tomorrow night, a man who is never shy about expressing his opinion, and he knows a lot on this subject, donald trump, and the art of the deal. that is all for us tonight. there's a real simple solution. the speaker of the house could solve this today. >> our message in the house has been pretty clear. reopen our government and provide fairness to all americans under the president's health care law. >> the government shutdown gridlock could soon be over. the president meeting today with white house republicans. can they compromise on getting americans back on track? >> executives have been warning the administration bluntly this whole system is not ready for prime time. >> obama care's rocky rollout.

just how much did the white house know about the problems for the sign-up process for the health care law? libya's prime minister detained by gunmen. we are live with the latest developments there. >> shaky situation there and get to that in a minute. a lot going on this morning despite the fact it is wicked earliship i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it is 4:01 in the east. take a look at the capitol this morning. the dysfunction beneath that dome that gave us the shutdown we are now under and not able to pay our bills. this morning, there are small, tiny signs of progress, maybe, that might at least keep the country from defaulting on its debt. 18 top republicans are said to visit the white house today to meet with the president. that as multiple republican

house members and sources close to house leaders tell cnn they are working on a proposal to raise the debt ceiling temporarily, perhaps four to six weeks. that could open the door to negotiations on a longer term solution. however, it is not all happy music and unicorns yet. it just deals with the debt part. this will be unwelcomed news to hundreds of thousands of federal employees not being paid right now, not to mention a lot of americans who depend on those services. let's get the latest from senior white house correspondent brianna keilar. >> reporter: finally, they are talking. house democrats met the president at the white house last night. >> we just had a very positive meeting with the president of the united states. >> reporter: president obama's message, he is open to a short-term deal to increase the debt ceiling for six weeks,

according to a lawmaker in the meeting. republicans are warming to the idea of a shorter deal, followed by negotiations with the president on reducing the debt and deficit. house budget committee chairman paul ryan penned an op-ed in "wall street journal" that did not demand to obama care but tea-backed party republicans still want that fight after a brief debt ceiling increase and arguing against ending the government shutdown. >> i would do a debt ceiling for six weeks so the president would negotiate with john boehner and keep the fight on the continued resolution and obama care. >> reporter:? buffs with local news stations, president obama was asked to explain his own vote against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. >> i voted against a debt ceiling increase at the time because i had some concerns about what president bush was do. >> reporter: specifically, the bush tax cuts. and he argued it's okay for certain republicans to protest policies with a no vote, but he

said there must be a vote. >> there should never be a proposition where the speaker of the house is not willing to put those votes to the floor right now. >> reporter: congress isn't faring well in this budget fight. a new gallup shows republicans with a 28% favorable rate, down ten points since last month, the lowest for any party since 1992. democrats slid four points to 43%. brianna keilar, cnn, washington. >> seven days to go before the u.s. hits that debt ceiling. jack lew is headed to capitol hill this morning and testify before the senate finance committee in a few hours. the secretary has already warned congress that the u.s. will not have enough cash on hand to pay its bills if the debt ceiling is not raised before october 17th. that could send the nation into default for the very first time in history. it's ten days since they

rolled out obama care and the online glitches are continuing this morning. many have tried to logon to health care.gov. we are hearing more this morning about just what the administration was told about potential problems with this site way in advance. cnn's brian todd has that. >> reporter: luke chung operates a database company in northern virginia. he's an expert on heavily trafficked web sites but even he is frustrated navigating health care.gov. >> this is interesting. >> reporter: what do you got? >> i don't know what i had. i just tried to log into my account that i have already established. >> reporter: and? >> and it says unexpected error. >> reporter: since the rollout last week chung is only trying to get quote on prices and not even to enroll. error messages and booted out of the system and other problems have exasperated hundreds of

thousands. one democratic ally of the administration congressman robert andrews, says he spoke to the white house months before the unveiling. >> i discussed with the white house people things they already knew which was undertaking of this size is going to be very complex. >> reporter: andrews believes the white house was on top of the situation. robert lachefski, disagrees. he says many of his clients had meetings with the administration ahead of the rollout. >> executives have been warning the administration bluntly that this whole system is not ready for prime time. it wasn't going to be ready on october 1 to appropriately enroll people. >> reporter: but he says the white house ignored them. >> the administration didn't seem to understand the seriousness of it. they were blase about it a. >> reporter: he says they were not about to delay the rollout.

the white house insists it listened to insurers and knew about the problems. >> everyone was aware and we told you there would be glitches. >> reporter: what they are not telling you is exactly how many people have enrolled. they say they don't know the precise numbers. luke chung says. >> the data insists. i hope this has a database inside it that tells you everybody who is enrolled, much less the number of people who are enrolled. >> reporter: white house official tell us it's more complicated than that. they say they have to collect those numbers from several different sources and they have to make sure the numbers are accurate so they are sticking a plan to release the number of enrollments to once a month to ensure that accuracy. brian todd, cnn, washington. breaking news from libya now. cnn has learned the prime minister was apparently taken, taken from a hotel in tripoli by a large number of armed men. there is some confusion about

what is going on here so let's go live to tripoli where cnn's nic robertson has the latest developments for us. >> reporter: it is a developing story, john. about 3:30 a.m., gunmen went into a hotel and arrived in about 30 or 40 vehicles. the prime minister lives there. they went to his rooms and took him at gunpoint. no shots were fired. a group called the operations room of the libya revolutionary that claimed responsibility. they are portraying this as a legal move, saying that they have detained the prime minister and placed him in a jail in tripoli accusing him of crimes. we talked to the justice minister this morning and he says absolutely no way, no arrest warrant has been issued for the prime minister. the government is calling this a

kidnapping. they are meeting now to discuss what to do next. i met with the prime minister last night four hours before this kidnapping. he was happy. he was relaxed. he gave no indication that this might be about to happen. of course, many government officials ministers we have talked to have been concerned that the arrest of abu anas al libi, his arrest over the weekend was going to trigger some instability. this may be it, john. >> indeed. i mean, seizing him some 150 armed men is instability to say the least. any sign, nic there is a direct connection to the seizing of the libya terror suspect? does the prime minister have a close relationship with the united states? would be he an obvious target for retaliation? >> reporter: the prime minister has said that libya has a good relationship with the united

states. i was meeting with people in his office yesterday and the justice minister here who both said that libya signed a short range, long-range contracts with the united states to improve more enforcement here. these have been signed in the last few weeks. the prime minister has been saying despite the fact they are outraged what they call the abduction of abal libi, they say libya has good relations with the united states and the justice minister told me last night that perhaps he and and the prime minister had not been outraged enough with the situation of al libi. what we have heard from this group that claims to abducted the prime minister, the operations room of the libya revolutionists, they say there is no connection with the abduction of al libi. however, the reality is two days ago, they said on their facebook page that they would go out and hunt down and punish anyone connected to the government who

had been helping foreign intelligence services to capture al libi. so the connection is certainly there and it's whatever here believes to be behind all of this, john. >> last question here. it's kay hottic in libya right now to begin with. right now, the prime minister is in custody somewhere under armed guards. who is in charge? >> reporter: well, right now that would be the council administrators who are in charge here right now. right now, they are meeting to determine what their next move should be. but essentially this is going to come down to a standoff. this is a militia, the operations -- it is a militia that has been sanctioned by the government. the government here doesn't have a national security force. it's police is weak. there is no national army here. and the country is essentially,

to put it for want of a better word, a lawless place where large militias like this one has abducted the prime minister, have the writ to do what they will and what we have witnessed in the early hours of today is perhaps one of the worst examples of that so far, taking the prime minister, john. >> nic, in the wild west there in tripoli, appreciate it. abu anas al libi captured last week on the streets of tripoli is still held on a ship in the mediterranean. he has not been read his miranda rights yet. u.s. officials say he is being interrogated by a special team of agents from the california a pentagon and the fbi. anything he tells them cannot be used in court. once al libi is turned over to the justice department, he will be read his miranda rights and evidence gathering will begin

for a criminal prosecution. 12 minutes past the hour here. coming up? >> when we buried kendrick, we thought we were burying kendrick, not half a kendrick. >> incredible and shocking twist in a the mysterious death of a teenager found dead inside his high school. kidnapped by the mother who murdered her mother and brother, hanna anderson talks about how her life was threatened in a dangerous game. that is coming up next.

welcome back to "early start." 15 minutes past the hour. this morning it's another shocking twist in the case of a georgia teenager found dead in a high school gym. his family insists kendrick johnson was murdered and an intpt autopsy has now agreed. but police in georgia are refusing to open their investigation into what they call an accident. as victor blackwell reports johnson's family is dealing with the horror of what happened to their son's body before he was burie buried. >> reporter: the second time jacqueline johnson cried near the grave of her son. the first time he was being put into the ground and the second time, he was pulled out of it. in june, kendrick's body was sent to florida.

the johnson's hired a he died as a result of a blow to the neck and not accidental asphyxia. but what dr. anderson did not find shocked them. >> we got the body for the second autopsy, that organs, the heart, lungs, et cetera, were not withed bot. >> reporter: the brain? >> the brain, they were all absent. >> reporter: every organ from the top of kendrick's head to his pelvis, gone, and his family had no idea. >> we have been let down again and when we buried kendrick, we thought we were burying kendrick, not half a kendrick. >> i'm not sure at this point who did not return the organs to the body but i know when we got the body, the organs were not

there. >> reporter: cnn contacted the two entities that had custody of kendrick's body and access to his organs. the georgia bureau of investigation, which conducted the first autopsy in january, and harrington funeral home, which the johnson's chose to embalm and prepare kendrick's body days later. the organs were record to be placed in johnson's body. the body was closed and then the body was released to the funeral home. state investigators say it's their normal practice, but what happened after his body arrived at the funeral home was anything but normal. what was in the place of the organs? >> newspaper. >> reporter: newspaper? dr. anderson showed me the pictures of kendrick's body he had taken during the second autopsy. >> jcpenney ad, yes. >> they stuck newspaper in him

like he was a garbage can inside his body. it's unbelievable. >> i'd imagine that that is a different kind of pain. >> yes. >> reporter: why do you think there would be newspapers stuffed in your child? >> i never heard of that before. never. >> reporter: neither had the founder of a national embalm be academy contacted by cnn. nor had the president of the national association of medical examiners who told cnn he's never heard of this practice. why would the funeral home discard his organs and stuff them with newspaper? >> the question is why didn't he tell us? >> reporter: so what exactly did the hairington funeral home do with kendrick's organs and why was he stuffed with newspaper? we went to their office and their response to, was, "no comment." but harrington funeral homeowner denied he received kendrick's

organs. he writes in part the following. it's another disappointing answer for parents determined to know what happened to their son before and now after his death. and they admit they're struggling. >> unbearable, just about. only thing that wakes you up in the morning is just to keep pushing. >> reporter: victor blackwell, cnn, valdosta, georgia. >> we are learning more and more details about that story and gets more unbelievable. >> i feel awful what that family is going through. a kidnapped california teen is revealing frightening new details about her kidnapping. the 16-year-old tells nbc that james dimaggio handcuffed her and bound her feet.

authorities killed dimaggio. >> the former army private who leaked thousands of documents to wikileaks is reportedly not pleased with people's impression of him. bradley manning who know goes by chelsea tells the guardian newspaper the leak was for more transparency and not an effort to influence the opinions of war. it is manning's comments since august since he was was sentenced to military custody. ahead of the release of the film "the fifth estate." it is about wikileaks and in his letter, asange. cumberland had to meet with assange before the movie.

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analyst saying more consumers are shifting from pcs to tablets, no surprise, right? a lackluster demand from students returning to school. another sign of things to come and believe it or not not far off, soon you'll be able to get cash out of an atm without use a debit card. financial services giant fsi says it will essentially be like using a remote control for the atm so you'll be able to logon to a mobile app and select the amount of money that you want and receive it in seconds from an atm. no debit card is necessary. all you need is your phone and, of course, you need some cash in the account. >> there is the trick right there! >> you need the money and forget about the fries. let's talk about books. would you like a book with that? starting november 1st, mcdonald's happy meals will include books. there will be four original children's books carrying a nutritional message. they say it is the beginning of a massive children's book push

and happened to last for several years. the exchange looks to distribute 20 million books in the first two-week promotion window. one example is called goat who ate everything. it's about a goat who has a big aptitude and struggled to eat well but eventually learns to eat smart. >> you're not buying it? >> the kids will look at that and say what is that? a book? >> i think it's an ereader. my daughter doesn't own any books? >> really? >> no. i think it's a great idea for parents to sit with their kids and read books but i think the times are changing. >> they get the happy meanwhile the kids open it and see the book and no matter what is in it, they will play with it and check it out. >> it's only for two weeks and then the toys come back. >> you're going to mcdonald's, aren't you, with your kids? >> a good reason to get a book. it's for them. not for me. the government shutdown

furloughing thousands and closing parks and gutting agencies designed to keep us safe. but what is still open for business may actually surprise you. it's coming up next.

the electricity, the hot water, the towels, they are not provided by gym fairies. they are provided by taxpayers. >> gym fairies now in the mix there. paychecks for thousands of furloughed workers or a private gym for congress. guess which one has been deemed essential during the government shutdown? panic within the office. members of my staff either crawling on the floor or running off to his office telling people to get away from the windows. >> a deadly attack shoot-out at a courthouse. this time in west virginia. why police had to turn guns on one of their own. >> it was so tiny. it was just that my leg swelled up so big. >> silent killer lurking in the coastal waters of florida.

one woman sharing her miraculous recovery. >> incredible. welcome back to "early start." i'm zoraida sambolin. >> i'm john berman. 31 minutes past the hour right now. this morning we may be the slightest bit closer to holding off a default that could have led to economic catastrophe. cnn has learned that a proposal is being put together to raise the debt ceiling on a temporary basis the increase is only four to six weeks and only designed to open the door to negotiations to a more permanent solution. 18 top republicans go to the white house meet with the president. but it looks like the government, though, is likely to remain shut down, at least for now. >> our message in the house has been pretty clear, we want to reopen our government and provide fairness to all

americans under the president's health care law. >> i'm happy to negotiate on anything and have been willing to do so for the last year. what i've simply said is that there's no reason to have to negotiate with the government shutdown or with the prospect that we don't pay our bills. >> one thing that will now be paid, military death benefits. not by the government, though. a private charity has stepped in to restore the funds froze by the government shutdown. defense secretary chuck hagel announcing the agreement with fisher house. the families of four soldiers killed in afghanistan last weekend were forced to pay their own way to dover air base to meet the remains of their loved ones. fisher house will be reimbursed when the government reopens, if the government reopens. we are ten days into the shutdown now. aaron mcpike looks at the wide ranging impact of having the flow of government services shut off.

>> reporter: is this what it's come to? >> it's like a golf course around here. i've got over a hundred hours logged in eight days. >> reporter: with the national mall shut down, charleston, south carolina, resident, chris cox trekked up to washington to clean it up himself. >> i bought the blower and lawn mower and started cutting the grass this morning. at the end of the day, the citizens are the stewards of the memorials. >> i'm sorry the park is closed today. >> reporter: inside grand canyon national park, another problem. the park is closed and seasonal workers without pay are running out of money to buy food. local food banks are pitching in to help out. >> thousands of people inside the park without food or pay, this great nation we are having have charities deliver food to people who are trapped in the grand canyon. >> reporter: and back on capitol

hill, the gym where members of congress can work out? open for business. it was deemed essential for the members who voted to shut down the rest of the government. >> the electricity, the hot water, the towels, they are not provided by gym fairies! they are provided by taxpayers. >> reporter: though, some want to hold on to their exercise routine find it ironic to shut down the gym because it's where we come and talk about building relationships. there is no towel service. >> reporter: meanwhile, federal workers are getting whip lashed who is in and who is out on the essential list. tens of thousands have applied for temporary unemployment insurance. the intelligence community which furloughed 70% of its staff last week decided some cia staff are necessary after all. those who carry out, quote, core missions like foreign intelligence and covert actions.

but over at the nuclear regulatory commission, the money ran dry, and today, they furloughed thousands with congress yet to guarantee they will be paid for the missed work. >> take care. >> reporter: erin mcpike, cnn, washington. the libyan prime minister has been detained by members of a militia group who apparently stormed the hotel in tripoli where he lives. we understand from our reporter there nic robertson it was about 150 armed gunman. they say he has been arrested for crimes against the conduct. the militants say he is in good condition but the government says they are working to try to understand the situation and hopefully get him freed. the justice minister there calls this a kidnapping. the big question you talked to nic earlier about who is running the country now. >> he says a council of minister

don't know what is going on and try to figure out the situation. a tremendous amount of chaos in libya and further unsettle the situation. the word from militia he is in good condition, how meaningful is that? if you're seized by 150 gunmen. >> who storm a hotel room. at first we were calling this a kidnapping. no, they say he has been detained and crimes that are leveled against him. this is a tenuous situation. we have nic robertson who is covering this story carefully for us and we will bring you an update as soon as we get it. a gun battle in west virginia ending in the death of a former police officer. officials say the former officer armed with an assault rifle opened fire on a federal courthouse. he served on the force for 20 years and on wednesday he was killed by some of his own. >> responding officers engaged the gunman who was continuing to discharge that firearm. that person has incapacitated by

the gunfire from a wheeling police officer, as well as a court security officer who responded from across the street at the federal building. >> witnesses say bacard was firing round. two officers were treated for minor injuries. still no word on the motive. the jurors who decided to be in the jury of james holmes expect the process to take eight months. three months for jury selection and another five for the trial. the judge's estimate included an order released wednesday. jury selection is expected to begin in february. holmes has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the 2012 rampage which killed 12 people and wounded dozens of others. to the latest in the teen rap case out of steubenville, ohio. a school technology indicted by a special garage pleaded not guilty to charges of tampering with obstructing justice and

providing false system. william rhineman is out on bond. the indictment claims he tampered with evidence where two high school football players raped a 16-year-old girl. prosecutors are planning to file a motion to remove the judge from aaron hernandez's case but not given a reason why. hernandez was called to the stand during a pretrial hearing on wednesday. the judge asking him about a potential conflict of interest. one of the lawyers works with the wife of one of the prosecutors. hernandez said he did not have a problem with that. a federal judge is sed to sentence kilpatrick on tax evasion among other charges. they want a minimum hall saying shal was for sale while he was in office and they want him to

pay back more than $10 million in profits he made steering city contracts to a friend. the father of a 9-year-old man who got past airport security and stowed away on a flight from minneapolis to las vegas is begging for help. the father who hid his face and not making his identity known told reporters that he has had issues with his son for years. one time, police returned him home only to threaten the father if he disciplined the boy. >> if i see you hit your son, we going to have to lock you up. i said, sir, what can i do? i've been asking for help. there's no one helping me. i'm in what you call a double jeopardy. if i whop, my son, i get locked up. if i let my son keep on doing what he is doing, i get in trouble. somebody please help! please! >> a plea there. the 9-year-old has a long history of run-ins with

authorities and recordly stealing a delivery truck and crashing it into a police car. even sneaking into a water park and pretending to be part of a large family. remind you this boy is 9 years old. last week, he was suspended from school for fighting. move on now. let's take a look at our weather this morning with chad myers. >> reporter: a very good early morning to you. new york city metro is rainy and cold and wind all day long and could see delays there. and also into philadelphia the low clouds from the coastline storms and albuquerque a couple of wind events out there. rain across the east coast. kind of pushing moisture back all the way from philadelphia right on down even into virginia. and then severe storms could be some strong weather that plaine may have to fly around to the texas panhandle. the thunderstorms popping up like a spring day out there. 79 kansas city and 82 memphis today. a cold day in the northeast.

it just doesn't warm up. 60 new york and d.c. with the wind' cold, it will feel much colder than 60 out there today. kind of a recap for you. new york city metros some afternoon rain. d.c. metros low louder and also with philadelphia and thunderstorms in denver. >> our thanks to chad for that. i say it's hip hip hooray for this woman. she is a fighter. >> imagine learning to walk again at age 84. just a few months ago, margaret freewald was clinging to life and diagnosed with a potentially flesh eat iing bacteria. the florida residents kept on fighting each after doctors amputated her leg. >> only when i woke up and they told me they took my leg. it really didn't bother me that much because i was thankful that i was alive. i'm going to go right back honel and do the things i've always done. we are going on vacation.

we're going to the keys! >> we are going to the keys! >> good for her. 84 years old. she says she remembers very little about her hospitalization. her family calls her recovery nothing short of a miracle. nine people have died from the bacteria just this year alone. but she is up and walking. >> the smile on her face, the attitude probably had a lot to do with her recovery, right? >> i'm sure it did. coming up. >> i don't want to talk about it. sometimes i'm very removed from the situation it seems like, but when i see the photograph and other photos of victims or people that i knew, that's when i realize, i was there. >> inside a kenyan mall when terrorists began to kill. it is an emotional story of survival headed your way next. 1111 ]

all different angles. we did think it was wednesday at one point today. >> i did. if you follow me on twitter orbook, i apologize for that. it is thursday morning but apparently for some reason, i thought it was wednesday. i'm a little sleep deprived so i'm sorry. happy thursday! >> welcome back to "early start." it is time for prime time pop. first up, erin burnett on the shutdown shame. >> she was talking to virginia senator tim kaine in the military death benefits now being restored. >> these benefits are benefits that should be paid but the

bigger picture is this, that i do think the white house is right that you can't let people shut down the whole government and then selectively decide what they want to reopen. if do you, that you're going to have a shutdown every year. people who can't get what they want who refuse a budget negotiation will shut the entire government down and they will decide who to let up off the mat and that is most way to the run the government. if they finally come to a compromise after six and a half months, of course, we want to sit down and do it but there is no reason to keep all of these people laid off. i met with a bunch of employees and private contractors in my office today. they are all laid off and worried about their paychecks. why would we keep them laid off? they can come back to work and we can negotiate. >> on ac 360, this was a gripping interview with a survivor of the deadly terror attack in nairobi that left 67 people dead.

american elaine dang was injured in the attack. she described what happened next. >> i just thought, okay, my next thing to do right now is just pretend that i'm dead. and so i just laid and i made it a point to lay towards where the shooting was happening because i still wanted, one, to have eyesight and vision to see what is happening and, two, i didn't. to be shot in my back. i didn't want to be paralyzed if i needed to run. >> when you see that photo taken of you now, what do you think? >> i go back and forth between like was i really there? or -- because when i talk about it, i talk about it like sometimes like i'm very removed from the situation but when i see the photograph and other photos of victims or people that i knew, that's with when i realized i was there. so it actually puts me back, which i actually think at this point is a good thing because i

think removing myself too much this early is probably not healthy for my mind, but that's how i've been coping with it is to actually make it seem like it's removed from me. >> and piers morgan spoke with the widow of charles roberts who shot ten ammish school children in 2006. maria describes the incredible act of forgiveness that followed. >> i saw some amish men walking down the street. i knew they were coming to my house. i said, what do you do? do i talk to them? i'm sure they are coming here. my dad said, you go inside and i will talk to them. he knew them. they were from our community. as he met them on the drive, i continued to watch from the window. although i couldn't hear the words they spoke, i saw the embrace. you know, i saw them put their arms around my dad and put their hands on his shoulder and everything about their

gentleness conconveyed the words that i couldn't hear. >> an amazing thing to happen, but indicative of the protective blanket that the amish community put around you. >> absolutely. >> at a time when your husband had decimated a large number of that community. >> yes. absolutely. when my dad came back in, we all were waiting to hear from him what they said and he collected his thoughts. i knew that it had been a deeply moving time for him as well. he said that they had forgiven charlie and that they were extending grace and love to your family. they were concerned about me and concerned about our children. >> amazing. >> yes. that was riveting. i was watching it this morning. just incredible. coming up next for us, the cardinals taking on the pirates for the right to play in the national league championship series. who goes on? who goes home? andy scholes with the game time drama is coming up next in "the bleacher report." ordinary rubs don't always work on my arthritis.

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i'm very sad now. after 20 straight losing seasons, the pittsburgh pirates finally made it back to the playoffs but their magical run came to an end last night with a loss to the cardinals. i'm devastated. >> apologies to the tens of people watching us from st. louis right now. everyone was rooting for the pirates, i have to say. andy joins us with "the bleacher report." tirts looking to win their first postseason series since 1979 last night but unfortunately for them, they ran cardinals ace adam wainwright in the decisive game five. david freese got things started for cards with a two-run home run in the second inning and that is all wainwright would need. he threw a complete game giving up only one run. cardinals win 6-1. they advance to the national league championship series and take on the dodgers. we have another winner take all game five tonight.

tigers and a's battle it out for the right to play the red sox in the alcs. first pitch is 8:00 eastern on tbs. washington redskins daniel snyder is doubling down on the commitment not to change the name of his team after receiving negative publicity lately. he sent a letter saying he wants to preserve the team's heritage by keeping the controversial redskins game and comes day after president obama said he would consider changing the name. despite the government shutdown the air force academy will i hitting their field tonight for the game. all of air force's athletic teams can play immediately. the games will be funded with nongovernment money and no official announcement made for saturday's game between army and eastern michigan and navy and duke but they are scheduled to play the games as scheduled. hopefully this whole government shutdown thing will go away and

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i'm shocked. 58 minutes past the hour. take a look what is trending this morning. the jonas brothers are calling off their planned fall tour amid what is being called a deep rift between these three boys! they were slated to lanch the tour tomorrow in pennsylvania but their spokesman says the brothers are in the midst of a big disagreement over their music direction. that despite their work together on a planned fifth studio album and sold-out concert tours. what is going on with the boys? >> yeah. what is going on with the boys? they say they scrapped the tour over creative differences. the jerk in me wants to know i didn't know they were creative! so how could they have differences? we don't know what is happening with the jonas brothers here.

if you have any information, please tweet us because this is of grave concern to us! she is zoraida sambolin. i'm john berman. find us #earlystart. what is going on with the jonas brothers? what is our world coming to? "early start" continues right now. a real simple solution. the speaker of the house could solve this today. >> our message in the house has been pretty clear. we want to reopen our government and provide fairness to all americans under the president's health care law. this morning, there are small, tiny signs of progress, maybe, that might at least keep the country from defaulting on its debt. money flowing to military families whose loved ones made the ultimate sacrifice.

why a private foundation had to step in to add to this injustice. >> that is shameful. breaking news overnight. libya's prime minister taken from a hotel by an armed militia. we are live with the latest on these developments. good morning. happy you're with us. i'm zoraida sambolin. >> i'm john berman. it is thursday, october 10th, 5:00 a.m. in the east. we may have good news or progress in washington where cnn that learned top republican leaders in the house are now working on a proposal to raise the debt ceiling at least temporarily. perhaps for four to six weeks. opening the door to negotiations on a longer term solution. 18 top republicans are set to visit the white house today to meet with the president but it doesn't appear, at least at this hour, that the government shutdown is coming to an end. the latest from senior white house correspondent brianna keilar. >> reporter: finally, they are

talking. house democrats met the president at the white house last night. >> we just had a very positive meeting with the president of the united states. >> reporter: president obama's message, he is open to a short-term deal to increase the debt ceiling for six weeks, according to a lawmaker in the meeting. republicans are warming to the idea of a shorter deal, followed by negotiations with the president on reducing the debt and deficit. house budget committee chairman paul ryan penned an op-ed in "wall street journal" that did not mention gop demands to delay or fund obama care, but tea-backed party republicans still want that fight after a brief debt ceiling increase and arguing against ending the government shutdown. >> i would do a debt ceiling for six weeks so the president would negotiate with john boehner and keep the fight on the continued resolution and obama care. >> reporter: in interviews with local news stations, president obama was asked to explain his own vote against raising the

debt ceiling in 2006. >> i voted against a debt ceiling increase at the time because i had some concerns about what president bush was doing. >> reporter: specifically, the bush tax cuts. and he argued it's okay for certain republicans to protest policies with a no vote, but he said there must be a vote. >> there should never be a proposition where the speaker of the house is not willing to put those votes to the floor right now. >> reporter: congress isn't faring well in this budget fight. a new gallup poll shows republicans with a 28% favorable rate, down ten points since last month, the lowest for any party since 1992. democrats slid four points to 43%. brianna keilar, cnn, washington. one issue that has been solved is paying the military families the money they earn to cover the funerals of those

killed in war. this is a unique arrangement from a private foundation. barbara starr has more about this. >> reporter: at dover air force base, cody patterson came home to his family as defense secretary chuck hagel paid his respects. unbearable grief for families made much worse because the government shutdown left them without death benefits. marine lance corporal michael collins remains were brought monday to dover. his mother shannon says he was a great marine. >> he became a marine to become somebody and he became a great marine. >> reporter: the white house wednesday promised a quick fix to a tragedy that had become a pr disaster. the president told wrc-tv, he acted as soon as he learned of the problem. >> when i heard about this story, i toll the department defense within our administrative powers we should be able to get that fixed. >> reporter: as hagel stood on the tarmac top aids were quickly

working on a solution. the pentagon signed a contract with fisher foundation, a private foundation that helps war wounded. fisher house will pay the families's bills and 100,000 dollar death benefit. the government will pay it back when the shutdown ends. but for veterans, a looming disaster of the shutdown continues much longer. more than 3 million received disability checks that may not come on november 1st. many new veterans from iraq and afghanistan still waiting to approved for disability payments have to keep waiting. >> 1,400 veterans today are not receiving decisions on their disability compensation claims. >> reporter: if the mess in washington isn't solved, the v.a. will not be able to pay $6 billion due to more than 5 million people expecting checks, including veterans, their surviving spouses, and children, on november 1st. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. treasury secretary jack lew

is headed to capitol hill this morning and he will testify before the senate finance committee in less than four hours about the need to raise the nation's debt limit the next seven days. lew has been warning congress they will not have enough money to pay its bills after october 17th. heavily armed rebels tag prime minister minister ali ziedan in libya. the government saying he has been kidnapped. for the latest, let's go to libya and senior international correspondent nic robertson. what can you tell us, nic? >> reporter: still very much a developing situation here. the government has been meeting. the council ministers have been meeting and we are expecting statements from various government ministers within the hour. not clear what they will say. the indications are that everyone is coming out against

this armed militia that took the prime minister this morning. about a hundred to 150 heavily armed militia men turned up in his hotel where he lives in the center at tripoli here, a heavily secured hotel, went into the hotel and abducted him. no shots fired, we're told, but they say they have done it on the pretext, on a legal pretext. the government, the justice minister saying that is absolutely rubbish, that no one has issued an arrested warrant for the prime minister. it appears in most people's minds here it seems to be linked to the u.s. arrest of al qaeda suspect here over the weekend. he was suspected and involved in the bombings in 1998 in tanzania. this is an ongoing and fluid situation. indications are, it may, i stress may come to an end soon but it is fluid and ongoing. >> in the meantime, i know you were chatting with us earlier about this. the question is what is happening with the government

there? who is running things? >> reporter: this is really an open question. this militia that took the prime minister is one that is sanctioned by the government which raises the question in people's mind what is the government doing? really effectively taking control and held the country's development to hostage since the overthrow of "march gadhafi two years ago. hours before this event took place, this kidnapping took place, mitt with the prime minister as well. he seemed very relaxed. this was four hours before he was kidnapped. the justice minister told me that libya is close to being a failed state and he was very worried about the effect of the arrest of abu anas al libi over the weekend. government ministers are concerned that groups here are

trying to take advantage of the situation and it seems what is happening at the moment. >> nic robertson is live for us. thank you. 150 calling that an arrest. 150 armed militia storming the hotel. sounds like a kidnapping. >> talk about turmoil in the region there with that happening in libya, the u.s. also withdrawing some of its funding or cutting off some of its funding to egypt right now. severe foreign policy issues for the government as well. >> we will have an update perhaps what this is all about. five days after his arrest in tripoli, al qaeda terror suspect abu anas al libi has not been read his miranda rights. u.s. officials say he is being interrogated by a special team of agents from the cia and the pentagon and the fbi. anything he tells them cannot be used in court. once al libi is turned over to the justice department, he will be read his miranda rights and the criminal prosecution will begin. back here at home. the likely new head of the federal reserve insisting there

is still work to be done in restoring this country's economy. saying it is up to policymakers to safeguard the financial system and ensure that everyone has the opportunity to build a better life. >> the mandate of the federal reserve is to serve all of the american people and too many americans still can't find a job and worry how they will pay their bills and provide for their families. the federal reserve can help if it does its job effectively. >> yellen is believed to be likely to continue the central bank stimulus policies and if confirmed by the senate she would be the first woman to head up the fed. other news. dozens of people in orlando, the roller coaster they were on stalled the hollywood rip ride

rocket stalled. 140 feet above ground and took two hours to get everyone off. park officials say they have had similar incidents before and they will keep the ride closed until they federal government out what happened. >> that might be a good idea. >> i would say so. 10 minutes after the hour here. coming up, kidnapped by the man who murdered her mother and brother, hannah anderson reveals how her life was threatened in a dangerous game. a tropical storm weekend expected for part of the country. >> you're smiling about that? >> indra petersons will break it all down for us! it is time for your morning ride. tweet us. tweet you now and tweet us to something with your own originally. send us a rhyme about anything. send it to us to the address on your screen. we will read the very best ones on the tv in our next half hour. jc: lunch at that one restaurant we all like?

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welcome back. 14 minutes past the hour. a kidnapped california teenager is sharing startling new details about her ordeal. hannah anderson says the family friend would abducted her tried to make her play russian roulette. she tells nbc james dimaggio handcuffed her and bound her feet and anderson says dimaggio killed her mother and brother before taking her to idaho. a week later, the fbi tracked them down and shooting and killing him. wayne spurling is facing child abuse charges. the boys ages 2 to 6 were littered with human and animal fec feces. the children are not toilet trained and now in state custody. seven bikers are under arrest for their alleged role in

the attack on the suv driver. the whole thing was caught on camera. one of them is a new york city police officer who prosecutors say was an active participant in the attack. his attorney knits he hit the car's back window but say it was broken already. the officer is free on bail right now. >> bradley manning is not happy with what people think of him. he tells "the guardian" newspaper the leak was motivated for a desire for more transparency and not an effort to influence people's opinion of wars. he know goes by chelsea since august when he was sentenced to 35 years in military custody. julian assange is not happy how he is portrayed in gnaw film. he wrote a letter to the actor calling the movie the fifth estate distorted and asking the actor to reconsider.

sherlock holmes he also played. he is a really good actor is all i can think about there. let us get a check of the thursday weather. indra petersons is with that. >> i'm nervous already and i don't want to tell you how bad it is since i know you guys don't like rain. you can see where the storm is and here is what you have to remember. it is going to linger. this guy is going to take its time. right now we are seeing rain around d.c. and phil and still south of new york. as low forms off the coastline rain is not the only concern and talk about wind as well. high pressure, winds go clockwise on a high and on a low counterclockwise and put them close together and get strong winds in between and talking about gusts as high as 45 miles per hour. so cool rainy and the pattern continues to slowly make its way even on saturday you can see

it's slow moving. we are still going to be dealing with this same pattern. as far as how much rain? look at this. you're talking about large amounts of rain. 3 to 5 inches of rain thanks to the moisture kind of fueling off the coastline. that is what happens every time it goes parallel to the coast. you get these slow heavy bands of rain. unfortunately that is the story and we talked about the wind in the mix as well. you want to see a day-by-day, here is what it looks like on thursday. >> tomorrow, bad again? >> you're right. on the money, guys. saturday, still there. there you go. that is how you can plan your weekend. below normal temperatures because we top it off with even more horrible news. cool, windy and rainy. >> at least you deliver it with a smile. appreciate that. most cities you keep your dog on a leash which is a no-brainer but what about your cat? meet pooh bear. his back legs don't work so his owner got him a device so he can walk. she likes to take the cat to a

park and chicago her chihuahua along also. now she is cited for not happening the animals on leashes, including the disabled cat. >> she had been warned it was not legal to do that. basically, we have someone not getting the fact that you have to be in control of your animal when it's off your property. >> that was my very first knowledge that cats could not be allowed off the leash. i wouldn't each know where to put the leash, to be quite honest. >> police say the owner has a history of letting her dog run loose in public areas and this is an issue of public safety. >> i say that cat should be exempt. follow the rules for the dog but the cat? the cat should be exempt, folks. 19 minutes past the hour. coming up, new optimism. seriously? that is a big word we are using this morning. the washington gridlock could be coming to an end, maybe? and that has the markets happy. that is always good news.

"money time" is coming up next. we are following breaking news from libya. developing this morning, more than 150 armed gunmen taking libya's prime minister from a hotel in tripoli. we will have the latest on that report. some officials in libya calling it a kidnapping. it's coming up next. howdy partner. you're not linda. i'm filling in for officer owens. she used double miles from her capital one venture card to take an early vacation. buckle up. let's go do cop stuff. [ siren chirps ] license and venture card, ma'am.

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the tricks in his bag and october 17th one week is the day when the government won't have enough cash to pay all of its bills. it's going to be interesting to see if he hints at any wiggle room some are calling the x-state. one part of the market is showing stress and it's short-term treasuries. the t-bills are used by companies and banks to stash cash in the short-term basis and the rates on bills due for redemption around the middle of the month have spiked five-year highs. a sign that lenders are nervous. the chart you're seeing there might not look like much to you but people are just poring over this chart because they are worried it's showing the cracks in the financial system. headlines wednesday that fidelity was dumping all of its u.s. treasury bonds and bills due in late october and early november seem to send a chill through the credit markets and there was word the decision not to pull back on the federal

reserve's $85 billion a month in bond purchases was very close. the minutes from the last federal reserve meeting showing the deciding factor was concern at the time over a government shutdown and debt ceiling battle shows you the economists know how to forecast, right? that is something the second in command at the fed and president obama's new pick for fed chairman must have been closely involved in there is janet yell yellen. she will have her work cut out for her when she starts early next year. just so much going on that is counterproductive right now for our 401(k)s and for the economic recovery and it's all manufactured in washington and i just -- i don't mean to sound exasperated but even a little tiny deal like this, the fact the -- dow futures are up in something that seems little a little progress shows you what a bad shot we are in. >> counterproductive is a nice way to do it. they are screwing with our money. >> they really are. i talk to a lot of people who

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we have breaking news overnight. libya's prime minister kidnapped by gunmen and now relieved. we are live with these latest developments. >> just strange. executives have been warning the administration bluntly that this whole system is not ready for primer time. >> obama care's rocky roll jo but how much did the white house know about the problems plaguing the sign-up process for the new health care law? they opened the back doors and said, oh, you have a baby! i said, yep, we do! >> can you imagine that? emergency delivery inside the ambulance. why one woman and her husband ended up delivering their own child. you want to stay tuned for that story. >> boy, do you ever. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman.

>> i'm zoraida sambolin. 31 minutes past the hour. this is a strange morning we have been having in libya. getting word now the prime minister has now been relieved. hours after being taken from a tripoli hotel by members of a militia group, dozens and dozen of them who stormed this hotel overnight and walked out with the prime minister. the government there called it a kidnapping. now they are saying he has been relieved. our senior international correspondent nic robertson is live in tripoli this morning. he has been reporting all of the twists and turns in this story. nic, what is the latest? >> reporter: well, the prime minister now on his way to government offices we are told, john. he was held about eight hours. there have been many, many twists and turns. claims he had been arrested for actions against the interests of the state. claims that there were -- there was no arrest warrant issued follow. what all of this shows right now is that libya is in a very

precarious stability and it is is not guaranteed. there are many peer linking the kidnapping of the prime minister with the arrest of abu anas al libi, the al qaeda terrorist over the weekend suspected in his involvement in the 1998 attack on u.s. embassies on kenya and tanzania. what appears to have happened is the group that took the prime minister has come under huge and intense pressure, is what sources have been telling me, huge and intense pressure to release him. the group that took control of him, guess what? they are a government sanctioned militia. the government here does not have a national army, does not have a strong national police service. it is militias, independent ma liberias a that are the rule of law here. one of them this morning took the prime minister. they just relieved him. john? >> how on earth does this say about the prospects for this nation if the prime minister can

just be kidnapped willy-nilly held for a few hours and then relieved? how on earth can he possible govern in the coming days and weeks? >> reporter: this is one of the richest country and it has huge oil resources. there are many ma liberias a here and some are islamic ma liberias and some tied to al qaeda. they threaten the security of europe. that is the analysis of security experts. and this nation is very, very close to europe. it's on the edge of europe. how does this speak to how the prime minister can rule a country in the coming weeks and days? that isn't clear. but what is clear when, i interviewed the justice minister last night in the hotel where the prime minister was kidnapped, i saw the prime minister at that time as well last night, the justice minister told me that the country he felt was close, close, he said, to becoming a failed state. he said he hoped the government could turn it around.

but its lack of security, inability to build national security structures since overthrowing moammar gadhafi, the dictator two years ago is taking this country down at the moment and what the justice minister told me last night. >> nic robertson, we are lucky to have you on the scene in tripoli. good news the prime minister is relieved but deeply troubling for the prospects of that nation he could be kidnapped and held for hours at gun point. >> the lack of security, right? for things like this to continue to happen. this morning, it could be, it just could be the beginning of a way out for the politicians in congress who seem so unwilling to talk just a few days ago. cnn has learned from several house republican members and sources close to house leadership that a proposal is being put together to raise the debt ceiling. only on a temporary basis. the increase would only be four to six weeks and only designed to open the door to negotiations

on a more permanent solution. the government at least for now, would remain partially shut down. but today 18 top house republicans go to the white house to meet with president obama. that a day after senior democrats met with the president to discuss a way forward. of course, publicly, the rhetoric remains the same. >> it has been clear we want to reopen our government and provide fairness to all americans under the president's health care law. >> i'm happy to negotiate on anything. and have been willing to do so for the last year. what i've simply said is that there's in reason to have to negotiate with the government shutdown or the prospect we don't pay our bills. >> this is news for us. the families of fallen u.s. soldiers will not be without military death benefits but not because of the government. the fisher house charity has agreed to pay benefits.

the government cannot due to the shutdown. this comes as four soldiers arrived in dover air force base after being killed in afghanistan. chuck hagel was a on hand. the families were forced to pay their own way to the service. >> good for you, fisher house, for stepping up. little signs of abating ten days into the rollout of obama care. we know many have been going to the site trying to logon, but progress, another issue entirely. there are new details this morning on whether this whole thing could actually have been avoided. here is cnn's brian todd. >> reporter: luke chung operates a database company in northern virginia. he's an expert on heavily trafficked web sites but even he is frustrated navigating health care.gov. >> this is interesting. >> reporter: what do you got? >> i don't know what i have.

i just tried to log into my account that i have already established. >> reporter: and? >> and it says unexpected error. >> reporter: since the rollout last week chung is only trying to get quote on prices and not even to enroll. error messages, slow connections. and booted out of the system and other problems have exasperated hundreds of thousands. obama administration was aware that it had big problems. one democratic ally of the administration congressman robert andrews, says he spoke to the white house months before the unveiling. >> i discussed with the white house people things they already knew which was undertaking of this size is going to be very complex. >> reporter: andrews believes the white house was on top of the situation. robert lachefski, disagrees. he is a health care consultant. he says many of his clients had meetings with the administration ahead of the rollout. >> insurance executives have been warning the administration bluntly that this whole system is not ready for prime time.

it wasn't going to be ready on october 1 to appropriately enroll people. >> reporter: but he says the white house ignored them. >> the administration didn't seem to understand the seriousness of it. they were blase about it. they continue to assure the industry there weren't going to be any problems. >> reporter: he says they were not about to delay the rollout. the white house insists it listened to insurers and knew about the problems. >> everyone was aware and we told you there would be glitches. >> reporter: what they are not telling us is exactly how many people have enrolled. they say they don't know the precise numbers. luke chung says. >> the data insists. >> the data exists. this i hope it has a database in it tell you everybody who is involved, much less the number of people who are enrolled. >> reporter: white house officials tell us it's more complicated than that. they say they have to collect those numbers from several

different sources and they have to make sure the numbers are accurate so they are sticking a plan to release the number of enrollments to once a month to ensure that accuracy. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to brian. 39 minutes past the hour. how is your thursday weather shaping up? >> badly. >> not good. indra is here with that. >> perfect timing, guys. it's pretty obvious at this point, we have a storm system hanging over the coastline. heavy rain making its way south of new york and it is slow moving. the next several days we will get used to being that and with that look at the rain totals. 3 to 5 inches of rain as we continue to pull moisture off the coastline to if i recall in the area. it's not the only thing. we are still talking about northeasterly winds gusting 45 miles per hour and that staying all weekend long and temperatures below normal. a lot of places seeing temperatures a good five degrees below normal for this time of the year. >> lovely. thank you. atlanta air couple considering themselves very lucky this morning. they had to deliver their own

baby in the back of an ambulance. imagine that. >> no. >> she went into labor early sunday and her husband an emt was at work. she tried to drive herself to the hospital. she drove instead to her husband's station realizing she wouldn't make it. they hopped in the ambulance and he helped her deliver their new son on the way of the hospital. >> i was terrified. my husband kind of went into professional mode and took care of business. when we pulled up and they opened up the doors, oh, you have a baby! we said, yep, we do. >> little owen is going to have quite a story to tell. both mother and owen are doing perfectly there. oh, is he cute shr! >> coming up. >> so tiny. it was just that my leg swelled

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what you got, kate and chris? >> i don't like to get ahead of things but it seems like they may be moving toward a deal in d.c. we will tell you about it coming up. but are they kicking the can down the road? would that be that bad right now? we will have congresswoman michele bachmann here. she may be trying to push republicans to make a deal and we will tell you why. commuters on a crowded train and completely seem to miss a man flashing a gun in front of them, until he shot and killed another man that was getting off the train. apparently the folks on the train were too distracted by who knows what, maybe their phones, maybe their tablets, whatever, to notice him. could this event have been prevented and what really happened there? we will take a a lot of people i. strange, but interesting. thanks so much. coming up, the cardinals taking on the pirates for the

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after 20 straight losing seasons, the pittsburgh pirates melanie made it back to the playoffs! but their run came to an end last night with a loss to the cardinals. >> andy scholes joins us now with more in this morning's bleacher report. we are all depressed around here. >> let's not try to be too depressed. it was a good run. pirates trying to win the first poach series since 1979. but they ran into cardinals ace adam wainwright. david freese got it started with

two-run home run. wainwright only gave up one run and cardinals will take on the dodgers in the national league championship series. tigers and a's battle it out for the right to play the red sox in the alcs. first pitch at 8:00 eastern on tbs. washington redskins daniel snyder is doubling down on the commitment not to change the name of his team after receiving negative publicity lately. he sent a letter to the season ticket holders saying he wants to preserve the team's heritage by keeping the controversial redskins game and comes day after president obama said he would consider changing the name. despite the government shutdown the air force academy will be hitting their field tonight for the game. all of air force's athletic teams can play immediately. the games will be funded with nongovernment money. army and navy to play their games this weekend but still waiting on an official announcement. last undisputed heavyweight

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57 minutes past the hour. welcome back. taking a look at the top cnn trends on the web this morning. the jonas brothers, have you heard? they are calling off their planned fall tour. amid what is being called a deep rift between these three adorable boys. they err slated to launch their tour tomorrow in pennsylvania but the spokesman says the brothers are in a big disagreement over their music direction. that despite their work together on a planned fifth album. "people" magazine are saying it was an argument over the weekend that prompted the tour demise. >> do you wonder what the boys

argue about? maybe things would be better if they assault a foam finger or a wrecking ball! >> do like miley! >> big success for miley cyrus. new projections show her album bangerz is to sell 200 thousa,0 thousand copies this weekend. it looks like she has a hit on her hands and her tongue. every song on the album is in the itunes top 100. miley cyrus, she is winning! right? >> maybe she could talk to the jonas brothers and give them a tip or two. >> i'm sure she would have a lot to talk to the jonas brothers. that is all for "early start." time for "new day" with chris and kate. >> thank you, thank you. i'm saying everything two times today. >> that is okay. it's time for "new day oichl

let". let's give you the top news. both sides inches toward a short-term fix to raise the debt sealing. we are live with the latest. >> breaking news. the prime minister of libya kidnapped from a hotel and suddenly relieved. was it a retaliation for a u.s. raid capturing a wanted terrorist? stranded. trapped a hundred feet in the air. >> your "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. good morning. welcome to "new day," thursday, october 10th, 6:00 in the east. and this has to qualify as progress in the current state of affairs. >> we'll take whatever we can get. >> a potenti