>> trevor: that's our show for tonight. thank you so much for tuning in. join us tomorrow night at 11:00. now here it is... your moment of zen. >> my hands are too big. >> from comedy central's world news headquarters in new york, this is "the daily show" with trevor noah. >> trevor: welcome to the daily show, thank you so much for tuning inment i appreciate t i'm trevor noah our guest tonight joining us to talk about the future of artificial

intelligence linkedin cofounder reid hoffman is joining us, everybody. (applause). >> trevor: but first, but first there's yet another video of a police stop gone wrong. it's from cobb county georgia and this one is a weird one. it's a weird one this time. the person in the car is a white woman. and the cop is speaking, you know what, just watch. >> fuse your phone, it's in your lap right now. >> i just don't want to put my hands down. i'm really sorry. >> no, no, i have seen way too many videos of cops killing people. >> but you're not black, remember, we only kill black people, yeah, we only kill black people, right. >> trevor: apparently in the cop's defense was that he was trying to calm the woman down, that is what they said he was doing am but i can see why it wasn't working because the cop says relax, we only shoot black people am and she must have been thinking i thought you only pulled over black people and yet

here we are. i am not taking any chances with you. and you know what is crazy, this footage is from his own dashcam. it always amazes me that coulds say stuff like this when they know that they are being taped. what does he say when the camera is not on on. he only kill black people, now turn it off. okay, we kill white people too, turn it back on. turn it back on. this is madness. over the last several weeks we v see protests break out over all over the u.s. one peaceful and one not so much. one caught me eye within anarchist wearing black musics a-- sciks people were injured and 13 arrested. >> trevor: dammity, berkeley, another fight, there is so much violence breaking out in berkeley they should start offering a degree in ass whopping, i'm late for my head locking 101 class, my professor is going to kill me, unless i kill him nirs. time to earn that a, baby.

so another peaceful protest, interrupted by violence. the question is who are these black-clad mystery fighters coming from the alt >> the an-- antagonists are a loose group of preferred to the anti-fa movement short for antifascist. >> trevor: anti-fa, that is a great name, short, punchy, excuse the pun and most importantly you don't have to know how to spell fascist, i like that. no, which i don't need because it is easy, p- h-y-n-- you know what i mean. we know who they are. the question is what is anti-fa all about. that is the first pob. because anti-fa has no defined leadership. there is no clear way to know what they are actually meant to do. and not do for that matter. so for instance, some anti-fa members say their purpose is to make life difficult for nazis

and white supremacists. >> why hunt these people down, what is your goal, to expose them. >> exactly because no one is paying a teng to them and sooner or later they will be your police officers, your politicians they're going to be your teachers, they will be people that you cannot touch. and i don't want that to happen. >> trevor: now that sounds awesome, right. this guy is basically working to expose them by docking them online. this guy is doing for society what women do for their best friends, you know, girl, i know he seems normal but there is something you should know about him. he's a nazi who never calls back when he says he will. so that is what some members of antifa do, expose nazis and racist, internet shaming, the thing people thought they would do to kim kardashian and she became a superstar. for others the movement is more about friendship and fun. >> bob and tom are friends. they both like obscure japanese video games, anime and punk music but over the past six months they had something new to bond over.

bob and tom are now antifa. >> this is nasty. >> how much of this is just sort of like an online kosplay. >> i feel like there is a pretty strong element of that. >> the alt-right, an i me and video games they say belong to them. it's not true. it belongs toarve. (laughter). >> trevor: i am not going to lie, on my list of complaints of the alt-right, them trying to own japanese video games is, let's say, not on my list. like honestly, i would be happy to trade. i think america would be happy to trade as well. america gets diversity and the alt-right gets tech. i'm playing eddie, i am eddie. that is some of the people, they just want-- and then some of antifa say they want to burn it all down. >> the world got a glim paragraphs of these tactics in

action when some clad all in black smashed the windows of a starbucks and a bank of america. just blocks away some members of lacy mccauley's antifa group disrupt j20 swung into action torching a limousine and scuffling with police. >> breaking a window is a symbolic act. windows break all the time, things break all the time. >> trevor: yeah, especially when you throw rocks through them. that is someone who clearly doesn't have a black grandmother. like if i ever tried that [bleep] with my grandma, she would antifa my ass. grandma, things break all the time. and she would be like and are you about to be one of them. you are about to be one of them. but seriously, though. like breaking a window was a symbolic act? you might think in t is some deep statement but most people see that and think great, now i've got to walk a whole block up to the next starbucks. like who is that supposed to convince what are you trying to do. it definitely doesn't convince

the starbucks guy, the person who will be in the store cleaning up the glass saying yeah, they made a got point about fascism, i understand what they mean, i understand it. no, they don't think like that. you know, and you've got these antifa members who believe that smashing bleap bleep is all they should do. others want to expose neo nazis and part of antifa has only been about video imgas. but the part that has been caution the most headaches is the one that is hitting people in the head. >> antifa is any group that is willing to stand up against fascists by any means necessary. >> not afraid to play rough. >> what happened. >> i was walking in the street and this guy sucker punched me in the back of the head. >> you see now, here is the real problem. it doesn't matter what your noble goal may be. it doesn't matter what you say you are fighting for. when people see that, all they think is oh [bleep] it is vegan isis because you don't realize, you don't realize when you think you are punching nazis, you

don't realize that you are also punching your cause. because your opponents will just use every violent incident to discredit your entire movement and they make it seem like, they make it seem like in a world where white supremacists have a friend in the white house, the real problem is you guys. >> america is waking up to the menace of antifa. >> a dangerous, violent group. >> the ultimate irony of this movement which styles it self as antifascist is it it itself fascist is particular, people getting offer on destroying other people's property. i think they are total thugs. radical, leftist, antifa thugs. >> we should urge everyone to consider presessing this idea of declaring antifa a terrorist organization. >> they've got clubs and they've got everything. andifa. >> antifa! antifa! >> trevor: he pronounces it like he is introducing them at the latin grammys. ladies and gentlemen, hombres

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>> pick up for ronnie chieng. >> right, 25 milli gram, for toxo o o practices mow circumstances i got it from my koot, you just need to have touched cat feces and not washed your hands and put it in your mouth, which happens more than you think. >> okay that is 45,595 and 10 krpt. >> did you say 45,499 dollars. >> and ten cents. >> how is that even possible. how did this medicine become so expensive. i went home to do some research. yes, there is how i do research, it's the future, okay. deal with it. >> one tablet used to cost $13.50, the drug maker recently increased the price to $750. >> apparently in america drug companies can do whatever the hell they want. and that is exactly what this asshole did remember martin shkreli the one who raised the price of the lifesaving drug. >> in response to this attention are you going to change the price? >> no.

>> i also found out that a group in australia managed to replicate the same drug for just $2 a pill. at that price it is cheaper for me to buy it in australia than in america. so i did. and guess what, the scientists responsible were-- these high school nerds. meet the young chemist from the all boy's high school. >> man, i love it. all that time you could have wasted going on dates and having a life you channeled into your science. >> yeah. >> what we are trying to do is just to demonstrate that this drug doesn't deserve to be price hugged to 750 a pill. >> i think people appreciate it. >> except for one guy without went on a tweeting rampage against them when their success started to make headlines. >> never, ever compare your game to mine. highest yield. best piert, most scale, i have the synthesis game on lock. >> we were able to do this in a school lab with cheap school equipment compared to a flullee fledged facility, we go very

high yield, high purity, our synthesis game is also on lock, shkreli. >> snap, they talk science and trash and they can back it up. >> it want magic stuff he made. >> there st. >> wonderful little beautiful white powder. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> how much is that worth. >> it's about worth a bit over $100,000. >> $100,000. >> in the u.s., yes. >> how did you sell braitd your new found wealth. >> we didn't make money for t we are making it to prove a poipt really. >> hang be. so you created a drug and you made no money from it. >> yeah. >> what are they teaching you at this school? >> science. >> clearly these kids were only in it for the good of humanity or whatever. but someone had to be profiting off that so i arranged to sit down with the real master mind behind this operation. the hardened criminal that was exploiting these students.

>> ronnie? >> so the drug lords were actually these scientists working for the open source mall aria-- and they were cracking the code behind dozens of drugs including daraprinciple. >> the aim is try and make medicines more accessible to people. it only takes a few steps. and high-school students can do it. so why is it so expensive? >> why is it so expensive. >> well, shkreli bought the marketing rights because of a loophole in the states. >> the loopholes allow this company to charge whatever it likes for this drug. >> isn't that a good thing, they can put their money toic mack the drug better. >> well, there has been no development on this medicine for over 60 years it is off patent it was invented in the '50s. so there seems to be no reason to raise the price by over 5 and a half thousand percent. >> you are sitting on a gold mine here. >> i think he is really misunderstanding what is going on here. >> i'm not saying 750 eye pill, we're not animals. like $500 a pill. >> we don't want this. >> but you could. >> but no.

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welcome back to the show. >> excellent to be here. >> trevor: good to be here, good to be talking about artificial intelligence. you people in silicon valley are making the future. people are terrified of the future. but we talk about artificial intelligence we have to break it down into two groups, really, and that is narrow artificial intelligence which is like a chess computer or self-driving car but then there is artificial intelligence like arnold schwarzenegger, all right? we want to talk about that. what excites you most about artificial intelligence. >> i think that artificial intelligence has a pont of curing disease it has a possibility of essentially revolutionizing almost every industry. and it has a possibility of essentially making productivity in every industry. and so that, as long as we do it the right way and involve people the right way. >> trevor: right. >> i think that can be a great feature. >> give me an example of how it would revolutionize an stli. >> well, so, you already mentioned like cars.

so you create vehicles, essentially illuminate the parking lots t eliminates traffic congestion, it essentially enables maybe a new set of suburbs and constructions so that you can actually go to different places and you can either be working, sleeping or partying while you are driving to and from work. >> why are you partying while you are driving to work? what kind of work do you work at. >> well, i like my work. >> i want to work at your hoffs, i'm partying on the way to work. >> that is the way we all sort of understand. >> here is what everyone struggles with. the artificial intelligence that we are warned about, so you are one of the people who has come out and said hey, we've got to be cautious when it comes to artificial intelligence because it could kill us all. >> i'm para phrasing you, obviously. that's what i heard. that's what i heard. >> i heard kill us all. >> will artificial intelligence kill us all? >> very unlikely, i think. i think that. >> so possibly. >> yes. >> okay, now i understand how

you heard, finallyas rights might kill us, nubbing clear weapons might kill us all. >> trevor: i'm not making asteroids for a reason. >> but there are nuclear weapons. >> trevor: right, but why, why, should we be weary of artificial intelligence. >> the actual thing that everyone worries about is the terminator movie. i think that the likelihood of that story is pretty low. >> trevor: with the growth of artificial intelligence, there is a threat to a job as we know it. >> yes. >> trevor: it happens with every revolution work every evolution, every idea that changes. so with the telephone and the exchanges, with the telephone being inventedded, all of a sudden the exchange broke apart, the mobile phone changes, we no longer need to ask somebody to connect the call, now you can just get the call connected with the computer. >> yes. >> trevor: and people lost their jobs. >> yes. >> trevor: now more jobs are created over time but there is always that gap where there are no jobs. >> 100%. >> in silicon valley are you considering this, think being all of the people that would lose jobs in the interim, the people who would lose a job as a driver, the person who would

lose a job as a truck driver, the person who would lose a job as a teacher's assistant because now a robot is doing it. >> not everybody is thinking about it but a bunch are think being it. think being how do we build ai that also help people whether it is helping you reskill for new jobs or help you do the job better. so it's both threats. there are people thinking about how do i make it so the robot can dot whole jofnlt and also people who say how do i make the robot actually impact, able to help people do the job much better. >> trevor: okay. so the robot teaches me to do the job and now the robot can do the job, and like why would the robot not want to make me not exist? >> well,. >> trevor: like why would the robot need me now is what i am saying. >> well, the robot might need you for a number of reasons. for one thing is there is a variety-- we don't know what the current curve in artificial intelligence where it will kind of curve off, the person to perntion the emotional connection, there is a certain

amount of creativity s it the fact that the robot plus the person together actually in fact perform a lot better. >> trevor: right. >> but that is also possible, there are a lot of different options here. and so and then you get to the whole question of the robot wanting. so you eluded to this in the beginning which is when do rob the os become fully entities sentient people and then what language of want describes them. and it is easy to tell human stories where you project human wants and i can do this be jo, i don't need you lousy human. i'm unclear that the robot will react that way, how do we train it, how do we essentially bring it into it. the way i talk to my colleagues about this and this may be too abstract but it is how do we create sim bee owe sis so that we are both better together and that is the design target of what we should be doing. >> trevor: so looking into the near future, what is the one most exciting thing that we should all be looking forward to when it comes to artificial intelligence? >> i think the most exciting thing is probably a much faster

path to curing diseases because using ai to figure out what is going on with diseases, which remedies might work and how you might fix it might impact greatly expand human life across the planet. >> trevor: exciting and frightening at the same time. thank you so much for being on the show. >> i appreciate it. >> trevor: be sure to listen to the pod. reid hoffman, everybody. we'll be right back.

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