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comedy central >> trevor: valentine's day is coming up, i wish all of you a happy, happy valentine's, may it be blissful, may it be peaceful, and may it be filled with whatever you need. that is what we say back home. valentine's is a very important day in south africa. we celebrate it in church. it has nothing to do with like sex and romancement you go to church and then you pray about sex and romance. you know what's crazy about valentine's day is that it is based on st. valentine. you know what i mean t is the saint of valentine's day. and do you ever think about how shitty it is for certain saints like what they have to look after. you know what i mean, some things are school things st. christopher, the saint of travel. saint, look after me as i take on this trecher oust journey, please look after me. st. sebastian, the saint of martyrdom, are you going to die, give up your life, st. sebastian. look after my soul as i give my

life up for a great cause. st. valentine's, st. valentine, yo man, can you help me find chocolate at cvs, please, man, let me figure out the aisle because i'm trying to smash tonight, and the cheap chocolate not those super expensive belgium ones just good enough that she thinks i thought about her ahead of time, all right st. slal valentine's, thanks my dude. >> coming to you in the heart of time square from new york city, the only city in america, it's the daily show. tonight roads are racialist,-- racist, reading up for valentine's day, and frances haugen, this is "the daily show" with trevor noah. >> trevor: hey, what's going on, everybody. welcome to the daily show, i'm trevor noah. let's just straight into today's headlines. we kick things off with bit coyne, the only-- bitcoin the only money that doesn't have slave holders on it, one of the advantages of crypto currency was supposed to be how it was

secure from left. and i would explain why but instead just ask that one dude at the next party you go to. he will be very happy to go into great detail. >> but despite the supersecurity of crypto they have unfortunately been some major crypto heists over the years. and the same technology that makes it hard to steal also makes the perpetrators extremely hard to catch. hard but not impossible. >> this morning the justice department announcing the largest single seizure of funds in the department's history. investigators say hackers broke approximate into an online currency exchange back in 2016, stealing 120,000 bitcoin which at the time was worth 71 million dollars. but today it is worth a staggering 4.5 billion. ilya lichtenstein and his wife heather morgan were charged with laundering bit con using thousands of small transitions and accounts with fake i.d. >> trevor: holy shit, four and a half billion dollars in stolen

bitcoin. this is huge. you realize, you realize that 330 million people in the united states. and that is 4.5 billion dollars. so that means you could give each person in the u.s.-- u.s.-- $10-- if you-- you could give everyone some money. and by the way, you might think that everyone who uses bitcoin would be happy that the police were able to track down the stolen crypto but it uns it out no, it turns out a lot of the crypto community took this as bad news because crypto currency is supposed to be anonymous. and if the fbi can trace bitcoin to someone who might have stolen it t what is to stop them from tracking innocent people who are just using bitcoin to buy heroin and automatic weapons, this scary stuff. but where some people see a problem, i like it to see opportunity. which is why, my friends, i have created a new form of currency

that is totally anonymous and completely untraceable. and it comes with just a little bit of cocaine on it. so if you are interested, i'm going it to be selling these on my website for $50 each. it is a steal. now you probably are wondering who are the criminal geniuses who are part of one of the biggest financial crimes in history. you know when they say you should never meet your heroes? yeah, this is why. >> lichtenstein a u.s. and russian citizen is described in a profile online as a tech entrepreneur, and according to morgan's social media profile she is a serial entrepreneur and a part time rapper. in one of her songs morgan calls herself the infamous crocodile of wall street. >> i'm many things. ♪ a rapper. ♪ and economy is, a journali. ♪ a writer, a c.e.o. >> trevor: i know what you are thinking. the bitcoin crimes are nothing compared to calling this srk hit

rap. what was that, a rapper, an economist, a journal-- yo, rap is not just like saying words, what is that? and also, even if you are a rapper, you know it is never a good sign for your rap career when you are listing all your other jobs in a song. you are just a rapper, yo, yo, yo, this definitely doesn't pay the bills, have i to do a bunch of other things. cuz as you can tell no one would pay for this. and this woman was a crime, by the way, rap video, this woman has been spilling wet fire everywhere she has been given a chance. >> moth moth, what i got to do, yodo. >> our mission is noble. want to be a mogul. my twinnedder has gone global. -- you mean istanbul. >> i see my foyo, got it to stay vocal, bitcoin etherium, hodo. a m.c. game stop,iolo. >> i beg you, no mo.

like what is she shall-- which rap is she listening to that she felt that was a reference for rap, that is what i want it to know. what was she listening to rap to be like i could do that, i will do it the exact same thing. no, no. yo-yo. you are sitting next in a room what are you thinking, are you okay in there. here's a tip, kids, if you want to look cool while doing your rap, don't read your lyrics off to the side. practice and learn the thing because it sort of eliminates the swag. the whole time she is doing this to catch the next reim, that is ditto. you can't do that, no rapper would-- you can imagine if tupac was reading his raps. >> you claim to be a player but a-- sorry guys, screwed your wife, we bust on the-- can we get-- can we get a different font. >> if you have 4.5 billion dollars, why are you on tiktok, what are you doing on tiktok, huh? the whole point on being on tiktok is to get foarls to get paid so you can be rich enough so you don't have to be on tiktok any more.

no one wants to be on tiktok, dancing for fun, and look at the pain in his eyes. they're coming for his family. i never understand how people are smart enough to commit the biggest crimes but dumb enough to never get away with it. i mean like there is a better way to do this crime. i'm not trying to give anyone advice on how to do crime, please, i'm not giving advice but here's the thing. if you steal crypto don't just keep it all in one place, yo. what you have to do is break it up into multiple wallets app keep them offline in separate drives and make sure your keys are not in the cloud or written down anywhere, then move to a country that doesn't have extradition laws to the u.s. then you launder the money slowly using other crypto or nft's, and again i'm not giving advice on doing crime. >> this is trevor's advice on doing crime. >> all right, let's move on it to our top story. what if president biden's biggest accomplishments so far, aside from allowing students to keep their debt, has been the

infrastructure package. it is a 1.2 trillion dollar law that is going to help rebuild roads, expand access to clean drinking water, and finally get around to adding all the other colors to stop lights. >> and we're almost to the infrastructure package, was pretty untroarvetion. there was one thing that was very deep in the package that has got a lot of people riled up. >> democrats lead by president biden say now is the time to build back better. but leaders don't just want to build and update roads. in some cases, they want highways torn downment democrats would like to provide funding to tear down highways that have a damaging effect on urban minority communities. >> there is racism physically built into some of our highways. and that's why the jobs plan has dollars specifically committed to reconnect some of the communities that were divided. >> critics of-- are slamming the secretary after he said bieden's infrastructure bill would address racism in highways. >> i guess now according to democrats roads are now racist

and you need to apologize for it. >> roads can't be racist, you can't build racism into a road. roads are made of sand and graph el and asphalt, ask any road builder. roads can not be racist any more than toasters or couches can be raceist they are inanimate objects, they are not a of a alive. >> first toasters can be racei. i can't even count how many time i put white bread into a toaster and it came out wearing black face, that shi it t isn't cool. but yes, the idea that high wastes can be racei has completely blown the minds at fox news and a get why. i get why tuck certificate puzzled. if highways from racist, surely they would have been a guest on his show t it must be very confusing for him. there is actually a real explanation for why pete buttigieg is mad about america's roads, not just because he keeps failing his driver's ed test, no, there is snore reason. let's find out why in another installment of if you don't know, now you know.

>> highways. they are the vital arteries that crisscross america helping the country's truckers transport goods. its workers commute to and from the office. and its o.j.'s flee the lapd. but what you may not know is that when america first started building its highway system back in the 1950s, people were often forced to leave their homes to make room for all these fancy new roads. and guess which people were moved the most. >> guess. >> the federal aid highway act of 1956 was one of the largest public works projects in american history. it added 41,000 miles to our interstate system. >> pretty much every major city in the country, new york, d.c., philadelphia, you have major highways cutting through neighborhoods requiring the demolition of lots of housing and other buildings. >> thinking about where they are going to drop highways and destroy neighborhoods they invariably single out what they

see as the worst neighborhoods in their communities. >> it became a pattern in cities across the country. poorer and minority residents were displaced to make way for highways and white residents use of highways to commute into the city for jobs and commute back home at night. >> planners had an uncanny ability to pick out the black neighborhoods. the routes for i-94-- 94 in st. paul displaced one in seven of the city's black residents. very few blacks were living in minnesota one critic noted but the road builders found them. >> that's right. highway i-94 could have been anywhere in minnesota. but it it just happened to displace the very few black people living in minnesota. more commonly known as the minnesota timberwolves. don't get me wrong, don't get me wrong. these highways had to go somewhere. i'm not say nothing highways but more often than not that somewhere was right through a black neighborhood because you see rich white neighborhoods, they didn't allow this to happen to them. but brown and black families didn't have any political power to stop it. i mean what were they going to

do, take to the streets. it it was impossible. they hadn't been built yet. and look, black people are used to being displaced by gentrification, even today. but at least when that happens they get to enjoy shake shack for a few months first. these highways on the other hand didn't provide any improvement to the neighborhood. they slashed a hole through it. whatever was left of that neighborhood just withered and died. >> from the beginning the rondo neighborhood was a haven for people of color. at its peak from the 30see to the '50s it had black-owned grocery stores, credit unions, and social clubs. during construction from 1956 to 1958 rondo lost 700 houses. 300 businesses, and the population declined by 61 percent. >> in florida over town overtown was the center of black miami, the i-95 tore through the neighbor hootd wiping out countless homes and thriving business district. kansas city, chicago, boston, detroit, new york city, montgomery, los angeles, the list goes on and on.

>> it is actually pretty heartbreaking to see how devastating these highways were for the black communities that they ran through. streets that were once filled with black people are still empty to this day it and of course, of course these communities crumbled once a highway ran through it, highways, think of all the things they bring, they bring noise, they bring pollution, if you really are unlucky spontaneous musical numbers am i'm trying to get to work. i mean you have ever looked on the side of a highway and thought yeah, that looks like a nice place to live. no, you probably think i wonder if i can us the bathroom in that gas station without being murdered. the fact they destroyed black neighborhoods wasn't the only racist thing about how highways were designed. around the time the highways were being built, segregation laws were being struck down in america. but lucky for the racists, they didn't need the laws to enforce segregation. because now the highways did it for them. >> infrastructure didn't just break up black communities, it

reinforced segregation. the 1938 federal housing administration underwriting manual set an artificial barrier like a highway could protect an neighborhood from coat adverse influences like quote inharmonious racial group. >> they laid the interstate down right on the black white line, bam. and what that meant was that it would be much harder to have school integration, you couldn't have kids walking across the interstate for heaven's sake. >> a report from the georgia historical society that while deciding the route of i-20 the atlanta burrow of planning said it twoob the boundary when white and african american communities. >> because the highways in atlanta were laid down primarily with regard to keeping the races apart rather than keeping traffic moving efficiently, it is the way that today traffic in atlanta is incredibly snarled. i-20 zig zags from east to west in a route that makes no sense unless you know it was laid down with the desire to steg regate. >> racism is a hell of a drug.

i mean think about t instead of designing the most efficient highway they instead made it zig zag around the city like some kind of racist mario kart. if you real about mario kart is pretty racist. in real life when italians get in a car accident they don't yell mama mia, i love a that spaghetti, do you have any insurance on you. and guys, i don't know but, but there is nobody that i hate more than i hate traffic. like i will literally shake hands with my worst enemy if it means i can get where i am going 30 minutes faster. i'm still not friends with you, winter. but at least we are both going to get home at 5:00. and i'll make the sunset at 5:00. >> i hate you so much. >> ha ha ha. can you turn on the ac please. >> so yes. highways might not be following black people around department stores or turning them down for loans. but the way that highways were built in america was inarguably

racist. in ways that still effect american society to this day. and i know, like i know that people like tucker and sean hannity love to make it seem like talking about the racist history of highways means that you are show calling people racist today because they still drive on those freeways. you are a racist, no, no, that is not the case. nobody is telling it you to walk to your next family vacation. what we are saying is, if we can try to understand the history of how a thing came to be, then maybe we can figure out how to make it better when we build roads in the future. and if you don't know, now you know. all right, when we come back, dulce sloan is going to get us in the mood for valentine's day. in the mood for valentine's day. oh at chipotle, this is our best chorizo ever. charred and grilled with a rich, smokey flavor. it just happens to be made from plants. everything you love about chipotle, but 100% plant-based.

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show. this monday is valentine's day. the day that will be the reason couples break up sick months from now. but for all the people out there who are already single, we turn to dulce sloan for a valentine's day episode of dulssayin'. >> hello friends, i want to wish all the couples a happy valentine's day. i hope you all have a romantic evening and your carriage ride around the park is filled with horse farts. i have been single for too long because you know, dating apps are digital dumpster diving. the only thing that has got me through t a romance novel.

but not just any romance novel, i am talking about the unsung heroins of the erotic. all the black women writers best one for example the queen of black historical romance, beverly just check out the passage from her novel indigo which i imagine is read to me by jessie williams. >> she moved her hands over the strength of his back, kissing him, flicking her tongue against the edges of his lips, experimenting with the boldness of passion within her. while his hands beneath her gown toured. no man had ever touched her this way. >> damn, i remember the first time i read this, i fell right out of my chair, no, i slid out. i love how she was flicking her tongue against the edges of his lips. ooh, you know a writer is good if they make kissing sound sexy even when it is wrong, like

don't be licking his lips, get that poor man some chapstick. now if you want to go a bit more old school in your romance, you can try ruby saunders. she was best known for a series following nurse marilyn morgan and her steamy affairs with doctors. the series was coming at you with hotlines. >> hank was standing behind her now. and show his arm were around her waste. hank pressed closer. she could feel his breathe on the back of her neck. i won't hurt you, honey. he mur mured as his arms tightened around her. they sank into the cushions. together. >> yeah, listen, everyone knows that sinking into the cushion means good sex, or your couch is too old. either way you are going it to be soar in the morning. by the way, we would never have known many of these authors if it wasn't for book publishers like vivian stevens. she was ground breaking not just because she sowt out writers of color who wrote about women with

real depth but also because she wasn't afraid to publish explicit sex scenes. she changed the game with her publishing company candle light ecstasy which is one of those terms that only belongs in a romance novel. if you can combine candle light and ecstasy in real life, are you going to use your-- lose your eyebrows, steven helped publish great authors like sandra kitt who wrote love stories featuring both black and white characters so she referred to herself as a switch hitter, which i still think means something different now. is that when a dick is ambidextrous like he can hold a pen with his left and right testicle. anyway one of her greatest contributions was the novel adam and eva. this is about eva dunkin' escaping the death of her husband, takes a vacation to the virgin islands and basically by the time she leaves, they are just called the islands. what i like about sandra's writing is how she he voaks the physical sensation of sex and

also the butt. just check out this passage. >> the journey up the back of one thigh, causing a quaking at the center of herred body as she pressed her buttocks to bring her against his distinct hard mass you lynn form. she finally came to her senses. pulling her mouth away with a gasp and turning competely within the circle of-- . >> well, i wasn't-- well, i guess that about raps it up for book lub so when you are sitting curled up with a book about people curled up with each other, make sure not to forget the black women that paveed the way for you to hear lines in your headlining this. >> they could resist each other no longer. she and her robe, skin a he a glow, he hovered above her,

lustful yet firm. whispering her name, dulce. >> dulce, really, did you write this. >> that didn't you go to acting school? >> no. >> oh? okay. i see you. >> trevor: thank you so much for that dulce. when we come back, i'll be talking to the woman who exposed facebook's biggest secret. facebook's biggest secret. you ♪ the best part about doing things yourself. ♪ it's free. like doing your own taxes with h&r block free online. where more people can file free than with turbotax. help is here. ♪"don't ya leave" by squeak e clean♪ ♪ ♪ [doorbell] ♪ ♪ [squeak] ♪ [click] [doorbell]

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learned that facebook and what social media is doing is essentially destroying teenagers brains and harming all of us. >> yeah, that report? happened because of you. so let's start with the question of why. you worked for google, you work for pinterest, yell, and yet you blew the whistle on facebook, why did you feel like this is something i can't sit on. >> so when i joined facebook i thought i was going to work on misinformation in the united states. and i was surprised and i actually was charged with working on information, only outside the united states. and like many people in many technologies, i had never really focused on facebook's impact internationally. and very rapidly i realized kind of the horrifying magnitude of the danger that we were facing. that facebook's algorithms get the most reach to the most extreme and divisive ideas. and that, that process is destabilizing some of the most fragile places in the world like

ethiopia or what happened in myanmar. >> you see when you say that, there were some people who will accept it immediately. and there are some people that say that is not true. but i'm sure there are a lot of people that say but i mean, aren't they always going to be extreme people in the world. you know, there is always somebody saying something. facebook themselves say they go hey, we're not part of the problem. we're merely a platform that people put their views on. we are not part of the problem. and you disagree with that. >> so let's imagine you had a relative who had particularly extreme ideas. you know, we like the crazy uncle. some of us have those. that person if we are talking to them one-on-one or at a family gathering, that scale allows for resolution of ideas. >> trevor: okay. >> what is happening on facebook right now is ideas that are the most able to at the lissity a reaction and the shortest path to a click is anger, those get the most reach, and ideas that are more moderate or try to bring us into synthesis or help

us find a middle path, those aren't as likely to elicit a comment from you or elicit a like. so facebook doesn't get as much distribution. >> trevor: so facebook is sinlly propelling certain ideas out there. they may say we're the platform but they areas advocating for certain view points because they push those out because they get people engaged and spinning in the cycle. >> it is not they go how can he with get more extreme ideas, i don't think that what they are trying to do, but they do know there are lots of solutions that are not about censorship, not about taking good or bad ideas or people, it is about how do we change the dynamics of these systems so that you could have a good speech counter bad speech. how do we give those more. >> trevor: it st interesting that you lay it outlining this. because i remember talking to my friends about this saying have we become angrier in the world. have we become less able to-- i sit with my friends, i go like i don't agree on so many things with myefriends. but i don't remember a time when

that meant that i couldn't be friends with them. in the world of social media right now it feels like if i disagree with you on this, i disagree with you on everything. it seems like facebook if you disagree on this we are going to make or find more ways to find ways to disagree or how to nake you disagree. >> some people have this idea of like facebook is always looking for fault lines, so a high dwawlt piece of content is one that gets lots of engagement. it turns out an angry comment thread where it causes us to dwrel at each other, that is due to the higher quality of con tent. so during covid i had friends who wrote very long thoughtful pieces that digested lots of information, that will cause less knee jerk reaction than something that really offends you. >> trevor: so marks don't work. >> yeah. >> trevor: here is the thing about that we have to consider, facebook is not pushing that. so what is interesting, you know, everything that you have done even though you are a whistle-blower, came out with

this information, you have never said i'm anti-facebook. never said shut facebook down. never said it needs to go away. >> no. >> trevor: what you are arguing for is we change our relationship with not just facebook but social media companies as a whole. explain what that means. >> often people talk of this idea we need to change our relationship with social mediament it is more about should we use our poans so much. i am encouraged to have a conversation about what is our relationship with companies. what do companies relationship with us. facebook knows that they have a level of unaccountability, very different than google or apple or other big platforms because in the case of google, we can scrape, download their results and analyze them and see if there are biases, and with apple, we can take apart the phones and put up youtube videos saying apple phones do or don't work the way they claim. in the case of facebook, researchers and activists have been telling it facebook hey, we have found all these examples. we think there is a pattern. which think there is too much human trafficking, we think kids are suffering. facebook keeps coming back saying no, no one can call them

on it, and saying that is not real. >> when you release information it wasn't anecdotal t was real. >> facebook knew about it. >> trevor: this reminded me of the tobacco company, it reminded us of fossil fuel companies. they do the research. they find out something really bad and then i mean obviously they go like we're not going to put this out there but we know, one of the biggest things that has really gotten people worried is how social media affects younger brains. i mean it affects my brain, i don't consider myself younger any more but young people are like, seems like at the highest risk. >> yeah, face book's certainly research says that the highest problematic use is age 14, are you not allowed to be on the plat norm until you are 13, it takes time to form that habit but the largest fraction of any of those age cohorts they sampled, they have done studies that have 100,000 people trk is not tiny studies. they find that the largest fractions say i can't control my

usage and i know it's impacting my health, my employment or my school it is at age 14, so there is a real thing where young people have both, they are struggling with issues in their life. and they don't have the self-control and they say this to researchers. they say i know this is making me feel bad. and i can't stop. i feel the ostracize if i leave. and those factors mean it is not easy for kids just to walk away. >> it is also not easy for people to understand how to fix it. you have lawmakers now who are trying to figure this thing out silicon valley is way ahead, way ahead of them. you see these hearings, what if my facebook is an insta flap. they don't understand what's happening. so how do we begin creating a world where we are not destroying the companies but we're regulating them the way they should be. >> so the main thing i'm advocating now is transparency. because one of the problems today is because facebook is the only one that holds the cards, they can see whether or not they are holding a royal flush or

not, what they claim. we need to move to a world where we have more access it to data. and that can be aggregate data, privacy sensitive data it doesn't have to-- it is just a fase choice of privacy versus transparency. and once we have the ability to have conversations we can stop talk tbg boog quee man social media and start having conversations about how tho solve these problems. i think what we need to do and this is what i will spend 2022 doing is we need to start organizing people. i want to plant a youth directed movement where we can begin putting pressure on facebook to release this information. because i don't think facialbook is going to did automatically out of the goodness of its heart. we have to force them to and i think there is lots of opportunities where we can begin putting pressure on them either socially or financially. >> you use social media as a person who speaks to my prends on social media. have i my enemies on social media, i appreciate this conversation because i think if we're not careful we end up in a world where we will fight to really just because an algorithm

is trying to help us with those fights. i notice even with the show, if i say a thing on the show, this is like the most interesting thing for me, depending on what i say, facebook sends that to different people. one time we had-- we had on the show where literally i laid out both arguments. i said here is one way to see it. here is another way but then on facebook only one way went to each group. and i was fascinated by that. because then people are like why didn't you say the other. that is exactly what i said, well, i didn't see that. and you realize dns did. >> one thing that happens is let's say you take a video clip, let's say you have out of any given one of your shows people put on youtube lots of little different chunks. people can receive those on facebook over and over again and they do. and each time that enters into pacebook, to eye group, it entered into the network in a different way. and the algorithm begins picking up data and says interesting, these kinds of people engage.

and so because it is entering from so many different points it gets a chance to learn what kinds of people are seeing these, and so that echo chamber is real, the algorithm pulls uls towards-- it is almost like facebook knows that you react most to your neighbor when they play loud music. there is no reaction from you when your neighbor is doing other things but when they play loud mus thaik is when you react, facebook. >> it is even worse than that,. >> trevor: how can it be worse. >> imagine it is music that you like and music you don't like. it actually knows you really don't like, i don't know-- and one of the things in the documents is that people talk about especially people from marginalized communities that they will go and crack dk dk people spreading racist homophobic comments now facebook knows you engage withs no keywords. >> so they send more.

>> i didn't know they were doing that. >> they don't do it on purpose t is a side effect. >> trevor: a side effect of the way the algorithm works. >> it st designed to get as much engagement as possible and the engagement unfortunately means you are more likely, there is a car accident, i'm going to enimaij. >> yeah. >> or more of if they had an option of showing a stream of different things they know you guac at car accidents so they show you more of them. >> trevor: man, this is hard because on the one hand i go i need to stop looking at car scents but the brain is the brain. >> it's the brain. if all the-- ai is not intelligent, we always say artificial intelligence. but the people that actually study it call it machine learning because it is not intelligent t is just a hill climber tks is oment miezing. and you know, think of all the different pieces of content, it is not trying to show you more eck dream content, it happens to be to fulfill its goal function, in mindilessly pushes you towards it. so this is about facebook making choices to not fix it. that facebook has lots of

options. trs and the machine run wild. >> the machine run wild. >> trevor: money. >> money. >> trevor: that is what st, thank you so much for being here, this is really enlightening. good luck on the rest of your journey. >> thank you so much. >> trevor: if you want to learn more about frances advocacy work you can go to frances haugen.com. we will take a quick break and be right bac

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