>> from comedy central's world news headquarters in new york, this is "the daily show" with trevor noah. ( cheers and applause ) ♪ >> trevor: what's going on? thank you! thank you very much! welcome to "the daily show," everybody! thank you so much for tuning in! i'm trevor noah! thank you so much, everybody! thank you! tonight -- tonight -- tonight our guest is the former attorney general under barack obama, eric holder is here, everybody! ( cheers and applause ) we're going to have a really great conversation with him. but first -- but first, as many of you know, today is tax day.

aka, the day when the federal government turns into rihanna, bitch better have my money! ( laughter ) but in case tax day wasn't stressful enough, this happened. >> the i.r.s. has a serious problem. it's web site has not been able to process payments from income tax tilers' banks since about 2:00 a.m. the government has just under 9 hours to get the error message cleared. >> treasury secretary teach mnuchin says americans have been unable to pay their taxes today will get an extension -- >> trevor: no, no, we don't want an extension, i.r.s. you get one day to accept taxes and then if you can't do it, that's on you. nobody pays if you miss your day. ( cheers and applause ) i'm putting it out there. those are the rules! those are the rules i just made up but i think we can all agree on it. yeah, i think we can. there's only one day that the i.r.s. web site needs to be up and this is it. it's like if the easter bunny ran out of eggs and is, like,

listen, i can have more by arbor day -- no, get out of here you wack-ass rabbit. the latest in the trump investigation saga. like breaking bad, the shadia lawyer got his own spawfn and it's pretty entertaining. >> in court a judge rejected a request on behalf of president trump's private lawyer and fixer michael cohen to stop federal fraughts poring through client records seized in cohen in f.b.i. raids last week. >> cohen asked a federal judge to allow president trump to go through and determine which documents can be withheld from the investigation because of attorney-client privilege. >> trevor: you know, sometimes trump is so dumb it's almost cute. ( laughter ) like, he actually thought the court would let him decide which documents could be used against him. imagine anyone else having the balls to try that with the f.b.i.

they're at the the door, this is the f.b.i., we've got a warrant! okay, you guys tell me what you're looking for and i'll get it. ( laughter ) no responsible judge would trust trump with evidence of any kind. i can imagine trump alone in the room with the documents and the judge is, like, do i hear a shredder? trump is, like, no, i'm just shaving my pubes. the funny thing is if it turns turns out he was actually shaving his pubes in there. these documents are covered in pubes, they won't want to touch them. so smart, donald! so smart! ( laughter ) that was hardly the biggest michael cohen news because yesterday a federal judge forced cohen to reveal that in addition to the president he also secretly represented fox news host sean hannity. everyone thought hannity being busted his hilarious, news networks laughing, late night hosts, school children, creatures of the sea. turns out embarrassing sean hannity is the one thing truly

everyone can enjoy. >> tonight from washington, no one else is talking about sean hannity today, but he's here anyway. ( laughter ) i'm really glad to see him. >> any news? anything happening? all right, thanks, tucker. >> i'll just say this, you're like my brother but i'm glad for like a millisecond the heat's off me and on you, okay? >> i appreciate that. >> trevor: yo, it says a lot about your news network when all your stop anchors are playing scandal tag. i made fun of the parkland kids, time out! thank god! even though yesterday might have sucked for hannity it helped his ratings because everyone tuned in to see his creative excuse to explain his michael cohen relationship. and the answer was, it's complicated. >> let me set the record straight, mary's the truth, michael cohen never represented me in any legal matter. i never retained his services. i never received an invoice. i never paid michael cohen for legal fees.

i did have occasional brief conversations with michael cohen, he's a great attorney, about legal questions i had where i was looking for input and perspective. >> trevor: he wasn't your lawyer, h he just answered your legal questions? ( laughter ) how do you not know the definition of lawyer when your head is shaped like a dictionary? ( laughter ) how do you not know this? seriously, giving legal input and perspective is exactly what a lawyer does. hannity might as well have come out and said, he was just my lawyer but just the tip, just the tip, guys. just the tip. ( laughter ) what people are really wondering is this, whatever legal advise was, why didn't hannity get it from his regular attorney, right? instead of turning to a guy specifically known for paying off mistresses. why did he go to him? according to hannity, baby, this is not what it looks like. >> to be absolutely clear, they never involved any matter, any -- sorry to disappoint

many -- matter between me a third party, a third group at all, and my questions are almost exclusively focused on real estate. >> trevor: he slipped in the "almost." super quick. all my questions to michael cohen were exclusively almost real estate. exclusively almost. like the medical adds, exclusively almost. exclusively almost is the kind of phrase that makes people ask more questions. if someone tells you they exexclusively almost have sex with adults you're not hiring them to baby sit your kids. that's not what you're thinking of now. but hannity claims he was getting informal real estate advice from michael cohen which makes what he said a few hours earlier on his radio show all the more confusing. >> i never gave him a retainer, never received an invoice, never paid any fees. i might have handed him ten bucks, i definitely want attorney-client privilege on this, something like that.

>> trevor: okay, whoa, whoa, wait. so he's not your lawyer. all you had was a few chit chats about real estate but you definitely want attorney-client privilege, definitely want that. what did you bury under that house? ( laughter ) i'm just saying i've had a lot of conversations about real estate, at the end i never went, this never happened... ( laughter ) you know what gets me is how casually hannity is trying to minimize his connection to michael cohen like it means nothing, especially when every other day of the year he's the guy who can bake a conspiracy cake out of nothing more than an egg and the hoard hillary. >> let's talk about a family responsible for actual crimes. we'll tall it the head of the notorious political kabal, of course, bill and hillary clinton, the clinton crime family. if we're going to crime families let's look at the mueller crime family and, well, this is near and dear to comey's heart, we'll call comey crime family. >> trevor: i like how hannity

puts a question mark attend of each one. i didn't say mueller runs a crime family. i said mueller runs a crime family? ( laughter ) well, folks, i have a theory of my own and i think it's going to bust the hannity michael cohen story open. get ready to have your minds blown because i believe i've uncovered a complex criminal network. my theory is that sean hannity is a client of michael cohen. ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) look, we may never know the true nature of hannity and cohen b's relationship, but what we do know is that as someone is discussing cohen and his case on the airstrikes hannity should have been more transparent, right? he should have said something about it.

what hannity did was so shady, even when he tried to talk about other things on his show, his own guests thewed call him out. please do enjoy. >> a foreign national using russian sources of all things to get it, is that a crime in an dershowitz' book? >> first of all, sean, i do want to say that i really think you should have disclosed your relationship with cohen when you talked about him on this show. i think it would have been much, much better had you disclosed that relationship. >> trevor: if you were to understand the nature of it, professor, i'm going to deal wit later in the show. >> i understand. you should have said that and it would have been fair to say it was minimal. you had the right, by the way, not to have your identity revealed. >> i have the right to privacy, i do. >> buttates complex situation when you're speaking -- >> professor, it was such a minor relationship in terms of -- >> you should have said that. >> trevor: you should have said that. you should have said that.

you should have said that. keepers that was priceless. keep in mind, this guy alan dershowitz isn't a hater. he's been a vocal defender of president trump and a frequent guest on hannity's show. you know that's how it's bad for hannity, he's called out by someone on his own team. this reminded me of the one deleted scene from "star wars" when the storm troopers called out their boss. >> now we can finally destroy the rebels. >> sir, real quick, we all think you should have disclosed your relationship with luke skywalker. >> what? i barely know the guy. he's not even my son. it's more like a baby-momma thing. >> sir, you should have told us. >> this isn't a big deal. ugh! i have a right to privacy! >> if it wasn't a big deal, why didn't he tell us? what a dick. >> trevor: yeah, it's true, that scene was exclusively

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( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome back to "the daily show"! my guest tonight is the former attorney general of the united states and chairman of the national democratic redistricting committee. please welcome eric holder! ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome to the show. >> good to be here. >> trevor: great to have you on, especially now there are so many things to talk to you about as a former attorney general. >> there have been things happening? >> trevor: things have been happening. >> really? >> trevor: you haven't been on the twitter? the twitter has things happening. >> i was flying from l.a. today. so i must have missed it. >> trevor: you missed a year. yeah, we'll get into comey, the president and all that stuff later. i wanted to start with the news break today. starbucks announced they would be closing 8,000 of their stores to have a day of racial bias training, and in the press release they mentioned you as one of the experts they're going to consult. how does that work?

you walk in and do role play with them and you will be, like, can i use the bathroom? they're, like, no, you're, like, you're supposed to say yes. ( laughter ) what are you going to do and think needs to be done. >> i think starbucks is a company that has done a lot around racial issues and i think they understand what happened in philadelphia was inappropriate, wrong, and they're going to try to get things right. i think they will close the stores, go through unconscious bias training, put together a panel which i am a member to help advise them in that regard and hopefully not have a repeat of that. i think we should not as a society, as a comfort feel comfort in the notion this is a starbucks problem. this is a problem at the is much larger, this is a problem that our nation has to deal with. >> trevor: one of the issues you're dealing with right now is in many ways tied to race in america. cannot be separated and that's gerrymandering. you're working on a project right now that deals with gerrymandering. what are you doing? >> head of the national democratic redistricting committee.

what we want to to try to do is mutt in place when redistricting is done again in 20 is -- 2021t fair districts are drawn. republicans drew unfair districts. princeton said they were the worst in the last 50 years. as a result, we see safe districts for republicans that have led to a variety of things, unresponsive congress, unresponsive state legislators. 97% of the american people want expanded background checks when it comes to the sale of guns can't get it out of coming because of a gerrymandererred congress. >> trevor: you're working with the democratic redistricting committee. does that imply that you're looking to sway it in favor of democrats? >> no. i wouldn't have signed up for this if it was an attempt to gerrymander for democrats. i think if we make this a battle between republicans, conservatives, democrats and progressives, the democrats and progressives will do just find. i don't need gerrymandering because we're right on the

issues, i think we have the support of the people. if you look at, for instance, wisconsin, 2012 after the gerrymandering, republicans get less than 50% of the vote and 67% of the state legislature and 67% of the congressional representation and that's continued for the entirety of this decade that. has to be stopped. >> trevor: some would argue there's no way to redraw lines on a map in a way that will represent people because, if you look at how america is designed and where people live, democrats live mostly in cities, democrats live in the same places, it will will cities or you will find democrats in college towns or you will find them in historic mining communities and manufacturing hubs, so you will find democrats in certain places, and then they're dwamped dwamped -- dwarfed by republican rural votes around them. seems like you can't really draw the maps. feel likes you're trying to fix a problem but the underlying problem can't be fixed. >> that's one of the myths about gerrymandering. there is something to be said

about the way in which democrats and republicans cluster but that does not explain the way in which you have seen these partisan district being drawn. >> trevor: right. >> tore results that you have seen as a result of this gerrymandering. the notion that all a function of -- if you're trying to ameliorate this that you can't do it because to have the the way -- where democrats live is simply not true. >> trevor: what do you think is the a greater threat to america's democracy, gerrymandering or voter i.d. laws that suppress the vote? >> they go hand in hand. you see the greater amount of voter suppression and gerrymandering. when you see high levels of gerrymandering in states you see these unnecessary voter i.d. laws to combat this non-existent voter fraud. >> trevor: right. >> so they go hand in hand. >> trevor: the only problem i have with your approach is if you redraw -- >> you've got a problem with our approach? >> trevor: i've got a problem. >> i'm just guest, man!

>> trevor: yeah. if you redraw these lines, the problem i have if your approach is you will exclude the 3 million illegal votes. what happens then? ( laughter ) it's not in the water, it's in the air. ( applause ) we'll be chatting for with rerk rerk after the break. we'll get into comey and the ag's job, after this. well, here's to first dates! you look amazing. and you look amazingly comfortable. when your v-neck looks more like a u-neck...

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"the daily show." we're joined by former attorney general eric holder on the show talking about gerrymandering, the future of america and its votes. right now some people feel like america doesn't have a future because of what's happening in

the white house. james comey just came out with a book where he publicly lambasted trump saying that he's a liar, he mistreats women, he is not fit to be in office. a lot of people came out -- >> jim got those three things right. >> trevor: it's interesting you say that. a lot of people say that. but james comey, you're the last person to criticize anybody because of how much you screwed up when you were in your position. as an attorney general, when you look at what james comey did and what he's now trying to say, what are your thoughts on the issue? >> i've known jim for 20, 25 years or so. i think he's a man of integrity. i think he is a good guy but i think he made a really substantial error? 2016 when he made that initial appearance and said that he was clearing hillary clinton and used that language and obviously made the statement later on. that was not something for an f.b.i. director to do. >> trevor: right. >> that was something for an attorney general to do or in the absence of the attorney general the deputy attorney general. >> trevor: right.

>> he was out of his lane when he did that. and that i think had an impact on the election. i don't think that's the sole thing that caused hillary's defeat but it certainly had an impact on the election. >> trevor: and you're outspoken about this. you said he made a mistake and said it was something that would give the f.b.i. a bad name. the president of the united states currently says the f.b.i. has a bad name. do you think donald trump then has a right to say, guys, the f.b.i. has problems because of everything that james comey and his fellow f.b.i. agents have done? >> no. i mean, i think the president's criticism of people in law enforcement, prosecutors, f.b.i. agents, is unwarranted, it's inconsistent with the facts. i mean, i work with these folks almost all of my professional career. they're hard working, dedicated. you know, you don't talk about partisan things when you are in the justice department. that's considered something that is -- that's inappropriate. and what i think -- so we hold these elections in 2018 and in 2020 and if the republicans try

to portray themselves as the law enforcement party, i hope people will remember the things donald trump has said about people in law enforcement. >> trevor: yeah, things -- people will remember and they will vote for him again. his people don't care. i genuinely think they don't care. >> don't do it. don't do it. >> trevor: i don't think they're watching you. ( laughter ) you're wasting your time. >> that's a good point. somebody could have switched off from hannity tonight. >> trevor: you never know. >> they might be out there. >> trevor: yeah, don't do it. don't do it. when you look at 2020, i've heard rumors you are considering running for president. is it just one of those situations where -- ( cheers and applause ) yeah, it's true. >> i'm seeing about, like, maybe about 53% here. >> trevor: you would have expected a larger number with this crowd. i think people are used to everyone denying it. everyone is like, no, no. and you're just, like, yeah,

that's right, let's go. >> let's do this thing! >> trevor: yeah, let's do it! ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) that's a great slogan, eric holder, let's do this thing! that's a great slogan. you've got to do that as well. ( laughter ) is it one of those case where is you've gone, like, george bush, barack obama, donald trump, and another black man has to come if now. why would you see yourself as someone who could potentially run the united states of america? >> i'm thinking about this. i haven't committed myself to it. >> trevor: trump makes it look easier. but i understand. carry on. >> if i were to do this, i think i would look back on a long government career, my time as an attorney general where i was exposed to a whole range of issues, domestic, foreign policy, national security. i think aim person who has a great deal of creativity. nibble this nation, the people of this nation, i believe this nation can be led to bigger and

better and creator things. i still have hope for america. >> trevor: wow, thank you so much for being on the show. pleasure having you. eric holder, everybody. we'll be right back! ( cheers and applause ) it's funny really, nobody ever does it and yet it happens. i didn't do it and of course it's the really tough stains that nobody ever does ready? really? i didn't do it so when i heard they added ultra oxi to the cleaning power of tide, i knew it was just what we needed so now we can undo all the tough stains that nobody did dad? i didn't do it huh, he didn't do it introducing new tide ultra oxi; it's got to be tide

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>> okay, a, i don't think you can talk about all of the american people. i'm asking you yourself, have you ever heard the president lie? >> have not. >> really? ( cheers and applause ) >> jordan: stormy daniels has revealed new evidence in her fake story. >> here is the reveal of the sketch of the man who stormy daniels claimed threatened her. >> and to your recollection, is that the person that threatened you? >> absolutely. >> jordan: please! how much is her so-called "recollection" worth? $130,000? plus, she's lying! look, no guy that hot has to threaten porn stars for money. ( laughter ) i know the obama economy was bad, but you're telling me there wasn't a single opening for shirtless guy at abercrombie & fitch? wait a minute-- that guy looks familiar. chuck, let's see that again. good god. ( laughter )