for an interview on wednesday. on thursday, my interview with chelsea clinton. that's all for us tonight. "ac360 later" starts right now.. at this hour the deadly standoff continues. it has now been four days since people shopping, eating and spending time with their families in an upscale mall in kenya walked into violence. the situation is unresolved and reports about who was in control of the west gate shopping mall in nairobi and how many hostages remain alive inside. some reports saying that all the hostages have been released and according to the red cross, 65 people are still unaccounted for. they revised the death toll down to 62. some victims were miscounted. the details have been and remain fluid with each day and every hour new details are surfacing and tonight we have a much

clearer picture of how the attack unfolded over the weekend. saturday afternoon, shots and explosions are heard in the busy upscale wastegate -- westgate shopping mall in nairobi, kenya. >> they are held by gunmen and reports indicate that several people have been shot. >> witnesses say an unknown number of gunmen burst into the mall. firing shots at the ceiling and tossing grenades. panicked shoppers assume it's a robbery, but eyewitnesss say the gunmen tell all muslims to leave. according to some reports, asking the name of the prophet mohamed's mother to prove their faith before they exit. that would leave the non-muslims as hostages and targets. >> 18 gunmen to be within the westgate having taken control of the mall. right now, police, as we understand, have been able to

gain access. we do understand the death toll now stands at least four people. >> reporter: the gunman moved from store to store. hundreds of terrified shoppers tried to flee or attempt to hide in stores and stair wells. many escape however they can. kenyan authorities storm the mall in pursuit of the gunmen. with an unknown number of hostages. one from north carolina tried to run but ended up hiding for four terrifying hours before she finally escaped. >> we stood up and then we heard machine guns. then we started to run and there was a second explosion which knocked us on the ground.

>> as the kenyan military takes control, the survivors begin trickling out. >> everything is fine. don't worry. you are fine. >> reporter: late saturday afternoon, the terrorist group al shabaab claims responsibility for the attack in a series of tweets, also indicating one or more gunmen may be american. the siege continues sunday. the kenyan government announces 59 are dead and more than 175 wounded. among them 26-year-old elaine dan of america. who spoke by phone from the hospital. >> i am okay and very grateful. to be alive. >> reporter: the gunmen are still inside the mall, still holding hostages. by monday, the kenyan government said their forces have taken control of most of the building. >> the process of the hostages have gone on very well. we are very certain that there

hostages in the building. >> reporter: later in the day, heavy gunfire. 62 confirmed dead and the fourth day of the stand off has begun. we have late breaking news. "the washington post" is reporting that the kenyan foreign minster said two or three of the attackers at the nairobi shopping mall were americans. cnn international has been on the ground in nairobi and joins me now. there have been conflicting reports the last few hours over if the situation is fully contained now. what is the latest? what are you hearing? >> reporter: we have been hearing for a few hours and you are right, almost all of the hostages have been freed. when we initially had this, the kenya government said this is the end game and that final salt has been going on quite some time here. some of us here can understand why.

they have no intention of being taken alive and some of our sources said they are hiding behind the hostages and they have been using the hostages as human shields. if you can imagine going into that situation. disarm the gunmen and try and rescue what remaining hostages there are, it could only have been extraordinarily scarey and it's taking a long time. >> there still more than 60 people unaccounted for and do you know anything about -- is there any kind of an update about that? we got word about that a short time ago. >> reporter: the last few eyewitnesss have been able to come out from within the hostage taker's room. they are describing pretty horrific scenes. when you hear them talk about piled up bodies, people lying around the place, not really being able to get a sense of

really whether you are looking at a man or a woman in some of these instances. the firing seems to be real indiscriminate. they came in and chose a day that was a children's cooking competition. this was advertised for quite some time here in nairobi and that added to the utter panic. they don't know if their relatives are among those here. they are not yet accounted for. one guy who you have seen every day. he says his father is still inside. he told us he has to come here because he has to believe somehow his father is going to walk out through those doors. >> you and i worked together in

mogadishu. they have not gone away. it is not just this attack which is ongoing. i am told they are launched some attacks inside somalia. >> reporter: when we were there was during the famine. that was a turning time within the support they were getting within the local communities. it was after that, we saw the kenyans go in and they issue pushed out of the capital and urban centers. back in may when i was there, we were in this amazing period of renewal. that somalia might be coming into some sort of stability. in more recent days and weeks, a sense that al shabaab has been regrouping and they are receiving new injections of finance.

you get a sense that the global terror networks and something we have been hearing from the kenyan foreign minster and they believe the attack is not just al shabaab. this is part of al qaeda and a broader terror network. the they realized what they lost when they lost that. extraordinary territorial -- when they lost that territorial footprint in somalia and this is part of their fight back. they are trying to show not only that al shabaab is still in the game and it's still capable of putting on this complexity and magnitude but that al qaeda is still in the game here. >> all right. appreciate the reporting. the terrorist clearly timed their attack on the shopping mall for maximum impact. they struck around noon on saturday when the mall was certain to be packed. an ordinary weekend shattered by bullets and panic. nick handler, an american who works in kenya was at a cafe

in the mall with his toddler daughter and his pregnant wife was shopping on another floor. walk us through what happened. you were sitting with your daughter in a cafe at the mall. what happened? >> yes and my wife was doing shopping upstairs. she had left us a couple of minutes before. we had a loud explosion and blasts of gunshots. i happened to be close to the door. i reached over and ran out the front door of that cafe. as fast as i could without looking back. >> did you have an idea where you were going? did you have a destination in mind? >> i didn't know if there was an exit over there. i saw people heading in that direction. i got lucky and happened to be a door to the outside. >> where did you find to hide? are after i went outside,

i was in sort of a loading zone serviced the restaurants and the supermarket in that area, there was a wave of people running back away from the parking lot towards the area where i was standing so i sort of turned and ran back towards a loading dock at the bam of the mall. ended up heading up a flight of stairs and ended up there by some employs who suggested that was a place to go and ended up inside the storeroom. >> how many people were in the storeroom or ended up there with you? >> i would say there were about 40 people. >> how big of a room was it? >> it's quite large. it's a place where they stored a lot of inventory. >> your wife is pregnant with your second child. she was not with you as you said. did you have an idea where she was? >> once i made it in, i was able

to call her and i found out that she was on the second floor initially and made her way up to a movie theater on the third floor and was waiting there and we were uncertain what to do. we were both trying to contact our friend outside who might have information on what was happening. letting them know where we were and finding out anything we could as far as a safe place to go. >> she was hiding in the movie theater. how was your child doing during all of this? did she have an idea what was going on? she is 2 years old? >> yes, almost 2. the first moments are kind of a blur when i picked her up and started running. i know she was definitely shocked and there was fear and she was upset, but once we made it inside of that storeroom and settled down and we were there for quite sometime, she really sort of returned to her normal self.

>> how long were you and your daughter hiding in the storeroom? >> i would say about three hours. >> wow. >> in total. >> it must have been incredibly scary to not have a sense of what's going on and where the terrorists are. and if somebody could be right outside the door. >> i would say the scariest moment was when some people started to leave about an hour and a half into our time there and then i made it about halfway across the room. all of a sudden a wave of people came running back. at that point, i had no idea if we had been discovered and somebody knew where we were and was coming after us. that was definitely the most terrifying moment when we were in that room. >> do you know why they ran back? >> i would assume they heard gunshots outside. they thought maybe it was safe to leave. as they go to out, they heard there were still gunshots. >> after three hours, the police found you?

>> after three hours, a bunch of plain clothesed police came to the door and let everyone know they were safe and reopened the door from the inside. they led us down a safe exit out to the parking lot. those people were heros and absolutely saved our lives and the lives of so many people at the mall. my wife as well. she never would have made it off the roof of the mall if it weren't for two plain clothesed police if they didn't secure the way down for them. >> she was rescued before you were? >> yeah, probably maybe an hour or so before i was. >> nick, i'm so glad you and your wife and your daughter are okay. and thank you so much for talking to me. >> absolutely. thank you very much. >> scary stuff. let us know what you think. follow me on twitter. just ahead, more on the terror

attack. tyler hicks, a photographer, happened to be nearby when the terror attack began. he ran into the mall and did what he was trained to do and got the dramatic and first images during the attack. i will talk to him about what he saw. >> graphic video of a family of a florida man whose death is ruled an accident showing the moment of a police car running over him. they call it an execution. the medical examiner called it something else entirely. of all? having the right partner at my side. it's so much better that way. [ male announcer ] have the right partner at your side. consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. go long.

recap tonight's breaking news on the nairobi terror attack. "the washington post" reports that two or three americans are among the gunmen with the group al shabaab. there were many witnesses who

were inside the mall that saw things they will never forget. i talked to one, tyler hicks, "the new york times" photographer. documented the terror with his camera. he just happened to be inside the mall shopping, living there with his wife. also a television journalist. we'll show you some of the pictures and the video they shot. i want to warn you. the images are obviously disturbing. tyler hicks, you were right next door on a shopping errand when you noticed something was going on. explain what you first saw when you ran out into the mall. >> reporter: the moment i got out on the street, from where i could see, i saw lots of people running towards me, away from westgate mall. and about a minute later, i arrived in the kind of entrance parking lot. and i could already see there

were injured people coming out clearly, who had been shot in the leg. stomach, other parts of the body. and people really streaming out of the mall completely terrified. frantic, crying, people running with children. it was clear something really serious was happening inside. >> and from your photographs, i mean -- and we're looking at them now, it looks like you were with a group of police officers or commandos? >> yes, when i reached the upper parking lot area, i could see at the opposite end of the mall there were some civilians running out. and i saw that as a possible way to get in. i -- once going through that door, there was a service entrance, there were some police in there trying to get the people out. and they were agreeable to having me and a few other photographers along with them as

they were sweeping through, looking for these -- whoever was shooting. they didn't know who they were yet. they didn't know what group was responsible for that. and also desperately trying to get civilians out as quickly as possible before more people were killed. >> you must have been concerned not only about the attackers inside, but about ieds, explosive devices that they could have planted? >> yes, yeah, i mean once i looked into the center area of the mall down into lower floors and saw that there were bodies around on the ground floor, big pools of blood, people scattered around, it really -- it was clear that these guys were just indiscriminately killing people. they were still in there. and that is something that you really have to think about also. in a mall, in a big open air

mall like that, there is no -- there is really no cover. there is very little place to hide. they really have the advantage. they're already in there. they can be in the aisles of the supermarket or in a casino or a movie theater. there is hundreds -- thousands of places to hide and to wage an attack from. >> the fact that it is taking kenyan security forces so long to try to contain this situation, is it that they're out-matched or is it just as you said, this is an incredibly difficult area where it is tough to get control, and you're up against people who are more than willing to die? >> yes, this is the problem, they don't know exactly how many people were in the mall. and they don't know if the people who were remaining and are remaining are being held by

them or if -- as hostages. or if they're just hiding. you know, it is clear that a lot of people were killed. and so the question is you know, you can't just go rushing in there with people who are very willing to kill civilians. and perfectly happy to die themselves to become martyrs for the cause. >> your wife is a tv journalist. she was in the mall also covering this. she shot some incredible video that i want to show. was there ever a point where you thought this is too dangerous? i mean, you have covered wars in iraq and afghanistan where you thought this was too unsafe, i should leave? >> well, not really. i mean, it was dangerous. and there was some shooting going on of the and obviously, there are people who -- many, many people who were injured and killed there. it was one of those moments when i really felt like this was very important to cover. and worth to be there for as

long as -- i was taking as much care as i could. the problem was, it became very clear within the first ten or 15 minutes that the people who i was traveling around the mall with, you know, do just as little as i did. and that is the one thing that is unsettling when you're there, when you realize they had no idea where these guys were either. >> well, i'm glad you are okay, tyler, and your wife, as well. and thank you for taking the time to talk to me. >> thank you. >> amazing he happened to be so close. as you heard from tyler hick's report, nairobi's westgate shopping mall really popular with foreigners and westerners. it is clear the terrorists didn't choose it at random. joining me is bob bayer and imagine. this washington post report that two or three americans were

among the attackers, talking to kenyans and pbs, talking to them, does that surprise you? there were two or three americans among them? >> no, it doesn't surprise us, in america, britain, and kenya itself, 11% of kenya's population is muslim, the vast majority of them are peaceful and law abiding. but it does mean that there are large areas where there are shabaab sympathizers, and joining them, here in britain people are very concerned about it. >> yeah, i believe the first suicide bombing by an american was actually by a somali-american who joined al shabaab a couple of years ago in mogadishu.

one spokesperson said they cannot confirm -- they don't have enough information to verify if americans were in fact involved in these attacks. so right now this is just information coming from the kenyan foreign minister by pbs. the shopping mall frequented by the westerners, it reminded me a lot of the mumbai terror attacks where you have a relatively small amount of gunmen who caused panic in a city by taking over a well-known landmark. >> exactly, anderson, these are soft targets. there is no way to protect them. you can put armed guards at the front entrance but it is not enough. and once a team deploys inside a shopping center, it is virtually impossible for police to figure out where they are. it has taken, in nairobi, almost three days now to clear that place. the same goes for the united states. they're easy targets. high visibility, you can get the message you want to convey across. and it doesn't surprise me at all, frankly, that they went after one. >> it did surprise me, because i was in mogadishu two years ago,

basically after al shabaab had been kicked out by peace-keeping forces. and it seemed like they were on their heels basically in the southern part of the country. does this seem to you a resurgence of them, and maybe a sign they have been out there, just cooling their heels for a while? >> well, they have been on the edge of al qaeda. we have to consider this in a long chain of events where al qaeda are re-grouping. i believe that we have prematurely declared we have have defeated al qaeda. and this was perhaps for election purposes. and al qaeda have completed far more than we would have dreamed. they are occupied territory. an area the size of france came under their control. now with this attack in kenya,

somalia and al shabaab have demonstrated and are capable, despite having been expelled from somalia, they are capable to launch attacks like was done in mumbai. >> and yet, bob, it is not a high impact attack like was on the towers. it was a terror, sophisticated attack, but as you said it can have a large impact. >> absolutely, we have to look at the totality, nigerian, mali, you have al-qaeda there, you have niger, libya, still a mess. and on top of it you have syria. so i agree that there is a resurgence that we're seeing. the question is where will they attack next? >> and you have been on our program a number of times, you have a new book about the transformation you actually

became an islamic extremist while you were in prison in egypt. you have now completely changed your mind, and actually sort of preach to others and try to convince others to leave extremism behind. can you understand why -- and i think it is hard for many americans to understand why some somali-americans, a small number compare to the smaller community in the united states, but a small number of somali-americans would choose to leave their lives here and go back to somalia, in many cases they never even remembered, from where they were born, to fight for this group? >> yes, anderson, the sad situation is that islamism, and the violent strand of islamism known as jihadism, have been the established mode of the day for people in the middle east. picture it as a form of communist. the communist ideology is dead today, but those who want to pick up a flag, raise the ideology, raising themselves

through the prism. that has become a brand. it no longer requires recruitment per se. it is glittering and attracts on its own accord. young men find themselves pretty much as che guevara, leaving their countries to join a war that perhaps they have nothing to do with. to join a war they have nothing to do because they find this brand appealing. and the problem is that we don't have an alternative discourse on the grass roots to challenge this ideology. >> his new book "radical" comes out in a couple of weeks, i have read it. it's fascinating. good to have you both on. will president obama meet iran's new president at the united nations this week? what the latest buzz is saying. we'll be right back.

>> reporter: tonight, president obama for the new opening of the general assembly. and the new president of iran made it clear he intends to establish new dialogue with the west, possibly the united states. president obama addresses the general assembly tomorrow where he will undoubtedly talk about containing syria's stockpile of chemical weapons. what is the possibility of the meeting between president obama and the iranian president? john sciutto joins us from the u.n. what is the possibility of a meeting between president obama and the iranian president? >> well, it is still possible but no commitment. u.s. officials say there is no meeting scheduled yet. i think irstarting to see some expectations and management from

u.s. official in case the meeting doesn't happen because if there is is no handshake or meeting on the sidelines, they don't want this story to be here that the new effort at diplomacy has fizzled. and in relate, there reality, there is some truth to that. we do know that secretary kerry will meet with his counterpart, the iranian foreign minister, as well as the five members of the council with germany, on the meetings between the u.n. secretary of state and the foreign minister since 2007. and just thinking about where we were last year at the u.n. general assembly, things are dramatically more positive. but it is still possible you don't have that iconic moment here of the u.s. president shaking the iranian president's hand. >> well, it shows you what the state of the relations is, even a handshake would be considered an iconic moment. the u.s., though, is clearly trying to keep the focus on syria this week? >> reporter: no question, and up until a week ago before all this excitement of the iranian meeting came up, it really was the focus.

and remains so for secretary kerry and his team. they want a resolution in the u.n. security council to come out that they are enshrining the chemical weapons, and of course, the u.s. still disagreeing on the u.s. of military force if syria doesn't imply. and still a lot of hurdles to overcome in getting to a resolution to back the geneva deal. >> all right, thank you very much, jim sciutto. man running from police and killed by the police car following him. the family is calling it an execution. there is the video there. the medical examiner says it was an accident. you will hear both sides of the story and can decide for yourself. also, the pictures of the little girl with her adoptive parents. she has been at the center of a custody battle that has gone on for half of her life. will they finally, finally get to bring her home? details ahead.

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welcome back, our "crime and punishment" segment, a florida family is demanding a federal investigation into the death of a loved one, his name is marlon brown, who was run over by a police officer, the death caught by the dashboard camera. the family was outraged. the family decided to release the dash cam video to the public as a way to pressure the prosecutors to file criminal

charges. i want to warn you, the video is graphic. you may find it disturbing. randi kaye has their story. >> reporter: you are watching the final moments of a man's life, caught on police dash cam video. it is 12:38 a.m. on may 8th and marlon brown is running from the police. a volusia county police officer tried to stop him earlier for not wearing a seat belt. from there, the police officer and another police officer pick up the pursuit each in their own patrol car. they spot brown down there at that intersection. they tail him until he makes it to a dead end. brown pulls over and takes off running and jumps running to a vacant lot. the officer stays on him. >> he was chasing a man down with a 4,000 pound car, he had to realize there was a risk here. >> what my client is trying to do is drive towards the back of

the lot where he can stop, and then exit his vehicle. he is not attempting to strike anyone. >> reporter: a warning. what happens next is hard to watch. one finally glance toward the oncoming police car, and brown disappears underneath it. it all happened so fast, brown is only on foot for about six seconds. [ bleep ] >> reporter: moments later, the other officer looks under the car with a flash light. then they attempt to get the car off brown. >> we got to get this car off now. >> reporter: by the time fire rescue crews arrive to lift the car, the 38-year-old father of two is dead. crystal brown is marlon's ex-wife. >> you look at that video, you don't see a swerve. you don't see -- you don't even hear, oh, my god, as you impact. >> reporter: the medical examiner said that brown died

from mechanical asphyxia. the weight of the car that cut off his oxygen. the m. e. also found in evidence he was struck by the vehicle, no skull fractures or pelvic fractures, ruling that brown slipped and fell. and only then did the police car come to a stop on top of him. he ruled the death accidental. >> i don't buy it one bit. you see him sitting up directly in front of the car. he sees the car coming. >> he lost his footing and he fell down, and that was because of the wet turf and the loose dirt. and that is the same thing that made it difficult to stop the car. >> reporter: do you believe your client tried to slow down? >> oh, absolutely. >> reporter: just weeks ago, the state attorney general announced that a grand jury decided to not indict the officer for vehicular manslaughter. frustrated and angry, crystal brown and her family made the dash cam video public, hoping it will force an independent investigation by federal agencies.

testimony from an expert on police practices was also included as part of the evidence. the expert found that officer harris was driving carelessly, given the wet grass and the darkness. he also said the officer violated the department's policy of non-pursuit, except after a forcible felony. the police chief fired harris the same day he washed the dash cam video. marlon brown had been in and out of jail for drugs and fraud. he was just released the month before he died. friends in the car with him that night told police he fled because he was so afraid of going back to jail. randi kaye, cnn, florida. and let's talk more about the case. the attorney for marlon's family and the attorney formerly representing casey anthony. you believe this was an execution? >> well, i think when you look at the velocity that he came at marlon brown that night,

regardless if he fell down that night, that car came straight at him. take a look at the video. >> you think the car hit marlon intentionally? >> you have no doubt the car actually hit marlon? >> no doubt, absolutely, that is why we can't believe the m. e. says there was no intentional contact. you look at it with your own eyes, at best, it is inaccurate, at worst, it's some kind of conspiracy to conceal the truth from us. >> jose, you agree with the grand jury's decision. you don't think the officer did anything criminal, is that correct? >> well, i think it was stupid, negligent, but does it rise to the level of being criminal? and i don't think this is an issue where we have someone that is reckless to the extent of criminal liability. i don't think anyone could condone this officer's actions. but does it rise to that level of criminality? and i think the grand jurors made the decision based on the information they had. >> jose, to you, does it make a difference that the officer actually hit brown with the vehicle?

>> no, i don't think so. it was an accident. you clearly see this was a situation where it was an accident. i don't think anyone can get in that officer's head and say this is -- there is some type of evidence here where he clearly wanted to run him down and run him over. just based on what we see, now, there may be something outside of this video that tells us otherwise, but based on what i see, this is a tragic accident. people get hit every single day with cars. and that doesn't make it criminal. >> what about that? is it possible the grass was slippe slippery, the officer had a hard time stopping? >> jose knows vehicle homicide, you just have to show the person was reckless, had due disregard for human safety or life. and it caused somebody to die. look at that video, he came around two police cars who were stopped. it is proven that he was reckless, he intended to get to marlon brown, and you see it. you don't have to take anybody's word for it. >> why would he want to hit this

person with the vehicle? you say he intended to? >> you think about the whole mentality. they are chasing him for the seat belt violation, they don't do it in certain communities, they only do it here they would chase somebody for a seat belt violation. >> you're saying that community is predominantly -- it is african-american? >> absolutely, they don't pursue other communities like that. >> there are lots of problems throughout the state of florida that different counties have, pursuit, different pursuit policies. there is no uniform policy across the state of florida. so you -- mr. crump is absolutely correct. this is a huge problem throughout our communities. >> ben, i understand that the county has already paid the brown family more than $500,000. what is it now that you're looking for? >> the civil settlement is completely irrelevant to the criminal matter. we are looking for -- if that medical examiner's report is inaccurate and she shows that

there is new evidence that the car did hit marlon brown. go back to that grand jury and with the new evidence and hold him accountable just as if jose or i or any of our friends or relatives had did that, they would have been charged. >> what about autopsy results? does that conclusively show anything? >> well, the autopsy is done by this medical examiner who works with the police officer. >> you would like a separate autopsy? >> absolutely, and also we think there is other evidence that shows he was hit. and that, we believe, will come out. >> anderson, you know what the biggest problem here is that this prosecutor did not seek out a special prosecutor to investigate this case. this prosecutor actually investigated their own case and sent it to the grand jury. and that is what gives the appearance of impropriety here. had they reached the statewide prosecutor's office and asked them to take over the investigation, might have seen a different result or you might have seen the same exact result. but that really casts a shadow over this prosecutor that leads people to question.

and rightfully so. >> a 12 and 13-year-old child saw this video, and they believe it is completely erroneous that their father was hit by that car. >> thanks to both of you for joining us. the center of a custody battle we have reported on for months. reunited with the adoptive parents. the question is, will she go home with them soon? the latest is ahead. plus, the former nfl player who said teenagers held a party in his home, trashed it while he was away. they broke into his home. he asked them to come and clean up the mess. we'll tell you how many of them actually showed up. word... if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts... well muddlers, muddle no more. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour one on the first day you take it. claritin® doesn't start working until hour three. zyrtec®. love the air.

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time now for the ridiculist. and the emmys last night, they thought they would talk about the prices and the snubs. beyond that, i really don't care. why else do people actually watch the emmys? all right, i guess to see what the stars are wearing, maybe we could do a best dressed/worse dressed list.

but truly, our staff couldn't be equipped to do the best dressed list, we couldn't talk about how many times someone wore the same sweatshirt without it falling apart. but evening wear? not so much. what does that leave? the acceptance speeches. people's names you don't know, and people are there with their agents. accompanied by surprise, and follow your dreams cliches, until the music gets loud enough to put us out of our misery. then last night, a winner gave a speech about what the speech should be. here is what she said in its entirety. >> thank you so much, um, thank you so much. um -- i got to go. bye. >> there, concise, authentic,

passionate. it was the gettysburg address of emmy speeches. and after a commercial break, neil patrick harris summed it up the only appropriate way. >> merle weaver, best speech ever. good luck, everyone else. >> so when she took questions after the speech, she had a moment to gather her thoughts and remembered what she wanted to say. >> i wanted to thank a lot of people. oh, it is happening again. i wanted to thank everybody at showtime and thank most of all edie falco. it is hard to do those. sorry. yeah. i'm scared. i'm scared because -- it was unexpected. so i don't know how to feel yet. i mean, i have therapy next week. >> i like someone who is not in touch with their emotions, doesn't know how they feel until about a week later. her real speech was better, frankly. i also think we should all use