-tat kidnappings in lebanon and syria. you have syrians kidnapped in lebanon and people sim pa thet wick the opposition being kidnapped in syria, and as a result, saudi arabia and qatar and the eua is telling people to leave. so it does not stop at the border. it is going to impact the region. >> and hala going back to the hospitals there, the reason why people don't go to the hospitals

is because they are so afraid. how do they get treatment? how do the rebels and where do they go? >> they go to the field hospitals and you have volunteers and one individual i'm in touch with in aleppo who is trained as a laboratory technician has told me that he is doing what he can to smuggle in goods and medicine to some of the field hospitals, because the fear is that not only that you will be bombarded, but if you go to the government-run hospitals and you are sim pa thet wick yme opposition or a rebel, you will be arrested and tortured and you are going to be identified by the government in these hospitals. so there are field hospitals popping up everywhere in the rebel zones. >> hala, thank you. it is devastating to see what is taking place. >> very difficult to watch. you see the children who have lost their parents and themselves wounded and too afraid to even go to the hospital emergency ward. you saw the dread and the fear on that little boy's face in ben wedeman's reporting. it is heartbreak iing.

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all right. what in the world is more british than the famous black cab or the spice girls? i don't know. two icons met at the olympic closing ceremonies to add perfect uk flair to all things proudly british, but only one company makes the famous black cab and they are not celebrating today. there was some kind of mix-up here, and it caused the company to lose a staggerering amount of the value in week. we want the bring in richard quest to talk about it. richard, you are always talking about the financial bombshell that is taking place, but i think that this is real, right, in britain, and people are worried about uppetset about wh is taking place with the taxi cab company? >> here it is. it is the london cab. it is made by manganese bronze which is 20% owned by the

chinese. this is the archetype, but this is the famous one, the famous london black cab and the problem is like the meter when it really starts to roll up, but the problem is that there were counting and i.t. error and when that was finally put right, the company found itself about what translates to dollars about $6 million less money it had, but not a huge amount, but this is a relatively small cab and in a small company, and what it meant of course is that the share price lost one-third of the value. all of this on the same week that the spice girls, as you rightly point out, rode into the olympic stadium for the closing ceremonies to sh ceremonies. to show you what this cab is really like and the creation and the innovation, have a watch, because this is no ordinary vehicle. ♪

>> this is exactly how they arrive. they have cling film over the bodies not only as a protection, but also to encapsulate the parts insooide. >> we took the decision to bring these from shanghai, because we had a new set of tooling there which was a significant improvement on the tooling that we had in coventry, and economically, it made no sense to build the bodies in two locations. >> this is the green room area. the fellows here can see if there is any issues with the metal work, and it will highlight the hot spots or the deficiencies in the metal. >> u no, t >> now, the important thing about the manganese cab parts is that it has special space, and

especially accessible for those who are disabled and it has a load of other attributes that make it uniquely suited to being a cab. of course, the drivers who drive them have had to pass something known as the knowledge, which is why if you get into a cab in london, and ask for the most obscure address in the city, it is a fair bet, they'll be able to find it. >> and obviously, these guys have a lot of pride in this, in this cab company, and so we will see how it recovers, and richard, we have to leave it there. thank you very much. appreciate it. well, mount kenya may be one of the most beautiful places in east africa, but it is a dangerous place to be stranded. rescuers are scrambling to find survivors after three helicopterers crashed on the mountain. ronment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk,

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rescue crews in kenya are racing to find five people missing on a mountain when

peacekeepers were head ed ed to kenya and their helicopters crashed. the co-pilot of the helicopter was found dead and 21 people were rescued, but rescuers are hoping that the five missing may still be alive. chad, i have climbed mount kenya, and it is a tough terrain and the altitude at the top of the mountain is light. it is -- >> i remember that. >> and it is dangerous the breathe. there are rhinos on the mountain as well. >> did you see the wildlife when you were up there? >> yes, and we did see wildlife and the terrain changes as you goup the mo -- go up the mountain and you need a guide to get you through mount kenya. what could they be going through? >> well, it is an old strata form volcano, extinct, but for millions off ye years, and the

strata does change, but the report of the men they found alive were three miles from the wre wreckage, and they were trying to hike out. usually, you think, stay with the craft, ab it is easier for them to find a helicopter than to find you walking around a jungle somewhere, but look tatter rain, and just the cloud cover and the fog. that is what these men and women and the rescuers have been working with for the entire week. it has been just a mess there. four solid days of very heavy rain, and obviously a steep, steep mount kenya. so as they are trying to get to the men, although, one of the reports that i have been seeing online from capital news kenya, the rescue efforts have been called off because they have found the five bodies and they have not said alive or dead, but when they say bodies, it is usually not alive. and steep mountain peaks and it was high so you lose oxygen and temperatures below freezing on night, and being there many, many days in that cold will

obviously take the toll on anyone up there. it was very foggy and rainy when the three helicopters crashed. one did not crash. one helicopter made it to the destination to refuel, but three helicopters still up there on mount kenya. the one with that we believe that the men and the women are gone, and the soldiers are gone did burn as it made impact with the mountain. suzanne. >> thank you for the update, chad. >> he is a living legend and he says that it is hip-hop that saved his life. well, now he is using break dancing to help the children of uganda rise above poverty. there are a lot of warning lights

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hip-hop was all i had. that is what one young man in uganda and central africa sees it. a young man was orphaned as a young boy, and he says that he saw guys break dancing like richard crazy legs colon is inspiring other people in uganda, and red bull media documents his story. >> as i was growing up, i went through a lot losing both of my parents when i was about 7 or 8 years. it was really tough. the training that i had was art. i used to dance and draw, and growing up my role models were the rapper es and people like crazy legs and shrimp and run dmc and a lot more.

hip-hop is all i had. it played a very big role in my life, and that is why i want the share it with other people. >> reporter: in 2006, abram created the break dance project in uganda. the dream was to create a workshop teaching kids about beat box culture. since the three years of creating the break dance program, he works with any young person with a heart and desire to learn. >> break dance uganda is an organization that uses the hip-hop culture to empower youth and uplift the communities country-wide. people donate money, and we donate the skills. it has changed a lot of people's lives. a lot of people have become

confident because they have something that they possess, something that belongs to them. a lot of us grew up being called disadvantaged kids, and this is where the pride is, because this is what they own as people, and something that nobody else can take away from them. >> reporter: you again uganda h called one of the worst places on earth. disease and violence have plagued the country for decades. >> one of the men inspiring that young man richard "crazy legs" colon inspired that young man and he has toured the country with that group, and what should i call you? crazy legs or richard? what would you like? >> just call me legs, and that is good enough. >> legs. all right. i call you legs. >> yes. >> i love this documentary, and i love seeing how this is impacting young people in uganda, and how did you even come about getting involved in

something like that? >> well, the director was in uganda and he had the opportunity to do a project with red bull as well and the focus changed after meeting abrams and the guys from bpu from doing something about that, and he said, what is the list of the wish list heads that you would like to come down. and red bull says, hey, no money involved and they want you to come to uganda, and i said, okay, let's go. i had no reservations at all. >> i love what you were doing with the kids. you were there and teaching the folks how to dance. what did they make of the moves and the excitement and how did this young man become so em empowered just by dancing? >> well, they don't have much going on in the first place, and the biggest issue is getting to and from school if they can actually get there. and having supplies for schools

so when they don't have things that are allowing them to sustain themselves on an educational level, they gravitate towards these arts within the hip-hop, because there's a commonality within hip-hop throughout the world. it is a way to bridge the gap between so many people, and it brought me to them. i think that the fact that it make makes them feel like they can also still be recognized and we know that they are there, it gives them a great sense of empowerment. >> legs, one of the things that you did in the bronx and it is really amazing how this came about is that you were able to help people resolve conflicts through dance. that is something that looks like it is taking place in uganda as well. how does that happen? >> well, for me personally? >> yeah, i mean, you teach them to actually, you know, resolve their issues without being violent, without being pessimistic. >> yeah. well, the beauty about hip-hop,

although it had no ideology or agenda when it first started and the fact that you had to develop your talent in order to be effective with it, meant that you spent less time doing a lot of the nonsense in the streets, because you had to come out to the next jam tor por the party t the props from the thugs so they won't mug you. >> and we were watching, too, and i understand that you were in "flash dance" and what was this move that you did, this windmill backspin move that you were known for? >> yes, i developed theback windmill into a whip back spin and then what most people know as the windmill. both of them were by accident. i can't sit here and say i created it, but it is my mistake and i am cool with that. >> well, we love to watch you do this. why do you suppose that this transcends cultures and countries to bring this dance to uganda, and that the young people have embraced it as they

have? >> well, this dance is about youth. it is about energy. it is about excitement. it is about being competitive. it gives you an opportunity to, to have -- just honestly, it brings so many people together because we admire each other's skill. when you see someone take a move to another level that you have been trying to develop yourself and you see someone else has done it, and they are from the russia. you are just completely blown away and you say, i have to meet that person or who is this person? i want to get with him and practice with him and communicate with him, and how did he come up with that? it is a common interest. >> and legs, what else are you interest interested in? i understand you have a cooking project going on as well? >> a what? >> a cooking project, is that right? >> yeah, i do a show called lunch break show on crazy leg legs.com, and i have different artists and rap artists and deejays come in to cook for the first hour and how they survive on their own as a bachelor or

take care of the kids and simple meals and after they cook, they deejay or dance or they kick rhymes and like big daddy cain was on and sat down and cooked and started rhyming for the next ho hour. >> it sounds like a great project, and thank you for the t-shirt, and rock steady crew and i used to bust a move wac in my day and i used to try your mo move, because i love the break dancing. thank you. >> thank you, suzanne. around back here in the united states, he was a failed musician to work odd jobs to make ends meet, but in south africa, he was bigger that on the rolling stones when after four decades, he is back.

this doesn't seem like it adds up. how does a man who is more popular than the rolling stones or elvis or the beatles in south africa not know about it or have a dollar to show for it? well, poppy harlow says that

this is the most famous musician ta you have never heard of. >> we thought he was lik the inner city poet. >> he was a wandering spirit around the city. >> sieto rodriguez who is dylanesque tried his hand at rock in the 1970s. ♪ public gets irate and forgets the vote ♪ >> when we walked in and heard the songs he was singing and what he was writing, we had to record him. we had to make a deal for him, because he is great. this is it. >> reporter: but it wasn't. rodriguez' albums flopped in the u.s., but somehow the first album "cold fact" made it halfway around the world and became a massive hit. >> in south africa, he was in

the pantheam of young gods. >> reporter: at home in detroit, rodriguez had no idea. he'd given up the music career. that was four decades ago. you used to play right across the street there, right? >> well, i played a lot of places in detroit. >> reporter: unaware of the fame abroad and getting no royalties, rodriguez lived on little and raising his daughters on demolition work. he made failed bids for mayor, and city council and state rep. you call yourself a musical politico. >> i don't know how anybody cannot be not political. >> reporter: he was rediscovered by a south african journalist who found clues in the lyrics. they brought him to south africa and he played to thousands of adoring fans. >> thanks for keeping me alive. >> he is on stage and the crowd is just going wild, and they are

singing and they are crying. >> reporter: it brings you to tears to see something that happened to someone? >> yeah. >> it was epic. >> reporter: do you not think that your story is exceptional beyond belief? >> oh, it is pretty wild, the story. you know, i'm a lucky man to be so fortunate at this late date. >> this is a true cinderella story. >> reporter: fill emaker tells about it in his document "searching for the sugarman." >> a man who lives his whole life in detroit working manual labor while he is more famous than elvis presley in another part of the world. >> reporter: it is a great story, but a mystery, where are all of the royalties? >> i don't know. i think it is an important question, because the reason why rodriguez didn't know he was famous for 30 years is that he

didn't get the royalties. >> reporter: when asked if he feels ripped off? >> well, oh, no, not in that sense of it. and hate is too strong an emotion to waste on someone that you don't like. you know. >> reporter: do you want the fame and the fortune? >> well, fame is fleeting. ♪ hey baby what's your hurry >> reporter: now 70, rodriguez may h get his due. >> thank you, rodriguez! >> reporter: do you ever pinch yourself and ask, is this real? >> it is real? well, it is certainly a different life. certainly not what it was. ♪ what do i do >> wow, that is great. poppy harlow is live for us, and that is an amazing story, poppy. is he going to release any more albums or know what the future is? >> he said he would, suzanne, but he only released two albums and they were a massive hit and he made it halfway around the

world, and he said he wanted to release more albums, but he needed to get started, because he is 70 years old, and a story like this could not happen again. because it was the '70s and there was no internet and rodriguez had no phone living in detroit and lived in 26 homes and sortf a wanderer, and south afte afterka was isolated from the world because of apartheid, so if you think about it, a story like this won't happen again and a cinderella story, and good for him. we hope he gets money and fame coming his way. >> extraordinary story. thank you, poppy. we appreciate it. >> sure. and i was covering president bill clinton in aftrica in 1998 when this photo was taken so when i saw this young boy all grown up 14 years later, it is pretty amazing and i will tell you why. get that great taste anytime with kingsford match light charcoal.

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bill clinton ran into bill clinton a few days ago in central africa. it was a sweet reunion actually so i want you to take a look at the picture from 1998. this is president ll