thank you, suzanne. i'm don lemon in for brooke baldwin. a huge hour of news for you. we begin with a breaking story out of new jersey. it's unfolding rig$t now. a plane has just landed in newark after a passenger claimed to have poisoned everyone here's what we know right now. the united flight traveling from hong kong, newark was its original destination. we're told the passenger became% disruptive and the feds aren't sure whether the threat is real. but they're taking it seriously, of course. updates for you as we get them throughout the hours here on cnn. also happening right now, the fbi is digging today for the body of jimmy hoffa, again. union boss, convict, organized crime figure, hoffa vanished on a hot summer night in detroit 1975. $asn't been seen since. just a short time ago, a lawyer with ties to the case says this is it. for real. >> there used to be a barn in

the field. buried unde) the barn on a cement slab, that's where our understanding is that the body should be. >> all right. so he says. but keep in mind that tips of a dubious nature from tipsters of shaky repute have triggered excavations for hoffa's missing body as far as new jersey. as far away as new jersey. today's operation is back in suburban detroit, oakland township to be specific. some 20 miles from the diner where hoffa was last seen alive. authority dan muldaya is going to help walk us through all this. he chronicled numerous crime investigations involving subjects ranging from bobby kennedy o.j. simpson and jimmy hoffa himself. >> tony zerali was boss of the detroit mafia from 1971 to 1974 when we went to jail. his elderly father became boss of the detroit mafia from 1974

to 1977. he was in place when jimmv hoffa disappeared in 1975. as the boss of the detroit mafia he would have had to check off on the hit. when joe zereli died in 1977 his new underboss, a guy named jack toko became the boss. when tony zereli was released from prison in 1979 he became the underboss of jack toko. these two guys who were cousins are not knuckle dragger. these are guys who are college educated businessmen. tony zereli shut off his mouth about a hidden ownership the detroit mafia had in a las vegas casino. it was picked up on a wiretap by the fbi. they prosecuted 16 top guys in the detroit mafia. a whole bunch of people went to jail. everyone blamed tony zereli for it. when tony zereli got out of jail d8during 2008-2009 he was perso n nongrata. he was broke. had no place to go.

we went to a reporter at nbc and he said i want to show you where jimmy hoffa's body is. he took the reporter to this field in oakland township. of course, everyone started looking at the property records and the property's in the name of jack toko. the question is, is does tony zereli really know somqáhing or is he just trying to get even with jack toko for making him persona non grata. >> that's a really good question. the thing is, is tony zereli, is he legit? his lawyer says he is. d8>> the difference between thi and the last digging is credibility. this is a man that would be in the know. this is not some random guy who said i think he's buried there. this was a person intimately involved with some of the players who would be well informed as to where the body would be placed. >> what prompted him to come forward now? >> what prompted him to come forward? it's just something he wanted to get done with that he's dealt with for a long time. and he wanted to share where it

was. >> okay. dan moldea, back to you. given all áhe tips investigators get, how do they go really about deciding this one or that one might be worth pursuing? it was a very good book that was done in 2004 by a guy named charlie brandt who did a book about frank sharon. frank sharon had a whole bunch of credibility problems. but he gave up pretty interesting scenario as to what happened. in 2006 there was another dig in oakland township where -- i'm sorry. in milford township in wicksom, michigan, at a farm once owned by a guy named rowland mcfaster. the source was credible. his name was don wells. the cast of characters was right. this one is also a very interesting situation. listen, when the fbi takes these things seriously i take these things seriously. i've been involved in this 38

years. we would like to see this thing end once and for all. like to see this case solved. i say go, fbi. let's solve this case. >> i'm sure you would like to see it solved because what i understand from your booking folks, you're a very busy man today. everyone wants to talk to dan moldea. >> i would like to be in detroit. being here at cnn i appreciate being asked. >> we'll see you throughout the day on cnn, my friend. thank you very much. we appreciate it. dan moldea. now to the man who broke up one he nation's most secrei agencies. opening more even more about himself. this time edward snowden took your questions. snowden did a live chat through the website of britain's "guardian" newspaper. as he is opening up you have to wonder what authorities are doing to pin him down. u.s. plans to file charges against snowden for leaking the classified documents that expose snooping by the national security agency. it acknowledged it tracks phone calls and internet communications en masse. snowden said e-mail surveillance

could be thwarpted. encryption works. properly implemented, strong crypto systems are one of the few things you can rely on. ert point security is so terrifically weak. snowden also says he is not a spy for the chinese saying he had no contact with china's government. he's had support in one of its cities, hong kong, where he went into hiding. this weekend demonstrators marched for him. snowden said this on "the guardian's" website. h is a predictable smear. ask yourself, if i were a chinese spy why wouldn't i have flown directly into beijing? i could be living in a palace (etting a phoenix by now. cnn's nic robertson is in hong kong with more on snowden's live chat. that was an odd quote, nic. snowden got into a lot of specifics on what he could access as a contract worker for the nsa, didn't he? >> you know, he did. there were about 2,000 questions

online waiting for him when he began this chat which lasted about an hour and 45 minutes. perhaps he didn't want to stay d8location, his identity. he did talk about, you know, what it is that as an nsa operative you could get access to. if you go to the e-mail address, you would be able to get not just the content, but the ip address. a lot of specifics on that. and this is exactly how he put it. i'll read from precisely what he said. he said even in the event of a warranted intercept, it is important to understand the intelligence community doesn't always deal with w$at you would consider a "real" warrant like a police department would have to do with a warrant. it's more templated form that they would just send out to a reliable judge with a rubber stamp. that is to say there are abuses ystem. he was also asked the question, dick cheney has called you a traitor. and he responded in a pretty

firesome way to that. this is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrociáy warmup on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed -- and maimed nearly 32,000 americans as well as leaving 100,000 iraqis dead. being called a traitor by dick cheney, he says, is the highest honor you can give to an american. so he was pretty fiery in some of this. he said that he was grateful and appreciative of people being interested. but he was concerned because he said some of the mainstream media now were more interested in what his girlfriend looks like than the real debates and issues that should be being talked about here, don. that's what he said. >> nic robertson in hong kong, nic, thank you for your reporting. appreciate that. edward snowden's father also going public. lonnie snowden gave an interview to fox news urging his son to stop the leaks. >> we want you to come home. we want you to be safe. we want you to be happy.

but i know you're your own man and you're going to do what you feel you have to do. i believe firmly that you are a man of principle. i believe in your character. i don't know what you've seen, but i just ask that you measure what you're going to do and not release any more information. >> hmm. lonnie snowden also said the reason his son dropped out of high school is that edward missed much of his last year due to an illness. and that he received his high school equivalency before the time he would have graduated. overseas, he is a statesman. but here at home, the president's standing has just taken a nose dive. i want you to take a look at this. this is barack obama's job approval rating. . it went all the way down to 45% in a cnn sponsored poll. that's an eight-point plunge in just one month.

let's talk about that. we're going to talk about it in a moment. first, though, there's business to attend to at the g-8 summit in northern ireland. chief white house correspondent jessica yellin, as you ca' see, is there. beautiful backdrop, jessica. what's happe'ing right now? an important meeting between the president and russia's vladimir putin. they're talking about syria. from the sounds of it, jess, they don't see eye to eye on this. >> reporter: that is an understatement, don. you're right. the u.s. and russia, first of all, just sat down for that meeting. president jt(sp and vladimir putin expected to meet for 60 to 90 minutes. they are on opposite size of t$is issue, and both sides are pretty dug in. russia is supporting the regime of bashar al assad. the president of russip has described some rebels as savages and accused them of eating their opponents' organs. he's challenged the u.s. for quietly arming some of those rebels. the meeting now between putin and obama is expected to be fraught with tension because of comments like those and don't

expect much progress. the general sense is, russia is unlikely to withdraw its backing from assad. while assad's forces are succeeding. the most we could hope for is a recommitment to getting all sides to the table for some kind of talks for a political resolution, don. >> so, jess, let's get back áo the poll that i read just before i introduced you there in ireland. the president's numbers are down across the board. but one that jumps out is the concerning -- concerns americans' trust in the president. the president always polled very high in trust no matter what was happening in the country. people trusted him. but not so much anymore. >> reporter: it is a surprising drop to me, too. it's considered long one of his strong suits that he's trustworthy and ethical in the view of americans. but now only 45% of the american people now say, first of all, that they approve of the job he's doing. that's an eight-point drop since may. and a bunch of factors are contributing to that. there's the number of people who

down eight points since the controversy over the irs. and those leaks investigations. so overall, only 49% of americans say they think the president, honest and trustworthy. six in ten americans object to the way he has handled the surveillance issues, scoring worse than president bush on this issue. all of this seems to be driving a plunge in his approval among core supporters, young people. their support dropped 17 points since may. not a lot for the president to like in our new poll. >> we'll keep following that story. jess, good luck there in ireland. we appreciate your reporting. the supreme court today striking down the arizona law requires voters to provide proof of citizenship. the state argued that it helps prevent voter fraud. but the justices argued with critics who claimed -- who called it unconstitutional. a lot of unnecessary paper work was the bottom line here. coming up, a woman who was one of the youngest death row inmates in america released

today. the victim's grandson is also for it. you're going to hear him explain why. plus, a teenager's parents demanded answers. now the body of their son, who was found dead inside a school gym mat is is exhumed. i'll speak live with the medical examiner about what they're looking for in an autopsy. that's next. i dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.

rather intriguing story to tell you about. the body of a georgia teenager who died in january is now in

florida for a second autopsy. kendrick johnson's body was found inside his high school gymnasium in value decembdesta,. his body was found inside a gym mat. how did he get in there? in an attempt to answer the question his body was exhumed friday at the request of his family. they're not convinced it was an accident at the initial autopsy concluded. >> we also anticipate that there may be evidence that his death was a coverup. >> it's just sad it had to be done this way, you know. they had to dig him up to get the truth. but if that's what it take, that's what it's going to be. if it was foul play and if somebody did something to him, they fwot to pay. >> let me tell you what the police repo)t says. according to the police report

kendrick had gone head first into the rolled up mat to apparently no one else was around when he got stuck and he suffocated. >> we examined all the alternatives that were presented to us. the only one that fit the physical evidence and the fri d forensic evidence and testimonial evidence we received was this was an accident. >> dr. bill manion is chief of pathology at memorial hospital in burlington county, new jersey. d8he's also the county's medica examiner. thank you for joining us. is there something -- is something fishy here? have you ever heard of a case like this? >> well, it's a very unusual case. and it's the kind of case where as a medical examiner, i would probably get a second forensic pathologist to help me with it. just so we could have two eyes on it, two minds on it to think about it. it is extremely unusual to have a death like this. and whenever we encounter cases like this, normally we would get help on it. i'd get another pathjt)áu to

help me look at this case carefully. because it is ve)y, very a second pathologist, does that mean a second autopsy? because they're asking for a second autopsy. what might a sq(jt autopsy reveal that the first one missed? >> well, they're worried that there might be !ruises on the face. remember, his -- his body was head down. so if you die in that position where your body is head down, the blood will pool around your face. so his head looked very swollen with blood and everything. and some people are interpreting that as bruises. we may -- the second autopsy, they may make cuts into the skin to see if that's really a hemorrhage or is it really just congestion from the blood pooling by gravity. something, quote, lovio mortis.

l-i-v-o-r. livor mortis. >> becareful with your microphone. it's brushing on your jacket. i want the audience to hear you. there are some bruises on his head. many people thought it may be rough housing or someone that im. from the photographs, the bruising that you see on his head, could that come from him going into -- down into that mat? >> yes. yes. whenever a person dies, even after death, the blood u)s& continue to move through the blood vessels and will pool in the capillaries. if you die face down, the blood will pool on the front of your body. blood will pool in the back of your body. >> this doesn't explain -- >> pooling -- d8>> it could be him jumping in. it could be a prank gone wrong. from the autopsy it won't reveal that. more investigating would be needed. @&hc% you could just tell how he died. a second autopsy will tell how he died. we don't know if it's a prank or

he jumped in there himself. >> a second autopsy is important, i think. again, they'll look at the neck. is there any evidence of strangulation. or the hyoid bone, are those structures intact? here.ond autopsy is very good just to make sure nothing was missed on the fi)st case. >> dr. manion, thank you. we appreciate you. she went to jail almost 30 years ago and was the youngest person on death row in the united states. her name is paula cooper. she stabbed 78-year-old bible teacher to death. she stabbed her to death. today cooper walked out of prison. one of the people who helped her get out, the victim's grandson, he told cnn why he fought for her freedom and what he plans to give her now that she's free. that's next. or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow.

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she was just 16 years old when she was put on death row. pá 10:00 this morning, paula cooper became a free woman. she was locked up 27 years ago after she and a group of friends stabbed and robbed a 78-year-old bible teacher. but one of her closest allies may surprise you. he's the victim's grandson. >> i became convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that my grandmother would have had love and compassion for paula cooper and her family. i felt she wanted someone in my family to have that same sort of love and compassion. i didn't have any but was so convinced that's what she would

have wanted. i begged god to give me love and compassion for paula cooper and her family and do that on behalf i began to think i could write this girl a letter. i could tell her about my grandmother. share my grandmother's faith. i realized that prayer of love a'd compassion had been answered. i knew i no longer want her to die. i learned the most important lesson of my life that nighá. it was about the healing power of forgiveness. >> there you go. bill pelke says he has been trying to help paula cooper since then. even offering to take her shopping now that she is free. a legal analyst sunny hostin is here. sunny, we should probably have our religion -- we are sitting here, that is really what forgiveness is about. i'm not sure i'm that big of person. >> it's extraordinary when you think about it. this is a very violent crime. you keep in mind this happened when she was 16. she was placed on at the tideat the judge. now in our country post-2005 the supreme court has outlawed and abjq" putting juveniles to

death. >> i was going to say. she was the youngest convicted, right, youngest person on death row in the united states. >> yeah. >> did her age play a large part in her release? >> well, no. well, yes. i think absolutely. because we just don't do that anymore. but i think what is so fascinating about this, when it comes to the death penalty, people have really strong feelings. right? they either feel -- they're very much in support of the death penalty or very much against it. now you have this person that was affected by this crime saying, you know, even though this is something that happened, i can find forgiveness. i think that's really ext extraordina extraordinary. >> she was 15 years old i think when she was convicted. there were strong calls for her to be put to death, right? t$en they gave her 60 years. >> right. the supreme court reversed it, gave her 60 years. a lot of people came out in support of her. i think when the law is the law, you have the death penalty, this, again, was a crime that was so done very -- it was just

egregious. you're talking about you steal $10 from a 70-something-year- bible teacher and stab her over 33 times. that is so violent. many would say if the death penalty isn't appropriate in a case like that, when is it appropriate. >> you heard what he said, bill pelke. you heard what he said. there are many people that say why the heck should she get out? she did something that was horrible. >> so, so heinous. my understanding is her sentence was reduced to 60 years. but she hasn't served that. but i think it has a lot to do with hq) age. are we saying in our society that if you do something at 15 years old or 16 years old you can never be rehabilitated? i'd like to think that that's not true. >> does this send a message to other people on at the time row -- death row or life in prison, you think? >> in terms of forgiveness, absolutely. i've spent time with folks that are in prisjjip &hc% a lot of times they say what they want most is forgiveness. this is an extraordinary example of that. right? >> yeah. it really is. like you said, he's a very big

person. >> bigger than perhaps i would be in that position. >> you don't know unless you're put in that position. certainly seems it would be hard to do for anyone. thank you. we appreciate it. coming up here on cnn, inside google's new wi-fi test. it involves 30 gigantic balloons. pluák it's a move that could change the way you get music. why the heck did samsung pay big bucks to just give away jay-z's new album? we'll break it down. the mayor of a huge city slapped in cuffs. find out what he's accused of doing. it's all next.

bottom of the hour. hello, everyone. the nquj just keeps coming here on cnn. i'm don lemon live from new york. technology, sports, politics and show biz news. hitting it all on cnn. high-tech goes old school high above the earth. google launches 30 gigantic balloons. a test design to bring internet service to the far corners of the earth. the 40 foot balloons will fly at 60,000 feet. about twice as high as an airliner. the plan is to create an airborne web network controlled ground. what everyone is talking about, jay-z at it again. making more money. making millions and creating a

buzz. creating buzz for his new album s released to the public. ♪ >> sounds good, doesn't it? that's a portion of a three minute commercial that aired turg last night's nbp finals promoting jay-z's upcoming release. magna carta holy grail. samsung is going to give away a million copies to galaxy phone users before the rest of us can buy it on july fourth. krista smith joins us from l.a. she's a west coast editor of "vanity fair." my little ole iphone is no good when it comes to this. why is jay-z doing this and why is he doing it with samsung? >> oh, it's so smart. first of all, to launch the commercial in the middle of the nba finals where you're going to hit all boards. all audiences. it's -- i think that artists are always looking for something to breakthrough the noise. and he found it it's two huge brands.

jay-z and samsung joined together. it's like the big bang. it's great. he's already won as far as i'm concerned. my 7-year-old was already talking abouá the commercial this morning. i happened to have been watching this because i was watching the finals. to see those titans of music, rick ruben and ferel it's like you're in the studio with them. you're already invested. >> look at you, rick ruben and ferell. >> it's true. you see rick ruben. this guy on the couch. you feel like, oh, wait, i'm in there. who doesn't want to -- i don't have a samsung. i will tell you that. i do not have one. but i will think again about it. in that respect i think that they both kind of win in terms of branding. jay-z looks cool. àas he said, he's the wild, wil west. who knows. maybe this will work. maybe it won't. but i'm going to try it. which is something he's always been on the forefront. >> chri was watching the finals too. sitting at a restaurant right

across from the time warner center. it was my dinner break. what's going on? what's this long thing happening? why am i seeint jay-z? one would thing from the outset samsung giving away these records, these songs, it's going to cost them millions. i think it's money made on both sides here. it's good for business. >> absolutely. i think it's good for both of them. and both of them can afford it. it's not like anyone is going to break the bank trying to do this ventu venture. i think it's really, really smart for samsung. it attaches them to the brand of jay-z. otherwise people who didn't know about samsung now know about it. they're both reaching different audiences. even last night it was trending on social media huge. they've already won. regardless of the dollar amount. i think if you're -- i'll be curious to see how many -- how quickly the 1 million records get dropped. like, does that go in three minutes? does it go in ten minutes? how long is that going to be? how quick lly does that go whent actually drops 72 hours before.

>> i got to tell you, krista, every little bit helps. i had an iphone for a long time. o'e of the first people to get an ipad. every little bit helps. i have a friend who has a samsung. he's been trying to get me over there. every little bit, i keep going, d8maybe i should. the screen is bigger. maybe i should. they're giving away music. i don't know. right? >> right. i think that's -- i think that's exactly what they were trying to do. also, it's just another way that music is being disrupted again. you know, technology is disrupting the traditional marketr'g and sales. this is a new way to -- let's see what happens. this is a new venture. >> all right. hipster, krista smith. we appreciate it. see you soon here on cnn. >> i try. i'm fronting. ♪ >> superman just conquered the weekend box office with $125

million in u.s. sales. nothing to sneeze at. now he's headed for the hall of fame, for the kansas hall of fame. the hall will induct superman on friday citing his soli" work ethic and the smalltown values he learned in smallville. he'll join kansas greats like dwight eisenhower. the interim mayor of montreal, canada, held his job since only november when the mayor had to resign over corruption claims. today michael applebalm w$o vowed to end an era of sleaze was accused of taking bribes related to real estate deals. >> one of the persons arrested is the current mayor of the city of montreal. michael applebaum faces 14 criminal charges of fraud, breach of trust, conspiracy, municipal corruption. >> it is time for mayors of canada of the two largest

cities. in toronto a major recently denied claims he was spotted in an online video allegedly using a crack pipe. ford has called thjut claims ridiculous. okay. call it a college basketball edition of if you can't say it out loud, say it on twitter. overton is going pro. drafted by the oakland a's. he has some parting shots for his coach, sonny galloway, also leaving the school. thanks for being two faced the entire time i knew you. i hope all the talking behind my back to my teammates comes back to you in some way. then this. you really disappointed me and all my teammates. good luck in auburn. ouch. reports say coach sunny galloway tweeted a brief response which was later deleted. it read, i'm sorry you feel this way and chose to do this, dillon. we'll follow up when more tweets go back and forth. his nickname, the executioner. john madarano was one of whitey

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reputed mob boss james "whitey" bulger baci in the courtroom. today his alleged former hitman taking the stand. bulger allegedly ran an irish boston gangtx>situation like th killed everybody. everybody that works for me. >> well, convicted assassin john martorano confessed to killing 20 people. but served a relatively short prison sentence in exchange for his testimony today.

cnn's deb feyerick live for us in boston. deb, you've been in the courtroom. what was it like watching these two men in the courtroom today? consid >> reporter: you know, it's fascinating. these are men who described their relationship as best friends. partners in crime. godfathers to each other's children. yet they did not make any eye contact whatsoever. the prosecutor asked, why are you here testifying? john martorano said the reason is because when he found out that james "whitey" bulger was an informant, he says, quote, it broke my heart. it broke all loyalties. so john martorano's key role right now is to place whitey bulger at some of the 19 murders. so far he's done that in at least eight cases. they were partners. what they would do is martorano was the one wielding the machine gun. he was the one who always seemed to be killing people while james bulger was the one in the radio car, trail car. so if anything happened he would sort of intercede or steer the victim in the right direction. it was a very interesting

dynamic to hear how these two were able to do what they did to gain supremacy back in the late '60s, early '70s in terms of taking over the streets of boston. >> deb, the jurors heard from another interesting witness, right? >> reporter: absolutely. this was the bookmaker. this was whitey bulger's bookmaker. it was so interesting. because it really looked like the two men had almost a fondness for one another. as court began today, they smiled at one another. they had been through a lot together. but as the testimony wore on, the bookmaker was very flustered. he was questioned repeatedly on cross-examination. had a hard time coming up with dates. hard time coming up with certain situations. but there were certain key points in terms of his relationship with whitey bulger that there was no doubt, no doubt about whitey bulger extorting money, having him pay rent, and about a partner instilling such fear in these people that they really controlled -- this is how they were able to conduct their reign of terror, don. >> deborah feyerick in boston.

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if you own a 2006 or 2007 chevy trailblazer or gmc enenvo general motors says you should have the vehicle checked for a possible fire hazard. in the meantime you're advised to leave the vehicle outside because it could catch fire when parked. nearly 194,000 vehicles are covered in the recall. they also include the 2006 and 2007 buick rainier. the saab 97-x. the is sue zu ascender. general motors says an electronics module in the driver's side door could corrode and short circuit. ford motor company going old school again with dash board controls. digital touch screen that dominates the auto industry has not been as successful with some ford customers. alison kosik with the details.

alison, i'm all for it. we were just talking about it. old school knobs and buttons are easier. you don't even have to look. they don't distract you. >> exactly. >> yes, yes. >> you know why? because, you know, i was thinking about this. sometimes too much of a good thing is just that. it's too much. too much coming at you when you're driving down the road. we're talking about these touch screen dashboards with all the bells and whistles. some ford drivers are saying they're not all that. ford is actually bringing back the old fashioned buttons, mixing actually a little of the old with the new. look at the ford f-150. it's already got a combination of touch screen and traditional knobs. and ford even says it has an 86% satisfaction rating. so it's planning to have this sort of similar blend of buttons and knobs when it makes its vehicles in the future. there's a second reason for this change, though, don. there's more and more evidence out there that these touch screens in cars are causing us to be more distracted. the national highway traffic safety administration is

developing guidelines to reduce the number of distractions. look what it found. it found there's a sizable difference between tuning a radio with a knob and tuning it with buttons. that it's much easier to locate, as you said, to turn a knob without taking your eyes off the road. don? >> i'm wondering if it's the start of a new trend or if other companies plan similar changes. you know, you have the button now to start it. i like the old fashioned key where you feel the power. >> i know. and you can't get away from that, right? where you have to hit on the brakes to start the car. at this point we're not getting any specifics from other car makers about putting in more knobs and buttons. there are many automakers who are changing the systems to cut down on the distractions in the car. i want to give you one example. because many touch screen systems in these new cars, they don't allow you to do certain things while the car is actually moving. you can't dial a full phone number, touch buttons on your gps. others won't led you read your text messages or e-mails or play videos. nissan wants to limit the time

you take your eyes off the road. so far all these guidelines are voluntary. consumers are saying, hey, we want these restrictions. 90% of americans say they're in favor of laws against distracted driving. don? >> yeah. best car ever. mass transportation. thank you very much. alison kosik. we appreciate it. a celebrity chef known internationally for writing cookbooks and hosting television shows making news for a different reason now. a british tabloid published picture rs that it says shows nigella lawson's husband choking her. now he's responding to the story. we're live in london, next. ready?

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they're causing quite a stir in britain today. matthew chance is outside the london restaurant where the incident happened. matthew, the restaurant employees say they didn't see anything. tell us about the pictures that set all of this off. >> reporter: yeah. the restaurant is right here in this very upscale neighborhood, don, of central london. it's called may yn fair. the restaurant is just over there. they were sitting, the couple, at a table just outside under those black screens there. absolutely stunning pictures that have really shocked this country. they've gone all over the internet, of course. we've got them here on the front pages, sflaplashed all over thi daily newspaper in britain. nigella lawson, one of the world east most famous celebrity chiechie chefs, you're able to make out there there's a hand gripping her throat. that hand belongs to her millionaire husband who's an advertising executive. also one of the world's most prominent collectors of

contemporary art. he's tried to play down this apparent tiff they were having outside of the restaurant by saying this was just -- there wasn't any grip in his hand. he explains the fact that she's crying by saying it wasn't because she was feeling any pain or any hurt, it was simply because she doesn't like to argue with him. and he doesn't like to argue with her. that's his explanation. the police so far have commented. they've said they're looking into the facts surrounding this incident to decide whether or not they need to investigate any further, don. >> you said he's put out a statement. specifically saying that it was just a playful tiff that they were having. what is he saying about her children, about moving out of the house? there are reports about that. >> reporter: yes, there are. there have been somewhat conflicting reports. we've spoke ton the publicist for nigella lawson. she's confirmed to us that she has left the family home. that's somewhere else in london.

she's taken her two children with her. but charles sachi has also issued a statement to the evening standard, a london newspaper here saying, look, she hasn't left him. she's merely gone out to avoid the press attention which as you can imagine is quite intense. >> okay. all right. thank you. we appreciate it. matthew chance. again, what do the pictures really say? was it a playful tiff? who knows. we're left to find out until someone makes a full comment. until she says exactly what it is. our thanks to matthew chance. coming up, we're just getting live pictures of the brand-new search, the brand-new search for jimmy hoffa. a former mobster gave the tip. and his lawyer says this one is for real. we're going to take you to the scene. to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians.

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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello, everyone. top of the hour. i'm don lemon live from new york. we're going to begin with a fast moving situation at the airport in newark, new jersey. okay. there's the map. let me tell you about what's happening. the fbi is on the scene after a boeing 777 landed from hong kong just a short time ago. okay? pictures from the scene now. an unruly passenger was removed. there he is right there. from united flight 116 which landed without incident. see him in the blue jacket. you see some officers and people, two men in uniform, taking him off. the man was then taken to a local hospital for evaluation. officials say he had become disruptive during the flight, claiming the passengers had been poisoned. the cdc has since cleared the plane to park at the gate. no charges, no charges have been

filed at this point. we're going to bring you more information as soon as it becomes available. there's the video moments ago. officers taking that unruly passenger off the plane and putting him into an ambulance and taking him now to a hospital to be evaluated. more on that as we get it. now to the man who broke open one of the nation's most secretive agencies opening up even more now about himself. this time edward snowden took your questions. snowden did a live chat through the website of britain's "guardian" newspaper. as he's opening up, you have to wonder what authorities are doing to pin him down. the u.s. as filed charges against snowden for leaking the classified documents on snooding by the national security agency. snowden said e-mail surveillance could be thwarted telling one questioner this. encryption works. properly implemented strong krip toe systems are one of the few things that you can rely on. unt fortunately, end point

security is so terrifically weak. snowden, very cryptically himself, gave hints if anything happens to him the leaks will continue. quoting snowden now. all i can say right now is the u.s. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. truth is coming. and it cannot be stopped. nic robertson is in hong kong with more on snowden's live chat. listen, does that -- that kind of sounds like a threat. like either you don't do anything to me or you can't murder me. that sounds really odd, nic. >> it sounds like a guy who's really putting up a defense. you never quite know when it's going to be the last time that we're actually going to hear from him. i mean, look, he's taken into his confidence a few journalists. he has to figure that a lot of intelligence agencies, not least of all from the united states, would like to get their hands on these computers. he came out with four computers. would like to get their hands on those computers to find out

precisely what he's got. but a man like this, tech savvy as he is, you've got to believe that he has dumped down some of that data and passed it to other people. maybe that's inherent on what he's saying there. you know, this was a very fiery defense that he gave of himself here. about 20 questions answered in the space of close to two hours. around about midnight time here. answering criticism from dick cheney, who'd accused him of being a traitor. i'll read you what he says here. very fiery comeback. he say this is is the man, talking about dick cheney, who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of awe trosty warmup, he says, on the way to decretefully engineering a conflict that killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 americans as well as leaving 100,000 iraqis dead. being called a traitor by dick cheney is the highest honor you can give an american. so this was the sort of spirit of what he was -- of his mood.

answering some questions in detail. technical questions. but firing back at this criticism about him, don. >> of course, he said dick cheney did all this when he was u.s. vice president under george bush. what's the response to the live chat on the "guardian" website. was it overwhelming? it has to be. everyone is paying attention to it. >> reporter: you know, there is a lot of interest. it was only announced just a couple of hours before the chat took place. hashtag ask snowden was the hashtag it was given by the "guardian" newspaper a couple of hours before. that got 17,000 tweets. that's a big number. it was leading in the united states. the other hashtag associated with snowden, #snowden, in about a eight hours around that period, that had 43,000 tweets. it was trending very high. it is -- what he's saying is being watched, is being listened to by a lot of people, don.

>> he got into this by saying, you know, i don't want to be the center of attention. it's the information i want americans to know about and let them decide whether it's right. i've got an interesting question for you just real quickly here. from twitter. because you mentioned the response on twitter. it says isn't it time the media stop giving snowden the attention he so desperately craves? do you think he's craving attention, nic? >> yeah, partly. he wants to keep the debate going. he needs to generate support for himself. as he put it, look, the mainstream media, they're not debating the principle issues here about how this surveillance system works and there aren't checks and balances as he sees he thinks should be in place. he thinks the mainstream media has gone on to talking about what my girlfriend looks like. so, yes, he does want people to talk about it. but he wants them on this core issue. after all, look, this is a guy who doesn't want to go to jail for the rest of his life. he knows the only way he can do that is by stumping up enough support where he is.

if you read what some of chinese state media are saying here, they're saying beijing shouldn't let hong kong allow him to be extra dadited to the united sta. >> nithank you. president obama is across the pond. northern ireland, g-8 summit. last word, intraday crucial meeting with russian president vladimir putin on the war in syria. russia is arming the assad regime. we're awaiting word on that meeting. here at home, the president's standing has taken a nose dive. i want you to take a look at this. president obama's job approval rating didn't only slip below 50%, it went all the way down to 45% in a cnn poll. a cnn sponsored poll. that's an eight-point plunge in just one month. with us now live from washington, our chief political analyst, cnn's gloria borger. so it is a sizable drop. >> yeah. >> it is. so what's the reason behind

this? >> well, there are -- there are a couple things that come to mind. first of all, this is a president who's been dealing with an awful lot of controversy lately. let's start with irs. national security agency surveillance you were just talking about, edward snowden over there. the question of drones. leak investigation. these are things that raise the eyebrows of a lot of people. make them question trust in government and question the president himself. the second thing is, as you look internally into these polls, don, what you see the president's -- 17 points in one month among the under 30 set. 17 points. that's an awful lot. that's an awful lot for him. these are the people who really were behind him 100%. >> gloria, we did a little unscientific poll this weekend with people on facebook and

twitter with one of our human behavior experts. people on facebook who are older sided with the -- on the side of the government, saying snowden should not have given away these secrets. younger people on twitter were saying, hey, this guy is a hero because we don't like to be spied on. i think that's probably why younger people feel that they can't trust a government which spies on them. >> right, yes. >> that may make sense there, yeah. >> and older people also have a sense that they've already given up their privacy. because the kind of privacy they have now is nothing like what they remember back in the day, right? younger people think, you know what? we still do have a bit of privacy. and we don't want to be -- to be surveilled upon. you just put up this poll here. honest and trustworthy. this is another big problem for the president, don. because he's down nine points from may. and even if people didn't like the president, they kind of always gave him the benefit of the doubt. because they thought that he was

generally a good guy who meant well and was trustworthy. now you see how that poll -- that number is dropping precipitously. and i think they're starting to link the president and their lack of trust in him to the government. which they also don't trust. so that's another problem for the administration. >> great analysis. as always. gloria borger, thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> you as well. supreme court today striking down the arizona law requiring voters to provide proof of citizenship. the state argued it helps prevent voter fraud. the justices agreed with critics who called it unconstitutional and a lot of unnecessary paperwork. the fbi digging today for the body of jimmy hoffa. that's right. jimmy hoffa again. jimmy hoffa union boss, convict, organized crime figure. hoffa vanished on a hot summer night in detroit 1975 and hasn't

been seen since. an hour or so ago, a lawyer with ties to the case said this time it's for real. >> the hoffa body is in that field. no doubt about it. there used to be a barn in that field. buried under the barn under a cement slab. that's where our understanding is that the body should be. >> so he says. keep in mind, that tip is of a dubious nature from tipsters of shaky repute. excuse me. have triggered excavations for hoffa's body as far away from new jersey. okay. joining me now from washington, tom fuentes, former assistant director from the fbi. we have to stop meeting this way, tom. every day we're having a con v r conversation. this is a lighter story to talk

to you about. but the tipster behind this latest search is a guy named tony zarilli. he's a former mobster. he did time in prison. he got out. now he tells the fbi he knows where hoffa's buried. we had a guest last hour who told us quite a lot about tony zarilli. let's listen. >> he was broke. he had no place to go. he went to a reporter at nbc and he said, i want to show you where jimmy hoffa's body is. he took the reporter to this field in oakland township. of course, everyone started looking at the property records. the property is in the name of jack toko. the question is, does tony zarilli really know something or is he just trying to get even with jack toko for making him persona non grata in the underworld. >> tom, did you get all that? >> kind of. >> why should we believe tony zarilli is any different than any of these other mafia figures who've known where hoffa was buried all these years.

>> don, he's a former mafia boss. he has to be telling the truth, right? on the other hand, the fbi has over the years, as you've mentioned, i ran the program. came up working organized crime in the chicago office during my career. so there have been sightings or claims of knowing where that body is ever since he disappred in 1975. but the difference is that so many of the people in the past wouldn't have a clue. and really just didn't really know or weren't in a position to know. now, last year there was a dig for a body -- for his body. and the person said, oh, i saw jimmy hoffa being buried by two guys. later it comes out i saw a guy who was burying a bag that it was right around the time hoffa disappeared. you had all these sightings in the past that were not very good. zarilli was the boss of the detroit mob from '70 to '75. hoffa disappears in '75 while he's in prison. zarilli gets out of prison a short time after. it's not just a low ranking guy,

some other gangster. it's a boss of a family in america at the time. the mafia in america was very, very powerful during the '70s. he's in a position that he could know. now, whether he does know or whether he's telling the truth or whether as alleged he's writing a book right now and maybe he's just trying to get better book sales and attention and put himself out there in the media, that could be. on the other hand, he is a person that the fbi has looked at and said, well, if somebody's going to know it, if there is somebody that might have the information, he would be one. and it's worth following up on. >> we'll know soon enough. the proof is in the digging. >> that's true. >> we'll know. thank you, tom fuentes. appreciate it. >> you're welcome, don. coming up, a realty tv show taping a police raid when the officer shoot and kills a 7-year-old girl. a new twist involving the deaths in room 225. three people found dead inside the same hotel room weeks apart. we found out it was because of

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weekend in chicago. despite the fact that murder and shooting rates have dropped. there were 26 shootings over the weekend in the city. leaving seven people dead. earlier a chicago pastor spoke about why the violence is erupting and how it's part of the ongoing street culture in chicago. >> there are a myriad of issues surrounding all this violence. you have educational issues. you've got social, spiritual issues. but at the end of the day, you have a lot of angry young men. a lot of hostile young men. so much so that there's a lot of retaliation, a lot of fwoing back and forth. a lot of people don't understand the trauma and drama that's going on in our community. >> pastor brooks credits police for their work, but says more collaboration needs to come from the community, neighborhoods and families. a police spokesman says the overall crime rate in chicago is down by 14%, the lowest since 1963. to detroit now. a jury is deciding the fate of a police officer who killed a little girl during a raid on her

home. during the raid, officer joseph weekly's gun went off, shooting 7-year-old ayana jones. she was sleeping on her couch. he's charged with involuntary manslaughter and has testified he didn't intentionally kill the girl. the raid was being filmed for a & e's documentary film show "the first 48." a clip was shown in court. here's cnn's sarah gannon with more. >> reporter: the video played in court was low resolution. listen carefully. just seconds after the flash bang grenade goes off, a shot is heard. 7-year-old ayana jones, asleep on a couch, was hit in the head with a bullet from officer

joseph weakly's mpv sub machine gun. he's on tlil for that shooting. >> you feel devastated. horrible. y just the sorrow to be involved even to this day you can't explain it. it's horrible. >> reporter: cameras from the a&e show "the first 48" were allowed to be there after an order from the chief of police. >> the policy at that particular time was to use television essentially to highlight fighting crime in detroit. >> reporter: ron scott, spokesman for the detroit coalition against police brutality, says former police chief warren evans would later resign, in part because he was too involved with reality tv. >> the series that he had wanted to initiate called "the chief," he had had some walking down the street with a high powered rifle saying he's going to clean up the streets. >> reporter: chief evans didn't respond to interview requests by cnn. but officer at weekley's trial said they didn't want cameras there. they were looking for a murder suspect. it just added pressure to the

situation. >> they were nice enough people. but it was very intrusive, i felt, when you're investigating murder scenes. >> reporter: weekley and his attorneys blame the shooting on the young girl's grandmother. says she hit the officer's gun when the flash bang grenade went off. >> a lady jumped up and grabbed my gun and i shot a kid. >> reporter: ron scott says that flash bang grenade would probably not have been used if the cameras weren't rolling. >> i think that that was done for the camera. i really do. as much as they say that they didn't want to do it that way, i think that idea was theatriatrt >> sarah, what does joseph weekley face if he's convicted? >> don, the jury is literally still out. they started deliberating. but they have not come back with a verdict. prrpts say this was negligence. he's charged with involuntary manslaughter. if convicted, he could face up to 15 year. but no one here is saying it was

anything other than negligence, really. don. >> sarah gannon, thank you very much. coming up next, three mysterious deaths in a north carolina hotel room. well, they've all been linked to one thing. carbon monoxide poisoning. now the boone, north carolina, medical examiner has resigned. we're going to tell you why, next. ready? happy birthday! it's a painting easel! the tide's coming in!

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in boone, north carolina, three people have died in the same best western hotel room in just months. now the local medical examiner has resigned after it was determined the first two deaths were caused by carbon monoxide poisoning. could the third death, that of an 11-year-old boy, have been prevented? alina mochado has been looking into the circumstances. >> dr. brent hall turned in his resignation on friday afternoon. he was the medical examiner for the county. his resignation came less than a week after an 11-year-old boy died of carbon monoxide poisoning while staying at a best western hoteljeffrey willi

and his mother were found unresponsive at the hotel on june 8th. they were in room 225. that's the same room where darrell and shirley jenkins were staying when they died april 16th. initially according to documents cnn has obtained, dr. hall suspected a possible overdose as the cause of death for the jenkins. it wasn't until after the boy's death police in boone say they received the toxicology report for shirley jenkins, showing carbon monoxide was to blame for her death. according to a spokesperson for north carolina's department of health and human services, the toxicology report for shirley jenkins was e-mailed to dr. hall on june 1st. that was a saturday. it was exactly a week before jeffrey's death. we don't know when dr. hall saw the report or why he did not send it to boone police sooner. cnn has been unable to reach dr. hall for this story. don? >> all right. thank you, alina machado, we appreciate it. up next, news on everyone

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grail." alison cottic kosik is at the n stock exchange. bobbing her head. grooving along. >> i was. >> you were. were you doing the -- what's the thing when you do that? i forget what that's called. tell us about jay-z's new deal. >> okay. i'm hearing myself. take my voice out of my ear for a second. samsung is buying 1 million digital copies of this album for a reported $5 a piece and giving them away for free to samsung galaxy users. only if you've got these phones or tablet, you're the only one that can get this album for free. samsung is guaranteeing this new jay-z album goes platinum on day one. already i don't know if you've looked at social media. the reaction, don, lots of jay-z fans are wishing they had a samsung phone right now. one said on twitter it's the first time i've wanted to swap my iphone for a samsung. others are asking for their friends with samsung phones to get the album for them. clearly this is exactly the

response samsung is hoping for. you know what it's doing. it's raising that cool factor. it's also making people think twice about their iphones, don. >> yeah. i'm one of them, as a matter of fact. you know how i love my apple products. >> you do. i can't imagine you parting with it. >> i was thinking about the bernie. if you were doing the bernie. listen, it was a long commercial. it caught a lot of people off guard including me as i was watching. what am i watching here? it was probably expensive. it sounds like it could pay off. >> here's the thing. we don't know exactly who paid for the ad. but we do know that they're not paying super bowl rates. still, we crunched some numbers. we figured out those three minutes could have cost more than $2.5 million. you think about it. this whole campaign, don, it's a huge deal. especially when you consider samsung spending $5 million to buy these albums and give them away. but putting it in perspective, this is really just a drop in the bucket for samsung which has a huge, huge ad budget. samsung has gone hard at apple with its advertising over the past couple of years.

samsung spent almost five times what apple spent on ads last year. just to give you a comparison, apple spent $1 billion. samsung spent $4.9 billion. samsung is really charging hard at apple and taking jay-z along with them, don. >> wow. all right. get back to work slash play. put your ear buds in and keep jamming. >> will do. >> thank you, alison cottkosik. he came from krypton. kansas claims him, too. superman. ♪ >> he just conquered the weekend box office with $125 million in u.s. sales. now he's headed for the kansas hall of fame. the hall will induct superman on friday citing his solid work ethic and the smalltown values he learned in smallville. he'll join kansas great like dwight eisenhower, amelia airhart and marshall matt dylan. a woman who falsely accused a high school football star of

rape has $2.6 million to the school district. in 2002 gibson accused brian banks, a star football player and classmate. she also sued the long beach unified school district for lack security and received a $750,000 settlement. now a judge has ordered her to repay that money, plus interest, plus interest. and legal fees. and $1 million in punitive damages. banks was convicted and served more than five years in prison before gibson admitted she was not raped. cnn's legal analyst sunny hostin is is here. that's an amazing case. before you accuse someone you better think twice, now. >> it's unbelievable. i think about it because i prosecuted sex crimes. how usually, i mean, it's very rare that a victim just makes these sort of things up. he always said that was consensual. he was only 16 years old. she was 15 years old. a star football player. he had already accepted a position at usc. it's just remarkable that it

turned out this way. five years he spent in prison registered as a sex offender, don. >> this is a mistaken identity. falsely accused. what's the responsibility of falsely accusing someone? >> that's the thing. she clearly perjured herself. that's a crime in and of itself. we're talking about five years in prison. i know and understand the prosecutor's office is thinking about charging her. i say absolutely. >> should she be prosecuted? >> no question. i think this over $2 million she has to pay should be the least of her worries. she should be prosecuted for perjury. she ruined someone's life. he spent five years in prison. she should spend five years in prison. >> he says, i'm not angry. >> again, we were talking about. >> forgiveness. >> last hour about forgiveness. i mean, he actually is now living his nfl dream. he was signed with the atlanta falcons. >> he signed an nfl contract with the atlanta falcons and is currently in falcons training camp. 27-year-old rookie now. >> which is unbelievable that he was able to fulfill his dream. but, again, i say when you're talking about someone who

perjures themselves in a sex crimes case, in any case, she should be charged. >> let me tell you something. i know from my 17 years on earth -- no, i'm kidding. karma is a you know what. he will soar. >> he will. >> she will probably -- >> they're thinking about prosecuting her. we'll see. >> yeah. thank you. >> thanks. >> appreciate it. best of luck to him as well. >> absolutely. the interim mayor of montreal, canada, has held his job only since november when the mayor resigned over corruption claims. today michael applebaum who took over as interim mayor vowing to end what he called an era of sleaze in city government was arrested. he is accused of taking bribes related to real estate deals. co coming up, we know bullying among kids is a big problem. what about bullying between siblings? a study out today says brothers and sisters might be causing real psychological harm. so is it a right of passage or

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this next story has he fired up. it's a new study. it says this. parents need to watch out for bullies not only in the classroom, but in the home. your child's brother or sister might be causing as much damage to your child's mental health as a school thug. it is the latest finding in the journal of pediatrics which analyzed questionnaires answered by 3,600 kids 17 and younger. going to turn now to child psychologist, rachel shane field. cnn's senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, to you first. what does this study say about the effects of sibling bullying? what does it do to a child specifically? >> don, i think the most important thing to look at in this study is how did they define bullying?

they said bullying can be anything from real physical abuse and threatening your sibling, if you tell mom and dad i'm beating up on you, you're going to be in even more trouble at one end of the spectrum. on the other end of the spectrum if a kid went into another kid's room and took their pen without permission that would be considered bullying. if a kid said you're such a jerk, that's considered bullying. what they found is that kids who were bullied anywhere on that spectrum were more likely to have mental health problems later on in life. >> okay. rachel, i can hear some parents saying, come on. we are coddling our kids way too much here. >> yeah. that's absolutely the case. we really want to promote a way for them to resolve conflicts in a healthy manner. but we also want to teach them how to respectfully disagree. it's a term i use. respectful disagreement. how to problem solve more appropriately without intent to harm or intimidate. >> okay. isn't this all part of, though,

it seems like every study that come out about bullying, listen, there are legitimate cases of bullying. but not everything -- you were describing the spectrum, elizabeth. not all of that is bullying. that's part of the maturation process. you're going to need those things to get along in life as an employer, as an adult. >> i would tell you, this is an event from the cohen household just a few nights ago, one of my daughters stole a lip gloss from her sister's room. and her sister said, oh, you're such a jerk. you took my lip gloss. according to this study both of my daughters are bullies and they will both be more likely to suffer mental health distress later on in life because of this lip gloss incident. come on. >> that sounds like normal sibling behavior. >> i know. >> add i said to dr. wendy yesterday, a human behavior expert, when i was a kid if someone hit me or yelled at me i would go home and my mom or my dad would say did you yell at them? did you hit them back? if i said no, they'd say go back

down the street and yell at them and hit them back. you know what? that was good for me. otherwise i would have grown up being a wimp. rachel? >> here i think the difference is, is that we don't want to create the separation of power. we don't want to create the dynamic of a bully versus victim mentality. that starts to create some issue with power and control. then one is always playing the i'm the victim, i'm being victimized and woe is me type mentality. we really want to encourage both siblings to learn how to interact more appropriately. again, more respectfully. we also want to encourage them to resolve what they need to on their own. but also an appropriately healthy way. >> how do you do that appropriately? because as a child you learn from inappropriate behavior. if you do something inappropriately, your parent tells you, that's the inappropriate way. that's part of learning. that's inappropriate. you can't do it. you have to do it over and over and over as a child to figure out what's right and what's wrong.

am i wrong here? >> no. you're absolutely correct. i think the issue is that we really want to make sure that the parents are modeling what's appropriate behavior. modeling positive interactions. any time they're watching the children interact in a positive manner in a way that is resolving things, you know, there's the typical sibling rivalry which we anticipate. but we really want to be all over the instances when they're interacting positively. we also want to provide a positive role model from the parents' side of things so children can emulate what they see in terms of how the parents handle it. >> that's all great. do you have a child? >> do i? no, i do not. >> okay. and i don't either. i'm going to ask, elizabeth cohen, who's our senior medical correspondent. because that lip balm thing is probably going to happen ten more times. >> at least. >> before they leave your house. >> i have four daughters, okay? >> what is that in laymen's terms? what does that mean for parents? you can't keep coddling your kids. >> i let the lip gloss thing go. i know my girls will work it

out. they will steal each other's lip gloss from now until eternity, i'm sure. i have four daughters. there's more lip gloss stealing in our future. i step in when i feel like things are getting out of hand. i step in if i hear -- if i really feel that they're really not being nice to one another. i'll say, come on, girls. you're sister. be nice to one another. i try to let them work it out. i think we need to call for common sense parenting here. step in when you feel your intervention is necessary. sometimes you should just let them work out their own conflicts. >> slow clap. >> i would agree with that. i would agree with that. >> slow clap. thank you very much. stop coddling kids. not everything is bully ing. again, there are legitimate cases of bullying. it's not always what it is. thank you very much rachel and elizabeth. >> thank you so much. up next, new video of a passenger being escorted out of a united flight after he said he poisoned others onboard. we have an update from authorities, next.

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situation under control ands the flight proceeded without incident. no evidence the passengers were poisoned as the man claimed. and the cdc cleared the plane to continue to the gate. we continue to get new information on this. we have people out at newark airport working that story for us. we'll bring you the new information as soon as we get it. we reported at the top of the hour the man who confessed to leaking secrets about how the government tracks your information and phone calls still in hiding. but he just held an online chat. let's go live to washington. our chief washington correspondent, anchor of "the lead," mr. jake tapper. before we get to you, i want to talk about how surreal this is. take a look at this poll. the majority of americans aren't fans of edward snowden and what he's done. perhaps more striking is is a number of americans who do approve of it. what's your take on this? 44% approve. >> i think there is a big effort by many individuals in the civil liberty community, both on the right and left, to talk about what snowden is bringing to

light in terms of the surveillance that a lot of americans did not know was going on. some of these programs have been reported on ro reported on in the past but certainly not the extent to which they're going on, certainly the internet surveillance and not since president obama was elected. there's probably a feeling of gratitude he brought them to light. on the other hand, there's probably a majority of americans who disapprove what he did. i suspect as the government continues to build their case against snowden in court and in the court of public opinion, the negatives will go up even more. >> it's great we have you here because we just got some new video in from the g8 in ireland, president obama and russian president vladimir putin. there they are. they're meeting and one would assume they are going to talk about syria.

obviously they're disagreeing to disagree on syria and arming the rebels, what do you think about that, jake? >> this is not a united world front against bashar al assad, the dictator of syria. there's a split just within the united nations security council and now we have what some might see as a proxy war, the u.s. versus russia, in a way, because the russians are backing assad and the u.s. is agreeing to provide some sort of military support, though we're not exactly clear what kind to some of the problems people reminded looking at this picture the last time was covering within of these summits and it was president obama meeting with

medvedev at the time and there president obama is able to transmit the information directly to putin. >> up next, we'll go live to boston where the trial of reputed mob boss whitey bulger is under way. on the stand today, man they call "the executioner." his testimony explosive. you don't want to miss this next.

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"whitey" bulger back in the courtroom today. bulger allegedly ran an irish boston gang and extorted bookies and loan sharks to pay rent or tribute to the gang. convicted assassin john martorano admitted to killing 20 people but served a relatively short sentence in exchange for his testimony. deb is there watching the trial in the courtroom today. that must be very interesting to watch. >> reporter: no question. it was the first time the men came face to face in nearly two decades. m

martorano was cold, calculated, emotionless, talking about all the murders he committed, opening fire with machine gun, just shot a guy through the heart, and another he had to wash the blood off his clothes because there was so much blood anywhere. the own time he even showed some emotion when he was crying whitey bulger's betrayal, when he learned he was an fbi informant and that's when martorano said "it broke my heart." the two men not making any eye contact. we saw a couple of glasses but whitey bulger stared straight ahead. he did not want to look at this man who feel whitey bulger betrayed everything these criminals once stood for. >> deb, thank you very. up next, an 11-year-old boy in california going through cancer treatment and nervous about going back to school. but it's what his classmates did for him that's truly inspiring next. i'm an accountant.

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