on the debt ceiling on the table. why am i saying it that way in the government shutdown would continue. we will break it all down for you, what may make it happen or not happen in just a moment. >> also coming up, the latest on that shutdown shame, military families not getting death benefits. a charity is now stepping in to help and the president and congress have moved to fix it. that's at least, i guess we can call that a silver lining but there is more pain on the horizon for veterans, especially those injured in combat. more on that, ahead. i want to show you this photo. this, as you're about to see, is a hot air balloon catching on fire. this was part of the balloon festival in albuquerque, new mexico. two passengers aboard are in the hospital this morning. we'll tell you what happened here, coming up. first, let's put this deal on the table. short term, what does that mean, what does it mean if they don't raise the debt limit. it's in the works right now. everybody is getting summoned to the white house today.

first it will be senate democrats arriving this afternoon to discuss what they call a band-aid approach to the debt ceiling crisis. three hours later, at least 18 republicans will go face to face with the president. if the two sides don't do something in seven days, remember, america will be in a situation where they could default on their credit for the first time in history. senior white house correspondent brianna keilar starts us off this morning with more. what's the latest, brianna? >> reporter: actually, president obama invited all of the house republicans here to the white house today, however, leaders in the gop and the house peared it down to just those in leadership and on key committee assignments this comes after the president's meet yesterday with house democrats where he gave the strongest indication that he would accept a short-term extension of the debt creeling if republicans get on board with that. finally, they're talking. house democrats met the president at the white house last night.

>> we just had a very positive meeting with the president of the united states. >> reporter: president obama's message, he's open to a short-term deal to increase the debt ceiling for six weeks. according to a lawmaker in the meeting. republicans are warming to the idea of a shorter deal, followed by negotiations with the president on reducing the debt and deficit. house budget committee chairman paul ryan penned an op-ed in "the wall street journal" that did not even mention gop demands to delay or defund obama care but tea party-backed republicans still want that fight. after a brief debt ceiling increase and are arguing against ending the government shutdown. >> i would do a debt ceiling increase for six weeks so the president can negotiate with john boehner and i would keep fighting on the continuing resolution and obama care. >> reporter: in interviews with local news stations, president obama was asked to explain his own vote against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. >> i voted against a debt ceiling increase at the time

because i have some concerns about what president bush was doing. >> reporter: specifically the bush tax cuts. and he argued it's okay for certain republicans to protest policies with a no vote but he said there must be a vote. >> there should never be a the house is not willing to put those votes to the floor right now. >> reporter: congress isn't faring well in this budget fight. a new gallup polls shows it's down 10 points since last month, the lowest for any party since 1992. democrats slid 4 points to 43%. white house officials say that president obama was hoping to make his case to all republicans, including those who he blamed for holding up the debt ceiling and for shutting down the government. kate, republican leaders said they want to negotiate and they didn't think they could do that with so many people in the room. you can imagine the kind of

drama we might have seen if tea party backed republicans were in the shame room having a discussion. >> you're absolutely right. it's not going to happen this time. thanks for starting us off. a quick note, we just got an e-mail from christine romans that said bond markets are up sharply, obviously reacting favorably to the whiff of a deal. one of the great injustices of the shutdown has been righted, just not by the government. a charity with a history of helping troops is paying the way for military families burying their loved ones. the group is loaning money for this and other benefits while congress continues to be in their standoff. there could be more trouble brewing for veterans if the impasse isn't resolved soon. barbara starr is back with us from the pentagon this morning. good morning, barbara. >> reporter: good morning, kate. since the government shutdown began, more than two dozen troops have died, some in the

war zone, some here at home. a temporary solution for the families but still a lot of questions about how did it ever get this far. at this air force base, 24-year-old army ranger cody patterson came home to his family. as defense secretary chuck hagel paid his respects, unbearable grief for families made much worse because the government shutdown left them without death benefits. jeremiah michael collins' remains were brought monday to dover. his mother shannon says he was a great marine. >> he became a marine to become somebody. he became a great marine. >> reporter: the white house wednesday compromise -- promised a quick fix to a problem that had become a disaster. the president says he acted as soon as he heard the problem. >> i told the department of defense, within our

administrative powers we should be able to get that fixed. >> reporter: top aides were urgently working on a solution. the pentagon signed a contract with fisher house foundation, a private organization that helps war wounded. fisher house will pay the family's bills and a $100,000 death benefit. the government will pay it back when the shutdown ends. but for veterans, a looming disaster if the shutdown continues much longer. more than 3 million receive disability checks that may not come on november 1st. many new veterans from iraq and afghanistan still waiting to be approved for disability payments will have to keep waiting. >> roughly 1,400 veterans a day are now not receiving decisions on their disability compensation claims. >> reporter: if the mess in washington isn't solved, the v.a. will not be able to pay $6 billion due to more than w5 million people expecting checks. including veterans, their surviving spouses and children

on november 1st. on the death benefits, pentagon officials insist they told congress, they told white house officials that the death benefits would not be paid if the government shut down. some in congress said they didn't get that information and that the pentagon should have been able to fix it right away. chris? >> barbara, thank you for the reporting this morning. breaking news to tell you about from overnight. gunmen releasing libyan prime minister hours after they captured him from a tripoli hotel. the raid over the weekend led to the capture of the one of the fbi's most wanted al qaeda operatives. let's bring in kninic robertson following the developments live in tripoli. what do we know about why they took this man? >> reporter: kidnappers say they took him because he had broken the law, saying that he was trying to harm the nation. he has said since he's been released less than an hour ago,

that the kidnappers tried to force him to quit. he said he wasn't forced to quit. he is still the prime minister. ministers i talked to, the justice minister, other ministers all say they were concerned about just such a failing insecurity here because the united states came in and they say, abducted al libi. this seems to be connected to that arrest over the weekend. >> what is this an indication of? could al qaeda be able to take advantage of this situation in libya going forward? does it show their strength? >> reporter: it's an exclude indication of that. al qaeda, another radical islamic element do make up some of the militias here. libya is one of the most wealthy african nations. it is literally right on the edge of europe and al qaeda's

been trying to set up camp, have set up camps here with the intention of targeting western interests inside europe. add to that, al qaeda here who has been been threatening to kidnap americans in retaliation for that arrest of al libi. >> nic, thank you very much. appreciate you staying on the story for us. clearly a lot of headlines we're watching. let's get straight to michaela for the latest. >> good morning, guys. a car bomb detonating overnight in the sinai peninsula, killing four egyptian soldiers and wounding five others. this following an announcement by the obama administration that a temporary freeze has been placed on some military aid to egypt because of the coup that ousted president mohamed morsi, the u.s. will not deliver some big ticket items to cairo, including $260 million in cash assistance and warplanes.

malala winning the european parliament prize honoring freedom of thought. she's hailed as a brave advocate for education. you might recall malala was shot by taliban militants trying to silence her for supporting education for girls in pakistan. malala is considered a favorite for the nobel peace prize. i want to show you this image, how terrifying, two men in this hot air balloon rushed to the hospital. that balloon exploded into a fireball and plummeted 40 feet to the ground. the accident happening during the albuquerque national balloon festival wednesday. organizers say the two are being treated for burns. police say one of those men had severe burns to his face and chest. much more coming up later in our show. three airline flights having trouble reaching their destinations.

a southwest jet heading from austin to ft. lauderdale diverted to houston. no injuries reported there. a delta flight from atlanta to munich, germany, made an unexpected stop at jfk in new york. an unruly passenger was the reason. and a japan airlines dreamliner went back to tokyo because of concerns over the de-icing system. the amelia earhart memorial bridge connecting kansas to missouri, no more. imploded in a matter of seconds. 200 explosives were used. the span carried cars across the missouri river since the 1930s. a new four-lane bridge has been built to replace it. that demolition had to be delayed ten minutes. crews found people creeping past the safety blockades. never wise when an explosion is imminent. might be obvious but it had to be said. >> maybe not obvious enough for

some. let's get to indra petersons, keeping track of the latest forecast for us this morning. >> morning. i think we need the smarter word of the day. that's our new one for things like that. exactly. let's talk about rain, guys. the system continues to make its way up the coastline. it is going to linger. this will be a very slow-moving system that will affect many of us, the mid-atlantic and the northeast through the weekend. let's remind you, winds go clockwise around a high, counterclockwise around a low. you put them close to each other you'll get strong northeastly winds, gusting 40, 45 miles an hour. cold and rainy, as well as windy. this will be the story again for some time, keeping in mind it's lingering, let's talk about how much rain is expected. you're pulling in the moisture, 3 to 5 inches of rain possible in the mid-atlantic over the next several days. it will be a tough spot. if you want to see it day by day, people trying to make your weekend plans.

of course it stays pretty much almost in the exact same place on saturday. that ill with be a tough spot there. temperaturewise, we know by now that cool air is in place. we'll be below normal in a lot of places. a lot of places 5 to 10 degrees cooler than where we should be. i just rained it out all weekend. >> did you buy a sweater yet? >> i have one or two. getting there. >> some fashion challenges. >> didn't know indra was so willing to punish on the weather. >> now you know. >> rained out the whole weekend. >> be warned. >> had i known i would have adjusted tone sooner. you look great today by the way. >> thank you. >> nice to have you here. >> thanks, indra. coming up on "new day," stranded 140 feet in midair, a dozen people on a roller coaster getting more than they bargained for at universal studios. how did this happen? it's supposed to be a thrill ride but not this thrilling. we'll tell you. a seventh arrest in that beating of an suv driver about i

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welcome back. a frightening ride for a dozen people when a roller coaster malfunctioned at the universal studios theme park in florida. riders were stranded high above orlando for more than two hours last night. this is the latest in a string of stories that raise concerns about amusement park safety. cnn's pamela brown following the story for us. good morning, pamela. >> reporter: good morning to you. a frightening experience, these riders getting way more of a thrill than they bargained for.

what should have been a quick thrill ride turned into a long night of terror. 12 passengers stuck 140 feet in the air. after a technical glitch. those riders sitting in a 90 degree position for nearly 2 1/2 hours at the top of orlando's tallest roller coaster, the hollywood rip ride rocket before safely making it back to the ground. every roller coaster rider's worst nightmare caught on camera wednesday night. this cell phone video shows 12 people suspended 140 feet in the air in the dark of night, trapped on the hollywood rip ride rocket at hollywood orlando university studios. >> this has got to be one of the scare rest things for something to go through. >> reporter: passengers were stuck on a vertical incline for nearly 2 1/2 hours. a position this father and his daughter were relieved to have missed. they rode the coasters minutes before the malfunction. >> they take good care of this

stuff. thank goodness it wasn't us. >> reporter: the coaster came screeching to a halt around 7:00 p.m. due to a technical glitch. >> they're stuck in this position and hopefully they can get the cars in motion and get these people off of this ride. >> reporter: orlando fire rescue crews used an elevator to get to the peak of the dropoff. >> once we got to to a horizontal position, our guys can put the victims in harnesses and were able to walk them off the ride. >> reporter: firefighters began carefully removing the riders, slowly guiding them down the stairs with flashlights to the elevator platform. all 1 thrill seekers finally touched the ground at 9:30. a parks spokesperson saying one female passenger was transported to the hospital for neck and back pain. no other injuries were reported. a universal studio spokesperson telling cnn they're investigating what happened on

the ride before it re-opens. >> scary night for those folks. my goodness. thanks, pamela. >> thank you. a seventh arrest in that violent clash between a group of bikers and a family driving an suv. more information about this motorcyclist facing charges, including a new york city undercover detective. the off-duty officer appeared in court on charges of gang assault. his lawyers say he did nothing wrong. cnn's susan candiotti has more. >> reporter: here's the undercover off-duty veteran new york detective now standing accused of assault. prosecutors described him in detail, including what he was wearing. as matching this video of the defendant next to the suv as it momentarily stops after running over bikers, critically injuring one. he's seen again just before the suv's driver is dragged out of his vehicle and beaten. yet to hear some tell it, these

videos of alexei lein under attack aren't all they seen. >> the video will exonerate our client. >> reporter: that's the video for wojciech. >> they allege he struck the rear portion, hatchback window which has a gaping hole already in it. it's already destroyed. under the law, it's a fatal flaw. you can't break what's already broken. >> reporter: prosecutors say the detective told them different stories. at first, a law enforcement official says the officer implied he was working under cover, not reporting the incident for fear of blowing his cover. then the story allegedly changed

from not seeing the attack to seeing it from a distance. >> this defendant also did nothing to stop it, including not calling 911. besides not even making that phone call, the defendant failed to properly report being present for these events until two days later. >> reporter: braszczok's attorney didn't reveal that. a second off-duty officer questioned was riding with braszczok but was not involved in the attack. yet another civilian biker arrested wednesday night, is accused of using his helmet to pound the suv driver on the ground. the suspect turned himself in and is expected in court today. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. >> this has been so difficult, even with all the go pro and other video they had. imagine if they didn't have it. >> very good point. >> an investigation of this kind, finding the people, coordinating stories. that's what this story seems

like it's dragging. it's moving faster than it might otherwise. >> because of the video they have. >> we take a break. coming up on "new day," more than 200 republicans were invited, only 18 will be showing. but they are the leadership. could they emerge with a deal to raise the debt limit? is that good enough? and a 9-year-old boy slipped past security in minneapolis and on to a flight in las vegas. you know that part of the story. now you'll hear from his father who is desperate and begging for help for his son. new brakes help you stop faster and safer.

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♪ this is our day >> announcer: you're watching "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> welcome back to "new day," thursday, october 10th. coming up in the show, the boy who flew without a ticket to las vegas. as we have been saying here on "new day" from jump, this story is not just about airport security, it's about a family, a family who says they are in trouble. you'll hear from the father this morning. he's talking about how his pleas for help with his son fell on deaf ears until now. and a popular weight loss pill, where the risks could far outweigh the rewards. the government is telling stores to pull it and people to stop taking it. more about that, coming up. first, we bring you up to date on the latest news. cnn has learned that republican house members are getting a proposal to raise the debt ceiling for a few weeks while keeping the government shut down. top gop leaders set to meet with the president today. a house democrat tells cnn the

president would likely agree to a short-term deal to avoid a default. in the meantime, the fisher house foundation will cover death benefits for military families during the shutdown. libyan prime minister ali zeidan kidnapped at dawn by a group of armed rebels but then freed hours later. he issued this tweet, if someone thought that abducting me with the intention of forcing me to submit my resignation, i tell them, i will not redesigsign. the prime minister is in good health following his release. the judge in the aurora, colorado shooting case says the case for james holmes could last three months. he is charged with killing 12 people, wounding 70 others in that movie massacre last year. he has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. that trial is set to begin in

february. the number two of u.s. nuclear forces now relieved of duty. the navy has already suspended vice admiral tim jgiardina. he will drop in rank because of the loss of his command. a man who likes to dress up like elmo from "sesame street" has gotten a year behind bars for trying to blackmail the girl scouts. dan sandler threatened to spread the false rumor that the group was setting up sexual encounters if it didn't pay $2 million. he was busted for stalking a female scout employee. sandler was convicted last year for harassing tourists and shouting anti-semitic slurs in times square all while dressed up in his elmo outfit. not the spirit that elmo intended. >> what does the elmo part have to do with the other part.

>> i don't think it has anything to do with it. >> there's all this other dark stuff. >> right, what's the chance of that? >> icky. >> slim. >> is there such thing as an icky chance. >> there is now. >> put it in the book. hash tag. our political gut check, president obama will meet with a group of house republican leaders at the white house today. there's word a deal over the debt ceiling, even a short-term one could be in sight. is this a way out of all of it for all of them? cnn's chief national correspondent john king is here to break it down for us. so john, the president following the meeting with house democrats yesterday is kind of offering the clearest sign yet that he's open to a short-term extension of raising the debt ceiling. and house republicans giving some indication that they're moving in that direction as well. do you think this is real momentum that we're seeing, finally? >> finally, yes but i would add

a capital "b," but, believe it when you see it, if you will. a big meeting, the republican leadership will go to the white house. perhaps by tonight or this time tomorrow we'll see some signs. on the clear question just of the debt ceiling, the president says he's open to an extension. house republicans are trying to sell their rank and file on approximately six weeks. you'd raise the debt ceiling so the government can pay its bills. that is the outline of the deal house republicans want to try to sell today that would get us through what the president says would be a catastrophe, not raising the debt ceiling. it would not deal with what we call a crisis, that is re-opening the government. we'd still have government by band-aid but perhaps one that would lower the temperature just a bit. >> so there's still a big difference as you're indicating between getting this extension and getting the government fully open again. that's one thing they have to deal with. you have these meetings at the

white house today, senate democrats, house republican leaders meeting with the president separately. do you think this is a sign at least they're now talking since they're finally meeting? or is this -- i don't want to be cynical, but how can you not be, another instance of checking the box to say you tried if things don't work out. >> if things don't work out, that's just what it will be. it's hard not to be cynical. i'm the guy that said i've known some of these people for 15 or 20 years, there's no way they'll shut the government down. they understand the stakes, there's no way they'll take us to the verge of default. usually we use these terms when talking about the israelis or palestinians. or talking with iran. if the president can sit down with house republicans, not agree but at least start to understand each other a little better, respect each other a little better or at least find a common interest. as we said yesterday, in some ways, the president even though he's winning politically here to a degree, needs to help john

boehner if he wants to get anything done for the rest of his presidency or at least over the next year and a half or so. they have common goals even if they're more cynical political goals. let's see if they can agree on something. >> no kidding. there was a gallup poll released yesterday that's getting a lot of attention. the republican party's favorable rating now at 28%, a record low in gallup polling. that's down 10% from just -- ten points from just last month. as this fight drags on, we've said all along, the republicans while everyone is being blamed for the shutdown and this crisis, republicans are taking more of the blame. do you get a sense that republicans are concerned about these numbers when you see that 28% at the moment? or do they think they're in the middle of a fight, they have to deal with this fight and they can make up for the favorable rating later? >> an overwhelming majority of republicans get this, kate. they know they're coming out of two presidential election cycles where they have other problems.

they can't get the vote of people of color. urban and suburban government are more reliant on government than rural america. that gallup poll shows you it's getting worse, not better. the hard part is trying to sell this to an individual house member who's going home it a district where he or she got 55, 60, 65% or maybe was unopposed in the last election. they worry about back home. that's the split you have right now as the speaker and other leaders try, first, let's see if they can get a debt ceiling deal today. they have to deal with the question, can they get the conservatives to drop their obsession with obama care and re-open the government somehow. >> today we could see a first step maybe. let's have hope while we can. >> let's hope we're having a more happy friday by tomorrow. >> we can hope. thanks, john. every friday is happy, first

of all. the polls clearly show it takes two to tango. i think that's one part that's ignored. the polls show there's a little bit of unequal thing. the left has the equivalency narrative when you're saying democrats are somehow involved. of course they are. of course it takes both sides. you see it in the polls and the practicality. both sides, hopefully move forward together. coming up on "new day," a dad who says he can't control his 9-year-old son. you've been hearing about this boy, the one who somehow got past tsa agents on to the plane, went to vegas. turns out there's a lot more to the story. going on in this family, the boy's father has something he wants everyone to know. also ahead, a popular diet supplement linked to liver dama damage in more than two dozen people. one person even died from this. now the product is being pulled from store shelves. what you need to know, ahead.

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welcome back to "new day." indra petersons is here with what you need to know before you head out the door this morning. what can we expect. >> i wish i could say good news but unfortunately i'm getting yelled at a lot this morning. it all has to do with the rain heading our way or depending where you are, is already there. it's a slow-moving system. get comfortable with this guy. it's your new friend as you go through the weekend. look at the amount of rainfall we're expecting in the mid-atlantic and northeast over the next several days. this is for the next three days. 3 to 5 in the mid-atlantic. the reason for that, it will hang there, pull in the moisture from the coast day by day. we add in the winds, get a high

and low close to each other. beach erosion will also be a concern over the next couple days. the temperatures, also cool. obviously you have a storm in the area. we are talking about below normal temperatures in many places. even 10 degrees below for fall. d.c. just into the 50s. where can i go? go to the middle of the country. that's where temperatures are good, 15 degrees above normal. it is beautiful there. once you go to the pacific northwest you see the big contrast between the middle of the country and west of it. every time we see that, we'll be talking about the threat for severe weather. thanks to the system moving out of the rockies, from the dakotas to the panhandle of texas. we'll be concerned with heavy thunderstorms. hope everyone has -- is this football weather? i don't know, kate. you like the football, rainy, nice, cold, windy. >> every kind of weather is football weather. just remember that. >> done deal then. >> absolutely. >> makes my job easy. >> thank you for the weather. again, you look very nice this

morning. i want to talk to you about the story about the 9-year-old kid that found his way on to a plane and went to vegas. the father wanted to hold a press conference. he wants to reveal information. the distraught father says he has a family in crisis, that he has been trying to do things but now he's at the end of his rope. cnn's miguel marquez is in minneapolis with the latest here. some real turns in this story, miguel. what do we know now? >> reporter: the turns only get turnier, this chris is brilliant, bored or bad, possibly a mix of all three. the day before his history-making flight to vegas, he was here at the airport, grabbed a bag off the carousal and left. that's a bad boy. the day he went to vegas he was on escalators playing like any other 9-year-old would. then he got through the security

barriers by following a family in. now, this bizarre press conference by his father. >> we're asking for help. >> a tearful and disguised father of the 9-year-old, making a public cry for help. >> we've been asking for help. no one stepped up to help. >> the man says the last he knew his rambunctious son took the trash out. next thing he knew for sure, his kid was in vegas. >> he's a 9-year-old child. he went through screening. he boarded the plane. how is that possible? >> reporter: he says officers threatened to arrest him if he physically punished his troublesome son. >> if i want my son i get locked up. if i let my son keep on doing what he's doing, i get in trouble. >> reporter: just in the last few weeks the 9-year-old was suspended from school for fighting. that's when he not only stole this delivery truck but

apparently purposely crashed it into this squad car, the minneapolis star tribune found more. he had a history of riding the light rail to the water park and sneaking in with a large family. >> he is not a monster. >> he's just a kid with a lot of energy and creativity that needs to be channeled in a new direction. >> reporter: a defiant 9-year-old and family struggling to deal with him. now, the airport is reviewing its security arrangements based on this situation. we know this young man went through a hearing in vegas. that was closed and sealed. we expect him back here on friday. when he gets back here, my guess is he'll have a lot more attention on him. it might be more difficult to do this in the future. kate? >> very good point. thanks so much, miguel. let's go around the world, starting in cairo where people are reacting to the u.s.'s decision to cut off aid in

egypt. ian lee has that. >> reporter: it's supposed to send a message to cairo by withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid that washington is upset with the current pace of egypt's transition, back to democracy and violence on the streets. over 1,000 people have died in clashes with security forces since the army ousted the country's first freely elected president last july. no reaction from egyptian officials yet but the public is divided, some want the aid gone altogether while others are upset as this comes as the country fights a low-level insurgency. back to you, kate. >> thank you so much. to moscow where edward snowden, the national security agency's leaker now living there. could he be reuniting with his father today? phil black has more on this story. >> reporter: he arrived at the same airport his son spent six weeks living in earlier this year. he flew in from toronto, saying he's come to moscow to learn more about his son's situation, his health and legal options. he made it clear he doesn't

speak to edward. they haven't been in direct contact and he hopes the opportunity presents itself, they'll get to see each other. he thanked the russian people, the russian president for insuring his son's safety and freedom. a hungarian wing suit flyer has died after a jump into a gorge in china goes horribly wrong. pauline chiou has more on this. >> reporter: rescuers have found the body of victor kovacs. nearly 200 rescuers combed the rocky terrain to find him. an investigation is under way. it's believed he crashed into a cliff after his parachute didn't open. wing suit flyers wear specifically designed suit that slows down their descent but like skydiving, the flight is supposed to end with a parachute. back to you, kate.

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welcome back to "new day." a popular weight loss supplement has been pulled from shelves. the fda is warning people to stop taking it immediately. this supplement is suspected in two dozen cases of liver failure and hepatitis and at least one death. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is at the cnn center with much, much more. what exactly is this supplement and what are we learning about it from investigators? >> michaela, this supplement is marketed for weight loss. back in september, scientists in hawaii noticed, wow, we have about seven people who have acute liver failure and hepatitis and liver problems like that, all of them took the supplement. these were all people who had been previously healthy. and they just couldn't figure it out until they figured out the link, which is that they had all taken the supplement. now they're looking to see if perhaps there are more cases in other states. in hawaii one person died and two people have required liver

transplants. let's hear from the company that makes oxyelite pro. here's what they have to say. the cluster of liver issues in hawaii is a complete mystery and nothing like this has ever been associated with oxyelite pro in all of the years our products have been on the market. we know of no credible evidence linking oxyelite pro to liver issues. the company says we've taken it off the market out of an abundance of caution. >> this is not the first time this company that makes oxyelite pro has had trouble. >> last year the fda said, wait a second, you're using an ingredient that's illegal and could be linked to heart attacks. the company took it out. there is a history here, michaela. >> how does this happen? these supplements like other supplements, they're regulated, are they not? >> they're regulated but not in the way youmy might think. a drug has to get approval before it goes on the market. it doesn't work the same way with supplements. supplements can go on the market

and then be -- the burden of proof is on the fda saying there's something wrong, let's take it off the market. i think people don't know thatp this they think, the fda or someone must have approved this beforehand. that's not only the case. >> will the fda now step in or no? >> unfortunately this happened with splems over the years that we've had problems with this supplement or that supplement. and the laws have never really changed. there have been tweaks but still it remains the way it's been for a long time. >> concerning. elizabeth cohen with the latest on that. thank you for bringing that to our attention. something right now from our must-see moment. check this video out. it's cute and they're off. what appears to be a race to the finish line might be a lesson in crawling. the baby and his pals, a pair of beautiful melmutes. this ends up being like a car wash.

they overtake the baby. >> the dog think it's a race. >> the one on your right or left kind of not very good at crawling. >> dogs don't need to crawl. >> that's true. they have legs for a reason. >> i believe the baby is doing what babies do. there's probably somebody near the camera with food that is making those dogs come in that actual way. >> likely. >> baby bottle here. >> you do what you have to do. >> capture the moment. they'll appreciate it later. >> they will. coming up next on "new day," some lawmakers say blowing through the debt ceiling is no big deal but many business leaders disagree. we'll be joined by one top financial executive with a stern warning for congress. and you go on a roller coaster for a thrill but not a thrill like this. stuck high off the ground for hours at a florida amusement park. what happened? we'll have the full story. wder.

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i am sad to report that cinderella has exited the baseball playoffs. the pittsburgh pirates, everybody's favorite, they hadn't been there in so long but it ended for them. andy scholes joins us with more in this year's bleacher report. they had a great run. >> they did, chris. they had nothing to hang their head about. after 20 straight losing seasons, the pirates made the playoffs. unfortunately for them, they ran into cardinals race adam wainwright. here's the two-run shot in the second inning. wainwright threw a complete game, giving up one run. the cardinals advance to the

nlcs to take on the dodgers. the tigers and a's play tonight. washington redskins owner daniel snyder is doubling down on his commitment not to change the name of his team. he sent a letter saying he wanted to keep the redskins name. this comes just days after president obama said if he were the owner, he'd consider changing the name. we've seen hockey games in football stadiums, basketball games on aircraft carriers. what's next? how about a college football game at a racetrack. according to reports, virginia tech and tennessee have agreed to meet halfway between the two schools and play a game at bristol motor speedway during the 2016 season. the official announcement is expected on monday. and chris and kate, if they play this game at the speedway, an estimated 160,000 fans are expected to attend. that would absolutely shatter the record attendance for a college football game.

>> where is the grass, though? what am i missing? >> the infield. >> there's grass in the infield. >> they can put it down, too. >> it doesn't have to be real. thanks, andy. i've learned something today. i'm now -- i'm now done. i can leave now. >> the "new day" promise of making you smarter every day, comes true even for us. >> the top of the hour, which means it's time for the top news. we are here, ready to negotiate. that's why we are here. >> signs of hope on capitol hill, both sides talking about a deal. but only for the short term. we're live with the details and what could happen next. danger in the air. look at this photo. a hot air balloon catches fire, two passengers on board barely escape with their lives. so what went wrong? too distracted to notice a

gunman. a man shot and killed on a subway. police believe the killer could have been stopped if passengers weren't so focused on their smartphones. >> your "new day" starts right now. what you need to know -- >> i think there's not an emergency on the debt ceiling and this alarm about default is false. >> announcer: what you just have to see. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan, and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome back to "new day," thursday, october 10th, 7:00 in the east. there's a word being kicked around washington we haven't heard in a while. it is pronounced deal. but it's a defined term here. why? house republicans have a plan that would increase the debt ceiling. that's good. but for a short time, that's not as good but it wouldn't touch the government shutdown. >> right. >> that's bad. the president, house, suggests

he is open to this deal. the proposal would, again, not be perfect but if this can actually happen, we'll tell you how. breaking overnight, libya's prime minister kidnapped by armed militants in tripoli, then released just a few hours later what was going on? was it retaliation for the u.s. raid that nabbed a suspected al qaeda leader in libya? we'll have a live report. we'll take a look at an interesting question. can you be too drunk to be found guilty? some people who are convicted of drinking and driving and then killing people are arguing they were too intoxicated to understand the threat they posed to others. now if a judge or judges rule in their favor, what could this mean to the law going forward? we'll take a look with legal analyst jeffrey toobin. first, let's break down what could be signs of progress to the deadlock that's bringing our nation to the edge of economic disaster. why do we think it could break? house republicans and the president may possibly find a compromise at least for now.

cnn's brianna keilar is live at the white house this morning. i'm being qualified but that's better than we've heard. >> it is. you have to be qualified about it. that's the right way to approach it. today, chris, we'll be seeing house republicans, just leaders and key committee chairs coming to the white house. we'll also see senate democrats here as well. this comes on the heel of president obama meeting last night with house democrats where he gave the most clear sign yet that he's willing to go for a stop gap measure, at least for a little while if republicans get on board. finally they're talking. house democrats met the president at the white house last night. >> we just had a very positive meeting with the president of the united states. >> reporter: president obama's message, he's open to a short-term deal to increase the debt ceiling for six weeks. according to a lawmaker in the meeting. republicans are warming to the idea of a shorter deal, followed by negotiations with the president on reducing the debt

and deficit. house budget committee chairman paul ryan penned an op-ed in "the wall street journal" that did not even mention gop demands to delay or defund obama care but tea party-backed republicans still want that fight. after a brief debt ceiling increase and are arguing against ending the government shutdown. >> i would do a debt ceiling increase for six weeks so the president can negotiate with john boehner, and i would keep fighting on the continuing resolution and obama care. >> reporter: in interviews with local news stations, president obama was asked to explain his own vote against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. >> i voted against a debt ceiling increase at the time because i have some concerns about what president bush was doing. >> reporter: specifically the bush tax cuts. and he argued it's okay for certain republicans to protest policies with a no vote but he said there must be a vote. >> there should never be a proposition where the speaker of

the house is not willing to put those votes to the floor right now. >> reporter: congress isn't faring well in this budget fight. a new gallup poll shows republicans with a 28% favorable right, down ten points from last month. the democrats slid four points to 4 %. a white house official i spoke with said president obama was looking forward to explaining his case to all of the house republicans today at the white house, but house republican leaders said that they want to negotiate. and they don't feel they can do that with 200 plus members in the room, kate. can you imagine the drama of president obama in the same room, perhaps, with some of the key party republicans who he's blaming for the shutdown and for holding up the debt ceiling? >> brianna, some would argue that's what needs to happen. get together, fight it out, stay in there until you get it done. not this time. >> yes. >> thanks so much.

at least one horrible wrong has been righted ten days into the government shutdown. a charity with a long history of helping the country's men and women in the military is doing what congress has not. paying death benefits to the grieving military families trying to bury their fallen loved ones. cnn's barbara starr is live at the pentagon following this side of the shutdown this morning. good morning, barbara. >> reporter: since the government shut down about two dozen troops have died, some in the war zone, some back here at home. a temporary solution for the families but still a lot of questions about how did it ever get this far. at this air force base, 24-year-old army ranger cody patterson came home to his family. as defense secretary chuck hagel paid his respects, unbearable grief for families made much worse because the government shutdown left them without death benefits. marine lance corporal jeremiah michael collins' remains were brought monday to

dover. his mother shannon says he was a great marine. >> he became a marine to become somebody. he became a great marine. >> reporter: the white house wednesday promised a quick fix to a problem that had become a p.r. disaster. the president says he acted as soon as he heard the problem. >> when i heard about this story, i told the department of defense, within our administrative powers, we should be able to get that fixed. >> reporter: top aides were urgently working on a solution. the pentagon signed a contract with fisher house foundation, a private organization that helps war wounded. fisher house will pay the family's bills and a $100,000 death benefit. the government will pay it back when the shutdown ends. but for veterans, a looming disaster if the shutdown continues much longer. more than 3 million receive disability checks that may not come on november 1st. many new veterans from iraq and

afghanistan still waiting to be approved for disability payments will have to keep waiting. >> roughly 1,400 veterans a day are now not receiving decisions on their disability compensation claims. >> reporter: if the mess in washington isn't solved, the v.a. will not be able to pay $6 billion due to more than 5 million people expecting checks. including veterans, their surviving spouses and children on november 1st. but on the disaster, the pr political disaster of the death benefits, the pentagon says it has long warned congress and white house officials that it would not be able to pay death benefits if the government shut down. some in congress said they didn't get the word. chris? >> too consumed with less important things down there, the politics of it. barbara starr, thank you very much for reporting this morning. breaking overnight, libya's prime minister kidnapped by gunmen and then released just hours later. the incident is thought to be

some sort of pay back for libya's role in the capture of a top al qaeda terrorist that u.s. forces captured. senior international correspondent nic robertson following developments from tripoli. this is a bizarre situation. >> reporter: the militia that kidnapped the prime minister this morning is one that's been sanctioned by libyan lawmakers to be part of law enforcement here in tripoli. it's an indication that the government is realizing its worse fears over the capture of abu anas over the weekend. they were worried about a backlash, particularly coming from islamist militias, not clear they were the islamists were behind the kidnapping of the prime minister but it's exactly what the government was worried about, shows that

fragility and shows the reason why 200 marines were moved from their base in spain, u.s. marines, and moved to italy to be much closer here to the embassy in tripoli should that need arise, chris. >> and that leads to the question of what happens next? is this a situation now where you'll need to see some type of u.s. involvement or more bolstering of the surrounding areas because of how easily that was pulled off? >> what i'm told, this is going to lead to is essentially an end to the political process. you'll have politicians that it will be a shell, if you will. a much greater focus of the stakeholders here, that is the united states and other european partners who are interested in boosting the security of libyan security services. the people associated with libya who understand the situation here, have been writing reports about the dwindling power of the government and the rise of the armed militias, particularly those tied to al qaeda, those

who were perhaps involved in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi last year. the rise of those groups. they think now that there will be much greater focus. and that support to build the security services here to thwart the growth of al qaeda here, that's what they expect to happen or hope at least will happen, chris. >> nic, thank you very much for the reporting and perspective this morning. back here at home, you can talk about an overt-the-top thrill ride. people getting quite a view in orlando last night when the roller coaster malfunctioned leaving them stranded for hours. more than 100 feet in the air. cnn's pamela brown is here, tracking this story. so what happened, pamela? >> i don't think this is the experience these thrill seekers were going after. certainly as we saw there in that video. a technical glitch left them sitting in a 90 degree position at the top of orlando's tallest roller coaster ride for nearly

2 1/2 hours. every roller coaster rider's worst nightmare caught on camera wednesday night. this cell phone video shows 12 people suspended 140 feet in the air in the dark of night, trapped on the hollywood rip ride rocket at orlando's universal studios. >> this has got to be one of the scare rest things for something to go through while they're on roller coaster. >> reporter: passengers were stuck on a vertical incline for nearly 2 1/2 hours. a position this father and his daughter were relieved to have missed. they rode the coasters minutes before the malfunction. >> she was scared half to death about it, but i said it will be take, they take good care of their stuff. thank goodness it wasn't us. >> reporter: the coaster came screeching to a halt around 7:00 p.m. due to a technical glitch. >> they're stuck in this position and hopefully they can get the cars in motion and get these people off of this ride. >> reporter: orlando fire rescue crews used an elevator to get to the peak of the dropoff.

almost two hours after the malfunction. >> once we got it to a horizontal position, our guys can put the victims in harnesses and were able to walk them off the ride. >> reporter: firefighters began carefully removing the riders, slowly guiding them down the stairs with flashlights to the elevator platform. all 12 thrill seekers finally touched the ground at 9:30. a park spokesperson saying one female passenger was transported to the hospital for neck and back pain. in this case, have been repo-- other injuries have been reported from the roller coaster. a universal studio spokesperson telling cnn they're investigating what happened on the ride before it re-opens. >> making matters worse, it was at night, sitting there

suspended in the air. >> the concern becomes are we picking out the exempticeptions the rule? >> how they're regulated versus not regulated. it's gray with these amusement parks. seem to be a lot of these stories. >> i've covered a few in the past couple of months. >> you're absolutely right. you have, pamela. >> thank you. let's get straight to michaela for the headlines. good morning to you at home new this morning, four egyptian soldiers killed, five wounded after a car bomb explosion in the sinai peninsula. government forces have been under repeated attack in that area. the obama administration stopped sending major military aid to egypt because of the government's violent crackdown on the muslim brotherhood. just in to cnn, 82-year-old canadian alice monroe has just been named the winner of the nobel prize for literature. the selection committee called monroe a master of the contemporary short story. the much acclaimed writer was

awarded for her story that focused on the frailties of the human condition. a retired west virginia police officer armed with an assault weapon and handgun shot to death by police after opening fire on a federal courthouse. former officer thomas picard retired back in 2000 after 20 years on the force. witnesses say he fired up to two dozen shots yesterday afternoon before police took him down. two court security guards were treated for minor injuries. no word yet on a possible motive. a total of seven motorcyclists have been charged in connection with the attack on an suv and its driver in new york city. this latest arrest coming last night, 31-year-old james kuhn faces gang assault and other charges. one of the suspects is an nypd detective. he was arraigned in court wednesday. prosecutors believe he was an active participant in that attack. the usda is demanding foster farms, the farm indicated in the salmonella outbreak onrespond to

later than today with a solution to the problem. that agency threatening to close three poultry plants. in a letter, the usda said sanitary conditions at their facilities were so poor that they posed a serious ongoing threat to public health. some stunning video from midland county, texas. look at this. a freight train hitting a tractor-trailer at a railroad crossing. apparently the truck was stuck there. the impact sending the truck's flat bed full of pipes flying all over the place. the train pushed the big rig down the tracks for about a half mile. the driver of the semi just left the cab before the crash. it still takes your breath away. >> scary for the train conductor. >> nothing he can do at that point. >> people complain about those. the bells, the crossing, what do

we need those for? a precarious situation. >> when you see things a lot, there's a reason for it. the media finds those -- it happens a lot for a reason. >> it's happening. let's get back over to indra for another check of the forecast. >> we have a big rainmaker that will be hanging along the coastline all weekend long. it is so slow moving, that's going to be the hardest part about this. it's not going to be just rain. winds go clockwise around a high, counterclockwise around a low. you put those guys close to each other, you're talking about strong winds. northeastly winds will be out there, rough seas. 40, 45 miles per hour. let's take a look at the pattern. notice this pattern stays with us as we go through the weekend. we'll get very familiar here with kind of cold, rainy, wet pattern. take a look at how much rain we're expecting from 3 to 5 inches in the mid-atlantic.

it brings that moisture off the coastline right into the inland area. take it day by day, here you go. thursday, we're seeing through d.c., south of new york, making its way in through new york city. by tomorrow, still lingering in the region. i'll show you saturday as well. it doesn't look different. by sunday it should start to taper out. that ill, the good news. temperaturewise, on the cool side, 5, 10 degrees below normal. >> not a friend. >> in the a -- not a friend? >> he would be something less than that. he, she, it. frenemy. >> we all have a couple of those. >> thanks, indra. >> coming up on "new day," america's biggest ceos are sounding the alarm about the need to end the government shutdown. now pricewaterhousecoopers ceo robert morris is here to explain the stakes. >> interesting to get his take

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business leaders are speaking up. joining us is one of those calling for a change in course, mr. robert e. morris, chairman and ceo of pricewaterhousecoopers. thanks for joining us. >> great to be here. thanks very much. >> what is your message to congress? >> well, very simply, you have two-thirds of the ceos across the u.s. extremely concerned about the government's reaction to the various issues we're dealing with. and the message that the ceos are bringing is, hey, you've got to take the responsibility to get in a room, think long term, compromise and see through this problem. today you've got ceos that are frustrated, ceos that are numb to this and ceos that are doing scenario planning because of the significant impact on their business because of the uncertainty that the government inaction is taking today and the impact it has on their business. >> do you accept the logger head that the republicans have pushed

it too far, the democrats say we cannot negotiate? would you accept that in the business environment? >> from my perspective, both sides are at fault. the reality is each of our elected officials, just like ceos today have to figure out way to get in a room, think about the morass that goes on and get in a room and compromise. each side today, i think is taking an inappropriate position in terms of what needs to be done here and is not actually acting as elected officials. and our message from the fix the debt campaign is all about calling our elected officials to say, hey, i support you, i know you have to take tough decisions. we have to do it each and every day. get in a room, think long term and get this thing dealt with so it's more than a short-term fix. my belief is we'll get past the debt issue. the reality is i think we'll be back at the table yet again. >> that's where we are. if the best they can do on just

a short-term fix on the debt ceiling that doesn't re-open the government, is that good enough or more of the same. >> it's more of the same. the reality, people need to understand the big picture here. the u.s. economy and it's status in the global basis is actually extremely important. ceos around the world, politicians around the world, government officials around the world actually are relying on the u.s. they see that as a positive in terms of what's happening in the u.s. over the last few years. it's what i'll call the saving grace and the beacon of light that others are looking towards. not only are we dealing with problems inside the state, others outside the states that want to invest here can see a degree of confidence. this is decreasing their confidence level because of the uncertainty, as a result, makes matters worse for additional investment from the outside, looking to the u.s. to lead. >> let me poke holes at that. moody's said it doesn't matter what happens with the debt ceiling. these types of things have happened before. it happened in 2011.

you're playing domino theory here. in all likelihood the government has plenty of money to pay its bills far after the ceiling expires. >> i would agree with the statement from this perspective. i don't think anyone in their right mind wants to force them to do over the debt ceiling and into default. it's irrational, illogical. the debt ceiling is one of several issues we're dealing with. you have the government shutdown issue and major budget issues that we're worried about over the long term when you look at our planning from here forward. the degree of confidence from the outside or the degree of confidence from inside is shaken because of the uncertainty of the totality of what's going on right now. >> what do you think the chances are that if this is a short-term deal and the government stays shut down and they can't get it done, that there winds up being major consequences? what's the chance that that actually happens? >> i think there are consequences that will come.

so i believe personally that the debt ceiling will be dealt with, we'll kick the can down the road or figure out a way to extend it. i do worry about the combination of irresponsible fiscal planning. and the impact it has to "a," confidence and "b," the impact directly on business. we're seeing it today. there's airline and defense industries that are impacted. retail and consumer impacts that are happening. where government is big in local communities, small business is being impact. they're unwilling to invest higher because of the uncertainty. they are seeing a reduced spending. it does have an impact. at some point in time, the stock market comes into play here as well. >> give me a quick yes, no on something. your perspective will be valuable to congress. your donations even more so. are you or other ceos to your knowledge calling up lawmakers and saying if you don't get this done, i'm not going to give you any money? >> the answer is yes.

you see ceos doing that today. we're considering as well. we are trying to get the money that we believe are doing the right things, have the right debates and are willing to push the agenda and step aside their political positions to do what's right for the u.s. economy and the people. >> that's what they listen to the most. mr. morris, thank you for joining "new day" today. appreciate the perspective. >> happy to be here, chris. thanks very much. what do you know? what do you think about this? this is what it's all about. what did you think about what mr. morris had to say and about the situation going forward? great perspective. an amazing and terrifying picture, up next on "new day," as a hot air balloons clips power liens in new mexico and plummets toward the ground. makes you wonder how the men riding in the balloon survived. we have an update, coming up. a man pulls out a gun in plain sight on a san francisco train. no one seems to notice until a fatal shot is fired.

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welcome back to "new day," it is thursday, the 10th of october. want to bring you up to date on the latest news. cnn has learned republican house members are getting a proposal ready to temporarily raise the debt ceiling, likely for four to six weeks. but still keep the government shut down. top gop leaders are set to meet with the president later today. in the meantime, the fisher house foundation will cover death benefits for military families during the shutdown as congress works on a bill. libya's prime minister

kidnapped, armed rebels pulling ali zeidan out of a hotel. he was unharmed. a stunning development in the case of a georgia teen found dead in a high school gym. cnn has learned that parts of kendrick johnson's body was stuffed with newspaper before his burial. this revelation adding fuel to the fire that kendrick's cause of death is being covered up. he was found dead in a rolled up gym mat in january, his death ruled accidental. his parents, however, aren't buying that. hensley and danny have something to tell their baby when he grows up. she went into labor and had to drive herself to the hospital. she pulled into his husband's station, who was at work, hopped into the ambulance with his

partner behind the wheel. but by the time they arrived at the hospital, they had done the work. little owen arrived, 7 pounds, 7 ounces. mom and baby are reportedly doing just fine. dad doing his job. check and check. >> never been more nervous in his life. >> the clarity she had. >> she is awesome. and your baby is adorable. >> i know. and healthy, most important. >> exactly. a startling scene in new mexico to tell you about this morning. two men rushed to the hospital. just take a look at that picture, after their hot air balloon crashes into power liens, seems to explode into a fireball and then plummets 40 feet to the ground. "early start" anchor zoraida sambolin is here with more on this. that pictures tells you. >> it looks terrible, doesn't it? >> yes. >> the accident happening in albuquerque on wednesday. 59-year-old mark kilgore and 66-year-old daniel lavoto are being treated for burns. a ball of flames lights the sky

outside of albuquerque, new mexico wednesday as a hot air balloon catches fire midflight at the international balloon fiesta festival. two men are trapped inside. the balloon ignited after hitting a power line. >> at that point there was an explosion, shot flames out about 20 feet to the side. i saw him slump. i didn't know about the condition. at that point the gondola really started to drop. >> reporter: both victims must be dragged out of the burning balloon. they are now in the hospital, suffering severe burns. frightening ballooning accidents like this one are extremely rare. the national transportation safety board has investigated only 760 accidents in the united states since 1964. and 67 of those have been fatal. in january, an entire wedding party survived crash landing behind a house in san diego. the bride and groom made it to their reception after the accident. but sometimes incidents are

deadly. just this february, 19 tourists in egypt were killed when a hot air balloon burst into flames and plummeted to the ground. and last year, 11 people were killed in new zealand when a balloon exploded after striking a power line. >> accidents have been pretty common at this event in albuquerque. a local station says a balloon hit a power pole saturday and then on sunday, another one hit some power lines. both managed to land safely. we are happy to report. but when it's bad news, it's really bad news. >> it looks so scary. >> couldn't imagine being in it. >> exactly. >> from far away it's scary, imagine being there. are you ready for this story? clueless or scared stiff? that's the question being raised by the story out of san francisco. here's the situation. a brazen shooting happens on a crowded subway car. the killer is caught on surveillance video apparently choosing the victim at random. the bizarre part that raises the question, before he fires, he waves the gun around, even

points it at people. no one seems to bat an eyelash. what had riders so distracted? cnn's kyung lah explains. >> reporter: the man looks agitated, shifting back and forth, sometimes 13450smiling f reason. it's 9:30 at night. the san francisco muni car is crowded with a dozen other passengers. police say this man is armed and about to murder someone. what happens next is something we can't show you. the gunman lifts his weapon, three to four times in plain view. the dozen or so other baenpasses on the train, none of them notices. why? according to the prosecutor, their faces were buried in their cell phones. it's not until the gunfires that people look up. shot in the back and killed, 20-year-old justin valdez, a promising san francisco state student, seemingly picked at random. he was simply heading home after

classes that night. >> how close are these people to him. >> two to three feet away from him. >> reporter: san francisco's district attorney is disheartened that no one was paying attention. >> we're seeing people so disconnected with their surroundings. we know this is not unique. we're seeing people being robbed. people are getting hurt. >> reporter: gus is as aghast as people were in 1964 when this woman was brutally stabbed at her apartment building in queens, new york. numerous people heard the attack but assumed others would call for help. today, social phenomenon, people are too absorbed in their smartphones to be aware of what's happening around him. >> it looks like he's turning into another driveway. >> reporter: it's common place to see examples of it. a man doesn't see a join the bear in front of him. >> uh-oh. >> reporter: or another texter walking into a fountain. classmates of justin valdez are feeling the impact of this

behavior. >> it's just people's stupidity, i guess, and ignorance towards what's going on around them. >> reporter: there's no sign of this changing, as we watched at the very train stop that valdez boarded for the last time, students were still buried in their phones. kyung lah, cnn, san francisco. >> sad. >> i'm guilty of it. we uhl look at these. let's not forget what the true response but here is. it's the man with the gun that decided to do a horrible act. that's where it begins and ends, really. >> good point. coming up next on "new day," here is a pretty provocative question for you. too intoxicated to be a killer? three people were convicted of homicide in separate car crashes, now say they were too drunk to understand what they were doing when taking the wheel. we'll talk about this. how about this? the words healthy and obese can't go together, right? wrong. we'll tell you what research is telling us about the widening waistlines and overall health in

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better question may be carry an umbrella or not. let's get to indra petersons at the weather center for a look at the forecast. what do you know, my friend. >> that's the question. does anyone have an umbrella? >> that was a no. i thought that was a question, michaela. we have a sideline the guy in the middle. uh-huh. here we go, either way, the rain is here whether you have the umbrella or not. such a cheesy weather line. here we go. we're talking about this system, it will hang out over the next several days. we're talking about not rain over one period of time but it's

lingering day after day, we will start to accumulate a pretty good amount. in the mid-atlantic, 3 to 5 inches of rain over the next three days. it's parking itself here. the other side of this is strong winds coming out of the northeast. gusty conditions in addition to the rainfall we're looking at. also, cool temperatures, notice, temperatures will be in a lot of places the highs today just into the upper 50s. averages should be the high 60s. it is below normal, again, across most of the northeast and mid-atlantic. the other big storm in the pacific northwest starting to make its way out of the rockies. look for severe weather it looks like from south dakota into the panhandle of texas. back to you, kate. >> all right. thanks so much, indra. the question we've posed before the break and we're been talking about, too intoxicated to drive is one thing and too intoxicated to be guilty of murder? that's the question facing the new york state court of appeals. three people all convicted of second degree murder after they drove under the influence and killed victims in collisions, all three are appealing with

this defense. they were too intoxicated to be charged with murder. cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin is here to talk more about this. talk about a provocative question. >> really hard. >> it centers on the state of mind of these people who were charged. the legal question i was reading up on this, obviously. the person has shown a depraved indifference to human life. what does this mean? >> every crime has two parts. it has an act, you have to do something. >> right. >> you have to have intent. the question, these are all issues about intent. what count as murder? usually we think of murder as i want to kill this person and i killed them. like intentional murder. but you know, since the 1970s, the country has been so outraged about drunk driving, we want to try to increase the penalties as much as possible. so the question in these cases is, can you -- i mean, these people who were high, they were drunk, they didn't get up that morning and say i'm going to kill somebody. so it's not traditional murder.

but was their behavior so awful, was it so reckless, depraved, that it counts as murder, that we should punish it like murder? that's what the court is trying to decide. it's a hard question. >> the argument is we know the consequences of drinking and driving. we know the potential is there for people to be harmed. >> right. and traditionally, drunk driving homicides have been treated as manslaughter. they've been treated as unintentional murder. >> because somebody died in the end. >> somebody died. it's certainly a crime. what makes these cases different, they're not charging manslaughter. they're charging murder. they're charging it as if you're a hitman, setting out to kill saying, look, what i did was bad but it wasn't that bad. >> because i wasn't in control. >> right. >> here it is. competing pressures. professor, tell me what you think about. the prosecutors want to get the highest value crime they can to send the strongest message. >> right. >> on the defense side you have

people fighting for what is legally acceptable. when you say depraved mind, why? because that's more harsh than reckless. reckless it i knew this was risky, i did it anyway. doesn't carry as big a punishment. depraved can mean something legally that winds up allowing you to escape responsibility. >> doesn't depraved somehow get into an issue of mental illness then? >> not really, no. >> no. it's really just more about a bad mind. bad intent. >> okay. >> and i just think it's a real sign of how the society has changed. until the 1970s, people didn't used to be prosecuted at all for drunk driving homicides whonchs then will be the arbiter of how drunk is too drunk to actually be guilty? >> juries. that's what -- in these cases, that was the whole issue in the case. in each of these cases at the trial, there was no doubt the person was driving the car, no doubt the person died.

the only issue was, was their state of mind bad enough to be considered depraved, to be considered murder? the jury said yes. they are looking at 25 to life. the court of appeals, the highest court is deciding whether that's legitimate. >> if you look at it legally, it winds up running contrary to what you want to happen on a human level. here's why. if you are drunk, intoxicated, how do you form the intent that is necessary for these crimes? almost by definition you're not thinking straight. and that's what the jury has to wrestle with, whether they reward the defendant for being so messed up they can't think straight. because ultimately the law would allow for that. and that's why they came up with a lot of legal exceptions to this over the years. they have a whole doctrine of diminished capacity where it makes you responsible for a lesser crime but not completely not responsible. >> how is the court of appeals going to decide in what do you think? >> i don't know.

it's a hard case. this discussion, this is why people find law school interesting. these are hard questions. >> it's not an obvious answer. >> what does that mean for other states then? >> this is all part of the broader pattern of states punishing drunk driving. more harshly all the time. fortunately, there aren't that many people that die as a result of drunk driving. the penalties for drunk driving only go in one direction, they're getting more harsh. if i had to guess, i think they'd uphold the conviction. >> new york has gone that way. they could say deal with it harshly but pick the right law. don't overcharge. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. >> always good to have the professor here. i call him that because he's very smart and can teach. coming up on "new day," kidnapping survivor hannah anderson is speaking out. what happened during the days of

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welcome back to "new day." a fascinating new study suggests as many as a third of obese adults are actually considered healthy, meaning they have normal cholesterol and show no signs of developing diabetes. let's bring in dr. raj from

"health" magazine. this had us talking for sure. third of obese adults are considered metabolically healthy. >> before everyone starts going for the french fries let's make this reality. one study out of australia, looking at thousands of obese people measureded by body mass index up to about a third don't have some of the traditional metabolic diseases we associate with obesity, fatty liver, diabetes, insulin resistance, high blood pressure but another study that came out more recently coming out of finland looked at this issue and saw that in twins, identical twins one of whom was obese and one who was lean they did find some of the obese patients actually were metabolically healthy. this doesn't mean they don't get arthritis and acid reflux, a lot of the other diseases associated with obesity. in the australian study when they followed those "healthy"

obese people many did go on to develop the unhealthy diseases. >> later on. >> this might be a transient phase we're going through. this is not a free pass. it doesn't mean you're not going to develop all of these health conditions but there might be a subset of obese people that are different. we are all different and we're learning how our bodies handle fat differently. >> given the fact that there's great concern about obesity rates here at least in our own country are you concerned about the confusing message this might put out to people? >> i am a little bit. >> who only hear what they want to hear? >> some people might look at this and say see it's just a conspiracy, we're not as unhealthy as everyone says. the truth is we're still saying two-thirds for sure are quite unhealthy and the one-third number is in one study. is this a temporary healthy phase? you're going to go on to become unhealthy? you need to talk to your doctor about your risk factors for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, heart disease, fatty liver and taking to your family history into

account as well. >> fair criticism that as a culture we get too caught up in the numbers. the criticism is we don't take it too seriously, i know that. they alshon jeffery the body mass index at the physical and i'm obese. >> i have to talk to but that. >> we get caught up in the numbers and labels. is there something to that in this study? >> a number is just a number. it has to be taken into the whole context but we use those numbers as crude measures when we look at populations, alshon jefferying simple screening and the doctor who measures your bmi is not going to say you're obese, they'll say based on this number you are but you have a lot of muscle, they have to give you the full conversation. >> that's true. quite obvious. >> thank you, doctor. >> especially in my head. >> the twins study is interesting, identical twins. is there a good explanation why one identical twin what was different about that identical twin to make them healthy or unhealthy obese? >> they didn't get into that yet

but i suspect they will and brings up the whole question how much is environment a factor versus genetics and these, i put it in quotes because i'm not 100% could be convinced but the "healthy" obese people is there something in their environment causing them to be a certain way and if they change that environment it's going to be different. we have to learn a lot more. i think really the interesting part of this whole article is that it's going to lead hopefully to more research on what makes certain people healthy and not and maybe that will help treatments and prevention. >> and nuanced, because people are very black and white with this. >> medicine is heading toward this individualized approach where not one size fits all, look at the individual and figure out the treatment. >> healthfulness, thank you very much, doctor. appreciate it. >> great to see you. >> you, too. coming up republican congressman michele bachmann joining us live. about the shutdown does she want to avert it, and what does she think about the debt limit? her answers may well surprise you.

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>> announcer: what you need to know -- >> nobody's explained to me so far why you have to shut down the government to have a negotiation. >> announcer: what you just have to see. >> citizens are the stewards of the memorial. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning and welcome back to "new day." it is thursday, october 10th, 8:00 in the east, in just moments treasury secretary jack lew will testify before a senate committee about the dangers of hitting the debt ceiling, these you're looking at here live pictures inside the room where the hearing will be taking place. lew already said congress is playing with fire in his words if they don't reach a deal to avoid hitting the debt ceiling. could a proposal in the works now save the u.s. from this crisis? we're going to talk more about it with congresswoman michele

bachmann. and libya's prime minister kidnapped by armed gunmen in tripoli and released hours later. is it retaliation for the u.s. raid that captured the suspected al qaeda leader? what does this mean about the libyan government? we'll give you the details ahead. she pretended to be dead in order to avoid being killed an american woman who lived through the terror attack in a nairobi mall last month speaking out about her terrifying ordeal, she spoke with our anderson cooper, he'll join us live with her incredible story of survival, a heart-shopping one to be sure. first this hour though, there might might be a move within congress to avoid hitting the debt ceiling. short term plan to raise the borrowing limit is in the works, at least being discussed. a democratic lawmaker telling cnn the president could get on board. president obama expected to meet with house republican leaders later today. you can be sure that will be a topic of conversation. let's get to senior white house correspondent brianna keilar with the latest.

good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. senate democrats will be coming here to the white house to meet with president obama as will house republicans, this comes on the heels of president obama meeting with house democrats giving them the clearest indication that he would go ahead on this stop gap measure to increase the debt ceiling if republicans are on board with it. finally they're talking. house democrats met the president at the white house last night. >> we've just had a very positive meeting with the president of the united states. >> reporter: president obama's message, he's openi to a short term deal to increase the debt ceiling for six weeks according to a lawmaker in the meeting. republicans are warming to the idea of a shorter deal followed by negotiations with the president on reducing the debt and deficit. house budget committee chairman paul ryan penned an op-ed in "the wall street journal" that did not even mention gop demands to delay or defund obama care, but tea party-backed republicans

still want that fight. after a brief debt ceiling increase and are arguing against ending the government shutdown. >> i would alshon jeffery a debt ceiling increase for six weeks so the president can negotiate with john boehner and i would keep the fighting on the continuing resolution and obama care. >> reporter:? interviews with local news stations president obama was asked to explain his own vote against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. >> i voted against a debt ceiling increase at the time because i have some concerns about what president bush was alshon jefferying. >> reporter: specifically the bush tax cuts, and he argued it's okay for certain republicans to protest policies with a no vote but he said there must be a vote. >> there should never be a proposition where the speaker of the house is not willing to put those votes to the floor right now. >> reporter: congress isn't fairing well in this budget fight. new gallup poll shows

republicans with a 28% rate, down 10% since last month, democrats slid four points to 43%. one white house official i spoke with said president obama wanted to make his case to all house republicans at the white house but republican leaders decided to pare is down to a dozen and a half members, those in leadership and key committees saying they want to have a negotiation and having so many people in the room really wouldn't go to that end but imagine the drama if you had president obama in the same room with some of these tea party republicans that he blames for this whole mess. >> interesting question. thank you, brianna, for the reporting. let's follow on that question by bringing in republican congresswoman from minnesota, michele bachmann. thank you for joining us on "new day." >> good morning, chris, great to be with you. >> let's take a look at the polls quickly. you said previously the house gop is happy about the position they're in. you look at the polls you still

feel happy about the position you're in? >> i said i was very happy we were unified, we were completely unified around the idea that we need to have two parties come together, that's our form of government. the president, the senate, and also the house need to come together and negotiate and we as a house were completely unified from the moderates to the tea party republicans, we were unified in standing together that we need to represent the interests of the people, that we have a problem with debt, a problem with spending and we need to get our economic house back in order. >> it comes down to tactics when you talk about unity. many in your party are saying i'm not worried about the deadline with the debt ceiling. we'll be okay, not you, though. you are worried about the deadline, you don't want to join what a lot of republicans are suggesting which is to let's blow off the deadline and keep fighting and see what happens. you're saying you don't want to alshon jeffery that. isn't that true? >> well i think that we don't

want that for our economy. we want to make sure we deal with the economic problems we have right now and president obama voted against raising the debt ceiling that was looking at a $9 trillion debt. today we're looking at a $17 trillion debt and i know you have the counter on your screen right now that talks about how many hours we've been in the shutdown. i would suggest that cnn also put up a counter of the debt clock, about how quickly we're accumulating debt. it's frightening when people see how fast that's accumulating. that's what we want to do is really come together, both democrats and republicans and deal with this very serious issue that the next generation will have to face and that's the accumulating debt that's hurting growth in the united states. >> but it still does take us back to tactics, doesn't it, congresswoman? while few would disagree about the need to address the national debt and the deficit connected thereto, it comes down to what

do you to address it. we had a republican senator on who came on and said i'm okay with a managed catastrophe involving the debt limit if it allowed us to believe in what we believe in. >> what republicans have been trying to do from the beginning is put offer after offer after offer on the table to get to yes that's what we want to do. we didn't want the shutdown. we don't want to see the debt ceiling have a problem. we want to solve this and that's why you've seen so many different offers on the table. this is a good move that today there will be leadership members from the republican party meeting with the president of the united states, perhaps we can move this ball down the court and actually get this settled. i think we can. we found this week alone the american people only 7% of the american people think the obama care rollout has been successful and i think this is something that we need to face while the

whole goal of obama care was to give health insurance options to americans that didn't have health insurance, maybe we should take a different tact and allow people to opt in to obama care rather than forcing 100% of all americans to buy a product that they're not interested in buying from a website that doesn't work. it may be a good idea to let americans just opt in and offer some sort of a fund for pre-existing conditions where people can get the help and assistance they need. i think it's time to re-look at this. that's all republicans are saying. let's actually have a system that works for the majority of the american people. >> but aren't republicans also saying, and if you don't let us do that right now, we will continue to keep the government shut down. we will go through the deadline of the debt ceiling and see what happens next until you negotiate with us about obama care, and is that reckless? >> well remember that the mainstream media really has given a false narrative, over

and over and over again, the mainstream media has blamed the republicans for this and yet the only party that has put offer after offer after offer on the table has been the republicans, the only position unfortunately of the president and harry reid, the democrats in the senate, has been we're going to hold our breath until we turn blue, in other words, we're not negotiating. that's not a reasonable, tenable position, so we're seeing some movement now the president being willing to look at a short term debt ceiling increase and by meeting with the republican leadership in the house of representatives. i'm excited. i think that we're going to get there, but again, i think the president has to recognize that while maybe his intentions were good with health care, it's costing a lot more. we're getting a lot less. let's do what works for the american people and let people opt into obama care, don't force people to buy a product they don't want from a website that doesn't work. >> i get the idea. the question is, at what cost?

what i'd like to ask see what your answer is on it, is if your leadership comes back to you and says forget it, they're not going to give us what we want on obama care, let's forget about the debt ceiling, let's keep going, we'll be okay. will you stand with your lead leadership if they say we're going to blow the deadline, let's see what happens. >> our leadership will make sure we're being responsible, that the american economy is going to move forward. right now we don't want to put the american economy at risk. we haven't had a growth economy, we haven't had a job producing economy, that's what we want to have. so we want to be responsible, but at the same time again like i would suggest to cnn, put the debt ceiling clock to be fair also on your screen so people can see the breathtaking, stunning increase in debt every single day and i think then people realize what's at stake and why republicans are trying to get a grip so that our children and grandchildren will have the same chance at a great life that you and i have enjoyed, chris.

>> right, but the question is still, even with that goal, whether or not you're going to risk that security for these families in the furtherance of that goal. you said yourself that you signed onto the bill for the full faith and credit cart to make sure we never ever default, that the markets need to know that under no circumstances will the u.s. government default. you know as well as anybody that that is exactly the situation you put the u.s. economy into if you blow the deadline and start letting the dominos fall. don't you have to stand against it if that winds up being the choice? >> i don't think that's what's going to happen. that's the point. this isn't just the house republicans. this is a three-sided triangle. the president and harry rude -- reid have had one position. don't forget it's people in the white house that said they were willing to risk blowing the debt ceiling if it meant they could win. we don't see this as a political gain. we show that trying to get america's house back in order so

that's why we will see republican leadership at the white house today and we want to be able to get this solved. this is very real. this is about the next generation, and that's why we've got to make sure that our answer isn't bringing the american economy down because remember the credit rating agencies when they lowered america's credit rating they said that congress and the president are not serious about tackling our debt. we in the house republicans are serious about tackling the debt problem. we need to have the president as a part of that conversation. that's why i'm encouraging cnn, put your debt clock on the screen so people can see the very real problem that we're accumulating every single day and let's get it done. >> i'm going to put a third clock on there, that is the countdown to the middle of next week when we hit the deadline because i'd love to have you back on, congresswoman, if we wind up blowing that deadline you know what it means and i'm going to be very interested in whered leadership and where your head is on that decision. >> i'll take that date. thanks, chris. >> thank you for joining "new

day." appreciate it. kate over to you. up to date on breaking news overnight, the abduction of libya's prime minister, ali zadan was taken from a tripoli hotel. group of armed rebels say it was responsible. cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson has the latest from tripoli. >> reporter: eight hours the prime minister was held by this militia, the 100 heavily armed gunmen that kidnapped him from his hotel in the early hours of the morning, sanctioned by libyan lawmakers to act as law enforcing arm of the government. it really does tell you all you need to know about tripoli at the moment that the government is not fully in control. this is a weak government and underscores what libyan ministers are telling me they're concerned that the arrest of al libi over the weekend would lead to a backlash from islamists.

the prime minister is free, underscoring as well the importance of moving those 200 marines from their base in spain to italy to be much closer to support the u.s. embassy here on the realization many of the armed militias close to al qaeda. back to you, kate, chris? >> nic, thank you for that. we'll keep following that story. let's get to the other stories with michaela. >> a car bomb detonating in the sinai peninsula, killing four soldiers and injuring five others. temporary freeze has been put in place on some military aid to egypt, because of the military too coo that ousted president mohammed mosri. two men are suffering severe burns after an accident during the annual hot air balloon festival in albuquerque, new mexico. they crashed into power lines,

the balloon caught fire and plunged 40 feet to the ground. mark kilgore was released from the hospital and the other is still hospitalized. the usda is threatening to close three california chicken processing plants connected with salmonella salmonella outbreak. foster farms has until today to explain how it will fix the problems at the plant. the outbreak sickened hundreds so far in 18 states. some strains are showing resistance to antibiotics. apparently the year 2047 could be a real scorcher, a new study on global warming pinpointing probable dates for extreme climate dates. kingston, jamaica off the charts, singapore following suit in 2028, mexico city in 2031 and phoenix and honolulu in 2043. i've been quickly doing the math to figure out how old i'd be.

the study concludes the whole world will experience unprecedented permanently hotter environments by the year 2047. concerning when they actually put the numbers and the dates on the calendar. >> gets you thinking. >> makes you think. >> now it's real, once it's on the calendar. speaking of weather let's get over to indra to get a quick check of the forecast this morning. >> we're still talking about the storm that's expected to really linger all weekend long if you're in the mid-atlantic or the northeast. you see it right now around d.c., moving in through philly and now in through new york and the big story will not just be how much rain you're getting but also the winds, seeing strong winds coming out of the northeast, gusting as high as 45 miles per hour. so cold, wet, and windy as we go through the weekend. as long as you see this pattern here, that high and low close to each other you'll talk about the winds. look at the timing, looking at the pattern for the next several days. anywhere from three to five

inches of rain possible into the mid-atlantic making its way out of the carolinas and should clear up by the end of the week. if you want to see it day by day, this is what it looks like on thursday, already into the mid-atlantic by friday, moving a little bit farther north but not much. we're still looking at this even by the time it takes you through saturday pretty much in the same region so that's going to be the biggest concern again we're talking about temperatures also well below normal, a lot of 50s as your highs whereas a few days ago overnight lows, pretty much the same temperature overnight and during the day. >> flip flopped. thanks, indra. coming up on "new day," hannah anderson's stunning story, talking about being drugged, forced to play russian roulette and why she didn't try to escape. more on that coming up. plus a hospital mystery we've been following, a patient disappears and then is found dead in a stairwell days later. we have new details this morning. i'm a careful investor. when you do what i do, you think about risk.

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welcome back to "new day." hannah anderson is speaking out this morning, she is revealing startling new details about that week long ordeal. the california teen was kidnapped in august by a family friend after her mother and brother were murdered. here is what she had to say just moments ago on nbc's "today" show. >> in the hospital when i got there, the next night they came in and told me that they died and that jim was dead, too, and it kind of just didn't seem real, and i just thought about it for a second and then i just broke down. i miss them so much. sometimes it's like i wait for

them to get home and then they're not there. >> to break this down, let's talk with dr. robi ludwig, sigh though therapist and author of "'til death do us part." she's such a young girl. >> yes. >> we're so acutely aware of the trauma she's experienced. how real can it be for her? she says it doesn't seem real. >> i think that's what happens when something that's so traumatic and unimaginable. you're in denial and the body breaks down in a way to deal with it psychologically. so i think we see the real 16-year-old girl here who's struggling understandably so. she she went through is horrible because her trust was detrade. this was not some random stranger. this as she said during the interview was her father's best friend. this was a trusted family member, so not only is she dealing with the loss of her mother and brother but it was at the hands of somebody who she

trusted. >> suffering multiple traumas along the way, breaking them down and the fact that she was also victimized, traumatizing in its own right. >> traumatizing in its own right and hannah has put herself out there, she's had to deal with doubters, people saying why didn't you just run away. common question. >> she's on the "today" show today. she's taken to social media. lot of people different generations might say why is this child not at home with her loving family and not sort of grieving out loud? >> what i like about hannah is she is a connector. >> yes, she is. >> when you are traumatized they say talk about it, process it, anything you can talk about then can get healed so she's using social media like many 16-year-olds do, and this trauma happened very publicly, so she's using the media also as a way to validate her story and to gain control over what happened to her by telling her story. >> is there a concern how fragile she is.

the hareation exists in the twittersphere? >> as a mental health professional i would help hannah understand, talk to the media while you can, but understand the media may not always be there. >> might be nurturing now but you have to take responsibility for the healing process which is lifelong. if she can use the media to tell her story and somehow in the future advocate for future victims, then she can really turn this around for herself and other people. >> we also heard her speak of some letters that were discovered showing there was communication between her and diimagine d dimaggio. >> a year ago my mom and dad split up and me and him didn't gate long and i was having problems with her and i wouldn't have anyone to talk about it with me and him instead of talking face-to-face, if we didn't have time or calling,

we'd write letters back and forth talking about the situation and how to get through it. >> might have seemed healthy then but chilling now to know of that relationship. >> hindsight is always 20/20 but here was a young girl reaching out to an adult who really abused his power. even if hannah had a crush on this man, basically james dimaggio abused his position of trust, and he might have been attracted to her, i'm sure that he was and didn't know what to do with those feelings and really turned out to be an unhealthy man and handled it in a very lethal way. >> she had a chance to meet some of the rescuers, the horseback riders who ultimately alerted police about her and i know that's been a very healing thing and you agree that's been a healing thing for her. >> i think that this is positive. she gets to meet the people who saw something wrong, who saw that she was not in a good place and that there was something not right about the picture, so it's nice to know that people in the community can observe and notice

when something's not right, say something, do something. say something, see something, do something, they did that and they are basically responsible for her survival. >> she's a very young girl, important to remember that. dr. robi ludwig we appreciate you talking to us about what we're seeing. >> she has a long road ahead, she has a lot of strength there so we wish her luck. >> we sure do. kate, chris, over to you. >> thanks, miki michaela. coming up next she played dead in order to live. the woman who survived the mall massacre in kenya talks to cnn's anderson cooper about the terrifying experience and where she goes from here, anderson is joining us live ahead. i was made to work. make my mark with pride. create moments of value. build character through quality.

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welcome back to "new day," thursday october 10th. time for the five things you need to know for your new day. number one, both parties meeting spraptly with president obama this afternoon. house republicans reportedly working on a plan to increase the debt limit for six weeks. jack lew is testifying before congress this morning warning of a government default. libya's prime minister has been released after being kidnapped by militants in tripoli. there were concerns it was done in retaliation from the capture of al libi. a seventh bike ear rested, a 31-year-old brooklyn man, will be in court today. the captain will address the national press club this afternoon, he's been under fire for his account of the 2009

hijacking of "alabama" now the subject of a film staring the one and only tom hanks. be sure to go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. kate? >> thank you, michaela. she pretended to be dead and that may be what saved elaine dang's life. the 26-year-old found herself caught in the cross-fire. that's a photo of her. anderson cooper joins us this morning. remarkable and terrifying story she tells. >> she was at the mall to judge a children's cooking class and she was on the roof of the mall in a parking garage structure where they set up some tents when she heard an explosion and i talked to her, i talked to her mom, leanne and her sister, mary as well and she explained what she went through over the next

couple hours. listen. >> i actually fell on top of a lady and then people fell on top of me and so our legs were sticking out and as we were here i heard more shooting and then the lady that i was on top of was shot so she screamed "i've been shot" and there started to be blood everywhere. >> what's going through your mind? were you panicked? >> yes, my first instinct was shaky and panicked and i thought i need to focus and i need to assess the situation and figure out what i need to do and my head i was thinking there needs to be an answer to this. for me it was like this is not it. keep on thinking and find a way out. i was thinking my goodness if surrender, apologize i could be free. i was preparing myself to surrender and another woman did it before me and i saw her do this and get up and then she was shot. i was thinking i can't die.

and my brother was the first person i thought of then my sister and my mother and everyone else and i said this cannot be it. >> it's hard for to you hear this, isn't it? >> very hard. >> did you see what was happening on tv? did you know that she was there? >> my older daughter, she told me. i thought it's dreaming, i thought can't be. she told me got shot i said oh my god. i didn't know what happened to my daughter, you know? yeah, if it happened to her, i don't think i can live, and yes, she's okay >> she's very strong. you raised a very strong daughter. >> yes. >> i go back and forth between like was i really there or because when i talk about it, i talk about it like sometimes i'm very removed from the situation, but when i see the photograph and other photos of victims or

people that i knew, that's when i realize i was there. >> wow. you see there in the interview it's not just trauma for her she's dealing with, it's her whole family is dealing with it. >> and elaine remained what's interesting, remained calm during the whole thing, she was thinking very rationally which helped her to survive. three people were shot who she was -- >> right there. >> hiding with, she saw a woman get up, surrender and that woman was shot as well. >> that's what i found most chilling. she was so analytical, like you were saying, what should i do to survive and she thought of that option. >> right. she almost was -- she saw say guy get up surrender and walk away and she was about to do that, preparing to do that and saw a woman do that, get up and she got shot. so it's amazing that she was able to survive. >> did she talk about her recovery and where she goes from there? >> yes, she had shrapnel, a gas can exploded and she originally thought she had been shot and

that's why she had blood in the picture but turns out it was just shrapnel from the gas canister. she had some removed from her chest. she still has shrapnel in her leg, she has medical bills and we have a link on ac306.com if people want to help out with her medical bills. >> shoo z she talk about leaving to get back here, how that ordeal. >> worked? >> she ended up in nairobi general hospital in nairobi. i've been in it myself and she got treatment there and able to get back to san diego. she wants to come back. >> she's a lucky woman, smart as well. anderson will stick with us, a tragic story with a happy ending but a happy story and a happy day because we get to talk about this year's cnn heroeheroes, th people who make a difference in the world, talking about cnn

heroes the top ten honorees this year. and how about a dose of the good stuff, we have anderson here, a double dose of the good stuff, today's edition to shut down washington, got quite a sight yesterday. man outside the lincoln memorial tackled the mother of all mowing jobs with his own lawn mow are. chris cox from south carolina he was shocked to see our national monuments fall into disrepair. he went with his lawn tools, emptying trash cans and mowing. why is he doing all of this? listen. >> it's up to us at the end of the day the citizens are the stewards of the memorials. there's no reason that we can't have our open air memorials open. as far as i'm concerned this in emreel is open. we have the tourists. we have security. we have our veterans, and if i have anything to say about it, we have maintenance, and security. and i'd like to encourage all americans to come forth and to

find a memorial to bring a trash bag and a rake. >> then comes the difference between government and people like chris. unfortunately, what he's doing while laudable is technically illegal. the park service asked him to stop. one officer said the quickest way to get the regular guys back on the job is to not clean the monuments up so people see it and demand something chiange. >> talk about backwards logic. >> he was doing the right thing and it's an important reminder, people often have to take control of the situation for the government to listen and we applaud him. thank you for doing that chris. >> not ease ye to bring your lawnmower. how do you get it there? >> and where do you keep your lawnmower while you're going -- all of these logistics. >> many questions. >> anderson's next assignment, trying to get a lawnmower on a plane. coming up next on "new day" weeks after a patient goes missing from a california hospital, her body is found in

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welcome back. officials confirmed the identity of a woman confirmed dead at a san francisco house. lynn spaulding's body was discovered inside a rarely used stairwell. her family is demanding answers. dan simon is live in san francisco with the latest. good morning, dan. >> good morning, kate. this was just a random find. this was a member of the hospital's engineering staff who just happened upon this body. as you can imagine people who knew lynn spaulding are very much in disbelief and you can hear the anger in their voices. >> i just want to know that this

would never happen to anyone else. >> reporter: raw emotions as friends of lynn spalding criticized the hospital. she vanished three weeks before from her hospital room. we know why a frantic search generated no credible leads because spalding may have been dead or dying in that stairwell the whole time. >> there are so many places around here someone could hide or go or be disoriented or in harm's way. >> reporter: embarrassed staff could provide little in the way of real answers. >> we are here to take care of patients, to heal them, to keep them safe. this has shaken us to our core. our staff is devastated. >> reporter: lynn spalding the mother of two with a thick british accent was admitted to the hospital on september 19th for a serious infection. two days later she was nowhere to be found. 15 minutes after being checked on by a nurse.

the family recalls her room on the fifth floor highlighted by this box. the red arrow showing where her body was discovered one floor below in a fire escape. when spalding walked through the doors to the fire escape the hospital says they would have automatically looked behind her, the only way out to find the exit to the hospital grounds. >> we're not here to throw anybody under the bus. >> reporter: a family spokesman questioned why no one looked in the fire escape. >> lynn spalding died alone in a stairwell and her body was there for 17 days. >> reporter: people have been asking whether or not the family is going to file a lawsuit against the hospital. i think that's certainly an appropriate question to ask but the family spokesman says it's too early to raise those questions after all they're just beginning to grieve. chris, back to you. >> thank you very much for the reporting this morning. we'll take a break here on "new day." when we come back, they are everyday people who are changing the world and you're about to meet the best of the best,

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the couch. each week people making the world a better place to live. >> we talk about people who aren't doing their jobs and now we talk about people who go above and beyond. fun and big announcement revealing the top ten cnn heroes of 2013, anderson tried to get away, we wouldn't let him go, he's shackled in to the couch. who are they? >> the great thing i love about cnn heroes, these are everyday people who change the world, people who see a need in the community and set about trying to fix it, not waiting for somebody else to do it, not looking for recognition. 'nice to recognize these people. we get thousands of nominations from our viewers all over the world. we whittled it down to the top ten, we finally selected the top ten cnn heroes, and here they are. from statesville, north carolina, dale beatty, after losing his legs in the iraq war, he was embraced by his hometown and then he decided to pay it

forward. today he's modified or helped provide homes for more than two dozen disabled veterans. from berkeley, california, dr. laura stachel using solar power to help deliver babies safely. since 2009 her solar suitcases helped save lives in more than 20 countries. >> isn't that beautiful? >> from trenton, new jersey, danielle gletow, a fairy godmother for foster children across the u.s., since 2009 she's made thousand of their wishes come true. >> how are you, class? >> fine. >> from nairobi kenya, kakenya ntaiya opened a primary school for girls in her village, educating and inspiring more than 150 women. from camden, new jersey, tawanda jones, from one of the poorest cities in the country her drill team provides discipline and inspiration to children of all

ages. 4,000 of her students have graduated from high school, a 100% success rate >> are you ready? yeah! sfr east moline, illinois, chad pregrakke, keeping america's rivers clean. his team removed more than 7 million pounds of garbage in 22 waterways across the country. >> all right let's get on board. from west palm beach, there are,'s still ta pyfrom, the 76-year-old grandmother poured her savings into a mobile computer lab, she's bringing technology and tutoring to more than 2,000 low income children and adults. ready to go? all right. from san diego, california, richard nares, helping low income children get to their cancer treatments giving them more than 2,500 free rides a year. from cameroon, dr. george bwe e

bwelle, and from charlotte, north carolina, robin eons, she's grown more than 26,000 pounds of fresh produce for underserved residents her community. want to congratulate all of our top ten cnn heroes. each get $50,000 and also have a chance to become the cnn hero of the year. that person gets an additional $250,000 to continue their work and that's the money that can really help some of the heroes take the work to the next level. some have sacrificed a lot, worked on their own for years without a paycheck, the financial recognition can make all the difference and it's up to viewers now to decide. >> that's the important thing. >> voting opens today and anybody can go to cnnheroes.com to vote. you can vote once a day every day all the way through, this airs december 1st at 8:00 p.m.,

where we will announce the cnn hero of the year. >> every year you fall in love with all of these people and just how big their hearts are and what they can offer. is there a most memorable? it's impossible -- >> every year, they're all incredible people and each one of them is worthy of winning. >> exactly. >> i like that it's up to our viewers to really make the decision, and as it should be, and it always sometimes surprise me see. sometimes it's someone you don't expect out of the ten, you think oh this person may be a front-runner just because of i don't know where they're from, but we never know who is going to get into n that. >> you know what i love about people in my experience, these types of folks, they're so very selfle selfless, they are not very comfortable with the spotlight and oftentimes it's hard to get them to talk about themselves. >> yes. but it's nice to have a night to honor them and put the spotlight on them, celebrities come out and honor all of them >> this is fun to batch. >> you can vote for more than

one or no? >> you can vote for anybody you want. you can only vote once a day but you can vote every day so once a day every day for whoever you want. >> vote early and often. what is nice about it is that it's putting emphasis on the right place. doing the job for a while we often get painted in the media what we decide to focus on and that's the beautiful thing about heroes it's focusing on the right things even if it's one night the effect lasts. >> this $250,000, first they get all $50,000 and additional $250,000 if they're named the hero of the year by our viewers, that can -- >> $250,000. >> it sha-- take their work to e other level. >> 501-c3 they end up getting matching grantsds a and you gete money. >> danielle gletow is a foster mom, saw a need that foster kids often didn't have even small things, they didn't have money to get a yearbook or clothes in the beginning of the school year

and she started this website that people could volunteer, people could give to fulfill small wishes from foster kids and it makes a huge difference. >> the other thing i love about this, it's infectious. it inspires you, that's our hope it inspires you, in just a small way. look at the solar backpack, simple idea, simple concept but life changing. >> it's amazing. >> now you get the word out there, if somebody wants they find an organization and help out the people with their good work. >> thanks, anderson. i was inspired. it's a great day to have anderson here. we'll be back after a break. go vote! ♪

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