>> a key part of the president's new health care law went live on tuesday. it did not go completely smoothly. this is what many people found when they tried to sign up online, an error page. our dr. sanjay gupta is traveling across the country to see how it's working for americans you'll want to hear their reaction. >> could bill gates be forced out of microsoft, the company he founded? some members of the board is calling for gates to resign. >> it is day two of the government shutdown. we're looking for a reason to believe that it could end soon. that's proving hard to find amid all the trash talk from both parties. cnn will give you the angles of the impact of the shutdown. we begin with breanianna keilar live at the white house. >> reporter: good morning to you. congressional constipation i think you said, that has a ring to it here in washington.

but we've seen this sort of cycle going on now where the house passes something, the senate dismantles it and it goes around in a cycle. we saw that for a fourth time last night. the impasse in congress is no closer to being resolved this morning. >> the motion to table is agreed to. >> reporter: but nearly 800,000 federal employees off their jobs for a second day, president obama is blaming key party republicans for shutting down the government over their objections to obama care. >> they demanded ransom for doing their job. >> reporter: he's urging congress to act. >> allow the public servants who have been sent home to return to work. >> reporter: tuesday night, house republicans tried to fund the government piecemeal, starting with veterans, national pashlgs and the city of washington, d.c. >> we're ready to talk. they have rejected that. we have to send that back every day. >> reporter: their first attempt failed.

most democrats voting no. >> this is a waste of time. it's not going any place. >> reporter: what's worse, we're about to hit the debt ceiling. treasury secretary jack lu, again, warned congress if it doesn't raise the u.s.'s ability to pay its debt, it will default october 17th. gop leaders blame democrats for refusing to sit down and negotiate. >> my goodness, they won't even sit down and have a discussion. >> reporter: president obama said his signature program isn't up for discussion. >> the affordable care act is still open for business and it is here to stay. >> reporter: frustrated taxpayers made sure their voices were heard, too. >> people are tired of a congress that can't govern this country. you guys are worthless! >> reporter: and this shutdown now, we have just learned impacting president obama's scheduled foreign trip. he was supposed to leave on saturday for a four-stop trip in asia. we've learned from the white house, chris and kate, that at least two of those stops have been canceled.

that would have been obviously to the philippines as well as to malaysia. he also was scheduled to go to indonesia and brunei. we will be waiting to see if those remain on the schedule. but as of right new, those two stops in asia do remain on the schedule. >> we have ripple effects from the president's schedule, we'll see a ripple effect from the economy if this drags out longer. brianna keilar, thank you. the fallout for the government shutdown is becoming very clear. many government service and agencies are hit hard and the shutdown that could end up costing furloughed workers about $1 billion a week in pay. rene marsh is at the world war ii memorial, one of the sites that is supposed to be closed. good morning, rene. >> reporter: high drama here at the world war ii memorial just yesterday. as lawmakers continue to play politics on capitol hill, families are dealing with the real-life consequences of this government shutdown.

day two of the government shutdown. >> furlough congress! >> reporter: outrage across the country, already reaching a fever pitch. >> we want to work! >> everyone is angry. i mean, angry. >> i came here to work today. i'm not allowed to. i'm not essential. none of us are. i'm doing the walk of shame. >> reporter: more than 800,000 federal employees likely taking that same walk or drive. >> this in my hand is a notice of furlough that all employees were given this morning. >> reporter: natasha roger is now a furloughed census bureau employee, supporting a 5-year-old daughter. >> what do you tell your daughter at this point? >> she's too young to understand what's going on. i try not to -- finances will be difficult for mom and dad. >> reporter: also in jeopardy, hundreds of patients, including children with cancer who will have to wait until after the shutdown to start clinical

trials with the national institutes of health. our nation's capitol looking more like a ghost town. >> here at the pentagon, a lot of empty hallways. defense secretary chuck hagel says he's got the authority to bring back thousands of furloughed civilian workers who support the troops doing everything from purchasing the weapons to helping them with housing. and key house republicans agree. now the question, will the white house sign off? >> reporter: a question these world war ii veterans aren't waiting to be answered. >> we're going in, brother. >> reporter: despite the government shutdown, these veterans didn't let their patriotism get shut out. ♪ moving past the barricades to their marching song, these vets, some in wheelchairs, kept their plans of visiting the world war ii memorial on tuesday. meanwhile, thousands of preschoolers are at home instead of in classrooms. >> i'm in a classroom at the

head start center in brooksville, florida, where 135 children from low-income families are provided with education, nutrition and even health care. their families got this notification today, that because of the government shutdown, this facility is going to be closed as of friday. >> reporter: doors are essentially closing at service academy stadiums, the army, navy, air force and coast guard suspending their football games this weekend if the government is still shut down. an extended shutdown could jeopardize two notre dame football games that affect the team's chances of making it to a bowl game. all right. from the stadium to the pub, the beer industry also getting a hit as a result of the shutdown. because the tax and trade bureau has had to furlough workers, they've not been able to issue new permits to breweries which

are looking to open. another issue, another example of the impact to the economy. chris and kate. >> all right. the sirens only heightening the situation. thank you very much for the reporting this morning. there's a situation we want to tell you about breaking overnight. jacksonville, international airport shut down for nearly five hours after police discovered two suspicious packages. let's bring in christine romans. >> the fbi is investigating this morning. the jacksonville airport re-opened now but for hundreds of air travelers trapped in planes on tarmacs or evacuated from the terminals, this is a night they will not forget. imagine the chaos. two suspicious packages shutting down all of jacksonville international last night. it started about 6:00 p.m. authorities discovered two packages, one was in a garage, one in the terminal. at least one of these two suspicious packages was potentially dangerous, police say. i want you to listen to what a police official said about the nature of one of those packages. >> it was a device that, you

know, certainly had some destructive nature to the degree that it needed to be taken off site to be rendered safe. >> rendered safe, neutralized some degree of a destructive nature. they don't give us more specifics than that. officials said they have no knowledge of any arrests. the florida times union reporting that witnesses saw two men being taken into custody. the airport re-opened at 11:00 p.m. there's a picture you can see someone took of a still photo of someone on the ground there with authorities over him. the evacuation does d have an impact on flight, some arriving aircraft were diverted and some passengers were taken from planes on the ground and bussed to hotels this morning, as i said, the fbi is assisting in the investigation at this point. shut down the airport from 6:00 to 11:00 last night. two suspicious packages, one had to be destroyed. >> a different situation than when we have a normal report of suspicious package. >> we'll follow it throughout

the day and find out what the fbi is saying about the investigation. >> they're tight about these investigations. it matters that they knew when they needed to. >> a lot of passengers wondering what was going on. that's what we can tell you. let's get over to michaela for the news. the pope meeting again today with eight cardinals from around the globe. they'll discuss reforms to the church and vatican bureaucracy. kicking off the meeting, the pope says he doesn't want a vatican centric church but one that reaches out to the poor, the young, the elderly and even nonbelievers. a vigil was held last night in colorado for the five people killed in a rock slide monday. all of those victims were from a single family. the lone survivor, gracie johnson remains in the hospital. it's believed the recent heavy rain in colorado may have played a role in causing that rock slide. the battle over same-sex marriage is heating up in pennsylvania. tuesday lawmakers now say they plan to introduce a bill to legalize it in the keystone

state. that announcement coming at the same time, a montgomery clerk north of philadelphia, is appealing a state court order to stop issuing licenses to gay couples. that will be heard by the pennsylvania supreme court. take a look at some video from inside tacoma, washington. the driver bumped into a pickup truck and rear ended another bus. there were cameras on both buses. thankfully no children on board either bus. neither driver was injured but the female driver did receive a ticket for negligent driving. she could also be in trouble for not wearing her seat belt properly. scientists capturing this. can you tell what that is? it's a picture of thousands of walruses packed to a beach in northwestern alaska. they've been coming ashore over the past three weeks because of sharp declines in arctic sea ice. they put the number at approximately 10,000.

one of the concerns they have, they work with villagers to keep hunters and even airplanes, even a polar bear could spook them and cause a stampede. it actually can lead to the death of the younger ones that can't get out of the way. >> that looks like pebbles on a beach. >> i thought it was first. you zoom in and realize walr walruses. >> i'm no scientist but i'm taking the over on 10,000. >> is he making a betting game out of this. >> science. >> you know what time it is, it's time for indra petersons. keeping track of the latest forecast for us. >> i know you've been happy. it has been gorgeous outside. temperatures today the same as they have been the last several days, 10, 15 degrees above normal. it will stay that way through friday. even though it's staying warm, we are going to be talking about changes. all of that thanks to not just the high pressure but notice what it behind it. we'll see a front making its way

through from the midwest to the northeast. as we go through tomorrow, look for the midwest to start to see light showers, nothing major. by friday, still seeing showers, still making its way to the mid-atlantic and northeast. we'll be monitoring that. it is hurricane season. we have something to watch. jerry is way out there in the atlantic. we're watching something in the caribbean. a 30% chance for development. this is one of the few times i'll show you what all the models are saying. this is spaghetti plot. some of them saying by the end of the weekend we could be seeing this in the gulf. i want to separate this into a couple models. here's the european model. saturday night, maybe we're talking about landfall, new orleans, biloxi. we have another one that brings in stronger here. notice the timing of this, it will bring in saturday afternoon but farther east, that could bring into a depression. something we'll be watching as we go through the weekend. i think you jinxed it yesterday.

>> things are getting close. >> i think you started it. >> yes. >> the down side of science. >> thank you, indra. coming up on "new day," not the smoothest start for the new insurance exchanges. online troubles meant many cowl not sign up or check out their options. we'll bring in dr. sanjay gupta. he's in kentucky this morning, with what you need to know. two bikers have been arrested, a third paralyzed and in a coma after taking vrevenge on a driver who collided with him on a new york street. could the driver also be facing charges here? [ male announcer ] some things are designed to draw crowds. ♪ ♪ others are designed to leave them behind. ♪ the all-new 2014 lexus is.

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there was a rocky start to the rollout of obama care, snarl, web traffic and technical glitches marred the launch of those new insurance exchanges on tuesday. question is, are these early snags or a sign of more trouble ahead? chief medical correspondent

dr. sanjay gupta is on the cnn express bus tour. he is currently in lexington, kentucky. joining us now, great to have you, sanjay. what do we know about this? >> reporter: well, they're saying they'll get some of the glitches fixed. of course we want to see for ourselves what happens today. we are in kentucky. it's an interesting state, chris. you have a democratic governor. and you have two senators, rand paul and mitch mcconnell, both republicans. they're not here, they're in washington trying to get the government restarted hopefully. you get an idea of a state divided certainly. they were dealing with some of the same things. they had about 3,000 completed applications yesterday and they suffered from some of the same glitches. take a look. the doors flung open on the new marketplace where millions of americans should be able to sign up for health insurance. within minutes, thud. the site started going down. overwhelmed they say by heavy traffic. new york state, internal service

error. washington state, same thing. the federal website is handling signups for 36 states, including pennsylvania. where 25-year-old lauren hartley tried to sign up. >> and then on the third page, it asks for security questions but the page just wasn't populated. there's some sort of technical glitch and it wasn't working. >> reporter: by midday, both the president and his critics were weighing in. >> like every new law, every new product rollout, there are going to be glitches in the signup process along the way that we will fix. i've been saying this from the start. and we're going to be speeding things up in the next few hours to handle all this demand that exceeds anything that we had expected. >> in a system that's full of glitches, that's the word most frequently being used today, glitches means it's not working. i don't think those glitches get any better over the next few

weeks. >> what's going to go on? >> reporter: in lexington, kentucky, 62-year-old howard stovell maruns a business makin signs. >> this year if we do nothing and keep the same plan, it will be about a 30% increase. >> reporter: he's got high hopes for obama care. >> we're expecting to have a lot more variety in what's available to us and what's available to our employees. >> reporter: it's 3:00. and he takes a crack to see what he can buy for his workers and for himself. >> this is the site, click on the individual's plan. so yes, i have an error. it says we can call customer service but i think we'd probably get a busy signal right now. we have been at it for a while here. i'm still very hopeful long term but we haven't gotten any real information yet. we've gotten errors and road

blocks and some confusing requests to download software. >> reporter: he wasn't alone. in fact, in south carolina, on day one, i talked to nearly 100 people. of those who told me they tried to sign up, not one succeeded. you know, so obviously this didn't go as people hoped it would. people who were getting the system up and running. again, here in kentucky about 3,000 people were able to actually register. we heard from the federal government 3 million people accessed the site but it was a much smaller amount, thousands only that were able to get through the process all around the country. keep in mind, though, this was day one and this is open enrollment that last six months. there's a lot of attention on it. it will probably taper off. you have six months to sign up. chris? >> and tech is what it is. the expertise of neither of us. let me ask you about something that's certainly within your strength. what are people saying to you, sanjay, about what their real fears are about this going forward?

what are the most common concerns? >> reporter: well, you know, there was a lot of people approaching us and wanting to have a lot of questions about this. i will tell you, the sentiment was for the most part, a lot of people hadn't focused on this issue at all until yesterday. not atypical. people start to focus on it when it becomes something bigger in the news. they wanted to know if it applied to them, if they had insurance to their employer, would their costs go up. for people who didn't have insurance, how difficult was it going to be to get on the marketplaces and obtain insurance. we found ourselves answering questions for people, because we had read the bill and put this information to this them. but there are still a lot of concerns. again, in a state like this, chris, this is a democratically governed state. these two republican senators, people are very conflicted in a place like this. >> the issue is certainly done that. there's so much unknown, it will only continue until it starts to

work itself out over time, assuming it gets fully implemented. i hope you're dealing better with the crowds gathering around the sanjay gupta magical rock tour bus and all the things they're throwing at you and people grabbing your hair. i hope it's better today. >> reporter: you can see the problems that we might have with that sort of thing, chris. >> with you there, absolutely. >> i don't want to exaggerate. >> i know you don't. let me do that. sanjay, thank you very much. >> you'll jump right in and throw me underneath that bus. >> no way, number one fan, pal. >> sanjay, you need to come back in studio so you can give it right back to him. >> the guy's got his own bus tour. >> i can't even see you right now. >> nothing but love for you, doc. thanks for being with us. >> the guy's got his own bus tour, he wins. sanjay is putting the information out there, traveling around america. tweet us with the #newday.

>> if you have questions about the shutdown or health care law, tweet us. coming up next on "new day," we heard the politicians but what do the children think about the government shutdown? chris cuomo talked to some fourth graders who say basically, don't those people in washington know how to share? is it so hard? >> we all say it's about the next generation. we hear what they say. some really great kids. also, new arrests in the disturbing incident caught on camera. the bikers, two of them in custody, the third paralyzed and in a coma. this family that's being cast as victims may they also face charges? we'll give you the latest, coming up. fit. customer's not happy, i'm not happy. sales go down, i'm not happy. merch comes back, i'm not happy. use ups. they make returns easy. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. then, repeat customer. easy returns, i'm happy. repeat customers, i'm happy. sales go up, i'm happy.

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>> announcer: you're watching "new day" with quoip, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. wednesday, october 2nd. out of the mouths of babes. we all know the expression. it can be true. they are not pleased, they see things in the situation that we need to remember. we sat down with a group of fourth graders, 9-year-olds ab asked them about the shutdown, asked them what they thought should be happening. you'll want to see what they said. >> we don't agree on, jocelyn. >> you should at least give the effort to agree with somebody instead of acting like a bunch of babies. you should act like adults, because you are and agree with people. >> listen up. that's ahead, obviously.

plus, this is ahead. she danced her way to fame, saying good-bye to her job. the resignation video went vool viral online. the company she left is giving their side of the story and they say it's actually a pretty good place to work. >> she's on to apologize for stealing your moves. >> a lot of arms. the headlines, day two of the federal government shutdown, there is no end in site. 800,000 furloughed federal workers feeling the squeeze. while both parties play the blame game. a gop plan to re-open parts of the government dismissed by the democrats. president obama calling this a republican shutdown, making it clear to the gop that obama care is, quote, here to stay. jacksonville international airport back open for business. it was evacuated because of reports of suspicious packages. details are vague but the jacksonville sheriff's office says a device was found but that

it posed no threat. the all-clear signal came late last night. the evacuation forced some flights to be diverted and passengers to be pulled off planes and taken to hotels. out of prison, a louisiana man who spent more than four decades in solitary confinement. he's terminally ill. he had been convicted of murder. he tried to point out injustices at the prison. the conviction was thrown out because of issues with his jury. some cold murder cases really heating up. this elderly couple in missouri, gerald and alice uden are under arrest. gerald is accused of killing her two children, alice accused of killing her husband in 1975. those killings happened in wyoming. investigators say they've been keeping an eye on the couple for years but just now had enough evidence to charge them. cue up some batman music. a 7-year-old from california had his dream come true.

he spent monday as a professional crime fighter in orange county. alex got help from the anaheim police department and the make a wish foundation. he is battling leukemia. alex's favorite superhero, batman side kick robin. often times batman gets all the credit. right here, it's robin that's the real hero. >> he has a good costume. >> great costume. >> that was -- that was not a made at home costume. if it was, mother did well. >> exactly. >> that was a good costume. anything, superman? >> nothing. >> okay. science! >> science! >> political gut check, the bitter standoff that led to a government shutdown may just be a warmup act, folks, for a much bigger battle in a couple of weeks when the nation comes up against the debt ceiling once again. let's get straight to cnn's chief national correspondent john king for more on this. we have to talk about the debt ceiling because that's the

scarier fight, i think, john. first, where we stand today, republicans in the house are now moving on this piecemeal approach, passing small spending bills to try to keep some of the agencies on while they continue to fight about the rest of it, i guess. it's hard to understand. the president has issued a veto. where are things going to go now do you think? >> things are nowhere at the moment. you have back and forth, back and forth. to that point, the republicans are feel something heat. the president come out and says what about people trying to help people with housing, what about veterans affairs and these other programs? republicans saying we'll fund those programs, fund the most politically sensitive programs but continue the fight over the bigger ones, like obama care. the democrats say no way, it's not going to happen. we're still in gridlock, impasse, still in no real negotiations. the president, there's talk of him calling everyone down to the white house but we haven't seen that happen just yet. the democrats simply aren't going to give the republicans

little pieces at the moment. we're still in the middle the mess. >> with that in mind, the country is facing a very real possibility of a dual crisis, the government shutdown if it stays in place, october 17th we'll be up against the debt ceiling do the politics change if that's the case, facing this dual crisis? >> we change in a number of ways. economists say that would be the big catastrophe, that the shutdown is a huge problem but a default on the debt ceiling, not raising the government's ability to borrow would be the real disaster. what do people think about that? we'll show you here. nearly six in ten americans say it would be a bad thing if the debt creeling is not raised, if congress doesn't give the president, the treasury department more authority. nearly four in ten say it would be a good thing. i want to make this point, make it quickly. a majority of republicans say it would be a good thing not to raise the debt ceiling that will give you, again, the partisan divide. kate, this is one of the questions we have now as the shutdown draks on.

who will the public hold responsible? they're holding republicans for the shutdown. the debt ceiling, not raising it, the majority says it would be the republicans' fault, not the president's fault. if you get to the point where you have a shutdown and you're running up the risk of the united states default, the economy would be in peril. even if the president was winning politically, he'd be losing if that happens. >> when you look at the first poll you put up, 56% say would be a bad thing. 38% say it would be a good thing if the debt ceiling was not raised. does that show you that the messaging has got in the way of actual fact? every professional economic analyst would say you have to raise the debt ceiling. these are bills we also racked up. >> this is more evidence, kate, of divided america. red versus blue and how the dynamic has change, especially since you have these new tea party members. the 30 or 40 in the house that were driving this debate who go home to safe republican districts and keep saying you have to stop all this spending,

the government can't spend more than it takes in. that's the valid political principle. when it comes to bills the government owes, though, that's dangerous. this tells you a lot. republicans are going home, most of them to safe republican districts. they're being told don't worry about it, you don't have to raise the debt ceiling. even here, look at this, even among independents, pretty evenly divided on whether or not raising the debt creeling is a good thing. you have bipartisan consensus among economists that it would be a disaster, a catastrophe. politically you have a divide. more people say raise the debt ceiling and fight the health care debate somewhere else. if you think of a republican going home to his district, there's enough here to understand why the republicans think they're on safe ground dragging this out. >> there's a lot of proof when you look at how the districts are drawn of that, john. i'm just going to keep harping on it, though. cutting spending is one thing, not paying your bills, two totally different conversations. >> exactly right.

>> we'll talk to you soon. >> that is the big point that you just made. that people confuse raising the debt ceiling with the government just spending more money. >> it's not -- i would argue it's not really the people's fault. it's the politician's fault for conflating two issues. >> yes, yes. there's deception going on. you can see why that's dangerous. we'll be talking about the debt ceiling soon enough. right now we give you a break. a doctor accused of pulling a gun in a case of road rage and firing. and guess what? he works at a prison. the disturbing story, coming up. and is our government smarter than a fourth grader? i know i'm not. this group of kids tell us what they think about the shutdown and they're insightful. take a listen. >> nine years old. why is this so easy for you to figure out? yes. >> because we're kids and sometimes kids, we have smarter ideas than grown-ups. i was made to work.

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welcome back to "new day." it's money time, everyone. christine romans is here and there's big news with one of the country's richest men. >> a lot of people talking about this microsoft story this morning. it looks like there might be a shareholder uprising against bill gates. reuters says 3 of the top 20 microsoft investors are lobbying the board to press gates to step down as microsoft chairman. those investors are concerned that he has too much influence at the company and he could clip the wings of any new ceo trying to turn that company around. they point to steve ballmer.

he was under pressure for years to improve the company's performance and share price. gates is on the committee to search for ballmer's predecessor. interesting boardroom intrigue there. >> absolutely. what else can you tell us about all this? >> he's a philanthropist hero which makes this interesting. basically microsoft is the second most widely held stock in mutual funds. it hasn't been doing anything in ten years. for ten years, the stock has traded sideways. big microsoft shareholders want to see that change. bill gates is the guy in 1995 who said i think everyone will have a computer in their house. people thought, whoa, what? that would never happen. he was so right. >> remind me what year that was. >> '95. >> that doesn't seem that long ago. >> i know. he literally changed the world. he has a lot of money, he's been giving it away, now, according

to reuters, shareholders saying he should step down. ready for this? a special treat for you. the government shutdown out of the mouths of babes. you keep hearing how people think congress is acting like children. we decided to test the idea and talk to actual kids and see how they would handle the situation. turns out the fourth graders at the immaculate conception school in queens, if they were in d.c., we would be better off. carl, what do you know about the shutdown? >> they're going to shut down the government because of some of the government people. >> when i say shut down the government, what does that mean? >> like the government is going to stop work for a while. >> does that sound scary? >> yes. >> now, the big things stay, the people who protect us, they stay. a lot of people who work for the government wind up not getting paid until they re-open the government. how does that sound?

>> not good. >> not that good. >> jocelyn, let me ask you something. when you were being taught how to work with somebody else in a situation, what are you taught? what are you supposed to do. >> you're supposed to share the things you do and agree and compromise when you have different agreements. >> in congress, they didn't do it. they said you want to do one thing, i want to do another. we can't agree. so let's stop the government and not pay anybody and not do lots of things that we're supposed to do. who likes that solution? double thumbs down in the back row. i forgot to mention something. the members of congress, when the government is shut down, and they send people home to their families with no pay, they still get paid. >> how? >> do they do another job?

>> they're not doing any job but they still get paid. jocelyn, two thumbs down. does that sound right? >> no. if one person gets paid and the other person doesn't, that's not fair to the people that don't get paid. >> what should i do with the money if i do get paid. let's say the law says i get paid. what should i do with my money. >> divide it into half and give it to everybody. >> you get money for being many politics? >> they pay you to go down there and have all this fun. who knew. >> can i run right now? >> how old are you? >> 9. >> if it's available, if i can swing it, would you want to run? what would you want to do, what would be your platform? why should we vote for carl? >> because i'll make the world better. >> that's strong. you're all congress members right now, okay? nicole and jocelyn while friends up until this day, now disagree. they do not like what to do. how do we solve it?

jonathan, she thinks your ideas are dumb. and in fact you're dumb, too, for having those ideas. >> we could compromise like jocelyn said and we could agree somehow. >> carl, what do you do if you're president and congress won't compromise? >> i'll tell them -- i'll tell them, get along just now because people are going to be losing their jobs. >> what's the president supposed to tell congress? nicole? >> the president is supposed to tell congress that you better get back to what you're supposed to do. >> what if they say, no? >> then the president fires them. >> he can't. only the voters can. he's not a king. who's going to fix it? nicole, how do we fix it? >> you can fix it by if the government is shut down, then -- that's a very hard one. >> right. how do we settle things that we don't agree on, jocelyn?

>> you should do the right thing, not the wrong thing. >> you should at least give the effort to agree with somebody instead of acting like a bunch of babies. you should act like adults, because you are, and agree with people. >> 9 years old. why is this so easy for you to figure out? yes? >> because we're kids and sometimes kids, we have smarter ideas than grown-ups. >> i mean, we think we have our answers, folks. >> carl for congress. >> i was wondering what you're drawing over there. >> he has a great future. he's good looking and he looks at you with a straight face. that's about all you need. >> can i do that? >> he's too honest right now. >> work on that. >> lose that over time and you'll do well. >> when i talked to the kids, they look up to public servants. this is something they aspire to do someday. they see there's a heroism involved. we forget that.

even in the media, we get caught up in the jaundice and what they're doing wrong. the kids look at what we do. we are the example. it's true every day and in every way. it was great to talk to them. they were moved. that kid jocelyn wasn't just being clever. she was upset that they're not getting along. >> why not make the effort to compromise, understand and try to agree. >> a lot of families in that school in queens are the kind of families, if the economy gets shaky, it hits them fast. >> sure it does. >> these kids could be living the pain. it was great to talk to them. >> i love that a 9-year-old is comfortable with the word compromise. that's really good. >> right? >> hope she doesn't lose that. >> carl for congress. i stand by that. >> he may be too good looking. >> #carlforcongress. >> you're unelectably attractive, carl.

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new details this morning on a highway battle royal in new york. two men arrested after the bizarre confrontation caught on tape. you remember, the swarm of motorcyclists surrounding an suv. inside, a couple and their 2-year-old daughter. it ends with one man brutally beating another in critical condition. police want to know how it started. susan candiotti has the story. it does seem that it is developing. it's not as simple as it was on video. >> one man violently attack, another might be paralyzed for life. two men under arrest. more witnesses saw it.

because of a biker ride gone terribly wrong. two motorcyclists charged by police in connection with a disturbing incident caught on tape along a manhattan highway over the weekend that ended when a motorcycle gang dragged a new york man from his vehicle and attacked him while his wife and baby looked on. police say the driver of the suv called 911 several times before and after 2:00 sunday reporting a gang of motorcyclists driving erratically. this biker, christopher cruz is under arrest for several charges, including reckless endangerment after allegedly causing an suv to hit him. it set off a violent chain of events ending in a frightening attack. 42-year-old allen edwards, the helmeted man seen on the right pounding on an suv turned himself in to police tuesday. edwards is charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. when the video cuts off, police say the driver is pulled out and assaulted. but he's not the only victim of

the dramatic ordeal that played out on new york city's west side highway. watch what happens earlier when the suv was still trying to get away from bikers. edwin was dragged underneath the suv. >> all his ribs fractured. his lungs are bruised so bad, he's still on the ventilator. >> this is a facebook page dedicated to him. he's now in critical condition. >> my husband got off his bike to help the guy. and whatever he did, he got scared, he peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way. >> the driver of the suv has not been charged but nypd commissioner ray kelly isn't ruling it out. >> it depends on whether or not the vehicle is being attacked, whether your wife and child were in the car, whether you think you're being attacked. we have to look at the brutality of the circumstances and that's what we're doing. >> still sorting things out.

a debate going on in social media, relatives of the biker in critical condition saying they want it known he's a victim, too. others weighing in, the bikers put themselves at risk and the driver of that suv was fully justified in trying to protect his family. case not over yet. >> this is clearly a case where the police should investigate before anyone comes to any conclusion. we don't know what happened there. >> absolutely. >> absolutely the case. >> we haven't seen the whole video either. >> it cuts off. of course it cuts off in a suggestive moment. the man is taken out of the car. you know he knew the kid was in the back. they go to open the back door where the kid is. i'm sure ray kelly and the new york city police department know they have to get this right. >> exactly. time for our must-see moment today. we need it after that. earlier this week we showed you a video of a woman in taiwan quitting a job from an animation company in unique style. check this out.

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they won't even sit down and have a discussion about this. >> the blame game. one thing is for sure, the shutdown effects are rule. faa safety inspectors now taken

off the job. we have the latest. breaking overnight, a u.s. airport evacuated, planes grounded, the bomb squad called in and a destructive package found. the investigation this morning. extreme road rage. look at this video. a highway confrontation that turned dangerous. imagine encountering this on your drive. your "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: what you need to know -- >> one faction of one party shut down major parts of the government all because they didn't like one law. >> announcer: what you just have to see -- ♪ this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome back to "new day." it's wednesday, humpal day, october 2nd, 7:00 in the east.

bad case of the hiccups for obama care. an important component of the new health care law got off to a glitchy start. but did a good night's sleep help? we'll take a look at that. plus, have you seen this video? close your eyes if you're scared of heights and crazy things. a man flying through a gap. we'll talk to the daredevil himself. >> i don't know how you feel about justin bieber but a lot of folks are not happy with his latest tweet. they want to know why he can't walk up the great wall of china on his own two feet? we'll try to explain all of this as best we can on "new day." >> as long as his pants are up. >> then you're okay with it. >> that's exactly right. >> keep your pants up, you're good. >> that's right. >> gotcha. day two of the government shutdown. one thing certain, members of congress, still getting paid. 800,000 federal employers, not so much. the only thing picking up steam

in the shutdown is the rhetoric, both parties engaging in an all-out public relations asalt on each other. could there be a ray of hope from within the gop itself? 31 hours now into the mix, we head to washington where brianna keilar has the latest. >> reporter: good morning. the shutdown is affecting president obama's foreign travel. he was supposed to go to asia next week for four stops. well, last night he called the leaders of the philippines as well as malaysia to let them know he would not be making those two stops. his visit to this point to indonesia and brunei where he is planning to attend summits, still on, at least right now as the showdown over the shutdown continues. the impasse in congress is no closer to being resolved this morning. >> the motion to table is agreed to. >> reporter: with nearly 800,000 federal employees off their jobs for a second day, president

obama is blaming tea party republicans for shutting down the government over their objections to obama care. >> they demand at ransom just for doing their job. >> he's urging congress to act. >> allow the public servants who have been sent home to return to work. >> reporter: tuesday night, house republicans tried to fund the government piecemeal, starting with veterans, national parks and the city of washington, d.c. >> we're ready to talk. and they have rejected that. we have to send that back every day. >> reporter: their first attempt failed. most democrats voting no. >> this is a waste of time. it's not going any place. >> reporter: what's worse, we're about to hit the debt ceiling. treasury secretary jack lu, again, warned congress if it doesn't raise the u.s.'s ability to pay its debts, it will default october 17th. gop leaders blame democrats for refusing to sit down and negotiate. >> my goodness, they won't even sit down and have a discussion. >> reporter: president obama

said his signature program isn't up for discussion. >> the affordable care act is still open for business and it is here to stay. >> reporter: frustrated taxpayers made sure their voices were heard, too. >> people are tired of a congress that can't govern this country. you guys are worthless! >> reporter: and a new cnn/orc poll out this morning showing how much work president obama has to do when it comes to talking to americans about the debt ceiling. while 56% said not voting to increase the debt ceiling would be bad, 38%, kate, said it would be good. so he'll be trying obviously to do a whole lot of education between now and october 17th. >> that is the number that everyone in congress should be worried about right now. brianna, thank you very much. while lawmakers continue their risky game of chicken with the u.s. economy this morning, hundreds of thousands of furloughed federal workers are facing a second day without pay.

they're furious and they want congress to know they're not too thrilled about being labeled nonessential. rene marsh continues their coverage live from the world war ii memorial in washington. good morning, rene. >> reporter: good morning, kate. right where i'm standing dramatic moments yesterday. it all had to do with that government shutdown. we'll show you that in just a second. but in the meantime, as those lawmakers continue to play politics on capitol hill, some families are feeling the real-life consequences of the shutdown. >> we all are essential. >> reporter: day two of the shutdown. >> furlough congress. >> reporter: outrage across the country, already reaching a fever pitch. >> we want to work! >> everyone is angry. i mean, angry. >> i came here to work today. i'm not allowed to. i'm not essential. none of us are. i'm doing the walk of shame. >> reporter: more than 800,000 federal employees likely taking that same walk or drive. >> this in my hand is a notice

of furlough that all employees were given this morning. >> reporter: natasha roger is now a furloughed census bureau employee, supporting a 5-year-old daughter. >> what do you tell your daughter at this point? >> she's too young to understand what's going on. i try not to -- i try to get her to understand that finances are going to be a little gift fdiff for mom and dad. >> reporter: also in jeopardy, hundreds of patients, including children with cancer who will have to wait until after the shutdown to start clinical trials with the national institutes of health. our nation's capitol looking more like a ghost town. >> here at the pentagon, a lot of empty hallways. defense secretary chuck hagel says he's got the authority to bring back thousands of furloughed civilian workers who support the troops doing everything from purchasing the weapons to helping them with housing. and key house republicans agree. now the question, will the white house sign off? >> reporter: a question these

world war ii veterans aren't waiting to be answered. >> we're going in, brother. >> reporter: despite the government shutdown, these veterans didn't let their patriotism get shut out. ♪ moving past the barricades to their marching song, these vets, some in wheelchairs, kept their plans of visiting the world war ii memorial on tuesday. meanwhile, thousands of preschoolers are at home instead of in classrooms. >> i'm in a classroom at the head start center in brooksville, florida, where 135 children from low-income families are provided with education, nutrition and even health care. their families got this notification today, that because of the government shutdown, this facility is going to be closed as of friday. >> reporter: doors are potentially closing at service academy stadiums, the army, navy, air force and coast guard suspending their football games this weekend if the government is still shut down.

an extended shutdown could jeopardize two notre dame football games that affect the team's chances of making it to a bowl game. all right. the faa also forced to furlough aviation security inspectors. those are the people overseeing pilots, as well as the airplanes that we fly on. they're making sure those airplanes are properly maintained. so all around, bad situation for these federal workers. >> rene, the question is how do we end it? word comes that there are a handful, a dozen about, that say they would revote for a clean vote without touching obama care. one of those representatives is michael grimm, a republican from new york. he joins us from capitol hill. congressman, thank you for being on "new day." >> thank you for having me. >> do i have it right? what are you saying you would do here in terms of helping to get the government out of the shutdown?

>> well, one, play a leadership role in putting together a bunch of pragmatic members to come up with a solution for this. at this point there's no easy solution. both sides have dug in. the democrat side won't discuss anything at all. they won't even have a discussion, republicans are now in a position where they don't want to cave in because it sets a bad press sent that the senate would be somewhat dictating how the house runs. so it is untenable. that is why i think we'll need a coalition of members to finally say, listen, the most important thing here are those people that aren't going to work today, that have bills to pay, that can barely make ends meet. those that have small children. they don't know what to help them. that's what's important, not our ego or poll numbers. we need to put our country first and take care of those that have been taking care of us. there's no such thing as a nonessential employee. i started in the governments is a gs-5 making 30 something

thousand dollars a year. you are essential to me. if anyone is not essential, it's the u.s. congress. >> strong words from a congressman. let me ask you, is there a feeling within your party that's growing that we overplayed this? we pushed it too far? the shutdown was too heavy for what we wanted to achieve politically? >> i think there's been a group of us from the beginning that said from day one we do not want a shutdown. are we frustrated? absolutely. this has been brewing for over three years. there's two parts to this. this is being lost with so much chatter. the true message hasn't been here. there's two problems, number one, within my own conference, obviously everyone knows we have a far right faction that we have to deal with and unify. that's one challenge for the republican party. but on the other side, the democrats for over three years now and harry reid have really not had active listening sessions. they haven't sat down and discussioned some of the bigger issues of budgets and so on. it's not just obama care.

as we face the debt ceiling there are major budget concerns that have been tabled by the senate over and over again. we have to sit down and have a real adult conversation about those things. it's frustration on the republican side. there's enough blame to go around here. the other thing is the president. the president needs to stop giving speeches and taking sides at all. he needs to lead and sit down and say, okay, leaders of the house, the senate, on both sides of the aisle need to come to the white house, let's sit down and have a grown-up discussion. he hasn't doen that. i'm disappointed in the lack of leadership all the way around. >> let's get back to what you can do and your party to help steer this in a different direction. do you think you'll get a chance to vote on a bill that funds the government and then you deal with obama care down the road or in some other way? do you think the speaker will put up a vote like that, because the word is that he didn't night before the shutdown. do you think you'll get the chance? >> i certainly hope so. that's our goal. my goal is to work with members like peter king and others to

put a coalition together, you know, charlie dent has been at the forefront of this as well. work with members like that. to get enough members to go to leadership and saying with listen, this is where we think we should go and this is our strategy. but all we can do is try. i'm willing to do that. there are many members that are going to make that push. there are other opportunities here. when the senate says they won't discuss anything at all. we know we're on top of the debt ceiling vote. there is a strong possibility if they were willing to sit down and listen to us, that we would put a package together and solve the problems at once, stop the government shutdown and deal with the debt ceiling. that's the type of leadership the country need and deserves and the people out of work are expecting. that's what we're going to try to do. >> well, the question that looms, though, is that if it's just this little slice of your party you say is pushing an extreme or a fringe idea, why are you listening to it so much within your party? why is what you're calling a small group allowed to dictate

the action of the entire conference? >> well, there's several things. you can't look at this in a vacuum. if we look what happened over the last couple years, several times we've tried to mac a deal with the democrat side to say, listen, we'll ignore a certain part of our conference and we're going to work with you to pass a bill in a bipartisan way. the farm bill is a perfect example. we work for months and months in a bipartisan manner to come up with a bill that both republicans and democrats would support. we knew there would be a portion of our congress that wouldn't support it. five minutes before the vote, the democrats pulled their support and made the bill go down just in an effort to play politics. that's the problem. they say all the right things on the camera but sat the end, they just want to play politics. i really believe, unfortunately they want thisdo shutdown a lite bit. politically they believe it helps them. they're not looking to come to the table for a bipartisan effort. they're looking for opportunities to score political points that's not helpful right

now. we have two problems, one on the left, one on the right. i think the american people are expecting us to find solutions to the problems that's what i'm trying to do. >> just to get a quick confirmation, i don't you see the debt ceiling differently, you know within the gop that you can't mess with the debt ceiling the way you did with the shutdown. yes? >> i think there is some -- let me be clear. there are some that would absolutely deal with it the same way. >> oh, no. >> i think there are enough of us, though, that understand we cannot fool around with the full faith and credit of the united states. that's my point. that's two weeks away. do we have to wait until the two weeks, until the dead lien, the night before to deal with it? why not deal with it right now? let's get everything done and finished so there's certainty in the markets and that the american people are wondering are we going to go from a shutdown to failing on our credit? so, again, i don't think this is a situation we should leave till the last minute. we should be leading on these issues now. if you're going to dance, you have to have a partner. the democrats will have to sit

down, harry reid will have to have a conversation at least to start this thing 0 off and look if we can avoid dealing with a debt ceiling crisis which is where we're leading right now. >> congressman grimm, thank you for joining us today. hopefully your voice is heard. >> thank you. >> kate, over to you. >> thanks so much, chris. breaking overnight, two suspicious packages forcing police to shutdown jacksonville international airport for nearly five hours. john berman has been tracking the developments for us. a strange situation. >> very strange, difficult for hundreds of air travelers who spent hours stuck on planes and on the tarmac. that's one authorities decided to shut the airport down. hundreds more had to be evacuated from the terminals and now there is word this morning of an arrest. one person in custody. a heart stopping scene, followed by chaos. >> didn't really hear too much. everybody started running. a lot of people that worked at the counters started ducking behind where the packages go and everybody started running, saying to get out.

>> reporter: hours of waiting. the jacksonville international airport was entirely shutdown last night after authorities uncovered two suspicious packages. a tweet from airport officials read, due to police activity, regarding suspicious packages, jacksonville airport has been evacuated. please check with airline for flight updates. authorities say the packages were uncovered in two separate locations. one in the airport garage, and one in the airport terminal itself. in at least one of them was potentially dangerous. >> it was a device that, you know, certainly had some destructive nature to the degree that it needed to be taken off site to be rendered safe, which is what we did. >> reporter: the florida times union reports that witnesses saw two men being taken into custody. passenger eric sullivan believes he saw one of the incidents. >> we saw them arrest the guy earlier, throw the guy down to the ground right in front of us at the garage. that kind of started a very long wait.

>> reporter: this picture from the airport shows at least one man on the ground surrounded by police officers. as for the hundreds of stranded passengers left at the paralyzed airport -- >> everybody was lined up. they said, okay, we have the buses. we're going to take you out of here 30 at a time. everybody looked around, who goes, what's the deal. >> no word if the men you saw are being detained by police. one man is now apparently in custody under arrest. the fbi has joned the investigation this morning. so far, no details about what they found inside the packages they're calling destructive or, again, no word yet on the identity of the person in custody. >> all right. we'll just keep following it. thanks so much. >> a lot of news this morning. let's get right to michaela. good morning to you at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu not buying the softer tone from iran's new president. netanyahu called hassan rouhani a wolf in sheep's clothing

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supposed to have a better day today? >> that's what they're saying, kate. the proof will be in the pudding obviously. it's not clear that things did improve by yesterday. this is an interesting state. you have a democratic governor, and then you have two very republican senators, rand paul and mitch mcconnell who are now here, they're in washington presumably trying to get the government restarted. i don't think they were immuned to some of the same problems that we saw, kate, take a look. 8:00 a.m. eastern, the doors swing open on the new marketplace where millions of americans should be able to sign up for health insurance. within minutes, thud. the site started going down. overwhelmed, they say, by heavy traffic. new york state, internal service error. washington state, same thing. the federal website is handling signups for 36 states, including pennsylvania.

that's where 25-year-old lauren hartley tried to sign up. >> and then on the third page, it asks for security questions but the page just wasn't populated. there's some sort of technical glitch and it wasn't working. >> reporter: by midday, both the president and his critics were weighing in. >> like every new law, every new product rollout, there are going to be glitches in the signup process along the way that we will fix. i've been saying this from the start. and we're going to be speeding things up in the next few hours to handle all this demand that exceeds anything that we had expected. >> in a system that's full of glitches, that's the word most frequently being used today, glitches means it's not working. i don't think those glitches get any better over the next few weeks. >> what's going to go on? >> reporter: in lexington, kentucky, 62-year-old howard stovall runs a business making signs.

>> health care costs, just like everybody's, has been going up every year. this year, if we do nothing and keep the same plan, it will be about a 30% increase. >> reporter: he's got high hopes for obama care. >> we're expecting to have a lot more variety in what's available to us and what's available to our employees. >> reporter: it's 3:00. he decides to take a crack to see what he can buy for his workers and for himself. >> this is the kentucky site. click on the individual's plan. so yes, i have an error. it says we can call customer service but i think we'd probably get a busy signal right now. we have been at it for a while here. i'm still very hopeful long term but we haven't gotten any real information yet. we've gotten errors and road blocks and some confusing requests to download software. >> reporter: he wasn't alone. in fact, in south carolina i

talked to nearly 100 people on day one and not one of them was able to get on the signup site. about 3 million people, kate, we hear around the entire country were visiting the site, some of them trying to register in kentucky which is a state-run site only about 2,900 people were able to fill out the applications. again, not what you expect. it is worth pointing out again, kate, we talked about this yesterday, you and i, day one, open enrollment for this affordable care act. we'll have many more shots at it, kate. >> and we'll see if day two goes smoother than day one. they have six months to work this out all along the way. we're talking obvious already for good reason, about many people signing up for the health care exchanges. what are the other concerns you're hearing from folks as the health care plan is rolling out? >> there's a lot of confusion still. anytime people are signing up for insurance plans it's confusing. it's confusing for you and me with our own insurance plans. many of the people are signing

up for the first time. i will point out something else. i think a state like kentucky, for example, u.p.s is based here. as a company they have decided to look at their population of workers who they insure and decided to drop about 15,000 spouses. so maybe big companies are covered, your spouse is also covered, they say about 15,000 of those spouses will no longer be covered under u.p.a.'s insurance policy. they're doing that because those spouses can get insurance elsewhere. it's a little bit of a hint what's happening i think in many big companies saying if you're a part-time worker, we're no longer offering premiums, changing plans, this sort of thing. that's the concern you're hearing as well. keep in mind again, kentucky is a state divided. part of the reason we're here. democratic governor, republican senators. they're interested to see how things play out here. they'll let you know what people are saying on the ground. >> absolutely. it's a state divided politically. it adds confusion for many folks

in that state. >> a lot of messages here. >> a lot of them mixed messages. thanks, sanjay. we'll be tracking you during your travels. sanjay will continue on the cnn express, heading to baltimore, maryland, tomorrow where he'll be live from a call center. we'll follow that. >> the man has his own bus. >> someday you will, too. >> doesn't get better than that. coming up on "new day," one driver pulls out a gun as another pulls out his camera. a case of extreme road rage. we'll tell you how this terrifying confrontation ends. and a boy whose mom says he shies away from physical contact. this persist enept and je jen thele dog won't give up on him. a touching moment, ahead. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber.

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>> announcer: you're watching "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. billy joel. welcome back to "new day." let's get to michaela for the top news right now. let's talk shutdown. 800,000 furloughed federal workers feeling the squeeze as the federal government shut down and enters its second day. both parties blaming one another. a gop plan to re-open parts of the government dismissed by democrats. president obama calling it a republican shutdown, making it clear to the gop that obama care is, quote, here to stay. an arrest in a scary incident at jacksonville's airport, the airport now back open this morning after two suspicious packages were found, one had a device that had to be deactivated. no word yet on exactly what was in the package. the fbi is now part of the investigation.

two people are under arrest for an attack on a new york city driver caught on camera. one man, allen edwards, faces charges for going after the suv's back seat. the incident started when the driver rear-ended a motorcyclist who cut in front of him. that biker, christopher cruz, is also facing charges. police are still looking for the man seen using his helmet to bash in 9 drithe driver's windo she'd been arrested for dui k and deputies stripped her, leaving her if a cell naked. she claims there was no legal reason to strip her. authorities claim she was being uncooperative. we want to show you this video that will likely melt your heart. happened about a year ago. just going viral now. this is a dog named himalaya, refused to give up on this little boy with down syndrome.

his mom said he usually shies away from physical contact. but himalaya is persistent and is present and apparently is making arnan feel more and more comfortable the more time they spend together. it's really touching. >> that is the sweetest thing. >> very sweet dog and a very patient dog. >> that's great. >> i couldn't stop watching it. >> i know. it's amazing what the dogs pick up. >> they sense things. >> so do kids. story of a very different nature, extreme road rage all caught on tape. this cell phone video taken on a kentucky highway. police say the man pointing a gun at a fellow motorist is a doctor. he was reportedly driving recklessly. when he saw the camera, that's when a witness says the gun came out. pamela brown is following the story. do we have it right so far. >> reporter: you have it right. pretty hard to believe, isn't it? many of us have heard of or even witnessed road rage incidents

firsthand when people roll down the window, yell or even give the finger. the man behind the wheel in this incident, a 51-year-old doctor is shown pulling out a gun and allegedly firing it. he will face a judge this morning. a shocking display of road rage. look closely as this driver rolls down his window, pulling out what appears to be a pistol and aiming it squarely at the motorist filming him. david kohler says he noticed 51-year-old dobbins driving recklessly, passing cars in the emergency lane on i-75 in kentucky. >> i get behind him to get his license plate number. i had my phone out so i could record it. i'm sure he saw me back there trying to videotape him and was upset about that. >> reporter: kohler continues recording when sudden did i shall. >> the window comes down, he pulls out a gun and fires, almost immediately he fires. when i saw the gun come out, i hit the brake. he missed me.

>> reporter: he immediately gets off the interstate, goes home and calls police. kentucky state police say there was no evidence dobbins hit any person or vehicle with the alleged gunshot but they do credit kohler's video in helping lead them to an arrest. >> certainly the guy driving in the left lane passing people and shooting at people on the interstate needs to be off the road. >> reporter: dobbins was arrested monday afternoon at the branchville correctional facility in indiana where he coincidentally works as a doctor. he faces a felony charge of wanton endangerment, punishable by up to five years in prison. this cell phone video filmed in june captures two businessmen in a physical altercation during rush hour traffic in southern california. and in new york, a stop between a taxi driver and a buy cycsi b

bicycleist. according to aaa, there were 300 road rage incidents last year. and the company dobbins works for says he has been fired from his job at that indiana correctional facility. dobbins will appear before a judge in a madison county, kentucky courtroom this morning. he declined to comment to cnn about whether he would be represented by an attorney. in court today he could ask for a hearing in which a trooper would have to testify in front of a grand jury that would then choose to indict dobbins or drop the case. he's certainly in hot water. >> at what level is it okay to pull out a gun while driving, no matter what. >> okay. >> thanks. >> this is one of those you have to judge for yourself. let us know what you think. tweet us, #newday. the daredevil anyone would want as their wing man. jeff corliss seriously looks

like a superhero in this stunt. we'll talk to him next. what was going through his mind? later, a guy pulling stunts of a different variety. justin bieber, for some reason he needed a lift on the great wall of china. for some reason he's getting a great deal of attention. we'll tell you why. >> did somebody lose a bet? build character through quality. and earn the right to be called a classic. the lands' end no iron dress shirt. starting at 49 dollars.

calm pink floyd music belies a crazy stunt daredevil, jeff corliss. he's done something most of us would never even dream of. he was flying wearing only a wing suit, whatever that is, through a narrow gap in a chinese mountain. he called the feat the flying dagger. jumping from a helicopter and threading a needle with only the wind and his body movements in

control of where he was going. he joins us live this morning from shanghai. can you hear us? can you see us? how are you doing? >> i can hear you. how are you doing? >> all right. the first question is, how are you doing in the head? why would you do something like this? >> because since i was a very small child i wanted to fly. i've been fortunate for the last 15 years i've been able to fly for a living. this is what i do, big stunts. this is the biggest one i've done yet. >> give us a sense of why this is so dangerous. common sense tells you this is something you avoid when you fly, a narrow pass in a mountain. what did you have to balance. >> it's a technically demanding jump. you have to think out three-dimensionally in space where you get out of the helicopter so you can get to the mountain at the right angle to be able to fly through it, come out the other end, deploy a parachute and land. the demensions of mountain are 900 feet tall, three football

fields long. at the bottom it's 15 feet wide, at the top it's about 50 feet wide and the mountain wasn't vertical, it was crooked. >> oh, my god. >> i had to sidestep the flight as i was flying through it. because the mountain was so little, i didn't get more altitude when i came out. i had to deploy at around 300 feet. my jump actually began where most other people jump in. >> and the only thing that would make this crazier if you then told us you did it with your eyes closed. >> well, with your eyed closed -- it was technically demanding and my landing area was very small. >> do you know going in how treacherous it is? it doesn't appear to me like there is any room for practice runs here. >> i actually did have three practice runs the day before. luckily the weather cooperated

with me a little bit. i did get to do practice jumps and used a new form of something called augmented reality where we were able to actually jump out of airplanes and three-dimensionally render this mountain in the sky. i was actually able to fly this flight about six to seven times skydiving flying through augmented reality before i actually -- >> i don't mean to be rude but your reality is already somewhat augmented. i have serious concern for you. >> a little bit. i see the world from a bird's-eye view. >> you got jacked up the last time you did one of these and you were seriously injured. yet you -- >> yes. >> you went back and did something more treacherous. >> most things that are worth doing is risky. when we cross the ocean for the first time it was a risky thing to do. when we went to the moon, it was a risky thing to do and important.

climbi climbing everest was a risky thing to do and important. maybe some of the most important things people do are risky and dangerous. the riskier and more dangerous it is, maybe its something we focus on a little more. >> jeffing with real quick, what's next for you after this? >> i leave on the 4th to the hunan province, a group of 16 of the greatest wing pilots coming together to essentially race together, becoming the new formula one of the sky. it will air live across the world just like my stun the does. >> you are literally the most amazing humanive ever seen. >> appreciate it. >> amazing. when you you through the crevice and we watched this stuff come out the back i didn't know what it was at first. he's okay, he made it. it was a chute.

you tested the bounds, looked danger in the face and you made it. thank goodness you're here to talk about it this way. >> and smiling. >> good luck going forward. >> thank you. >> that's a lifestyle, not a hobby. >> that is right. coming up next on "new day," you can add government shutdown to the list of ways to throw a wedding off course. how is the inaction in washington throwing a wrench in the big day for one couple? we're going to speak with them in our next hour. all right. then we want to show you something. our friend justin bieber got quite a perspective of the great wall of china. you see the pictures making waves around the world. there he is up on the shoulders. there's his voice. we'll tell you what the story is behind the image. >> what is the story? ♪ ell as they do insurance, our bank is through. good point. grab an edge. look there's two guys on the state farm borrow better banking sign. nope for real there's two dudes on the state farm borrow better banking sign. [ reporter ] breaking news from the state farm borrow better banking sign... we're seeing two men that have climbed

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these to her instagram page. note to the kardashians, go to target. the baby outgrows it quickly. "the simpsons" going dark. regular character will die this season. the only clue the actor or actress who plays that role won an emmy for it. it leaves nine possibilities, among them the fellow, homer simpson is among the possibilities, mo the bartender, because all of the people won emmys. number two, jay-z's sit down with "vanity fair." in the interview he talks how his past created the mega mogul we see today. "i know about budgets. i was a drug dealer. you need to know what you need to spend." he also said he was selfish and he was not think being how it affected the community when he was dealing drugs. today he has a different outlook. they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

bieber's unique way of seeing the great wall of china. he's atop the shoulders of his bodyguard. to be fair we don't know how the pictures came to be or if they were joking around. this set the social media world ablaze and chris cuomo you have a couple thoughts on this. >> i'm in the other camp. >> what's that? >> i could care less. i could. >> all right, maybe you don't have a couple comments. >> i get why the social media and world is abuse. >> we don't know if they were joking around but some people think it appears to be disrespectful, being carried around on the shoulders of bodyguards. yeah, could appear that way. >> i think a lot of people would feel that way. absolutely. there's a lot of people piling on him for his bad behavior. >> everything he does is under immense scrutiny. it's almost like he can't win. >> the choice of what we decide to get upset about, a lot of the

cultural things, all of the things you could care about this is where you decide? high points in my career i got to do an episode of "the simpsons" talk about influences on our culture. longest running sitcom. >> kelsey grammar won for side show bob, hank azaria the bartender. we'll see. >> stay tuned. >> i was made into a simpsons character. i will show you the pictures in my office. >> ooh, i want to see. thank you. >> lots of hair, i like it. coming up next on "new day," are we any closer to a solution that would end the shutdown? coming up we're going to ask house minority whip the number two democrat in the house, steny hoyer. and arrests made after that congrofrontation between a bike gang and the man inspect the su.

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stop governing by crisis. >> day two. could the republicans have a strategy to end the shutdown? it can't end soon enough for hundreds of sick kids who can't start clinical trials until the shutdown ends. passengers evacuated, flights canceled and breaking this hour, a new twist. a father's heroism, new details on the horrible rock slide in colorado, his father giving his own life to save his daughters. community mourning the loss of a family >> your "new day" continues right now.

>> announcer: what you need to know. >> they took hostages by shutting down the government. it's pathetic. it's not responsible. >> announcer: what you just have to see. >> i was holding it like this and it shot the nail in, and it bounced and then hit my chest and went off again. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome back to "new day." it's wednesday, october 2nd, 8:00 in the east. coming up this hour, day two of the government shutdown. 800,000 federal workers and this and their families still not getting paid. public opinion polls say the people who put them in that situation are acting like spoiled children. so we decided to ask actual children what they would do, how did they see the situation. you'll be amazed at what we can learn from these kids. an suv versus a pack of motorcycles. two men are in custody, one man now paralyzed and now the driver of the suv could be facing

charges. we have an update on that developing story ahead. the "new day" award of the day award, today goes to a tennessee fencing instructor who foiled his robbery with his foil and his pants. confused? it will all make sense when john berman joins us. >> he's charging. >> first back to the lead story. compromise seemingly a dirty word. congress still in their sandoff on the shutdown without an end in sight. and americans seem to be without hope that their government will ever work for the people again. could both sides come together at hour 32 of the shutdown? we get to brianna keilar who has the latest from the white house this morning. good morning, brianna. >> reporter: kate good morning to you. the shutdown affecting the president's travel schedule. he was supposed to take a trip to asia with four stops on it. two of those have been canceled. he called the heads of malaysia and the philippines last night to let them know that he will

not be coming. as of now his stops in indonesia as well as brunei still on the schedule, but certainly a shortened trip due to this showdown over the shutdown. the impasse in congress is no closer to being resolved this morning. >> the motion to table is agreed to. >> reporter: with nearly 800,000 federal employees off their jobs for a second day, president obama is blaming tea party republicans for shutting down the government over their objections to obama care. >> they demanded ransom just for doing their job. >> reporter: he's urging congress to act. >> allow the public servants who have been sent home to return to work. >> reporter: tuesday night house republicans tried to fund the government piecemeal starting with veterans, national parks and the city of washington, d.c. >> we're ready to talk and they have rejected that and we have to send that back every day. >> reporter: their first attempt failed. most democrats voting no. >> this is a waste of time.

it's not going anyplace. >> reporter: what's worse, we're about to hit the debt ceiling. treasury secretary jack lew warned congress if it doesn't raise the u.s.'s ability to pay its debts t will default october 17th. gop leaders blame democrats for refusing to sit down and negotiate. >> my goodness, they won't even sit down and have a discussion. >> reporter: president obama said his signature program isn't up for discussion. >> the affordable care act is still open for business and it is here to stay. >> reporter: frustrated taxpayers made sure their voices were heard, too. >> you might want to tell harry reid -- >> people are tired of a congress that can't govern this country. you guys are worthless. >> reporter: and chris, some new poll numbers out this morning, from cnn/orc showing that 56% of americans think that if the debt ceiling isn't increased, that would be bad. 51% to 43% saying it's more important to raise the debt ceiling than to delay obama

care. that is some public opinion that the white house is sort of banking on to increase pressure on these house republicans. >> all right, brianna, thank you very much. appreciate the reporting and perspective. the shutdownfallout is only just beginning. many government services and agencies have been hit hard, it could cost $1 billion of week in pay for hundreds of thousands of furloughed workers. rene marsh has more from the world war ii memorial, one of the sites supposed to be closed. >> we all are essential! >> reporter: day two of the government shutdown! >> furlough congress! >> reporter: outrage across the country already reaching a fever pitch. >> we want to work! >> everybody is angry. i mean angry. >> i came here to work today and i'm not allowed to. i'm not essential, none of us are, and i'm doing the walk of shame. >> reporter: more than 800,000 federal employees likely taking that same walk or drive.

>> this is my heand is the notie of furlough all employees were given this morning. >> reporter: natasha rozier is now a furloughed census bureau employee trying to support a 5-year-old daughter. what do you tell her? >> she's too young, at 5 years old you don't understand finances is going to be difficult for mom and dad. >> reporter: also in jeopardy, hundreds of patients, including children with cancer, who will have to wait until after the shutdown to start clinical trials with the national institutes of health. our nation's capital looking more like a ghost town. >> reporter: here at the pentagon, a lot of empty hallways. defense secretary chuck hagel says he's got the authority to bring back thousands of furloughed civilian workers who support the troops doing everything from purchasing the weapons to helping them with housing, and key house republicans agree. now the question, will the white

house sign off? >> reporter: a question these world war ii veterans aren't waiting to be answered. >> we're going in, brother. >> reporter: despite the government shutdown, these veterans didn't let their patriotism get shut out. ♪ moving past the barricades to their marching song, these vets, some in wheelchairs, kept their plans of visiting the world war ii memorial on tuesday. meanwhile, thousands of preschoolers are at home instead of in classrooms. >> i'm in a classroom at the head start center in brooksville, from are, where 135 children from low income families are provided with education, nutrition and even health care. well, their families got this notification today that because of the government shutdown, this facility is going to be closed as of friday. >> reporter: doors are potentially closing at service academy stadium, the army, navy, air force and coast guard, suspending their football games

this weekend if the government is still shut down. an extended shut down could jeopardize two notre dame football games and affect their chances of making it to a bowl game. >> thank you so much for that. are the house and the senate any closer to a solution that would end the shutdown? let's get some answers. joining me the number two top democrat in the house congressman steny hoyer of maryland. great to see you. thanks so much for coming in. >> hi, kate. good to be with you always. >> thank you very much. we know that house republicans are moving with the strategy, this piecemeal approach and as eric cantor said on cnn last night, no one disagrees with funding the va, no one disagrees with funding the district of columbia, so why is that not an acceptable solution to getting out of this? >> well of course the problem is the budget that the republicans passed dealt with funding all of the government. they've never gone to conference on the budget so we have no agreement on it, but this

piecemeal approach is going to be dragged out over a long period of time and you've just done a litany of adverse consequences as a result of shutting this government down that apparently our republican friends did not anticipate, that eric cantor as the majority leader, has the ability to put a clean cr, that simply means a bill which will fund all of government at a level that is the republican level of funding. he has the opportunity to put that on the floor, pass it, and it will go to the president and be the law, and we can open government tomorrow. so that we believe that this piecemeal dragged out item by item approach is to inefficient, so undermining of the operations of government, the growth of our economy, our national security, all of that litany you just set forth, 57,000 head start children shut out of head start, kids who can't get into cancer

treatment, women, infants and children who can't get nutritional programs that makes no sense and they're not dealing with that. >> congressman, let me ask you about the clean funding bill you're looking for. we are seeing some cracks within the republican party. chris talked to michael grimm earlier in the show, we've heard this from peter king, they're not happy how the house republicans are approaching this shutdown. have you been reaching out to them? >> i have talked to them, yes, and kate, it appears we may be getting to a place where they're going to be enough rational republicans to join with the democrats and pass what is a continuing resolution which will fund government, get us open, give us the opportunity over the next six weeks to see if we can come to an agreement for a final resolution for the balance of the year, a cooling off period, if you will, that makes sense for the american people, makes sense for the government, makes sense for the country. our republican colleagues for so

long said if it doesn't include a health care repeal or delay, we won't vote for it. well, what are they doing today? and yesterday? they offered bills which had nothing to do with health care because finally they've come to grips with the fact that the responsible action to take is to pass legislation which will fund government. but they ought not to do it in a piecemeal fashion, and get to the negotiating table and see if we can reach a final agreement. >> if it doesn't get done the country is going to be looking at a dual crisis of not only the shutdown but also the debt ceiling. would you support combining those two to try to get it all fixed in one package? >> if you're asking me would i vote for a clean continuings retlugs keep government funded and raising the debt limit that is clean, the answer to that is absolutely yes. >> combining them at this point, do you think it helps getting past all of this, pauls we're facing a catastrophe is what economic analysts say if we do

not raise the debt ceiling. do you think the house and the senate needs that kind of brutal deadline in order for anyone to start negotiating? >> kate, i can speak for the democrats. if that was, if such a bill were on the floor, democrats would vote for it, in other words when we talk about clean, we simply mean there aren't other issues of political difference put on a bill, but if you had an appropriating bill for the short term spending gap, keep government open and serving the american people and attached to that was an increase in the national debt limit ceiling. we didn't have a crisis coming october 17th and the ability of the united states of america to pay its debt, absolutely i think the democrats would vote for that in overwhelming numbers including republicans, that would be a responsible way to go, it would give confidence to the marketplace and it would

give confidence to those who deal with this overseas that america, can, in fact run its business on a reasonable basis. >> congressman, where is the president in this? we know from past fights and i was there on capitol hill covering the last debt ceiling fight chasing you down the hall. we know from the past fights that making speeches does not make a deal. sitting down at a negotiating table and trying to reach compromise makes a deal. what we're seeing now are a lot of speeches. >> there was a headline which i loved, it was yesterday, i forget which publication it was, and essentially what it said was the president can't reach out an open hand to the republican's clenched fist. republican's response has been my way or the highway. that's not a way you can negotiate. the president put on the table, frankly, a few months ago a

balanced budget deal which he really reached after discussing with a number of republican u.s. senators that adopted some of their premises, adopted some of our premises, it was never taken off the table, never considered. >> we heard from michael grimm, congressman, the president is not negotiating, that republicans need to see him sitting down in a negotiating table. >> i do know that and i know that's their position but the fact is this president has negotiated in my opinion more than any other president with whom i've served. if you look at the fact with the republican united states senators, you heard about these dinner meetings, these lunch meetings, meeting after meeting after meeting. he had meeting after meeting after meeting with mr. boehner, mr. cantor, miss pelosi, myself, senator mcconnell, senator reid, for months, frankly, trying to get to an agreement. he and mr. boehner got to an agreement and frankly, what

happened is, mr. boehner brought that back to his republicans and they said no just as they said no to the agreements, not the agreement but the plan that he himself had, speaker boehner had. so very tough to negotiate with people who won't negotiate. >> real quick, do you think you're going to be heading over to the white house to sit down with john boehner, the president and the rest of the leadership this week? >> i don't know the answer to that, kate. john boehner i think frankly is willing to negotiate. i think what he doesn't have is the support of his caucus and that's unfortunate. >> congressman steny hoyer, the number two democrat in the house of representatives, always great to have you on "new day." thank you so much. >> thanks, kate. >> of course, chris? >> all right, kate we're going to take a turn now, a story breaking overnight. hours of chaos for passengers just trying to get to their destination from jacksonville's airport. evacuations after two suspicious packages were found, tied up the airport for hours. winds up it was all a hoax.

"early start" anchor john berman is here. that's what it was? >> big developments this morning. there were some genuinely scary moments in the jacksonville airport, word came down something suspicious had been found there, but now federal law enforcement source tells cnn they x-rayed a bag, found no explosives. there is an arrest and a suspect facing charges, but it's for making a fake bomb threat. heartstopping scene followed by chaos. >> didn't really hear too much, just everybody started running, a lot of people who worked at the counters ducked behind where the packages go and everybody running saying to get out. >> hours of waiting. the jacksonville international airport was entirely shut down last night after authorities uncovered two suspicious packages. tweet from airport officials read "due to police activity regarding suspicious packages, jacksonville airport has been evacuated. please check with airline for

flight updates." authorities say the packages were uncovered in two separate locations, one in the airport garage and one in the airport terminal itself. at least one of them was potentially dangerous. >> it was a device that you know, certainly you had some destructive nature to the degree that they needed to be taken off site to be rendered safe which is what we did. >> reporter: now federal law enforcement officials are telling cnn it was all a hoax, a bag was searched and then x-rayed, but no explosive device was found and there is no next to us terrorism. that federal law enforcement official also told cnn one person will likely be charged with state charges for making a hoax bomb threat. initially local authorities thought there was another person involved but that turned out not to be the case. >> we saw them arrest a guy earlier, throw the guy down to the ground, right in front of us at the garage and that kind of started a very long wait. >> as for the hundreds of stranded passengers left at the paralyzed airport --

>> everybody was lined up and they said okay we have the buses, we're going to take you out of here 30 at a time, there was 300 of us, we looked around, who goes, what is the deal? >> people had to go through all of that for no real reason, a hoax. it appears the suspect was acting alone. and stupidly. >> talk about insult to injury, your entire travel day ruined and then this. better safe than sorry. how many more cliches can i say in one live shot. >> as tough as it was, this is a good news story. i'll take a hoax over the real thing any day. a lot of news developing at this hour. straight to michaela for the latest headlines. >> pope francis again grabbing headlines with a new provocative interview discussing change within the catholic church. in an interview with "the publican" newspaper he adds you

have to meet people and listen to them. today he continues meetings with top cardinals about the future of the church. a louisiana man out of prison, his murder conviction and sentence vacated after more than four decades in solitary confinement. herman wallace denied he was part of the angola three. wallace is terminally ill with liver cancer, his attorney says it's important him now to be with loved ones. new clues in a cold case have an elderly couple behind wars this morning. 71-year-old gerald uden and 74-year-old wife alice are facing first-degree murder charges. he's accused of killing his ex-wife and her children in 1980, alice is charged with killing her ex-husband and dumping his body in an abandoned gold mine in laramie county, wyoming, sometime in the mid '70s. a violent chain reaction crash involving two school buses in tacoma, washington,

thankfully no children aboard. the school driver was ticketed for negligent driving. officials from tacoma public schools are investigating whether she was wearing her seat belt properly. a guy as tough as nails, eugene rakow, a carpenter from minnesota. he was working on a deck for a neighbor, prepare yourself, he shot himself in the heart working with a nail gun. there's the x-ray, amazingly it missed vital veins. got the big old organ right there. he had open heart surgery, he's back home and fine. he has his wife alongside his seven kids, that is a crazy story and what's even more troubling, it's not completely rare. >> what? >> those kinds of accidents happen a little too frequently. it's really a hair trigger on those nail guns. >> it makes you grab your chest. >> it does. >> happened to a friend of

mine's dad and he miraculously recovered completely as well. upsetting. i'm going to use a hammer always. >> good idea. >> nail gun is much faster. i get it, but there are risks apparently. let's go to indra petersons keeping track of the latest forecast for us. indra, science. >> and tropical storms out there. first let's start with the good news, it is beautiful in the northeast again today, temperatures similar to yesterday by a good 10 to 15 degrees above normal thanks to the dome of high pressure that's in place bringing all that warmth in from the southeast up into the northeast. notice behind it we are looking at a system making its way through and that will change our weather pattern even though it will stay warm we'll talk about a couple showers tomorrow through the midwest and spreading into the northeast by friday or so. now let's talk about what is going on in the tropics. little bit of an upgrade, about 40% in the caribbean of a chance for development. we have jerry out in the atlantic, it's currently a tropical storm but it's this guy we're going to continue to

watch, let me show you the spaghetti models, all the different models where it thinks this guy could go. some bring it to the yucatan, some to houston and some curve into the panhandle of florida. two models, the first is the european model as we get through around saturday meaning eveningd see this make landfall as a depression. concentrating on the florida panhandle, a weak tropical storm, either way it still shows us that things can develop late in the season, something we're going to be monitoring as we go through the weekend >> quiet so far. we'll see what happens now. thanks, indra. coming up next on "new day" a brutal run-in on a busy new york city street leaving two bikers in custody, one par liesed in a coma. questions today as to what happened after an suv collided into that pack of motorcyclists and more details on the pursuit that followed. and we keep saying in congress they're acting like

kids so we went and we spoke to kids to see what they think about the shutdown, what would they do, and it is amazing what we're able to learn from these 9-year-olds. great day to listen to, too. oh, i forgot to mention something. the members of congress and the government is shut down and they send people home to their families with no pay, they still get paid. >> how? >> they don't do another job? ♪

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on it. two people under arrest facing charges for what police say was their role in a terrifying episode. man driving with his wife and 2-year-old daughter apparently chased, surrounded by a battery of bikers, a bloody confrontation followed, big question now is who's to blame. susan candiotti joins us with the story. >> there are still so many questions, how it started, how it ended. investigators trying to figure out how many people may be responsible for a biker ride that got way out of hand. two motorcyclists charged by police in connection with a disturbing incident caught on tape along a manhattan highway over the weekend. it ended when a motorcycle gang dragged a new york man from his vehicle and attacked him while his wife and baby looked on. the driver of the suv called 911 several times before and after 2:00 sunday reporting a gang of motorcyclists driving erratically. this biker, christopher cruz, is under arrest for several charges

including reckless endangerment, after allegedly causing an suv to hit him. it set off a violent chain of events, ending in a frightening attack. 42-year-old alan edwards, the helmeted hand on the right pounding on the suv turned himself in to police today. edwards is charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. when the video cuts off police say the driver is pulled out and assaulted but he's not the only victim of the dramatic ordeal that played out on new york cities's west side highway. watch what happens earlier when the suv was still trying to get away from bikers. edw edwin meises was dragged underneath the suv. >> all his ribs fractured, his lungs are so badly cruised, he's still on the ventilator. >> reporter: seen here in a facebook page dedicated to him is in critical condition. >> my husband got off his bike

to help the guy and whatever he did, he got scared, peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way. >> reporter: the driver of the suv has not been charged but nypd commissioner ray kelly isn't ruling it out. >> depends on whether or not your vehicle was being attacked, whether or not you think you're being attacked, whether or not your wife and child who is in the car. you have to look at the totality of the circumstances and that's what we're doing. >> reporter: while police are sorting things out a debate going on in social media, relatives of the biker who is in critical condition say they want it known he's a victim, too. others weighing in that the bikers themselves put themselves at risk, and that the driver of that suv was fully justified in trying to protect his family and quite frankly, who can blame him? >> that's a mess, a mess, a mess. all you can say about it. thanks so much, susan. coming up on "new day" you're about to meet an extraordinary group of fourth graders, 9 years old. what do they think about the

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>> announcer: you're watching "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan, and michaela pereira. >> welcome back to "new day." it's wednesday, october 2nd and there is a somber vigil this morning for five family members killed monday in a tragic

colorado rockslide. the only survivor a 13-year-old girl. she lost her parents, her sister and her two cousins. now we're hearing a story of her heroic father that she said saved her from those rocks. kyung lah is in colorado for us. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, kate. this began as an ordinary hike in an instant turned into a freak accident that has stunned this small town. ♪ amazing grace >> reporter: hundreds filled the high school football stadium to remember the coaches who guided them and the young friends lost. ♪ like me >> reporter: five members of the same family, all crushed under boulders the size of cars. the only survivor, 13-year-old gracy faith johnson, her leg broken, but pulled out alive by a first responder. >> he didn't see gracie at

first, but he heard somebody screaming, was able to start digging. >> reporter: gracie's miraculous survival celebrated at this high school as they mourned the lost. dwayne johnson, an electrician, coached football part-time, his wife donna waited tables at two restaurants to support her family and helped coach the track team, gracie's sister was a senior here and the johnson's two nephews were visiting from missouri. the family decided to go hiking monday morning on this popular trail recommended in guide books for children. the sheriff's department says recent heavy rain and freezing temperatures loosened the massive boulders and triggered the slide. the reason gracie is alive? her father saw the boulders coming. >> gracie told the rescue and deputy her father shielded her from the boulders and pushed her out of the way. >> doesn't surprise me one bit.

dwayne, he would have been there for you and not only you. if you'd have been close enough to him and he saw that coming, he would have done the same thing for you. >> reporter: that hiking trail is closed now. the sheriff's department is going to be asking the forest service that it remain closed permanently. chris? >> kyung, thank you for bringing us the story. we wanted to know what happened and how that girl got saved, but it's horrible for that family. all right, let's get to michael now. there's a lot of other news and we have five things that you need to know for your new day. what are they? >> the government shutdown, well past 32 hours now, a handful of republicans seem ready to compromise but piecemeal bills couldn't pass the house. the rhetoric is ramping up and 800,000 federal workers could be without pay for some time. obama care enrollment off to a bumpy start. server errors and technical glitches frustrating millions when it rolled out yesterday.

it was all a hoax, number three a federal law enforcement source telling cnn a suspicious bag found at the jacksonville airport did not hold explosives. the director of the nsa and director of national intelligence in the hot seat, they'll testify before the senate judiciary committee whether intelligence gathering has infringed on privacy and civil liberties. another day of meetings for the pope's gatherings of cardinals, discussing reform to the catholic church. the pope doesn't want a vatican-centric church. we update the five things to know so go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. they're acting like kids. are those in congress, getting along, fair play, all seemingly forgotten by the adults in the showdown mess. are they being like kids? we decided to ask some kids if they knew about the shutdown, what they would do in this

situation. you're looking at a group of fourth xwraders from the immaculate conception school in new york. >> they're going to shut down the government because some of the government people. >> web i say shut down the government, what does that mean? >> like the government is going to stop for a while. >> does that sound scary? >> yes. >> now the big things stay, but a lot of the people who work for the government end up not getting paid until they reopen the government. how does that sound? >> that sounds horrible. >> not that good. >> jocelyn, let me did you something when you were being taught how to work with somebody else in a situation, what are you taught? what are you supposed to do? you're supposed to share the things that you do and you're supposed to agree and compromise when you have different agreements. >> so in congress, they didn't do it.

they said you want to do one thing. i want to do another, we can't agree, so let's stop the government and not pay anybody and not do lots of things we're supposed to do. who looks that solution? oh, double thumbs down over there. i forgot to mention something. the members of congress when the government is shut down, and they send people home to their families with no pay, they still get paid. >> how? >> they might do another job? >> no, no, they're not doing any job, but they still get paid. jocelyn, two thumbs down. does that sound right? >> no, because if one person gets paid and the other person doesn't, that's not fair to the people that don't get paid. >> what should i do with the money if i do get paid. say the law says i get paid. what should i do with my money? >> donate it adivided into half

give it to others. >> you get money to be a politici politician. >> yes you do. >> can i run now? >> how old are you? >> 9. >> if it's available would you run? what would be your plat pformpl. why do we vote for carl? >> because i'll make the world better. >> you're all members of congress. nicole and jocelyn while friends up until this day but now they do not like what to do. she does not like your ideas, she thinks they're dumb and in fact, you're dumb, too, for having those ideas. >> we could compromise, like jocelyn said, and we could agree somehow. >> carl, what do you do if you're president and congress won't compromise? >> i would tell them, i'll tell them get along because people

are going to be losing their jobs. >> quhawhat's the president supd to tell congress? nicole? >> the president is supposed to tell congress you better cut it out and get back to what you're supposed to do. >> and what if they say, no? >> then the president fires them. >> he can't. only the voters can. he's not a king. who is going to fix it? nicole, how do we fix it in. >> hmm, could you fix it by if the government's shut down, then -- hmm -- actually that's a really hard one. >> right. how do we settle things that we don't agree on, jocelyn? >> you should do the right thing, not the wrong thing. >> you should at least give the effort to agree with somebody instead of acting like a bunch of babies. you should act like adults, because you are, and agree with people. >> 9 years old, why is this so easy for to you figure out? yes? >> because we're kids and

sometimes kids, we have smart ideas than grownups. >> i love them. >> i'm putting together i think we have nicole as the chief strategist, jocelyn the press secretary and prajeeb, she's very, very, very smart. all of the ideas have an idea of what's going on. >> they were all looking at me like i was so dumb, which is not unusual for children or adults but they were like i don't understand, we don't understand how it doesn't make sense, even to them but that's because they're playing by a different set of rules. >> it shows the pure insanity of the situation. we cover it day-to-day but when you take a step back and you listen to these pure and honest voices, the insanity of the situation, there is plenty of time to fight about things that deserve to be fought about, and there's plenty of time before the midterms, get over this. >> send the tape to d.c. do it. >> wait until you hear what they said about the debt ceiling. i'm saving that.

>> debt what? >> saving that. they knew. they're like the quantitative ease something a real problem. the kitty cabinet we brought them to you. tweet us with #newday and let us know what you think. coming up next on "new day," more than 100 guests gathering to celebrate a wedding that could be derailed by, of course, the government shutdown. we're going to talk to a couple whose special day is up in the air as they await an end to that shutdown. plus a couple of would-be robbers foiled by a foil. it's worthy of john berman's "new day" award of the day award award. i was made to work.

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what a perfect song for this. welcome back to "new day." imagine the wedding of your dreams, completely ruined because of congress. it's exactly what happened to one young couple their wedding was set to take place this

weekend at the jefferson memorial, the site of their first date back in 2009. thanks to the shutdown the memorial is off limits and they have to scramble to make new plans. mike and mailin join us from washington. there is the beautiful couple, you look so stress-free. i imagine you would both be having bridezilla and groomzilla moments. >> it's kind of early to be stressed and tired. >> monday morning i got an e-mail from the national park service essentially saying that if the government were to shut down any permitted activity on the national mall or any of the grounds were going to become invalidated and we would not be permitted to hold our event. >> is there a fix, anybody that you can negotiate with to make

it happen? >> i mean, you know, if harry reid and john boehner want to take a meeting with us. >> we'll mention it the next time we talk to them. >> i was thinking more along the line of a few president jacksons. >> if only it were that easy. >> my first idea was to jump the fence and do it anyway but mailien can't jump a fence in a wedding dress and i don't want to be arrested on my wedding day. >> rain on a wedding day say good omen so maybe having a government shutdown. what is the alternative plan? >> the reception venue is a local hotel in sonoma and they have graciously offered to help set up the restaurant so that we can have our ceremony there. they have this wonderful upstairs area we're holding our reception in, so they're just going to have the ceremony there for us and then sort of quickly flip it into a reception. >> you two seem pretty calm. mike i understand that you said mailien has been a fairly calm

bride in the planning stages of this whole wedding. has she been calm since monday after receiving this news? be honest. >> i mean has she been agitated and a little bit angry about the situation, yes. but has she been calm and you know, task oriented in getting this fixed, absolutely. >> good for her. >> good answer. >> you've learned already. >> i've trained him well. >> unusually diplomatic for an italian husband. let's talk about meaning here, because marriage is all about meaning. we have the meaning of why this is happening. we all think that the shutdown is just a word, and we're just playing with numbers in the media, nobody's really affected. what has this opened your eyes to in terms of the significance of what's going on in d.c. right now? >> well, you know, i think that we both have talked about this a lot and we both thought about a lot of our friends are getting furloughed. there's a lot of -- people often think of the name lists,

washington bureaucrat who is getting furloughed and nobody really thinks about the average person who gets affected by a government shutdown. >> and that's no not to say that, there are so many people who are feeling more pain than us, aren't getting their paychecks, seeing some type of service disrupted and our disruption is on a scale of one to ten like a one on that scale, but you know, there are so many unintended and unforeseen consequences of something like a government shutdown, we just wanted to get the word out that, hey, something as crazy as a wedding can be interrupted to people not being able to compromise and come to a decision how to fund a government. >> we're glad you did and it's interesting that you chose the jefferson memorial because it was the site of your first date, a true d.c. couple trying to have a d.c. wedding. you'll still have a d.c. wedding but in a different way. we understand there was something like several dozen more people that were trying to get married just in this month alone so you are not alone, if that provides any comfort to the

two of you. >> yeah, i think there was about 40 couples getting married on the national mall in october who are now not going to be able to. >> we know the two of you will make the best of a bad situation. sounds like the family and friends are already flying into town. thanks for sharing your story with us here on "new day," mike and mailien, we wish you many years of happiness together. >> call your congressman and senator and tell them to fund the government. >> there was your message, i was waiting for it. thanks you guys. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. coming up next on "new day," foiled by a sword, how a fencing instructor stopped a robber. it's our award of the day coming up with berman. >> i love this guy. twins. i didn't see them coming.

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♪ every girl's kratzy about a sharp dressed man ♪ that time of the morning john berman here to give us his "new day" award of the day award. >> the pen might be mightier than the sword but the sword is mightier than a couple of jerks. franco scaramuzza is a fence teaching in nashville. he crossed two men trying to rob a purse in a parking lot. it was a good thing he had his sword or his epe with him. >> i charged towards them holding my epi up high yelling at them, i yelled through the entire thing. they completely panicked, dropped everything they stole and really took off. >> we think that dramatic video

was a re-enactment from our affiliate. we do not have the actual video but in my head the scene went down something like this from "star trek." >> what kind do you have? >> thanks. >> taking down the two robbers in the parking lot, after this battle happened ntd parking lot on top of that spaceship the two robbers were apprehended by police so the fencing team franco is scaramuzza gets the i must have been the pants award. it's not just the epe. >> what are they called in fencing world? >> slacks, a nice pair of slacks. no, i have no idea. flat front slacks and they were scary. >> good for you. good on you. >> scaramuzza, a tie in. >> to science. >> we'll be back after this.

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