vestment. these were at one time children who grew up on our baseball fields, went to our grade schools and then left our community to serve us. eventually they come back. it's a full circle of service. good evening, everyone. millions sought pictures, a city felt the terror, a woman lost her life and a little girl lost her mother. now in the aftermath of the washington, d.c. chase and shooting we're learning who the woman at the wheel actually was. only on this program tonight, miriam kerry's sisters talk about the woman they knew and the mental illness she was fighting. dr. drew pinsky joins us as well. from blizzards to a massive tropical storm to a damaging tornado, what you need to know about some ugly weather coming our way or already here. and later, the man in that picture just one guy standing between a badly beaten driver of an suv and a pack of angry bikers who were attacking him. just one guy who made a difference. he joins us tonight only on 360

and the story will inspire you. that and new reporting of an undercover police officer was part of the ride that day, allegedly saw the attack and did nothing to intervene. we have new reporting on that. we begin, though, with the latest on the woman in the car in washington. her story before authorities fired the fatal shot, before she rammed a white house barrier then raced with her baby daughter in the car to capitol hill where the chase and her life came to an end. before all that, something motivated miriam kerry to do what she did. tonight we're learning she had been grappling with mental illness. in a moment i'll ask her sisters about this. first i want to bring in deborah feyerick. you're learning more about miriam kerry's possible motivation to go to washington. >> reporter: this is a 300-mile trip she took from stamford, connecticut to washington, d.c. she drove down there on thursday. now, according to her boyfriend, back in december he called police. he said that she was suffering from postpartum depression, she was delusional.

one of the things he told police according to one of our sources is that he told police that she believed that president obama was monitoring her home through electronics surveillance, also that somehow he had put her city of stamford on lockdown. so all of this behavior that actually wound up getting her into a mental evaluation back in december. and papers were found relating to that evaluation, anderson. >> and i talked to her sisters about that. they actually dispute some of what the boyfriend has reportedly said. you've also been talking to your sources about medications that she might have been on. what have you heard? >> reporter: this was one of the interesting things is that authorities went into the apartment and did an entire search. what they found is they found a discharge papers from the mental health evaluation that she underwent back in december. that's about ten months ago. and in those papers there were prescriptions for medications to treat both symptoms for bipolar disorder, but also schizophrenia and an antidepressant.

so there was a lot going on. it's unclear. initially we've been told there was some medication but there were prescriptions at the very least. and i think when you spoke to the family they acknowledged that indeed she was on medications. >> right. they said she had been on medication. but that she had been tapering off that medication under doctor's supervision and the recommendation of a doctor. that is what miriam told her sister amy. you're going to hear from amy in just a moment. it's interesting because amy categorically says and so does the other sister that her sister, miriam, was not schizophrenic, did not have bipolar disorder, instead had postpartum depression and psychosis. what do you know about this envelope? you were reporting on this last night that she apparently left behind i guess for your boyfriend? >> reporter: she did. there was an envelope that was taped to the ground by the door. and on the envelope was written his name. initially authorities believed there was a letter inside but it wasn't a letter at all. it was a sugary substance. it almost seemed to be mixed with a kind of corn substance.

it was very bizarre. that's what sort of stalled the speed of the investigation, because they had to send a hazmat team into the apartment to make sure there was nothing that could contaminate or make anyone ill inside that apartment. there was that envelope addressed to him with the substance. they don't know why. >> deborah feyerick, appreciate the reporting. this goes without saying a horrible moment for miriam kerry's two sisters, amy kerry jones and valerie kerry. they spent part of the day today with authorities identifying their sister's body. it's hard to imagine what that has been like and what the coming days and weeks are going to be like for this family. takes a lot to endure that and still more to talk about it. but they want people to know about the sister and new mother that they loved. i talked to them earlier. >> valerie and amy, i can't imagine how tough this is and what you're going through. i'm so sorry for your loss. amy, what do you want people to know? >> i want people to just understand that miriam, she was

a young, 34-year-old, vibrant woman. and she had a lot of dreams and aspirations. she was fun. she was loving. she was very nurturing to her daughter. she was a new mom. and she was excited about that. she always talk about teaching. her field was dental hygienist. she wanted to go further and give back in the field. help was everything she lived for. she just was a wonderful person. people need to see that she was more than the suspect that was driving the car. >> does any of this make sense to you, amy? >> no. we're still trying to put the pieces together. it's very sudden. it still doesn't seem real. and we're just waiting for the real story as to exactly what happened to come out. the investigation is still on forth. and we're very interested to know what happened. we don't know what happened. >> amy, did you know that she

was in d.c.? >> i didn't know she was in d.c. i was on my way to work and the call was very sudden. i was told, and i think i found out just the same as everyone else on the news. >> so what was your initial reaction? obviously the horror of it all. but what went through your mind? >> that that could not have been my sister. i immediately went to turn on a television to see what was being reported. and i just saw the same clip over and over, the car. i did recognize her car. and it just didn't seem real. i'm still in shock. i'm still trying to deal with this. it's very emotional for me. >> it probably still doesn't seem real. >> no. i don't know when it ever will seem real. >> valerie, do you have any idea why she may have driven down to d.c.? i mean, there are all sorts of reports that she had been having

emotional problems, that authorities according to some authorities that there were some drugs for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and for depression found in her house. does this make any sense to you? >> what i can say and will say is that my sister was not a bipolar schizophrenic individual. and i can't say as to why she was in d.c. but regardless of the reason that she was there, her life shouldn't have ended there. >> do you have questions about the reaction by law enforcement? >> well, that's something that has to be looked into further. this is the reason why the family is here. we're here for answers in d.c. >> amy, some people -- there are sources saying the last year police have been called by your sister's boyfriend who reported that she was acting irrationally or delusionally. is that something you knew about? is that something you were concerned about? >> i'm not going it feed into things that he reported to the

press. i just know that my sister did experience postpartum depression with psychosis, they labelled it, which came along with treatment of medication and counselling which she did. and she had her challenges with that. and that's what she was being treated for. >> so as far as you know, she wasn't bipolar, wasn't schizophrenic. you believe it was postpartum depression. >> postpartum depression with psychosis. that's what her diagnosis was. she worked very closely with her doctor to taper off the medication and just get the counselling that she needed so she can deal with that diagnosis. >> how was that manifested in her life? was that something you saw in her life? >> no. it wasn't something that was displayed. it was a momentarily breakdown where she had to go and have emergency care once she understood what the diagnosis was she knew how to move forward. she had her challenges as a new parent.

and i always spoke closely with her. i am a parent. i have two children. so she's just like anyone else. she had questions. we dealt with that as a family. but there was nothing out of the ordinary. >> did she seem in recent days to be off medication or to be unstable? >> no. she didn't appear to be unstable. >> again, the reports that she told her boyfriend that she believed president obama was in some way electronically monitoring her home. dud she ever talk to you about that? >> what i can say is she has never disclosed anything of that nature. and since my sister is not here to speak for herself, that statement in itself is very questionable. >> and the last time you talked with her, the last couple of times you talked with her, did you notice anything out of the ordinary? >> no. she was concerned about me. >> just as any sister would be. >> absolutely.

>> amy, when was the last time you talked to your sister? >> our last conversation more through text message. my last time conversing with her was on monday. and before that it was a few days before that. we spoke often. she lived in connecticut. i lived in brooklyn. so she frequently came down to brooklyn so that our mother could babysit her daughter to accommodate her schedule. so she did stop by often. >> and when you talked to her on monday, how did she seem to you? >> normal, regular. it was just business as usual. >> do you think you will ever get the answers you're looking for about what happened in your sister's mind, in her life? >> we will never know what miriam was thinking in those last hours before she -- before she died. we can only speculate.

and our real concern is why and were things done properly. like was there some other way that she could have been helped so that it didn't end tragically. >> we've got to take a quick break. amy and valerie say miriam had recently tapered off the medication she had been taking under doctor's supervision. in a moment they're going to elaborate on that and talk to dr. drew pinsky for his perspective. let us know what you think. you can follow me on twitter ath andersoncooper. ahead who is playing games with the government shutdown while millions pay the price? we'll tell you. keeping them honest ahead.

before the break you heard amy carey jones and valerie carey talk about their sister, miriam carey. they acknowledged she'd been dealing with serious mental illness. we talk about that and the treatment she was receiving in part two of our exclusive 360 interview. >> the care she got when she had the psychosis and the depression, how long ago was

that? do you know? >> the diagnosis came a little bit after her birth of her daughter. maybe a few month after. >> her daughter's about a year old, is that correct? >> her daughter's a year. she's one year old. i did recently ask her about the medication. i talked to her often about that. and she told me that the doctors told her that she didn't need the medication anymore because the plan was for her to come off of the medication within a year. and they were confident that she was better. they tapered her off her medication and she said she felt fine. >> do you know for a fact that that was something that the doctors had recommended she get off the medication? or is that something that she told you? >> no. that's what the plan was. the plan of care for a patient that has depression with psychosis is medication and treatment. and not to have long-term medication bike a by popular or schizophrenic. she didn't have any prior

history of any type of psych history. so that is why they told her one year. and they did go with the plan. >> as you said, i can't imagine the horror of seeing this on television and witnessing this as other people did. do you, amy, have questions about those final minutes and how police responded? i mean, you said you want to find out what happened. what aspect in particular do you want to look into? >> we have a lot of questions as i'm sure as a lot of viewers when you read the information, you see what the media is reporting. it just doesn't add up. and personally i feel that as professionals there has to be another way instead of shooting and killing an individual. i do feel that there could have been something else that could have been done. so our goal is to figure out what happened. >> what kind of mom was she? >> she was a great mom.

she's very nurturing to her daughter. she made sure that she got the care that she needed. she spent time with her. she's very happy to be a mother. >> do you know how your niece is doing now? do you know what's going to happen with her? >> we don't. we're still trying to find out. we're not sure. we just were told that she's safe. >> valerie, is there anything else you want people to know about your sister? >> my sister just totally didn't deserve this. and there are going to be a lot of different stories being told from people who may claim that they know her who don't know her. my sister was a loving mother. she was a law-abiding citizen. she had no political agenda. and she did not deserve to have her life cut down at the age of 34. >> do you know if when she had episodes in the past what they centered around or what she

would talk about in those cases? >> she seemed to be overwhelmed, a lot of stress. she had a lot of events occurring in her life. and she was diagnosed with the depression and with the psychosis. we found out about it. she dealt with that. and there was not moments of her walking around with delusions. that's not what was going on. >> amy and valerie, again i'm so sorry for your loss. and please give my condolences to your mother as well. and i wish you peace and strength in the days ahead. before going any further, bears repeating no one can know precisely what motivated miriam carey. that said there's a lot we can know about the illness she had. plenty to ask dr. drew pinsky about addiction specialist and host of "dr. drew on call." the diagnose is. >> postpartum depression is a very common condition. different than the baby blues. it's very common after a woman's body is flooded with hormones, suddenly let down.

they can feel depressed. sometimes it can become a major depression that bleeds into a psychotic episode where they have delusions. that's different than a postpartum psychosis, more associated with bipolar. >> so postpartum psychosis is different than postpartum depression with psychosis. >> correct. the last woman i saw was throwing water on people because she believed they were on fire. >> so listening to the sisters, you say they're very informed about what was going on. >> miriam's sisters seem extremely well informed about this condition and get exactly what she was dealing with. has nothing to do with the psychology of the individual. although sometimes there's a lot of stress in those people's lives. not a psychological thing or biology thing. it's something that throws them completely off by the pregnancy. >> when amy said her sister got medication that her sister was tapering off and had tapered off on her doctor's supervision over the course of the year. >> that makes sense.

postpartum depression is usually in that first year window and they can come off these medications. while many making a loft fact she was on medication used for bipolar and schizophrenia. >> when reporters say they found those medications the sisters are saying she wasn't schizophrenic or bipolar. >> if i had been treating this woman the one thing i concerned about a that i tapered her off too fast or inappropriately early or that my antidepressants had triggered a bipolar mania. it became a little weird she became so psychotic a year after this pregnancy. it's a little funny. >> it does seem clear to you based on what we know, that she likely had another psychotic episode. >> it's clear. all this focus on the government. very common people with these psychotic symptoms to be foesed on authority figures, people in the media speaking directly to them, controlling their thoughts or beaming thoughts into their head. they have to take action, too. that makes sense to them in the moment. >> amy had contact with her sister via text message on monday.

said nothing seemed unusual. >> hard to tell over the text. again my experience with postpartum psychosis, they often feel bewildered. they don't tell people what they're thinking. they're not connecting to reality normally and they can shut off to people. >> someone who's having a psychotic episode can function. they can get from point a to point b, theoretically she could have driven from new york to d.c. >> absolutely. >> even though having these psychotic thoughts. >> no problem. but it's certainly not the way to manage mental health. how often do we have to sit here and report these stories about mental health inappropriately dealt wilt and inappropriately outcome. >> so much the stigma on mental health issues, the silence that surrounds this. it's unfortunate we always end up talking about it in the wake of something tragic. >> my concern is they're going to point at these people. this is a lovely woman -- why should we treat conditions above the neck than below the neck? the brain was misfiring on that

day. there are treatments for it. the treatments are good. but we have to make sure people follow through on them and make sure insurance companies allow doctors to use their judgment to do what they need to do. >> properly medicated she could have lived an absolutely upstanding life. >> and never have any more trouble with any of this potentially. very sad. >> very sad. dr. drew, appreciate your expertise. thank you very much. good to have a doctor in the house. for more on this story go to cnn.com. head another 360 exclusive. this story will make you feel good about the power of an individual making a difference. the man who faced down some of those angry bikers armed with nothing but quiet courage. he didn't have a weapon him. he stood between the bikers and the suv driver unconscious on the ground. also tonight, a shutdown. accusations of game playing but also just possibly hints of the end game. we'll be right back.

welcome back. late word tonight the pentagon may be close to announcing a plan to bring up to 400,000 furloughed civilian employees back to work. that's according to d.o.d. officials. the announcement could come tomorrow. big progress if true after another day of deadlock. president obama on a lunch break with vice president biden restating his refusal to negotiate on it or the debt ceiling. house speaker boehner meantime lark out at published comments from an unnamed white house official. listen. >> this morning, i get the "wall street journal" out. and it says, we don't care how long this lasts. because we're winning. this isn't some damn game! the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. >> well, neither do the 5,000 defense contractors who could be out of work on monday if the

shutdown continues north 800,000 federal workers who have already been furloughed north kids and parents who won't have access to head start programs. that said keeping them honest there is a lot of game playing going on and both sides talk about winning all the time. here's kentucky senators mitch mcconnell and rand paul in that open mike moment wednesday night. >> i think if we keep saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for that, now we're willing to compromise on this. i think we're going to -- i think -- i know we don't want to be here but we're going to win this i think. >> there it is. the win word. as for game playing just exactly what would you call griping about memorials being closed when you voted to close them? >> how do you look at families? how do you deny them access? i don't get that. >> it's difficult. >> it should be difficult. >> it is difficult. i'm sorry, sir. >> parks service should be ashamed of themselves. >> i'm not ashamed. >> you should be. >> it doesn't cost any money. >> this woman is doing her job

just like me. i'm a 30-year federal veteran. i'm out of work. >> the reason you are is mr. reid. >> no. it's because the government won't do its job and pass a budget. >> that's congressman nugebaur chewing out a park employee telling that person they ought to be ashamed. when we saw that we of course wanted to know more. for the past two days we've invited that congressman from texas to come on the program and explain why he's lashing out at some low-paid park worker when he's still earning a paycheck. they're all still making their money. they got health insurance. we got nowhere on that, by the way. doesn't seem to want to talk. near has a cnn producer who caught up to him today. watch. >> can you talk to us, please? this is your chance to explain your interaction with the ranger. >> funny how they love being on camera when ey're chewing out a park employee, but when you actually surprise them with a camera and ask them to explain their activities, he's doing the old i'm talking on the phone thing.

i just can't stop and talk. no luck there. our invitation of course to congressman stands. we'll be here all next week. we're not shut down. welcome you on the program anytime. i'll come in early happy to talk to you. again publicly no end to the standoff in sight. the question is, what about behind the scenes? chief congressional correspondent dana bash joins us with the latest. >> so dana, are any negotiations going on anywhere? is there any movement at all? >> reporter: no. that is the short and honest answer. there's nothing going on. the only discussions that are going on are within each party's leadership walls trying to figure out what their next move is. mostly rhetorically, but in some cases especially looking ahead to the debt ceiling inside republican house speaker john boehner's office trying to figure out how they're going to craft something that maybe could make democrats move off their no negotiation pledge. >> it is deathly quiet behind you, i got to say. does it look like all of this will end up getting wrapped up together with the fight over the debt ceiling?

>> >> reporter: it does look that way. what i'm told is that the house speaker has been having those conversations they mentioned with some of his closest con fe fidants. they've moved off obama care. but on the economy, specifically, something about the debt they can take home to their constituents. republicans, even not just the tea party right but even moderates tell me they feel they need to take something home to say that we addressed the problem with the debt in this country and in exchange for that i did agree to raise the debt ceiling. the speaker is making very clear and private and in public he's not going to do anything that is clean on the debt ceiling. he's not going to do a -- pass anything that doesn't extract something with regard to the debt from the president and from democrats. >> but also today the federal government announced a critical part of the obama care web portal is going to be taken down

for a portion of the weekend to try to fix the glitches that were plaguing it. it is pretty stunning that the signature piece that was on the agenda for the obama administration has been plagued by so many problems with their web site. i mean, first of all, this administration when they were running for office, they had a much vaunted online effort. the fact they couldn't get it together for this signature piece of legislation, what's the reaction on capitol hill been? >> reporter: oh, as you can imagine, it was sort of an nanosecond before republicans jumped on this. the house speaker, his office put out a statement saying it's an unmitigated disaster, saying it's system-wide failure much more than glitches and asking how can the administration require people to pay taxes, meaning penalties, for not purchasing something on a web site that doesn't work. again, obviously making the point this should be delayed until the kinks can get worked out. they feel vindicated in the republican party.

the fact they're taking this entire system down gives them material. >> yeah. the flip side of course is people do have months and months in order to actually sign up. it's not like they're being taxed next week or anything. but still, it is -- i mean, i don't know. i assume somebody's getting yelled at from who set this whole thing up. dana, appreciate it. thanks. digging deeper i want to bring in chief political correspondent candy crowley and senior political analyst david gergen. we saw speaker john boehner slamming the "wall street journal" this administration official talking about winning. rand paul and mitch mcconnell saying they think they're going to win this. is this game playing? is that what's going on here? >> reporter: well, it's messaging. i mean, call it what you want. the amount of work being done in washington to get something

settled is inversely proportionate to the number of news conferences and time people appear on camera. so we have had nothing but that this week. which means as dana told you, nothing's happening behind the scenes. this is about jockeying for position. while they try sort of internally to figure out both in the democratic and republican side, what it is they will or won't do. publicly they have been stuck on the same position for a couple of weeks at this point. and i think it's pretty clear it will kind of -- this whole conversation is going to flow into the debt ceiling. and i don't think they'll have some big old package that comes as a compromise and a super deal. because they've tried that before and it hasn't happened. but again, i think dana's perfectly right that at some point, republicans feel the need if you're going to raise that debt ceiling which is already at about $17 trillion, republicans feel they need to have some cuts, something to take home

with them. >> david, how do you see it? are you surprised really at the lack of negotiations, the lack of movement? >> reporter: i am. the news is that americans are starting to demand negotiations on both sides. a new poll out tonight has 60% of democrats saying obama ought to compromise and 60% of republicans saying the house republicans ought to compromise. that's the good news. the bad news is in washington. they are game playing. childish game of pin the tail on the donkey. who's going to wind up with the most point. everybody in washington gets hurt, who gets hurt the worst. >> candy, david talking about compromise. what does a compromise look like exactly? >> reporter: i don't know. because i don't think they know. it's really hard as a reporter to figure this out. because the principals are still trying to figure this out. and in the meantime, sticking with their positions. and the president has said for i

don't know how long. i'm not going to negotiate on a debt ceiling. this is money we've already spent. you have an obligation to do this. i'm not going to do this. on the other hand, i think it's going to be difficult as david points out with public pressure but also the administration's response to the debt ceiling has been to say, here are the following 13 things that will happen that are horrific if we do not raise the debt ceiling. and it is difficult -- it's going to be difficult i think going down the line to argue the horrific things are going to happen if the debt ceiling is raised, but we refuse to negotiate. so i think the pressure is going to be on all of them. and everybody sticks to their positions until they don't anymore. >> david, do you see where per perameters on negotiation would be? >> reporter: i think we're not going to get that until next week. public pressure, public anger will continue to rise and financial markets will get rattled here pretty soon. that's going to put real pressure on. look, i think if the republicans

would promise president obama we will not -- we will give you a clean debt resolution, we will not try to dismantle health care in exchange we want a short opening of government, a short continuing resolution for say four weeks, and then enter serious negotiations about entitlements and about tax reform, i think that has some promise to it. i do think there's going to be some sort of negotiation before this is over but it's got to be done in the context of the president not breaking his vow he would not negotiate over the debt ceiling. but have a four-week period or six-week period -- before a shutdown again. >> david gergen, candy crowley. up next, an off duty new york city police officer was present during the confrontation with the bikers and the suv driver. also the good samaritan risked harm to himself stepping in to stop angry bikers from attacking the suv's driver even more.

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welcome back. sock breaking news. we just learned new information about that motorcycle mayhem here in new york. an undercover new york city police officer was one of bikers on the ride. he allegedly witnessed the confrontation. a biker smashing in the driver's side window of an suv caught by

another biker's helmet cam. the officer was off-duty at the time, a member of a bikers club. a source telling our reporter he did not intervene to stop the confrontation and did not tell his superiors he was there until wednesday. unclear if he violated police department policy by waiting so long to report it. internal affairs is investigating. meanwhile police are questioning this man seen opening the door of the suv before he then takes off on the highway, running over someone. they say he is not under arrest. and police tell us they've now identified the biker who used his helmet to smash the window of the range rover and are preparing to arrest him. they also say that after the window was shattered the driver was pulled out of the suv, thrown to the ground, beaten and slashed in the face. that part of the attack was not caught on video. but as that violence was unfolding, a neighborhood man who was walking by saw it, knew he had to do something. so he stepped into the street to protect the driver until police arrived. he joins us exclusively tonight. sergio, i understand you were on your way to church when you saw

what was going down. what did you actually see at first? >> i saw a friend of mine. as we approached the corner, right there i saw the usv -- >> the suv? >> the suv i'm sorry, approaching. and i saw the tide of -- >> one of the tires was actually -- >> yeah, gone. >> gone. >> very gone, yes. and i explained to him, listen, maybe this family, they're looking for a place to fix the tire. and suddenly there was motorcycles coming from all over the place and stopping -- the motorcycle throwing into an uproar and rushing in to break the windows of the suv. >> did you actually see -- in the video we see one

motorcyclist take his helmet off and use it to break over the driver's side window. did you actually see that? >> yes. when he stopped, he took his helmet off and started hitting the window of the passenger car. also there was another guy hitting the other window. and there was another one hitting the back of the suv. i didn't know what was going on. and when i started seeing this, then i saw another one approaching the other door, he opened the door -- i mean he started breaking the glass. he finally opened the door. and he grabbed the lady. in front of the suv. and he grabbed her by her arms. he was pulling her out of the car. >> so there was a motorcyclist who actually was pulling the wife out of the car. >> yes. she started screaming. then we saw the baby. that's when we started seeing the baby inside the car with

her, you know? and everybody started screaming, no, no, not the lady. not with the baby. please don't do that. i screamed, too. so in that moment, i saw a man getting knocked out on the floor, and they started hitting him with the helmet right on the floor. >> using their helmets to hit the driver. >> yes, real hard. >> how many people? >> there was a lot of blood all over the place. >> was it one person using a helmet? >> no, a couple men, yes. so they were big, too. real big. big guys. and that's when like i started thinking, i got to do something. because nobody's doing nothing. and they are going to kill this family. and basically, this doesn't seem -- it doesn't sound good to

me. i mean like i got to do something. so i basically i didn't think about it. i just went inside there. i screamed, not the lady. he somehow heard us saying those things. he stopped. so when he stopped, i approached the man because i saw him almost dead on the floor. so what i did was i confronted these people. and i stood between them and the man lying on the floor. and i say to them, that's it. let her go. let her go, man. that's it. he's done. don't continue doing it. you're going to kill the man. >> you were actually standing between one of the people who was hitting the guy with his helmet and the man on the floor, the driver. >> yes. >> you stood between them. >> between them, yeah. there was many. >> were the motorcyclists saying anything back to you? >> yeah. one of them screaming say with the helmet on top of him, and he say, no. because i tell him please stop.

don't -- let it go. and then one of them, a short guy, he say, no, because he ran one of us. so i didn't understand what he was saying. i didn't know what happened before, you know? before anything else. >> he was saying that the driver ran over one of the motorcycles. >> that's what i heard him saying. but i didn't want to talk to him, engage in any whatever situation that happened before. so i kept saying the same thing. i stood my ground. and i looked at them in the eyes. and they look at me. so basically there was a little tense moment of maybe a couple of seconds looking at each other. and they somehow got, i don't know how they stoppeded. but somehow they stopped. >> was the driver of the suv who was on the floor, was he conscious? was he saying anything? >> no. no. he wasn't saying anything. he was just lying there bleeding. that's the moment when i turned

around and went like this, protecting the family. and i said to them, i'm not going to move from here until they go, you know? so that's how they somehow took a picture there. >> in new york, oftentimes you see something happening you just walk away. >> yes. >> you actually -- you moved toward what a lot of people run from. >> i'm a family man. i have ten kids. and when i saw the lady with that baby, that's when it hit me. and i say, i have to do something. even if i take a chance, even if they hit me or whatever they do, i'm going to have to do something. now, in my mind i tried not to confront them. i have the idea of like letting them know that i'm not there to confront them but to protect the family, to stop it. you know, to avoid somebody getting killed. so that's what i did. so i kept my hand so they could not that they could see.

so i kept putting out my hands to let them know i'm not ready to engage in any whatever situation they are to any fight. >> you obviously -- you didn't see what happened earlier. but given what you saw in that moment of the motorcyclists, do you have any doubt that what they did was wrong in that moment? >> yes. definitely. >> you're sure it was the right thing -- that what they did was wrong. >> yes. it was wrong. i mean, like it was like hell in there. >> as a resident of the city, thank you for what you did. and i want to get your number because if i'm ever in trouble i want you -- i want to know where you are in the city. i'm going to come to you. >> basically, i just want to say that this type of situation will have to end. >> thank you for what you did. an honor to meet you.

>> thank you. >> his name is sergio consuegra. a well-known resident in washington heights. and everybody should thank him. because what he did is just something too few people do in a big city like this sometimes. coming up, the woman accused of pushing her husband off a cliff eight days after their wedding. she enters a plea. also more news tonight, tornado in nebraska. a storm heading for the tropical coast. we'll have the latest from chad myers. both maxwell and ted have hail damage to their cars. ted is trying to get a hold of his insurance agent. maxwell is not. he's on geico.com setting up an appointment with an adjuster. ted is now on hold with his insurance company. maxwell is not and just confirmed a 5:30 time for tuesday. ted, is still waiting. yes! maxwell is out and about... with ted's now ex-girlfriend. wheeeee! whoo! later ted! online claims appointments. just a click away on geico.com. it's not a candy bar.

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breaking news. tornadoes are touching down in iowa after hitting nebraska earlier. the same weather system causing blizzard conditions in wyoming, colorado. what's the latest we know about these tornadoes first of all? >> reporter: still on the ground. iowa still on the ground. cherokee, iowa, i need you to take cover right now. a large, violent, confirmed tornado on the ground headed to your town. this started in nebraska. here in wayne, nebraska a couple of tornadoes and then not too far from jefferson and iowa. this storm kind of fizzled out around hinton. another big storm through sloan, iowa. missed it by a mile or two. on up here toward cherokee. that's the storm we're worried about.

we think of severe weather system as spring. that's because warm air is pushing away cold air. now fall is cold air pushing away the warm air. it's still the clash the warm and the cold. it's snowing in the black hills. it's snowing feet of snow in the black hills. wyoming 24, 46 inches of snow and wind blowing at 40 miles per hour with this storm. so yes, it's a big weather setup. there's warm air on this side. severe weather here. and tornadoes right along the front. lots of snow. south dakota, parts of nebraska. it even snowed in boulder, colorado. that had the flooding just a couple of weeks ago. >> crazy. what about the tropical storm karen? where is it right now? >> reporter: it is stationary. and i don't like it when storms get stationary. they can die, but that also means they can spend more time in the water. so it's stopped for now. it's going to turn to the north and eventually on up toward the northeast, probably toward florida. but here's the rub. that's what happens if you see this kind of get stopped and not

really make any progress, it can sit there, spend more time and then get a little bit bigger. we are expecting this storm to get up toward new orleans and then turn to the right just like that. and there it goes right through there and probably run over pensacola. we have an awful lot of crews here up and down the beaches to watch this for you. the problem with this is not storm surge or wind for that matter. but if you get a 50-mile-per-hour wind, anderson, this entire area is soggy. completely soggy. it has rained more here this summer than ever before. record rainfalls. 50-mile-per-hour wind and those trees are going to go whap. millions of trees down. >> appreciate the update. pamela brown joins me now with a 360 bulletin. anderson, an eyewitness says a man set himself on fire in washington's national mall today. the witness says he saw a gas canister near the man and several people used their shirts to put out the fire. the man was airlifted to a hospital. the woman accused of pushing her newlywed husband off the cliff pleaded not guilty in a montana courtroom today.

jordan lynn graham is charged with first and second degree murder and making false statements. graham and cody johnson were married just over a week when he died on a hiking trail in glacier national park. and new york yankee alex rodriguez is suing major league baseball and commissioner bud selig for damages claiming they tried to destroy his reputation and career. the lawsuit accuses the league of engaging in vigilante justice to prove a-rod was using performance enhancing drugs. he's fighting to overturn his suspension. anderson? >> pamela, thanks very much. we'll be right back. ñn