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♪♪ >> coming to you from new york city, the only city in america, it's "the daily show"! tonight, reloading the gun debate. crazy athletic asians. and kellyanne conway. that is "the daily show" with trevor noah! ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome to "the daily show"! i'm trevor noah! thank you so much for tuning in! thank you for being here! take a seat. we have got a jam packed show for you today. we're going to be talking about what america's plan is to stop these mass shootings. ronny chieng is celebrating

asian-american and pacific islander month, and our guest tonight is former advisor to president donald john trump, kellyanne conway. let's jump straight into today's big headlines. ( cheers and applause ) all right, there's no denying that there is a lot going on in the world right now. for instance, russia is still invading ukraine, and in response the european union just announced they will be banning almost aller russian oil imports which will turn russia's currency into the tick tock crime filter all the time. there's also a growing outbreak of monkeypox, a disease killing off everyone's n.f.t.s. so please, everyone, vaccinate your monkey, remember. ( laughter ) and, by the the way, they're saying it's spread mostly through sex, yeah. so at least now when you show up

to the doctor with monkeypox, your doctor can be like, my man... ( laughter ) oh, and on top of all of that, someone threw a cake at the mona lisa. yes. which apparently was to protest climate change. ( laughter ) sounded weird, but apparently most people don't know this about the mona lisa, but if you widen out on that picture of her, she's actually driving a hummer. not cool. that's where the picture's from. so much happening in the world, but america can't focus on any of that stuff because, once again, america is reeling from mass shootings, all the way from buffalo, new york to uvalde, texas, people are asking how long can this keep going on? and here's the good news, in response a major bill has been announced which would ban the new sales of handguns and allow the government to forcefully buy back assault rifles -- in canada. yeah, this is completely real.

canada saw what happened here, and they're shutting down guns there. yeah. at this point, america is basically a scared straight program that gets other countries on the right path. ever smell someone so bad you decide you need to take a shower? that's the way america is with gun laws to other countries, they're like -- sniff -- sniff, we need to do something about guns. la offlaugh liberal americans are open to common sense restrictions on guns to keep americans safe. there is still a small yet powerful group of gun (~bleep~) who believe the problem with gun violence is not because of guns, no, it's because of everything else. >> part of the problem is how this generation of kids exists mostly online. they see actual violence as is portrayed in the movies they watch, the music they listen to and the video games they play. when i played war, the boys were allowed to be boys. i said to my friend, an di, bang, you're dead. but the difference is we knew it was fake.

and an digot up afterwards. and we went and jumped in the fire hydrant or whoever had a pool -- >> trevor: what? first of all, why do i feel like an di's fake? and, second of all, what is this loser talking about? kids know games are fake, my man. no one is turning off "grand theft auto," like, shit, i just ran over 80 pedestrians, should i get a lawyer? oh, my god i'm too young for jail! what am i gonna do? ( laughter ) the argument that video games causes violence falls apart when you know the entire world populistens to music and plays video games. not like in sweden snoop dogg is like rat, at that time, at that time, and i never hesitate to put a hat on a -- cat. same music, why not getting the same results? please, gun fanatics don't just want to pan video games and music, they also want to replace

them with what they say are lost values. >> the only solution is christ jesus and being able to gelt spirituality and prayer in our schools. today we live in a country where our minimummials parts rate for church is under 30% in a lot of locations. this is the lowest church paforts pays we've ever had as a nation. and, so, it just shows you why you see so much chaos in our streets. >> trevor: yeah, i mean, that could be one solution, we need to bring jesus into our schools. i don't know how jesus would feel about that because if i was jesus i would be, like, yo, forget that, look what you did to me with nails, i'm not coming back when there are guns, ar-15s, i've learned my lesson. ( applause ) if you think gun violence in america is high because people aren't going to church, why don't they have the same gun violence in europe because there nobody goes to church. it's like a thing that's done now. if you go to church in germany,

even the preacher will be like, oh! oh, jeez, you scared me, no one comes in here anymore, i forget there was a door. moamgd, that was crazy. oh... ( laughter ) gun lovers have been blaming the same causes over and over again for decades, although, this time, to their credit, they've come up with a new things to blame. it's not the guns, it's the books. >> we stopped teaching values in so many of our schools, now we're beaching wokeness, indoctrinating our children with things like c.r.t. >> trevor: that's how evil critical race theory is, around only for a year and already caused three decades of school shootings. it's so tough, goes back in time, it's so powerful. ( laughter ) look, man, i know you guys want to blame anything but guns, but it still has to make sense. can we agree? you can't blame stuff you're already mad ate. these guys are, like, maybe

there wouldn't be so many violent shootings if my wife would stop flirting with the landscaping. is it just me? ( laughter ) they make it sound like a lesson about the importance of not shooting people because they we want too long on slavery. it doesn't make sense. if it's not religion or vyings, maybe it's the school's fault. >> one of the things everyone agreed is don't have all of these unlocked back doors. have one door into and out of the school. >> i would like to see a national push toward instead of parent buying their kids all these tools and toys and games, invest in the classroom to make it safer. they have blankets you put up on the wall that are colorful and beautiful but they are're ballistic blankets. >> man traps, which could be a

trip wire, and it traps the shooter like a rat. ( laughter ) >> trevor: are these people hearing themselves? you think kids can't tell fantasy from reality, but your suggestion is how about we make a school with steel doors that slam and windows that turn into concrete or even better whole school becomes a transformer, yeah, so that way when the school shooter comes, the whole school can run away from it. ( laughter ) not to mention, have you guys ever been in a school? huh? you realize the fire alarm gets pulled as a prank once a week. you think the jocks aren't constantly going to toss the in other words into the man trap? ( laughter ) do you listen to yourselves? and even if those ideas don't work, even if they don't, there's one solution that conservatives love to come back to time and time again, and over

the weekend it was proposed yet again by none other than donald jarhead trump. >> what we need now is a top to bottom security overhaul at schools all across the country and above all from this day forward, every school in america should have a police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: yeah. yeah. you know, always hear people saying this after a school shooting, what we need is armed police officers in the school. what's amazing about the debate this time is they're still saying it even though, in the shooting that just happened, there was an armed police officer, and it didn't help. classic trump, proposing a solution after it already failed. ( laughter ) i mean, he would have been a lot of fun in the life goes after the titanic. next time, we should just ram that iceberg really hard. what's the worst that could

happen? what do you think, jack? what do you think? ( laughter ) and as we've all heard by now, there wasn't just an armed resource officer on the scene, there was a whole platoon of police officers who responded to the shooting but didn't stop it while it was still going on. i'm willing to guess because they're scared of a gunman armed with an ar-15. i feel like that's what we have to ask ourselves, as a society, do we want to live in a world where anyone can legally buy weapons that the police are scared of? huh? and just by the way, for me, it's been amazing to see how some people love guns so much that they've gone from blue lives matter to screw these cops, if they're not here to get shot, what's the point of having them around, (~bleep~) the police. you don't care about the cop's lives? i would say get rid of the ar-15s and make the officers'

jobs more safe. maybe it's just me. ( applause ) it's why people flip, whenever you feel like it. it's crazy how the cops can do anything, right? they shoot people because they think they have a gun. and now they're, like, they know it's a gun. they're, like, whoa, can't shoot them. if it's a wallet, maybe. but i mean -- so, look, i know america is never going to do what canada is doing. i don't expect that. the gun culture in this country is too far engrained to truly get rid of it. i know we're not going to stop gun violence altogether, i'm not naive, but i would hope that, after a tragedy like this, americans could agree that losing some of these is worth it to prevent losing more of these. don't go away because after the break ronny chieng is celebrating a.a.p.i. month and kellyanne conway will be joining us on the show. we'll be right back. ( cheers and applause )

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( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: welcome back to "the daily show." throughout the month of may, people have been celebrating asian-american and pacific islander heritage month and tonight, for the last day of may, ronny chieng decided to school us the way only he can. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> that's right, people. we've got our own month!

and in honor of a.a.p.i. month, i'm going to teach you about the most underrepresented demographic of all time, asian-americans in sports, not just the heavy hitters, you got a problem with that? take it up with the u.n. i was to focus on the underdogs who blazed the trail for all the other asian-american athletes to come, people like the japanese american who played not one but two professional sports, and unlike mile jordan, he didn't suck at one of them. also he never became a criy. in the wake of world war ii, this man face add ton of discrimination even while playing. when he would get tackled, the opposing team would punch and kick him. it's football! everyone's going home with brain damage already, you don't need

to force it. after a wrist injure in 1941, this man decided to play be able and play for the giants where he was an 11-time all-star and became the first american player ever to be inducted into the japanese baseball hall of fame. crazy thing, he faced racism in japan, too, but this time because he was american. at games the fans would chant yankee go home, which is normally something you expect to hear only at red sox games. or, honestly, any place in boston that serves alcohol. but enough about baseball,ing let's talk about something people actually watch, the olympics. in 1948, victoria became the first a.a.p.i. olympic champion, but being filipino she faced a lot of discrimination. when younger and used a public pool, they would drain the water after she wall in it which is idiotic -- you double your water bill because you're afraid of

catching being asian? you can't get that from pool, you have to share the same straw. against the odds, mnala won the gold metal in the spring board and cheered on by the first asian-american man to win an olympic gold medal, at the same games, like asian christmas, which is just christmas, but not every asian who broke the color barrier had a happy ending. in 1948, lar larry kwong was one for a minute and never played again. but breaking the color barrier is like losing your virgin at this. even if you didn't even do it for a second, it counts. walter became the first person of asian dissent to play in the n.f.l. he earned the nickname sneeze. sadly this was before athlete sponsorships were a name so he

couldn't even get the sweet kleenex money. eventually he retired from the n.f.l. to compete in a safer sport, wrestling, proving asians can roll around with our balls in a space like everyone else. my personal favorite sport basketball, the first non-white player in any race in n.b.a. history was a japanese american. in 1947, the first draft pick of the new york knicks, and promoted his skills to sell tickets, but faced a lot of anti-japanese sentiment and ended up only playing three games. it was so bad he decided to go back to school to get his engineering degree, which i respect. he was basically like, oh, you don't like me being asian? i'm going to be extra asian now, bitches. sports isn't just about the athlets. so many others made history without destroying the joins. people like kim who became the general manager of the miami marlins, the first asian g.m. in

any american league, she worked her way up the ladder facing racism and sexism. the surf and turf of discrimination. so many asian-americans in sports history. my meager salary is enough, don't thank me. this will all be on a final. happy a.a.p.i. month, idiots. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: when we come back, former advisor to president trump, kellyanne conway, is joining me on the show. so don't go away. ( cheers and applause ) literally balling is the title of my art studio. i'm trying to build layers of meaning into each piece. showing people that basketball can be a platform for community to come together. make moves that start movements. hennessy. the spirit of the nba

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kellyanne conway, welcome to "the daily show." >> thank you for having me. >> trevor: there are few guests that i have on the show that get more people asking the question why. i say, kellyanne conway is going to be on the show. people say why? some of my friends are, like, oh, she's going to lie to you, flip things around, spin things, why? >> you know why they're really asking that? >> trevor: why? ( laughter ) >> they think they know me, the caricature is real and they don't want to hear from people who disagree with them. >> trevor: i don't think that's true. >> i think it's very true of many people. >> trevor: i think what happens is people get frustrated, especially in america, because they feel like they're being toyed with. i'm not putting this all on you, i actually found the book interesting. there were parts to have the book that i felt like illuminated stories you never told or parts of being in the

trump presidency nobody knew about and i guess maybe that's like the first question i had about your job and what you were doing with president trump and that is, when you were working in the white house, and you had the position that you had, when you were working for an administration, do you feel like there are times when you have to lie to protect the president, or do you feel like you have to do that because you're furthering a greater good? >> no, none of the above. first of all, the president offered me the press secretary job within an hour or an hour and a half of being elected, in 2016. i said no. he said you would be great. i thought i would be a terrible secretary. i don't know what they do. so i took a policy job, but i kept getting pulled out to speak on behalf of the white house, on behalf of the country, and i have to tell you, people will say, how can you go up against this anchor? they asked me the same question, why would you go on this show and deal with that anchor, they're not fair to you and only prefer democrats. i say, the people are the

audience. there are folks out there, the forgotten man, woman, child, who would knot otherwise have access to information, news they can use, facts and figures that affect their everyday lives, but there were many times i didn't speak, many things i didn't address. i either felt i was not the expert on them or i didn't have all the answers, but i would know, you know, all the smart men around me did not go on tv, did not come face the music, did not come and explain. i was almost like their mop-up girl and spokes model sometimes. that's what they wanted so they can be behind the scenes working on important policy. i have to tell you, even this white house, when it started the biden-harris white house, they said look at us we have a 100% female press and com shop, of course because women don't get as many policy jobs. so i worked on veterans, military, military spouses, the tax cut and jobs acts, the opioid cries, education, healthcare reform, the list goes on and on, and you find out in

please public service jobs, trevor, you can help make a difference in people's lives and i think many of the trump-presence accomplishments have done exactly that, we were better off economically energywise, people were not in ukraine -- >> trevor: no, forgive me -- >> how much did you pay for gas today. >> trevor: you're doing what you're good at now. >> yeah, speaking the truth. >> trevor:, no, it's not answering the question i asked you. >> i did answer it. i said no. >> trevor: no, no, i'm what i'm saying is this -- and i don't want to have a confrontational conversation with you because when i was reading the book it felt more like a conversation with you as a person. >> yes. >> trevor: so let me ask it this way, so here you have a situation, where in the books you talk about how you were auburn "times" the voice of reason in the room. i have no reason to not believe that. you talk about in the book at how you said to donald trump, hey, you lost the election, you have lost this election. >> what i actually said was we were talking about the

december 14th deadline, that was the date by which the electors would certify the election and they were about to certify it for joe biden and kamala harris, and in the six weeks prior to that i long left the white house, but in the six weeks prior to that the president and his legal team were trying to find proof of theft and fraud and malfeasance and shenanigans. i think there are many unanswered questions from 2020 we'll never know. but i said it looks like you're coming up short for the certification dead. other people -- >> trevor: don't go to either people. >> no, to go to january 6th and do a different society of case. >> trevor: i'm not talking january 6th. i'm saying what's interesting is you said this in the book, i'm talking about a now issue, you said this in the book, since the book came out, donald trump came out on i think truth social and said, no, kellyanne conway is lying, she never told me i lost and if she told me that, i would have fired her on the spot. so let's see in that -- say in that instance --

>> he didn't use the word lier or fire. he said i wouldn't have dealt with her anymore. >> trevor: i wouldn't have dealt with her anymore? ( laughter ) >> i told him he came up short. i broke my heart. i wish he were still the president, things are much better. >> trevor: you're saying you did tell him. >> i told him i was coming up short for december 14th. i'm very candid. this is not a tell all and bore most. this is my meme memoir, 500 pagy life story, first female campaign manager, senior counselor to the president and what that minted. >> trevor: i'll get to those parts. you're saying the truth is you told him and -- >> joe biden is the president. i don't think everything was completely fair and transparent but joe biden is the president -- >> trevor: the people are right now. the people said she's going to do the thing to you, you're

doing the thing to me. >> that joe biden is the president? >> trevor: no, didn't ask you that question. >> okay. >> trevor: i asked you who's telling the truth. as in you told one side to have the story, donald trump told another side of the storysh and what you're telling me is you're saying his side of the story is not true. >> i'm telling you i told him before the december 14th december 14th deadline -- >> trevor: which he disagrees with. so maybe this is what i'm trying to say, in this book, what i found particularly interesting is you given us an insight into the trump white house and how it worked or how sometimes it didn't work. you know, you've had some of the more scathing opinions on people like jared kushner, for instance. you don't mince your words in the book about jared or steve bannon, and, you know, it feels like you felt like at times they, you know, got away with not being as good as the job as you felt they should have been. >> well, i think if the president, your boss in a workplace, asks you to work together as a team, you should try to do that, and this just happened to be the west wing, so

it was very important people be collaborative and not confrontational. there was a lot of undercutting if not usurping of other people's duties and responsibilities and gratuitously nasty stuff going on, also, and it happened at the very beginning. here's something along with -- george, my husband decided to move to washington, d.c. and move our children there and he took a big job in the trump administration, and we have people constantly knifing me and throwing logs in my path. i had two choices, i can slink away or crawl under the desk and hope the emotional shrapnel doesn't hit me or hold my head high and forge ahead and be one small molecule working for positive change. in the end, a lot of those guys got fired, slinked away in shame, didn't last long. >> trevor: true. >> in many cases, i think my balls were bigger. ( laughter ) >> trevor: in fact, actually, to that point, let's talk

about -- this is a moment, you were an advisor to the president. this is what i find interesting -- one of my strangest moments even during the show was when president donald trump came out and he said -- there was a mass shooting and he said you know what we need to do? we need to raise the age limit, he said we need to ban assault rifles. he said you republicans who don't want to do it, you're scared to have the n.r.a., he came out, had all these measures, which even on the show i said was amazing, fantastic, many were shocked. then we learned recently some of his insiders convinced him, mick mulvaney was one of them, who said don't do this, you will lose and trump said i don't care, we need to do this, and he got convinced out of it. how did his team convinced him out of it? this is a man who said i can build the wall and find a way to do it. what do we not know about the gun lobby and world that they managed to push donald trump

away from his original position. >> the premise is flawed because i was in those conversations and he did talk about different measures, but they didn't come to the senate, they didn't reach his desk. a president signs into law the congress has the guts to put there. >> trevor: that's not true though. >> i was there after the parkland, valentine's day 2018 -- >> trevor: i'm asking how he got shifted from his position. >> and i flew to him -- with him to santa fe when children were killed there, high schoolers and two teachers there, and i learned people are very quick to say it's this and that problem. it's a spectrum, it's never one thing. >> trevor: completely. >> it's never one thing that can solve it. >> trevor: so nothing gets done. >> nothing has gotten done. if you have a president who's been there 50 years, i hope he can say -- >> trevor: don't say he was there for 50 years. no, no, donald trump was there.

i'm saying to you as an advisor, and i mean this honestly -- >> you're playing kellyanne conway, you're not even a fan of the semicolon tonight. i'm listening to what you're saying. >> trevor: no, i'm saying you do have the ear of many powerful republicans. you are in the rare position of speaking to donald trump and mike pence right now. you're one of the few people who's the connective tissue of many parts of the republican party, old and new. maybe i would ask you asen an advisor now what are some of the common sense ideas -- because these are moments that shouldn't be republican and democrat, these are children. >> you just said the most important word. i know people talk about guns and mental health and hardening targets, i'm thinking through the vantage point to have the children, and we should start there on all these matters. i learned that in listening to the parkland families. i learned that after the dayton shooter had his juvenile words were kept private, in other words his privacy versus the

security of other people. i learned that when we looked at parkland and you saw the f.b.i. visited many times and nobody ever did anything. these madmen, these moral de. d. at depravties, people who see something should say something. people who are around these folks and say to them should feel free to go to the authorities under cover of privacy and report that. here's what i think should happen with the children, you know, there trevor, if we actedh the same gust to to protect our children from violence as from the virus, which we should have done, but now have $112 billion in last year's america rescue plan in post-pandemic money for the schools. 92% of it, according to the "wall street journal" last week, is unspent. why? because they already did the ventilation, the stickers, the

masks, now we're moving on to it's earmarked for mental health and more teachers and counselors, for lost learning, and we should be spending that money. it's 7 billion just here in new york city, the largest school district in the country and it's not spent yet because it expires september 2024. they're trying to figure out how to do it. let's take that money already passed and approved by the president, let's take the money and shift it over to keeping kids safe in school. >> trevor: saying nothing on the side of guns themselves. >> 19 states have red flag walls. these states have taken action where washington has not. the state of florida, republican governor rick scott, passed red flag laws after parkland, florida. it is possible as people are saying say something, do something, to do something. i don't know what's happening in congress. i want to feel hopeful that people will come together to keep the children safe because it shouldn't be an occupational

hazard to go to school and fire for their safety. but there are signs along the way, and people should feel free, instead of judging meme's social media post and canceling people, let's say that person is slinging an arkansas 1r5 online saying he aspires to be a school shooter, half the class is afraid of him, why don't we do something about that? i was disappointed to hear senator chris murphy of connecticut say last week don't give me the bullshit about mental health, we don't have mental health problems in any other countries. excuse me, it is a big problem. we have to start investing in that. i believe in the case of buffalo, there was a red flag should be triggered and the shorts did not do anything about it, the buffalo shooter. here in uvalde, this murderer who just recently turned 18, i believe, there were warning signs and people were afraid of him and they said he would torture cats and brag about i'm going to rape you, i'm going to

be a school shooter, i think you have to take people like that seriously and not look the other way. so there are a spectrum of solutions. >> trevor: if i hear you correctly, which i would agree, you're saying you look at the red flags and the the moments ahead of time you can find reasons to restrict people from gaining access to guns because you say this is not conducive to society. >> not even should have it. >> trevor: for real. i didn't think we would have an agreement on the show. this is fantastic. >> i listen to you. this country, i write in my book at the end, the publisher simon and scheuster, the head there asked me can you dig deeper and try to unify the country, i did try. one thing i said that i think it's important is we can talk about bipartisanship about finding come on ground, i always think that's valuable, but we also feed nooooo toed realize not everybody in the country wants to wear the red and blue uniform all day.

ewith don't want politics in every meal and conversation at your place of worship or work, and the kids playground. we have much more in common in this beautiful country filled with amazing people than people realize, but these cultural cleavings are very real, and we have to confront that and we have to i think deal with it. if donald trump wants to be president again, the simplest path is to run against joe biden. he can have a cage match rematch, and i think people will pay attention to that, that's what people want to do. that's the smoothest, easiest path if he really want to do that. but we have to also respect that the growing number of people in this country, they are upset with what's going on in washington. they feel excluded from the process, excluded from the system. >> trevor: can i tell you what i think happens in america that's particularly interesting is america is one of the few countries i've lived in with politicians complain about politics being a tool that should be used to change a

country when they are in the position of changing the country. >> i love it. that's right. ( applause ) >> trevor: it's been great having you on the show. i could chat for hours. unfortunately, that's the time we have. thanks for joining me. not many people would. kellyanne's memoir "here's the deal" is available now. okay, we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. ( cheers and applause ) i wasn't going very far.

i was in a hurry. it's too uncomfortable. sometimes i just forget.

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- all right, let's try over here. set up traps there and there as well. last time i saw him, he ran right through here. - this is so retarded, cartman. you've got everyone believing your stupid story. - it isn't a story, it's true. i saw a leprechaun. i've seen him come through here three days in a row now. hawkeyes, this is dragonwind. do you copy? - this is hawkeyes. we've set up the net, and we're standing by. - copy that, hawkeyes. keep surveillance tag alpha-niner. dragonwind out. - just admit you were lying, cartman, so that everyone can go home. - oh, no. we have a deal, kyle. if i can prove there's a leprechaun, you have to suck my balls, remember? dragonwind to blackie. what's your six, blackie?