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era for u.s. relations with iran? the newly elected president of iran is on his way to new york for the u.n. general assembly, but it is unclear whether president obama will meet with him. it could be an important first step after decades of animosity between the two countries, but it does come with great risks. we'll take you through it. >> speaking of the president or the search to be president, hillary clinton opening about her whole life, her daughter and, of course whether or not she plans to run for president. a revealing new interview. we will talk about it all. >> it is arguably one of the most annoying things for flying, turning off your electronics for landing. the faa is meeting this week. reportedly, they are set recommending changing those rules t. question, how far will they go? will cell phone calls and texting finally be allowed? we'll see. we want to take you right to
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kenya. more fires were shot in an upscale mall where least 69 people have died. the government says security forces have taken control of most of that mall. the attackers are believed to still be holding several people hostage. there is a report coming out right now that there have been hostages recently released. so let's get right to cnn's zain for the latest. vain. >> reporter: there was chaos. there was confusion, total catastrophe at kenya's west gate mall t. situation is extremely tense. ght now, i am standing along the emergency response team. the casualties have been coming through that gate. west gate mall, guys is about five minute's walk on that side. we have been hearing one or two explosions over a three-day
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seige. we have been hearing a lot of sporadic gunfire along the israelis and the kenyans. it is happening right now in the mall. we don't have any visibility to what is happening. this is normal for a special operation like this we are trying to understand the hostage situation. whether anyone has been rescued what exactly is happening. the military saying they have the red cross and officials saying they haven't seen any sign of release of hostages. we are trying to figure that out right now. in nairobi, what i can tell you is that helicopters are circleing and everybody is a little bit on edge to see what happens next. kate. >> all right. vain thanks, so much on the ground for us in ken yamplts back at home the fbi is involved that american citizens are actually taking part in the attack t. trail is leading investigators to the minnesota area in minnesota. good morning, chris. >> reporter: good morning, kate.
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yeah, there was a supposed twitter account that claimed two of the attackers are right here in minnesota, right now the fbi is trying to run down to prove or disprove whether or not that is true. i can tell you u.s. official, some in the administration have been raising alarm bells proving that somali american, mostly young men here in the community. this is the largest somali-american in the country. right now the fbi is working apart from this attack to try to stop them from recruiting request young men and having them come back here to the united states. we know that about 40 americans have joined al kataib. four in minneapolis. another u.s. official says a decision coming in the next few days about greater efforts to
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prevent al-s sm abaab recruiting here. al-ahabaab him here. palm, can you hear us? . >> i can. yes. >> all right paul, thank you very much. let's deal with the obvious. tell us what you can about al-shabaab about this group? >> well, al-shabaab is a somali group affiliated with al qaeda. it's been responsible for regional attacks in the past. it was carried out in uganda in 2010 at the world cup fine alleges night. this is the most avp ambitious plorkts the most am moschos, they frl the mumbai in 28. >> that attack was 66 hours long. this seige in kenya is in its third day now. so very ambitious attack from this group. the loader of this group has more closely aligned it with al
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qaeda in recent months and joined it with tra terrorist group. >> obviously, we want all causes for optimism on the ground. by all accounts, this seems this is less over than expected. what's your information? >> can you just repeat that, please, sorry? situation that ends as quickly as possible. but it does seem this situation is less under control than we were led to believe? >> well, that's absolutely right. there seem to have been teams of gunmen involved here and this is still an ongoing seize. this is still an ongoing hostage situation and the longer this lasts, the bigger propaganda victory for al-smahabaab. >> i had been there, they talk about an amphetamine they use and officials were saying it's not just what happens here.
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it's where the money is going. it sounded far fetched at the time. what does this mean? could there be a connection? >> well that, connection is by no means confirmed yet. but it wouldn't be a surprise because those around the 20 americans who were believed to with the al-shabaab group in somalia. there has been extreme groups from minneapolis to somalia. >> that has slowed to a trickle in the last couple of years, because the fbi have got on top of the issue. also this group al-shabaab becomes more extreme. it has become less popular in the somali communities of the united states, chris. >> the situation is usually exclusively male. is there any reason to believe that may change here? there may be female involvement on the attacker's side. >> well, there have been reports of possible female involvement. >> that would be some precedent. there was a seige in a moscow
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theatre about half a decade ago. there were women suicide bombers involved. there have also been female suicide bombers linked to al qaeda and iraq. so there is some precedent for this. >> that is not yet confirmed. chris. >> last question, a quick take on this one. is this just a target of opportunity or is what we are seeing here a new strategy to go after these types of civilian sites? >> i think they go through it, it is quite planned out. it really fits the ehimen al zawari playbook. t about a week ago. he put out strategic advice. he said you should hit western targets. well. they've hit western targets. you should avoid muslim casualties, they have since tried to avoid casualties. they say you should take hostages. well, they're taken hostages here as well. i think this is a thought out attack by al-shabaab.
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an attack against kenya. an attempt to raise the profile of this jihadist group in somali which has had a number of setbacks and has lost territory in somalia over the last year or so. >> paul, thank you very much for the analysis this morning. over to you. >> thanks so much. now, to a new showdown over gruns. president obama gave a eulogy sunday condemn whack he called a creeping resignation about gun violence. he stopped short it appeared for calling for new political battles, even if his opponents are ready for a fight. cnn's pamela brown has more on this. >> good morning to you, kate. it has been one week since 12 people were killed in the washington naval yard. we are hearing the debate over gun control yet again. on the one side, the nra calling for more guns. president obama saying the only way to prevent future mass
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shooting is change. president obama giving a passionate eulogy for the victims of last week's naval yard shooting and calling for a transformation of america's gun laws. >> i'm not accepting these shootings as inevitable but asking what can we do to prevent them from happening again and again and again. >> earlier in the day, nra president appeared on "meet the press" with a controversial take of what went wrong that day? >> the problem is there weren't enough good guys for cause. when the good guys got there, it stopped. >> hours apart and in vastly different parties, it was an attendance match of points, counterpoint. >> there ought to be a cheque to all of us as a nation and as a people. it ought to load to some sort of transformation. >> we need to look at letting the men and women that know firearms and are trained in them do what they do best, which is protect and survive.
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>> reporter: the president, once again, greeting americans after four other major mass shootings during his presidency. in ft. hood, texas, aurora, colorado and new town, connecticut, last december. what is clear, this debate will continue with both sides still unwilling to yield. >> this is the change that we need. it is a change overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans. >> we will have this discussion told. it's on other channels. when the camera goes off, nobody is going to do anything. >> and he also talked about how mental health records are not in the system as a part of background checks with purchasing guns. the president said the u.s. is not inhere entally prone to mental health issues, but it is easier to get a gun than other countries with strict gun laws like the u.k. or australia. it says it will happen once americans have had enough.
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>> thanks, so much for that. a lot of news for you this morning. let's go to mikaela for the latest. the search is on for two crew members of a navy chopper that went down in the red sea. they were operating with the guided missile when it went down d. navy is now investigating. but it did say the crash was not due to any sort of hostile activity. a gunfight in michigan. three people are dead. at least four others are injured with bullet wounds. police say one victim died after she was shot and run over by a driver trying to make a get away. one person is now in custody. police say there was a shooting in june at the very same place. a pretrial meeting today for accused boston marathon bomber joke joke dzhokhar tsarnaev. they will consider whether to seek the death penalty.
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ultimately the decision to seek the death penalty rests on u.s. attorney general eric holder. an unscheduled landing for a pilot in chicago. check it out. the pilot was flying over the lake front when part of the plane's destabilizer broke. they say it started to shake so violently. he thought it would break in midair. it landed right there. fortunately, no one was hurt. the faa is now investigating. a big night in hollywood the biggest names in hollywood gathering in l.a. last night for the prime time emmy awards. "breaking bad" took home the award for outstanding drama series. jeff daniels getting an award. claire danes set the award for her work with "homeland." once again, "modern family" winning for outstanding comedy series. she will bring us the full
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report, television's big notice. >> it's dangerous, though, no matter the reason. >> absolutely. >> when you take on somebody's turf wars. >> we will focus on that. >> i will focus on the impartial part. >> focus on the love. >> they're both tougher than i am. quickly, simply send you over to weather. keeping track of all the latest. good morning. >> good morning. a little chilly. i don't know about you guys, frost advisory, no thank you. >> that is dealing on our first day of temperatures. yes, 23 seen the 40s and 50s. not too bad, considering we will be slowly warming up. unfortunately, though, today, it's cooler than where we were today. 73 goes down to 64 degrees. here's the rebound. we are talking about 70s by about the middle of the week. we will stay there. it will feel very good. we had the cold front. we had one night of rain, in the southeast, it hung all weekend long it is still there. take a look at the amount of rain they were dealing with.
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about two-and-a-half inches of rain anywhere from louisiana all the way in through florida and, yes, it's in the forecast. we'll tell you we are talking about that stationary front in place. behind it, another several inchs to deal with. suddenly one overnight of lain rain. >> no kidding. thanks, so much. >> ingrid going for the mixed look today, both conjuring a sense of sun and also some autumn colors. >> thank you. >> very nice. >> it seems like we need transition now. coming up next on "new day," iran's new president wants to meet with president obama. after ice cold relations ready to resume diplomatic talks at the highest level. >> slow down. you want to listen to this very carefully. some of the best news out of the faa in a long time. changing the rules for electronic devices on booshd commercial airlines.
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against it. nick, great to have you here. >> thank you. israel, of course, cannot a big fan because iran's position for so long has been that israel shouldn't exist in regions. the new president, a lot calmer and positive in what he has been saying. the question is, is barack obama prepared to take this big gamble? atop high stakes call this week for barack obama at the u.n., should he tame a bold gamble and meet with the president of the state pretty much against everything the u.s. stands for. iran after decades of animosity the great satan to iran and iran part of the u.s.'s old axis of evil may be a thaw. as if to set that new tone a public information to meet came from iran's president on twitter. hassan rouhani said he was ready
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for dialogue. while no meeting is set, the white house says it my be time. >> we have no meetings scheduled. we communicate with the iranians through a variety of methods as we said in the past. president obama and president rouhani exchanged letters. >> reporter: president rouhani plans to meet with the u.s. perhaps a short one-on-one with a bomber is not that farfetched. since he took office, obama said he would welcome diplomacy with iran. >> we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fists. >> reporter: but there are many including israel the question how sincere iron i iran's diplomatic overture exists.
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remind them one year ago, iran's last president railed against the u.s. and israel. but being very limited diplomacy for washingtonitari and theehra. it will be tough to answer feempb obama is bold enough to meet this man. there is so much potentially that iran could help u.s. in the foreign policy in the middle east. but at the moment, a syrian problem, of course, iran's own nuclear program. is this meeting going to happen? well, we'll get more of an idea after tuesday when president rouhani meets with the french president. still many questioning how sincere is this friendliness from iran are or they stalling for more time, though, chris? >> something you have to entertain, you have to stick by
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your old friends, also in kenya, have you to have a broader net. >> it comes down to that trust. mouch how much can you trust? actions speak louder than words. >> such a big clang in the year. the iranians against everything american and pro american. now suddenly everyone befriends. a lot of specks. >> trust, but verify. >> flying in more than one scenario. thanks, great to see you. coming up next on "if you day," the possible government shutdown quickly approaching little if any progress over the weekend as members of congress point blame. our political gut check coming up after the break. >> the emmys have news, tributes to the stars of the silver screen. we will let you know who took home top honors and who was snubbed.
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. >> welcome back to "new day." some of your electronic devices could soon get the green light for use on airplanes during takeoff and landing. right? come on, that's good news for a monday. >> how far does it go? that's what everyone says. >> you see, earn everyone is waiting for. including hackers, it appears. we will tell you what hackers will do to keep you secure. how to get around the scanner
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already. we will see. >> we have breaking news out of kenya. >> that situation is developing by the minute. we want to bring you the freshest information right now. smoke is seeing rising above, we will show you a live look at the scene now. kenya's military is sending out a tweet. they have taken over most of the building. al-shabaab killed people and they are believed to still be holding ten people hostage. our cnn crew had to scramble to get out of harm's way. back here at home, president obama says the united states cannot accept last week's killings at the washington navy yard as inevitable. speaking at a memorial for the 12 victims sunday, the president
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says the shooting should be a shock to all of us. it leads to gun violence in united states. they argue there weren't enough armed guards on patrol at the navy yard. the executive vice president told "meet the press" they hoped when the god guys with guns got there, it stopped. slight images taken in late august show signs of a probable tefk and you have heard of rain delays within are you traveling, right? how about, not traveling, bee delays? yes, check it out. not a fan of bees, either. they invaded the outfield and a bull pen. officials had to stop plays
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twice. they blasted them out with a fire extinguisher and they carried on. look at that. that's crazy. whew. >> that's the video we needed to see right there. >> we got it for you. you ask, we deliver. >> the story takes on a whole new dimension. >> i know, when you' at the bows. all right, let's move on to a different swarming set of bows. it's time now for a political gut check. over the weekend, a blame game between members of congress. just seven days, count 'em before a government shutdown. now the battle 2009 funding the government and defunding the health care overall moves to the democratic controlled senate. here is break it down is the executive editor of "the daily beast" in for john king this morning. i don't think there was much wisdom for one over the weekend. >> that will be great, coming to the minds of washington. groundhog day again with the
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shutdown. >> at this point they are blaming each other, what seems to be a foregone conclusion, there anyway you see the resulting in anything other than exactly what we think will happen? >> we are headed towards that clip. republican leadership doesn't want this to happen. responsible republicans realize it it would be disastrous politically and doesn't have any upside for them. in private, they are calling for pushing for the jihadis. they're going to lock for a way out of this. it will as you say they will pass something if it overcomes this filibuster threat. then it goes to the house. that's where the timing gets tight. >> many republicans don't see the upside in this fight.
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more downside, one republican sees upside. senator ted cruz has become the champion of this strategy. where is the upside for him? i'm hearing privately and maybe not so privately, a lot of criticism of him. >> yeah, not so privately. a lot of republicans are starting to speak out and telling you this guy is selling you a false bill of goods. it begins as a movement, ends up as a racket. there is a racket element to this defund move him on tv athd, people building their own lists, that's what's behind a lot of it, ted cruz, pushing this. it's incredible t. argument ted cruz is making as they said, kate, is the republicans should filibuster the bill he supports from the house to avoid a second round having the obamacare cut out. so that logic is meeting with the logic who say, look, we are supposed to be the 345ture body taking the along view. it is not meeting a great reception from many fellow republicans. >> as it stands today, the
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senate will take it up. >> absolutely, a big one. >> a big one. great to see you. thanks, john. we want to get you back to what's going on in kenya. you will see there is smoke coming out of the west gate mall area. crews had to scramble and now we're getting a little of an idea of what's going on inside, our zain verjee is there. zain, what is the latest? >> reporter: >> reporter: we're in a situation that is dangerous out here. we are only a five or ten minute walk or so on that side, which is where the west dpaet mall is. >> that is where al qaeda and al-shabaab are holding hostages. we do not know exactly accident happened. ten minutes ago, there was a major explosion, plumes of plaque smoke rising above this
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area of west land and parklands. we know an operation has been under way for a number of hours. there is no specific information of what we have been getting inside. there have been bursts of gunfire causing all of us to run that way, when it settles down, we run down to see what's happening. so i put on my helmet and flap jacket. we are all watching and waiting to see that. gate over there is where the casualties come in. so anyone who was rescued, who was hostage, they will all be evaluated. they will come in to where i am, where you can see the ambulance services are, the rescue and recovery is here t. real action is taking place on the ground just a short few paces away from the behind those buildings and behind this gate that we are in. so we are going for the wait and see what happens, but right now, we have from the red cross 69 people dead, 175 wounded. it's not clear what the hostage situation is.
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the condition or even if they are alive. so we're monitoring to see what happens here and we'll bring it to you when we get it. >> all right, zain i zain, safety first. it's god to see you have your cover and vest on. just to bring everybody up to date. we have been told this situation is largely under control. it does not seem to be that way right now. there is smoke overhead. it does not lock like dispersion or tear gas. it has been used to deal with crowds in the area. >> that smoke does not look like that. that looks like fire smoke. helicoptering have been pushed away by gunfire from inside, we areled to. hostages still inside that mall. that's why that triage area is still set up. obviously, authorities are planning for more wounded to be coming out of the building. that's the latest from the kenyan mall situation right now. >> another reminder. she had the death count on how many people have been injured. this has been dragging on since saturday. however many are in there now are being held hostage in there. we'll get back there as news continues to develop. coming up next on "new day,"
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the faa reportedly set to relax rules on using gadgets in flight. not all of them. we will break down the new dpliens in a second. >> the emmy, did your favorite stars take home the trophies? we are live in tlaengs e los angeles. we will let you know.
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. >> typhoon yusagi blamed for 25 deaths in hong kong. >> it was billed as the most powerful storm, tiemp usagi
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brings destruction to southern china. at least 25 people were killed. tens of thousands were eevaluated. winds of 100 miles an hour lashed the coast. they closed businesses and schools and hong kong stock exchange. >> to berlin now, andrea merkel is celebrating a historic election. more on. >> reporter: christian democrats celebrated well into the night in berlin. andrea merkel won by a landslide. we expect a lot of continuity especially when it comes to combating the eurozone crisis. she will have to enter into a new coalition. back to you, kate.
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>> thanks, so much. are you ready for this? i know this is something that has cuomo hot under the collar. i want to know what you think is hot under the collar as well. >> as well. frequent flyers. listen up, you may soon be able to use your ipad or kindle during takeoff and landing. according to new york times, the faa is expected to relax its rules this week. the new policy, however, does not apply to all gadgets. >> you thought it was cart zpe blanche on anything. this is expected at this point. it looks like this wheels are moving forward. it looks like you will be able to use your kind him. listen to podcasts and watch videos. i you won't be able to make a phone call or send or receive
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e-mails or text or use wifi. i'm talking about 20 minutes on takeoff and lanning. keep if mind these are just recommendations at this point. we will see if it goes into effect. in terms of who they talk to, safety, transportation, safety, they want to make sure that everybody has had a chance do weigh in before this final decision is made. >> that's what the faa has done. it's put together this advisory panel of industry experts to sort of weigh in on what is safe and what is not to use on those minutes that you take off and land this has been a process. a tug of war the pressure from u us. they say they could interfere with cockpit instruments. the interesting thing is there is no conclusive evidence,
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coming up with these possible recommendations, there is no conclusive evidence that those electronic devices really do interfweer flight controls, which is kind of interesting. there is one example given in that new york times report. between a two-year period only 21 instances of a suspicion of interfering were reported. >> hold the phone for now, cuomo, the beginning as i would like to say. >> thanks, so much. >> read through it. >> human needle thank you for nothing. you are looking at that. >> that smoke is believed to be fire. we don't understand what is going on in there. we know there is gunfire and still hostages. the situation is not over.
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>> fans coming up, tv honors its biggest and best and brightest. pays tribute to big stars that have gone too soon. we will' some of the emotional emmy moments from last night.
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. >> we want to take you to kenya.
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there was a huge explosion heard over the west gate mall a. triage area is still being set up. shots being heard. we have cnn's zain verjee on the ground. crews have been forced to scramble from time to time. zain, what's the latest? >>, plumes of black smoke are rising. there was one before that appeared equally as large. we don't know who has detonated this, whether this is end of the operation of the kenyan military have been conducting now. inside west gate mall. a last stand. we don't know what this means for the hostages, whether they were able come out, whether they were res fewed, whether they were able to get away or whether
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they have been hurt or have died. we are trying to figure out what the situation is. i can tell you that everyone here where i am standing in the emergency services area along with the red cross, ambulances, the rescue and response is very tense. they are waiting to see if any casualties are received f. they get any, they'll come through that gate there. the last couple of days we seen police helicopters swirling around perhaps as a tactic. but they started to circle now as well as a small plane. so that is the latest here from the city of nairobi. kenyans are terrified. kenyans are gripped by this. you cannot believe that this was a mall that is woven into the fabric of our every day. there s this is where we mote for coffee and our friends. this is a popular mall, diplomats, expat, u.n. stars. all those people live around
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this area. this is the middle class area of nairobi. that's on the outskirts of downtown, the city center. west gate mall has been a potential target in the past. but this is now a three-day seige. we don't know whether it's coming to an end and what exactly that black plume of smoke means. chris and kate. >> thanks, for the reporting and what she is saying about being a familiar pace for westerners. we are told exactly where it was picked. the people you saw running out of there, those are not hostages. there are support groups. that was that people movement. they move to safer locations. that's what you are seeing there. it's not an exodus from the mall. we will keep you upditted as we get more information. >> let's move to a much lighter moment. now to the prime time emmy awards last night. it has caught people's attention in los angeles. it was a night to celebrate the
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biggest names and for hollywood to remember some very beloved stars of the past. let's go live to cnn's michelle turner in los angeles. good morning, michelle. >> is it morning? i don't know if i have been asleep. >> probably not. >> a very short night for you, my dear. >> very much. so hey, guy, by all accounts, it's been a god year for television. last night's awards showed just that. no show cleaned up. the honors were spread around, which leads most critics to believe there was a lot of god to go around. a playful combination of front row banter. >> twerk it. >> i'm not twerking. >> that would be degrading. >> we would be degradeful. >> so, neil patrick harris kicked off the 65th prime time emmy awards a. night of songs ♪ the emmy awards are three hours long. >> dance and celebration. left some emmy winners like the fuseroom's jeff daniels. >> i ooshlly don't win anything.
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>> and nurse jack weaver nervously surprised. >> i got to go, good bye. >> tony hail and julia loo weiss dreyfus had fun in character. >> i'd like to thank my family. >> claire danes and jim parsons were visibly moved. >> it's so silly to be emotional, isn't snit. >> tv icon bob newhart first ever win for guesting on the "big bang" brought the 6,000 guests to their feet t. show singled out five heart felt memorials, including sopranos star james gandolfini. >> it's jim the man the dear man i will miss most of all. >> cory monteeth. >> his death is a tragic reminder of the senseless destruction that is brought on by addiction. >> gary david goldberg who produced both "family ties" and
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spin city. >> i wish it wasn't necessary. i wish gary was still with us. but sorry. >> reporter: "modern family" won its fourth straight series. >> this a a two hander. you are only as good -- >> reporter: but in the end, the hbo biopick was second to none. >> ♪ luck be a lady tonight. >> reporter: gaining 11 statues in all. >> thank you. >> one of the big story lines we were watching last night is what would netflix win? they were nominated for 14 emmys. a win would make history. they did just that. all week the talk has been even one win in a major category would be a coup for netflix. the chances are, they're pretty happy this morning. i tell yougies, among
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hollywood's big wigs on the carpet. i was asking what show disstars love. it was for original series for netflix and the times they are achanging. >> times are achanging. their business models or gentlemanbles seems to have worked. and we'll see if there is more of it. thanks, so much, michelle. >> i'm paying more attention to award shows like the emmys. they matter, what they decide to celebrate shapes the culture. >> a good point. >> i think we could use some. >> coming up next on "new day," president obama versus the nra again, both dug in their heels, could it usher in changes? >> as you just saw, we were taking a live picture out of kenya. we will keep doing that. why? explosions and gunshots heard the situation not over. we don't have an explanation for the smoke you are seeing on your screen. we have a correspondent live at the scene. we will continue to monitor the situation out of nairobi as it
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unfolds. please, stay with "new day."
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. >> oh, this song, two decades, they trembled in fear within they heard this entrance song play through the speakers at yankee's stadium, yesterday as a part of the farewell, me tallica showed up for a surprise performance. let's find out about the events. it was fitting. yeah, it definitely was.
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rivera came in from the bull pen. you pretty much knew the gym was over. for the first time, you got to hear his song play live in center field. take a look. after playing, they both showered rivera with farewell gifts on his special day. he came in and pitched a scoreless ninth inning. unfortunately the giants beat the yankees 2-1. for the nfl, andrew luck played at stamford before both men laid e made the leap to the nfl. the student schooling the teach ever. luck did it in the air and on the ground to lead the colts to the shocking 27-7 win over the 49ers. the colts are now 2 and 1 on this season. new york football fans are either happy or sad this morning, depending whether they're jets or giants fans. the giants were absolutely man handled by the panthers, losing
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38-0. they're 0 and 3, their worst start since bill clinton was president. the jets on the other hand, they once again found a way to get a w. i'm sure they had a team record 20 penalties. hey, chris, a win is a win. they're now 2 and 1 on the season and, guys, i'm sure if you ask anyone in new york if they were asked before this season, what scenario that could not happen the giants are 0 and 3 and the jets 2 and 1 is something they would have zbled i beg to differ, captain handsome. i gelt felt the jets were 'and 0. >> he's a believer, andy. he's a believer. >> reporter: yes. another interesting factor, guys, the first time in nfl history the giants are 0 and 3 as well as the redskins. >> all right. that's an interesting distinction. i wish you hadn't seth said it on my air. >> the top of the hour, which means it's time for the top news. [ music playing
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[ music playing ] >> it's on my head. they protected me. >> breaking news, there are still hostages in that kenya mall. more gunshots, the fbi now investigating whether some of the attackers are american. we have the latest. not again the president's impassioned plea. a new call in the wake of the navy yard shooting t.nra's leadership also speaking out, calling for more good guys with guns as a solution. hillary speaks, the revealing interview about what she is saying about running for president and how she is spending her days. >> your "new day" starts right now. >> this is "new day" with questions cuomo, kate baldwin and mikalah perez. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news we are following. welcome back to "new day." it's monday, september 23rd in the east. happening right now explosions
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and gunfire as smoke rises above the upscale mall in nairobi. this is a live look right now at the very active scene. you see the smoke right there. the deadly drama unfolding as authorities are now saying kenya's forces have rescued more hostages and are closing in on the rest of the attackers. 69 people have been killed. 175 wounded since the seige began. saturday,let get straight to cnn's zain verjee who is live on the ground where all of this is unfolding right now. what's the latest, zain? >> reporter: everyone here in nairobi is on a razor's edge. i'm standing just a short distance away from the west gate mall that is under seige in its third day. i just want to show you up in the sky the plume of smoke that had been rising over these buildings. it was the second explosion in about 15 minutes that had occurred.
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it was a stronger explosion than the last one. residents of this area are terrified. also my parents live around this area, too, and i've told them to stay homohome and not move. people are hearing gunfire from all places. there are some commercial buildings, but nobody has gone to work today t. situation is extremely tense. 69 hostages, according to, excuse me, 69 victims according to red cross have been killed. the situation with the hostages when i spoke to the red cross was unclear. they said that they have nothing new to add today. there are people being held in helicopters circling this area. two military police helicopters and i see one small plane now going around the area.
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we have positioned in the community center and they basically aloud their land here, this piece of property to be used by anyone who needs it, emergency services, res cues, recovery, police, paramedic, paramilitary, special forces from different parts of the world. anyone who needs a base to operate from. i just want to give you a sense of this area as well, okay. we are in a pretty middle class area and it's partly commercial but there are also a lot of residences around here. people would be glued to their televisions, so emphof them would have lost or known of family and friends. relatives who are visiting who may have died or been injured in west gate mall. this is a place that everybody goes to, really. it's like when you come to kenya. everyone wants to go on safari or the beach. when you are in nairobi, you go to west gate mall and have coffee at the trendy art cafe, which is where the shooting
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first started. we will continue to bring you the latest. chris, kate. >> all right. thank you very much, zain. obviously, it's a fluid situation going on there. very heavy capabilities on the ground because of the large unknown. authorities still don't know how many people they are dealing with inside or what the situation is. we will monitor it as the situation comes in. cnn learned three of the attackers in kenya may have ties to the united states. we want to go to cnn's chris lawrence. he is in minneapolis, which is the lo custer that the authorities are looking at right now. chris, what itself the latest? >> reporter: that's right. federal agents are running down leads trying to determine if any of those attackers are american. >> that is what a group claiming to be al-shabaab posted on the twitter account. we knowths one of the only al qaeda affiliates actively recruiting here in the united states. this area is the home to the country's largest somali population. >> that community has been fighting off al-shabaab
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recruitment. they haven't always been successful. over the last several years, 40 young men have journeyed overseas to fight for al-shab b al-shabaab. most of them are from this minneapolis area. in fact, there was a recruiting video put out last month in which a man from minnesota compared fighting in somalia to disneyland for jihadists and urged other muslims to come there. fbi source is telling cnn the fbi has been working with the somali american community here to try to prevent any of those young men from coming back here to the united states to commit acts of terrorism here. kate. >> all right. chris lawrence for us. chris, we'll get back to you. so this really does beg the question here at home, how safe are soft targets like malls in the united states? joining me now ask cnn national security analyst fran townsend. we want to get to those questions. >> that comes to every american's minds when you see this unfolding.
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first the ongoing situation in nairobi. we have people on the ground, seeing gunfire, hearing gunfire, seeing smoke. they're hearing explosions. this has been dragging on since saturday. what do you make of this situation? >> well, i'm not surprised. the kenyan authorities are trying to take control of it. they want to bring it to an end. we saw the same thing at the oil facility. often our partners will go about these hostage situations more aggressively, take it on, confront it in a way we are reluctant to do here in the united states. there are reasons for. that i'm not surprised, we heard reports the kenyans were getting assistance from the israelis. this is what they do. this is what the israeli forces know how to do. i'm quite sure they are helping to advice. >> we have learned that part of the mall is owned by companies in israeli. so there is that coordination, cooperation there. what do you also make of the fact, you hear of al-shabaab, these one off attacks, suicide car bombs, that type of thing.
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this is being described as fist indicate in its planning and tactics. does that surprise you? >> it doesn't. this has the remnants of mumbai, where you have small teams that go in with what we call light arms, guns, not sophisticated weapons. they're trained. and they understand who you to go into a situation, take control of it and, of course, their goal is not sort of to trade when we think in a western sense of hostages, what they're looking for is a platform. so it explains why the kenyan government wants to take that platform away from them and bring there to a quick end. >> and then for folks who aren't knowing what a soft target is, why it matters, so why target a mall and how is something similar happening here in the united states? >> the difference between a hard target, you think of an airport, a federal building, a hard perimeter, you got to go through a security screening. even in our building, a soft target has many entrances and exits. there is no sort of hard
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perimeter by which you could screen for security purposes, so it's difficult to protect. think hotels, malls, any sort of open facility. very difficult to protect. because you got so many entry and exit points. look, this is malls, for example, and soft targets here in the united states have been a concern for a decade. i can remember the 2004 election cycle during the conventions, police authorities and the fbi talking to local hotel providers. and so, we have been, the fbi has been focused on this with their state and local partners and the department of homeland security worked very closely with the private sector to try and harden these as best as you can. it's very difficult. so there is the question, of course, of who is al-shabaab, post-specifically, who are the people taking part in this specific attack. we are hearing reports that it's not just men. there is actually a white woman that is possibly taking part in this. does there fit kind of the description and the profile of who is part of al a bab?
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>> well, we have seen, al-shabaab has been going through real changesch they were pushed recently out of southern somalia. there lab an intern am fight between a more extreme, look, al-shabaab is an extremist group. >> right. >> there are more extreme elements even within that group. it's clear now that this more extreme element is taking control. remember, they had relationships not only to al qaeda central, but also to al qaeda affiliates in the region, al qaeda islamic -- and the peninsula across the red sea. so this is a group that sort of pushed its control out beyond somalia's borders. kennia let's remember, there was the attack around the world cup a couple years ago. so this is a group that sort of is reconstituting itself and exerting its influence and capabilities. >> is this going to be kind of the al qaeda connection group that now is going to be on the forefront of everyone's mind? is al-shabaab the latest,
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biggest threat do you think? >> yoevenlths i think still the bigger groups that have moved themselves and actually tried to target and attack american interests both at the homelands and around the world will remain at the top of the list. i think al-shabaab exerting its influence beyond somalia's borders is gaining attention. >> real quick the surprise news the fbi is involved, investigating possible connections to american citizens as a part of this group. they are now investigating these allegations that there were americans that could have been a part of this? >> the last few years, a big threat. the fbi understood and has been working to prevent sons an daughters from being recruited. they have been very successful. this has been an ongoing effort. so it doesn't surprise me about the fbi's efforts here still troubling. >> absolutely. fran, thanks so much. the developing situation continues. with refollowing it very closely. now, back to chris. >> we want to bring you back home now. it was almost exactly a week atwo the five yafrd massacre
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happened. of course, it has sparked debate about gun control, two different ideas for how to stop attacks in the future. president obama calling for more gun control as the nra calls for more guns in the right hands. speaking at a memorial for the victims of the navy yard shootings, the president says the united states can't accept such killings as inevitable. >> as you point out, chris, it has been one week since 12 people were tragically killed at a shooting at the washington navy yard where the ongoing debate over gun control in this country yet again on one side the nra president calling for more guns in the right hands. on the other, president obama saying the only way to prevent future mass shootings is change. president obama getting a passionate eulogy for the victims of last week's naval yard shooting and calling for a transformation of america's gun laws. >> i'm not accepting these shootings as inevitable but
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asking what can we do to prevent them from happening again and again and again. >> reporter: earlier in the day, vice president wayne lapierre appeared on "meet the press" with a controversial take of what went on that day. >> the problem was there weren't enough good guys with guns. when they got there, it stopped. >> reporter: hours apart in vastly different settings larks pierre and the president's comments were almost a tennis match of point-counterpoint. >> it ought to be a cheque to us as a nation and people. it ought to lead to some sort of transformation. >> we need to look at the men and women that know firearms and trained in them do what they do best, which is protect and survive. >> reporter: the president, once again, grieving with americans after 24 hour u four other major mass shootings during his presidency n. ft. hood, texas, tucson, and connecticut in new town last december. what's clear, this debate will continue with both sides still
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unwilling to deal. >> it's the change that we need. it's a change overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans. >> we are going to have this discussion today. it's on other channels. when the camera goes off, nobody is going to do anythingch. >> and lapierre also talked about how mental health records are not in the system for background checks for purchasing guns. the president said in his speech yesterday the u.s. is not inherently prone to mental health issues, but it's easier to get a gun than other countries like the u.k.. >> we sure see mental health issues in every one of these. >> as we saw it there. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. another big story out of washington. right now, we are one week from a potential government shutdown and neither side is giving up much ground at this point. republicans are still plit within their own party. some insisting on defunding the president's health care law.
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democrats say that's nothing more than posturing as the senate is now preparing to take up the issue. senior white house correspondent is here with more on what the shutdown could mean for you as well as politics. >> with everything else going on, there is still the possibility of a shutdown. president obama comes to new york this morning to deal with top lip lomatic priorities. you can expect the president to continue to turn up the heat on republicans who are threatening to shut down the government. now, just seven days and countling to a government shutdown and texas gop senator ted cruz is holding his ground, still defunds obamacare or bust. >> if the majority will run them over with a train the minority has the ability to stop them trot question of the week is whether democrats and anti-shutdown republicans furious with cruz can stop him from blocking any new spending bill in the senate that funds health care reform. >> tactics and strategies ought to be based on what the real world is.
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we do not have the political power to do this. >> this is about running for a president with ted cruz. this isn't about meaningful statesmanship. >> reporter: if the government shuts down, some programs would continue like social security payments, but a third of federal employees would be furloughed, national parks closed and pay collection the soldiers would be delaying. >> this is totally irresponsible, scompleetly juvenile and legislative arson. >> reporter: aids to the president says he will beef up his defense of obamacare ail week, starting with bill clinton tuesday. he will keep up the pressure on shutdown supporters. >> we're not going to allow anyone to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people just to make an ideological point. >> blue the president won't have much time for tuth budget battles, me is set to meet with a slew of heads of state t. shutdown showdown will likely be waiting for him when he returns to washington. guys, we have heck leg as another deadline coming up on
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october 1st, those health insurance marketplaces start on october 1st. a week from tomorrow. he's going to have another event on thuray, to continue to highlight that. so his calendar is getting fuller and fuller and fuller. less time too deal with the showdown over the shutdown because there is so much on his plate right now. >> the debt ceiling right after that in mid-october. this is up against one deadline after another. it means in washington, especially in capitol hill a. deadline is necessary to get anyone to do anything. >> crisis is the you in normal. they continue to play along with this script. the president. he knows that. that's why he is going to be up here dealing with the heads of state at the united nations, knowing that these guys in washington will take care of. that i will be up here dealing with this. all of that will be waiting for him when he gets down to d.c.. >> great to see you. >> great to see you. >> you bet. a lot of news this morning. let's get to mikaela for the latest. >> here we go, two navy crew members missing after their helicopter crashed into the red
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sea. three other crew members were rescued. officials say the helicopter was trying to take off or land when it crashed. the cause is now under chretien. uss them nemitz is leading the rescue mission. shots rang out early sunday morning outside the elk's charity lodge. two men were killed. a woman was shot and she died when she was hit by a car fleeing the scene t. suspect that they have in custody is facing weapons charges. he was already wanted on an unrelated warrant. president obama will be in new york today for the 68th u.n. general assembly. during his speech tomorrow, he is expected rather to argue that syria has a limited window to keep its end of the deal on turning over its chemical weapons. u.s. officials are hoping the u.n. quickly passes a resolution to back up the deal. vice president joe biden, meanwhile, will survey colorado's flood damage today
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with colorado governor. the associated press reporting transportation officials have now reopened some of the state highways in the after math of those rajiing flood water. sunday he got a first hand look at the damage to oil containers. and finally, i would like to introduce you to the internet's newest feline sensation. his name is sir stuffington. check him out in a cute pirate get-up. this is the thing. it's not just a cute story. it's a story of survival. sir stuffington and his siblings wound up in an organ shelter at six weeks old. they were beat up. he particularly. he was suffering from a damaged jaw and missing an eye. thanks to some incredibly kind volunteers at the animal shelter and a foster parent who took all three kittens in. he is not only doing much better, he is also an online celebrity. his facebook page garnered 24,000 likes. they called him sir stuffington, when they found him mpb, he
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looked like a stuffed animal with the stuffing out of him. he was in terrible shape. so it's been kind of fun to see how the survival story and the fact that he's become this little internet sensation and garnered all this support and hopefully the much needed funds for the an million shelter. they struggle. >> you got to help. appreciate it. let's have a little bit. might we be close you were coming towards an autumn color? >> i will go with dark pa roons. i will say springing. >> i was asleep. very, very true, kate. >> i think the the big story this week is the latest huge cold front that went through. for most people, it was while you were asleep unless you were going big saturday night t. rain came. sunday, a huge temperature drop. cold air is in place. freeze warnings this morning. a lot of 40s and 50s even at this hour. so we pretty much know if you are starting off your morning cool. it will be cool in the afternoonle cooler than it was
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yesterday. for all of you complaining yesterday, a little chill is still out there. boston, you are going down from 73 to 64 today. keep in mind, you have to put it in perspective. temperatures are rebounding. by the middle of the week, we will have 70s. if you were in the southeast, that cold front didn't exit like it did in the northeast. i stay and it stayed all weekend long. so they have been dealing with rain for a couple of days. about a good two-and-a-half inches of rain, u.n. dating new orleans all the way to florida. i wish i had better news for you. of course i never do, right. we have that stationary front hanging out. another cool front, as soon as you release one front. another two to four inches, yay. finally cool air here. >> summer is officially over. >> 100%. >> thanks, deed ra. coming up next on "new day," we are continuing to monitor the hostage situation in nairobi. gunshots, explosions, smoke billowing there. back live to kenya in just a
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moment. but also ahead, hillary clinton hasn't said much since she left the state department. now, she is opening up a little bit more about her future plans. of course the question, is she considering a run for the white house? >> i got a bigger question. is this fingerprint thing you were trying to impress me with last weekend one more thing for hack tories get after? they are telling me this is one of the best iphone 5 features. why security experts are pointing the finger at that fingerprint scanner. i knew it was too good to be true. we went out and asked people a simple question:
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how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪
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>> welcome back to "new day." hillary clinton is the run away for the next democrat of niece united states. she's been very quiet about it. however now the talkers are
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talking about her latest interview, the most revealing since she left office they say. here is cnn's jessica yelp within what's the buzz? >> reporter: in her first interview since leaving officer, former secretary of state hillary clinton tells new york magazine she wrestles with the idea of running for president. i do, but i'm both pragmatic and realist ig, she says. i will continue to weigh what the factors are that would influence me making a decision. after living on what she calls this high wire for 20 years, she says she's now enjoying ordinary every day pleasures. living in new york with former president clinton. we laugh with our dogs. we watch stupid movies. we take long walks, go for a swim. apparently talking about 2016 is not on their list of favorite things. i don't think even he is focused on that right now, she says. >> i think she'd be the first to tell you that there is no such thing as a done deal ever by
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anybody. but i don't know what she's going to do. >> reporter: really? clinton's allies are focused on 20 skep. they readily point to the days she has grown since then senator clinton became runner up in 2008. jo hagan interviewed friends of hillary for his article. >> she is more comfortable in her own skin. she's more independent, her own entity. >> reporter: long time aid is quoted as saying she doesn't repeat her mistakes, she analyzes what went wrong here. translation, if she runs, 2016 won't look like 2008. >> that if she does, she will win and when she becomes president, she'll be one of the best equipped people to enter the white house in a very long time. >> reporter: just to be safe the political action committee ready for hillary has raised more than a million dollars and the would be candidate is staying in the public eye. this week, she'll be front and center in her new role at the krnt global initiative.
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at the clinton foundation event this week, her events will include a panel mod rated by our own sanjay gupta. you you can expect her to make an appearance when former president clinton and president obama talk health care. >> the interview will give us plenty to talk about for months to come. >> it's so enticing, because what hillary represents as the potential first female president is huge, but you also have to remember, with all that yip yap that everyone, including myself is doing, they build you up in the media in anticipation of these events. she is very aware of that. now it's all good, you are the prumtive favorite. you should do it. she knows the moment she enters the race. >> changes. >> yep, build you up to tear you down. >> well, wait and see. let fought get ahead of ourselves, which i guess we already have. >> enjoy the ride. part of the job. >> coming up next on "new day,"
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we will take you straight back to kenya, where we are following the breaking news there, a dramatic scene unfolding in nairobi. explosions, smoke, happening as you can see it at the mall under seige. we will take you there live to get the latest. >> and two days. that's how long it took hackers to get around the new iphone's fancy security features. they leave apple red faced. wait until you hear what they're using. their intelligence against counter intelligence is intelligence. we'll tell you when we come right back. as if the weight of the world is resting on your face. but sudafed gives you maximum strength sinus pressure and pain relief. so you feel free. liberated. released. decongested. open for business. [ inhales, exhales ] [ male announcer ] powerful sinus relief from the #1 pharmacist recommended brand. sudafed. open up.
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>> welcome back to "new day." you are looking at live pictures at that mall under assault since saturday. what is it? explosions were heard. we understand that the terrorists say that they have strapped ieds to hostages. the government says that is not true t. government says what you are looking at is this smoke resulting from burning mattresses. the situation, obviously, fluid and certainly not over. we have a correspondent on the ground. we are waiting for her to get back to her camera position. why? because there have been a steady flow of gunfire there. >> that makes everyone scatter. our correspondent, zain verjee. the police and government officials are giving or making a
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statement this smoke is from the terrorists that puts mattresses on the fire. they say it was at the grocery store and they lit them up. they also say the kenyan military forces are in control of west gate. they add that almost all the hostages have been evaluated. they insist that kenya is secure. they claim, too, that two terrorists are dead. several are injured. 10 to 15 of the gunmen they say are all men. that's important, because a lot of the discussions that have been happening around here is that there were several white women that were seen at west gate mall. we also separately received information that one british national is dead. also, what we have been monitoring, ever since the seige started over the last three days is what al-shabaab is saying about their own seevenlth what they're saying is and we cannot independently confirm this is
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that some of the hostages have ieds strapped to them. that's a big question mark. no one here is commenting about that. there is a lot of confusion about it. also, that there is a potential of any gunman being out on the loogs. there is a lot of fear in nairobi and al-shabaab is capitalizeing on that and telling the kenyans, by a frayed, because they are out there. and trying to create as maximum trauma as possible. but again, that is just a report from al qaeda and sal shabaab has put out. >> zain, obviously the one thing that is clear here is that the gel of this act was to spread fear and they're doing that rather effectively. are the sources on the ground giving any sense of time line to when they think they can bring the situation truly under control, which is to end it? >> reporter: the officials that are giving the press conference right now said that this is coming to an end soon. now, they've said that before
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and it's been several hours, but there is definitely an extreme amount of activity happening right now. our sources also say that the thoughts and the cause of the smoke that was rising over west dpaet was some kenyan forces that assaulted the building. i don't have more information on that. but they are saying that all floors of west gate mall are secure. already four floors and that it's a big mall, in fact, 3,000 people can fit in a paul like that. so it's a large piece of property and real estate and they're saying they're fully in control now. whether that is the case, we monitor the situation on the ground and continue to talk to people and watch what happens in west gate. >> all right, zain verjee on the ground in nairobi. stay safe. we'll get back to you soon. aless of other news here this morning. let's get to mikaela. >> let's bring you up to date on our headlines. gun control debate flaring up again. president obama saying he cannot
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accept last week's killings at a navy yard as a memorial. the president said the shooting should lead to some sort of transformation on gun violence in the u.s. on an appearance or "meet the press," one of the fra leaders said in his opinion there weren't enough good guys with guns. the manslaughter trial of the koss that concordia, the associated press reporting the captain is hoping an italian judge will allow an inspection of the now upright cruiseship t. concordia hit a reef, took on water and capsized off the coast in tuscany in january, 2012. 32 people died f. convicted the captain could face 20 years in prison. boston's police commissioners stepping down, months after leaving the response to the boston marathon bombings. davis will make it official. though his resignation is not expected to take effect right away. he has been on the job seven years and is set to be pursuing
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a fellowship at harvard. a 60-year-old woman arrested for a kidnapping that happened 13 years ago. police say the suspect is related to the child's family and stole the infant from their home in florida. >> that case went cold, until she tried to enroll the child, now a teenager, in school in missouri. apparent lot i that raised a whole lot of red flags. police say the child and father have now been reunited. students in san antonio could get suspended because of this they got caught on camera taking part in a texas size food fight. it happened at the what a burger restaurant after the football game between high schools. some of the kids posted pictures on twitter and inthat zbrachlt now all of that could come back to bite these food fighters. in fact, they could even face criminal charge. not all the u all of the kids were in support of it. they say we messed it up by doing this. some of the kids were having
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moral dilemma with what the fund was. >> all caught on camera. >> it happened when we were kid. >> that's right. all we had was word of mouth. i don't know how loudly to tell them how double it is to put it out there. it's a great parenting tool. their own desire to be relevant gets them caught. so i don't know how loudly to say it. lucky that they know who it was. >> there you go. coming up on "new day," we are going to go back to kenya and let you know what happens as we understand it. you are looking at the scene right now. the cause of that smoke is in dispute. what is not in dispute is that situation is far from over. hostages still inside. authorities scrambling to get control. we will take you there. also, we will talk about the new apple iphone. am i wrong to say i should not be that excited? >> i thought you were excited. a bit of history. >> what's going on now, though, tell me. >> do you think your now iphone is totally safe? that fancy new james bond
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printer scanner, you might want to think again. we have a little troubling news for you on that. we'll be right back after this. .
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>> welcome back to in the new day." a bit of a security headache for apple. hackers posted a video showing you how you can bypass the fingerprint feature on the new iphone 5 s. we will bring in the host bret
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larsen. it almost feels like he's calling you out on this. i don't actually think that. do you think this was just inevitable? hackers love to be in the feature. >> it's the monday morning quarterback. hackers what it in loan for like a week. then they intend the entire weekend drinking red bull and figuring out ways of breaking into the new phone. they did wit a combination of, they took a picture of someone's fingerprint. they reversed it and put glue over it. it's a lot to go through. they did do it. with i is kind of surprising. i think it's the average joe doesn't really have to worry about something like. they have to rerevise. i thought it was just they took a dirty screen and was able to get your print. >> they took it off that way. they took a picture of someone's fingerprint. >> i'm back, baby. that was easy. it was the easiest. >> the question that in the rush
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to get to market, are these companies forgetting about basic -- are they not hiring harkers to trouble shoot issues before they go to market? >> it's definitely that. it's also, now it's in the wild. now it's like everybody. it's not just developers who have it. it's not the handful of people that get them the few weeks before market the people that work at apple. it's everybody. it's people who will sit around and go, i wonder what happens if i do this. >> that's what everybody is saying about it. >> apple says the one thing they haven't said specifically about this, one thing they did say, it will unlock with a sleeping finger. it won't unlock if you cut someone's finger off. >> that sounds gross. like a girlfriend or a boyfriend is concerned their other half is cheating, could be in the middle of the night, here you go, no, it's fine. it's not like putting your hand in a cup of water. >> why not a chopped off finger? >> it's cold. that's the excuse i came up with. >> you keep worrying me you would know that and you who you
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would ask th. in the video. he pit over his fing sorry the print would have been warm. they will more than likely, please don't cut off your finger to get into someone else's phone. they will find a security update. there is always going to be little bugs every time they release a you in one. there is another security flaw if you push the buttons in the right order, it's like playing nintendo, up, right, left, right, av. it's one of those sixes. >> you get a free life. >> more people are getting it. they were sticking them in my face all week. you haven't gotten it. it takes like an hour plus. you have to wait? >> the security update there yeah. >> it does take a bit of time. in my, in total, just looking at people over the weekend, i was kind of surprised to see most people that i know who have iphones have updated to ios 7. >> you told me it was going to delete everything on my 4s, so i
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panicked. >> you are planning to wait until next week? >> maybe. >> if are you not on the bleeding edge, it's good to wait a week. let mem work out the buzz. >> bret larsen, no bugs here. don't cut off your finger and wait a week. there we go. i can't get it out of my head. strangest tech news i've ever heard. >> really? >> we'll settle this on the break. coming up on "new day," we will keep taking you back to kenya. it's a developing situation. hostages are inside. you are looking at the smoke. undiscover what the source is right now. we will give you the latest as soon as we get it here on "new day". ahead in her own words, hillary clinton offering up confirmation. she is talking about it. what itself the take away from this big interview in we will talk to two former advisers to president clinton.
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welcome back to "new day." the glitz, the glamour and the surprises. there was plenty to go around at last night's emmy awards. the top overall awards went to the favorites but it was also a night full of upsets. nischelle turner is in los angeles this morning, this evening with the recap of all the big hits. good morning. >> the time to start has blurred together for a while but i'm
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here, and yes we're talking about upsets. the upsets began in the very first award of the night, best supporting actress in a comedy. the smart money was on sofia vergara or julie bowen from "modern family." in the win she had one of the show's best moments. take a look. >> twerk it! >> a playful combination of front row banter. >> i'm not twerking, that would be degrading. >> we would be degrateful. >> reporter: helped neil patrick harris kick off the 65th prime time emmy awards. >> a night of song. ♪ the emmy awards are three hours long ♪ >> reporter: dance and celebration. ♪ left some emmy winners like jeff daniels. >> i usually don't win anything. >> reporter: and merritt weaver noticeably surprised. >> i gotta go. bye. >> reporter: while tony hail and
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julia louis-dreyfus had nun character. >> i'd like to thank our -- my family. >> reporter: jim parsons were visibly moved. >> so silly to be emotional, isn't it? >> reporter: and the nokia theater's 6,000 guests were brought to their feet. the show singled out five heartfelt memorials including "sopranos" star james gandolfini. >> it's jim, the man, the very dear man that i will miss most of all. >> reporter: corey monteith, his smaller body of work. >> his death is a reminder of the rpapacious destruction brought on by addiction. >> i wish gary was still with us. but -- sorry. >> reporter: "modern family" won
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its fourth straight in the year's best comedy. michael douglas' staring role as liberace may have earned him emmy gold over matt damon. >> this is a two-hander. you're only as good -- >> reporter: in the end the hbo pie yo pic was second to none. ♪ luck be a lady tonight >> reporter: winning 11 statues in all. >> thank you. >> reporter: i was back stage and the winners walked off the stage and claire danes was euphor euphoric, jeff daniels still in disbelief, tony hail said he and julia louis-dreyfus talked they'd do a bit if they won but never thought they'd win and michael douglas, he was like the dapper fella at the ball last night. he told me playing liberace in "behind the candelabra" is one of the top two or three roles
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he's ever done. think about his body of bourque, that's saying a lot. >> absolutely right. you wonder they either play it off really well or truly are surprised and aren't prepared when they walk on stage. i love the acceptance speeches. >> merritt weaver was truly surprised. she looked like she was about to break into the ugly cry and she didn't know what to do or where to go or what to say. she just said "i gotta go." it was hilarious. >> we've all done the ugly cry. nischelle, get some rest. great work, great fun. >> nischelle has so much energy when she was clearly partying all night long. >> that woman always has energy. >> it's code for, "i was back stage interviewing." i know what's going on. i know what's going pop. >> the afterparties are epic. >> i don't know, i've never been invited. >> she's all work, guys. >> or workin' it at the parties and she might as well. when we comb back everyone says hillary clinton is the democrats' choice for president
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in 2016 but it doesn't matter until the former secretary of state says she wants in. oh, is that what she just said in an interview? and kenya, smoke pouring out of the nairobi mall where militants are holding hostages. how much longer can al shabab terrorists hold out? a lot of developing news out there. we'll go live to the scene.
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this is what membership does. he shot at my head but luckily it hit the wall behind me. >> breaking news, happening right now, gunfire, smoke and exploee explosions at that mall in kenya
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and a new twist, are americans involved in the attack? we're live with unfolding drama. will president obama meet with iran's new president in new york this week? the overture from iran that may providing the opening but it's a big gamble. rihanna snaps this photo with a slow loris in thailand, turned out it's an endangered species. two men are arrested. we have details. >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> welcome back to "new day." there is breaking news, we want to take you back to kenya. we've been monitoring the situation all morning long. live picture that smoke is one of the concerns in this situation mainly because its source still unaccounted for. different stories coming from the terrorists inside and the
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government. questions about the control, how many hostages are still inside, how many terrorists are still inside, the composition of the tripss so there's a lot unknown. when you see people scrambling in the pictures, these are all the support groups. there's a lot of resources on the ground because they don't know what they're dealing with inside the mall. those are people on the ground in positions of assistance. lot of questions if you're monitoring online the reporting is all over the place. let's get down on the ground. cnn has a person in nairobi, zain verjee is there with the latest. zain, what do we know now? >> reporter: in the last 48 hours, there's been a pattern of calm, a lull before total chaos, and that's the situation that we're in right now. hopefully everything is okay at westgate mall. we're hearing from government officials that everything is okay and they are in control. the smoke that we saw earlier
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they are saying was from the terrorists putting mattresses on fire at the supermarket. almost all the hostages have been evacuated and the two terrorists are dead and several are injured. they say the terrorists were all men and numbered between 10 and 15 people. there were many eyewitnesss that had told us and have said that they were white women carrying guns and firing, so it's unclear. there are reports, too, there's a new cctv footage that shows a white woman with a gun inside the mall. so we're going to take a closer look at that, but you know, there are still many questions on what exactly is happening inside the mall. are these really the hostages or are they people that were hiding out and they were found and just released? how many hostages are there? how many hostages were killed? many people say that al shabab,
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al qaeda, al shabab in particular have a pattern, they have a hostage, they kill them. the government is saying almost all the hostages are okay. we're waiting to find out. also when the hostages come out, are there any casualties they would usually come here because this is the emergency response and there's a triage center. we haven't seen anyone yet so we're going to monitor the situation and let you know what happens. >> all right, zain, thanks so much. trying to clear some of this up, clearly a lot of conflicting information as this is a fluid situation on the ground. we'll get back to zain as things continue to develop this morning. there is new developments about the attackers themselves. kenya's interior minister said all of the attackers are men as zain was mentioning but some of them maybe were dressed as women. we've also learned at least three of the attackers could have u.s. ties. let's get straight to chris lawrence who is live in minneapolis with that side of this story. good morning, chris. >> reporter: good morning, kate. right now federal agents are running down leads trying to determine if any of the
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attackers were american. group claiming to be al shabab posted on its twitter account that one of the attackers was from kansas city, two others from right here in minneapolis. we know this is home to probably the country's largest somali-and community and a lot of families have been fighting the efforts of recruiting of al shabab luring their young men overseas. dozens of young men have traveled to fight with al shabab. recruiting video released just last month featuring one of the young men comparing somali as disneyland for jihadists and urged others to join in the fight. some in the obama administration have been raising alarms about this potential recruiting but an fbi source says they have been working with the somali-american community here to try to prevent any of those who have traveled overseas from coming back here to the united states to commit
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acts of terrorism. chris? >> chris, thank you for the reporting. an interesting wrinkle in the situation. let's try to get some perspective. joining us is the chairman of the house subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence new york republican peter king. thank you for joining us. always a pleasure. >> thank you, chris. >> let answer get into this american connection part. we're watching the developing events there on the ground. we have a reporter there, we're using our analysts but this twist about maybe there are some of them connected back here, we're hearing minnesota, now i had done some investigative work up there. there's the cot trade, that amphetamine based route, the concern money is getting sent back to north africa. what do you know about what's happening in kenya and people back here in the u.s.? >> when i was chairman of the homeland security committee two years ago i had two hearings involving al shabab and activities in the st. paul, minnesota, area. chris, there's been 40 or 50
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young americans who left minneapolis to go to somalia to be trained. in some cases there was evidence people in the mosques knew about this. there was a facilitation process. . that 40 to 50 who have gone over to be trained, at least 50 killed in fighting over in somalia, the concern as we've said before is that any of these coming back into the united states or fwhofb contact with operatives in the united states the sfooib concerned about this. i'm assuming they're on top of the situation in st. paul, minneapolis, see if any phone calls or contact or travel back and forth that's been suspicious over the last several months. these are trained terrorists, maeshz who went to somalia to be trained as terrorists by al shabab. >> it's bad if we are exporting terrorists and money from here to help efforts abroad, also equally concerning, if we are basically home growing in the united states, people that do attacks like this here any concern of that type of
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coordinated effort? >> i was very concerned. that's the reason i held the hearings two years ago and we had a father actually a man who raised one of the young men who had gone to somalia to be trained and wanted to come back to the united states and realized he had done the wrong thing and he was killed while he was over there assumedly by al shabab, that's who he was training with and the father was telling us how difficult it was to get the support in the community that he wanted, that actually people in the mosque were intimidated, told him not to cooperate with the police or fbi. the overwhelming majority of them are outstanding people but there is this element and it was only recently the state department agreed to declare al shabab a terrorist organization. they was maintaining it was confined to a civil war situation in somalia but as we see these are terrorists who go beyond their borders and this attack in kenya was extremely sophisticated, probably the most sophisticated of this type of attack since mumbai.
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>> al shabab is translated as "the youth" the new wave of terrorist organizations. what does this mean in terms of the choices the united states has to make where to get involved. couple weeks ago, should we get after syria. now the attacks going on in north africa, so many choices to make what to get involved in and what not. do you believe this is a situation that calls for direct military support, military action to help stop something like this? >> i think it requires intelligence support and training and cooperating in an intelligence manner. for instance you have al shabab is also trained with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in yemen, involved in nigeria and we can't be sending troops to all these places but we can provide some support on the ground certainly give them intelligence and weapons if that's important but also training. training the local police, training the local armies, finding the elements within those societies we can work with
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but realizing that this is especially in africa right now and nigeria, in somalia, in kenya and joining up with al qaeda in yemen, these are real threats to the u.s. you're right, we can't be sending troops everywhere. we have to refine how we do it and have our intelligence agencies work with people on the ground and we have to provide technical assistance and training to those elements we feel we can trust. keep in mind too often we think because bin laden is dead that somehow the threat from islamic terrorism is gone. it's not. many ways it's more dangerous than ever because it's morphing in many countries under then different names whether it's iraq, mali, libya, yemen, somalia, whether it's nigeria, all of these countries. >> on the flipside, congressman, and that's why there's concern on the american public side they hear maybe this is a situation that will demand military action. that was a lot of the pushback on syria, don't you think?
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when we see this attack in kenya, brings that issue into focus. america has to make choices where it dedicates resources. >> we do but i think that we can push off any need for military assistance if we can get involved at a much lower level, lower level i'm saying more behind the scenes as far as in supplying intelligence, providing training, not putting our boots on the ground but finding elements that we can work with in somalia, working with the government in yemen, for instance the government has been cooperative. in somalia we've made progress working with the african union and other troops, other support groups. we can't be going everywhere but on the other hand we can't be isolationists and withdraw. we can confine it to intelligence operations and also to providing training and assisting those groups that we feel we can work with. >> so window into how these division decisions are getting
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more commit indica more complicated. thank you for being with us on "new day." >> thank you, chris. is the u.s. on the brink of a break-through with iran? that question could be answered this question as the newly elected president of iran heads to the u.n. general assembly here in new york, making new overtures to the west that would be historic if accepted but are they real? cnn's nick paton walsh is at the u.n. with the latest on this. >> the real question is will barack obama and the new president of iran, al hassan rowhani meet here. yesterday rowhani own his twitter account where he's put some very friendly messages out suggesting he would be open to th that as long as there weren't any conditions. some say the benefits of getting iran to drop its nuclear program and to help out maybe in some way in the civil war in syria
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outweigh the risks if embarrassingly if it were to fail. tough high stakes call this week for barack obama at the u.n. should he take a bold gamble and try and meet with the new president of the state that is pretty much against everything the u.s. stands for, iran. after decades of animosity, america, the great satan to iran and iran part of the u.s.'s old axis of evil there may be a thought afoot, as to if set that new tone a very public invitation to meet came from iran's president on twitter. hassan rowhani said sunday he was ready for dialogue without preconditions. while no meeting has been set the white house is clear it may be time to talk if iran is serious about giving up the desire the u.s. says it has to make a nuclear bomb. >> we have no meetings scheduled. we communicate with the iranians through a variety of methods, as
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we've said in the past. president obama and the new president rowhani have exchanged letters, as president obama motor e noted in a couple of minutes. >> reporter: rowhani plans to meet with president hollande who backs the rebels against the regime so perhaps a short one and one with obama is not that far-fetched. since he took office obama said he will welcome diplomacy with iran. >> we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist. >> reporter: many question how sincere iran east diplomatic overture is and remind washington of how just one year ago with the u.n. general assembly iran's last president mahmoud ahmadinejad railed against the u.s. and israel. there's been limited diplomacy between washington and tehran since the u.s. embassy hostage crisis in 1979, but sanctions haven't yet forced iran to drop
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its nuclear program and the clock is ticking. is iran cracking under international pressure or playing for time? that will be tough to answer even if obama is bold enough to meet this man. the question is, is this overture real? u.s. ally israel and other hawks think probably not and some point out while rowhani is the new president he actually works for the supreme leader of iran, ayatollah xhkhomeinei and he's t shown any signs of softening to the u.s. still a high stakes deal here. back to you, chris. >> thank you for the reporting this morning. we want to take you to chicago for a look at the fallout. the governor of illinois has suggested bringing in the national guard following friday's mass shooting at a city park but this weekend, surprising new signs of hope. here's cnn's ted rowlands. >> reporter: the assault rifle shooting in a park of 3-year-old
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deonte howard and 12 others thursday is an example of how bad chicago's problem with gang violence can be. but saturday there was this example of hope, rival gangs together playing basketball. >> you bring everybody together, you work as a team, comes and goes and you move on. leave all the shooting and the gang banging to the streets. >> reporter: called the peace tournament the gang basketball games included nba star derrick rose and hall of famer isiah thomas, both chicago natives pushing for peace. it is run by rob phleger trying to balance. >> there was this wonderful thing of peace on saturday. >> reporter: how to find that balance is the problem. ily nose governor is suggesting bringing in the national guard. >> at some point they're going to have to leave and then what?
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you're still left with the same issues. >> reporter: mayor rahm emmanuel who was booed by some people at the basketball game is frustrated he hasn't been able to solve the problem. >> we will not allow children in the city of chicago to have their youthfulness, their optimism, their hope, taken from them. >> reporter: the numbers of chicago homicides are down compared to last year by 21% but no one will argue that when a 3-year-old is shot in a park with an assault rifle, there's a major problem here that needs to be solved. ted rowlands, cnn, chicago. >> that is absolutely right. ted thank you for that. a lot of news is developing at this hour. straight to michaela for the latest ed had lines. >> good morning to you. the u.s. navy searching the red sea for two missing crew members after a helicopter crash, three other members of the crew were rescued. military officials say the chopper went down during routine flight operations and there was
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no hostile activity. that crash is under investigation. just seven days to go before a government shutdown, key democrats and republicans saying they expect to put aside the partisan bitterness in order to avoid a shutdown. friday the republican-led house passed a bill to keep the government funded only if obama care is defunded. the bill is before the senate where democrats vow to remove the decision to defund obama care. seven people collapsed from suspected drug overdoses at a park. investigators believe stricken concert goerers had taken a synthetic drug called 2c-p. four were taken to area hospitals. 2c-p increases the user's heart rate and blood pressure and can cause dehydration. angela merkel celebrating an historic third term election victory. her conservative bloc winning more than 40% of the vote,
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party's best election showing in more than 20 years. the 59-year-old chancellor is on track to succeed margaret thatcher as europe's longest serving lead per. president obama pardoned a 5-year-old louisiana girl who missed kindergarten so she could visit the white house with her family. alana asked president obama to write a note for her teacher explaining her absent. the president granted her request. it reads, please excuse alana from school. she was with hee." she was part of the wounded warriors and their families who met at the white house. her mama, yolanda, was wounded in afghanistan. i guess they had to give it to the teacher. maybe they asked for it back before. >> i remember at a town hall, the kid said can you write me a note, i remember something like that happening. >> might also work. that's where i was. >> just play the tape, live on cnn. thanks, michaela. let's get straight to indra
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petersons, keeping track of the forecast. how many people are going to be asking for sick notes today. >> me, a lot if it keeps on being this cold. supposed to be 70s when it's cold for average temperatures in the fall. i'm complaining. we're talking about 40s and 50s this morning, many places in the northeast 10 to 15 degrees below average even for you. boston, temperatures in the 60s today and many people thought it was cold yesterday, they don't have an excuse. low 70s is not that bad but the wind is out there, a little bit gusting and making it chillier. temperatures are moderating so at least it gets better, talking about 70s by the middle of the week, not a big deal. i think the big story was that cold front that pushed through over the weekend. it exited, brought a lot of overnight rain in the northeast saturday to sunday. if you were in the southeast you were not so lucky. it is lingering, holding on. we have that stationary front and look at the rain, a good two and a half inches from rain from louisiana through florida where it has not stopped raining for months now. it's just literally not ending.
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i wish i had good news for you but unfortunately no, you have several inches of rain still in the forecast and once the stationary front kicks out of here, look behind it, another cold front headed your way so even more rain for you. so they're calling in sick more in the southeast than we are here, right? >> thanks, indra. >> any info when the ocean temperature starts coming down here nor in the northeast? >> every day. >> magic number is 62 degrees. just checking it out. >> it's too cold for me to get in. >> the bass come and when i catch it, they will all want some. i like it. coming up on "new day," we'll be following breaking details out of kenya this morning, looking at a live picture, smoke still coming out now, over an hour. the question is why? different stories coming out. we're told by the government those are mattresses set on fire. we know there are hostages set inside so we'll take to you nairobi for the latest.
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welcome back to "new day" everyone. for the first time hillary clinton is opening up a little bit more about a possible 2016 presidential bid, in her first extended interview since leaving the state department clinton confirms to "new york" magazine she's considering a run for the oval office but there's a lot in between considering and i'm jumping in. joining us, two former advisers to president bill clinton,
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writer richard sacorides and paul begala. is she in, isn't she in, we've been talking for as long as any of us would like to remember. what do you take away from this interview? where is her head and heart on this in. >> i think her message, to get her message i found a poem from the 1600s, andrew mar vele, had we but world and time this coy woman can do her time. she needs to write her foundation book. i want her to run, i'm unabashed about it, run, littlery, run but she doesn't need to be pushed into this. she enjoys her life and let her have a life for a little while. >> richard, in part of the interview she says this, when asked about is she going to run "i will just continue to weigh
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what the factors are that would influence me making a decision one way or the other." that's not saying something but saying it with a lot of words. what are those factors that you think she needs to be weighing is weighing right now. >> i want her to run and know her commitment to solving the problems we face as a country wanted to run. there are several factors. like anybody she's looking at can i win if i run, and what would it cost me for money and emotionally and the family. she's looking at do i have it in me. she's 65 now, i think that's pretty young but this takes a toll and wouldn't just be a commitment to running, it would be a commitment to serving one, perhaps two terms and then i think also she's thinking what happens if i don't run, what is going to happen in my party, what is going to happen in the country that she obviously compares so deeply about if she doesn't run, who is likely to
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become president if she doesn't run. >> paul you alluded to it, if you want to have time to be hillary, get off the high wire she's been on for 20 years as she said in the interview, why do the interview? why put yourself out there for this big spread in "new york" magazine? >> because all of us would like to have things both ways and why not let her? she can speak out when she wants to and she can hang back when she wants to. i think her first public statement after she left the state department was to endorse marriage equality which i think was a wonderful thing that she did, and then she kind of went back to writing her book and doing her foundation work. now she's given this interview, you know, she's allowed to. she's a private citizen. no longer as she said for the first time in 20 years she's not obligated to meet with the press or answer questions but she's also not a her mitt. she's a very public person. i thought it was a good interview, i thought it was an interesting look at her life right now. >> also an interesting part of
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this, richard, is the writer, joe hagan, points out, he brought chelsea and her role into this article and called chelsea the gatekeeper for both bill and hillary. what is the chelsea factor as they're weighing this? >> i think that's right and this is a big week for the three of them, bill, hillary and chelsea clinton, this is the opening of the annual meeting for the clinton global initiative. it's the first time that they've done this now the foundation being renamed the bill, hillary and chelsea clinton foundation sots he aa big moment for them as a unit and i think chelsea is playing a more prominent role and part of the reason i think why she did the interview. >> paul, what is the timing here? when do you think someone, be it hillary clinton or someone else in the democratic party, when do they need to announce? >> i think those are two very different questions. anybody else has got to start to try to lay the groundwork as you see some people doing.
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vice president biden impressive guy, very popular, he was just in iowa recently, at the tom harkin steak fry, the governors of new york, of maryland, possibly even massachusetts, may be looking at this but hillary has more time than anyone else and that's why her friends and i'm one of them are saying she can take her time. she doesn't need to build name identification and doesn't need to build a roster of donors. her time horizon and the whole rest of the party's time horizon are very different. >> what do you think, richard? >> i think that's right. probably after the mid terms around not this coming thanksgiving but thanksgiving 2014 after the midterm elections she'll wake up one morning and decide how does it feel, how do i feel? probably talk to her husband and her daughter and that's probably about it and then she'll make a decision. >> she'll wake up and announce and there will be that democratic machine behind her ready to go, already placing calls for her.
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that's just how it works. paul, richard, great to see but >> thanks. we'll talk much more about this to be sure. chris? >> all right, kate. we'll take a break here on "new day." when we come back, back to nairobi, kenya and the reports of gunfire, explosions. you're looking at the scene live now. the source of the smoke is in dispute. there are hostages inside, we'll bring you the latest developments. and rihanna's can you sealy close-up in thailand is causing some problems. i don't know what kind of animal that is but it is endangered, called a slow loris and two men are under arrest because of the situation. we'll tell you more. but going back to school is hard... because you work. now, capella university offers a revolutionary new way to get your degree. it's called flexpath and it's the most direct path, leveraging what you've learned on the job and focusing on what you need to know so you can get a degree at your pace.
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welcome back to "new day." it's monday, september 23rd. we want to take you back to breaking news in nairobi, kenya. that smoke has been billowing out of the mall there for well over an hour. its source in dispute. there are hostages still inside. the situation is still obviously very much ongoing, different versionless of events are coming out. we have a correspondent on the ground. let's get to cnn's zain verjee in kenya with the latest. zain? >> reporter: hi. the helicopters are starting to circle again and we've seen a third plume of smoke in the sky just a short while ago. initially officials had said the major blum of smoke was because it was from the terrorists that were trying to put a fire out using ma trepss. it's unclear what exactly has
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triggered that. they say they're in the building and in control. they say they've cleared all the floored, these two be ieds, mines, some explosive devices that the kenyan forces along with the israelis are clearing but we don't know that for sure. there are many questions unanswered. officials are saying almost all the hostages have been evacuated but it's unclear whether those could have been people hiding or they were able to release or actual hostages. they are not bringing anyone here anymore. they're taking them straight to a triage area that has been set up near westgate. we also have questions about did anyone escape, were there militants, gunmen, gun inwell, there are ma gunwomen and things are tense despite the government saying it is in control. >> that's a key question, zain. we're hearing competing versions of events of what's going on inside that mall. ordinarily we don't want to give parody to an interpretation but
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what do you know about the two different versions? >> reporter: well the government on the one side is saying publicly that they are in control, the country is secure. special forces, the security agencies, the police, the paramilitaries are saying nothing because the operation is under way. they can't capri mompromise it. meanwhile tension on an al shabab twitter feet that there are hostages and gunmen on the loose but they're raising questions who got out and if there is a secondary game plan. kenyans are already afraid and the resources here are being stretched and there's just a lot of fear. al shabab putting this out who knows if it's true bethu. there is a lot of conflicting information about hostages earlier in the someday. >> zain thank you for the reporting. please stay safe and again we don't usually want to give a
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terrorist organization parity but because of the fluid nature of the situation we want to monitor all information coming out thereof. that's one story we're following. let's get to michaela for the five things you need to know for your new day. >> here we go, let's look at the headlines. the gun control debate revived after the navy yard shootings. the president saying it should lead to some sort of transformation on gun violence. the nra leaders saying there weren't enough good guys with guns. a status conference today for boston bombing suspects dzhokhar tsarnaev . his lawyers are expected to ask a judge about a time line for death penalty protocol. jurors in the michael jackson wrongful death trial will be read jury instructions today, closing arcments are set for tomorrow. jackson's family is suing concert promoter aeq live saying it is liable for his death. another term for angela merkel, reelected chancellor in a vote significant on several levels. and number five, a bit of
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controversy with rihanna and a photo leading to arrest. this pop superstar raised eyebrows for her racy inta gram photos but this one is different, involving a promoekted migrate. now two people are in custody. >> this cussedy close-up is causing problems. that's a slo loris, a nocturnal primate with large eyes native to southeast asia where it's listed as an endangered species. ♪ beautiful like diamonds in the sky ♪ >> reporter: the diamond singer snapped this selfie in thailand and posted it for her followers along with elephants she came across. the pictures caused quite a few people to be upset but the photo of her with the slow loris that is arresting literally. after seeing it authorities sprang into action and arrested a 20-year-old man and
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16-year-old boy. phuket authorities were alerted to the picture and police arrested the two individuals who brought out the loris as a photo opportunity for the tourists. the penalty is up to four years in prison and a $1,300 fine. the phuket news reports the lorises will be returned to a national park after their brush with celebrity. >> forgive my glibness, two pop stars primate stories we've covered on cnnen? >> it's an emerging genre. >> it's a trend. >> there's a long history all the way back to clinton eastwood with the orangutan that he then made into a movie partner. >> this one was small. >> big eyes. we update the five things to know so go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. >> shouldn't have what it took
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to go for a fast loris, had to go after a slow loris. it's monday morning, today's edition, doing the right thing is rewarding in itself. little extra can help reinforce the point. boston homeless man glen james finds a bag containing more than $42,000 in traveler's checks. he found it and could have kept the money free and clear but instead he turned it in. >> there is no way i would have kept even a penny of that money. there's just no way. no way. >> well, he certainly could have but he chose not to. so a complete stranger, this guy lives all the way across the country in virginia, hundreds of miles away, so moved by the story he starts an online fund-raising drive for scott. now, the homeless man can buy his own home. to date people donated $140,000 and climbing. >> those donations will help me
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get a brand new start in life. >> simply said. and the point is, you know, very often people open up their wallets for causes here in the u.s., well-known for it and here is a targeted situation, someone does the right thing and people want to reward that rein reinforcement. >> almost better than a charity. you know your money is going to impact that one person. >> you see the result. >> i'm not sure about what his situation is but i know people are getting around him to help support him because it's a lot of money to get hit with all of a sudden. >> it shows you a lot of people assume that all homeless people got to be homeless for one reason. they all have stories. you never know what took them there. >> true. one thing is absolutely sure with what's going on in the world today, it is very important that we reward virtue. i love people in the community just like mine and yours stepping up and doing right
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i'd like to thank our -- my family. brad, paul and henry hall and charlie hall, my children are here this evening. >> we love them so much. >> and i love them so much. >> welcome back to "new day." that is julia louis-dreyfus taking home the emmy for her turn in "vee." we talked about the show and her surprising new role alongside
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the late james gandolfini. being hailed for a break-through performance. >> does your daughter live with you? >> half the time,ing avapts her sometimes but the thing is she and her mother are very, very neat. as a matter of fact their favorite store is that, uhm, i don't know, what is it, it's a store with all the empty boxes and storage. >> oh, the container store? >> yes, container store, the store that sells crap so you can put your crap in so you can buy some more crap. >> i love that store. i love crap. >> all right, and joining us now, julia louis-dreyfus to talk about it all. >> thank you for having me on this new day. >> thank you so much. so we had the chance to see "enough said" very funny which you're known for. bittersweet, the characters are complex as you walked them throughout the film. is that what interested you? >> there's a lot of drama in this film as well as being comedic and it's rough and raw
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and it explores this character that i play eva in a pretty deep way. she's, i play a masseuse who is, whose only daughter is about to go off to college and so she has a lot of anxiety about this impending departure of her daughter. so much anxiety that she doesn't even realize it sort of overcomes her and as a result she does something absolutely terrible in this film, and it's sort of -- she's a little bit out of control. >> so what was the dynamic with access with this character for you in terms of what comes out of you that is similar from your life experience versus just taking a character in a place that has no direction that's familiar? >> well, i have two children and my oldest son went off to college a couple years ago and
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that was horrible. i mean it was great for him and i'm thrilled and that's actually what's supposed to happen but -- >> you handled it differently is what you're saying. >> yeah, i mean, i -- i was pretty upset. i was very heartbroken e and i had a lot of anxiety leading up to it so i understood. i didn't do anything as bad as eva does in this film but the anxiety about his leefaving ands a parent even though you know intellectually you're raising children to one day leave you, you don't really know that emotionally and then when it happens, it's like getting hit by a mack truck, at least it was for me, so i'm looking forward to the next one leaving. >> it's going to be a great moment. this was a very different role for you, but it was also a very different role for james gandolfini. i think people will be surprised when they see the character and his softness that you really do see come out. what was it like working together? >> exactly. he really does play a
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thoughtful, kind endearing, self-efacing man. this is what he plays in the movie and guess what? that's what he was really like. people will be amazed actually to see this performance. he's just as dear as dear can be. he really is. >> you miss him? >> yeah. >> it was clearly significant for to work together for a time but after his passing the time together and the film itself takes on a whole different significance. >> it does. it's just something i treasure, always will for sure, always will. >> here on "new day," cnn, we can't let you go without being newsy. you played vice president. need your take on syria. >> what? >> when you're playing politics, how much do you look at politics in the world around you and say this would be an interesting part for my character or do it differently. how do you try to be different from what you see around? >> i watch news and the
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political world with a different eye. >> um-hum. >> there's no doubt about that. >> but "veep" you don't know if she's left or right. >> you don't although you'll get more of a sense of that this season. having said that, she's a straddler and i think she's -- >> good, so unfamiliar in today's politics. >> what? >> so i could see a situation where she might switch parties and then switch back again just to sort of stay alive politically. >> you're living the dream, on the big screen, life is good. kid went to college, haven't had to cover him in the news or anything. >> thank you, thank you very much. i got to remember that, that's right, it's all good. it's all good. >> thank you for having me. >> welcome to "new day." >> julia's film "enough said" is in theaters right now. we'll be right back. >> it was good to have her on "new day." coming up, check out this crazy canine. they love the leaves but he's so good, he's part of the award of
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welcome to autumn. the footballs are flying and the leaves are falling. this is a siberian husky having his way with a pile of leagues. impressive dog no question but not the most impressive dog we have for you today. >> oh really? >> please look at this dog as michaela pointed out a cross between a staffordshire terrier and german shepherd. this might be the most powerful dog in the world that could handle nuclear weapons and write op-eds for the "new york times" and a dog that could steal your super bowl ring. that's right, look at this guy. it looks exactly like russian president vladimir putin, right? >> except the ears. >> had his work done, vladimir did. man in the ukraine noticed the resemblance but the dog wins the "fetch this" award because he looks like vladimir putin, he's not fetching anything as far as
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i can tell. >> true. >> you've taken on fabio and took on the rock and now you decide to take on -- >> the guy with nuclear weapons and in the kgb and knows judo. >> united nations, please welcome me. >> blame him, not him. just kidding. >> what? i'm pro-rock. >> you are pro-rock. >> i am pro-rock. >> berman fears no one. >> no one. >> tell that to my wife. >> we'll be right back. the humble back seat.
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