also. so he was dedicated to what he was doing and otherwise remembering, i think what i said earlier here, that he was willing to dare greatly for his country and he was proud to do that. and yet remained the same humble person he's always been. >> senator john glenn, thank you so much for your memories of neil armstrong at the age of 82. we'll have much more on the life and legacy of neil armstrong and other news as we continue to watch that tropical storm as well. my colleague don lemon will be back in 30 minutes at the top of the hour. right now time for sanjay gupta m.d. hello and thank you for being with us. i'm going to tell you what you can learn from rosieo donnell's heart attack. also, the latest and incredible out of donna nyad. she fell short and will tell the inside story of what really happened. but first politics and fertility treatment under the

microscope. if you watched tv this week, every media outlet has been covering attempts to end abortion. but did you also know that some of those efforts may have major consequences for people who are looking into inveto fertilization? vice presidential candidate paul ryan sponsored a bill called h.r. 212, the sanctity of human life act. its main objective is to provide human life deemed to begin with fertilization. some fertility doctors say this could create human complications in the way they carry out ivf, in-vetro fertilization. they could end up charged with homicide if an embryo they create subsequently dies. we invited representative ryan and governor romney on the program to talk about this, they declined. they didn't want to talk about whether this is a fair concern. also i should point out governor romney has a personal stake in this issue, he has grand dstz children that were born through

ivf and said he supported ivf in the past. back in january he stated that he believes life begins at conception. >> i was also a governor in a state where being pro-life was not easy. and i battled hard. what came to my desk was a piece of legislation that said we're going to redefine when life begins. in our state we said life began at conception. the legislature wanted to say that to say, no, we are going to do it an implementation. i vetoed that. >> we invited on the gop doctor's caucus, the congressional pro-life caucus and the 53 other sponsors of the sanctity of human life act. for several days we tried to reach out, they all either said no thanks, no reply, or it seems no one wants to talk on camera providing a statement. joining us is one of the doctors concerned about this that lives in the real world, dr. daniel shapiro. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> i was telling you beforehand

every time this topic has come up in our unit here at cnn it leads to big discussions. people have a lot to say about this. the bill, and i've read it and you have read it as well, it does not specifically mention in-vetro fertilization or doesn't outlaw in-vetro fertilization, so what is your concern specifically? >> the biggest problem is these are under a category that we call personhood bills that basically establish human life begins at conception. the problem with all of that is that in a typical in-vetro cycle there's more than one embryo created. and if you're being safe and cautious, you only put one embryo, at most two back into a patient at a time. so what happens to all the leftover embryos? many of them are frozen and many of them are never used. so these bills basically would make us the guardians potentially of all the embryos and would restrict how they can be handled. that some of the restrictions

would also make the ivf very inefficient for the patients, because frankly the overwhelming majority of embryos created in our labs are not capable of actually making a whole baby. >> so from your perspective, let's say there was an initiative and this passed and was part of law in this country, what could happen to you if something happened to one of the embryos, they didn't survive? >> well, at one extreme we could be accused of homicide if you're negligent homicide because we are not taking care of an embryo. at the more reasonable level, i think we could be considered negligent, in general. but patients, we know from experience when these kinds of bills were introduced here in georgia, patients actually rose up in mass numbers to fight it because they understood, even if they were people of faith, they understood that this interfered with their ability to family build. and that ivf is not an efficient

process and that part of the process is that certain embryos will not be used and will likely be discarded. >> we obviously have a big election coming up. this is part of the platform we're talking about. >> well, these bills have been introduced in, oh, 30-something states and have typically failed. in mississippi, just a few months ago, they liked this one as a referendum and it looked like it was going to pass. but when the medical community came in to educate a very conservative population, the people of mississippi overwhelmingly rejected a personhood bill. they basically said this is bad for our health care. we don't want to do this. >> so this is the ivf over your right shoulder, you don't foresee that happening any time soon? >> i don't think that's going to happen, but i'm a little bit dismayed that the folks who are trying to find a wedge against roe v. wade are using this particular approach, because it walks right over the backs of about one in eight american couples. that's how many people are infertile in this country.

so we are not talking about a small number of people. we are talking about hundreds of thousands of people who seek care in the united states for fertility concerns. and these bills interfere with their ability to get good care. >> well, i appreciate you educating us on this. obviously, as i said, it's a talker. a lot of people curious about this. dr. shapiro, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> up next, the number one killer of women is coming up. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste.

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go help your sister. we are going in three minutes. oh, my god, what am i doing? i forgot to cut off the crust. walla! shoes on, potty if you need it. and get your sister. okay, here. nobody move! i'm getting a dust pan. >> mom! >> i think you're having a heart attack. >> honey, do i look like the type of person who has a heart attack? >> that was a clip from the very funny short film called just a little heart attack starring and directed by elizabeth banks, produced for the american heart association. it's part of the go red for women campaign. i have to tell you, it struck a chord because a lot of people paying attention to this issue in part because rosie o donnell suffered a nearly fatal heart attack earlier this month. she posted a poem on her blog to let people know about it. it reads, in part, my lad, which

means the left anterior desce descending artery on the heart, was 99% blocked. they call this type of heart attack the widow maker. i am lucky to be here. know the symptoms, ladies, and listen to the one inside. the one we so easily ignore. call 911. you wouldn't believe how many people don't call 911. even rosie didn't and she didn't visit the emergency room, really visit her cardiologist until the next day. lucky for her she's okay. but as you might guess, not all women are so lucky. we beat the drum on this issue a lot. joining me to talk about this is suzanne, a doctor at the hospital in new york city. beating the drum on this issue for a long time as well, thank you for joining us. dr. steinbaum. rosie missed the signs and everyone generally knows the symptoms for a heart attack in men, but with women it can be different. how do you educate your patients about this? >> well, what i say is it's not

necessarily that typical hollywood heart attack of a man cleching his chest. in fact, in women the signs are off more subtle. there could be shortness of breath, as in ya nausea, vomiting, back pain. in fact, rosie was not sure it was her heart because it was not in that location. if you're doing your daily activities and suddenly it becomes more difficult, suddenly you feel like you just can't do the same things, whether it's due to shortness of breath or even flu-like symptoms, then you must consider that it might be your heart. >> so that's an important point. if you have some of these new symptoms nrosie's case, she felt clammy, she was as inuated, but if it comes on suddenly, it seems to be a red flag. how do you know when it's serious enough to call 911? because a lot of people think that's a big step to simply make

that phone call. >> i think there is such a thing as women's intuition. really, when i talk to my patients and like rosie said, she had a feeling it was her heart. if you have a sense that you cannot breathe, that the pain is getting worse, i would rather you call and be wrong than not call and have a heart attack. >> let me show you, actually, we'll show you how that exactly played now the short film. take a look. >> okay. 911. hi, sorry to bother you. i think i might be having a little heart attack. nothing really, just some nausea, tightening of the jaw, dizziness, shortness of breathe, achiness, a terrible pressure in my chest. oh, really? you can be here in how long?

two minutes? can you make it ten? >> she literally started that with, sorry to bother you as she's calling 911. almost the fear of embarrassment, but does that ring true? the american heart association says only half of women say they would call 911 if they experienced heart attack symptoms, but go on to say more than three quarters would call 911 if it was somebody else having a heart attack. what -- why is that? >> it's amazing. as women we tend to put ourselves last. we don't want to put anyone out, we don't want to be wrong. we are afraid we'll make people take care of us and it actually won't be our heart. in fact, in one study when women were asked, why wouldn't you call 911, they said they would do the dishes in the sink first. there are so many reasons why a woman might not call, but women tend to put themselves last. and like you say, they will do it for someone else before they would do it for themselves. >> i know. and, it's amazing because women

typically are the health care drivers in families, but sometimes they forget about it for themselves. if you've called 911, what should you do next? are there things you can be doing at home? >> what every woman should know about, take two aspirin, pop them into your mouth and chew them. call 911. and if you're wrong, it doesn't matter because you might just save yourself. you might save your life. >> again, very important advice. you take that aspirin to make your blood a little thinner, you chew it so it absorbs more quickly, hopefully people are listening and this will make a difference. dr. steinbaum, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. diane nyad had her fourth

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♪ every once in a while you meet something that fundamentally paints the world around you. for me, diana nyad is one of these people. at 60 years old she decided to take on a challenge that seemed nearly impossible for someone half her age. but she didn't complete the swim, her fourth attempt from cuba to key west, but i can't help but think the journey is far more important than the destination. 103 miles lay between havana, cuba, and key west, florida. the sea is rough here, the currents are swift. and this stretch of ocean is

home to nearly a dozen species of sharks and jellyfish. simply boating across these waters is tough. swimming in it nearly impossible. but one woman, marathon swimmer diana nyad, set her sights on that goal over 30 years ago. in 1978 she swam 41 miles from cuba. a year later she made it 89 miles from the bahamas to florida. a world record. and then she quit swimming. >> i thought to myself, i will never swim another stroke in my life. >> that is until she turned 60. >> i was driving in my car last year telling myself, you better get with these life lessons and better just seize the day. i was looking at the cars in the rear-view mirror and caught a sought of my eyes for a second and thought, but wait a second! maybe i could go back. >> she got back in the water slowly at first, and then put herself through the first big test. >> i did a 6 1/2-hour swim.

that's the day i knew this summer i'm swimming from cuba to florida. >> she trained for hundreds of hours getting ready to take on what she called the extreme dream. but delayed cuban visas and bad weather forced her to put that dream on hold. 2011 she got her shot. on august 7 a ceremonial bugle performance and she was off. but the rest didn't go as planned. and it controlled her. an asthma attack. i'm just dead, i'm dead. >> she got out of the water after 29 hours. >> just a month later a very different scene. on september 24th she dove back in for attempt number three. this time it was stings from box jellyfish. they took her out after more than a day of swimming. >> never, ever in my life have i

had pain like that. >> but diana could not let the dream go. 2012 she jumped in again at the marina in cuba, attempt number four. the first several hours went smooth and then jellyfish stings again. but this time she was armed with a special suit, thunderstorms knocked her off course, but she got back on. after almost 42 hours of swimming and 63 hours after leaving havana, another storm so dangerous the lightning could have killed her. by sunrise on day four, diana came out of the water for the last time. i called diana as she rested on the boat heading back to key west. hey, it's sanjay. >> sanjay, how are you, good brother? >> i'm doing all right. how are you doing? >> physically, i was ready, i did every possible aspect, it is just a huge part of mother nature right here. there are so many variables that, i don't know, sanjay, i

thought i would make it across one day, but i think it's going to be a certain series of circumstances to make it more than three days. >> this time it seems the extreme dream is over for good. surrounded by her team of divers and handlers, diana did a ceremonial walk up onto the florida shores, a picturesque end to a remarkable journey. it looks like this really was her last shot. but as we have seen, you never know what the future may hold, especially when it comes to diana nyad. i'm really glad to call her a friend. if you're watching, diana, thanks so much. coming up, chasing life, one thing you want to make sure you stick in your suitcase whenever you travel. [ annie ] this is the story of a girl named annie

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well, today we have a made in america success story. as a child ralph brawn was told he wouldn't live past his teen years, but he defied the odds as you might guess and the company in his hometown now has clients all over the world. each day you'll find ralph braun at the company he founded, the braun corporation. he's been in business 40 years with clients around the globe, but his success seemed unlikely when he was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy in 1996. >> hi parents were told i probably wouldn't live past my teens. >> braun grew up in indiana. he says back then there were no sidewalks. people like braun were not

welcome. >> the same old people were looked at in the '40s and early '50s as most the time of sitting in a closet somewhere. >> his way of becoming successful was born out of necessity. by that time braun was unable to walk but he needed to get to and from work, so he tapped his love of engineering, cobbled together random parts and created scooter so he could get on the road. the year was 1963. >> the three-wheel scooters that you see today in the supermarkets we supermarkets, there wasn't such a thing. so i built the first one a four-wheeler, which i called frankenstein. and then i built the second one, which was a three-wheeler, in which was the bride of. >> today his company manufacturers several thousand wheelchair vehicles and lifts every year. braun is improving the lives of

people just like him all over the world. chases life today, keeping you safe away from home. you know, i traveled quite a bit and sometimes i go to countries where i don't know how the speak the language. as a doctor, i like to be prepared and want to offer that to you as well. so i found this little guide book that caught my eye called the visual language translator made by a company called quick point. i want to show you how it works. you open it up and literally point to what's bothering you. we have an example over here. take a look. let's say you go to the hospital and are trying to explain that you had a peanut allergy. over here is the allergy section. this is what somebody might look like suffering from allergies and you can point specifically to peanuts. that's a very hard thing to convey without a good book like this. let me give you another example as well. let's say you have been somewhere you you've had a bite. we'll show how a bite looks like this and point to specifically what caused the bite. maybe a spider bite.