who is that? - ♪ a prostitute is someone who would love you ♪ ♪ no matter who you are or what you look like ♪ yes, it's true, children. ♪ that's not why you pay a prostitute ♪ ♪ no, you don't pay for her to stay ♪ . >> trevor: tonight we're talking to tavis smiley and we're talking to senator rand paul about president obama talking about everyone. i'm trevor noah and i'm talking about "the daily show." from comedy central's world news headquarters in new york, this is "the daily show" with trevor noah. (cheers and applause).

>> trevor: yeah! yes! welcome to thedaily show, everybody. i'm trevor noah. our guest tonight also an all-around nice guy, tavis smiley joins us, everybody. >> (cheers and applause). >> trevor: and we will also be joined by republican presidential candidate senator rand paul. (cheers and applause) yes slam but before that all, before that all. last night i stayed up to watch the state of the union. and it seemed like everyone was there as well. from washington's sleepiest to deepest thinkers, those guys are thinking. the world's only famous county clerk and of course senator kid was there. wouldn't that be a great sitcom? hey, everybody, it's senator kid, it's senator kid. hey, guys. my first day in congress! >> senator kid has there has been a horrible earthquake. you have to visit the survivors but first you have to be the deciding vote in the abortion

bill. >> what's abortion? >> i can't believe we elected you. (laughter). >> trevor: sorry, i can see the show. now typically a state of the union is when a president lays out his agenda for the year to come. but not this time. >> for my final address to this chamber, i don't want to just talk about next year. i want to focus on the next five years, the next ten years, and beyond. i want to focus on our future. >> trevor: i get that obama was trying to lay the ground work for the future conversation, but for a split second i was worried. because you see, in africa, when an outgoing president starts talking beyond his term-- (laughter) that's the first sign he's planning to cling on to power. for a split second i was like is obama's african side taking over

right now? (applause) i thought there was like a voice in his head where it was like, obama, it's all yours, take it now, take it now! it's like, have i to get it back-- give it back, it's a democracy. democracy? what is that? take it! so luckily the speech wasn't about a power grab. instead president obama got to reflect on his achievements as president which including reviving the economy, strengthening the military and passing health-care reform. but at the end of the term that was constantly marred by congress' refusal to get anything done, the president spent a fair amount of his speech dreaming out loud. >> we've got to accelerate the transition away from old, dirtier energy sources. we have to make college affordable for every american. >> last year vice president biden said that with a new moon shot, america can cure cancer. >> and because he's gone to the

mat for all of us on so many issues over the past 40 years, i'm putting joe in charge of mission control. let's make america the country that cures cancer once and for all. what do you say, joe? >> trevor: yeah! i love it! i love it! (applause) let's cure can semple you know what i love more, is how obama is like, america, we're going to do the impossible and solve the greatest medical challenge of our time. and this guy is going to do it all. (laughter) good luck, joe, good luck with that, buddy. good luck. i'm out of here. now the alcohol speech wasn't all forward looking. because as with every state of the yeurn, sometimes you got to tell the haters what time it is. >> isil will learn the same lessons that terrorists before them. if you doubt america's commitment, or mine to see that justice is done, just ask osama bin laden. (applause). >> trevor: oh!

so bin laden is alive! (laughter) quick, someone call sean penn, he's got an interview to do! get out there, sean penn! you get him! but you know for me, the most interesting part of the state of the union was all the subtweeting that was going on. now if you don't know what subtweeting is, it's when you talk trash about someone on twitter but you don't mention them by name. because apparently just talking trash on twitter isn't already passive aggressive enough. and obama did a lot of it last night. but the problem is subtweeting can be confusing. so here at the daily show we decided to help you the public unsub the tweets. take, for instance, obama talking about isis. >> the world will look to us to help solve these problems. and our answer needs to be more than tough talk. or calls to carpet bomb civilians. >> trevor: i know a lot of

people were thinking that the president was talking about the famed carpet bomber who went around bombing carpets to advance his radical hardwood floors agenda. when in fact this was a swipe at ted cruz who promised to carpet bomb isis. here's another subtweet. >> 60 years ago when the russians beat us into space, we didn't deny sputnik waws up there. we didn't argue about the science. >> trevor: now you see, this is interesting. because this is advanced subtweeting. because obama isn't referring to any one person in particular but more generally referring to many republicans who distrust things like climate change or the age. planet. you know, science. and what's great about this tweet is that he's got everyone looking at everyone else. it's like ben carson is sitting there like oh, mike huckabee. you just got burned.

(laughter) now of course, some of the subtweeting was so obvious it doesn't even need decoding. >> we need to reject any politics that targets people because of race or religion. when politicians insult muslims, when a mosque is vandalized or a kid is called names, that doesn't make us safer. that is not telling it like it is. it's just wrong. >> trevor: well, yeah, president obama was clearly speaking about a leading presidential republican candidate with outspoken anti-muslim views who is, to be honest, the best at everything. the problem is that person, and i'm not mentioning any names, doesn't really care if something is just wrong. in fact, i feel like just wrong makes it a lot hotter for him. and don't forget, someone wants to bang his daughter. to bang his daughter. we'll be right back.

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>> trevor: welcome back to the daily show. last fall i saw my first republican presidential debate. and you know what they say, you never forget your first. and a certain someone caught my eye. kentucky senator rand paul. now this is really true. i know it seems like a joke but

he seemed different from the others. his voice was calm. and some of his ideas seemed good. and his hair was inscribable. seeing him that night made me want to get with him in a debate of my own. but smaller, one-on-one. and tonight it's happening on "the daily show" with trevor noah gop debate singles night. so ladies and gentlemen, please welcome senator rand paul. (cheers and applause) >> thank you. >> trevor: welcome, senator. so let's get this debate. >> hold on, hold on, i want to thank you first. the thing is i was worried i wasn't going to make the debate and i did i made the debate. >> trevor: i did this for you. i did this for. >> i was so close to being excluded and are you going to beam me right in. you are going to beam me right in, right? >> trevor: this is going to be the greatest debate-- so far, i

would rather sit like this with-- it's weird. because if i ask you questions, are you-- why do you stand for the whole debate. why don't they let you sit? can we get a claire? i mean it's still a debate but you can sit. >> this is going to be serious, this isn't going to be a joke-off because i wouldn't want to beat a comedian in a scwoak-off. >> trevor: no, no, this is serious. and i wouldn't want to outjoke a republican. (laughter) let's sit. let's sit over there, we can still-- still, i mean this-- you know what, we might just loosen this up a little bit if we just-- oh, just-- oh, oh, oh, that's-- the finest kentucky bourbon, sir. >> very nice. >> trevor: i'm sure you are familiar with that. and you know, every man has a secret stash. i have some of my own over here. i like to call it issues bowr bon. that's a little blend they call war in the middle east. and what i wanted to do with you

is have a conversation, or play a little game. >> it is a drinking game. >> it is a drinking game. i mean this is normal in kentucky, i'm assuming. i will take a shot every time i feel like you're not answering my question. (laughter) because in this instance, i'm going to represent the american public. and you will represent rand paul. and i will show you how painful it is when politicians do not answer the question by taking a shot every single time. >> i think this will be better maybe, if i-- . >> trevor: there we go. yeah, this is it. (cheers and applause) >> this is it. okay. this is a real debate. let's shoot straight into it. senator rand paul, every time i watch the debate one thing is apparent when it comes to the republicans. everyone has to bomb the middle east. everyone has to destroy isis at

all costs. do you agree with this? >> well, i think the problem is, you know, you heard some of them say they are going to make the sand glow. they're going to carpet bomb things. but the problem is if you bomb civil centers and you kill civilians, will there be more terrorists or lester rests. i'm not saying that we don't defend ourselves but i'm saying we have to think about what we do before we do it, and we have to think about the ramifications of doing it. >> trevor: i thought i would be drinking by now. this is going well. i will take one anyway. (cheers and applause) okay, okay. >> this is kind of like your bachelor party where they say keep drinking and keep drinking and they're not really drinking shots and you are. >> trevor: let's go with a little blend called economy. this is interesting. one thing i picod up about you from the very beginning was that you said you wanted to deregulate.

in the shortest way possible, what does that mean? >> it means that we have to compete with the rest of the world. so we have taxes that are a burden or cost of doing business. we also have regulations that are a cost of doing business. we live in a global economy. and so often people are lamenting oh, we're losing jobs overseas. so if we make the regulatory burden too high or the tax burden too high, i think the consequence is jobs are gone. and really the people who failed to get the jobs are the workers. the owners don't feel the pain because the owners can go where they are. >> trevor: are you saying no regulations or low regulations, what does that mean? >> what i would say, for example, here say regulation, the clean water acts says you can not discharge pute lants, in the 07s i would have voatd for that. you shouldn't do that are you not allowed to dump chemicals into the river. you cannot po lawsuit someone else's property or water. however, over time, we have now decided that dirt is a poll out ant and my backyard say river.

do i object to that i think we've gone too far in interpreting things. we put a guy in mission miss in jail for ten years for putting dirt on his own land. we have 48 federal agencies that have swat teams. i mean helmets, body armour, the works. the department of education has a swat team. i think that might be an indication we've gone too far. >> trevor: or it might be an indication that the kids are [bleep] crazy. we got the to get the student loans out of them. what will they do. >> trevor: let's talk about it from a tax point of view. i heard you say you would like to implement a flat tax. >> right. >> trevor: so everyone pays the same amount in a percentage across-the-board. >> right. >> trevor: how does that work out? because some people would argue that that is not fair because if you take away-- if you say the tax is 25%, warren buffett losing 25% of his money is not as impactful on him as a person who earns minimum wage losing 25% of his money. >> can we change the rules and every time we say warren butt

ef-- buffett we have to drink. >> trevor: we can do that. i won't say it again. >> no, i think that right now there are many wealthy people in our country who pay no taxes. there are many wealthy corporations who pay no taxes. if you had a 14.5% rate, some people would pay more. but i want a government smaller. see i quait the bigger the government is, the more freedom you have to give up. so i want a smaller government so people are left alone and are more free. >> trevor: people left alone to do what? >> whatever the hell they want to do. i want people to be left alone. i don't want the government telg you what you can smoke, what you can drink or what you can read. >> trevor: i think now that you mentioned it, drugs is up there. that's nice. >> i thought my agent said we would not talk about president. >> trevor: we're going to talk about drugs. >> al right. >> trevor: and just like most drug things, we're going to continue this online. we'll be right back. (air horn, trap door opening) rootmetrics, in the nation's largest independent study,

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my guest tonight is the host of pbs's tavis smiley. he's also a best selling author whose latest imook which is an update to an earlier version is called the covenant with black america, ten years later. please welcome tavis smiley. (cheers anapplause) >> hold up, first of all, so the senator gets like serious libation and i get a half a cup of water? is that how brothers get treated around here? >> trevor: well, i got the other half of the cup of water. >> oh, okay, okay. i don't feel so bad. >> trevor: thank you so much for being here. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> you are doing a great job. >> trevor: i appreciate it. thank you so much. (cheers and applause). >> trevor: have i to till, everyone in the building say huge fan of yours, taferrist smiling is coming, so amazing, he's inoperational. and then i read your book and i was like if this is-- this is

inspiration? no, because your book is about how america has failed black people for the 240th straight year. >> yeah, pretty much. >> trevor: how close is america to breaking that streak? >> not close enough. this book as you mentioned came out ten years ago and laid out the ten issues that are most important to african-americans, which is really a national plan of action for what we could do to hold ourselves responsible and others kbility. sov course on the 10th anniversary you go back and you ask the obvious question, how have we done. and sadly, and it pains me to say this, black folk have lost ground, refer, in every leading economic category over the last ten years. so these issues are clearly on the dock et before obama slows up. >> trevor: that cannot be right, that fact cannot be right. >> i'm sorry, brother, it's right. >> trevor: i've seen the-- everyone says it. 25 sitting on 125 million. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> trevor: i don't even know how much i made last yeemplet i can't even count. >> yeah. >> trevor: what are you telling me?

>> that worked for drake. but that doesn't work for the rest of us. and i'm like marry j and j-z, i ain't knocking nobody's hustle. but at the end of the day, the majority of african-americans have lost ground in every major economic category. here's the things, these issues were clearly on the dock et before obama shows up and wins in 2008 but they have got enworse over the last ten years so you can't miss the parallel, obviously to his administration. not all his fault but more could have been done. but at the end of the day, when you have a constituency that significant in the country, that is going under, you can't just ignore that or render their suffering invisible. >> trevor: this is a book that has numbers, statistics, but more importantly, suggestions as to how things can be fixed. so then i ask you in terms of racism, how do you fix racism. >> first of all, you have to admit that it is a legal issue. while some see it as the most intractable issue in the country, something is wrong when in the era of the first black president, black boys and black men are still being shot down in the streets like dogs, and too many cops are getting away with it. something is wrong.

when black women continue to die disproportionately from too many preventible diseases. something is wrong when black children can't get access to an equal high quality education. something is wrong when environmental racism is still this real. something is wrong when the digital divide is still this broad. don't tell me we can't do something to redeem the soul of this country by saving black america. >> trevor: okay so racism, you said as well poverty. how do you fix that. people would argue that it is generations and generations of a poverty divide. the wealth gap has been created. you can't fix that overnight. how do you challenge that. >> there is a class war in this country taking place right now. it is the war being waged against the poor. the problem is that where poverty is concerned, there is a highway into poverty but barely a sidewalk out. you have three groups that make up the poor in this country. the perennially poor, the near poor, folks just a paycheck or two away, and the new poor who are the former middle class. so the poverty is threatening

our very democracy. it is now a matter of national security. if we don't prioritize poverty and income inequality, we don't even want to sate p word, poverty. it is also its conversation, in this campaign right now about the middle class. i repeat, the new poor are the former middle class. we can't seen say the word, how do we get to real solutions, that is why i'm ground bernie sanders and others are raising this issue and forcing meak to have a conversation about it. >> trevor: let me challenge you on something, then. because it's easy for you to sai. >> you're going challenge me? you're going to challenge me? >> trevor: i'm going to challenge you. >> okay. >> trevor: you talk about racism but you are a racist. >> ooh. >> trevor: and i know this because donald trump tweeted-- (laughter) that-- this is serious, people! this is serious! he tweeted that you are a racist. >> uh-huh. >> trevor: how do you respond to those allegations? >> my grandmother big mamma,

said to me repeatedly, tavis, baby, be careful of stooping so low that you can't get back up. and i don't want to stoop so low that i can't get back up. i will say this that done alt trump tweeted this, you know, this thing about me. i was on a morning show on sunday, one of the sunday morning shows, within hours he had tweeted about me, based on his not liking what i said about him on the show. >> trevor: you probably said some facts. >> something like that. >> trevor: it happens. >> so that a few days before i appeared on this sunday show, there was a white supremacist group that started doing robocalls as you probably know, on his behalf, a white supremacist group doing robocalls for done all trump. now unless something happened in the last ten minutes before i walked on this set, he still has not gotten around to denouncing the white supremacist group doing robocalls on his behalf, and he's messing with me? with me? >> trevor: with you? laws

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>> trevor: that's our show for tonight. now here it is, your moment of zen. >> the notion that trump is appealing to democrats is smith, not math, the better part today going through polls, trump has a higher among democrats than various forms of sif lis. >> larry: tonightly, president obama says in his final state of the union that anyone claiming america's economy is in decline is "peddling fiction." america's like, "who cares? we can't read!" ( laughter ) homophobic kentucky clerk