in "the situation room." thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. "news room" continues right now with brooke baldwin. right now, behind closed doors, president obama is meeting with house democrats, and later, house republicans. are we close to a deal? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. let the stock market crash. that idea from a columnist who says it's the only way to get congress to do something. plus, a cnn exclusive. accident or murder? cnn investigates a shocking discovery inside a teenager's body. >> when we got the body for the second autopsy, that organs, the heart, lungs, liver, et cetera, were not with the body. >> in their place, newspaper. we're on the case. and -- >> somebody please help me.

please. >> his 9-year-old son hopped a plane without a ticket. should someone have helped this dad? hi, there, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. this partial government shutdown now in the double digits, folks, day ten. but today, a possible break in this impasse, at least when it comes to the country's ability to pay its bills. the debt ceiling and the game of chicken, well, we could be on the verge of a deal. >> so what we want to do is offer the president today the ability to move. a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to reopen the government and to start to deal with america's pressing problems. >> translation, extending the

debt ceiling. the white house says the president is apparently happy about the offer. we can tell you that right now he's behind closed doors, meeting with house democrats to discuss that. the deal, of course, still has to get through the house and the senate. so to be clear about what's on the table here. this deal would push back the debt ceiling for six weeks, letting the country pay its bills. so i know the question you want answered, what happens during the six weeks? a lot of talks, we hope. about what, you ask? to quote what you just heard from house speaker jon boehner, quote, some of america's pressing issues. the specifics of the pressing issues, that is still unclear. could be the spending bill. could be entitlements. could be obama care, but at least for now, the government stays at least partially shut down. so, to wall street we go because you can see the numbers. it's a pretty awesome day so far. the markets are up just about 240 points as we watch with two hours left to go. let's check in with alison kosik

standing by for us at the new york stock exchange. maybe with the possibility of this short-term deal, markets looking pretty good. >> looking pretty good. the bulls are out, the gains are sticking at least for now. most of the session over, a breakthrough in washington means a breakthrough in wall street. they're happy to hear about the temporary deal in works and that political leaders are playing nice in the sandbox, and in the middle of this, the warnings about what could happen. they keep rolling in. the latest from jack lew, testifying before the senate finance committee earlier this morning, basically saying the stock market could tumble, borrowing money could become very expensive for americans to do a lot of thicks buzz what you would end up seeing are interest rates spieging, borrowing costs going up. causing people and businesses to spend less, making the economy weaker. if the six-week extension goes through, the problem here, it only kicks the can down the

road. wall street knows what's on the line. if this seems familiar, it is, because we were back here in 2011. lawmakers ended up raising the debt ceiling, but the problem was they took it down to the wire and our crediteral rating downgraded. the dow tanked 600 days the day that happened. the hope it that doesn't happen this time. >> thank you. we're watching the markets closely. we'll check back in. meantime, a fast-moving thursday. a potential deal as we have been reporting on the table to break the threat of a possible u.s. default, all be it temporarily. house republicans are due at the white house a little later on, in just about an hour and a half from now. the house republican leadership is offering up a deal to let the u.s. government borrow money for six more weeks. in return, the republicans want talks on these pressing problems. again, these are the words we're hearing from them, pressing problems facing you, the americans. michael hirsh is with us, and so is david serota.

michael hurch is the chief correspondent for the national journal, and david is a national radio host. michael, let me begin with you because your latest column, we were going to ask about the blinking. who exactly just blinked in the debt ceiling showdown? i know americans say i don't care, i just want to deal, but you say it's a photo finish. why? >> because both president obama and speaker boehner are blinking at about the same time. and we're going to see how it plays out over the next few hours. who actually is blinking more. but basically, boehner is offering obama a haf loaf, as it were, i'll give you the debt ceiling for another six weeks and that's all, but i'm not going to give you the shutdown being over just yet until you agree to negotiate. and obama is bringing him into the white house, talking. but it's kind of a non-negotiation negotiation from obama's point of view because he doesn't want to admit he's doing any actual negotiating.

there's a lot of kabuki dancing going on here, and it's difficult to say who is giving up more at this particular moment in time, but they clearly are each moving somewhere. >> this is what it's coming down to, david. the blinking, who do you think is doing more blinking, more kabuki dancing? >> i think this is actually, and i say this, i'm lamenting this, but i think this is a huge conservative win. i think when you look at what's really being negotiated here, we remember only what was it, three, four, five months ago, when sequestration spending levels were considered really controversial, really, really conservative. could the country survive them? now sequestration spending levels and government size levels, those are the norm. those are what president obama is essentially begging for. and he said he's willing to accept as the normal now. so speaking boehner and the right have actually orchestrated this situation where they have used the threat of a government shutdown and a debt default to normalize spending levels that were previously very recently

considered way too radical for the country. >> so maybe the bar is shifting, as you limit -- david, let me stay with you. let's say, and again, we don't know, but let's say we get this agreement, they kick this default down the road six or so weeks. that lands up in december, fine. but the president still says he is not going to negotiate ever when it comes to the government paying its bills. here's jay carney talking just about an hour ago. >> we haven't seen anything from the house republicans yet. the president believes they ought to pay our bills. the president believes they ought to turn on the lights, and the president has always been willing to negotiate and work out and find common ground with republicans over our long-term budget priorities, but he's not -- again, going back to the assertion they're going to use punishing the american people as leverage, doing harm to the american economy as leverage, that's unacceptable to the

president. i think he's made that clear. >> so david, if the deal comes together, really,dize anything change other than the date of a potential default, because i know americans watching are thinking how is the conversation we're having today going to be any different than the one in six weeks? >> i think that's a great question. you're right to ask it. we will end up being here in six weeks because i think what jay carney has articulated is the fact the republican party is willing to bring us to the brink of a debt default, which means bringing potentially the economy to its knees in order to get its way. the real question, the unanswered question is not whether we're going to be here in six weeks or not. the unanswered question is what do the republicans actually want? do they want an end to a bouma care, is that it? or do they want lower spending levels than sequestration? it's not clear what they're actually even demanding as a concrete end to all of this. >> right. if you read the op-ed from paul ryan yesterday in the wall street journal, no mention of

obama care. we'll hear the talking. michael, we heard david gergen saying he doesn't even think the short-term extension will fly based on the fact the white house continues to say absolutely no negotiating. what do you think? >> i think the big negotiation today in these meetings is going to be whether boehner will also agree to an extension on the shutdown issue, that is to open up the government again for another six weeks. and if boehner does give that up, i think obama will accept it, but that's going to be a tough negotiation because right now, it looks like the leverage is with boehner. if obama just signs this deal on the debt ceiling and the government continues to shut down, then he's still negotiating under the gun, as it were. >> david and michael, i mean this in the nicest way possible. i don't want you two back here in six weeks. coming up, more confusion about the sign-up for obama care. hear what some customer service operators told americans trying to sign up.

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nthat's why they deserve... aer anbrake dance.. get 50% off new brake pads and shoes. kendrick johnson would have turned 18 years old today. i say would have because kendrick johnson was the young man whose body was found inside that rolled up gym mat at his high school in georgia. his death first ruled an accident, now it points more and more to a murder mystery.

today, kendrick's parent stood on the courthouse steps. here they were, and that's his father. he spoke about how this first birthday is incredibly difficult without his son. >> a feeling that we wish no other parents here have to go through. because kendrick was the light of the family. and then we had to wake up and see that he's no longer with us. and understand, you know, why they didn't give my son any justice. i walk into his room and i kiss his picture and say happy birthday, kendrick. you know, his dreams, memories, will always be with us. they won't ever leave us. >> victor blackwell has been investigating this from the start. he joins us from valdosta, georgia. victor, my mind is never far from these parents because i cannot imagine losing a child

and then learning as you have discovered in your investigation, losing your child, burying this child, but learning you only buried half of him. >> brooke, it's a heartbreaking discovery. for the last seven and a half months or so, kendrick johnson's and their supporters have sat on this corner in downtown valdosta across from the judicial center to demand answers about how kendrick johnson died. now after our discovery, they have questions about what happened after he died. it's the second time jacqueline johnson cried next to her son kendrick's grave. the first time, he was being lowered into the ground. this time, he's being pulled out of it. >> did you ever expect you would have to exhume his body. >> no, i didn't expect to have to bury his body. >> in june, kendrick's body was sent to florida. the johnsons hired dr. bill anderson to conduct an independent second autopsy. in that autopsy, anderson told

the johnsons he found evidence that he died as a result of a blow to the neck and not accidental asphyxia after slipping into a rolled gym mat at school as investigators said. but what he didn't find shocked him. >> when we got the body for the second autopsy, the organs, the heart, lungs, liver, et cetera, were not with the body. >> the brain? >> the brain. they were all absent. >> every organ from the top of kendrick's head to his pelvis, gone. and his family had no idea. >> we have been let down again. and when we buried kendrick, we thought we were burying kendrick. not half of kendrick. >> i'm not sure at this point who did not return the organs to the body. but i know when we got the body, the organs were not there. >> so cnn contacted the two entities who had custody of kendrick's body and access to his organs, the georgia bure au

of investigation which conducted the first autopsy in january, and harrington funeral home, which the johnsons chose to embalm and prepare kendrick's body for burial days later. a spokeswoman for the state tells cnn after its autopsy, the organs were placed in johnson's body, the body was closed, then the body was released to the funeral home. state investigators say it's their normal practice, but what happened after his body arrived at the funeral home was anything but normal. >> what was in the place of the organs? >> newspaper. >> newspaper? >> dr. anderson showed me the pictures of kendrick's body he had taken during the second autopsy. >> that's a black friday ad, j krc penny ad. >> yes. >> stuffing newspaper in like he was a garbage can inside his body.

unbelievable. >> i would imagine that that's a different kind of pain. >> yeah. >> why do you think there would be newspaper stuffed in your child? >> i never heard of that before. never. >> neither had the founder of a national embalming academy contacted by cnn who says it's not consistent with the standards of care in the industry. nor had the president of the national association of medical examiners, who told cnn he's never heard of this practice. why would the funeral home discard his organs and stuff him with newspaper? >> the question is why didn't he tell us? >> so what exactly did the harrington funeral home do with kendrick's organs and why was he stuffed with old newspaper? we went to their office to find out, but their response to us, no comment. however, in a letter to the johnsons' attorney, harrington funeral homeowner antonio harrington denies he received his organs. he writes in point, his internal organs were destroyed through natural process and henceforth

were discarded before the body was sent back to valdosta. it's another disappointing answer for parents determined to know what happened to their son before and now after his death. and they admit they're struggling. >> unbearable, just about. all the things, it wakes you up in the morning, you keep pushing. >> and when the state of georgia heard about our investigation, the georgia secretary of state's office, which offers licenses to funerals homes, they opened their own investigation. they want to know what happened to kendrick johnson's organs and they want to know more from harrington funeral home about this practice of stuffing bodies with newspapers. so the state of georgia is now investigating harrington funeral home. brooke. >> what about, and victor, i know i have asked you this before. but if we're talking about a school and a gym where his body was found, there had to have been surveillance cameras. i know some of the footage is being withheld. what is the family saying about

that? >> well, through their attorney, their new attorney, who has joined the team, benjamin crump, who maybe you recognize his name. he represented the parents of trayvon martin. he said the surveillance camera is the one eyewitness, objective eyewitness who saw what happened. and they believe that either it shows what the sheriff's office said, that kendrick went into the mat alone and this was an accident, or as the parents and their attorneys believe, there was some type of foul play, but i'll also tell you there is another person who has this video that we've asked for, but have been denied access to. it's u.s. attorney michael moore. he's released a statement to cnn. i'll read part of it. he says the memory of this young man calls us to continue to be deliberate and thoughtful in this case. this is about getting to the facts and to the truth. he continues his investigation. he's had these files and documents for several months. and he says he doesn't feel rushed about coming to a decision about investigating or not. he wants to get it right, brooke. >> keep asking questions, victor

blackwell. keep asking them. thank you so much. live in valdosta, georgia. >> beyonce, she already thinks it, but as another woman gets ready to rise to one of the world's most powerful positions, it's a legitmous question, we'll discuss it. >> and i'll talk to one man who says, hey, let the stock market crash. it's the only way to get congress to get its act together. ♪

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women are in charge of powerful parts of the planet. you know, more and more women these days are running entire countries, entire corporations, and perhaps beyonce has it right. run the world, girls. ♪ girls, we run this mother ♪ girls who run the world ♪ ♪ girls who run the world >> for example, take a look with me. in politics, angela merkel leads germany. she's one of the most powerful leaders in all of of europe. in media, oprah winfrey may be

the most famous media mogul of all time, and in the tech world, you have marissa mayer, sheryl sandburg, in fashion, the mighty vogue editor, anna wintour has dominated for decades without apology, and now you have a milestone for women in power. janet yellen nominated to run the federal reserve. so yellen would be the first female fed chair. one of the most influential policy making roles in the world. so let's bring in fellow woman, cnn's your money host christine romans. let's talk janet yellen and her realm of influence. why are some people saying she could be the most powerful woman in the world? >> well, they're saying she's the most qualified fed chief nominee ever. >> wow. >> this is a woman who had all kinds of really great jobs. very well respected. interesting that when she started working at the fed, she went and ate with everybody else in the fed cafeteria where she

met her husband, by the way, instead of in the executive dining room like people in her position did before. she's someone who is really relatable, very smart, very smart, i mean, really smart. and she is someone everyone likes. this is someone who i think is going to continue the policies of ben bernanke and is probably going to be the most powerful woman in the world because she's going to have to unwind all of the stimulus into the economy. that's going to be tricky. she's going to be the one doing it. >> it's interesting, you talk about she went to the cafeteria and listened. that's what people say about women, they're listeners. what do you think? i don't want to, you know, make a blanket statement about women here, but in terms of, you know, styles, decision making processes, listening, what makes them different, you think, in the boardroom? >> so interesting that you say that because i have interviewed a lot of women specifically in wall street and corporate america over my career, and the women who were really at the pinnacles of their careers, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, they

said they got there by acting like men, by playing the game like men. but now, now for the first time, you're seeing women who are at the very top, and they did it on their own terms. they had their children. they ran the business the way they wanted to. and i think it's changing. i think you could run a company, you can run a government. and you can run maybe the money supply of the united states and it's not because you necessarily have to think the way people did before you. but you just have to be the smartest, the best, the fastest, the most nimble, and you could be a woman or man, doesn't matter now. >> look at you and your success, christine, as a mom, a mentor, someone in this business. i look to you, look to other women, and i'm a true believer in women helping women in business to be successful. i have to wonder in the cut-throat wall street media financial worlds, are these women blazing the trails for themselves? or are they helping other women come up behind them? >> i'm so glad you asked that. and i'm so glad you said you

think i help. i like that. that's nice to hear. there was always this term mentorship. you had to find a good mentor, right? somebody who could show her how to take the leadership roles or how to do her job better or how to fit into a hierarchy who was dominated by men who were leaders and the most successful. now you hear about sponsorship. women need sponsors, not mentors. someone who's going to reach down and say i want you to be my colleague. i want you on this project because that's how men for many years have kept their close allies, people who think like them, people who they can work with closely, be more productive. they would sponsor them, not mentor them. sponsor them, so you're hearing about women spaunrnsers other women. >> we have to help other women. meant what i said. thank you very much. the dow is rebounding today after a month of losses. take a look. we're very in the green. up 229 points here. great news for investors. but is the good news for solving the crisis in washington? how does this play out?

our next guest says no. he wrote a caughtm entitled "why america needs a stock market crash." why? we'll ask. >> plus more confusion over obama care sign-ups. this time, customer reps were telling people their passwords were deleted. we'll explain what happened. ?hña @8@x

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help the nation, so says my next guest, john cassidy. he penned this auralccartical i new yorker saying why america needs a stock market crash. just to put this in perspective, you write this. if the market fell by 300 or 400 points for three days in a row and then lurched down even 1,000 points, the effect would be sal uitary, beneficial. once it ed tanking, they would besiege congress for action. i'm not disagreeing with the final point, but why do we need the crash for this to happen? >> look what has happened today. we're going to have supposedly a solution, temporary solution, six weeks increase in the debt limit which is only going to extent the crisis for six more weeks to thanksgiving and we're going to be back exactly where we are today. quite possibly, the government is going to be shut down then. in my view, what is happening in

washington, what is happening, especially the republicans, they're behaving like high school students. historically, it's been shown one thing that can stimulate minds on wall street is a conniption, but something like 1,000-point fall or something, it would concentrate minds there and might be a better outcome. the market would come back, remember, once the problem was solved. it wouldn't stay down forever. >> i understand. i understand what you're saying. at the same time, i liken this to maybe driving along in a car and let's say you're driving a little too fast, pedal to the metal. you don't have your seat belt on and you have the potential for a fatal collision. you have the potential for this fatality and you learn either from someone dying or not, we don't know that, ie, default, you need to buckle your seat belt. why do we need to have the potential for the crash? >> look at the last few weeks. washington can't get its act

together. the republicans in particular think they can act without any real consequences for the economy or for the markets. and so far, that's been true. the market just looks upon it as so far as a sort of kabuki dance. it's down a couple hundred points but nothing serious. if it did start to crash, the stock market, people in washington would be besieged by their investors, by big banks, and it would force them to act seriously and do something about it. remember, if we don't do anything about it and we do get back to a debt ceiling crisis and get close to a default, there's a likely h lalihood of crash. what i'm saying is taking a hit now, we might well be more preferable than going right up to the brink and risking a major crash, not just in the stock market, but in the bond markets, the dollar. we really could have a financial meltdown if washington doesn't get its act together eventually. >> let's hope not. thank you for joining me.

and in addition to this shutdown and debt ceiling, we have also all week long been looking into obama care enrollment across the country, and today we learned about people, the fact they may have been told there were problems with their website passwords. apparently, that's not totally the case. elizabeth cohen here with the details. the gal i talked about issues getting on and now there's issues with passwords or not? >> so you and i are going into, what, day nine of me telling about my problems trying to sign in. >> tell me more about your problems. >> i'll tell you all my problems. i finally got a log in and a password and i went to log in and i can't log in, i can't log in, i can't log in. i call the 800-number they tell you to call, and they said, oh, you need to reset your password. i said, really, what did i do wrong? they said, no everybody. everybody has to call in and reset your password. this is the rep on the phone. i said, really? oh, my goodness. i hung up and called hhs, department of health and human services and said what's up with

this? they said, look, we were going to do an up grade to the system that would have deleted everyone's passwords. to prepare for it, we wrote a script for the reps, but we sent it to the woman we shouldn't have. so the reps received a script for something that never actually happened. >> so no need to fret. >> nobody needs to change their password, not me, not anyone, but i still can't get in. and every time i call, they say, try at a low volume time. i tried at 10:30 last night, i tried at 7:00 this morning. >> you need to set the alarm for the middle of the night. >> they said late at night, early in the morning. >> i'm sure your husband would love that. >> we're going to try that. i guess it's the only way to do it. some people have gotten in. one of my producers got in early in the morning. we heard from a viewer who got in at 2:00 in the morning, so it is happening, but it's tough. >> keep us posted. thank you. a blazon abduction. they abducted the prime minister of libya at a lushry hotel. he's rushed into this convoy of

cars and now new concerns about the safety of americans serving at our embassy there. [ coughs, sneezes ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. [ inhales deeply ] rep. rokita: obamacare hurts this country much more than any government shutdown. vo: reckless. rep. blackburn: people are probably going to realize... they can live with a lot less government. vo: destructive. rep. bachmann: this is about the happiest i've seen members in a long time. vo: the government shutdown is hurting veterans, seniors, and our kids. now tea party republicans are threatening... an economic shutdown. refusing to pay our nation's bills.

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doing fine after his kidnapping ordeal. even appeared to downplay his abduction, characterizing it as an internal problem. john kerry was briefed on the problem while traveling in malaysia. he said he was confident in the security for the u.s. embassy and security personnel in libya. >> next, her story captivated america. hannah anderson kidnapped by the man who killed her mother and brother and now she's revealing new details about his confessions to her and the deadly games of russian roulette he forced her to say. hear what else she has to say about her abduction, next. we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the two-thousand-fourteen subaru forester.

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handcuffs and bound with zip ties. encouraged to play russian roulette with a real gun. 16-year-old hannah anderson describes her kidnapping back in august in the back country of idaho by a much older family friend who police say killed her mother and brother and then burned down their house. this thing all started when james dimaggio pick eed hannah from cheerleading practice. i want you to watch what she told the "today" show. >> when i got into the house, he handcuffed me and zip tied me feet. he told me that he was going to kidnap me and take me to idaho where my intention was just to carry his backpacks to the river and that he was going to live there and then he would get me

home afterwards. after he told me the plan, he made me play russian roulette with him sitting on the couch. >> with a real gun? >> yeah. and when it was my turn, i started crying. and was like freaking out. and he said, do you want to play? i said, no. and i started crying. and then he was like, okay, and he stopped. >> also on the "today" show, she talked about dimaggio's feelings for her. >> he said, it's not that i don't want your friends up here. it's that i don't want to see you kissing your friends or anything like that because i have a crush on you. not a crush that, like, feeling a crush as in like family. i care about you. and it kind of seems like really weird. >> did you kind of try to keep your distance a little bit more? >> yeah, exactly. and he got upset about that and would always text me and say that i was rude and i was trying to stay out of his life.

>> psychologist wendy walsh joins me now. one other detail is hannah said dimaggio threatened to kill her or anyone who tried to help her if she tried to run. what do you make of the new details she's sharing and just her demeanor? >> and brooke, the other important piece, he actually forced her to take sleeping medication and drugged her for the entire trip to idaho, so she woke up in idaho. i think that the kind of manipulation he used, the game of russian roulette, the threats to her family, the drugging her. he was very shrewd in how he was going to control her. i think looking at this interview, brooke, it's the first time we're starting to see the real hannah anderson. a lot of the social media stuff and the funeral footage, i think she was in a kind of disassociated mode, and now we're starting to see some of the grieving. >> it's interesting you say disassociated bought that's my next question.

so we saw her at that funeral, not perhaps grieving maybe as much as one would think. again, she's this young woman, still all of this is very fresh for her, i imagine, but she's out there, wendy. she's doing these tv interviews, posting these pictures. you mentioned the social media. is that unusual behavior for a teenager who has been through such a traumatic event? >> it's not unusual behavior for a teenager. nowadays. i myself have a 15 1/2-year-old daughter, and i asked her, if you were having a tough time or something horrible happened to me, would you be online? she said, probably, that's how i get care from my friends, how we reach out to each other, how we talk. as hannah mentioned, she had been offline for an entire week. for a teenager, that's a major withdrawal. >> a whole week? >> a whole week. so she had to check back in. then when she saw the lies about her, remember, this is not somebody who is media savvy and she's a young person. you and i are used to getting the twitter hate, okay? the rest of the average person gets on and sees that and wants

to address it. they don't know how to ignore the trolls, so that's probably how it happened. >> so what's next? i mean, do you think for a teenager in this kind of position, does she just need to -- i think i try to put myself in someone's position and i can't imagine, but i think i want to go away and be quiet for myself and be with some of my family for as long as i can. say no to members of the media. >> well, her and her father did say in the "today" show interview they hope this will be the end. this will finally put to rest all the rumors, all the lies about what potentially happened to her. and also, they did not get into a lot of the graphic details, so they protected her in that way. and i think that this is now, they can get on with the proper grieving time they need. they mentioned they are getting help. that word to me tells me they're getting some therapy. that's really important right now. >> that's great. wendy walsh, thank you. coming up next, shocking new information about the death of ariel castro. he's the man who abducted the three girls in his cleveland

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this just in. a new report on the death of convicted kidnapper ariel castro

suggests he may not have died from suicide after all. but rather from autoerotic asphyxiation. ohio officials have released these new details about what they found in castro's cell the day he died. so according to this report, he was found hanging from the cell's window by a sheet wrapped around his neck. his pants and underwear were down around his ankles. and castro left no suicide note. so all of that led officials to believe he may not have intended to kill himself. our report also says the two guards responsible for checking in on ariel castro apparently falsified a number of posts in a log book. those officers were put on leave immediately following castro's death. and now, to some other stories making news. rapid fire, roll it. in midland, texas, a tractor trailer bottoms out on some train tracks and just watch what happened next.

oh. there go those pipes. obliterated, scattered everywhere. despite the nasty looking crash, we're told no one was hurt. and this wasn't exactly the thrill ride these folks signed up for. this is the tallest roller coaster at universal studios and it was stuck just like that. imagine being stuck 140 feet in the air, trapped. these folks were trapped for two hours. rescue teams and the fire department were called in. they were able to eventually pluck everyone off that ride. the park says a technical glitch caused a malfunction. the ride now back up and running. down it goes. demolition crews taking down the amelia earhart memorial bridge. this is the missouri river. spans from kansas to missouri. the bridge was built in 1938. coming up next, we are an hour and a half away from the

big meeting with house republicans at the white house. and i will talk to one of those republicans getting ready to meet with the president. will she bring up any demands? we'll ask. plus, a dad breaks down and begs for help after his 9-year-old son hops on a plane without a ticket. where do you go when you can't control your kids? we'll discuss that. stay right with me. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk.

three years ago, teenage race car driver ryan reid was on top of the world, he was training with nascar's drivers when suddenly, his life was

threatened by a diagnosis. dr. sanjay gupta introduces to him in this week's human factor. >> against all odds, 20-year-old ryan reid is living his dream. >> i've been a race car driver since i was 4 years old. >> that's when he won his first go-kart race, and hooked on the thrill of competition, reed hasn't looked back. he was just 17 when one of nascar's top drivers, kyle busch, recruited him for his development team. >> it was just like everything was falling right into place in my life, and nothing could stop me. >> but something did. >> i just remember i was really cranky and i remember being thisthis thirty-firsty a lot. i was using the bathroom frequently, losing a lot of weight. >> one of the first things his doctors checked, his blook sugar. >> over 300 fasting. >> that's about three times the normal level. he was diagnosed with type i diabetes, but even more

devastating than the diagnosis. >> they're like, ryan, you'll never race again. you have to focus on a healthy lifestyle. >> disbelief turned to rebellion. reed found a doctor willing to help him get back on the track. there had been adjustments. a new diet. he carries a special drink in his car that can boost his blood sugar. a wired sensor has been implanted in his abdomen that transmits his gloekose readings. there's a device mounted in his car that allows him to check his numbers in the race. >> how are your number snz. >> good, 120. maintaining. >> and his fire suit now sports a bull's eye. >> we have a guy who reaches through the window and gives me an insulin injection should i need it. >> he's never had to use any of the safeguards, not even a close call. reed made his debut in nascar's second biggest series april 26th and just last month he finished

in the top ten. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. and here we go. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. today, a beacon of hope. a possible end to this stalemate. at least when it comes to the country's ability to pay its bills. i'm talking about the debt ceiling and this proposal of an extension which would push back that looming deadline by six weeks. >> so what we want to do is offer the president today the ability to move. a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to reopen the government and to start to deal with america's pressing problems. now, the president hasn't seen the specifics of this deal yet, but the white house says he seems happy about getting the offer. let's be clear about what's on the table here. this deal would lift the debt

ceiling all be it for a short amount of time. what happened in the six weeks really? a lot of talking, we hope. you know what the republicans want. they have been saying it for weeks. negotiations over what you just heard speaker boehner call some of america's pressing issues, but the white house is sticking to this line. there will be no negotiations until the government is back up and running. >> he wants congress to fulfill both of its fundamental responsibilities. open the government, ie, turn on the lights. pay our bills, ie, do not allow default to happen for the first time. and if congress takes action without partisan strings attached on either of those, that would be a good thing. and the president said himself that he would sign it. >> big meeting happening in 90 minutes. the president will be meeting with republican house members at the white house. and one of those republicans made a stop by our cnn cameras on capitol hill before heading to the white house.

she is lynn jenkins, kansas congresswoman. congresswoman, thank you so much for stopping by. we truly appreciate it. let me just ask you out of the gate, what do you plan to say to the president? >> well, we plan to ask the president how can we move forward to get the government back open? and move towards addressing our out of control spending problem and our huge debt and deficit issue. >> you know, i hear you on the spending. listen, both sides have talking points. let me ask you, the question is in terms of how we move forward, let's say obviously he's accepting, he's talking to you all, but what is this about? this is where i'm confused. is it about obama care? is it about entitlements? >> it's about our spending problems and all of those things are kribtding to our debt and deficit. certainly, the mandatory spending program, our auto pilot

programs, medicare, medicaid, social security, they're the drivers of our debt. >> which is it, if i could try to get it from you? >> a menu. >> all of the above. >> >> all of the above. we would like to negotiate on all of those fronts. what we're trying to do is get to a point where we can stop spending more money than we take in year after year after year. no individual family can do that, no small business at home in kansas can do that. the federal government cannot continue to operate like this. we have $17 trillion in debt. this ends badly for our economy if we don't demonstrate an ability to get our fiscal house in order. >> let me ask you specifically about the meeting because jay carney was asked and he said the president invited all these republicans to come. we would have loved to talk to everyone. we know the house leadership specifically will not be attending. no speaker boehner, no leader canter.

can you tell me why? >> he invited the entire house to talk to us. we didn't feel that that would be very productive. right now, what we need is a negotiation. so our entire leadership elected leadership team, including speaker boehner, cantor, myself, and our leaders in key committee, our key committee chairman will be going up today to lay out what we would like to see happen in the hours and days ahead. >> so those leaders will be there? am i incorrect? speaker boehner and eric cantor will be with you at the white house in 90 minutes? >> absolutely. >> they will. i hear from both sides of the aisle, and i know from a lot of republicans, i'm hearing this, we want negotiations, we want negotiations. my question is why didn't those negotiations happen many, many months ago? we heard the speaker actually saying, i want to say back in may, but some point this spring, we will not tie obama care to this budget battle.

obviously, that changed. but why didn't both sides talk about this? this debt ceiling deadline, the budget issue, this is not news. you had the deadlines. why weren't you talking months ago? >> well, why we find ourselves here is because the senate hadn't passed a budget in five years and they didn't pass one appropriation bill all year long. that's how regular order works. the house passed their budget, we marched through our appropriation process. we spent the last two weeks funding various key components of the federal government. but the senate has failed to do any of those things. and that's why we find ourselves in the position that we do today with the shutdown. >> i hear you. and this frustration and this group isn't doing this and this back and forth, but this is what i think the american -- >> those are the facts. >> facts are great, but this is what the american people, i think, part of the frustration is, this may be good news and the president, according to jay carney, is happy at this possibility of this deadline moving maybe six weeks.

but what can you tell the american people, congresswoman jenkins, that we will not be having this same conversation in early december? >> that is absolutely our intent, to put this to bed right now. and once and for all address the issue at hand. and that's our out of control washington wasteful spending. we've got hopefully a window of opportunity here, a six-week negotiation period where we're going to appoint our budget and the two sides can sit down and come to agreement. it's a good sign the president has finally come to the table to visit with us, and we've made an offer today that takes default off the table. so no one needs to be worried about our markets. >> okay, congresswoman lynn jenkins, republican, kansas. thank you, we'll wait to hear back from you as far as the meeting goes at the white house. as we mentioned, the meeting happening in an hour and a half.

the president steps into the meeting with the republican house members, some of the members of the leadership will be there, but will there be progress or is this another dead end? jim acosta, let me bring you in, and gloria borger, our chief political analyst. jim, i watched the back and forth with jay carney and you. you were trying. >> you watched the whole thing? >> i did, and we appreciate that. your question, how the white house is reacting to this republican plan for a clean debt ceiling bill. what did you get from that? >> what i got from jay carney, and we all tried. this went on for several minutes, and several minutes is probably not giving it the credit it's due. the gist of it, basically is this, brooke. the president will sign, depending on what the legislation looks like, a short-term debt ceiling increase that is clean. so you know, one of the things we heard from white house officials earlier this morning and last night is yes, the president wants to sign any debt ceiling increase that is clean, whether it's short term,

long-term, whatever, but what i sense during this briefing, brooke, is they want to see this bill first, and there's still not a whole lot of trust going on between the white house and house republicans on capitol hill. but given the likelihood that this is a clean debt ceiling increase, yes, the president will sign that. now, the big million dollar question that we also tried to get out during this briefing, brooke, is whether or not the president would sign this debt ceiling increase and not have accompanying legislation that would reopen the government. the clean continuing resolution for the president has said he also wants. the indication we got from jay carney at the briefing is yes, the president, for the sake of avoiding default, for the sake of avoiding what they describe as an economic nuclear bomb, the president will sign an debt ceiling increase that does not include a legislation that reopens the government just for the sake of moving the country away from the brink on the 16th. the other thing we want to point

out is senate democratic leaders and the senate democratic caucus are all meeting with the president right now. we expect that meeting to wrap up at any moment. we'll get a read from harry reid, we hope, outside the west wing here in just a few moments to see what he has to say. and then of course, the big meeting coming up in just about an hour and half from now when house republicans and john boehner show up here. that's when this is going to get very interesting. >> gloria, let me ask you about that. that is the big meeting. what needs to happen there? oh, boy, you laugh. >> look, i think there are some republicans who are not happy with this plan. some republicans who see that it's a way out for them. i think the big question looming right now is the question of whether the president will agree to engage in any budget negotiations so long as the government is shut down. when jay carney was asked about it at that briefing you were just talking to jim about, he was, i would call it

purposefully ambiguous. he didn't, you know, he didn't really answer the question. he didn't say no, the president, you know, wouldn't. but he said, look, the question was asked point blank, will the president negotiate on the budget so long as the government is shut down? and we don't know the answer to that. and if the president says, you know, i really won't, then you know what? there might be some republicans who say, why are we even doing this? and by the way, there are lots of democrats who are asking that same question? why are we doing this? if we don't deal with both of these things at the same time, aren't we just giving republicans a fig leaf to get out of the debt ceiling problem? and allowing them to keep their obama care argument on keeping the government running. so you know, the president is getting it from all sides, getting it from democrats. he's going to get it from conservative republicans, so that meeting should be interesting. both meetings interesting. >> i think i would be pulling my

hair out if i was working and living and eating -- >> i am. >> thanks to both of you. let me get this in, this just in to us, the senate has unexpectedly approved legislation to restore death benefits to the families of fallen members of the military so spouses and families of service members who die will receive $100,000 as well as other benefits. you know, covering the cost of funerals, the burial, the housing, et cetera. so that's news from the u.s. senate. coming up, forget the october 17th deadline. on november 1st, soldiers, men and women of the military, may not get paid. one specific group of them. i'll speak live with a representative of wounded warriors. plus this -- >> the officer told me, if i see you hit your son, we're going to have to lock you up. i said, sir, what can i do? i've been asking for help, and no one is helping me. i'm in what you -- >> a father's plea for help.

how can parents -- how can they get help in situations like this? that's coming up next. you're watching cnn. vo: irresponsible.

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as we just told you a couple minutes ago, we have now learned that the u.s. senate unexpectedly has approved legislation to restore the death

benefits for the family of fallen members of the military. there was all kinds of outrage when the payments were cut off because of the partial government shutdown. while restoring these payments is obviously great, welcome news for some, for others, the outrage remains because come november 1st, and i know maybe, maybe, there may be a short-term deal, but if the shutdown is in effect here, 3.8 million of our wounded veterans won't be receiving their disability checks here, and sherman joins me now. he's a marine veteran, an associate executive director of veterans benefits for the paralyzed veterans of america. so welcome in, and thank you so much for joining me. just for our audience, you were left disabled in a car accident. this is just a couple months prior to deploying to afghanistan. and before i get your reaction to our latest news when it comes to the death benefits, we wanted to talk to you because i'm pretty passionate when it comes

to our wounded warriors and getting the help they need. and if this thing continues, they may not get it. how hard will this hit them? >> well, let me put it this way. most of us, we have bills, we have, you know, a way to provide a roof over our heads. we have to feed our families, but gas in the car. you have to make choices among paying those, those are bad enough. imagine for a second you face that same circumstance, except when you wake up in the morning, you look down and your legs don't work or they may be missing or your hands don't work and you have to pay an vegto come into your home to do the activities that a lot of us take for granted when we're able bodied. in those cases, when we're talking about a paycheck getting cut off, you choose between the routine essentials and a case of many of the men and women over whom paralyzed veterans of america, for whom we advocate, that's the choice they have to make. you know, now you're talking about cutting off the very things that keep you alive, that help you survive every day.

and that's unacceptable. >> you know, montel williams used to host a talk show for a long time. he's actually a board member of the fisher house. he was talking to piers morgan last night. fisher house is this private entity who was bravely stepping forward and taking on some of the death benefits that because of congress initially that they're helping take care of these families. and he came on and he said, because the question is why? right? why is this happening? and he said that there are, i think he said 20% -- less than 20% of the current lawmakers serving you and me, have served. so the rest of the body of congress has never served our country. i'm curious if you think that is part of the issue here. this is, you know, compared -- the numbers were very different decades ago. do you think that's part of the reason? >> i try to avoid playing into the politics of these things. >> good for you. >> i don't want to indict the

character or the motives of those who have chosen to serve their country in a different way, but i will say that things might be a little different if part of the shutdown involved cutting off checks that go to congressional representatives. >> well said. let me just thank you. i'm going to leave it there and thank you so much, sherman. i appreciate you very much and everything that you do for those who served in our country. >> thank you, brooke. coming up next, as republicans get ready to meet with president obama in the white house just about an hour from now, negotiations over the debt ceiling may have reached a turning point. we'll talk to newt gingrich and van jones right after this break. stay with me. my mantra?

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six weeks in exchange for talks with the white house in what they are calling the country's pressing problems. i want you to hear both from republicans and democrats. first, you're going to hear from speaker john boehner. >> what we want to do is offer to president today the ability to move. a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to reopen the government and to start to deal with america's pressing problems. >> the president has always been willing to negotiate and work out and find common ground with republicans over our long-term budget priorities, but he's not, you know, again, going back to like the assertion they're going to use punishing the american people as leverage, doing harm to the american economy as leverage, that's unacceptable to the president. i think he's made that clear. >> from washington now, thrilled to have these two, "crossfire" hosts van jones and newt

gingrich. welcome to both of you. listen, when you talk to the americans. they say this isn't about blinking. this is about solutions. van, did you see signs that either side is blinking here? >> well, i think that the president's strategy is paying off. the president looked at this republican party, saw it was incredibly dysfunctional, had been hijacked by this kind of tea party extreme wing, and said i'm not going to talk to these guys. he created space for better voices to emerge. now, you see paul ryan, who i never thought i would praise in public, coming forward with a sensible, at least starting point negotiation that doesn't include obama care, on the debt ceiling. so i think the president's strategy is paying off. republicans are finally coming back to some close approximatation to sanity. we'll see what happens tonight. >> you mentioned paul ryan. newt, i'm going to give it to you because there were kind of crickets for a while, and boom, you see this op-ed in the wall

street journal, calling for modest reforms to entitlement programs, to the tax code. not a single word about obama care. what do you make of that because i know a lot of conservatives are not so pleased with this congressman right now? >> i think you have to read what he wrote pretty carefully. what he said was, on the debt ceiling, we ought to try to solve spending problems. and then he's talking about entitlements and other things that would affect the long-term debt of the united states. he didn't say anything about the continuing resolution and the government shutdown, which is where they have been fighting over obama care. and where i think, frankly, the president took a big hit today when a poll came out that said by 68-28, the american people oppose an individual mandate, which is far and away the biggest antiobama care number i have seen. so i think paul ryan wasn't trying to take obama care off the table. he was saying, let's have two tracks. one track is dealing with money issues and the debt ceiling.

the other track is dealing with obama care and policy issues on the continuing resolution. >> speaking of obama -- >> what's interesting about that -- >> go ahead. >> that is different than the ted cruz strategy. ted cruz said on the debt ceiling, you've got to include obama care. this is a break with the ted cruz wing. it's a very significant development. baby steps back toward some kind of sanity for the center of power in the republican party. >> what about, though, and that's interesting you point out the two different sort of factions moving forward, but what about obama care. we have elizabeth cohen talking about issues with password saids and maybe not password issues. this rollout not totally pretty. >> certainly not. medicare part d didn't roll out well. it eventually got fixed. if you look at romney care, really, obama care is really romney care. romney care got off to a bumpy start. now it's incredibly popular in massachusetts and worked. it's often the case when things first get started, it's bumpy.

don't forget, we have three more months before the first enrollment period is over, and i think we ought to give this thing a chance to work. >> all i'll say is i think the average american looks at the inability to even get into the computer system, mistakes made by the computer system, mistakes being made by the paid people who are supposed to know what they're talking about, doesn't give them much confidence that washington, d.c. bureaucracy can run the health care for 315 million people. >> let me stay with you, newt. let me stay with you because i want to ask you about the meeting that's happening an hour from now at the white house with the house republicans, 20 or so, heading there. i talked to a congresswoman from kansas confirming a number of members of the house leadership will be there. who is leading the charge inside the room? >> the president and speaker will be leading the charge, as you put it. >> yeah. >> the president is always the host, and the president always has the ability to set an agenda. the speaker is going down there, having met with his conference and having met with his leadership.

i think he has a very specific proposal to put on the table, and it will be very interesting to see if the president can find a way to say yes, because what the president can't pretend he's a king. he cannot simply go around as his spokesman did a few minutes ago and say he's not going to talk, he's not going to talk, he's not going to talk. this is america. our constitution requires you to negotiate to get anything done. it will be interesting this afternoon to see whether the president is willing to accept john boehner's offer of six weeks of a debt limit extension, which the president's own secretary of treasury says next week will be a disaster. well, here's a chance for the president to at least buy six weeks to see if they can get something worked out. >> van, i saw the smile when he said the president can't be king. spill it, what are you thinking? >> it's interesting. all of the leadership here has been forced into these untenable situations. obviously, the president of the united states has been negotiated. that's how we got the sequester. we almost had a grand bargain.

he's been put in a situation where he does not have a partner to negotiate with because the republican party is in such disarray. certainly, boehner is an untenable situation. he has a majority of people in congress, if you include republicans and democrats, who would open the government right now. he can't keep them forever from voting. reid is in a tough situation. he's having to bat down these things. all of the leadership has been jerked into this situation. what we're seeing now, though, is this tea party tail that's been wagging the republican dog, trying to wag the whole government and country, doesn't have the strength to do it. the strength of the tea party tail is broken this week and you'll get back this week. >> little tea party tail. >> let me say, as the white house began to play this game of saying there could be a clean continuing resolution, the members who had said they were interested in it came out on the republican side and said they are not going to leave john

boehner. they're not going to vote for something like that. the fact is under our constitutional system, we have a leader in the house. he's called the speaker, and he is the person you negotiate with. >> and his name is ted cruz. >> no, and the fact is the president is being very, i think, silly, to suggest that there's nobody to negotiate with. john boehner was elected by his colleagues. he is their leader. and i used to be speaker of the house, and i'll tell you flatly, there ain't nobody else you negotiate with, only the speaker has the power to schedule legislation. and the president sooner or later has to negotiate. >> honest question, though, newt. you were a different speaker. you were clearly in control. you could deliver your votes. boehner has been undermined -- >> look at you all nice to your colleague, van jones. >> i hate to tell you this, van, but i looked the other day at some of the coverage in '95. the talks of the 40 or 50 right-wingers who are causing me trouble. i would say, this is a permanent

problem, everyone in the house of representatives won an election. everybody thinks they're equally important. a smart speaker listens a lot to his or her conference and understands that in the end, you're only speaker as long as your conference is willing for you to be. >> never had this kind of chaos under you. never had it before. >> flipping through the archives. memories. newt gingrich, van jones, thank you both very much. we'll watch "crossfire" 6:30 eastern, only here on cnn. speaking of, senators ted cruz and sheldon whitehouse on. >> coming up, the dade of the 9-year-old boy who hops a flight to vegas. his plea for help. how can parents find assistance in situations like this that are so tough for moms and dads? wendy walsh will weigh in next.

we were struck by this plea for help from the father of that 9-year-old boy who snuck onto a plane in minneapolis and then flew to las vegas. the dad, as you'll see in the pictures, he clearly doesn't want to be identified. he's hiding under this hat and black hoodie in the video we're about to show you, but he's clearly upset as he describes his inability to control his son whose other past actions allegedly include stealing this

big truck, he's 9, and smashing it into a police car. >> i don't know how my 9-year-old son's brain acts. okay, i've been asking for help. no one stepped up to help. wasn't listening, doing what he wants to do. it's just -- it's so much. we asked for help. that's all we need, the help. we need the resources. i'm tired of people saying he's a minor. there's nothing we can do. there's something somebody can do. i don't want to see my son hurt. i miss my son, i want my son home. >> you hear the emotion in this father's voice, wendy walsh, psychologist, joining me now. i want to talk about that help in a minute, but first, wendy, quick answer here. how much does a 9-year-old really understand between right and wrong? >> well, they do understand right and wrong, but remember, he could have had an organic brain chemistry difference like

anything. could have been slightly in the autism spectrum, could have a behavioral disorder, something that might turn into a personality disorder, high functioning aspergers where he has a different sense of right and wrong than a typical brain. >> let me show you something else the father said. take a look and we'll talk on the other side. >> what can i do? i have been asking for help and no one is helping me. i'm in what you call a double jeopardy. if i whoop my son, i get locked up. if i let my son keep on doing what he's doing, i get in trouble. somebody please help me. please. >> your heart goes out to this dad. we talk about kids in need. what about parents in need? how do parents in situations like these, how do they get help? >> brooke, i have to share something with you. i was that man not too long ago. i have a high-functioning aspergers girl, and she would not behave, and her teachers and

principal says she needs discipline, she needs discipline, she needs discipline. it was only after i dragged her up to ucla and took social skills classes with her and learned all the hopes you have to go through to get the assessments and get the interventions, and by the way, she's giving a speech today where she's running for class vice president. >> awesome, i was going to ask how she's doing. >> in two years of intervention, she's doing great. my point is, i have a ph.d. brooke, and it nearly killed me to figure out the system because the bottom line is this, the law does not match the budget. so what they do is they make it so hard to get services, especially for lower-income parents or parents that are working or english as a second language where the system seems mind-boggling, trust me, and then they really only award the squeaky wheel parents. eventually, i had to get an attorney and take the school board to due process so my child could get the help she needed. >> glad your daughter did that and hopefully this father, after the public pleas, gets the help

he so desperately needs as well. wendy walsh, thank you very much. let's roll over to the white house. live pictures here. senate majority leader harry reid speaking after meeting with the president. >> after having completed an hour and 45 minutes with him today, i feel the same way. we are here. the government should be open. now, we should be able to pay our debts, and as we have said and will continue to say, we, if that happens, will negotiate on anything, anything, and the president confirmed that today. >> will you accept a debt limit increase without reopening the government? >> the house has a unique form of legislating. hour by hour. i don't know what's happened in the two hours i have been gone, but this morning before i got here, it was floated to the press and otherwise, three different proposals. i assume there's a couple more

since then. let's wait and see what the house does. when they send us something, we'll look at it as clearly and closely as we can. under the same determination we've made, open the government. there's so much pain and suffering out there. it really is tear jerking, to say the least. and so we want the government open. we want to be able to pay our bills. this is -- this is a situation where they do not know what they want. i hope the republicans decide what they want and we'll be happy to work with them in any way. i repeat for the fourth time right here. open the government, let us pay our bills. we'll negotiate with you about anything. >> do you accept a short-term deal? >> pardon me? >> would you accept a short-team deal to increase the debt limit? >> we'll look at anything they

send us, coming out of the meeting, two e-mails. they've changed, the last we got, on how much time they want on debt limit. so i mean, let's just wait and see because there's some rumors that they want it tied to the cr. let's wait and see. one more question. >> senator reid, up until now, it's been very clear you had a very clear position, the president had a very clear position, which is you need a clean cr to open the government before you'll engage in negotiations. republicans were clear earlier today, they want to negotiate before you reopen the government. is that -- >> not going to happen. >> okay, so you had senate majority leader harry reid. i saw steny hoyer, dick durbin. these are democratic leadership members here on the senate side. they have just gone in, just met with the president of the united states. so coming up in about 45 minutes from now, it's the other side's

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now dissecting president obama's relationship with john boehner. bob woodward, the legendary washington post journalist who helped break the watergate scandal has been following the relationship for years, and woodward told jake tapper there is a big problem with that relationship. let's talk to jake tapper about that, host of "the lead." what did he tell you? >> well, the question is in previous negotiations between president obama and house speaker john boehner, what has transpired? if anything, that led to this moment? and there's actually quite a bit. woodward wrote a lot about it in his book "the price of politics" which comes out in paperback and has an updated section dealing with their previous negotiation at the end of 2012. but it all has to do with whether or not either man can trust the other when it comes to negotiation. obviously -- >> so trust issues? >> yeah.

i think from boehner's perspective, president obama is somebody who changes goalposts in the middle of negotiations. says, okay, i want and then we can talk about spending cuts, and then once boehner has negotiated that, president obama in the view of boehner raises that. instead of $800 billion, i need $1 trillion. it's happened more than once. from president obama's perspective, john boehner is somebody who negotiates when he doesn't necessarily have the ability to negotiate because he doesn't necessarily have the ability to go back to the house republican caucus and say this is what i think we should do, let's do it and have everybody get on board. >> so we'll be hearing this interview in a couple minutes. >> the legendary bob woodward will be here. also one of the house republican leaders, congressman lankford of oklahoma, one of the leaders who will be negotiating with president obama in this next hour also will stop by "the lead" talking about what exactly they want and why in this deal

they're offering president obama to raise the debt ceiling, why they're not offering to reopen the government, which is i think on a lot of people's minds as well. >> we'll be watching "the lead" with jake tapper. it starts in ten minutes. meantime, next, the details in the story are absolutely unthinkable. our cnn exclusive reporting on the death of a georgia teenager. the official police report called it an accident. now cnn is learning that his body was missing organs and instead was filled with newspaper. black friday ads, stuffed inside this teenager's body. ♪ [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the cadillac ats -- 2013 north american car of the year.

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through, because kendrick was the light of the family and then you have to wake up and see that he's no longer with us, and understand, you know, why they didn't give my son any gifts. i walked into his room and kissed his picture and said happy birthday, kendrick. you know, his dreams, memories, will always be with us. it will never leave us. >> adding to this grief, kendrick johnson's family is dealing with bizarre, unspeakable, really, new information about what happened to him after he died, what happened to his body. a second autopsy done at his parents' request shows how he died of unexplained blunt force trauma and in this bizarre twist, this independent autopsy also found that kendrick was buried without many of his organs, like we're talking from the top of his head to his

pelvis area, gone. instead his body had been stuffed with newspaper. hln anchor ryan smith is here. i know you shake your head. i can't help but think about these parents, you know. it's one thing to lose your son. it's another to learn my goodness, i buried half of him. >> it's unbelievable. i have never heard of anything like this before. right now, it's in the situation of well, who's responsible. the georgia bureau of investigations says no, we sent the body over to the morgue for the next process and the morgue is saying no, we got this body without those organs. so who was responsible in all of this? but that's why the parents are crying out about this case in the first place. there are so many things that just don't sound right. >> they don't add up. >> that's right. the cops ruled this to be an accident, but now we're hearing that there is surveillance video in the gym and that's the kind of evidence that officers and investigators love to see. it's objective evidence that will tell you what happened. >> so why aren't we seeing it? >> because the school board is saying that it's academic record. now, that really surprised me because you and i have covered many cases about fights on

school grounds and on school buses, and we see that video. so video can be turned over. i don't know if maybe it's a liability concern or something, but still, it surprises me. what's even more surprising is that officers and others aren't telling the family what's on this video. the catch-22 here is because the investigation is closed, officers probably aren't seeking a warrant to get that information so they're kind of out of the picture at this point. the school board would have to agree to turn it over to the parents. >> let me make sure i get this in. this is u.s. attorney in the case, who has a copy of this video we're talking about. this is part of a statement from him to cnn today. the memory of this young man, kendrick johnson, calls us to continue to be deliberate and thoughtful in this case. this is about getting to the facts and the truth and in terms of the facts and the truth in the case, we know it really goes to victor blackwell, who has been the correspondent, has really been digging and made a lot of trips to georgia. now ben krump, who we know from

the trayvon martin trial, is involved in this case. you're talking to the parents tonight. tell me about that. >> we want to know all about the surveillance video. one thing i think is interesting, you hear the u.s. attorney's statement. i wonder if he communicated with the family about what he's seen so far on this tape. as victor mentioned earlier, that tape has been with him for a couple months. so what's on that tape and has the family explored that. >> i don't know if they have communicated, just talking to victor. >> i think there's a little gap here but that has to be so frustrating. when i talk to the parents tonight, i will talk to them about that frustration and also, this is their son's 18th birthday. what are they thinking, what are they feeling. overall, when i look at a case like this, i say you know, families deserve justice. i think they brought ben in because he brings exposure and i think in some senses, you need that sometimes to get police focused on hey, maybe we missed something, let's look into this deeper, because it's not just the surveillance. it's the evidence that wasn't checked out fully, samples that weren't taken. it does not add up.

families want justice, especially when you're talking about an 18-year-old boy. >> when you're talking about an 18-year-old boy who is buried instead of with his organs, with black friday ads stuffed inside of him. it's unthinkable. we'll be looking for you on "hln evening express" tonight, 5:30 p.m. eastern. thank you very much. now, this just in. this new report on the death of convicted kidnapper ariel castro suggests he may not have died from suicide, rather, from autoerotic asphyxiation. ohio officials have now released new details about what they found in castro's cell the day he died. according to this report, he was found hanging from the cell's window by a sheet wrapped around his neck, his pants and underwear were down around his ankles and castro left no suicide note. so all of these clues led officials to believe he may not have intended to kill himself after all. that report also says the two guards responsible for