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you calling big? >> who knew? i'm alison kosik in atlanta. cnn begins right now. tonight on cnn presents, twisted tale, a pizza delivery man robs a bank with a bomb around his neck. >> these suckers say you've got 55 minutes, man. what are you going to do? >> that's just the beginning of one of the most bizarre crimes ever. the twisted tale of the man known as "the pizza bomber." >> refund robbery. >> putting crack cocaine in candy machines. that easy.
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>> this isn't just a drug bust. it involves tax fraud and your refund is at risk. vanished. two florida men last seen with the same sheriff's deputy. >> do you have any hope your son is still alive? >> i don't believe terrence is alive. at this point, i have to find out what happened to him. >> the mystery surrounding two missing men, revealing investigations. fascinating characters. stories with impact. this is cnn presents with your host tonight, randi kaye and drew griffin. >> tonight, baffling stories of whodunit and a scam targeting your paycheck and mysterious case of two men in florida who simply vanished. >> we begin on a blistering summer day in erie, pennsylvania. by the time the sun had set, one of the most bizarre bank robberies in the fbi had been committed. a man described as the salt of the earth was dead and a mystery
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full of strange twists was about to unfold with this phone call to 911. >> 911. what's your emergency. >> yes. we've just been robbed. >> was anyone hurt? >> no. he just walked out the door. >> august 28, 2003, erie, pennsylvania. within minutes of robbing a bank, brian wells is surrounded by police, cross legged on the ground and handcuffed. he told police he was a pizza delivery man and he delivered a pizza. the group he delivered it to captured him, he told police, put this bomb on his neck and told him to rob a bank. he asks police to call his boss, then to save his life. 25 minutes tick by, then the device begins to beep. >> in an instant, the bank
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robber is dead. the death of brian wells in this parking lot that day turned out to be only the beginning of the most elaborate intricate and some say still unsolved bank robbery case the fbi has ever ha had. >> at the end of it all, our system worked. our law enforcement partners solved the puzzle, and we achieved convictions and long sentence sentences. >> the fbi, local police and u.s. attorney's office simply want this case to be closed, but is it? tonight, you decide. did the fbi catch all the suspects? did the fbi let one of them walk? did the fbi make a mistake putting blame on a pizza delivery man whose secrets blew up in a parking lot?
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it was a hot thursday afternoon. jane hyde was expecting to see her brother at a party that night but she had one errand to run. a quick shopping trip on erie's peach street. but there was trouble. police had blocked the road. cops and cars everywhere. she turned around and went home. it was only later that night, watching the 10:00 news she learned what that traffic was all about. >> my kids are sitting on the couch and then the story airs of a bank robbery and man came into the bank with a bomb on him. >> you are recognizing your brother? >> my brother sitting there with this bomb on him. i'm thinking, okay, the police have him, they'll find out who did this to him. then as it goes on, it's li like -- brian exploded, you
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know, the bomb went off. brian's dead. i'm like, i can't believe this. >> after the explosion, one of the first things the cops did was look inside his car and they found these meticulous notes that amounted to a bizarre scavenger hunt, notes given to brian wells, instructing him to follow a lengthy set of orders if he wanted to survive. >> laying out this puzzling highly complex scavenger hunt, directing him to go to specific places. >> rich shapiro is a journalist w who's written extensively about the robbery for wire magazine. >> they suggested at the end of this, if he completed it in the allotted time, which wasn't much, he would be able to save his life. >> have you asked yourself, why didn't my brother, brian get in that car and drive straight to the police station? >> no. i never asked that because brian was in survivor mode.
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i truly believe he was trying to save his life and others' lives. >> but the police had no idea what to think. was brian wells a victim? was he in on the robbery? what were those notes all about and who wrote them? why? there were no answers but plenty of agencies wanting to be involved in the biggest case erie had ever seen. >> we have formed a multi-agency task force comprised of the pennsylvania state police, the atf, erie police department, specifically their bomb squad, the united states attorney's office and the erie county district attorney's office. >> i wouldn't be surprised if some game warden from warren, p.a. was on the task force? jim fisher a former fbi agent and criminologist studied the case from the beginning. >> so you have 50 people running around randomly conducting leads
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with very little coordination. no one really seemed to be in charge. >> from the outset, he believes the fbi, the erie police, all the law enforcement agencies involved were on the wrong track. this was not, he says, a bank robbery. >> you believe brian wells was murdered. >> well, he was murdered. it was a first-degree murder. this was an intentional premeditated homicide. moreover, it was extremely cruel in the way the crime was execute executed. >> not just the crime, the actual bomb was a crude masterpiece of someone's twisted art. police would find intricate decoy cables, homemade lock. it all made into a bizarre puzzle wrapped around the neck of the victim. and whatever this was, a bank robbery, a violent murder, the case was about to take another
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bizarre almost unreal twist. >> there is a frozen body in a freezer in the garage. >> a second body, this one hidden in a freezer and a new suspect telling an even stranger tale. >> first of all, the freezer -- >> the body came in, i put it on -- >> just ahead, a man, a body and an ever expanding cast of suspects. ordinary rubs don't always work on my arthritis.
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he's explaining to a detective how he helped a former girlfriend, marjorie diehl-armstrong, dispose of a bod body. >> what came first, body or the freezer? >> the body came in, i put it on a cart. i'll show you where the cart is. the cart with the big wheels, not the cart with the small wheels. yes, that one there. >> but what's really going on here? what did that body in the freezer and bill rothstein's confession have to do with the collar bomb explosion that killed brian wells? in a word, everything. bill rothstein told police he was just doing marjorie a favor. he claimed marjorie had killed her abusive ex-boyfriend named jim rhoden. but the fbi's investigation tells another story. rhoden knew about the bank robbery plot and was about to go to police. rothstein made that mess go
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awa away. >> he came to the house and helped. he took the body out, clean everything up, cleaned the walls, replaced floorboards, replaced everything, painted, got rid of everything that might have blood on it. >> after rothstein turned her in to police for the murder of her ex-boyfriend, marjorie stunned investigators with another twist. she connected rothstein to erie's biggest bank robbery. >> i mean, to build the bomb and test the bomb and all the components, he had to have already been building it and designing it. in doing that, he also said, i need some money, so marjorie just gave him like $75,000 worth of money that she also kept at the house, so bill rothstein was left with two of the most important things to hold over marjorie diehl armstrong. number one, all her money and number two, a dead body that would make her lose her liberty the rest of her life. >> even though marjorie
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diehl-armstrong that been talking with police, it took the fbi nearly four more years before it could tie up all the loose ends. everybody, the fbi said, was involved with the robbery. bill rothstein, marjorie diehl-armstrong. even another suspect, a crack dealer named kenneth barnes. barnes claimed brian wells was in on the plot from the beginning and that he was duped. >> wells was essentially told he would be robbing the bank but the device being put around his neck would be fake so he would not be putting himself in harm's way. as it turns out he was double crossed. >> criminologist, jim fisher, believes it was rothstein who wanted to pull off the perfect i do bol -- diabolical crime that would baffle investigators. the scavenger hunt would send them to a dead-end. the confusing yet meticulously
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collar bomb, even the white t-shirt brian wells wore into the bank spray painted with the word "guess," to fisher, all hatched in the mind of a madman. >> the kind of motive we can understand, like a standard bank robbery, someone needs the money. then we have a category of crime involving motive a normal person can't really understand. >> you're describing bill rothstein. >> that would be bill rothstein in my mind. to me, he fits, to a t, a profile of someone who would commit such a bizarre and pathological crime. >> but now four years after the original crime, the government had to prove, in court, its theory was correct. and there were two big problems. rothstein, the alleged mastermind, died before even
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officially being linked to the crime. the other main suspect, marjorie diehl-armstrong, had told so many lies, she was showing evidence of mental problems and a personality disorder. >> the mental illness was a 30 year history. the personality disorders were a 30 year history. >> over many delays and many more years, the government finally obtained convictions on charges of bank robbery and murder. life, plus 30 years for marjorie diehl-armstrong. a lesser sentence for accomplice, kenneth barnes, because he testified on behalf of prosecutors. brian wells, who died with that bomb around his neck, well, the federal government said he, too, was in on the crime. >> when brian delivered the pizza, he was accosted at gunpoint by a group of strangers whom he did not know. they shot at him. when he tried to run away, they
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knocked him to the ground. >> the fbi version of that, as you know, is different. >> that's a lie. that's a lie. that's all fabrication. >> the fbi did agree to sit down with cnn, to explain their case and their prosecution, how it all went down. they just wanted to know the day we'd arrive here in erie and where the interview would take place. then fbi began asking us questions. who else would be interviewed for this report? and suddenly, the interview with the fbi was off. jim fisher says the fbi and the u.s. attorney took the easy way out and never really solved the case. >> bill rothstein died about a year after the crime and he died with, in my opinion, all the secrets, all the answers. to that extent, well, nobody literally dies laughing. he went to his grave knowing
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that he had outfoxed everyone. >> neither the u.s. attorney's office nor the fbi would comment to cnn about fisher's assertions. and yet there is someone who is alive, who kenneth barnes says was at rothstein's house the day of the robbery but was never charged in the crime. he is the convicted sex offender granted immunity in exchange for testimony he was never asked to give. next -- brian well's family is really wanting to know about you, sir. please. could this man hold the answers that would finally solve the case? and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement.
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in her search for justice, jean hyde said she has spent years trying to learn the truth from the one man she believes now holds the key to her brother's innocence. his name is floyd a. stockton, a convicted sex offender who authorities say was living with bill rothstein on the day of the bank robbery. he goes by the nickname, jay. >> jay stockton is a convicted rape i rapist, serial sexual battery of his wife, and he's out there. he's out there, people. >> he is the only one left alive and 16 enough to tell the truth, she believes, yet the federal government has allowed him to go fre free. >> they know that my brother is innocent, 100%. and they know that bill rothstein, jay stockton are the
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c co-conspira co-conspiraci co-conspirators in this this crime that killed brian. >> according to this fbi affidavit, investigators learned of stockton's knowledge to the crime when stockton talked about it in a monitored phone call from jail. stockton was released then given immunity to testify for the government in the pizza bomb case. investigators say they compared stockton's historiandwriting to handwriting on those scavenger notes in brian well's car. it was perfect match. >> authorities believe there are at least two people who wrote the notes and jay stockton is one of them. >> on camera is kent eugene barnes. >> there is also the testimony of this man, kenneth barnes. >> like i say, i'd never kill anybody. >> barnes pled guilty and is serving a 20 year sentence for his role in the case.
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but it's this fbi search warrant affidavit now obtained by cnn which raises even more questions about why jay stockton has been allowed to go free. according to the affidavit, barnes and others involved in the case say floyd stockton was deeply involved in the plot. barnes even telling the fbi on the day of the crime, it was stockton who went into the garage, got the collar bomb and handed it to rothstein. when we asked then u.s. attorney for western pennsylvania mary bette buchanan, why stockton never testified and was never charged, she initially told us stockton was sick, had suffered several strokes and was unable to travel. after our initial phone call, buchanan never talked to us again. at a news conference in erie, the current u.s. attorney, david hi hickton, wasn't forthcoming seats. what about mr. stockton, what
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can you tell us about his status and will he ever be president about this? >> we're not in a position to comment on mr. stockton. >> douglas, marriajorie armstros attorney says there's good reason the fbi wants to keep quiet wi quiet about this. >> do you think he got away with it? >> yes. convicted multi-time sex offender. the government felt he was the least involved person and so they gave him immunity. >> they shouldn't have gave him immunity. he didn't deserve immunity. he deserved -- he has the guilty one that killed my brother. he deserved to be brought to justice. >> stockton has been featured on the television show, "meamerica most wanted." private investigators tried to track him down but stockton has
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literally vanished. at least that is what he may have thought until the day we found him. these are pictures of stockton today, two hours north of seattle, down a side street in bellingham, washington, we found stockton where he told our investigator he's been living in this duplex for the past six years but was soon about to leave. a week later, we spotted him leaving the duplex in a pickup truck. we followed to an rv sales lot, where he was eyeing a large recreati recreational vehicle. it was perhaps the first time in years anyone had mentioned his involvement in the pizza bomb case. >> how you doing, mr. stockton, right? drew griffin. i'm with cnn. how you doing? it's taken a long time for me to find you. i wanted to ask you some questions. no, sir, brian well's family is really wanting to know about you, sir. please. >> as fast as he could, with his driver's side window lowered, jay stockton sped away, not
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saying a word. mr. stockton, this is drew griffin again with cnn. brian well's family is really trying to get to the truth of the matter about particularly their brother. you're the only one alive and 16 enough to tell the truth. that's what they're after. he has refused all of our phone calls, refused to respond to notes placed at his door. the assistant u.s. attorney who president the case insists to us jay stockton would tell us what the federal government has proven in court, that brian wells was involved with the bank robber robbery. >> no one could have sat through this criminal trial without understand being the degree of evidence linking mr. wells to these particular participants. >> reporter: in fact, the same affidavit that implicates
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stockton repeatedly implicates jane's brother saying brian wells knew the plot all along, was involved in the planning, was part of the band of criminal misfits trying to rob a bank. jean will never believe that. she believes her government is lying. >> they let an innocent man, my brother, die while in their custody, and they didn't even lift a finger to help him. this case is going to be looked at for years to come. and they don't want it known that they screwed up. brian never would have done this. >> jean is still claiming her brother's innocence and still says she won't rest until she can prove it. meantime, there's a new book about the case scheduled to be published later this year. one of its authors is a reporter for the local newspaper in erie, who's been following the case
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all these years. the other author, a now retired fbi agent, who was the lead investigator. coming up, it's being called the new crack cocaine of crime, thieves stealing your tax refund before you even know it. how do they do it. randi kaye's special investigation is next. energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy development comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing generations of cleaner-burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources
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imagine filing your income
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taxes only to be told someone else has already done the same thing and gotten your refund. >> it's a fraud so big that the irs doesn't even know how much money is getting into the hands of criminals, although law enforcement says it's well into the billions of dollars. >> every taxpayer is at risk and as our investigation reveals, the criminals have gotten incredibly brazen, in spite of an irs crackdown on refund fraud. it's gotten so out of hand police call this the crack cocaine of crime. >> now, for the first time in our investigation, you'll see the fraud as it unfolds in florida, where in some neighborhoods refund robbery has become a way of life. >> westbound on 163. >> this is a known gang member. let him get around us. >> we've just rolled up on what police say is evidence of one of the biggest and easiest frauds
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in merck to pu-- america to pul. a crime hidden in a piece of plastic, a debit card. >> it looks like he just purchased them. >> those debit cards are used to take advantage of fast refunds from the irs. the thieves are feeling those refunds by stealing people's identities, filing returns online with phony information and getting the irs to put the refund money on the debit cards. >> this is what they're buying. see green dot money cards, target. he went to target and spent 600 bucks. and he paid with a debit card. >> what did you get? $1,000 for christmas in gift cards? >> police say the man they pulled over already facing identity theft charges in another case is a known member of the infamous money avenue gang which specializes in this kind of fraud. not surprisingly, he's in no mood to talk. >> i'm curious what you do for
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work that you drive such a fancy car. >> i don't know about that. >> you don't know nothing about that? can you tell me if you know anything about identity theft happening around here? >> i don't know nothing about it. >> are you involved in any of the tax fraud? >> i don't know nothing about that. >> the detectives of the north miami beach florida police department will later charge him with buying these gift cards with stolen tax return money. police say here's the same guy on video at target using a debit card in someone else's name with a fraudulent tax refund on it. and police say he used that debit card to buy those gift cards that were on the front seat of the car. >> come on, man. >> he's arrested for marijuana possession but police later charge him with grand theft in connection with tax refund fraud. he pled guilty to the drug charge but not guilty to grand theft. >> how easy is it to do this.
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>> it's so easy like the federal government putting crack cocaine in gum machines. it's that easy. >> we already have one detective on the scene with an eyeball on the jewelry store. >> you guys show up, you will need help over there. >> a car just pulled up, the target we observed receiving 23 fraudulent u.s. treasury checks. >> police in north miami beach alone, with just 98 officers patrolling a city of 41,000, have seen over $100 million in tax refund fraud just in the last two years alone. it's big money. the criminals cash in those debit cards as quickly as possible, showing off their riches with expensive luxury cars, jaguar, porch, bmw, mercedes benz and souped up sports cars with expensive fancy rims. they flaunt fancy watch, diamond pendants worth $55,000 and other
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jewelry, this one inscribed with the words "money hungry." >> is this all about fast money, fast lifestyle? >> i think it is. the money doesn't mean anything to them because they can make so much of it. >> the fraudsters buy social security numbers from insiders at hospitals, doctors' offices and even car dealerships, any place you have to give your personal information. larry genomer, the interim police chief says as soon as the thieves buy a debit card, they're off and running. >> they register that card in the name of the victim. they already have the victim's name and date of birth and social security number for the return they will file. >> when the tax refund hits the debit card, the identity thieves call it the drop. the criminals then take the drop money to atm machines and grocery stores to get the money off the card as quickly as possible as these police videos of suspects later arrested show. while the debit cards were widely used for fraud. the criminals are so confident they won't get caught, at times
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they even have actual u.s. treasury checks sent to them. in this north miami beach neighborhood, where the money avenue gang operates, tax refund fraud has replaced drug dealing. >> so in the cars you pull over, do you find bricks of drugs? do you find bricks of debit cards? >> debit cards. the other thing we find we get lucky on sometimes is the actual ledgers of the names, socialings and date of births. >> that they've stolen? >> they've stolen. >> no one is safe. these two detectives among four in the unit who fight this very crime are themselves victims of tax refund fraud. >> detective denise love got a call just hours before our interview that someone had filed a tax return under her name. >> here we are living a legal life and working a job, you know, and these crooks are rolling around in $00,000 cars and staying in penthouses on miami beach and throwing money
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at strip clubs and everywhere else. >> with your money? >> with my money. >> detective jose got this illing message when he tried to file his return this year. someone else had already done it under his name. >> the thing that really hits us hard is it mostly affects our family. when you start messing with our family, it's something -- you take it to another level. you get upset. >> marin was counting on more than $9,000. love was expected $6,100. >> i know from dealing with victims it's going to be a long time before i see that money. >> coming up, what does the irs say to some officials who charge it's making it too easy for your money to wind up in the hands of criminals? >> why hasn't the irs stopped that? okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle --
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it's just another night on the streets of tampa, florida, where police say tax refund fraud is the new crack cocaine for criminals. >> that's over 2,000 in cash. >> this lady doesn't have a job. she's unemployed. >> inside her suv, it looks like she went on a shopping spree and police find this in her purse. someone else's social security number and an online tax filing
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website, a red flag for fraud. >> she got the information from somebody, their social, e-mail address, dollar amount they're going to put in for with the federal government they get a return on. >> anyone can learn the crime. this handwritten guide confiscated by police spells out how to get away with it, something this police inform ant and convicted felon we'll call cheryl knows all too well. she says she teaches friends how to do what's known on the street as "the drop," someone else's tax refund dropped on to a fraudster's debit card. >> they get together and we'll meet here and we all work together. some people i know gets up at 8:00 in the morning and don't finish until 8:00 at night. >> it's like a full time job. >> yes. >> do you think anybody involved in tax refund fraud thinks about the person whose identity they've stolen, whose irs refund
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they've taken? >> no. they try to get to the top. they want to be better than the next person. >> the goal, make money as fast as possible. >> this money, you have to flash it. you have to let others know, hey, i've got this. >> even if it means you will go to jail? >> yeah. >> the lure was apparently too much for cheryl. just days after our interview, she was arrested for tax refund fraud. >> the process is broken. >> in tampa alone where police estimate the fraud alone approachs a staggering half billion dollars in the past two years, police chief jane castor says the irs efforts to curtail it aren't working. >> i don't think i have ever seen this magnitude of fraud that is just wide open. it's wide open. there just doesn't seem to be much being done about it.
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>> she says suspects charged by local police know the penalties are light. unless there are federal charges, which in most cases don't happen or take a long time to file. for its part, the irs identified $6.5 billion in tax refund fraud related to identity theft last year. >> i'd like to hear the other side of that equation, too, an estimation how much got through. >> that's what we wanted to know. but after weeks of asking, the irs' deputy commissioner, beth tucker, still could not provide an estimate of the fraud that's gone undetected. >> just to be clear, you can tell us how much has been caught but the irs can't say how much of this fraudulent money has ended up in criminals' hands? >> we process 140 million tax returns at irs on a given year. the greatest majority of our taxpayers file a legitimate tax
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return. so do some of these fraudsters, perpetrators actually get a t tax-free refund illegally? unfortunately, yes. but for the actual size of the problem, we probably need to get back to you with a number. >> we're still waiting on that number. typical says tampa mayor, bob buckhorn, who is furious with the irs. >> has the irs disappointed you and your city? >> i don't know. i haven't seen them. as far as i'm concerned, they're missing in action. they have not been helpful. they have not been a player. they have not taken responsibility for their side of the enforcement. if anything, you know, we've been banging our heads against their door asking for help and getting nothing in response. the silence has been deafening. >> is the irs missing in action in tampa? what's your response? >> no. the irs is not. in fact, we have significantly increased the amount of resources we've devoted to
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identity theft, which is a heinous crime. >> just one week after our interview, the irs sent a team to meet with tampa and north miami beach police officials. law enforcement tells us there's a simple solution to curbing much of the fraud. don't allow the refunds to be put on debit cards? why hasn't the irs stopped that? >> not every taxpayer has a bank account. so the debit cards that are issued by a third party provider are a legitimate way for taxpayers to get their refund. >> the irs does not verify information entered on the return before issuing the refund. >> how much of this has to do with a speedy return? i know you want to get the return to the taxpayers as early as possible. is that part of the problem? >> the balancing act is something that we're constantly aware of. i mean, the american taxpayer that's worked hard all year long
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and is depending on that legisla legitimate refund, they have a right to get that refund from irs as quickly as possible. >> and the fraudsters, they know time is on their side. the faster the irs sends out the returns, the sooner they get some hard working taxpayer's cash. >> it's an underground epidemic. it has taken the place of street level drug dealing. >> are these your cards? >> it is a very very scary proposition. >> the treasury inspector general says it can take victims of fraud more than a year to resolve their cases. according to police, this problem is only getting bigger, as more criminals learn just how ease sy it is to pull off. police say they've been told even high school students are doing the fraudulent returns. up next, the mysterious disappearance of two men in florida last seen in the hands
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whatever role race may or may not play in the trayvon martin case, recent history in sanford, florida and elsewhere
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gives many in the african-american community reason to suspect and in some cases fear the police. on his blog, the film director, tyler perry, describes an intense traffic stop he had with police in atlanta and also calling attention to the disappearance in florida of two men whose last known encounter was with a now fired sheriff's deputy. my investigation into the missing men. marcia williams hasn't seen her son in more than eight years. >> do you have any hope your son is still alive? >> i don't believe terrence is alive. at this point, i have to find out what happened to him. >> what happened to terrence williams is anybody's guess. he was last seen outside this naples, florida cemetery on january 11th, 2004, with this man, sheriff's deputy, steve kau kins. >> investigators say kaukins story about meeting terrence williams at the cemetery doesn't add up.
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at one point, kaukins said he pulled his car over because it was having problems. when he called his friend in dispatch, he reported the car had been abandoned. he never let on the had any contact with the driver, terrence williams. >> i got a homey cadillac on the side of the road here signal 11, signal 52, nobody around. >> maybe he's out there in the cement. he'll come back and his car will be gone. >> but if the driver was not around, how then was deputy kaukins able to run a background check using terrence's name and birth date. >> last name? >> williams. common spelling. date of birth? >> 4-1-75. black male. >> yet four days later, kaukins claims to remember nothing of the car or driver. listen to what he says when a sheriff's dispatcher calls him at home. >> you towed a car from vanderbilt and 111th monday, a
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cadillac. do you remember it? >> no. >> do you remember, you said it was near the cemetery. >> cemetery. >> the people at the cemetery are saying you put somebody in the back of your vehicle and arrested them. i don't show you arresting anybody. >> i never arrested nobody. >> isn't that amazing. he's a seasoned veteran and he couldn't remember four days later. >> you don't buy that? >> no, it's not true. it's not true at all. >> eight days after terrence vanished, deputy calkins was order dollars to write a report. he said he drove the father of four to this nearby circle k where he says he thought terrence worked it was that version that concerned investigators because months earlier they heard the same story about another missing man. 24-year-old felipe santos
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vanished october 14th 2003 after deputy caulkins responded to the scene of a minor accident involving santos and arrested him and put him in the back of his car. his brother asked we hide his face out of fear for his own safety. >> did deputy calkins tell us where he was taking your brother? >> the officer never told us anything. later we went to the jail and my brother wasn't there. when he was questions and felipe santos, an undocumented worker he said he dropped him off at a circle k. sheriff's deputy o'neill. >> we had nobody corroborating they saw williams or santos at the circle k. that's strictly caulkins testimony. i think we can add up where we can put his testimony. >> neither of nen were seen on circle k's security cameras.
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there's more. about a month after terrence williams disappeared, severe caulkins gave a sworn statement during investigation. he told investigators he called this circle k where he dropped terrence off and said he made that call from his work issued next telephone. when investigators say they'd pulled his phone records and told him there was no record of a call to this circle k from his cell phone, he brushed it off saying simply, quote i don't know what to tell you. >> you've been doing this for a long time. you know when something doesn't smell right. do you think that deputy caulkins had anything to do with disappearance and possible death of these two men? >> he's absolutely in the middle of the investigation and everything i turn to brings me right back to steve caulkins. >> months after they went missing, the deputy was fired for lying in connection with the investigation for terrence williams. caulkins hasn't been charged with a crime because no criminal
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evidence was ever found linking caulkins to the disappearances. in the case of terrence williams, the deputy's car was searched and described as immaculate. caulkins home was never searched because according to investigatorers, they didn't have the evidence needed for a search warrant. we wanted to ask him some questions but couldn't get past this woman. hello. hi. sorry to bother you. i'm randi kaye with cnn. >> no. you can get the camera out of our property, please. >> he's not on your property. >> bye. >> he's -- >> bye. >> in 2006, caulkins did tell a local paper he didn't do anything wrong blaming the coincidences of the missing men on very bad luck. he suggested maybe they ran way. >> if terrence was alive, terrence would have had somebody to contact his

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