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oh, my gosh, that's so good. oh, that's so good. >> mr. incredibeard we salute you. always keeping your chin up. this is piers morgan live. welcome to our viewers. the wheels of the government could grind to a halt. bill clinton told me what it's like to try and fix this kind of things. you and newt gingrich eventually worked it out. how do you get things done? >> we worked it out when he was still trying to run me out of town. >> and to the other side of the story and newt gingrich and what he thinks will happen this time.
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and what chelsea clinton tells me about her future in politics. have you thought about running for office? >> people have been asking me that question for as long as i can remember. >> and on her mother's plans. and game night in the clinton family. who wins? >> thankfully, it's a pretty equal distribution. plus maybe the greatest come back in american history. oracle team usa comes from behind. and we talk to someone who knows a thing or two about come backs. and if washington can't get along with each other, many agencies will be shut down.
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mr. speaker, welcome to you. there i was chewing the fat with bill clinton, and inevitably, your name came up. and i want to play you the full quote about what he said went on between you and he in that last shut down. listen to this. >> we worked it out when he was trying to run me out of town. we were still working together. he once said the difference between us is that we'll do whatever we can, and you won't do that. you think there are things you shouldn't do. and once i realized what the deal was i let him do whatever he could, and then we did business on the side. and you're laughing, but that's really -- we reached an accommodation. >> now mr. speaker, is that how you remember things? >> well, i think we each have other own version, but there's some key things in there that tell you a lot about why the
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city's in a bigger mess right now. when i was speaker, which was an enormous shock, because they hadn't had a republican speaker in 41 years. they filed ethics charges and did everything they could to stop me. at the same time we all ended up in a big fight with clinton. the government got closed twice. it was a very tough environment. but the thing that made president clinton so different from president obama, we could compartment compartmentalize. it wasn't that we friends, but we understood you had to find a way to work for america, even if as plitle ca rivals were you fighting over what was going on. so we had the ability to pick up the phone and sometimes very tough conversations, to pick up the phone, to get together in the same room, to keep talking. and my guess is that we spent more days together than obama and boehner have spent minutes together this year. >> i think this is fascinating.
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and it's what i've been suspecting for a while. and to hear it from bill clinton and now from you is the problem, the negotiating skills of the speaker and the president. he was fascinating about his relationship with vladimir putin. that too, plays into the same area. >> it's not necessary to trust somebody to take them up on a good offer. just pay attention to what's going on. >> now he went on to say that he would get in the rum with putin, just as he did with you -- i'm not comparing you with vladimir putin. he'd get in the room with him, throw everybody out of the room and he and putin would go at it. he did this sign when i spoke with him before the interview. and we would go at each other brutally, and we would get things done.
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and i said to you, did vladimir putin ever let you down? did he ever renig on a goal that he had given you and he said no. that he was a man of his word. what you didn't do was try to humiliate or ridicule your opponent. now exactly the same thing i think apply does that relationship between president obama and john boehner, and it screams out to me, why are they not doing that? why do they not look at what happened between you and president clinton and between clinton and putin and try to do the same thing now for the benefit of the american people? >> i think it's a really fascinating question. i noticed today the head rhine under the president on chinn wai will not negotiate. what are you going to get done? going all the way back to your native country almost 900 years ago with the mag na car at that,
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the king has to negotiate with the commons or he doesn't get any money. that's the base of the magna ta. >> you may end up with 80% of the republicans and a substantisu substantial number of democrats getting along together. if you're not talking together and not creating -- one of the things i will say about president clinton. he had an intuitive ability to grasp a situation and immediately move beyond the problem and try to figure out if there was a solution. so we were a little bit like two graduate students in that we'd get in a room and start talking and theorizing and remembering books and so forth. but in that process you get away from what you couldn't do and
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work your way to what you could do. >> i think it's absolutely fascinating that you both talk this way. it's an exact parallel. putin's still here. and the republicans and democrats are still going at each other like they were in the mid '90s. i want to play something that will send ashoulder up your spine. >> who do you think will make the better president, your wife or your daughter? >> day after tomorrow, my wife. because she's had more experience. over the long run, chelsea. she knows more than we do about everything. >> i've got a great interview coming up with chelsea clinton, which i mod rated two panels -- she is a smart cookcookie, by t way. he's basically laying down the ground work for maybe 40 more years of clinton presidency. >> who knows. i watched last night, and i was
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fascinated. and i thought as a hurks i have, calista and i have two daughters. that's a question you have to dance around a little bit, because there's no possibility of you saying the daughter is smarter now and going home. so i thought he handled that in typical clinton manner. i thought he handled it very, very artfully. and calista said this to me last night. she said that is a very bright yuck woman. >> she really is. and when you see later in this show how bright she is, how poised she is, how media savvy, how confident in front of an audience, i was impressed with chelsea clinton. it's fascinating watching bill clinton say, you could have both of them. i wouldn't get too hung up in just terms of hillary. in terms of hillary, do you think there's any doubt that she will run for the presidency in 2016? >> you always have to say there's the possibility of a health problem, an accident, something you can't imagine, but i would say the odds are 90, 95%
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she's going to run. i was wrong in 2008. i was sure she was going to be the nominee, and i clung to that all the way into april and i couldn't imagine her not winning the nomination, so my advice may be useless. but i think the odds are very high she'll be the democratic nominee. >> is there a tiny part of yourself thaw think gingrich v clinton? >> no. i don't think that's part of my immediate future. i'm having too much fun doing crossfire. i do think hillary's very formidable, very smart, she works very, very hard. and no one should underestimate how serious of a candidate she would be. >> please come back on the show soon. >> look forward to it. when we come back, clinton, the next generation. i will ask her if she will follow in her mother and
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clinton foundation, chelsea clinton. chelsea, why don't we start with you, put america to right. >> well, america is to my right. >> but -- >> i think we are putting ourselves back on the path that we need to be on. and one of the reaps i feel so strongly that that is true is because of not only the woman sitting on my right but also the woman sitting on my left. i think that young people in this country are taking control of our future and our national destiny. we are indeed mobilizing for impact, which is our theme at this year's cgi. and i think we'll hear more about that when you hear about the work they're doing both here and around the world. it's happening not only here at home but it's a global
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phenomenon. >> is your mother running for president? >> you'll have to ask her that. >> pardon me? >> you'll have to ask her. >> and america, i can't think of anybody bert named to ask about america. you're a young american woman, a lot of young american women taking charge. many think that's quite right. what are the key issues in america right now? >> i would have to agree with chelsea. i think young people are doing extraordinary things in this country. and the miss perception is that young people are disconnected and disengaged. and while i'm sure there might be some truth to that, but young people are capable of caring and capable of taking action. i do a lot of work with votes and latinos. and they are a growing
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demographic and a young demographic. the average age of latinos is 26 years old. we are ready and fired up. and we need tools and know how. and i think that will address this perception of disengagement, of apathy. i don't think that's what's happening. i think what's happening is a lack of civil society and our institutions doing the jobs to educate and empower young people. >> and a lack of opportunity. i couldn't echo america more strongly that there is this perception that the millennial generation is disaffected, disengaged. not disconnected. more than 40% of millennials have volunteered and donated to something they feel passionate about, whether it was the haiti
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earthquake or a soup kitchen. they are the most engaged generation since the great generation. and another way that manifests is yuck people raising their hands and saying i want to participate. >> this millennial thing, is there a minimum age for entry? i'm 48. die have do i have a prayer or not? or am i done? >> we could make an exception. >> i think you could be a millennial, but you'd have to come in as someone who supports young people, to speak where they can be active causes of change. whether it's giving them speaking platforms. >> let's talk about what's happening in your country, kenya. a terrible terrorist atrocity. there was an ongoing battle with
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al qaeda and all its groups that attach itself to it trying dismantle government and society. what is your reaction having been there and talked to people back in kenya? >> i think it's deplorable. it's sad. it's, the fact that the people out there who are trying to tear down what we've worked so hard to build as a country, but, the fact, at least one of the things i'm taking away from this is i've seen kenyan young people come together and go out and some of the buses are not charging people if they're going in to donate blood. people are leaning up to give food to the sewediers and volunteers. people are volunteering. this is a way to say this is my country, i need to care for whoever was hurt.
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>> clearly there is an issue now with the radicalization of homegrown terror, whether it's america or britain. we don't know where all these terrorists came from, but that looks to be a patent. we saw this in the boston marathon. we have their disaffected youth and unemployed youth. but you have this youth that are susceptible to being influenced. >> the greatest risk factor, arguably is an unemployed young man to any social system, to any society anywhere in the world. so ensuring that young people feel like we are collectively investing more in their future than in kind of either harboring past grievances or in kind of protecting the status quo is, i think, the best antidote. >> hearing you speak, chelsea, i think i can ask you this
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question not your mother, it involves you. have you ever thought about running for high office? >> people have been having me that question for as long as i can remember, literally. one of my earliest memories. the truthful answer is, is thankfully the truthful answer, i get. in that i'm deeply grateful for my life now. i love my life. i love being able to do this work. i love through the clinton global university we're like to connect with students like peggy and help connect her to more resources that can help advance her work and help connect her to young students who want to emulate her work. and i'm grateful i live in a city and a state and country where -- >> that's a brilliant answer. you can talk without referring to yes or no. >> the answer is i don't know. and that is the honest answer. because right now, i am grateful for my life.
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i'm invigorated by my life. >> have you been inspired or deterred by what's happened to your parents. >> i am deeply inspire the by my parents and deeply inspired that they have always nominated success in their lives through the impact they've had in the public sector and the private sector. their lives has always been more than about what has happened to them. i find that inspiring. so i don't know. right now, no. in the future, i don't know. >> brilliant answer. that leaves every opportunity available. this is a great moment for me. i'm going to throw questions to the audience, but not just any member, goldie hawn. >> we all know the stressors that our children deal with today. we live with it. every two weeks, something horrible happens. my question is, are you creating any
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programs at all inside of the efforts that you're putting forth to stabilize the stressors and to give an educational program to create tools for these children and young people to be able to sustain and create resilience through all the gifts and the help that you're giving, because, you know, we, our emotional life guides us, so how do we, and are you, attending to that? >> america? >> none of us are born with coping skills. we learn coping skills. and yes, there is so much that we are all dealing with these days. and because of technological advancements it's so much more than it's ever been. there are days when it's too much for me to deal with. so we can't imagine what it feels like for young people to be growing up in this world where yes, every couple weeks there's an atrocity on the news. and i've been fortunate enough to be part of this amazing organization since i was a freshman in college as a
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volunteer. it was called peace first. it goes into schools in the most vulnerable areas for violence. and it teaches these skills that you're not just born with. cooperation. problem solving, conflict resolution in non-violent ways. on the other side, peace first announced an initiative last year at cgi, the peace first prize and it is fashioned as a nobel peace prize for young people. and we are announcing the first winners next week. and these children -- they're not children -- they're young adults. and they are extraordinary. their stories are amazing. and does that answer the question? >> it actually adds some other questions. chelsea should have a running mate. another favorite of mine the princess. >> my question is for the future president. >> and her running mate.
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>> best of both worlds from your parents. and we have 100 million jobs that we need to create. young people who are between the ans of 15 and 29, unemployed in the arab region, the highest number ever in the region's history that need to enter the labor market. the question is, what if we end up in a world where most young arabs are unemployed? where do you see us being in that position representing the clinton foundation, cgi, and where do you see this as a future leader to america, i hope? >> wow, what a question, chelsea. you are about to step into the arab world. >> i'll speak to it. >> peggy, you go. >> yeah, please. >> i think we need to create new professions. what we're doing in kenya is within the school system, there really isn't a position for
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teaching assistants. so we get our young people between the ages 15, 29 to go and volunteer and work as teaching assistants. and it becomes evident that their service is valuable then people will again to pay for the service. so it's finding jobs in the current systems so young people can get employed. >> i think we need to have civil society, the government and the private sector working in concert together. and i think we need to invest in women. what should we expect the private sector to do that really is in their own interest? what should we expect the public sector to do at the local level, the sub national levels, and where do we need civil society to fill the gaps to help people reimagine their businesses, re-imagine their live, help set some of the expectations for little girls and little boys so that hopefully we don't have 10s of millions of unemployed arab young people in the years ahead.
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what's in coca-cola? it's one of the best held secrets. rejoin chelsea clinton talking about the economy and what it will take to get it back on track. almost everybody i've talked to, it's jobs, jobs, jobs. how do you get this situation of this younger, larger population around the world into work, particularly when their skill base perhaps isn't what it needs to be to work for someone like
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coca-cola? >> it agains wibegins with grow. you've got to find ways in today's environment to crack the calculus for growth. and when you grow, you can invest. and when you invest you can hire. so we are hiring. we are growing. we've added about 15,000 jobs avenue year to our pretty big base around the world. >> how many tons of coke do you sell around the year? >> we get invited into people's lives about 1.8 billion times a day, and that's about 3,000 products. >> how many people know the exact, final recipe, with all ingredients for coca-cola? >> there a few, and that's -- >> how many? >> and we don't always travel together. >> so cracking, you've got to keep on going. and then the other thing that i -- we, as a company, just to bring it back to reality, what
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we do, is try to connect your passion points as a company, as a business to creating jobs outside of your four walls. what do i mean by that? we are very passionate about water. we have a goal for being water nah tral by 2020. we respect water and create awareness to respect water. so we're creating. we've now launched a commitment here at cgi to place these new machines that make a thousand liters of sterile water out of any water, sue amg, arsenic contaminated -- any water. we're putting these kiosks out and manning them with women entrepreneurs. so it gets connected by the giant triangle to creating jobs. >> that's interesting. you have the same venue. >> it was one of chelsea or one
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the other panelists who said you have to have the tools, which is the internet and broadband. and then you've got to have the training. you combine those two. that's how you put youth around the world back to work. we do network academies which train young people to install equipment, et cetera. start with a small scale. today we have 1.25 million students in these academies. they are much more likely to get jobs that are higher paying or go on to higher education. >> companies like these, multinational companies, like apple who have just had the extraordinary sales. i'm a black berry guy. i'm standing firm. >> good luck with that. >> i'm the last man standing firm, but i'm standing firm. it strakes me as perverse that
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you have a crisis in america but you have apple outsourcing their work force to china or wherever it may be. is their a moral capitalism where american companies should bring more jobs back to america? >> i think both these men are stories in capitalism, whether it's coe ca coe raca-cococa-col water, though he's very secretive about the recipe, i'm certain water is one of them. he didn't even confirm water. >> would you have been a great james bond villain. >> i think that is a more
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durable, sustainable thing for coca-cola because of its clear connection to the ingredient. >> you'll find out when you become president. >> i don't know. it's you, the pope, the queen of england and him. >> enviable company for anyone. >> this is a serious issue, isn't it? >> i think for us we're such a local business everywhere. we operate across 207 countries. so that doesn't apply to us. but i think the key is what can we do in every country where we operate to ten to create employment opportunities, both inside the four walls of the company, but also outside, by the multiply effect. >> we as a country are we investing in our young people so that these men want to hire them in the future.
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in the 30,000 odd some high schools, only so many have computer science programs. >> if you watch corporate -- corporate responsibility is a must for the future of capitalism. if we don't, we're going to be on the outside looking in. we're the only large corporation in high tech that still has been around for 25 years and the majority of our employees are in america. >> and i'm sorry. >> stand down. twice. >> we'll get to you. >> you will make a good leader here, chelsea. >> she will be your commander in chief. >> oh, piers. >> go, chelsea.
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>> it's important that people realize this isn't just rhetorical. john and i were in a conversation and ceo after ceo from multiple different agencies said we have consistently seen that our employees that are the most engaged are those that we promote faster, they stay longer, they're our future leaders. so it's not just the morally right thing to do, it also is the smart thing to do. next, game night in the clinton family. do you play board games with your parents, like scrabble? and if so, who wins? reality check: a lot of 4g lte coverage maps don't really look like much at all. i see the aleutian islands. looks like a duck. it looks like... america... ish. that's a map. that's a map of the united states. check the map. verizon's 4g lte is the most reliable, and in more places than any other 4g network.
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time now for my interview with chelsea clinton and sisco. she talks about how competitive it gets when she plays board games with her parents. >> so my question is, the men and women who come out of uniform, especially the young veterans, we never built an army to fight a sustained war. we never imagined we would be in conflict for 11 years or 12 years going on 13 now. but we can't keep sending the name men and women back into
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battle over and over and over again. when they're 18, they go in, when they're 26 they go back in. we're destroying lives and families. president obama's talked a lot about it, we've done a lot about it, the department of labor's working on it. i know there's dozens and dozens of initiatives, but are we going to be able to sustain this, and are we really getting traction on getting employment for our young veterans? >> we do have a program, 6,000 that we've hired so far, the year that we're in now, more than a thousand. last year was 880. we do have a program. and it's so good for the whole organization. what we've seen is that there's so much positive that comes out of bringing in these veterans and training the veterans and putting them to work on a permanent basis, and also using programs where we employ
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veterans on a part-time basis. bring them in and employing them and then giving them the first right for the nest round of employments. >> john, if we get to your program and we want to talk about that. there's also this wider issue about this education system that may not be preparing the modern american youth well enough for the jobs that are available. how do you deal with that? and then also tell me about your program with veterans. >> the answer is our k through 12 system is broken. all of us ceos know that. the men and women who have given so much to protect this country, 18% of the young people under the 24 years of age who come back do not have jobs. that should be something unacceptable in our country. we have to mobilize government and business working together, not just to create 100,000 jobs, but a million jobs for these people, and we've got to think
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about how do you do program does prepare them for where the jobs are. i've had a chance to talk with a number of your colleague the also. the army and navy and air force does a great job of training people. but we have to train them to get jobs as they come out. the business has to have the courage to say we'll work with you. you give us six months of training, and we will employ them. but we ought to say, instead of saying how do we do 10,000 jobs or 100,000 jobs how do we get a million jobs. >> chelsea? >> thank you, piers. >> you're the boss. or you will be. >> study after study has shown that a civilian pathway as a transition for men and women in uniform helps them not only be healthier physically and mentally, but then be more long-term employable and have
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long term employment. so that seeps so clear to me that we would truly invest in americore and other service opportunities. he briefs we can create a million jobs for the men and women leaving the ranks of service. during the great depression, the civilian conservation core employed men who would otherwise not be employed. we know we can do this when we dedicate our time and energy. >> do you play board games with your parents? like scrabble? and if so, who wins? >> so we generally are a card playing family. we do play some board games. >> which card game? >> pinochle, spades. >> who wins? >> thankfully, it's a pretty equal distribution. otherwise -- >> how did i know you would say that? >> it's true.
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>> so you all win 33% of the time. >> in cards probably. in scrabble, my mother's very good in scrabble. in boggle, my dad's probably better, probably the best boggler. my mother's probably the best scrabbler. she's pretty good at boarwords. >> what are you good at? >> i do well at the traditional games, back gammon, checkers. >> i could talk about this for hours. sadly, we've run out of time. thank you very much indeed. [ applause ] next, they are the champions. the america's cup winners talk to me about their extraordinary comeback. my mantra?
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it's an honor for me to have tonight the members of oracle team usa, some of them anyway. many many congratulations on what is being hailed in america as possibly the greatest come back in the history of american sport. let me start with you, shannon. how does that make you guys feel? >> still on cloud nine. haven't touched down yet. it was a long night of celebration. and actually really good to see the cup in good shape after last night's, you know, event with all the support team and the shore and the design guys. all the guys that you don't see on the water but who are integral to the success of the defense of the cup. >> and tom, layer eye rry ellis you know what a one is? a one is motivated. when you're 8-1 down, you are
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motivated. what was the thinking in the group of that moment when you really were staring a huge defeat in the face? >> i think to me personally, when we were down 6-1, we didn't have the boat spied, and it felt like we never had a chance. but in the two races we race after that to go 8-1 down we actually showed some real glimpses of speed. even though we lost those two it was very close. as soon as we won a few in a row, the momentum kept building and they couldn't stop us. >> what does it take to win the america's cup particularly when you're coming from so far behind? >> to win the america's cup, it's a hard slog over three years for us in this campaign, and then to get at the end, to get so far behind, it made it so
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hard. and as a team we fought hard. we're all good mates and we took it on the chin and got on with it. >> i'm going to play a surprise message. before you did what you did yesterday, the 2004 boston red sox were hailed as the great comeback team in american sporting history. and we've got a message from somebody who was there that day. >> hi, this is dave roberts with the san diego padres, and i want to congratulate orcal team usa on their amazing victory. well done, guys, great come from behind victory. as a san diego padre we followed you guys, as a u.s. citizen we're so proud of you. in 2004, i was part of the boston red sox team that won a world championship, was the first in 86 years. so i know it takes a lot to
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overcome odd, and you guys overcame. so from me and the san diego padres, we want to congratulate you on a job well done. >> i don't know if you know the background, but he was the guy that ignited that great rally. he was the one who stole second base and they came from absolutely nowhere to win. what is your reaction to him bestowing the accolade that he did? >> crikey, i don't think for anyone on the team it's really dawned on us. we're he a starting to hear these comments about a great comeback and maybe one of the greatest sailing's seen, but in world sport, it's just incredible. and, you know, when you're in a middle of a fight like thatten a you're trying to get yourself out. corner, all you're concentrating on is the nest race that's coming out or the next maneuver. but it makes you proud to think that there's people out there that are watching and giving you those sorts of accolades.
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>> simeon, let me ask you the question which is emerging quite quickly at elephant in the room here. are any of you guys actually american on the squad? >> yeah, absolutely. we have rome kirby, he's the young american in our team. we have john, who is our tactician. and i think, you know, we live the american dream, never give up. keep fighting. look at the goal. and we did it. and yeah. it's, and it has been great. the american people, the fans, living here has been, has been a great experience. >> i think fantastic achievement. all of america has been buzzing today about the fact that you guys performed this miraculous comeback. i would imagine you're going to
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