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black lentil. >> delicious. >> this is 53-feet long. they say it took only ten minutes to make that thing. >> a lot of people worked on it. looks delicious, though. >> thanks a lot that's it for "around the world." "cnn newsroom" starts right now. right now the house is in session, but the government is still in a partial shutdown. we're in stay six of showdown. and house speaker john boehner is focused in on spending cuts instead of obama care. standby. new information coming in also right now, we're watching the president of the united states. he's getting ready to speak. we'll have more on that. and a suspects al qaeda terrorist is in u.s. military custody after lightning fast raid by commandos but another special force operations in somalia, unclear how much of its objective was achieved. we'll debrief the ranking member of the house intelligence committee.
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he's been briefed on libya and somalia. as, we're watching all the day's important news. hello to our viewers i'm wolf blitzer in washington. just moments ago, president obama urged congress to end it. jim acosta is our senior white house correspondent. he's standing by. jim, the president make something comments during a visit to fema headquarters near washington. what did he say? >> well, wolf, as you mentioned, president obama made the surprise trip over to fema just about an hour ago to talk to federal employees over there. he lamented the fact that the shutdown is continuing. said it's impacting the work over at fema. interesting to note, wolf, that the director of fema, craig fugate said at this event 80% of employees have been furloughed as a result of the shutdown. he's brought some of them back
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over the tropical storm karen. now that karen has passed he's now having to refurlough the workers. that gives you a look into the window of federal workers. sometimes, they're on, they're furloughed, refurloughed. the president went back to the comments he's been making the past several days to get the clean resolution, a clean increase to the debt ceiling,py made those comments again. and basically said if those things are not done, we're still headi heading perilously. one thing i want to point, there is perhaps conciliatory language -- >> hold on a second. the president now we got the tape of his comments at fema headquarters. >> first of all, i want to thank craig fugate, his entire team. and the incredible workers who are here at fema. they are having to, under less than optimal situations, still
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respond to mother they'd. which doesn't stop just because the government has shut down. i want to get initially a briefing on what had happened with hurricane karen became tropical storm karen. and then fortunately dissipated. so we dodged a bullet there. in the meantime, we're on tornado watch in the mid-atlantic states because of the severe weather patterns. and we've got blizzards up north. we've got some weather patterns in the middle of the country that we're still. monitoring. i just want to say thank you to all of you for the incredible work that you're doing. i think it's important to understand that the people here at fema have been doing everything they can to respond to potential events. here at fema, they're in touch with their state and local partners in case resources are needed. fema remains prepared for
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natural disasters year-round with supplies repositioned in distribution centers across the country but their job has been made more difficult. thanks to the folks at fema, we were prepared for what might have happened down in florida. nevertheless, the government is still shut down. services are still interrupted. and hundreds of thousands of hard working public servants including many fema professionals are still furloughed without pay, or they're not allowed to work at all. so craig was just explaining to me here at fema, about 86% of the fema workforce is furloughed. in response to the potential event that might have happened down in florida, and along the coast, craig called back 200 of those workers. keep in mind, calling them back doesn't mean they're getting paid. it just means they had the privilege of working without pay to make sure they're doing
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everything they can to respond to the potential needs of their fellow systems. now that this particular storm has dissipated. craig is going to have to refurlough at least 1 of those folks who were called back. think about that, here you are a fema professional, dedicated to doing your job. at a moment's notice you're willing to show up here in case people got in respond and respond to them, even though you're not getting paid. even though you don't have certainty. and now you're getting put back on furlough because the government is shut down. that's no way of doing business. that, by the way, just speaks to the day-to-day emergencies that may come up and that is fema's job to respond to. craig was also explaining the fact that when it comes to training first responders, for example, we have, on a weekly basis already scheduled training for first responders that now have to be rescheduled. he will probably end up
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ultimately costing the government more money for us to put those things back together again. and so not only the shutdown hurting fema workers, not only is it making it more difficult to respond to potential natural disasters but it may actually end up costing taxpayers more than it should. right now, congress should do what's in the best interest of the economy and the american people. and that's move beyond this manufactured crisis and work together to focus on growth, jobs and providing the vital services that americans all across the country depend on. including the services that fema provides. i heard a lot of talk over the weekend that the real problem is that the president will not negotiate. well, let me tell you something, i have said from the start of the year, that i'm happy to talk to republicans about anything. related to the budget. there's not a subject that i'm
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not willing to engage in, work on, negotiate and come up with common sense compromises on. what i've said is that i cannot do that under the threat that if republicans don't get 100% of their way they're going to either shut down the government or they are going to default on america's debt. so that america, for the first time in history, does not pay its bills. that is not something i will do. we're not going to establish that pattern. we're not going to negotiate under the threat of further harm to our economy and build class families. we're not going to negotiate under the threat of a prolonged shutdown until republicans get 100% of what they want. we're not going to negotiate under the threat of economic catastrophe that economists and ceos ultimately warned would result if congress chose to got america's obligations.
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now, the other thing i heard over the weekend was this notion that congress doesn't have the capacity to end this shutdown. the truth of the matter is, there are enough republican and democratic votes in the house of representatives right now to end the shut down. immediately. with no partisan strings attached. the house should hold that vote today. if republicans and speaker boehner is saying there are not enough votes, then they should prove it. let the bill go to the floor and let's see what happens. just vote. let's every member of congress vote their conscience. they can determine whether or not they want to shut the government down. my suspicion is there are the number of votes there. the reason speaker boehner hasn't called for the vote he's apparently not wanting to see the government ready but shut
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down again. i think the american people simply want government to work. and there's no reason that there has to be a shutdown in order for the kinds of negotiations speaker boehner says he wants to proceed. hold a vote. call a vote right now, and let's see what happens. the second is thing congress needs to do is raise the debt ceiling next week so the treasury can pay the bills that congress has already spent. that's what most americans do if they buy something. they buy a car, if they buy a house. if they put something on a credit card, they understand they got to pay the bills. this is something routine. it's been done more than 40 times since ronald reagan was president. it's never before been used in the kind of ways republicans are talking about using it right now. we can't threat an economic catastrophe in the midst of negotiations. authorize to pay america's
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bills. pass the budget, american shutdown and the economic shutdown. as soon as that happens, i'm eager and ready to sit down and negotiate with republicans on a whole range of issues. how do we create more jobs? how do we boost manufacturing? how do we make sure our kid, getting a first-class education? all of those things will be on the table. i'm happy to talk about health care. i'll be happy to talk about energy policy. how do we deal with the long-term fiscal situation. all of those things i've been eager and talk to republicans about for the last seven months. and i've put out a budget that specifically lays out my vision for out we're going to grow this economy. and i expect the republicans can do the same and we can negotiate it. but we shouldn't hurt a whole bunch of people in order for one side to think they're going to have more leverage in those negotiations. last point i'm going to make,
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the bill that is being presented to end the government shutdown reflects republican priorities. it's the republican budget. the funding levels of this short-term funding bill called the c.r., is far lower than what democrats think it should be. nevertheless, democrats are prepared to put the majority of votes on to reopen the government. so when you hear this notion that democrats aren't compromising, we're compromising so much we're willing to reopen the government at funding levels that reflect republican wishes. don't at all reflect our wishes. for example, here at fema they're still subject to the sequester, so even before the shutdown, they were having trouble making sure that everybody was staying on the job and fulfilling all of their various functions. we need to get that sequester lifted that's been hanging over the head of the economy and federal agencies during the course of this entire year.
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this short-term legislation to reopen the government doesn't even address that. that has to be done in a broader budget framework. so, democrats had said, we are willing to pass a bill that reflects the republicans' priorities, in terms of funding levels. that's a pretty significant compromise. what we're not willing to do is to create a permanent pattern in which unless you get your way the government is shut down or america defaults. that's not how we do business in this country. and we're not going to start now. so, again, i want to thank everybody at fema here for the extraordinary work that you're doing. you show each and every day that you take your responsibility seriously. you do your jobs with consummate
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professionalism, and hopefully, you're setting a good example for members of congress. they need to be doing the same thing. and if they do, there's no reason why we all can't move forward and make sure we're taking care of america's business. all right. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. so there's the president of the united states responding in effect to the house speaker john boehner, saying boehner suggesting yesterday there aren't enough votes in the house of representatives to go ahead and pass what's calling a clean continuinging resolution. the president saying prove it to the speaker of the house, he thinks there are enough votes with 235 members, two vacancies. you need 217 votes to pass. the president says there are 217 if you add the democrats and those willing republicans.
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the speaker says not so fast. jim acosta was listening. i did hear a little flexibility. the long-term debt release spending. he's not willing to renegotiate over obama care. maybe there's an opening we're all hearing right now. is that too optimistic? >> i think we're going to have to wait and see if it's too optimistic, wolf. but white house officials are saying that the president is open, i guess, to a negotiable length when it comes to how much the debt ceiling is raised. and there was some rumblings last week, gene sperling, the top presidential adviser talked about it a little bit this morning. yes, while the president is not willing to negotiate a trade or concessions in change for the debt resolution, he's not going to toy with the budget or future budget deals with the threat of the government being shut down or a theft of a debt default
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ongoing. but they are willing to look at just how much you raise that debt ceiling, wolf. and that could potentially give all sides some breathing room to deal with a longer term budget. if not a grand bargain, perhaps a little bargain, sometime in the next few months. jay carney is scheduled to hold that briefing in this room within the hour. we'll have to test carney to see how far he's willing to go. how much he's willing to say in terms of what that debt ceiling deal might look like, wolf. perhaps an opening, a small opening but perhaps an opening. >> president obama saying i'll be happy to talk to republicans about anything. suggesting maybe there some areas they can avoid any default. stand by, jim. gloria borger standing by. dana bash on capitol hill. much more assess when we come back. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car!
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let's assess what we just heard from president are obama. dana bash is the chief congressional correspondent. gloria borger is the chief analyst. the president saying respond to get house speaker, prove it. speaker boehner says there aren't enough votes to pass a clean funding resolution, democrats and republicans, you need 217 affirmative votes. if, if that were allowed to come up for a vote, so far, it's not been allowed to come up for a vote. here's the question, is it guaranteed if boehner were to relent and say go ahead, members of the house, vote, would it pass? >> almost certainly guaranteed. i never want to say for sure in this business of would watching congress work its will, but it is very hard to see a clean bill, keeping the government running, or reopening the government, i should say not passing at this point. there are ohm republicans who have said, you know, at least a
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dozen, probably twice that, who have said that they would vote for it if it were on the floor. of course, the issue still goes back to what you and i talked to all last week and even the week before, wolf, is those republicans who have said that have not been willing to put their vote where their mouth is. they have not been willing to do whatever it takes to reopen the government. to defy john boehner, defy the leadership. go ahead, for example, there's something called a motion -- excuse me, there's a motion they can work on with democrats to get 217 votes to force this bill on the floor. and they haven't been able to do that. so that's the reason why the president said what he said. put it on the floor and prove it. because it's hard to see it not passing at this point. >> one way it wouldn't pass, glor gloria, i'll let you weigh in. i suspect that dana is right.
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but if enough democrats didn't vote in favor of it. >> right. >> 200 democrats, 233 republicans. over the weekend, 195 voting members. >> right. >> they did sign a letter suggesting they would vote that way. maybe not all of them would. there are some democrats ideologically don't like that funding number. then you need close to 30 republicans. right now if there's a dozen or two dozen it would still be tenuous. >> as nancy pelosi said last week, look, our folks don't like this number. we're already giving on this number. it inflates many of the cuts we didn't like so we've already negotiated effectively. and we have said yes. they don't like it, particularly, the left wing of the party. they don't like it. nancy pelosi doesn't like it but they've already committed. they've said 195 of them -- >> that doesn't necessarily mean
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they'll vote that way. >> no, but if push came to shove and they needed the votes and if they thought republicans would provide those 20 to 25, whatever they need, then i think you'd have to say they would do it. because they're whole thing is we don't want the government to shut down. they could always argue, we're going to come back and deal with those budget issues at some later date. >> is it for sure, dana, i know you've been counting the democrats. 195 democrats at least would vote in favor of what we're calling this clean bill? >> well, they signed a letter suggesting that that's exactly what they would do. and the democratic leadership forced that. i mean, they got this letter going. and to pass it around to prove that very thing. so, presumably, they would vote the way they said they would in this letter, that they released over the weekend. but one thing i think is also important to point out, wolf, is that obviously, the government is shut down and has been for
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about a week now. but the president also made a very big deal out of the next important fight which is already ongoing. and i think a lot of people on capitol hill have already turned to this and that is the debt ceiling. i can report to you that senate democrats, we are told are getting ready to move the very first vote on raising the debt ceiling. i'm told it's likely to be through the year of the 2014 election and we're likely to see the vote before the end of this week. all of those things are kind of being melded together. and it is entirely possible we could get to next week, dealing with the debt ceiling, and the shutdown would be completely combined into any kind of talks in the debt ceiling. of course, the debt ceiling, when you talk about the economy, as we've said so many times would be so much more catastrophic than the shut down has been. >> you heard speaker boehner over the weekend talk about some kind of discussions on budget
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issues. he clearly -- he took a little shift, i think, dana, right, to start talking about budget issues in regard to the debt ceiling. of course, the problem is, they have to get beyond the shutting down the government. then they can sit down and talk. and then the president's democrats, as wolf was talking about earlier, then they can get really update because they don't want any cuts in medicare, for example. >> yeah, the president, he needs to call up john boehner and the two of them, without anybody else, they have to start talking and talking. dana don't go too far away. gloria sheer as well. two u.s. commando raids overseas signaling just how important american forces have become in gets terrorists. the ranking member is standing by. will talk about the latest blow
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questions. let's listen in. >> -- and now to reassure it would reopen and allow time for further negotiations is not some sort of, you know, fulfillment of democratic priorities. you know that, everybody here who covers the budgets knows that. democrats and the president has asked for i believe additional funding set by the c.r. but have made no demands associated with that. none, whatsoever, zero. >> regarding the second week as you said, you were were making these points before the government shutdown and it doesn't seem to be having a lot of impact on speaker boehner. an i understand all the points that you're making. given that the politics and the house seem to be making it difficult for him to put a clean c.r. on the floor, does the president feel there's anything he can do to lay out something specific, make some kind of promise to boehner and house republicans of negotiations afterwards, specific to what they want, that way give boehner political cover to take this
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step? >> your question contains within it, i think, the essence of why americans hate the dysfunction here. because the suggestion is that the speaker of the house can't do the obvious and right thing because of his internal party politics. that this has to do with, you know, his job as opposed to the jobs of those who have been furloughed. or the jobs of those americans who would be out of work if we were to aslou, the house republicans and the republicans in congress to allow the unthinkable which is a default on our obligationses. and i hope, and i don't want to believe that that's the case. that, you know, the republicans and the speaker have said, you know, they staked out their position that they insist on getting something out of this. some ex -- extracting some political concession, in return
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for opening the people's government. in return for paying the bills that they racked up. and what the president is saying is that we can't do that because that would be putting in jeopardy the stability of our economy for the long term. and it would great harm to our democratic system if every time it was necessary for the united states to take action to pay its obligations, a minority in congress, a faction of one party and one house, in one branch of government, could make a series of ideological demands and refuse to pay our bills if they didn't get it. and that would be regardless of party, that would be true if a republican were sitting in the oval office and the roles were reversed. it's a precedent that should not and must not be set. >> with the raid this weekend, can you say who was questioning
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the suspect who was looked up in libya and what the the rules are with international waters? >> well, i can obviously confirm that mr. al libi was arrested and that he is in u.s. custody. i don't have more details for you about where he is. the operations were conducted, as you know, by the u.s. military under the authority conferred by the authorization to use military worse from 2001 which authorizes the use of military force against al qaeda and associated forces. you know, this operation was made possible by the superb work and coordination across our national security agencies and the intelligence community. the fact of the matter is that abu anas al libi has been
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indicted in conspiracy to kill u.s. nationals and to conduct attacks against u.s. worldwide. which includes forces stationed in saudi arabia, yemen, somalia. sfels in dara, nairobi and kenya. so that indictment has been spending, and we believe, in a system, that brings people to justice through indictment, and that's what -- you know, we're witnessing now. yeah. >> jay, thank you -- >> all right, jay carney, the white house press secretary answering questions on two subjects right there. you heard about the government shutdown, raising the debt ceiling. also about those two raids. and new details are emerging today about those two raids by u.s. special forces over the weekend. in africa. in tripoli, libya, commandos
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with the u.s. arm's delta force captured a man wanted in connection with the 1998 attacks on the u.s. embassies in tanzania and kenya. he's identifies as abu anas al libi. officials say he will be sent to new york for city for a trial. 3,000 miles away, a second raid did not go as necessarily planned. they were after the leader of the al shabaab terrorist group which claimed responsibility for the slaughter two weeks ago at a shopping mall in nairobi, kenya. they had to with draw, they did not suffer any casualties. democratic congressman dutch ruppersberger is the ranking
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member of the house intelligence committee. he's been briefed on these operations. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> sure, it's good to be here, wolf. >> let's talk about al libi, first of all this was obviously a snatch operation, rendition, whatever you want to call it. are you okay with his being aboard a u.s. warship right now, being interrogated by u.s. military and intelligence personnel? >> without any question. we know that there are terrorists out there that are plotting to attack and kill us and our allies every day. al libi was involved in the attack in 1998 against our two embassies, one in tanzania, the other in kenya where american lives were lost. and by the way, there's a lot of issues about if he's in our custody or where he's going to go. he was indicted. and by the united states of america, for killing americans. four of his cohorts have already been tried and convicted by jury and they're all serving life sentences right now. we have to send a message to terrorists throughout the world.
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you can hide, but we will find you. and we have to let them know we will come after them in order for us to prevent terrorist acts in the future. >> you want them to be tried in new york and tried in new york? >> i'm not sure where it's going to be. but i think the criminal justice system of the united states say good system. i happen to be a former prosecutor. and it's a system that we follow. and the facts are there. you're prove -- you're considered to be innocent. and the state or the government must prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to a moral certainty. i'm sure with the evidence we have right now that we hopefully will be able to win that case also. but we have to send a message to terrorists throughout the world who want to kill us. we're going to stand up to you and we're going to do whatever we can legally to stop you. and we will bring you to justice. and that's what we're doing here today. >> he's in u.s. custody. he's on a ship, a warship, right now, presumably in the mediterranean some place. does he have any legal rights?
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in other words, does he have a right to an attorney? does he have a right to remain silent or is that all thrown out and he can be questioned at will by u.s. authorities? >> well, there's certain rights that he would have. >> what about right now? >> it depends on what they want to do. basically, he's in our custody, and he's going to be treated like anyone else. there's certain issues in the world that we have and certain laws, too. eventually, hopefully, he will give us the information. if he doesn't want to talk, he will grow through our system. and he's in our custody, just like any other arrest in the united states. he will go through the process and procedures and be given the rights to atrial. >> operation libya was clearly successful but not necessarily the operation in somalia, what happened there? >> well, look, somalia is like the wild west. tear terrorists.
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and the government is not very strong. there are people there being trained to kill as terrorists. al shabaab is the group that really did the unspeakable. killing of innocent people in kenya. and they are trained, and they have ammunition and they know what they're doing. but we again, again to protect the united states, and to bring people to justice who have targeted us and killed americans, we attempted to do and we attempted to capture or really bring to justice people in somalia. but we had to come back. we didn't want any of our navy members who put their lives on the line for us to be hurt. they had gunfire. they had resistance and they decided to come back. >> was it a coincidence or deliberate that both of these operations in libya and somalia were taking place at the same time? >> you know, when you get intelligence, what you have to do in the military to find out where your targets are, to make
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sure men and women -- men really in this situation, special ops did not put their lives on the line you try to do as much as you can to protect them. you go when you think the timing is right. from what i understand, based on the information i received they didn't happen to occur at the same time. but the timing was right pursuant to the intelligence to would both of these raids close tow almost -- it was on the same day. >> that's what i was hearing as well. you know a lot more about this stuff than i do. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. >> okay, wolf. take care. >> dutch ruppersberger is the ranking member of the house committee. still ahead on the government shutdown, tea party republicans are they driving the fight on the crisis and the debt limit? i'll speak to one of those gop moderates about what he thinks will happen next. representative charlie dent is standing by. rial fibrillation -- an irregular heartbeat,
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moments ago, president obama was over at fema headquarters here in washington speaking about the government shutdown and the need to raise the debt ceiling by october 17th. listen to what he said. >> we're not going to negotiate under the threat of further harm to our economy and middle class families. we're not going to negotiate under the threat of a prolonged shutdown, until republicans get 100% of what they want. we're not going to negotiate
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under the threat of economic catastrophe that economists and ceos increasingly warned would result if congress chose to default on america's obligations. >> the partial government shutdown and the debate over raising the debt ceiling certainly has some moderate republicans caught in the middle. republicans backed by the tea party have been in the driver's seat, at least so far, using the debate to take on obama care. house speaker john boehner says he doesn't have the votes to pass a resolution with no conditions attached to end the shutdown. let's bring in one of those more moderate republicans. representative charlie dent of pennsylvania is joining us. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf, for having me. i appreciate it. >> would you be of the members in the hoe hoss to vote what's calling a clean resolution with no strings attached to get the government up and running? >> yes, i said that repeatedly. in fact i was one of the folks who insisted that we vote on a
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clean resolution on september 30th so the government wouldn't be shut down. i've been very outspoken on that, pete king and others have been clear. i think there are votes to pass the clean c.r. >> what about the procedural vote that would allow such a resolution, a motion to discharge, whatever it's called. you don't seem ready to vote for that which would force the speaker's hand and allow this clean resolution to come up? why won't you support that, or will you? >> first, let's be clear about a resolution. it's something that has to be signed. the bill to be sign is not the c.r. bill. >> but it would set the stage for that kind of vote to come up? >> the issue with the discharge petition is this, you would not be able to deal with that until the second or fourth mondays of the month. that would be columbus day observed on the 14th. i'm not even sure that the discharge petition would be ripened by that time. my hope is that we will be able to resolve this situation prior
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to october 14th which i believe would be the earliest you could deal with that discharge petition. but i believe you couldn't deal with it until october 28th for all practical purposes. >> i hate to get into the weeds of washington -- we'll inside washington legislative talk right now. but if it were to come up, that motion to discharge which would force the speaker's hand and allow a continuing resolution to come up nor a aye or nay vote on the house floor, would you vote in favor of that procedural move? >> no, i will not sign a discharge petition. i'm not going to sign a discharge petition on the langford bill which is really what is being asked. >> and the reason being? >> that is out not the clean c.r. and the would be would be we want to resolve this problem, prior to the time you could consider that particular bill, which would be at the very earliest i believe october 14th probably not until the 28th. >> but what if the government's still shut down october 14th? >> i'm going to insist that the speaker try to bring out a clean
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continuing resolution to the one i said i would support. also i said that -- you know, i believe that representative ron kind and i of wisconsin have represented a reasonable, a reasonable alternative, for many members. let's do the clean c.r. for six months, at the republican number of $986 billion. let's repeal the medical device act and pay for it. ron kind and i have a whole group of democrats and republicans on board with this. the far left is not going to like that proposal because it does make a change to the health care law. the far right is not going to like it because at the end of the day it does not defund the health care law. i believe there's a lot of space for folks to get behind that. it's bipartisan. if you can't do that let's do the clean c.r. as i said i would vote for it. i would urge the speaker to bring it out for a vote. >> i know you and peter king and i few other republicans would vote for a clean c.r.
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by how many in your count would there be, let's say the speaker would relent? how many would vote in favor of it? >> i think in "the washington post" they were keeping track of the number of republican members who said they would support a clean c.r. the last i checked there were a little over 20 who said publicly. i think there are many privately who would vote for a clean c.r. they have just not stated so public. i believe the votes are there. it's not being brought out, i pittsburgh, because it might violate the haskert rule as you're aware. or perhaps the speaker wants to conflate both the debt ceiling and the continuing resolution. i would prefer we not do that, but as time wears on, i suspect the conflation of these two issues will become inevitable. >> from your perspective, who's more to blame right now, the speaker or the president for this government shutdown? >> well, look, there's a lot of
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blame to go around. i believe the tactic that was deployed part of the defunding the health care law was never a good slugz. solution. i believe that was senator cruz. and the president, he's willing to negotiate. i just heard on the previous segment, he said he's not going to give the republicans 100% of what they want. nobody's asking for 100%. the president needs to sit down and negotiate, too. there's a lot of blame going around. if i had to cast blame i would say it was senator cruz and those who insisted upon this tactic that we all knew was not going to succeed. what he did essentially, senator cruz, basically, he took say lot of folks in the ditch. now that we're in the ditch, you can't get out of the ditch, the senator has no plan, those who
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can get out of the ditch, will be criticized by those put in the ditch in the first place. >> speaker of the house, as you well know, he bought on to that strategy, for good or bad, it became his strategy in the house of representatives. it may have been senator cruz's idea but your leadership in the house bought it? >> well, over my objections. i insisted that -- look, here's my position. okay, we can vote to defund the law that was sent back from the senate. now, prepared to do a second launch which was to delay the law by a year and repeal the medical device act which is a big issue where i live. at that point, approaching september 30th, i said well now's the time to do the clean c.r. and i voted accordingly at that time. i wished more of my colleagues had joined me. that's what i felt we should have done, on the 30th, put this thing to bed once and for all. it was never a plan in the leadership in the house to shut down. in fact, the plan was to pass a clean c.r. all along.
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that was the plan, i want to stick to that plan, i believe, inevitably, that's where we will end. you. >> charlie dent is a republican from pennsylvania. congressman, always good to have you here on the show. >> thank you, wolf. great to be with you. it's creating a lot of buzz today. the other story we're watching. how did a 9-year-old get past security, get on a plane to las vegas without even having a boarding pass? feels like your e revolves around your symptoms, ask your gastroenterologist about humira adalimumab. humira has been proven to work for adults who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief, and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer, have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred.
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a 9-year-old boy hops a plane to las vegas, only thing is he had no boarding pass and no parents nearby. george howell has more on this bizarre story from minnesota. >> reporter: this is where it all started. a 9-year-old boy walked off a light rail car thursday and into the minneapolis airport with plans to travel, but no ticket. he passed through the security checkpoint and tsa screening, no problem. then he continued on to the g-concourse, specifically here at gate g-4, but it's still unclear exactly how he got past the ticket agent who was collecting tickets here. what we do know is this minor did board flight 1671 and traveled some 1300 miles to las vegas. officials say it wasn't until
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the flight crew became suspicious because he was traveling alone and contacted las vegas metropolitan police and took the child into custody. >> they should have took him to the table because his luck was doing well once he got to vegas. >> the whole thing highlights big gaps in security, especially when it comes to children. >> that 9-year-old child does not need identification, anyone under 18, so i can understand standing behind a family or whatever, if a family is checking in and they're not aware he's standing behind them, i can understand that. i cannot understand the dealta gate agents. it happened there. >> while no one would talk on camera, we did get a lot of statements. first, from the tsa, essentially saying they did their jobs. quote, the child was screened along with all other passengers to insure that he was not a threat to the aircraft. and then delta. quote, delta is taking this
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incident very seriously and working with authorities in the investigation. due to the fact that is involved a minor, we're not commenting further at this time. for the traveling public, who know the rigorous routine of airport screening -- >> we have to go through, taking our shoes, put them in the basket, go through the belt, go through the thing. >> it's a mystery how a child could have slipped through the cracks. >> i'm quite surprised he got through security with all the things we as adults have to go through. >> days after nis happened, there are a lot of questions. the big one now, did this young child come here the day before to scope the place out? cnn can now confirm through airport officials he did arrive here wednesday. he was caught on surveillance cameras and they saw him go to a baggage carousel, take someone's luggage, take that to a restaurant, get some food, leave the baggage there, dine and dash, only to return the next day for his fantastic voyage. at this point, wolf, it's still
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unclear whether he is in nevada or if he's been transferred back here to minneapolis. >> the mystery continues. george, thank you very much. here's a question, could a name change be a game changer? the word redskins, is it offensive? are people making too much of a fuss? a lot of people say the answer is yes. even the president of the united states has something to say about it. if you're seeing spots before your eyes, it's time for aveeno® positively radiant face moisturizer. [ female announcer ] aveeno® with soy helps reduce the look of brown spots in 4 weeks. for healthy radiant skin. aveeno®. naturally beautiful results.
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now a fresh push behind a movement to change the name of the washington redskins. now we even have the president weighing in. here's what president obama told the associated press, and i'll quote him. i've got to say if i were the owner of that team and i knew there was a tename of my team, even if it had a storied history, if it offended a sizable group of people, i would think about changing it. the oneida indian nation has spoken out about what's going on here in washington. what did they say? >> we'll show you what they said right away. this is ray of the united indian nation. they're here in town to draw more attention to it. here is what ray said just a few hours ago. >> if it's offending people and it's time to change it. and this is a great time to do it. regardless of the history, regardless of its legacy, it's offensive. it's a dictionary defined offensive term.
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>> now, the redskins, wolf, have responded to all this by saying basically this is an expression of honor, not disparagement. they issued a statement after obama spoke on saturday about this. they're saying polling one 9-year-old poll that says most native americans are not offended by tname and also most americans do not want the name changed. again, there's more momentum with president obama saying what tee did, and roger goodell saying not tee long ago, if people are offended, we should at least listen. that's a big step to say that, but you haveden snider, the owner of the redskins saying in may, you can put it in caltle letters, we will never, never change the name. >> and his former counsel to president clinton said if you change the redskins, you have to change the name of the cleveland aindians, the braves, the blackhawks. what are people saying about that? >> lenny davis says their fans don't find that offensive and that that'so
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