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my mom is probably the best scrabbler. pretty good upwards. everyone is pretty good. equally. >> what are you good at? >> backgammon, checkers. >> interesting. i can talk about this for hours. >> ac 360 later starts right now. >> tonight senator ted cruz's marathon speech, met with among many of his fellow republicans. also a killer attack. under surveillance video shows the shooter with a sawed off shotgun in hand. a new include about the mysterious etchings on his gun might mean. outrage on the eve of a convicted rapist released from prison. his victim was 14-years-old, she later killed herself. i'll talk to the victim's mother
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ahead. all of that in the next hour. the only report you will see here, a year long investigation by c dm n found widespread fraud. a drug rehab program that receives hefty dollars. more than 100 rehab centres were suspended. others were completely shut down. tonight our investigation continues. it goes beyond the clinics. it looks at the doctors who serve as medical directors. one doctor, in particular, is medical director at more clinics than yen one else. under the law, he doesn't have to see patients at all. he has found a way to make money off the whole thing. >> this is another group room. >> when we first met dr. oliver this past january, he had every
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intention of telling us and showing us just how much good taxpayer funded drug rehab clinics do in southern california. >> be patient. >> where at places like west coast counseling center and clinics, oliver has been the physician, overseeing the treatment of close to 2,000 patients. >> so are you the medical director? >> medical director. >> what does that mean in terms of your responsibilities? >> it means i'm responsible for asuring they have a quality medical assurance that our referrals are for, i get referrals for medical care. i insure that they are able to undergo treatment here there at the time of our interview, we questioned how that could be physically possible that one man could essentially care for 2,000 people. slaenks county had been
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wondering the same thing in the past, especially when his name or more specifically his 60 kept coming up again and again on blank medical forms. a practice a foreman state official found opens the door to fraudulent billing practices. >> it shows care in los angeles. >>ism maclat care, yes. >> that owner convicted of fraud. during the investigation, a counsellor says you seend off on stacks of medical records without reading them is there that's not true. >> it's not true? >> no. >> that was a lie? >> yes. >> you don't sign off on stacks of medical records? zpli sign off on stacks of medical records but i review them. >> you do review them? >> oliver says his signatures were forgeries. oliver's signature is worth a lot of money. he is needed for clinics like
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these, to submit bills to the county and state for reimbursement 789ment. for that signature, oliver is paid well. up to $1,500 aen moth, he told us, for the tr clinics where he has been working. but since this interview in january his business has gone bust because of this. >> i don't know. >> just one second, sir. >> did he call back and say he's not coming? >> this past july, cnn and the center for investigative reporting exposed widespread fraud in the nation's largest medicaid system. we found in the last two fiscal years, half of the nearly 186 million dollars spent for drug medical about $94 million went to clinics that have shown questionable billing practices or signs of fraud. california has now suspended 132 clinic locations that were being
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run by 56 headquarters. 14 of those have the same medical director. dr. howard oliver. one called able family 1 run bacon victed felon we revealed in our investigation. >> you can explain how can a guy with a record like you be operating it in california? to texas? >> i was convicted. but it's not what it seems. >> oliver says he didn't know and isn't expected to know the background of the people he works for. able family, meanwhile, has shut down. among the allegations against the drug rehab industry from our series, that bills were submitted for patients that do not have addiction, for patients that do not receive treatment and for patients that did not even exist. all treatments that would have been approved and signed by a
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doctor, where rosario was an intern for five months and the medical director was dr. howard oliver. >> what was he signing? >> in order for us to receive the money for the client, he has to sign the documents saying that he's read over the material that we put down. >> you think he'd sign just about anything? . >> i know that he's signed whatever we put out there. >> no matter what? >> even if it was wrong. if it was a wrong name on a wrong time, he would sign it. >> immaculate care suspended by the state has shut down t. deputy director was suspicious about dr. oliver after learning about the blank forms. she filed a report on him six years ago when at the time the report claimed oliver was medical director of 69 fin i
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clinic locations overseeing treatment plans from 2,200 patients. >> and you found that troubling to say the least? >> well, we had questions about that and that's why we were asking the medical board for direction. >> what happened? this found nothing. >> we found situations such as this. we would send it to department of health care services and department of justice. they're the ones that will determine if there is going to be any further action on. the one person who still says he didn't see or know of anything e any wrongdoing is dr. oliver, who met us again, just this month at west coast counseling, one of 14 clinics he is associated with who have been sent a letter by the state oerkd them suspended. >> the letter that you just showed me said one of the reasons this particular facility
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has been temporarily closed down, lack of medical supervision. >> yes. >> you are the medical director. >> he runs a private practice, has been medical director and has found time to afear on tv show shows. >> just a few minutes. >> including as a frequent guest on cnn's sister network hln as the medical expert for nancy grace. how he handles all this while overseeing the drug reham of thousands of california drug medical recipients is easy, he explains. he doesn't actually see most of the people getting treatment, who he says are clients, by the way, not patients. and he even admits he wouldn't foe if they are real or as fraud investigators call them ghost patients. >> you are helping these clinics bill the state for ghost clients. >> well, i don't know that
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they're ghost clients. >> exactly. what is your point of being a medical director here, if you don't know these clients are real people. >> well, it sounds like you are asking me to be the police here. i'm not the police. i got certain duties. >> you are a physician, right? >> yes. >> physicians treat people? >> yes. >> people are real and they breathe air. >> right. >> but these clinics are billing for anything. >> i don't have to question every client that comes in here and to investigate every client that comes in here. >> it sounds like you don't have a duty to investigate any of them. you just sign off on paperwork. >> i don't have a duty investigate. that's true. i have certain duties that i have that are prescribed by law.
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>> basically, you have those doubts. >> you are a lerk? >> that's your definition. >> what's your definition? seriously, you could be signing a treatment plan there i don't know that they exist. again, do i what the law requires me to do. >> so dr. oliver is not blake i breaking the law. >> the law allows him to do what he a s allowed to do. no one ever needs to see that patient. even if it's to see a patient exists. we should poind i point out some of these clinics aren't rolling over. as we said, 14 of the 19 are now suspended, including the one where we did this latest interview, that clinic is fighting its suspension for what the state says is a lack of medical oversight, missing
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treatment plans and apparently manufactured documents. >> what does the state say about dr. oliver? >> well, over the years, the state has claimed multiple actions resulting in stshl fines. at one point he was suspended from the state's medical system. it hasn't really stopped anything. we are told there is going to be a big change coming in january when these medical directors, like oliver who have to enroll as medical providers, that, anderson, will supposedly subject them to much more oversight and speaking of oversight, tomorrow in sacramento, california lawmakers will be grilling the bureaucrats running this program, asking the questions we've tried to ask, how could you know or suspect so much fraud is and has been going on and done so very little to stop it. >> unbelievable. drew, thanks so much. >> you can phone in twitter@@anderson cooper. just ahead, ted cruz's all niert
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may have won points. will his crusade cost him? i will talk to a member of his own party calling cruz a fraud talking the hall ways. the fbi said he believe is his mind was under attack. if you delusion he may have been battling.
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. >> senator ted cruz brought some of his lawmakers to the boiling point. he pulled an all nighter, talking in an effort to keep senate democrats to restore funding in case you missed it, it's gun u down to one minute. >> madam president, i arrived in opposition we saw in britain, neville chamberlain who told the
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british people except the nazis, yes, they'll dominate the continent of europe. that's not our problem. i'm a big fan of eating castle burger. you do not like green eggs and ham. i do not like them, sam i am i can dell you as i said at 2:30 in the afternoon yesterday, i intend to stand against obamacare as long as i can stand. at this point i feel confident i will be able to stand. there will come a point when that is no longer the case. we have fought yet reached that point. >> just hours after they stopped talking, senator cruz moved yes on a spending plan to restore funding to obamacare. you aren't alone. senator cruz's marathon speech left a lot scratching their head. they were in the minority.
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the majority were less than supportive. >> what did it accomplish? it said for cruz's cause pack. >> i don't happen to think filibustering a bill is the best route to obamacare. >> who dominate in the republican party? >> we cannot only controlling one house of congress tell the president we're not going to fund any portion of this. >> those who were co luters can stand with him. >> we will stand with the american poem. >> ted cruz is a fraud. >> pretty blunt stuff. especially representative peter king. he joins me tonight. you used harsh words, why do you say senator cruz is a fraud? >> because he is selling a
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strategy he knows is doomed to failure. he knew that, doing tv ads and robocalls, saying we can defund obama and that would work. it cannot work. the senate control. there is no way he will agree to have obamacare funded. >> is this about his own ego? >> i'm not a psychiatrist. i assume he's enjoying the mailing list. he is putting himself in a position, whether he will run for president or become a folk hero for people. >> do sarah palin and others, conservatives say, look, he's standing on principal, trying to make washington listen? >> to me, this is the charge of the life brigade, a kamikaze
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pilot. he's standing for a strategy that can't work. it will help him as far as his political status. bad for the country. bad for the republican party. >> he made a wave on how must bes would want them to vote. i want to play that. >> if you grab 100 year constituents, it wouldn't be a 50-50 proposition. i would think it would be a 60-40 proposition. your constituents overwhelmingly would say no don't vote to give harry reid the ability to fund obamacare without fixing this train wreck or stopping this nightmare. >> congressman, who do you say to that? would your constituents to vote even if it meant a deposit shutdown? >> no, it would not at all. they know, it was like a medicine man here, selling goods the knows are phony goods and
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really taking a good cause, the cause of trying to dismantle obamacare, repeal it and using it to his own purposes in a way that will hurt us and help the president. >> all the polling shows that, quite frankly, i think it should. the debt ceiling is a whole separate issue. the president should negotiate with us. if he can negotiate with putin he should be able to sit down with john boehner. in defunding obamacare, we will be. >> this is unusual for a member of congress to be tough on a member of his own party, saying he is a fraud. what he is doing is about his own fundraising and mailing list, why are you speaking out like this? >> i don't think you have loyalty to ted cruz, he spent the last months of the summer trying to put republicans on the
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spot, trying to force, basically intimidate republican members of congress to vote his way with the implicit threats or primaries. he had no regard or respect for us so why should we respect him at all. it's not just personality. at this time way he did what he did and is trying to do and continues to do. he is cleiateing again real problems for the republican party. he asked me why i attacked him. for a governmental purpose, it is wrong. we cannot go down this path over an issue where we lost and continue to fight. not by shutting the government down. >> how does this end? >> hopefully, it will end over the weekend. i know john boehner wants to make it work. i know eric cantor wants it to, who. we want the government to shut
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down. they should not be able to happen. doing it this way, enough of us realize, hopefully enough pressure will be brought we have to resolve this by the weekend or monday at the latest. >> appreciate it. thanks. >> anderson, thank you. >> we want to talk with newt gingrich, a former house speaker, also chief congressional correspondent dana bash and speaker gingrich, tea party supporters and tea partiers that support cruz, they're using this so-called filibuster, this speech he made as a fundraising toll one wrote your gift will make a tangible fight immediately. now there is not a moment to lose. is that really true, though, will giving money make a tangible difference right now and for cruz as peter king said, do you believe this is about building a mailing list,
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fundraiser in. >> it's interesting. when you had anti-war democrats deeply opposed, speaking, raising money. i don't remember very many people challenging their motives. ted cruz ran ocean that he would fight in washington. he didn't promise he would win. he promised he would fight. he is proving to be a pretty clever guy. he had virtually every person in the country talking about it. i did five different interviews across the country. every single interview brought up what is ted cruz doing? i think he shmaking a case. he may well lose in the end. an awful lot of republicans would rather fight than surrender, let's do nothing, let's give in. after all, it's too difficult to deal with the president. our constitution doesn't require us to roll ever a e over and accept everything the president demands. >> you are asking about ted cruz, not obamacare. >> obamacare got in the mix. if he didn't do what he did, you
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wouldn't have this conversation the last 24 hours. i think in that sense, he represents as does mike lee as does rand paul, a new generation of republicans, i would just point out, peter king, i believe, voted for the very bill that he is now attacking because he voted to take obamacare out of the government and the continuing resolution. so let's be clear, the underlying pressure of conservatives has actually moved the base of the republican party on this issue a fair distance. i would say in the last six weeks. >> david, do you agree? >> i agree with him on one fundamental point. >> that is ted cruz through this effort has made himself more of a hero among tea party types. >> no doubt about it. >> that's what he wanted. anderson, a few days ago, he said something which alienateing house republican conservatives. but, even though you got a lot
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of pub lissty, it's not all good publicity. for the vast majorities, that irshacking their heads saying what is going wrong with the republican party? why are we being treated like this? is this guy ready for prime time? from my point of view, you will disagree, i'm sure. yes, the republican party has to fight t. growing opportunity for republicans to take back the senate next year and to take back the white house in 2016 is going to be blown if people think the party will take them hostage. >> the voting strategy speaks of drumming up conservative report. how so? >> i think if you look at the raw numbers, it is clear that at this point he simply doesn't have the vote. >> that is why a lot of republicans, there already no liberals like tom coburn of oklahoma. he is one of the fiscally conservatives on capitol hill. he says, look, elections have
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consequences. we only have the house ofs are. we don't have a full branch of government. what are we going to do about it? i agree with both the speaker and david what ted cruz has done is absolutely energized the conservative base and no question that was what this was about. to get people pushing the dial, pushing people like peter king who the speaker is right, he did ends up begrudgingly voting for this, in order to do this. but that really has caused a very deep risk within the republican party, which is why leaders here wanted ted cruz to stop, did not want him to do this. because, yes, people are talking about obamacare and some of the substance, but people are also talking about the republican party. >> piers morgan asked about the shutdown in the mid-'90s and his relationship with you. >> we work it out when he was
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trying to run me out of town when we were working together. i now it was a ec jo. it was a game to him. he thought, you know he once said the difference between us is we will do whatever you can and you won't do that. you think there are things you shouldn't do. and once i realized what the deal was, i let him do whatever he could. then we did business on the side. and you aref laing, but that's really we reached an acol days ago. >> is that how you remember it? >> partly. i think we were a lot more principal than that. the underlying reality was that all through the two shutdown, which, by the way, nate silver has written a very good piece pointing out, probably had zero impact politically and has been grossly exaggerated in the washington establishment. all through that fight, bill clinton and i could talk t. big difference in washington today is i don't sense that barack
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obama has anything like the personal skills. we went face-to-face negotiating. i got beaner and obama spent 35 minutes in a serious conversatio conversation. >> so, david, it hasn't gotten much conen thetious? >> the polls showed after the two shutdownssh republicans got hurt. most the republicans leaders opposing what ted cruz is doing, they have memories of what happened mitch mcconnell doesn't want to shut down the government. >> very quickly the big difference 2009 the mid-90s when the spoker was here and now the speaker doesn't have much power. we see that with ted cruz. he doesn't have the control.
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>> dana, thank you. up next, the fbi releases under surveillance. he opened fire on innocent people. we will see what investigators have learned about the gunmen and those carved into his weapon. new developments of a montana student, the man who raped her is about to walk out of jail in 30 days. we will talk to the victim's mom ahead.
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. >> today the navy guard shooter, you see him holding a shotgun he used to murder 12 people. you see him getting out of the rental car and walked into the building carrying a bag over his left shoulder. authorities believe a disassembled shot dun was in that bag. he put it together in the bathroom. he is stalking the hallways, checking different offices, doorways, looking for victims and going down a flight of stairs. you see people down the end of the hall there. he tries to hide and walks quickly scopes down the hallway. >> that circle at the top of the screen, you see people already running out of the building. we should point out the security cameras caught him firing the weapon. today we learned a lot more about the deadly rampage. joe johns is in washington tonight. i watched this video. it's so disturbing.
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the silence of it. it seems like his movements are very difficult at this point, though, do investigators know, was he specifically targeting anyone at the navy yard? >> anderson, it was apparently random. the fbi says he wasn't targeting anybody in particular. there was some routine performance-related issue they tell us. it was addressed with alexis on the friday before the shooting. really, no investigation to verts that it was the thing that caused any sort of reaction from him. >> i know the fbi released information about the shooter's mental state. >> we know he etched phrases in a shotgun and now we know a lot more about that. the fbi said he held a delusional belief he was being controlled or influenced by extremely low frequency or elf, electronic ways. they found writings apparently on his computer. they got a search warrant for multiple e-mail accounts. he wrote the ultralow frequency
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attack is what i suffered for, for months. to be honest that, is what has driven me the elf technology, it does exists. it's a legitimate program for naval submanner communication. >> there is conspiracies. there were other etchings on the shotgun as well. >> a number. one said end to the torment. another said, not what you all say. and better off this way. so taken altogether, he wrote quite a bit on that shotgun. >> i appreciate it. thank you very much. there is a lot more happening. >> investigators in kenya are sifting 32 you the rubble of the west gate mall looking for bodies and includes. part of the mall collapsed. 61 officer security officer were
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killed. pope benedict 16th said he never tried to cover up the sexual abus by priests. and to the issue for oracle team usa, today they won the team usa cup in a come from behind triumph. at one point, team usa was down eight race. it was victorious in today's final match. >> amazing comeback. thanks. up next, a teach were convicted of raping his 14-year-old student. he is about to walk out of prison. we will talk to the victim's mother. also, the high school football coach who benched his entire team. we'll talk to him about why he did it. what he hopes to accomplish.
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. >> the crime and punishment segment tonight. a student's rapist is scheduled to walk out of prison after one month. the judge made appalling statement statements. the judge later apologized.
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there is a formal complaint. making the story more tragic, the young victim isn't here to speak out. she killed herself in 2010 before the case went to trial. so this guy rambled. he is serving his 30 days and will be a free man tomorrow? he is walking out. he has served his time in the sentence given and he's fulfilled that time. he will not be subject to home monitoring, for the particular address. the only caveat is there is an appeal with the montana supreme court. the prosecutors fighting the sentence, hoping he will be in jail if not longer. >> will he be on probation? >> he has to check in once he returns here, to billing, the jail he is in is four hours away. he is technically on probation until 2028.
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all that can change depending on what the supreme court says. >> what about a formal complaint filed against the judge? >> this is actually a citizen complaint. there has been so much outrage people across the country signed onto the petition. some 140,000 signatures were delivered to a state review board in boxes. people say that this judge the judge who gave that one month sentence needs to be removed from the bench, but, anderson, this is something very rare. it is difficult to get a judge removed. last we heard from him, he was intending on running for a seat again next year. >> we appreciate it. . as we mentioned, that young victim in this case killed herself. i spoke to her earlier, she says she wants justice for her daughter. obviously, she knows the teacher who raped your daughter is going to be getting out of jail
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tomorrow. does this seem real to you? >> no, it seems like yesterday they sentenced him. i don't know where the 30 days went. >> i'm sure you know a complaint was filed against this judge claiming he was biassed because she was a lower income minor hispanic female. do you believe he was prejudiced against your father for those reasons? >> i don't know. i'm not really involved with that complaint the judge is not my business. he made a mistake. i'm disappointed that, you know, 30 days, whew, that's outrageous, but the montana supreme court stepped in, hopefully, they'll macit right. >> tomorrow, when he's released, what are you going to do tomorrow? >> avoidance. i hope i never seen him. i never seen him until we were in a courtroom all those years i
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hope i never see him. >> what do you want people to remember about your daughter? >> she was fabulous, pretty, very pretty. the judge just made a mistake. i'm hoping it will get rectified. >> what's it like to be caught up in the legal system like this? i mean, when you see it on tv, it's one thing. but to see what they call justice up close, what does it make you think? >> i haven't seen justice jet. 30 days isn't justice. we'll see what happens and apparently with the courts, anything can happen. but hopefully the supreme court will say it right. because so far i haven't seen any justice. >> up next, a high school
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football coach suspend his entire team. he doesn't like the offfield behavior. issues his players a direct challenge if they want to get back on the team. we'll talk to him and hearing everything from our marketing partners,
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. >> welcome back. tradionally when a kid gets in trouble, they try to build character. he suspended the spire team t. coach of union high school in roosevelt made it quite clear to his players. accusations of poor grades, disrespecting teachers, bullying fellow students was not acceptable. he learned about cyber bullying and tried to put an end to it. his message is simple. some things are more important than winning football games. if you want to play for the team, you have to earn a spot. he suspended the entire team. coach, it's amazing what you did. what was the moment where you thought i got to do this, suspend the whole team? >> i think it all came down with
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a combination of different things that were happening throughout the past couple of weeks. we felt like the program wasn't taking the steps that we wanted to in a positive manner we sat down as a coaching staff. we need to do things in these young men's lives and to make this real. >> there were allegations of bullying, skipping classes, disrespecting teachers. you actually met with the student who was bullied, correct? >> yes. >> how did that go? why did you want to meet with him? >> i just wanted him to foe that we don't condone any of this stuff and i don't know, you know, if it was even any of our players to be honest with you. it's all anonymous. we felt we as a team feed to take a stand and take a leadership direction and change some ideas there. i just wanted this young man to know we cared about him. >> have all the parents of the football players, have they all
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supported this idea of suspending the team? >> yeah. the parents have been fantastic in their support. i'm sure they've had some questions in their minds and wondering why everybody is doing it. we didn't feel it was a punishment. we felt it was an opportunity for us to grow and for us to learn about how we can impact other people. >> so all this week at practice, you are having character building classes, what do you hope to change this week? >> i just hope that we as a team and as young men and as coaches and as a whole community, that we realize how fortunate we are to be able to do the things that we're able to do with the talents that we have been blessed with and the opportunity that we're given, i just hope that we'll realize what positive things we can do with those
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opportunities. >> do you think it's working, do players seem like they're turning around or this has made an impact on them? >> yeah, i've seen a real positive change. you know, in some. i think, you know, you teach the lessons and somewhere down the loin someone is going to learn the lesson. some will learn it this woke. some will learn it later on. they'll look back and say, you know what i wish i had learned it sooner, i am learning it now. >> tonight is the night you decide who earns the privilege to play in this week's game? have you made those decisions? do you know if the team will be reinstated? >> it's not necessarily me or our coaching staff that's deciding. it's young men, they were given a sheet that listed the criteria of what we wanted them to do. so we look forward to that tonight. because i think they've all been really trying to make some changes. >> i appreciate you talking about it. thank you. >> hey, thank you very much.
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>> he's getting support from the parents on the team and the parents. let me know what you think. coming up, a man realizes his dream to order everything at mcdonald's and make one big sandwich almost as tall as he is. it's the mceverything on the ridiculous tonight.
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. >> it's time for the ridiculous.
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the man in wisconsin dared to dream. he dared to imagine and walk in mcdonald's and not see a menu. heat your folk hero, nick. he ordered one of every sandwich on the breakfast and lunch menu and created the mceverything. a monument when he is willing to shake off the shackles of conformity. for instance, how did nick get the idea for the mceverything is what philosophical challenges did it present as he pondered whether to move forward. >> obviously, every sandwich at mcdonald begins with a mc. i wanted to by everything the mceverything. i never did it because you show up. you want one of every sandwich, they will hate you. they don't want to make 43 sandwiches for one person. >> finally, one day, not long ago, he did it. >> i said, hey, i want one of every san witch, breakfast and
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lunch. i think their main reply was, why do you want to do this. >> the question of why? >> why not? the first guy that climbed mount everest says because i can, because no one has. >> i bet costs a lot of money to climb mount everest. for one of every sandwich and a large diet coke and yes he is eating it all. >> i have been eating it for breakfast, lunch and dinner since. i think i have two or three days left to go. >> i don't know, cold leftover mcdonald's seems a little mcknaussiateing. he runs a floo food progress called dude food. most everything has bacon in it. like all innovative people who dare to dream, nick did face some naysayers when it came to the mceverything. he has this to say about .

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