>> from comedy central's world news headquarters in new york, this is "the daily show" with trevor noah. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome to "the daily show," everybody. thank you for tuning in. thank you for coming out. i'm trevor noah. my guest tonight is a rap icon who put out one of my favorite albums this year. pusha t is here, everybody. ( cheers and applause )

joining us on the show. and i'm not going to lie-- after his beef with drake i'm a little nervous to interview him because we've all seen what he can do to light-skinned brothers. but first, let's catch up on today's headlines. there's a ton of stuff in the news today. cbs announced it was firing les moonves without paying him his $120 million in severance. japan said it was getting back into the military game, building its first arcraft carrier since world war ii. basically, japan is like louis c.k.: we did something bad, but i think enough time has passed. we have to get back into the game right now. and if you love weapons and the news of the trump administration banning bump stocks has you sad, new york state is about to turn that frown upside down. >> a federal judge rules new york's statewide ban on nunchucks is unconstitutional under the second amendment. the ban on the martial arts weapon was adopted in 1974. there were fears the popularity of kung fu films would lead to

criminals, especially young gang members, using nunchucks. >> trevor: yes! do you hear that, people. nunchucks are back, baby! ( cheers and applause ) they're back! back! what? i feel like i'm 14 years old again. i'm going to buy some nunchucks and then go home and masturbate furiously. ( laughter ) and all of this is happening thanks to the lawsuit of one very committed new yorker. cowabunga, dude. thank you! ( cheers and applause ) i will say-- i will say new york clearly has its priorities off. like, it's taking forever to legalize weed, but nunchucks are now fair game? ( laughter ) like, of all the cities in america, new york is the worst place to legalize nunchucks. everyone is already highly strung, and now you're throwing in ninja tools? like, subway fights are about to get real. the only good thing about new york is that it's maybe too crowded to actually pull your arm out. people are going to be on the train like, "man, if i had-- if i had two feet.

oh, man. like you? and you, (bleep) lady. i would be all-- i swear to god, once this train clears out after canal street, i'm going to kick all your ass. for now, i'm just going to make the bruce lee sound." ( laughter ) i will say, though, the one benefit of nunchucks is that it's the only weapon that hurts the user more than the victim. i like that. yeah, it will just be like someone mugging you. "give me all your-- ahh. give me-- ahhh." yeah, if i'm in a nunchuck mugging, there's a 50% chance i will walk away with his watch. i like that. moving on to some other news. by now, we all know about the gender wage gap between men and women. it's really the worst gap after the baby gap-- nothing in my size. ( laughter ) and today, today, the world economic forum released a study saying that the gender wage gap is going away! ( cheers and applause ) yeah! in-- in 202 years.

sorry, i should have led with that part. yeah. which, let's be honest, is bad news for everyone who is alive today because it means at this rate, we won't live to see the gap close. except for jennifer lopez, who is the only person aging slowly enough, yeah, because in 200 years, she'll be like, what, 57? i think? no, wait, 58, 58. moving on to some technology news, it turns out people hate it. >> people are slashing tires, throwing rocks, pointing guns at self-driving cars. people in arizona have recorded 21 incidents of this in the past two years. now, "the arizona republic" reports in other cases, people stood in front of the vehicles to prevent them from driving, yelled at them, chased them, and forced them off the road. the article says people appear to be frustrated by their presence. ( laughter ) >> trevor: people-- people are chasing and yelling at cars? ( laughter ) i'm pretty sure this has less to do with self-driving cars and more to do with arizona's meth

problem. ( laughter ) because someone shouting at a car just sounds like a crazy guy who's seen "transformers" way too many times. he's like: "hey, you bumblebee? you bumblebee? i know you're bumblebee. bumblebee, i know you're there! i kind of understand it, though. it has got mess with you when you have road rage and there's no one to direct it at. you're driving in your car, "you cut me off you invisible-- you (bleep). you piece of shit. i'll just throw a rock at you." and finally, in headlines, the world's worst charity has closed its doors. ( applause ) >> president trump will be closing down his charity. the donald j. trump foundation was sued by new york's attorney general over claims the trump children abused its tax-exempt status and violated campaign finance laws. >> we have a tweet from the new york a.g., the attorney general's office.

the foundation functioned as little more than a checkbook to serve mr. trump's interests. our lawsuit remains ongoing. >> trevor: that's right, donald trump's charity, which frequently spent money on donald trump, has been forced to shut down. which makes sense. i mean, if the beneficiary of the charity has become president, i think the charity has done its job. it's time to shut it down. yeah. it's the same way all the people who used to send me $1 when i was back in africa stopped paying me when i became host of "the daily show." it's done. yeah. it worked out. and if you're saying, "hey, trevor, weren't you already successful before you got this job?" what the (bleep) are you, robert mueller? shut up. ( laughter ) now, i'm going to be honest with you guys, i'm even shocked that trump had a charity. i always thought the only trump charity was the women who agreed to have sex with him. but-- ( cheers and applause ) but... but this is real. this is real. and it turns out the trump foundation did a lot of shady shit that caught the eye of investigators, like when trump

used $12,000 from his charity to buy himself a helmet signed by tim tebow. ( laughter ) which is something even tim tebow wouldn't want. and he even spent 10,000 charity dollars to buy a portrait of himself to hang up in his own golf club. yeah. i mean, at this point, the least the man can do is donate that painting to a child. yeah. free nightmares for the rest of your life. ( laughter ) all right, let's move on to our main story. 2018 is almost over. but it feels like the whole country is still nursing a hangover from the 2016 presidential election. trump is still obsessed with hillary. mueller is still investigating trump, and democrats are about to launch a slew of new investigations into his campaign. it feels like a billion years from now, just before the sun dies, out the last thing you'll hear before the universe goes silent is, "no collusion!" and then there will be one more "avengers" movie and then it's over.

( laughter ) but now, over two years later, we're still learning about how deep the russian rabbit hole goes. russia's interference in the election is a serious thing, especially because they targeted one group in particular. >> this is really important what i'm about to tell you right now. because there's new information-- two new reports commissioned by the senate intelligence committee looked at data provided by facebook, by twitter, and google, and they found that they were trying to suppress african american votes. >> the russians set up 30 facebook pages targeting african americans, specifically. 10 youtube channels, 571 videos related to police violence against african americans. some of these posts distorted the record of hillary clinton and former president barack obama. >> facebook ads were targeted at users who had shown interest in particular topics, including black history, the black panther party, and malcolm x. the russian accounts used voter

suppression tactics, encouraging black voters to stay home or vote for jill stein. >> trevor: oh, man. that is so insulting for jill stein. ( laughter ) even in russia, they're like, "stay home or vote for jill stein. is same. same thing. same thing." ( laughter ) it's almost like the phrase, "vote for jill stein," is just a new way of saying, "waste of time." you know, like, one kid is going to be like, "dad, i want to be a d.j." "no son of mine is going to vote for jill stein his life away. it turns out the russians spent a lot of effort specifically trying to convince black americans not to vote. like, look at this meme that they put up. this is a real meme they found came from yjr russians. it says, "before you vote, listen to m.j. all i really want to say is that they don't really care about us." and i feel bad for michael. the man died 10 years ago, and now vladimir putin is using him for a propaganda tool.

if you told him russia was using a people of him, you know what he would say. "what's a meme? oh, kids like them? show me how to make one." ( laughter ) too soon? ( laughter ) and what's crazy is that sometimes the russians went way beyond just putting out memes. they actually convinced people to do stuff in the real world. >> one such operation convinced and paid martial arts instructor omowale adewale to run self-defense classes for african americans to "protect your rights. let them know black power matters." they convinced you. >> very easily. very easily. some of the things were sketchy, but at the end of the day, it is still fitness. >> trevor:'re. >> trevor: what i love about this guy "at the end of the day

it's still fitness." i mean, he's right, though. if russia is going to manipulate you into exercising, how pad can it really be? i wish russia would go further and do all sorts of things to improve their lives. "i can't believe russia tricked me into calling my mom more, guys. >>ed is slow, everybody. dulce, i have to ask you, what do you make of this news? >> trevor, i feel disgusted. i feel manipulated. and i feel special. ( laughter ) russia could have gone after anyone-- latinos, asians, millennials. but they said we're going after the ones who count, black people! you can believe that? i mean, some white people actually do think black lives matter. >> trevor: i hear what you're saying, but they were only paying attention so that they could manipulate the black vote. >> yeah, but at least they're paying attention to us. the only time our president

notices us is when he's fighting with lebron james on twitter. i mean, trump probably thinks martin luther king's last name is boulevard. ( laughter ) ( applause ) but while trump's ignoring black people, putin's been looking at us from across the bar this whole time. ( laughter ) "i see you, vlad." ( laughter ) ( applause ) "on horse back with them tiny nipples." ( laughter ) "how did you get that horse in the club?" >> trevor: okay, okay, i get it, but doesn't it bother you that russia only did this to suppress the black vote? >> trevor, you know who else suppresses america's black vote? america. have you been to georgia? they made it impossible for black people to vote. at least putin gave us a choice. plus he has that black accent. he'll be like, "beautiful brown woman. i promise not to kill you. maybe." ( laughter ) i like danger. >> trevor: what you're saying

is even though russia interfered in the election and maybe helped trump get elected, you're find with it? >> oh, notice, i'm not saying i'm fine with it. i'm just saying i appreciate the effort. they got to know black americans, our likes, our dislikes, our culture. do you know how hard it must be for russian russians to understd amigos? you have to learn english and then forget it? i mean, that's the kind of work i want my government to put in. >> trevor: dulce sloan, everybody. we'll be right back! we'll be right back! ( cheers and applause ) opportunity is everywhere. like here. where you can explore the world knowing you can always find your way home. ♪

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( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome back to "the daily show." you know, going home for the holidays is often a recipe for disaster. but what if i told you your next awkward family gathering could actually make the world a better place. well, desi lydic has more. >> our country is experiening the most divisive time in recent history, but the holidays are upon us. i want to find out what families are doing to stay connected this season. >> we just ignore family around the holidays. we stay away from relatives that are racist. >> take antidepressants. >> get medicated. >> get medicated. >> what do you do when your racist cousin says something racist? >> not allowed in my house. not allowed in my house. >> not allowed in my house. >> no way. my house, my rules. >> my grandfather was racist and watching football people a particular color running down the field he would cheer for them, using a not-nice word. >> he's dead now? >> yes. >> that's good.

that's good. that's probably for the best. >> it happens. >> i was starting to see a pattern, particularly among white families. but crazy shit like this doesn't have to be a holiday tradition. luckily, there's a solution, and that's where i come in, by letting this guy come in. meet dr. david campt. as a racial dialogue expert, he travels the country running a. workshop called the white ally rule kit. where woke white liberals learn to communicate with the not so woke. david's basically, the white people whisperer. >> how many of you folks have racist friends, relatives that you think you might see over the holidays? everybody. so the method that you want to think about is race. and race stands for "reflect, ask, connect, expand." let's suppose that person is your cousin biff. >> how does he know my cousin biff. >> and biff wants to talk about how affirmative action is keeping him out of a job and making black information lazy. what do you do? >> not my house!

>> what does that mean? >> it means it's not allowed in your house. my house, my rules. not my house! >> or, you can try to influence people and stay connected to them. >> you ask him what happened in his life that caused him to believe that. is that-- is that-- is that-- >> no! >> actually, that's correct. that's exactly what you should do. all right, let's turn to the next part of the scenario. so what's important to do is to find something you can agree with and what biff said, and connect with him. >> no, i can't connect with biff. i can't. he's racist. >> as an official black person, i'm telling you, you can connect with him. you have-- >> but i have to be real honest with you. i may be white on the outside, but on the inside-- >> no, no, no. >> i did see "black panther" nine times though, and i very much identified with it. >> that's great. but you are a white person. >> uh-huh, yeah, yeah. >> and you have a similarity to biff that i do not.

>> okay, i hear you. i get it now. i get it now. to see if this was effective, i needed to try it out in the real world. i decided to put david's method to the test, and there's no better place to find conflicting family views than new jersey. the cofrancisco family had a history of dinners go bad. they let any random stranger with cameras come into their home if it meant their holidays could be more pleasant. >> would you wear a sweater like desi. >> jesus is white. >> jesus isn't black or white. he's actually-- he's middle eastern. >> jewish is a religion. >> the nationality part was jewish. >> no. >> well, if jesus wasn't going to bring this familyin family tt christmastime, there was only one thing that could. >> so, who likes football.

>> >> he hasn't watched football all year. >> why haven't you watched football all year? >> i don't like what's going on. >> the kneeling. >> with kaepernick. don't like it. >> you don't like it? >> not at all. >> i disagree. >> it was time to work my magic. you say you disagree. >> yes. >> this is the point in the conversation where you need to connect. >> you're really going to let someone being before the football game stop you from watching the entire game? >> yes, i am. >> the entire thing. >> yes. >> that doesn't make sense to watch them kneeling-- >> it doesn't matter. >> it doesn't matter-- ( all shouting ) >> i'm trying teach you (bleep) how to have a civilized conversation! i think it's going great. i really feel this family is responsive to the techniques that i've shown them. i think david would feel very proud of the way that i'm handling this. >> i put the tv on, and i watch this kid kneel down, i shut it off. i don't want to watch him. >> it's like, let them kneel. who cares? they're making a statement. it's a peaceful protest.

>> help me, desi! >> okay, very good, very good, very good. you actually just did all four steps in one statement. you were reflecting on what was happening here. you asked for help. you were connecting with me and you were expanding on an idea. >> what? >> all four. ( applause ) >> yay! >> happy holidays! >> happy holidays! >> what's so happy about them? it's a scary time for men right now. >> men? >> men. >> just men? ♪ ♪ >> well, there's always next year. something tells me i'll be back. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: desi lydic, everyone. we'll be right back. ( cheers and applause )

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( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome back to "the daily show." my guest tonight is a legendary rapper whose latest album "daytona" just received a grammy nomination for best rap album. ♪ pullin' up in that new toy the wrist on that boy rockstar like pink floyd waving at you, boy ♪ ran off on the plug, too, like trugoy ♪ imagine me do, boy you can never do what i do, boy ♪ still duckin' shit that i did, boy. ♪ these ain't the same type of hits, boy. ♪ (bleep) in paris 'fore hit-boy ♪ this ain't the same type of hits, boy ♪ shit can get litter than lit, boy ♪ you don't take these type of risks, boy ♪ 'cause this boy been throwin' that d like rich boy ♪ you missed, boy ya numbers don't add up on the blow that was ten years ago ♪ if you know, you know >> trevor: please welcome pusha t. ( cheers and applause )

>> trevor: welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> trevor: i'm stow glad to finally have you here and most importantly, congratulations on your agreement nomination. >> thank you, thank you. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: that is-- wow. >> feeling really good about that. >> trevor: yeah. >> i feel super good about that. >> trevor: i know people say things but you say about a year ago when the album came out, "yo, i'm getting nominated for the grammy," and now it happened. did you will that into existence? >> i knew it. i honestly knew it. >> trevor: what was it about this album made you feel this was a grammy nod? >> we had the luxury of time. that's why the album is entitled "daytona." that's my favorite watch. the rolex daytona. me and kanye had the luxury of time. we really crafted it. we put our all into it. but we took our time. >> trevor: a lot of people have referred to you as "the favorite rapper's favorite rapper." >> i am. >> trevor: you're a lyricist and

you create in a really organic way, and it feels like hip-hop is meant to feel. you know what i'm saying? >> yes. >> trevor: what's also interesting is you created an album that is shorter than most of the music we're used to. these days people are making albums that are 20 tracks long. and it's an hour and a half and it doesn't end. you came in and said i'm going to make it punchy, i'm going to make it short, and i'm going to make it fire? was that a specific decision you made or to buck the trend? >> definitely to buck the trend. you know, a lot of people make long albums, and, you know, sometimes they have a lot to say so they make long albums. or they make long albums so the streaming numbers, you know, go higher, and it makes the sales bigger. and the music may be a little cheap. so, you know, just so people knew that we weren't playing those type of games, we made a shorter album-- seven songs -- straight to the point of all killer, no filler. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: there's a special connection you have with your fans. do you think you maintain the

sense of beings underground while being commercially successful. >> i go out and perform in front of 2,000 people, right. to and to me, those are, like, the coolest 2,000 people in the world. like, they're like-- they tell me what to wear. they tell me to buy. they tell me what's fresh. i learn everything from those guys. i can go during festival season and we're doing 40,000, 50,000 people. but there's something about those 2,000 that are really honed in-- i don't call them fans. i call them family. >> trevor: that's amazing. it sounds like you're a fan of your fans. >> for sure. they teach me everything. >> trevor: that's a different way to see it. the album was powerful not just because of the lyrics. >> yes. >> trevor: but also because of the music. why do you think people connected with the album? why do you think it's nominated for a grammy? >> because this is the purest rap album that people have had in a long, long time and just to

be honest, this is quintessential samples from kanye west, and lyric-driven hip-hop from pusha t. the best rapper, best producer. that's the album of the year. period. >> trevor: before i let you go, before i let you go, one of the headlines you made this year is you said the "make america great again" hats is this generation's the ku klux klan's hood. but your friend-- as you said, your friend and collaborator, kanye west, your business partner, he wears that hat with pride >> he doesn't anymore. >> trevor: he doesn't anymore? >> he stopped. he stopped. >> trevor: let me ask you as a friend-- >> he stopped. >> trevor: i want to talk to you about this as a person. >> okay. >> trevor: you see family where's people argue about this. we see friends. we don't live in a world where everyone agrees on the same things. and i don't think you can cut off flendz for not agreeing with

you. as somebody who has your beliefs, how do you even begin those conversations with somebody you know connects with you on so many other things. >> can you imagine having those conversations while he's trying to make my album? ( laughter ) like, he basically has my life in his palm and i have to tell him that i hate something. >> trevor: right. >> so it's like-- you know, we always have real conversations. >> trevor: right, right, right. >> always, and i think that's why me and him connect so well. and i think that's why "daytona" came out so well. it's a give and take. if i don't like something i say it and he tries to correct it and so on and so forth. >> trevor: when you look at kanye west now, one of the things we can't escape is he is a genius who is tormented by his mental health issues. and now we've got tone the point where everyone is saying, maybe it's not as a joke as people like it to be. and he's come out and said, "i want to talk about this. i want to get something done about this." the hip-hop community, it see