welcome to "the daily social distancing show. i'm trevor noah. today is thursday, the 8th of october, and, if you live in new york or oklahoma, friday is your last chance to register to vote in this election. to so go to votevotevote.com and get registered now because, remember, if you don't vote, you can't complain -- and, honestly, complaining is very fun. if i could, i'd spend all day complaining. (whiny) but i can't cuz i have a stupid show to host and there's never any time -- i hate it! anyway, coming up on tonight's show, mike pence is the lord of the flies, donald trump drops out of the next debate, and jordan klepper hears from trump

supporters firsthand about why corona doesn't bother them. so let's do this, people! welcome to "the daily social distancing show." >> from trevor's couch in new york city to your couch somewhere in the world, this is "the daily social distancing show with trevor noah. >> trevor: let's kick things off with last night's vice presidential debate. the first and only debate between the two people who will take over if the president falls in the shower. and it was a weird situation from the start because there is a real chance that pence could have covid 19, even though he's tested negative, and that fear wasn't helped when pence's eye threw a gender reveal party. pink! it's a girl! blood pink! it's a girl! so to keep everyone safe, the debate commission decided to install plexiglass barriers on stage, which sounded good, until we saw the barriers, and they were basically just the snies

guards from sizzlers. who thought of a thin sheet of plexiglass being a good idea? this will stop the coronavirus. viruses don't go up, right? they just go like this? but once you got past the plague thing, the debate was normal. two calm, poised candidates exchanging lines they have been practicing weeks over the course of a largely uneventful 19 minutes. it felt like a throwback to what campaigns used to be like before donald trump arrived on the scene and turned i've write political event into a monster truck rally on cocaine because you remember, in the last debate, trump would not shut up for a second, and pence doesn't have him in it to be that obnoxiously rude, but he did take one important lesson from trump's performance. when the moderate tells you your time is up, that's really more of a suggestion than a rule. >> there are no more hurricanes today -- >> thank you >> -- than there were 100 years

ago >> thank you >> but many to have the climate alarmists -- >> your time is up, mr. vice president >> -- of a green new deal. he said it was hysterical >> thank you, vice president pence >> o -- of china, we're going to continue to stand strong. >> thank you, mr. vice president >> under trump's leadership, we will do what we're going to do to improve -- >> thank you, mr. vice president. >> president trump not only respects but reveers all those who serve in our armed forms and any suggestion otherwise is ridiculous >> thank you, vice president pence >> trevor: i would think after trying thank you, vice president, thank you, thank you vice president 30 times, you might try a different time -- yo, stop it, vice president pence, shut the (~bleep ) up! the problem with saying thank you, vice president pence, it's too gentle. you tell them, vice president

pence, that's my boy! thank you! honestly, this shows you that trump is a bad influence on innocent little mike pence. four years ago, pence would never have dreamed of being a rule breaker but look at him now! pence spends four more years with trump, by the next term he will be polyamorous with mother and some dude he met in a biker gang. at some points i'm not sure why debates have moderators. what is their job? it's not cutting off the candidates or holding them accountable fort what they say. anybody can say anything they want in these debates and nobody is calling them out for it. i really don't get why you can't fact check the candidates when they lie. in fact, most of the lies you can pre-fact check because these people use the same lies over and over again. you don't even have to wait for them to say it. the moderator could be, like, this next question is about healthcare and mike pence please don't say you and trump have a plan to protect pre-existing

conditions because we all know that's best >> trump and i have a plan to improve healthcare and to protect pre-existing conditions for every american. >> trevor: bitch, the what did i just say? but, look, not everything is the moderator's problem. ultimately, it's up to the candidates to decide what kind of debate they're going to have and, last night, it seemed both candidates made the choice to dodge any questions that they didn't feel like answering >> vice president mike pence and senator kamala harris tackled the issues and exchanged attacks but they spent much of the night dodging critical questions off >> harris wouldn't answer question about court packing. pence wouldn't answer the question about why the u.s. death rate from covid is so much more than any other wealthy country and wouldn't commit to a peaceful transfer of power >> both candidates did a great job of not answering questions they didn't want to answer from climate change to china. they did a good job of ducking and dodging >> trevor: it's wild you can just refuse to answer a question

while you're applying for the second most important job in the country. there's not a single other job that would let you do that, even if you were applying to be a grocery store clerk and they asked you do you have a criminal record, you could never say, man, i'll tell you what a crime was, what happened to's isla and miley's relationship. that's what a crime is, i think. while kamala harris definitely dodged the hell out of that court packing question, pence was dodging topics all night like a pg-13 movie. and look, i get it, defending trump is like trying to sell a house that is currently on fire. it is not an easy job. ( fire sounds ) >> i know, but think how much you will save on the heating bill. but pence was answering a completely different question from the one asked. it was extremely irritating for me or at least it was until we made a game show out of it.

>> joe biden said twice in the debate last week that, on day one, he was going to repeal the trump tax cuts. >> vice president pence, do you believe climate change poses an existential threat. >> i couldn't be more proud to serve as vice president to a president who stands out apology for the sanctity of human life. i'm pro-life, i don't apologize for it. >> how would your administration protect americans with pre-existing conditions who have access to affordable insurance? >> ceutical mani, the iranian general was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of american service members. when the opportunity came we saw him headed to baghdad to kill more americans. president trump didn't hesitate and qasem soleimani is gone.

>> trevor: i can't believe i lost $40,000 on that game. now, it could be unfair to say that no part of last night was worth watching because for a couple of minutes, specifically two minutes and nine seconds, the debate got amazing. >> a fly stole the spotlight and landed on vice president mike pence's head and stayed there for about two minutes. everyone but pence seemed to notice. >> the fly that landed on mr. pence's head and sat there for two minutes and nine second- >> and i thought that the most effective being on that stage to go after vice president pence was that fly that landed on his head. >> who would have predicted a fly could would steal the show? >> trevor: i was not surprised

to see a fly on mike pence's hair. the fly probably thought he was a dead body. whoa, this shit moved! and look, flies land on people all the time, nothing crazy about that. what was crazy is how long it sat there for, even trump was watching at home like, wow, two minutes with mike pence, i could never do that. we gotta get that fly into the white house. such a powerful, strong fly. so that was the vice presidential debate. but if you think you found it frustrating as a viewer, that's nothing compared to how frustrated kamala harris was, and you could tell because, from the minute the evening started, kamala was throwing out "are you kidding me" facial expressions faster than the internet could meme them. while a lot of people felt her pain, others did not. >> not even the plexiglass could

contain the strong side eye kamala harris was giving the vice president. people took away from it it was abrasive and condescending. >> i don't think she did a good job of making herself likable and the scowls and the faces were not helpful. >> they were offputting. >> she could do more than the awkward smiles and shaking her head. >> the only thing kamala harris made tonight was oversouth americaing and oversmiling. >> the same haughty smug, smirking framework that is not a good look on men or women. >> trevor: you know what guys? i hate to admit it but these guys on fox news are right. kamala harris shouldn't be making expressions with her face during a debate. she should be more like mike pence, keep a stone-cold serial killer stare and express all your emotion through your one bloody eye. because, to me, these criticisms always reveal so much about men who are uncomfortable with a

woman in power, you know. they're like, her demeanor was so unlikable, what is she going to do next, tell me i'm a disappointment to her and my stepfather for coming home from the sleepover early because i wet the bed is this because i don't do that anymore. kamala's facial expressions were a big topic of conversation after the debate and dulls dues had her own thoughts about it. >> last night people on tv had thoughts about kamala harris' facial expressions during the debate. they said she looked condescending angry and annoyed. when i heard that, i thought, well, yeah, she's in a room with mike pence. his own wife looks like that when she's near him. but you know what? the people calling out kamala have a point. if you're leading america, you can't make weird faces during a debate, you have to make dignified faces like this one. that's the expression of a dude who just swallowed a turd and

realized he likes how it tastes. that last four seconds had every single emoji. i've never seen anybody's eyebrows try to escape their face. kamala, if you're hearing something you don't like, don't get mad, react with class, like president trump does here. that's my president. a man with restless bitch face. look at that. he looks like they told him he's ten minutes too late for the breakfast member you. that's the face you make when your daughter tells you she just wants to be friends. but my favorite presidential debate face is this one. i've seen this face many times before. it's under my cat's tail when she's walking away from me. i mean, damnics look at that thing! if you're not going to blur it out, at least give us time to get the kids out of the room. so to kamala, i say learn from the president because if you're using the same expressions he's using, they won't be saying she's angry or she's patronizing, they will be saying, damn!

i think she's having a stroke! and to all of you out there giving your opinions on kamala's facial expressions, shut the (~bleep ) up. >> trevor: thanks for that, dulce. when we come back, we'll talk about why the next debate is in danger of being canceled. don't go away. ♪ i love this view. i love that every time this commercial airs, i get to drink another mountain dew. ♪

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show. we have been talking about last night's vice presidential debate. but let's face it, the real action is at the top of the ticket. you know, it's the same way no one ever goes to a concert for the opening act. i mean, the only reason they're even playing is just to give you some time to smoke weed in the restroom and get really high because you don't want to get high while the main thing is happening. you want to get high before. this is amazing! who was here before? i don't care. now the next debate between donald trump and joe biden was supposed to take place next thursday. but then, one of the candidates let himself get infected with a

deadly virus. we don't need to get into who, but either way, that changed everything. >> commissioner on presidential debates just announced that the second scheduled debate between president trump and joe biden will be virtual. it will be a virtual debate in the form of a town meeting. the biden campaign says the former vice president will participate in a virtual debate. but president trump just moments ago said no. >> i'm not going to waste my time on a virtual debate. that's not what debating is about. it's ridiculous. then they cut you off whenever they want. >> trevor: oh, man, you've got to love trump sometimes. he's openly admitting he won't do a virtue del bait because they'd make him foul-the rules? can you imagine a debate when you stop talking when your time is up? that's not a world i want to live in. to be honest, trump hating zoom is the most relatable thing he's

done since he became president. but if trump didn't want to do a virtual debate, do you know what he could have done? not gotten coronavirus, (~bleep )! that's an option. you can't get coronavirus and get mad when they switch things up so your ass doesn't give everybody coronavirus from you. biden says he'll hold a town hall on his ownt that night and the trump campaign is pusherring to move the debate back a week so they can be in person again. in a way, i'm not surprised by trump's reaction. if he understood how the coronavirus works and if he cared about not spreading it, he would want to do a virtue del bait. unfortunately, neither of those things seem to be true, which trump made abundantly clear once again in an interview today. >> look, i want to go back to the coronavirus for a moment now. you say you feel great, but the media is out there saying, well, you're contagious. do you feel that you are?

>> no, i don't think i'm contagious at all. first of all, if i'm at a rally, i stand by myself very far away from everybody. remember, when you catch it, you get better, and then you're immune. as soon as everything goes away for me, you're immune. >> trevor: first of all, problems to maria for the hard-hitting questions, do you feel that you are contagious? whoo! that was journalism! but what in god's good name is trump talking about? when you catch it, you get better and then you are immune? there are 200,000 people in this country that will definitely disagree with that statement. sometimes i wonder if this is the president talking or if the coronavirus has just taken control of his brain. it's actually found get infected with me. i mean with coronavirus. trust me, guys, getting infected with me -- i mean with

coronavirus is a great thing. and, look, i'm glad trump seems to be recovering from his illness mostly because if covid beat him, then it would become president. you know, wakanda style. i wish there was a symptommum of covid that left people unable to open their mouths because ever since trump came out of the hospital he's been talking like he's some kind of medical expert which he most definitely are not. >> hi, perhaps you recognize me, it's your favorite president, and i'm standing in front to have the oval office at the white house. i wasn't feeling so hot, and within a very short period of time they gave me regeneron and other things, too, but i think this was the key, they gave me regeneron, and it was unbelievable. i felt good immediately. we have medicines right now, and i call them a cure. i went into the hospital a week ago, i was very sick, and i took this medicine and it was incredible. it was incredible.

i could have walked out the following day. we're going to make them available immediately. we're taking care of our seniors. you're not vulnerable, but they like to say the vulnerable, but you're the least vulnerable. but for this one thing, you are vulnerable. >> trevor: ah, it's always nice to get a clear public health message from the president. seniors are not vulnerable, but vulnerable, but they're totally invulnerable. i think i nailed it, guys, in the second take. one take, that's what i do. i beat it, i kill it just like i do with corona, baby -- ( coughing ) by the way, how messed up is it that trump spent months telling everyone to take hydroxychloroquine but then, when he actually had the chance to take it, he dumped it for a younger, hotter drug? hydroxychloroquine is probably scrolling through instagram right now going, oh, i get it, you're with regeneron now?

oh, i get it, i'm happy for you, trump. this is crazy, trump thinks because he got better he found a miracle cure app and coronavirus isn't a problem anymore? that's a dangerous thing to tell people. the only medically appropriate thing about these videos is clearly trump's staff locked him out of the white house for two weeks. there's nothing responsible for presidential about what trump is doing now, but the good news, is if he loses in november, this man has definitely got a backup career hosting info mecialsz. >> hi, perhaps if you recognize me, it's your favorite president. i got back a day ago from walter reed medical center. i went in, i wasn't feeling so hot, and within a very short period of time they gave me regeneron, and it was, like, unbelievable. it just made me better, okay? i call that a cure. i want to get to you what i got, and i'm going to make it free. i think this was a blessing from god that i caught it because i feel great.

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likely contracted covid at an event in the rose garden, he hosted another slightly different kind of superspreader event, a campaign rally, a known verdict for spreading many of trump's favorite lies. i traveled to the battle background state of pennsylvania to see how many people hat caught trump's version of reality. i'm at a trump rally in harrisburg, pennsylvania. we are weeks away from the presidential election, months away from finding out who wins and probably a year away from losing a loved one to the inevitable silver war. let's do this. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> yeah, make america great again! >> whoo! >> whoo whoo! >> rambo flag. classic. how's it going? mind if i check out some of your stuff? >> yesterday we did $5,400 in sales. >> is there anything 200,000 deaths later that doesn't quite

work as well? >> not with the trump stuff. >> it's almost as if the trump stuff isn't affected by that at all. >> exactly. >> tell me about the shorts. >> well, we've got the donald trump shorts. >> you have to be careful, donald trump that close to your genitals, in a decade he's going to deny he was there and counter sue. >> ha ha, funny. >> when did you get out to see donald trump. >> about 26 hours ago, 10:00 yesterday morning. >> you're going to wait two days to see the president. >> first of all, come on, donald trump is our first rock star superhero president. he's the real life tony stark. they could call him president iron man. >> well tony stark gave a shit about science. ( laughter ) so much excitement in the air. some droplets. you feel like people are going to feel this effect for weeks to come. why no mask? >> frankly, i forgot it in my car. i forgot to grab it on the way out. >> i just think all the sharpie fumes are not sure healthy for you. >> probably not.

when it was still wet, you know. >> what do you think about the the whole mask situation now? are you worried about covid? >> for me personally, i'm not worried, but my dad has underlying health conditions, so if he gets it, he's going to be in trouble. >> why take the risk if your dad has health issues. >> just to see trump. >> it's worth a little bit of risk? >> yeah. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> yee-haw! >> nice flags, man. >> i love 'em. >> wear a mask! back at it. the efficacy of trump's herd mentality theory was on full display. >> that's america right there. that's freedom. >> that's freedom. >> that's freedom. >> are you excited? >> yes i am. >> what are where r you excited about. >> the court is filled with constitutional loving americans. it has been too liberal too long. >> you're pro-life. >> of course.

>> it's important for americans to do whatever they can to protect a human life. >> yes. >> why aren't you wearing a mask? >> i mean, again, it's a personal choice, i think. if everybody was wearing them and everybody said put a mask on, i would respect everybody's wishes. we're not cheap. >> you're not sheep. >> we're not. >> you're going to look at what everybody is doing and follow. >> yes. >> but not sheep. >> not sheep. >> as the not sheep we're bravely running into a tightly packed airplane hangar. i couldn't help to think of d day. as i traced the spread of bullshit i was feared for those most vulnerable whose defenses were already compromised. >> about two months before covid started, somebody put me on a drug. q anon.

>> is there anything you can tell us? >> j.f.k. is still alive. >> you're saying j.f.k. is alive and spending his time in the background at trump rallies. >> from q anon, yes. >> do you believe racism exists. >> i don't think people hate each other. >> you don't think it's a problem in america. >> no. >> put you think j.f.k. is alive and at a trump rally? >> maybe. ( laughter ) >> hilarious. but with just over a month before the voters go to the poll has the president contaminated election day. if biden is elected, do you trust the results? >> no, they're cheaters. >> if trump wins, do you trust the results? >> absolutely. >> i think mail-in ballots won't be fair because it leads to fraud. >> you don't trust mail-in ballots. >> not at all. >> the president uses mail-in ballots. >> for this upcoming election. >> but the president himself

uses mail-in ballots. >> where. >> that's how he votes, he mails it in. >> yeah, that's different. >> how's it different? >> i honestly don't know that. i don't know what you're talking about. >> but you do know it's different. >> after hours in the heavily contaminated parking lot, i wanted to self-quarantine and chill. but i had one burning question. are you in a better place than four years ago. >> absolutely. >> is america in a better place than four years ago. >> i believe. >> we have higher unemployment, 200,000 dead due to covid and riots in the street. >> let me tell you this much. i'm make four times as much as i was making when obama was president. >> what do you do? >> i work for a debt relief company. >> as a debt relief employee you make more money under donald trump. >> yeah, i do, yeah. >> it's good to be a white debt relief collector. >> trevor: thank you so much for that, jordan. all right, when we come back, i'll be talking politics with the one and only alex wagner. don't go away.

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welcome back to the shoovment earlier today i spoke with alex wagner, co-host and executive producer of "the circus." we talked about this crazy election cycle and what it's actually like on the ground in america. alex wagner, welcome to "the daily social distancing show. >> trevor, it's nice to see you from several miles apart. >> your show, "the circus," has, in many ways, captured what america is dealing with, but i feel like more than ever "the circus" is on fire right now, like there's an elephant that's on the loose and the tent poles are falling and there's chaos. do you think syracuse even captures what you're seeing in politics today? >> it's sort of like the apocalypse. when people refer to "the circus," i'm not sure if they're talking about the show or american politics. this is not something that's ever happened before. at stake is liberal democracy.

this is really, truly a test in self-governance, does the model work. i think we can lose sight of the enormity of the questions at hand when we're caught up in the minute by minute news cycle chaos pandemonium. >> trevor: right. >> we are living through an historical experiment right now. >> trevor: it really feels like that and it feels like there are so many parts of the system that are designed to make it more chaotic. like when you're watching a debate like last night between mike pence and kamala harris, do you see anybody as winning or does it feel like the people go up and talk and everybody goes back to their corners? >> trevor: the person who wins is the person who the fly doesn't land on, that's generally the rule of thumb. but to be real about it, i think 2016 taught us that it doesn't really matter who the collective media elite think wins or won. i mean, hillary clinton won

those debates, and yet trump is president. donald trump has proven that he has the ability to say i won no mary what, and 33% of the country is going to believe him. so, you know, i watched the debate last night, and i thought these people are each doing a good job of talking to their tribes. there is no -- there is going to be no general consensus about who did well and who did not because we have reached the point in american politics where the partisan divide is so steep that, you know, a basic performance can no longer be graded on the merits of what is said and done, it is always going to fall into a tribal divide. >> trevor: one of the more eye opening interviews you did or your show did was with steve bannon. >> yeah. >> trevor: former advisor/bff to the president. i don't know what their relationship, is he said trump is going to contest this election at all costs and make ate fight regardless whooft happens to make sure the election is his. how do you process that

information? do you think it's bluster or do you think it's real? >> i think steve beenen has a window into trump's soul that very few do which is why he's a very universals narrator in this moment. but i think he's right, i think there's zero chance trump will concede, even if he does not create complete chaos in the aftermath, there's no way trump will come out saying i lost. as someone who is perhaps a clinical narcissist, i'm not sure, but it is a violation of his sort of core ethic to admit a loss and that is not going to happen. the ultimate question lies with republican governors and republicans in legislatures and in congress, are you going to be foot soldiers for chaos? are you going to -- >> trevor: you speak to them. what if they said? do they seem they're going to go with trump if he refuses to concede or will they pull a flip-flop and say, no, we'll never do this, and march down

the streets after the election with him? >> i think it's the twin polls of republicanism. there's one faction of republicans that realize that donald trump is the party and if they are to survive they have to keep the base with them, if they're going to stay in office. they may be reluctant to say we are going to follow him no matter what he says after november 3rd, but they will. and another faction of republicans understand how poisonous trump has been for the g.o.p. on the whole and they may be thinking, look, if he's lost, this may be our chance to get rid of him and refashion the party into something that resembles what it used to be. it will largely rest on how close the election is. if you have tight races in florida and pennsylvania, there's a case to be made for a series of lawsuits, endless litigation, recounts that rival what happened in florida in 2000. if it's a much bigger margin, trump's still not going to concede but i think the opportunities for trickery

lessen greatly. >> trevor: this has been a great season for you because you have been out there in a pandemic and you've found ways to make the show and be safe. what are some things you felt about america on the ground as you navigate throughout the country? >> there is a deep and profound sense of heart break. i will never forget going to kenosha, and it was milwaukee and madison. you think, everything is shuttered here, but those businesses are still open. it told you yule feed to know about how closed off we've become from one another, about how sort of dark the future looks for everybody. and then the sense of palpable anxiety and fury. i don't want to say it's completely hopeless, but i have never sensed the sadness that i do and the true anxiety, you know, and i think some of the times that anxiety and sadness

takes a form of vitriol and you see that on display especially at some of the trump rallies happening. on the biden side, i was in a drive-in rally in johnstown, pennsylvania, and there's a sense of brokenness and desire to be made whole that's unlike any other period in american politics. >> wow. >> but i also think you're witnessing something in american politics and it is asymmetrical. one party is no longer saying the other side is wrong, they're saying they're evil. that's a discob certing development. when someone tried to kill ronald reagan in 181, reagan is ailing in his hospital bed and a speaker of the house, democrat, tip o'neil, was one of very few people admitted to the hospital and gets down on his knees and prays with reagan. it is impossible to imagine donald trump and nancy pelosi doing the same. by the way, it is not because nancy pelosi doesn't say regularly i pray for donald trump, but i think that there

was a decision, and i would really put this more on the right than the left, that -- to poison the groundwater and to say that isn't just about a policy difference, this is about a way of life and this is about a kind of people that are not american, and they don't belong here and they are not part of our vision for the country, and once you make it deeply personal and take it into the realm of the emotional, it makes it really hard to build a bridge back. unfortunately, building the bridge back is the task of the next decade. trumpism -- trump may not be in office, but trump is the republican party. it is republicanism at this point, and it will be incumbent, i think, on progressives and democrats, however unfair it may be, to build back that bridge with whoever is left on the other side and wanting to make that happen. >> trevor: there's a lot of work to be done. alex, as always, i appreciate having you on the show. thank you so much for being here. good luck with your travels out there. good luck with the family.

and i'll see you next time, hopefully in person. >> thanks, trevor. always great to see you. >> trevor: thank you so much, alex. we'll take a quick break but we'll be right back after this. . but, before we go, the deadline to register to vote is coming up in many states. if you haven't registered yet or aren't sure if you have, time is running out to make sure you can vote in november. go to "votevotevote.com" to check your registration status

until next week -- stay safe out there, wear a mask, and remember, if you're ever asked a tough question, just answer a different one. now, here it is -- your moment of zen. >> so did you notice the smile that was on her face all the time. >> yeah. >> and that's hard when you're getting interrupted constantly and then she would say -- and maybe she did create a meme -- mr. vice president, i'm speaking, right? and she kept saying that to him as if to say, i'm not finished, and then he would sort of plow ahead. and i think that women watching that -- i mean, they have a huge gender gap -- but women watching that are going to say wait a minute -- >> wait a minute, don't make the claim he interrupted her repeatedly because he didn't interrupt her repeatedly. ( buzzer )

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