i can't even feel the cold. what a lovely hotel. - okay. >> trevor: hey, everybody. welcome to another episode of "the daily social distancing" show. i'm trevor noah. and on today's accept soad, superstar. gabrielle union will be joining us, we'll be talking to senator tim scott about leading the republican effort on police reform, and we tell white people how to get involved in racial justice. turns out, following oprah on instagram isn't enough. but before all that, let's catch >> announcer: from trevor's couch in new york city to your couch somewhere in the world, this is "the daily social distancing show," with trevor noah." >> trevor: let's begin with the police. if you're black, you know them as the guys pulling you over. if you're white, you know them as the guys that give lap dances at bachelorette parties.

for three weeks since the killing of george floyd, millions of people around the country have been calling for police to be reined in. and after weeks of local leaders responding to the protests, today, the president carefull carefully shuffled down the ramp into the fray. called for some modest changes, like a database to track police misconduct. there was a new thing that would challenger police departments not to use choke holds, saying the choke holds should not be used unless an officer felt like his life was in danger, which means the thing can be used, but it can't be used. but it can be used. when trump came out to make these remarks, it just felt like his heart wasn't in it. >> americans believe we must summit the brave men and women in blue who police our streets and keep them safe. americans know the truth. without police there is chaos.

without law there is anarchy, and without safety there is catastrophe. americans want law and order. they demand law and order. they may not say it. they may not be talking about it but that's what they want. some of them may not know that's what they want but that's what they want. we will have law with our extremely talented law enforcement officers. president obama, and vice president biden never even tried to fix this during their eight-year period. >> trevor: donald trump is always constantly downplaying the number of bad cops. if bad cops was a minor problem you wouldn't have huge protests in every city. you would just be able to point to the bad cop and say, "gary, cut that shit out." trumped signed an exclusive order that was supposed to cut down on trump violence but spent the whole time praising the

police. trump's executive order clearly doesn't have much teeth, but some places are taking steps that really could make a difference. new york has just disbanded a 600-member undercover unit for a long history of abuse. and san francisco and albuquerque are now saying soon when some residents call 911, they won't get the police at all. instead, calls for situations involving drug overdose, the homeless and people in mental distress will be answered by an often armed professional who is trained in those fields. and i think i mean we can all agree this is long overdo in america. police in america do too much. so if you can avoid bringing armed police to these situations in the first place, that should be the goal. because wherever a gun is present, it means there's a chance the gun is going to go off. if there's a gun in a club and a fight breaks out, there's a chance a gun will go off in the club. if kids are playing and a gun is around, there's a chance the gun will go off.

if there's a couple fighting and there's a gun around, there's a chance that gun is going to go off. having a gun gives every tense situation the potential to end in death. think of the last time you played monopoly. now imagine having a gun there. it's gonig to end like a tarantino movie. and i know this seems like a radicality idea to some people. some of you are like, what, do you mean you're not going to send the cops. think about it, it's the same thing we did with "ghostbusters." yeah, they used to send cops when ghosts showed up, and then they realized, these are not the right people for this kind of job. so they created the "ghostbusters," and they didn't have guns. they had ghost vacuum cleaners, and it worked way better, and it was also funnier. in fact, maybe more people would get on board if we just made up a cool name for the social workers we send out. "who you gonna call? systemic-societal-issue busters!" as the protests can gone on, the focus has expanded from police abuses to other forms of

systemic racism. a lot of attention has been given to confederate monuments. but in new mexico, the big debate is another statue of a brutal man from history. >> let's get to new mexico, where a man was shot last night over a protest over a statue of a spanish conquistador. demonstrators were trying to tear down the statue, while also clashing with members of a self-appointed armed civilian militia who vowed to protect the statue. the victim is in critical but stable condition right now. several people believed to be militia members involved in the shoot regular now in custody while police investigate. the city says the statue will now be taken down for public safety reasons. >> trevor: first of all, the fact the news can say the phrase, "self-appointed armed civilian militia," like it's normal, tells you that something is very wrong in america. in africa we call them rebel forces. look at those self-appointed militia who have gathered together to overthrow somebodyap ah, yes, yes. much like the debate over

confederate statues, this debate is about why in america anyone would have a statue honoring a 16th century spanish conquistador, who, by the way, enslaved and massacred hundreds of indigenous people. this shows the problem with statues in general. we don't need statues anymore, people. it doesn't matter who they're for. we don't need statues. statues are like tweets. the type you make them they seem cool but if you leave them up for to go at some point they'll become problematic. if you ask me, statutes shouldn't be built to last forever. they should be designed to naturally dissolve after a few years, like a hollywood marriage. and then once it crumbles, you can decide as a society whether it's worth rebuilding, like a hollywood face. now you are changing the whole dynamic of the debate. think about it-- it's a lot easier for people to fight and say, "let's leave up the statue. it's part of our history." it's a lot harder to issue, "okay, guys, we need to raise money for a new bill cosby

standpointue. by the way, why does a 16th century spanish conquistador have such a devoted angry fan club to begin with. who are you people? why is this your hero? why caercht you be obsessed with beyonce like normal people. conquistador, they're not even here. they don't have number one hits. no one is singing conquistador songs. all the conquistadors, all the conquistadors. that wasn't a hit. maybe the biggest sign of the power of the black lives movement right now is it is changing america's cultural institutions. just look at the n.f.l., which is surprising everyone with a high-profile reversal. >> n.f.l. commissioner roger goodell weighing in on quarterback colin kaepernick, who has not played since 2016, when he first started kneeling during the national anthem to protest racial inequality. well, goodell now saying he encourages a team to sign kaepernick. >> i welcome that out a club making that decision and i encourage them to do that. >> goodell again says he and the league were wrong to oppose the

kneeling protests started by kaepernick. >> we should have listened to our players earlier. our players including colin kaepernick. >> trevor: goddamn. all of a sudden, roger goodell wants colin kaepernick back in the league. no one from the n.f.l. has been jerked around this much since robert kraft went to that massage parlor. this move by the n.f.l. is a lot like when your parents finally admit you were right but it's like a decade after they punished you. thank you for giving me my discman back. now i'll go find some cds. and i know some are saying it's just putting a band-aid on the problem, to when band-aid replied, no, this is putting a band-aid on the problem. >> band-aid is looking to be more inclusive. the brand is launching a new line of bandages in different skin tones, from beige to dark brown. the company, which is owned by johnson & johnson, says the move is "meant to embrace the beauty

of diverse skin." no words on when these new bandages will be available in stores. >> trevor: that's right, after 100 years of existence, band-aids are finally discovering that some people are not white. sadly, it's too little too late for nanny. don't get me long. i think it's long overdue for racial minorities to have products that recognize our existence. it's just a little weird that elmo got band-aids before black people. i just hope they stop at a few shades, because if you give people too many options, it's going to become a problem. you'll be bleeding out in the store like, "no, not that one. no, not that one. i spent a bit of time in the sun. that's nice, that's nice." oh, and while you're at the drug store to buy the new black band-aids, you can also pick up some black beauty products with a lot less hassle than before. >> walmart says they will no longer put black hair care products in their locked cases.

walmart told nbc news the company is sensitive to the issues and understand the concerns and the changes will be implemented as soon as as possible. >> trevor: for years, walmart and other drug stores have been locking up black hair and beauty products, and not the white products. even black hair products suffer from mass incarceration. what is this shit, huh? this is great news. what portsmouth of walmart is saying-- >> i hrpd you were talking about walmart! >> trevor: i was dulce, but how did you? >> never mind that. i got some thoughts. >> trevor: i want to know how you hacked into-- anyway, i imagine you're pretty happy that walmart is getting rid of this policy, right? >> yes. free at last, free at last. thank god almighty, the black hair care is free at last!

not only did this racist ass policy treat black people like thieves, but you know what the worst part? it made every trip to walmart ten times longer! >> trevor: why would it be longer? >> because i had to go on a magical quest to find the person with the key who then had to unlock the cage who could finally retrieve my treasure. it's like a black "lord of the rings." >> trevor: it's like an extra 10 minutes. why does it matter? >> do you know how long it takes to style natural hair? do you know how much i have to go through the magical process, the moon, the stars and the products that have to come together for this to grace the plan snet that's time consuming. it's wash day. it's a whole day! it's prepooing, shampooing, deep conditioning, and then i gotta bail my hair care out of jail. no. >> trevor: wait, bail your hair care-- you mean buying the products. >> no, it's bail. i have to sign a piece of paper.

i have to put my house up. it's a whole thing. >> trevor: i don't know where you're buying your hair care products but i understand what you're saying, dulce. i think it's great news the policy is ending. and i bet you will be going to walmart soon. >> i have already been, and just so you knowuc i sent you a little something in the mail, i see you need some help. you have no hair and makeup and you have a quarantine baby 'fro. you're looking kind of dry. >> trevor: wait, wait, what do you mean it's-- i used-- i used-- >> bye! >> trevor: no, dulce, wait. dry? i pre-poo. when we come back, michael kosta, jaboukie young-white are going to be discussing the best ways to fight for equality. so stick around. this is definitely a sea change. we have rolled out teams across our network,

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way more altruistic than i would be if my charity was overrun with donations. i'm not going to lie. i'd be like, "we liberated all the protesters from jail. now let's liberate that maserati from the dealership." so with so many newcomers to the black lives matter movement, a lot of people are having conversations about what they can do to further the cause, and what doesn't help the cause. to move that forward, our very own jaboukie young-white and michael kosta had one of those very needed conversations. >> michael, so many people are joining the black lives matter movement, including white people, which i think is ironic, considering how quickly white people get on to black trends. like, why didn't this happen earlier? >> yeees! go off, jaboukie. what's important, though, is that we're finally all on the same page. we're fighting to end police brutality and end systemic racism. >> yes, yeah, no, yeah, and now that we're all on the same page

we can focus on making sure everybody is taking action, you know, effective action, not just black squares on instagram. >> i could be the agree more, jaboukie. posting a black square on instagram means nothing. that's why i tato do a black square on to my body. that's commitment. >> why does that look like you're covering up a worst tattoo. >> it's actually a third nipple that i'm covering. look, i'll be tattooing a black square on my body until we dismantle racism in this country or i run out of skin. whichever comes first. >> you're probably going to run out of skin first, and then you'll be in permanent black face. >> black face? shit. why does everything i do end up in black face. forget the black square. what's important is to remind people there's still a lot you can do to help. >> right, like protesting, donating, volunteering for campaigns. >> watching "the help" every day, text messaging yu black friend, "we go?"

which, by the way, jaboukie, we good? >> no, no, not if that's all you're doing. >> it's not. i'm doing more. i made a celebrity-style video to showeb how committed i am. take a look at this. ♪ ♪ black lives matter. black lives matter. black lives matter. >> your spirit is in the right place. but you know that there's a difference between symbols and nice gestures and stuff like that, and then actual change and action. you know that that, right? >> i know about change. >> yeah? >> i'm all about change. remember this guy? >> yeah. hey, hey, walter! >> it's not walter. i changed his name. his new name is racism is bad.

isn't that right? i love you so much, racism is bad. >> oh, my god. see, okay, this is exactly what i'm talking about. like what is it going to take for white people to just genuinely want action or change or-- or-- wait. hey! yeah! kosta. did you know that cops kill hundreds of dogs every year? >> what. >> yes. and you know what? most of them unarmed. >> well, we've got to defund the police then. >> all right, yeah. >> that's not even enough. we've get to abolish the police. >> 100%. >> ( bleep ) we have to dismantle the entire military industrial complex. >> okay! >> wait, wait, i just donated all my money to the n.a.a.c.p. why are we still sitting here? >> i don't know. >> we need to get out on the streets. racism is bad. we need to go to washington. let's go, let's go, let's go.

>> all right, okay. i knew it would work. >> trevor: smart thinking, jaboukie. when we come back, we'll be talking with republican senator tim scott. so stick around. ♪

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opinion on police force. some people thought, like, it didn't go too far. for president trump, some people were shocked he even did anything at all. upper in the room. you have been part of those discussions. what did you make of the executive order? >> i thought it was a good day. i thought it was a strong day for the country. i was glad the president took up the issue so many of us have talked about most of the of our lives. if i started this journey five years ago working on the walter scott notification act, and to be here now with the president signing an executive order which disease with some of the more important issues like the choke hold, to the importance of the coresponders, those folks who have mental health issues or addiction issues, this president has done something that almost-- all the folks on the other side said he would never do. and he found the path forward, and i will say thanks to the president for listening on this important issue. >> trevor: what i've been really intrigued by, especially in your journey, is something

you alluded to in your tweets, that there is-- this is an issue that affects all black people. you've shared your personal experiences, being pulled over by the police seven times in one year pup shared how that affects you as a human being and how reforms need to be made. >> yes. >> trevor: what do you think politicians on both sides of the iefg are missing in how they address these issues for black people in america? >> you know, honestly, that's a great question, trevor. from my perspective, we are missing the-- if you're talking about the institutions of authority and the power to kill you, for us to not take this issue seriously, not as politicians, but as americans, there's a reason why the institutions of authority are losing credibility in communities of color, it's because they keep shouting about the same things and nothing changes. that is dehumanizing. it lowers all your expectations from society, and it leads to a level of frustration and irritation that is really hard to handle.

and so when you see these situations unfolding so many times, you finally get to the point what in the heavens will cause a change and, frankly, had it not been for a video camera, i don't think most people would have believed that that officer had his knee on the neck for eight and a half minutes. had it not been for a video camera, they would not have believed walter scott was shot in the back five times without a weapon. had it not been the ability to record these issues, people would not believe us, even to this day. and that's why-- i apologize for getting so excited about this issue-- but this is something we've been working on forever, it feels like. i did a "driving while black" bit when i was on county council 20-plus years ago. >> trevor: wow. >> and to think of the number of people who have had to have their car surrounded because they were simply going to see

their grandparents, likeis. to know there are men and women in this country who feel like they are less than human or that they're less valuable than someone else just because of the considerable of their skin. so whether you love president trump or hate president trump, i don't care. if you love americans, we should be thankful that we're having this conversation and making some progress in the right direction on an issue that has plagued the african american community in the same fashion that the covid-19 is plaguing the world. it's that serious. >> trevor: one thing i didn't appreciate, personally, was how people were tweeting at you. when it was announced that you were going to be leading the republican effort, people said,"of course, the token black guy. the one black guy, the token"-- and it implied in many ways that you were only getting this position because it was saving face, as opposed to the reason you have been pushing the most in the republican party. is there a way you managed to convince some of your colleagues

and said i know you believe you're a law and order person but the people meant to be upholding law and order have no order. how do you convey that message to some of your colleagues? >> i know "law and order" has so many definitions. but if you really believe in the law and order concept, the people who believe in it most is the african american community. frankly, what we want are laws that apply equally in this nation to every single one of us. i want to say to the kids that are coming up now, we see you. you're not invisible. i want them to understand that this country stands for them. and if i have to take the crap from people who want to call me a token because i'm the guy that had the actual experience, i'm the one that went to the leader of the senate and said, "put me in charge because i'm the guy that understands both how to respect the communities of color and how to cooperate and work with the law enforcement community so that there's not a binary choice. this does not work to our advantage if there's a binary choice. we actually don't need a binary

choice. we need one choice, that's it-- lady of justice blindfolded. that's what we need. that's what we want and that's what everyone deserves. >> trevor: let's talk about some of the reforms you're proposing. i read through them. what intrigued me say lot of things you have been pushing for years, a lot of things you have been proposing for years match up with what some people would call defund the police today or abolish. i know it becomes messy. everyone has a different definition of what defund means, abolish. it can be messy. tell me your ideas because i know you have some sweeping reforms that you think need to be introduced into policing in america. >> we need all the information, frankly. the house bill and my bill, we have this in agreement. we want to have all the information sent to the department of justice, perhaps the f.b.i., so that we know what's actually happening in the country. about 40% of departments provide information to what's happening. we want it on serious bodily

injury and on death, because we believe that you look at the walter scott swaid, the george floyd situation, and the breonna taylor situation, all those things that happened, those tragedies, atrocities, there's not any information. you look at the incident report on breonna taylor it's basically blank, and no injuries. so we've actually enhanced the penalties for false police reports in my legislation. we actually say not only do we want the data, that we then want to direct officers in training through our grants so as to get to the choke hold. if you allow choke holds in your department, you become ineligible for those resources. and that's a good thing. from my perspective, if we're going to have substantial, systemic change that moves us in the right direction, the one thing the federal government has is the power of the purse. we don't have the ability to control the local resources. but we can control the federal grants that come into

departments. and in my opinion, i would rather pay for good outcomes, and if i do that, we've done it right, in my opinion. >> trevor: you are in a position that many americans are in where they know somebody or they work with somebody who they're trying to convince to do something about the police, which inherently offends many people. have you made any progress? and if so, how have you managed to make that progress? how do you convince somebody who sees this issue completely differently to you that this needs to be done? >> well, the one thing i start with is a personal story. no one can argue and dispute your personal experience. i think it's powerful, especially as a guy-- everybody says the people that get stopped are involved in something bad. well, i have taken the time, and i have a list of strong, powerful, well-positioned african americans to include the head of police departments who have been stopped by their own departments. so what i try to do is create the narrative that this is not-- has nothing to do with your criminal past. this has nothing to do with a record inspect has to do with

the color of your skin. so having the ability to have credibility on my side of the aisle to have that conversation, actually engages them in a powerful way. on the other side what, i try to say to my friends on the other side splease, do not let the police unions stop you from looking at my bill seriously because talking to my friends, they tell me that they're not allowed to sponsor my legislation because the police unions are afraid of it. i don't get it. and so on my side, i try to use personal stories. on their side, i try to use common sense and the long view. i'm hoping, trevor, that my bill gets a vote, and we get it passed. the house bill is going to get a vote and it's going to pass. wouldn't it be nice for us to find the 85% within the two bills. more resources for the right reasons. let's de-escalate to save lives. let's have a duty to intervene so three guys aren't watching

one guy on someone's neck. let's make sure we're having the right conversations. let's make sure we're dealing with the mental health issues, we're dealing with addiction, we're dealing with homelessness in an ethical manner. let's make sure we provide outcomes. if we can do that and we're 80% in agreement, i'll take 80. i don't need my legislation to become law. i want something that says to my nephew at 29 years old or you at 36 years old, that the next generation of americans, we see you. if i can do that in this job that i have now, all the name calling and all the bickering and all the crap i take will be well worth it, because someone like john lewis made it possible for me to sit in a united states senate building as the senator and not as a staffer. god has been good. we just need to make sure that it's better for people who are coming behind us. >> trevor: senator tim scott. thank you so much for your time. >> yes, sir, have a good day.

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daily social distancing show." earlier today, i spoke with the multi-talented gabrielle union. we talked about the black lives matter movement and the history of racial injustice it is attempting to change. check it out. gabrielle union, welcome to "the daily social distance show." >> thank you for having me. >> trevor: it's quite a time to have you on the show because everyone in america is having conversations now, you know. everyone in america is having conversations that they've either been avoiding, they've either been ignoring, or they just didn't have the time to have. but because of coronavirus, everyone is having these conversations in and around race. >> and feel like you're one of the people who is having some of these conversations before they were-- quote, unquote-- cool. talk me through what you're experiencing right now. >> it's been-- honestly, it's just one big anxiety attack

between the global pandemic, you know, the world is experiencing, and waking up every day to the brutalization, the murder of black bodies. it's-- it's daily. the nonstop onslaught of trauma is-- i don't even know if "anxiety" is a big enough word. i don't know if "depression" is a big enough word to encompass what this all feels like. it just feels like terror in my body. and you try to figure out how best you can hope and then help. >> trevor: conversations are being had that i didn't even think people would be having for maybe, you know, five years or even 10 years. you know, yes, it started with george floyd. that protest sparked everything. and then breonna taylor and all of these bodies, as you talk about. and then it became not just

about the black people who have lost their lives but black people who still are living their lives and evolve from the police to people genuinely having conversations about just the environments that inherently are a by-product of systemic racism. and people struggle to understand. i know a lot of white people who have genuinely said, "i don't understand it." i said because you can't see a thing when the thing is not affecting you. we have seen this in institutions everywhere. we've seen this all over america. and you were one of the faces that people first associated with these stories where they went, "wow, i know that working in a company i might have an issue being black and someone might say that me standing up for myself is me being aggressive or me being hyper this or me being violent when i wasn't." you became one of those faces in the entertainment industry. people were shocked. they said, "gabrielle union, you have it great, don't you?" and yet, very quickly, we realized everyone can experience this in a different way in

varying levels. >> absolutely. and i think-- "the new york times" did an article the other day about when amy cooper and christian cooper's lives converged. and the fact that the amy cooper central park situation happened on the same day as george floyd lost his life, and you realize how far antiblackness and the weaponnization of whiteness, how far it can go. we saw what happened in that park that day. amy cooper did not believe that the rules and laws applied to her. and she believed that in her wrongness, she would be able to weaponize the police against a black man. she just happened to choose the wrong black man. and in that same vene, you see how antiblackness and profiling led to george floyd's death. so along this spectrum, we all live within this spectrum, right? so with a.g.t., trying to work

within a system of "i thought it was the easiest show! how hard is it to watch jugglers? that's what i thought i signed up for" day one, simon cowl is smoking cigarettes inside. i worked a long time. i've worked with all kinds of people. i've never experienced that. so when your boss, the person who has the ability to determine who gets opportunities and who doesn't, doesn't believe that the law applies to him or the rules apply to him, and he does it in full view of nbc, and no one cares about simon cowell, you know, exposing all of these employees to secondhand smoke, that's day within. that's within the first-- what message do you think that sends to anyone that has an issue with the very real racism and the lack of accountability? and it goes on and on and on. they-- you know, during the-- i decided to participate in this investigation, that they were like, "i'm going to-- we're

going to commission this independent investigation." well, silly me, i thought "independent" was independent. but when nbc and freemantel and psycho paid for that investigation, they control it. so throughout that investigation, that i participated in. i talked about, you know, being in there for five and a half hours. i'm about labor, treating employees fairly. nobody's asking for anything special. nobody's asking for somebody to separate their skittles or, you know, their m&ms, whatever, just treat people fairly. have mechanisms in place for when things happen, there are consequences. and i participated in this investigation, and the investigation was ongoing. they turn over what they believe to be inflammatory things or things that are not advan tablous to me over to the head of nbc, who then uses those things that he thinks are

smoking guns to, like, shoot down my claims. he then threatens my agent "gabrielle better watch who she calls a racist," in the middle of an investigation about racism and discrimination? this is what is happening from the top of the company. so as we're all-- as we're all wanting to be part of the solution, as we're all wanting change, we have to hold the people at the very top accountable. >> trevor: let me-- let me ask you this question: what do you think the industry could be doing better to help black people? and i mean, on all levels. everyone from, you know, working in the crew all the way through to what we see on the screen? >> we haveee we have been so committed as an industry-- i mean, and every industry is facing the same thing-- with going along to get along, trying to figure out how you work around the bad apples as opposed to addressing and making those bad apples accountable and their

being real consequences. so in front of and behind the camera, so there has to be an increase in representation across the board, from the top to the bottom. who gets to make the decisions of which projects to green light? who is a part of those development processes? who gets to determine budgets? who gets to determine who gets opportunities and why? how have you actually empowered h.r.? h.r. has become synonymous with how internal affairs is portrayed on police shows. they have to be held accountable. we have to be able to be okay with change that doesn't always benefit us, you know. some people believe that leadership it's only way to leave is to center yourself in every argument. what i'm learning throughout this whole process is sometimes the best way to lead is to get out of the way and make room for someone else. you have to dismantle the whole thing. it's-- it's-- you can't put a

band-aid on a gunshot. we can't. >> trevor: gabrielle union, thank you so much for joining me on the show. hopefully next time, we'll be chatting about how many things moved forward, and we'll get to laugh a lot more. i appreciate you. >> thank you so much, trevor. >> trevor: say hi to the family for me. well, that's our show for tonight. before we go: "the daily show" and comedy central have been donating to three groups fighting against police brutality and systemic racism: the n.a.a.c.p. legal defense fund, the equal justice initiative, and the bail project. now if you want to join in and you have the means, please go to the following link and donate whatever you can. until tomorrow, stay safe out there. and now here it is, your moment of zen. ♪ ♪ reporting the good people of law enforcement is critical. i keep asking a simple question: middle of the night, somebody breaks into your house, who are you going to call after they defund the cops? who do you call when you're in the middle of a summer love

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