say because a thing of beauty is to stay. "piers morgan live" starts now "piers morgan live" starts now v. a great weekend -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight, who has the upper hand, pew tin or president obama? a man that never holds back, donald trump teams me what he thinks the president should do about syria, not to mention his thoughts on mr. putin and america's first tattooed beauty queen. as that crossed the red line? and guns for the blind. >> it's a difficult one, but the sure answer is because they can't see what they are shooting. and his message for america. >> dear america, please let

piers buy a draggen but not a gun. i want to begin with the big story. president obama and vladimir putin locked in a tug-of-war over syria. senior officials don't believe russia will agree to authorization for possible military force against syria. president obama, of course, wants to keep that option of military strikes on the table. today he said this. >> ultimately, what is needed for the underlying conflict is a political settlement that allows ordinary syrians to get back to their homes to rebuild and to relief the enormous suffering that's taking place. >> "the new york times" nick christoff is here. he says his country never looked so weak and donald trump joins me on the phone. you're angry about this. tell me why.

>> i'm not angry. i'm disappointed. we have a president out played by putin to an extent that nobody has ever seen and we look bad as a country and certainly he's looking bad. >> in terms of the leadership, that scenario you're an expert, what is he doing wrong? it seems to me he's been zigzagging all over the place and not really sticking to a firm game plan. that's never strong leadership. >> it began when he used the term red line. he's going to draw a line in the sand essentially and don't cross it. they crossed it and he didn't do anything and then it became very late and he decides to go back to congress and congress is having fits over it and it looked like he wouldn't come close to the vote and he started looking very, very ineffective and of course, the letter or editorial putin wrote in the new york times was amazing. it was just amazing. he said so much and he said it in a very nice way, but it wasn't enough. it was tough, about as tough as

you get. obama is having a very, very hard time competing. >> i mean, you know, when i read that putin thing, it had a trump feel to it. it was a brilliant stunt and created huge nose and maximum damage to the rivals while actually appearing to be smiling and charming. >> well, the letter was very well-crafted because i'm a great believer in crafting things and this was about as well-crafted as you can imagine. i don't know that he wrote it, but certainly it was his thoughts and covered so much territory and as an example, american exceptionalism. obama likes to use that term. some others like to use that term. you think of the term as being fine but say what if you're in germany or japan or any one of 100 different countries? you won't like that term. it's very insulting and putin really put it to him about that but then he talked about why are we exceptional? why would we be -- we just went

through a disaster in iraq where we spent $1.5 trillion and lost thousands of our people's lives and lots of other lives, by the way. and what did we get? nothing n. fact, it's going to be taken over by iran or a lot of things can happen in the meantime. as it is now, iran is controlling it. they are flying over it to go to syria. they have been given permission to fly, not that they needed the permission because iraq is basically been wiped out. so, you know, it's been -- it's a very sad thing. but the letter was amazing in that it covered so much territory, covered it with respect and with a smile, and it was about as tough as you could do. >> what would you do, donald, with syria and indeed with the wider issue of america's place on the world stage and in the middle east in particular? >> well, first of all, the old days we had generals like patton and robert e. lee and great

ones, douglas mcarthur and they are great. they must be turning in graves. if you fight you fight. the element of surprise is a great joke of all time. here we are having generals talking about exactly what they will do, where we will hit them, when we will hit. it won't be a hard hit but soft hit. we don't want to change the regime. it's the most incredible thing i've ever witnessed, as opposed to either doing it or not. i don't think it should be done anyway. i think this country, our country has tremendous problems that we have to solve, and we cannot be the policemen of the world. these are not people that like us in any way, shape or form. and you have others out there, not that we're backing away from russia and china and others, but we have problems in this country we have to solve before we start helping people that hate us. we have no idea who the rebels are. absolutely no idea. we think they are probably perhaps as bad as assad, maybe

worse, and so we should be attempting really tending to our own business and straightening out the united states. >> final point, complete segway here from one red line to another but a red line was crossed in the world of beauty pageants and miss america, teresa vail who has sported a very large tattoo. would you ever allow such a thing in your pageants? >> we don't encourage it. i'm not a fan of tattoos. i've seen many people getting the tattoos. i don't know what is going on. many people are getting tattoos. many regret it later on. many are done by people that aren't even artists and have less talent than i would have in putting on a tattoo and i see tick tack toe boards on their arms and legs and i don't understand what is going on with the tattoos. i would certainly not want it. i would not want anybody that i'm close to to have it. if it's done, it's done. but it's a pretty tough thing,

and it's an amazing trend. i look at some of the nba players and i say what the hell are they doing to themselves? >> donald trump, always good to talk to you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much, piers. i'll bring in nick not to talk about beauty pageants or tattoos, by all means chip in. let's turn to the serious point of syria there. donald trump and his style made points there but points that rest nate with the american people right now. what do you think of where we are with syria? >> well, i mean, first of all i disagree with donald how well the putin writing was crafted. some people suggest he over reached. you know, he executed hypocrisy when he talks about avoiding forest, somebody presiding over the deaths of 200,000 people in chechnya and talks about how god created everyone alike unless

they are gay. i think that antagonizes people. i thought it was authentic and he wrote it because in pr agency in the world would allow him to insult american -- >> it has brought him closer to the dream scenario, which is two-fold. one keeping asassad, his mate i power and removing chemical weapons that could end up with the rebels could be shifted towards somewhere like chechnya. >> it buys him into a possible solution. i mean, now he has a stake and ownership over this possible deal and we'll see where but it's not impossible. and that would be such destroyed for international security if we were to get, you know, the bulk of those chemical weapons removed. >> is that enough, though? when you're president obama and create your own red line and say it very publicly, is it enough to then not take any action if

that red line is crossed? military action. >> i mean, i think while we have peace process in place that may lead to the removal of chemical weapons, i don't think we should strike. i think it may well fall apart and in that case i think we should, and indeed, i think we should be also more aggressive in helping the rebels. i think that there is some hope we can turn the tide enough on the ground, not that the assad regime will fall but that he will be -- he will lead to serious peace talks and that will be the way to end it. >> part of the problem it seems to me is with the mess in iraq and mess in afghanistan, it kind of clouded the whole view of military action. i read you writing a piece about this. you cite marley, kosovo, examples of short military strikes of being pretty effective in saving lives. >> you know, ten years ago, it broke my heart to see so many of my fellow liberals embracing the

iraqi invasion. today, it breaks my heart to see how many people are so against the use of force in any situation that they are willing to -- >> i fell -- that's exactly how i feel. i feel the british parliament made the wrong call twice. they were wrong about iraq. >> yes, yes. >> no evidence of wmd and i think they have wrong about this because i think when somebody has so brazenly used chemical weapons against all international law, you have a moral duty to take action. >> yeah, you know, i think people bring up the hypocrisy issue we intervene in some places and don't in others. that's absolutely true. you know, i wish we had done more elsewhere. but at the end of the day, if we can inconsistently save some lives, against some threats, that's much better than accessing suffering. >> however much he's zigzagged and changed his mind as

president obama clearly has, if it ends up with the chemical weapons being removed and being seen to be removed from assad but stays in power. is that still a victory of any type? >> that would be a real win for international security if those chemical weapons were removed. if he were detoured that would be a step forward. make no mistake. i'm a fan of president obama's foreign policy in general but this is not the finest hour. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. >> thanks very much. who really has the upper hand in syria's tug-of-war. going head-to-head. the humble back seat.

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russian president vladimir putin wrote an editorial in the new york times asking the u.s. to avoid brute force and be more civilized. that's what he said. unfortunately, putin couldn't finish writing it as he had to take his shirt off and arrest gay people. >> on horseback. >> on horseback. >> you, come with me. conan o'bryan poking fun. joining me s.e. cupp and van

jones. we'll get to syria in a moment but i was watching your guns debate there. fascinating debate between all of you and wanted to ask you s.e. cupp, about this issue of the blind being given gun permits in iowa. are you a fan of that? >> you know, i'm not a fan of arbitrary rules that target certain classes of people, except criminals and all of these laws do nothing but burden law-abiding people who follow laws and don't strengthen gun legislation, they don't prohibit crime and so keeping a blind person from having a gun, prankly, isn't what we need to be worried about or talking about. >> se -- >> i -- >> s.e. i love your work and style but somebody with you with your intelligence looks at me down the camera and says blind people having guns is not an issue, i think you've gone stark raving mad. >> to be frank, gun owners and

it's not your fault for not knowing this, most people who talk about gun control don't really know much about it but most have to take safety classes and are incredibly responsible with our firearms and a blind person who might not all the way be completely blind by the way would have to go through the same kind of training and safety courses both on how to shoot his gun, use his gun, keep his gun, protect his gun, secure his gun. >> they can't see, s.e. >> you're treating blind people like they are all 100% blind. some may wear glasses, some may be considered legally blind but can see and why shouldn't they have the opportunity to defend themself -- >> van jones, am i losing the plot? >> well, look, on first blush, it does sound totally poor postrous and ridiculous but there should be a standard, and if somebody classified blind can

meet that standard, i think there is no problem -- >> how can somebody classified blind ever meet the standard to shoot a firearm. >> listen. we're having a very different conversation. if somebody can't meet the standard they shouldn't be given the license and the standard should be you should be able to shoot straight. listen, there may well be people legally blind but are able -- listen, all i know is the big problem in america is not too many blind people have guns. >> right. >> the problem is there are too many kids out here in the community who have no hope, no role models, no economic future -- >> i agree with that. >> that's the bigger problem, we're blind to the poverty and blind -- >> not to mention -- >> that's the blindness i'm worried about. >> i agree. [ overlapping speakers ] >> that's what i'm coming to. >> in the second amendment, it does not say you have the right to bear arms if you can shoot them well. that's not part of the -- >> well, you have actually answered the very question i was going to ask you which is the

reason the blind thing is so relevant is it actually comes down to constitutional rights. and i cannot imagine that any of the founding fathers who were hugely intelligence people sat there and thought, yes, it is perfectly correct and reasonable that somebody who is blind should be able to buy an ar-15 at walmart, for example. >> well, piers, they didn't seem p sit there and dream of the internet, either there is a list of complications in a progressing modern evolving world the founding fathers didn't anticipate. it's up to us, sober minds to sort of sort through those things but the constitution is what it is. it is clear on this and not up to me. to have a right. here is what i want point occupant. i saw a documentardocumentary. you're running down the street

blind shooting up in the air, whatever. this is a short. you can imagine for instance a veteran who -- this is part of their life and upbringing. they have been injured in the war. they want to be able to go with assistance to a shooting range and be able to shoot -- >> what if they want to drive a car? if they want to drive you? if they want to be a cab driver? >> there is no constitutional right to drive a car -- >> that's my point, van -- >> i think he wants to change the constitution. >> yes, i do because guess what? it's already been amended numerous times. i hate -- >> listen, let me tell you what -- >> the constitution has been amended numerous times, for a reason, to move with the times. would you be happy with a veteran in the scenario that van jones just pictured for me to be a new york cab driver if he so wanted? >> no, i wouldn't -- >> why wouldn't you? because he would be a danger to you and to himself, as would any blind person as stevie wonder told me -- >> but you're acting like this

blind veteran can show up at tlc in new york city and be given keys. he has to apply. he has to prove he's competent. i mean, we actually have gun safety classes that the nra backs, by the way, for just this sort of bizarre completely weird hypothetical scenario. >> i love you more than i can possible lip sy say, and if youo lead a movement to amend the constitution, i suggest you don't start with the blind people thing but there might be stuff to work on together. listen, i think -- >> the reason i love your -- >> piers -- >> i love your constitution, but i would say to you this, that what the supreme court ruled about this in 2008 or whatever it was, they made it very clear there should be reasonable restrictions, right. >> sure, sure. >> on what kind of firearms are in people's hands and whose hands they should be in. i don't think by any criteria, you could see that reasonable restrictions would include the

constitutional right of somebody whose completely blind having an assault rifle. >> piers, listen to me. here is the deal. if you want the change the constitution for that, that's fine -- >> don't you? >> two more things, we'll do the blind people if that makes you happy. >> [ laughter ] >> i'm not against blind people. i love people. i don't want them armed to the teeth. >> we don't have a constitutional right to vote and equality education. if we change the constitution, i think those are bigger problems than your blind person thing. that's just me. >> look, i actually thought your show was fascinating and it's great that the debate is still being had. that's the one plus of this and it will continue to rage. >> certainly. >> i was going to talk about syria with you both but you know what? we've run out of time. i found that a fascinating debate. >> another time. >> all right. >> thank you. coming up, the always outspoken ricky is here. i'll ask him what he thinks of blind people having guns. i have a feeling i may know the answer. i'll talk to him about miley cyrus and twerking just for the

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look out america, he's back. ricky, you think he will let you off easy this time, think again. the most dangerous man in comedy is with me in the chair tonight. in the chair. >> that the -- >> that's what we call it. >> i saw your tweet, as well. >> which one? >> watch as ricky gervais enters my layer. >> the chair in the layer. >> i know.

>> it scary to look at a man in a pink tie. >> [ laughter ] >> i was checking, obviously googling you for the up to date the biggest news and the biggest news story about you connected to new york was the mail online website with pictures of you and your charming lady walking along the street under the headline ricky gervais is thinner than ever. in your chubby days did you ever think you would have that headline? >> i could hope. >> you're thinner than ever. >> no, i i'd lost weight two or three years ago and i'm about the same. i did all the work in a, you know, few months and -- >> look at that. look at that. >> look at that. >> robbie. >> there is nothing wrong with that. there you go. >> when you look at the guy on the left -- >> i like him. >> what do you think? >> i like him. he enjoyed his food.

>> was he a figure of fun? >> i never worried about my weight. i knew why i was too fat. i ate too much and did not do enough exercises. and when i decided i would rather be fit than fat, i eat and drink too much but work out every day. >> how do you work out given i can't shake your right hand because of this terrible tendonitis you have. >> i can run. so run every day. >> you're in agony, right? >> i'm on painkillers so. >> for how many months have you had this? >> don't know. >> nearly a year . >> no, it started in february. i've been to so many specialist. i've had x-rays, mris. i've had ultrasound. i've had steroid injections. never again. so painful. there is nothing they can do. it's a frozen shoulder. i've never heard of this. >> a frozen shoulder. >> that's what it's called and the other name for it is

50-year-old shoulder which is really rubbing salt in the wound. every doctor they say we don't know why it happens but know it gets better by itself. it's like a weird curse. where is the medical science? why all these drugs working? i could have an operation if i wanted which would speed it up, but, you know, i'm not big on hospitals and things like that. i think trying -- whatever -- i think i'm going to die, i -- everything is terminal but i think it will get better if i wish it away. >> well for you, everyone that follows you on twitter they will know you're a pathological attest and the thought of death is the final thought, the start of something new and gorgeous for you that's it. >> for me it's the end of something glorious, so i have to pack it all in, but, you know, i'm not depressed about it. i don't want to die any more

than anyone else, and i think it's a strange myth that atheist have nothing to live for. we have nothing to die for. we have everything to live for. >> i would imagine you have a more focus to life because you think it is over when you die. >> i think it's precious. i love people, animals, art, every hobby. i can't believe my luck i'm alive for these years, maybe less. you know, i'm not long for this world. my nan used to say that. she lived to 83. >> what are you -- you said the things you like. what are the things that really annoy you? >> two things really make my blood boil, i suppose. injustice quietly makes my blood boil and social, political, you know, personal, i suppose the

two main categories are our religious intolerance, arrogance and i have no problem with spirituality. that's another myth. i always talk about the difference between stir alty and religion. one is a personal feeling, journey, hope or whatever, a need, you know, a joy and the other is an organized body that uses that for power and corporation. in many cases, in many cases. and, you know, i don't have either, but i suppose i think that when it affects me, that's when i have a say in it and religion effects me. it real. >> see, i find it an irony when people attack you on twitter for alcoh

challenging them about religious believes they show total disrespect for your belief of attest. >> of course, you know, i think people do -- well first of all, we're on to twitter now. so we're not into rational discussion. everyone takes everything personally on twitter. you know, twitter is like standing by a board in the town center and someone comes and puts up a sign guitar lessons and you go i don't want guitar lessons. not to you. one of the best tweets i've had is everyone is entitled to their opinion so keep quiet about your athiesm. >> i was pretending to be offended by something you said and we carried this on all day and the number of people completely believing that we had

genuinely fallen out was extraordinary. >> i think the world is sort of losing their sense of humor, particularly in terms of irony over the last few years but twitter never had it. again, we talk about percentages, you know. i've got 5 million followers and there is probably one or two idiots a day, which isn't bad. that's better than the high street, you know. that's the wonderful thing about twitter. particularly as a comedian i had to actually meet these strange dangerous people but now i can learn about them from the safety of my house. >> [ laughter ] let's take a short break and come back and talk about your fascinating new project derrick which is getting rave reviews in america. better reviews than it had in britain when they were scenical and that's an interesting observation about the two cultures. i want to get into that with you after the break.

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this. >> his affection will kel me. >> his netflix original series "derrick." in britain there was sinisters received by the media in particular. i haven't detected that at all. they are taking it as americans have at face value. >> that's the big difference. i think the reviews eventually were good in england as here but what happened here was it didn't have that preseeing it review. >> right. >> in england there was a couple that said i haven't seen this yet but i'm not holding out hope. the bad review placed on not seeing it but that's the end of the article. >> how can you possibly review it? >> i had that once in a tabloid about banned from television. his lives discussed and talks about just all the events of the

holocaust, my friends went to see him and no, that's it. >> i've never seen him. >> yeah. >> tell me about derrick. he's a care worker and he's slightly work ward i guess you would describe him in terms of his intellect and so on. but what was the purpose of this creation? >> i wanted derrick. derrick is sort of based on those guys you see them there, sort of outsiders. he's not d-- it could be a trai spot. i'm like what is their home life like? you see them scruffy, you know. i made derrick like that, and douggie and not too bright because i wanted kindness to come along and trump everything. that was important. i wanted to see them coming. i didn't want it to be, you know, where it is a beautiful man with a beautiful girl and

hate each other but love each other by the end. you see it come -- >> you told the hollywood reporter, as you get older you realize the thing is being popular and you hit add less sense is being krefr then it's being funny and now it's about kindness. >> it's about kindness, yeah. and you know, again, i've written about what i know. it's based on experience, you know. everything i've done is from charter first. i had it way before the office and he was based on people that i had met growing up that wanted to be -- they wanted to be the center of attention. i watched a lot of documentaries, people becoming famous overnight and worked in an office for ten years. now with this, i had derrick the charter and i thought the perfect backdrop was a care home. all my family were care workers

growing up, my mom, my sister, my nieces now care workers. so i've got like 30 or 40 years of it. i wanted to leave that irony behind. originally derrick, i used the hunting more, to put satire against the rich and famous so he's going to say the wrong thing and that would be funny. i thought i had done that to death. i did the office about fame. extras avertly about fame. the golden globes, you know, in fame. i do this. you know, and i thought i wanted to return to normal people because most people you meet aren't johnny depp and brad p t pitt. well, they are with you. the rest of us, we meet more derricks and douggies. >> you tweeted i love so many americans were happy to inform me they are surprised i have a

kind streak. that's the reaction. wow, ricky gervais has kindness. >> they see me on chat shows like this chatting it out with a man in a pink tie and the golden globes and people forget even though you work under your own name, you're a more confident version of yourself and you're -- you know, your home life -- i've tried to keep my private life private. >> let's take another short break. i'll come back and talk to you about three things, iowa state giving gun permits to totally blind people which short on any level is funny and miley cyrus and twerking, i want to know if you tweak. >> oh, i'm do ing it now. >> are you? >> underneath, like a duck, the legs are going crazy.

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iowa is giving out gun permits to blind people, completely blind people that aren't allowed to drive cars. >> i've learned about this through one of your tweets, and i understand you thought this was a bad idea. >> well, what do you -- can you -- you love america. i love america. >> i said next they would say blind people shouldn't drive cars. i think people got to see the difference talking about as an equality issue. >> the constitutional right. >> yeah. >> would be damaged if -- and they gave an example if they were fully sighted and used a gun, just because they lost their sight, why should they lose the constitutional right to continue having a gun? >> yeah, well it's a difficult one, but the short answer is because they can't see what they are shooting. that's what i'd say. >> this is the thing. when i tweeted about this, british people who follow me thought i was making this up.

they thought it was a joke. they know about my gun campaign, but they thought it was a windup. people are not just applying for permits that are blind, they are getting permits and completely blind. >> yeah, i -- i -- yeah. it's strange. that is -- it's a strange law. but who -- who -- but hold on, wait a minute. so the constitution covers everyone, does it? >> yes, in fact it covers -- i'm a u.s. resident so i'm technically also covered by the constitution. that's why i'm allowed to criticize the second amendment about guns because of the first amendment of free speech. >> tell me you're not allowed to carry a gun. >> i would not be allowed to carry a gun here in new york, but i could carry one in dallas or anywhere, like in a walmart in houston. i can't by those little eggs with toys because they may choke me but where the kinder egg

would be sold in a british store, they have an ar-15 assault rifle. >> dear america, please let piers buy a kinder egg, but don't let him guy a gun. >> let's talk about the cultural difference. talk about the humor, derrick is a good example. the lack of criticism in americans allows people to take derrick at face value and see the charm of it, more sarcastic, took a bit more time to do that. what are the cultural differences that you pick up on? >> that is the big one. i think the big difference in between america and british people their positivity and it was reflected in the remake of the office. you know, steve carell's charter had to be a little bit more positive. the difference is in upbringing. americans are brought up to believe they can be the next president of the united states, and they sort of can. we're told it won't happen to

you, so don't bother. >> yeah, and i never really had that. i was, you know, born a very working class. my dad was a i could have everything as long as it was to do with school. and it was sort of like, i don't know, i always thought it would be okay. but i do know people that were asked not to go to university because their mom was ill or something and that was very sad. or it does you no good or leave school. and i think, oh, wow, how sad is that that your ambitions are squashed at such an early age. and i try and encourage everyone. i say it's never too late. i really try and say, just go for it. don't listen to people. everyone knows these amazing stories, but it doesn't seem to rub off on them. they seem to be beaten down. >> encouraging people, tina fey

and amy pohler are going to be doing the globes this year. your the king of the globes. they're doing it the second time. you did it three times? >> three times, yeah. >> what is the technique to handling that notoriously difficult crowd? >> i think worry about the tv audience. do it for them. i made the decision, there's 200 people in the room. do you bander to those people or the 200 million people watching at home? and for a comedian, no competition, you know? i think it's people being offended on other people's behalves. that's what happens. and a controversy, the word "controversy" makes people look at the headline, all right? then it's how controversial it is. if you say it enough people believe it is. i didn't think it was particularly controversial. if they went to see my standup their heads would explode. >> outrage like miley cyrus and her twerk. it was obviously done very deliberately by her to try to make that prove young stan, hannah montana to something else.

and it was brilliantly executed in my view. i found the outrage so fake. >> well, i find -- yeah. it's too easy to offend. anything you say someone will find it offensive. again, particularly in your case. but it's just too easy. why bother? you could be on the news every night. if you wanted to come out, get drunk and shout down a paparazzi's lens or come out here and say outrageous things all the time, i don't know what t cachet is in that. >> if i had the power to let you relive a moment from your entire career again, what would you choose? >> oh. the one that sprang to mind was the first golden globes. >> why? >> i don't know. because i shouldn't have won it. we were up there, a little show called "the office." no one had heard of us. i really -- i didn't even bother

listening to bbc america telling us who to thank. i thought we'll just make up the numbers here. it's a little trendy show. then i won for best actor and the show won it. then it all started. i think that was 2004. clint eastwood was overheard to say "who the [ mute ] is that." which is fantastic. >> what is the joke you would tell on your death bed? you can be as offensive as you like. you're dying. who cares? you're about to die. it doesn't matter how many people you offend. >> why does piers morgan wear a pink tie? >> what's the answer? >> [ mute ]. >> ricky gervais, i normally end interviews by saying what a pleasure it's been. but in your case -- [ mute ] [ laughter ] >> ricky gervais, seven episodes of derek on netflix.

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