[ applause ] this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. the statute of liberty which unbelievely is set to reopen this weekend. i can't say the same about the government. the offer is on the table but not what the president wants. >> the president has, you know, a number of concerns with the proposal. >> the house could vote this weekend but republicans and the senate may be running out of patience with john boehner. is this too little too late and what are people across america are paying the price for the shutdown every day goes on and

on and on. i'll talk to one of them who believe it or not supports the shutdown. two congressmen from opposite sides of the isle might agree with each other and a man that knows more than most people about butting heads with dysfunctional teammates. mr. october himself the great reggie jackson. the days in the bronx bombers, wait until you hear what he has to tell me tonight. >> begin with the big story, the shutdown showdown day 11. dana bash who deserves a long service award for this story now joins me. dana, where are we? >> piece, last night there was so much hope, so much optimism because of the fact the two sides sat eyeball to eyeball and talked for an hour and a half and i mean the president and house republicans. that hope has certainly dimmed a lot as here we are going into the weekend without any deal and it doesn't seem like a lot of movement since this morning when

house republicans tried to get something, some idea to the white house. and you know what is going on is that in the senate, which of course, is a lot more moderate, if you will, and has a lot more democrats, it's run by democrats, obviously, a lot more ability to pass something, to extend the debt ceiling and reopen the government, they are getting inpatient and say look, we're going to give the house speaker a little time, maybe 24, 48 hours and they will become more active in trying to move those two bills, at least in the next probably two days in the senate and that will probably be something that conservatives in the house will not like but they might not have a choice. >> i mean, how hard is it for john boehner that he has senator cruz on the rampage, he was out there today hooting and holing and definitely has a following and as he would say, keeping to the pledges he himself made.

he can see, i can imagine, a lot of good for cruz incorporated in all this and at the same time speaker boehner is left in a difficult position. >> certainly, this has not been an easy position for speaker boehner to be in however, if this were the beginning of the road and he had not tried to defund obama care and delay obama care when that didn't work and do four other things and then try to work with the president, he would be probably in much -- much worse position with his own republican caucus than he is now. when the senate passes something that many house republicans don't like, it will be a lot easier for him politically to say i tried, we tried, the math isn't there. the republicans control one half of one of the branchs of government. it will have been a painful process to get to that point.

>> the whole thing has been a painful process and i think you deserve a little treat dana bash so a little bird told me this evening that your first ever concert was -- would you like to confirm what it was? >> i would love to, i'm proud of it. donnie marie. >> well, i'm delighted to tell you that as a reward for your long service to the shutdown story over 11 days, and 11 nights, i'm interviewing marie ossmann tonight -- >> i can't wait. thank you. thank you. that is an honor. >> i thought something should bring a smile to your face. >> that's a big one. >> talk to you again on monday. i want to bring in two congressmen on the budget committee. scott of virginia and davis of rhode island. welcome to you gentlemen. last night i went to bed feeling quite hopeful and woke up less hopeful as the days dragged on. i'm like are we getting anywhere? do you guys think? are we actually getting to a

place within 24, 48 hours the word deal may be breaking news? >> in my short 2.5 years here in congress, i've seen this over and over where there is just a continuing lack of definitive action, clear alternatives that would set america on a better fiscal path. matter of fact, i introduced a plan yesterday everything, america first, a plan for a more productive fiscal track but this is not the conference's finalist hour and i'm hopeful once we clear the water we'll get to the real issue, which is long-term spending and how do we address that? >> one of the problems, david, the rhetoric used by some people is absurd but i'm talking about dr. ben carson.

he's a retired doctor. >> i have to tell you obama care is really, i think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. and it is in a way -- it is slavery in a way because it is making all of us subservient to the government and it was never about health care. it was about control. >> david, i mean, what a load of claptrap, the worst thing since slavery. i mean, when you hear this kind of nonsense, what is your reaction? >> i mean, i think i have very strong feelings about the value of health care reform and what it will mean in the lives of americans and people in my home state but i think what people want now more than anything is solutions. there is a lot of name calling,

a lot of heated rhetoric but people want the government open. they want to be sure america pays its bills, we're not a dead beat nation and they want to see a process where we can hammer out a long-term deal to reduce the deficit and get people back to work and there is a tremendous amount of rhetoric to have that serious conversation. what we need to do is move quickly to open government, be sure we have an extension of the debt ceiling so we pay our debt because the impact of not doing that would be devastating to the economy and have a process to regular order, to go to a budget committee and conference committee and work it out. there are a lot of great ideas out there. we need a process not in the context of a threat to keep the government close or default. do those two things and work together to find real solutions. >> very diplomatic way of avoiding what dr. carson actually said there. let me try with you scott. i mean, come on, when somebody whose a physician, a neurologist says obama care is the worst thing to hit america since

slavery is outrageous. >> it's over the top and i've been deliberate about not using that type of rhetoric and david has to in service to his district. we're both members of no labels, a strong bipartisan effort to bridge the gap here in washington and on the very first day of the shutdown, i put out a tweet that said look, we need to reopen the government. we need to return to regular order, and these are the things that david has mentioned and there are a number of us that are trying to do just that, to put the american people first and to really grapple with longer-term issues that we face together as fellow americans. >> i mean, it seems to me, scott, i'll stay with you from a moment from the republicans point of view, hard to paint a positive picture in a week they hadn't been so intransitive. they could have been hammering october and the president over perfectly legitimate criticisms

-- >> yes, sir, they are. >> instead of that, it's been this ridiculous non-sense involving shutting down the government and as a result, the favorable view of obama care has actually risen according to a wall street journal poll. from september to october, a rise in favorability of 7% and who do you blame for the shutdown, a gap for president obama republicans widening from 53 percent to 31. whichever way you stretch it up, the strategy is completely flawed and led by senator cruise. >> well, i share your view. though i really believe that we need a better alternative to what i truly believe is the unaffordable care act, that said, this -- you could call it the cruise strategy or whatever. it led us into the political abyss. it hurt our confidence.

we got to get our way out of this and hopefully, in the next day or so, we'll have some type of short-term solution that piers, back to the main point is that we got to -- you know, we got to look longer than just a couple days here. we got to come to a comprehensive agreement that democrats and republicans can saddle up with that puts america on a better fiscal path. this must be done. >> piers, you know, your point is, though, there is no question that there was a small group within the republican caucus who were obsessed with repealing or defending obama care and it drove republicans to make bad decisions that resulted in the shutdown of the government and this looming default. i think people now recognize that that's not a good strategy. i think there has been a willingness over the last day or go to understand that we need to open government and we need to avoid a default and then have a process in place for this larger conversation.

but that description i think is obviously inaccurate when you think of the benefits americans will see as a result of obama care. the american public moved away from that. i think people realize this is the law of the land, here to stay. let's work and make sure it's working well improve it where we can but make sure it works for rhode island and people across the country. >> congressmen, thank you both very much indeed. >> thank you. when we come back, a man out of a job because because of the shut down. also ahead, he could teach washington a thing or two about dealing with difficult teammates. mr. october himself, the great reggie jackson.

the government will always continue to grow and freedom in america will always receipt. and yet, what we saw across this country -- ma'am, thank you for being here. i wish you would participate in the democratic process through speaking respectfully. >> ted cruz getting a mixed reception at the values voter summit today. my next guest is a big supporter of ted cruz and the tea party even though he's out of work because of the shutdown. dale is a furloughed nasa engine near and joins me now. mr. holes, welcome to you. >> thanks for having me. >> so how come you have been furloughed, which i would imagine would be pretty irritating for anybody but you're a big supporter of the guy that's basically caused it? >> well, i mean, as for why i'm furloughed is because 97% of nasa has been shutdown and i'm part of that 97% of the 17% of the government and has been shut down for this.

senator cruz just voiced an argument. he did not shut down the government. that's something i believe the american people did by notifying their representatives in congress. >> however people may quibble over the details of obama care, for people as they have done today to publicly describe it as the worst thing to hit america since slavery, what do you think of that? >> well, you know, i'm pretty simple guy. you know, when you get taxed to breathe in this country, i think you went a little far. >> well, i'm glad you said that. i think the only way through this, senator cruz is making a big name for himself but i'm wondering his position is doing to the general process of democracy in america. if you threaten to shut down the government if you don't agree with a law like obama care rather than debate it, that's

not good for america, is it? >> well, you know, when you lay all that at senator cruz' feet that's a lot. you have to remember there is an appropriations process that has not worked in over four years. the congress has not worked its will through the normal appropriations process. we've gone on continuing resolutions year after year after year. that's a way to get past doing your normal appropriations. so, i would not say that senator cruise is responsible for this shutdown or even at the point that we're at. >> tell me this, if in a year's time, god forbid, the government remains shut down and you still haven't been paid money and nasa has effectively ground to a halt, would you still have such a cheering view of its necessity? >> well i wouldn't say i have a churry view. do i want the government shut down? no. i want the government to be working and effectively and efficiently.

however, i believe obama care is not good for america, as we can see in the messed up rollout this week. i believe i heard the number of only 50,000 people actually signed up on it when it's supposed to take care of millions. that's worth delay there. if i'm out of work for a year, way before then i'll take steps to do what any american would do in hard times. i would pull up my boot straps and take care of my family. >> i have a nasa engine near, have you seen gravity, the hit movie yet? >> i haven't but my daughter called me last night and said it was just awesome. >> well, i've seen it and i commend you to see it. it's absolutely stunning to watch but i wonder what would happen to sandra bullock and george clooney if that happened now, with nasa furloughed. >> right now of course i believe they have mission controls fully

staffed to take care of astronauts that are on or bit. if there was a problem, obviously, they could call them back immediately and do what we always do at nasa, houston, we have a problem and take care of it. >> washington, we have a problem. dale huls, good to speak you, you speak in a rational and sensible manner, which i appreciate, thank you. >> thank you very much. i want to bring in two people that disagree on the shut down. on the right connie mac the former congresswoman. connie mac, you can take any view you like but in the end 11 days in and the government is still shut down. it's pretty shameful, isn't it? >> simple in what way, the government shut down. >> shameful, shameful. >> oh, shameful. i'm sorry, shameful. it's shameful but this has been brewing for a long time. you know, dale just talked about

it how there is a c.r. after c.r. after c.r. continuing resolution. washington is clearly broken. you've got a budget process where the house and senate are supposed to pass budgets. they are supposed to come together and an appropriation committee are supposed to pass bills to fund the government. that hasn't happened in years. i mean, i think it's been six years, five years since that happened. so certainly, it's not working the way that it is supposed to be working, but i don't think it's fair, piers, i don't think it's fair to lay it at the feet of ted cruz or republicans. i mean, the president has -- is pretty famous now saying i'm not going to negotiate and that's not the way the government works, as well. >> well may be but it seems that ted cruz almost single handily with his group of 40 foot soldiers in washington basically held everybody to ransom, his own speaker john boehner and the president of the united states congress and wash -- and the whole of america if you look at

it in a rational mind. >> let's go to mira. i know what you think. >> look, the facts are john boehner at the end of july made a deal with senator reid to avoid a government shut down. what happened? ted cruz campaigned across the country saying that we should take this bill, obama care, and hold the government hostage to achieve our political ends, and what is important about that is that the american people have rejected that idea with near unanimous with the idea of closing down the government, shut down the government to end obama care is the wrong idea and that's why i think you're seeing cooler heads in the senate, senator flake not any kind of liberal senator. he's a republican senator from arizona saying enough is enough,

that we have to open the government and pass a clean debt ceiling and move forward, and i think that is -- the people are angry at senator cruz are not just liberals or democrats but senate republicans that are saying enough is enough. >> i mean, look, i want to play a game, it's so outrageous it needs repeating. this is a fox news contributor and former doctor and said this about obama care. >> obama care is i think the worst thing that happened in this nation since slavery. >> just dwell on that sentence for one moment. the worst thing to happen to this nation since slavery. your thoughts? >> well, you know, i certainly am not comfortable with that but let me say something -- >> not comfortable? about saying you're as outraged as i am? >> wait, wait, wait, let me say this.

i think what we're seeing here with the president is more of an authoritarian dictator style of seeing a democracy. >> do you actually have simple though -- >> hang on -- >> no, no, no -- >> wait, wait, wait, no, let me give you another example. >> go on. >> you've asked me to be on your show. let me give you an example. >> you're right, you're a guest in my house. >> yes, so you have -- you-all have been saying that this is the law of the land, that the house, the senate, the president signed it, so you must forget -- >> it passed -- >> in this country that then, by the way, was a constitutional amendment and was in our constitution and then removed. so the idea because it was passed and nobody can touch it, you know, i think that's a big problem. in fact, i think we ought to have a congress instead of passing new laws, we ought to have a congress that repeals bad laws and this really does define the difference between the two parties. >> okay, nira --

>> i gave the government -- >> wait a minute. >> so -- >> connie -- >> i've given you a good say there. let's go to nira for the final word. >> thank you, piers. >> to deal with this issue whether the worst thing to hit america since slavery? >> now, that's obviously an outrageous remark and what is remarkable about the shut down is that the american people are finding obama care to be more popular. it's improved popularity over the last two weeks probably because of the tactics and also because tens of thousands of americans are actually signing up. we have 40,000 people signing up for health care just in new york state alone. so what i think is amazing about this whole talk about prohibition, et cetera, is that this law has been the law of the land, the president won reelection, the president won and it's not going anywhere. >> an interesting debate. will carry on. the shut down continues.

appreciate you both for joining me. thank you. coming up, more politics and public shaming this time on the baseball field. reggie jackson on his journey. he's in the chair next. 1111 ]

name calling, public inviting and an angry boss dead set against compromise. it sounds like congress. this happened in 1977 putting billy martin against the rising

hot shot reggie jackson. jackson went on to become a yankee legend and mr. october and reggie jackson is in the cheer with me tonight. what an honor to have a legend in baseball. >> i was wondering where you're going with that stuff. pleasure to be here. >> you played the wrong sport for me. i'm a cricket man. i don't imagine you play much cricket, right? >> no, but i would be good at that, too. >> tell me, when you finished the book, what is your over riding view, slammed it shut, that's my life, career as a baseball player, what did you feel? >> you know, i couldn't call it my life, piers. you know, there is certainly a lot more to it in the book there. really, it was a rebuttal or response to a mini series done by espn the bronx is burning. i was disappointed by it and didn't think that it showed me in the light that i wanted to be presented, not that any kind of

presentation was going to be one i would want because of the times that went on the end fighting that happened, the problems we had socially. i think some of those problems came to pass because of what was going on in the country at that time and -- >> tell me this, is america more or less racist since it got its first black president? >> you know, i certainly think that some of the issues that obama has are because he's a man of color. i think that some people are still uncomfortable with being told what to do, if you will, certainly, piers, can remember in the '60s and '70s and playing in the south and not only the south, in other parts of our country that the law changed, the people didn't.

and so while it said no colored, white only, signs started to prop up as we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone in a free country. do we need change? do we need to get better? do we need more support for each other? yes. >> when you see the shutdown of the american government and squabbling and poison between the two sides in washington, as a great american sportsman and great american, what do you make of it? >> i'm disappointed. i'm hurt, offended, bothered. i could not do it. i couldn't stop jobs or stop payments for veterans. i have a brother that's a veteran. checks and live on social security and paying money a month and people we shutdown and

then trickle down affect afterward. i couldn't do it. so i'm significantly, i don't know heavy enough of a word, i'm embarrassed and disappointed by our political environment. >> let's turn to baseball for a moment. i want to get inside your head. i want to be on that plate in that world series game six in '77, when you walk up the third time, what are you thinking? >> my focus was small. it was not about setting a new standard, breaking a record, rising to a new level, doing something that no one has ever done. it was really about what i needed to do at that moment in that little particular area and i wasn't beyond that. i wasn't beyond the batter's box. >> when you connected and you knew you had done it again, three and three, each one a first pitch, each one a different pitcher, as its

soaring away, what are you thinking? >> oh, boy, i say good. i said, oh, boy, that one is hit good and i watched to see how far it would go. i thoroughly enjoyed the moment and i reason i did, piers, is because when i played, i was a baseball fan that was a really good player. and so i enjoyed the game inside the game, if you will, from both sides, as a player and as a guy that was a fan and so i recognized that i was -- got -- i had gotten into a place where babe ruth was, micki was the great snider and the guys that hit four homers. >> when you see the problem not just with baseball but the general sport at the moment, cheating, steroid abuse and drug abuse, lance armstong, the allege culprits, how do you stop it? my way of stopping it would be

you know what? you get caught, that's it. boom, over. that's it. you don't play again. you don't play for the yankees again if you do that. >> i would -- i would lean toward doing that, as well. i think you have a significant fight on your hands with unions. the players' association in all three leagues, i think, would fight that and say a guy deserves another chance, everyone makes a mistake. i certainly recognize when you have an issue with the integrity of the game. you know, we take a look at some of the things happen when it comes to cheating and gambling is really the most important one or the most penalized, i guess, the severest penalties, the way of saying it where if someone gets caught gambling on the sport i believe they are eradicated forever. i would sign up for that.

but i would listen to what people say and do my best to try and get objective opinions and one that created a majority and sign up for that. >> final question, reg, if you could relive one moment of your whole career again, what would it be? >> i would relive the three homers. >> on course you would. >> i didn't even have a swing and miss. >> terrific book. proper bona fide american legend called "becoming mr. october" appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, she's been a star since she was three years old and still going strong. the lovely, legendary marie osmond. . ♪ ♪

♪ >> marie osmond singing paper roses and record is number one and marie never looked back and ageless, i don't use that word often but the ageless marie osmond. >> how come you don't use that word? >> i'm six years younger than you and you look younger than me. >> wait a minute, i'm 29, how already out? >> marie osmond has been in the business 50 years. i thought she can't be 50 years old. >> five decades this year.

amazing. >> crazy. >> i know, what is wrong with this picture? >> when you see 12-year-old marie as we saw there, would you change anything, all the swings and slings and arrows of outrageous fortune you've been through? >> i wouldn't change anything. i think there are things that hurt and i grew from that, but i think that's what determines the kind of person you are. i was three when i did my first show and, you know, lots of -- lots of craziness through the years, and it's nice to be at an age where you just kind of know who you are and you're okay with your life and make your own decisions, you know? it's a really good thing. >> so your brother donnie gave a fascinating interview -- >> he was fascinating? >> he was. >> i'm stunned. [ laughter ] >> he said -- interesting to me about the difference between him and you as a family and the jackson's and michael jackson. i knew mike so well i go to his house and it's all about gold

records and accolades. you walk into my home you won't find a gold record on my wall, pictures of the kids, grandkids. that's what home is about. if you keep your perspective there, you feet are on the ground. i thought it was perceptive, you might think unusual prospective of him. what do you think of who he said there? >> that's how we were raised. we were raised by the same parents. i don't keep awards or things like that in my house. really, my reward in life is to have healthy, happy children and, you know, to get through life the best you can. you know, i have an interesting perspective that maybe somebody wouldn't that entered into show biz later on in life. i was a child. that's all i've ever seen or known. i worked with some of the greatest people in the world, and i watched some -- especially the woman i watched. ethal, all these women and i watched how they treated people. i watched their work ethic. i watched what i was told was

important, family first. >> do you recent the fact you missed a conventional childhood or do you celebrate the fact it was so fabulous? >> i love letting my children have as normal life as possible. i think there are things you miss out on, absolutely, but i think there are things you miss out if you don't have the other, too. i think you can sit with regrets forever. i don't regret anything, as long as you learn from it. i think the greatest thing -- and i appreciate what donnie said in that quote. family -- the problem with celebrity or entitlement sometimes is it becomes their whole life and i have a life outside my job. maybe that's why i'm a female whose been in this business for five decades is because it is my job and i look at it as always trying to be better, whether it's broadway or i sing many different styles of music and always pushing myself to do something creatively interesting and then i go home and i cook

and clean toilets. >> do you tweak. >> i work. >> you don't tweak? >> you have an accent, are you asking if i work? >> when you see miley cyrus, you've been where she is. you've been a young child star, teenage star. down her desperation to break out and be something else even if it's a bit naughty? >> you know, i think everybody has a choice to do what they want with their brand. i don't think she's stupid. i think she knows exactly what she's doing. >> she described it brilliantly in this new documentary coming out. she said although it may seem like a hot mess the vma performance, it was a strategic hot mess, a brilliant line. >> if that's how you want your career to be, there are women -- madonna did it, cher did it -- >> have you ever attempted to do that? >> i've been asked to do all kinds of things. [ laughter ] >> no, i never wanted to.

i really believe it's because i had incredible parents and mostly a had a great mother that taught me to respect myself and i believe it's about talent, you know, long-term talent. i think miley is very talented, and so, you know, its -- you know, i don't know. it's her choice in what she wants to do. i just know that some people love it and some people don't find it appealing for their children, and she just gets to make those choices, and i know her dad. i know it breaks his heart a little bit. >> just out of your sixth year in vegas, donnie marie the flamingo. it's amazing. >> it changes up every year, too. it's never the same. donnie -- >> tell me about compromise. whether it's washington or whatever it is, what is the art of compromise because you must have it with donnie all the time, the way you navigate through it.

>> you know, there are many right ways. you know, you may think your right. i may think i'm right. we may both be right. what i always believe is the right way is the peace of the way. what i see is that people don't talk, they don't communicate. they don't -- they just -- my way or the highway and i don't think anything works. i don't think that works with your children or in a marriage. i don't think it works with yourself. i think you have to constantly and analyze and look and grow and consider and change and be willing to see lots of different sides. i don't know. hey, i'm no expert. i'm no -- >> when we come back, marie's family, faith and fabulous lifestyle. ordinary rubs don't always work on my arthritis.

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happened to rick warren. did you find that test of faith? did you come through that? did you feel? >> i think it was my faith of god that pulled me through it. there is this thing called agency, free will. >> if i hadn't gone through postpartum depression and those types of situations i don't know that i would have understood depression. i don't think anybody does unless they've walked in those shoes. but no, it's not an easy thing. it's still not. it's never easy. we do meet and greets in vegas. and i swear, every night somebody will come through and say, i know. we're in the same family. i've lost a son or a daughter or somebody. and it's not an easy thing to get through. but i don't know how people get through it unless they have a strong faith in god. and knowing that -- i don't know how i'm a christian. i don't know how the atonement works. all i know is when i couldn't breathe and when i begged for relief or help, it came.

and it was a miracle to me that i could take a breath and breathe again and move forward. and i think that's the beauty of god. >> in a sense, rather than damage your faith it probably strengthened your faith. >> absolutely. and my children. it's not an easy thing for anybody to go through. there is a god. and you can scientifically say well, it's science. well, who created the science? i know there's a god. i do. and so i'm not telling anybody else to believe what i believe. but that's how you get through life. and i believe, too, you have to have that higher accounting. my son was doing fantastic. if i could -- he went through so much through his life and was doing fantastic. but even when he was with alcoholics anonymous, they said the reason that program works is because you report to a higher power. you have to have somebody to be accountable to. and god is there for us. >> you've been heavily involved now in this new project which is

fascinating involving natural disasters and this company you've teamed up with, wise. tell me about this. >> you know, i've been asked to endorse so many things throughout my career. and i'm not -- i don't. this one came by and i said, no, this is the right thing to do. i'm one of the founders of children's miracle network. i'm a child advocate. and this is something i know will save lives. first of all, what celebrity on the planet do you know that grew up living on food storage? hello. my mom taught us how to do it. i come home from donny and marie and she'd say okay i'm going to teach you how to make homemade bread. grind the wheat, get the honey. bottle fruit. this is not grandma's food storage. this is so easy. packages. you open them, add water and you eat meals. >> this is it. simple packaging.

>> crazy easy. your meals we're talking about a dollar a meal, less than a school lunch. >> it all looks quite tasty. >> taste this. these are peaches. the way they do it, they dehydrate it. some dehydration and some freeze dried. the combination keeps it fresh. lasts for 25 years. >> really good. >> look at sandy. everybody was waiting for relief to come. some people didn't see it for two weeks. put this under your bed, put it in your closet, you have it there. my mother said anybody who isn't prepared for anything that's crazy. i have it in my car. look at people who get storms and things like that. look at what's been going on with all of the devastation. and not just that, my girlfriend, her husband lost his job. she didn't tell anybody for four months they lived on their food storage. and it saved enough money with all the kids they could make their house payment again. >> i think it's a great idea. we've had recent events that have shown why such a valuable thing to have. >> they've only been doing it four years. a lot of their involvement was

men. they liked it for hiking and camping and all those kinds of things. i said no, the mothers need to know how good this is, that it's really something we should do to have in our homes. i put it in the bottom of my children's backpacks for school. if anything ever happened like an earthquake or i got separated at least i know they could eat for a couple of days until we could find them. >> you can check out all things marie osmond at marieosmond.com. go to wisestorage.com. >> life insurance. this is another form of insurance. can you imagine not being able to feed your child? >> a great idea. another good idea from you, marie. great to see you. >> nice to see you. your little girl so cute! so darling! >> she is. that's my daughter, by the way. don't get the wrong idea. marie osmond, thank you so much. we'll be right back.

. all year we've been introducing you to everyday people who are changing the world. we call them cnn heroes. now we announce the top ten cnn heroes for 2013. in random order the honorees are -- dale beatty lost his legs in

iraq. now he provides home to disabled veterans. dr. laura stachel delivers solar power to help health care workers deliver babies safely. danielle gletow -- kakenya ntaiya. tawanda jones. provides drill team inspiration in one of the country's poorest cities. chad gregecke. stella pyfrom. richard nariks lost his son to leukemia. now he's helping low-income children get to their cancer treatments. dr. george bwelle travels into the jungles of cameroon nearly every weekend. bringing surgery to those in need. and robin emmonsvi