( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: what's going on, everybody. welcome to "the daily show." i'm trevor noah. thank you so much for tuning in. thank you so much for coming out in person. this is it. look at you. look at you. look at you. take a seat. we have got a jam-packed show for you tonight. prince charles is balling out of control. reparations are finally here for one black family. and the supreme court has learned the error of its ways and vow to do better. no, i'm just kidding. they're going to kill us all. let's do this, people. let's jump straight into today's headlines. ( applause ) okay. let's kick things off with the supreme court. america's got talent but for laws and stuff. from the moment amy coney barrett was sworn in, it was

only a matter of time before the supreme court started restoring america back to its factory settings. and in the last few weeks, they decided that church and state should get a little cozier. they decided that america's real gun problem is that there aren't enough of them. and they decided that koochies are state property. and today, as they were closing out their term, they decided this. >> the big news out of the u.s. supreme court, the high court just handing down their final two decisions of this historic term. first, a major environmental case, the court deciding 6-3 in favor of sharply curbing the e.p.a.'s authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. >> they say big setback for the biden administration for its efforts to restrict global warming. >> trevor: wait, what? the supreme court ruled that the enviroenvironmental protection y does not have the authority to protect the environment? ( laughter ) so what is their job now?

( laughter ) they're going to look at the environment and be like, "oh, shit! all right, that was a good day at work. you guys want to get some drinks? ( laughter ) and by the way, i don't know if it's the same for you, it's always weird to me how the news in america frames some of these stories. like, "this is a defeat for the biden administration." it is a defeat for human life. ( applause ) ( cheering ) it has nothing to do with biden. you realize if we don't get it under control, climate change is going to wipe us off the planet. and assistant news anchors are going to be underwater, "will the rising sea levels hurt the democrats and help the republicans in the midterms? and by the way, by the way, just so you understand, this ruling might not just be about the carbon emissions. a lot of experts believe the logic of today's ruling makes it harder for the government to regulate anything unless congress specifically passes a law to do it. because you see, right now, a lot of regulations are made by

agencies, like the f.d.a., they will handle food, the c.d.c. with public health. the b.r.b., with ignoring text messages. and i know these agencies aren't perfect-- don't get me wrong. but could you imagine if congress had to approve, like, vaccines? imagine if you had to wait for them. it would have never happened. we'd still all be locked in our houses clapping out of our windows because congress couldn't convince marjorie taylor greene that needles weren't actually a space alien conspiracy. "then where did they come from?" ( laughter ) the one thing that's clear is that from environmental regulations to abortion, to guns, to school prayer, to voter rights, this is one of the most radical supreme courts in american history. and, by the way, people agree on that from across the political spectrum. you know, rachel madow is like, "this is so radical. and sean hannity is like, "this is so radical! wooo!" ( laughter ) and they're also imposing their power on a country that, for the

most part, for the most part, isn't on board with any of it. which is why many liberals are now calling for some major reforms, like adding more seats to the court or imposing term limits or setting up a trap for brett kavanaugh. ( cheers and applause ). you never know. it might work. but let's move on. let's move on from the people handing down the judgments to the people receiving them. this week, we saw two major sex trafficking cases come to an end. one was with r. kelly. r&b legend and guy we wish head stayed trapped in the closet. and the other was ghislaine maxwell, windowless van in human form. and the good news is, the good news is, they're going to have a long time to think about what they've done. >> grammy winning singer and songwriter r. kelly has been sentenced to 30 years in prison for racketeering and sex trafficking. kelly was convicted of running a criminal enterprise that recruited women and young girls for sex. >> 20 years behind bars for convicted sex trafficker ghislaine maxwell. the 60-year-old was found guilty

of conspiring with the late financier and convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein to sexually abuse and traffic young girls. >> trevor: yeah, that's right, r. kelly is getting 30 years in prison and ghislaine maxwell is getting 20. and once again, we see that women are only earning two-thirds of what men get. ( applause ) shame ow, america! shame on you! she did all that work, and jeffrey epstein, a man, still got all the credit! not to mention, she gets sentenced for 20 years, but, jeffrey epstein, he was in prison, what,s a few weeks? and then hillary got him out? you know what's crazy about this, what's crazy about this thing is how everyone has a conspiracy theory about jeffrey epstein or who's going to come for ghislaine maxwell. everyone. but what i've noticed is it depends on what people's politics is. some people, "it's going to be donald trump." "it's going to be hillary." " it's going to be the royal family." "illuminati." you know what i was thinking,

wouldn't it be funny if everyone was right? what if all these powerful people were involved and they all bump into each org the way to ghislaine maxwell's cell. they get there, "oh, my god, crooked hillary. what are you doing here?" "it's so knargs,s i was going to-- oh, and the queen as well. what are you doing? it's an honor." she's like, "i'm just here to protect my embarrassing son. you know what that is like." >> eric is not my son. he's not my son. ( cheers and applause ). so ghislaine maxwell's sentence, and r. kelly's sentence, whatever prison r. kelly is going to is going to get a major upgrade. that dude is going to dominate the prison talent show. i'm sorry, the guy who won last year, nobody gives a shit about your juggling riect now. in fact, whichever prison r. kelly goes to, they better jack up the security, because once r. kelly sings, i don't care how

much you hate him, no one can stop dancing. start singing, "in the name of love." ♪ step, step, round and round ♪ ( applause ) nobody can stop. by the way, i wish they would have given us that song and taken r. kelly. the-- the song did nothing. you could have adopted the song, like a child. "i'll look after this song." ( laughter ) but anyway, yeah. justice has been served. and let this be a lesson to other prominent sex traffickers-- the law will catch up with you. after letting you totally get away with it for, like, 25 years. you watch out. you watch out. it doesn't matter. r. kelly, ghislaine maxwell wjeffrey epstein and the prince. and speaking of the royal family, this week, this week, we found out that prince charles, the queen's slightly less-embarrassing son, has a very unusual way of funding his

charities. >> royal sources say tonight that prince charles will no longer personally handle large cash donations for his charities. >> the prince came under fire over reports he had been handed a cash donation totaling $3 million euros, some stuffed into a suitcase from a former qatari prime minister several years ago. >> clarence house says it followed the correct processes regarding those donations. royal officials say they dispute many of the details in that report. >> trevor: yeah, so in case you're a little bit lost tturns out, after an investigation, they found that prince charles had received suitcases full of cash from a qatari. and he was like, "this is for my charity." and now says, i realize this was wrong and i will no longer do it." i love how they say, "prince charles will no longer accept suitcases full of cash." like he just realized this was a shady thing to do. "all right, all right, no cash

in a suitcase. from now on it's just bags of cocaine, okay? okay, come on! i can't do anything! com! come on!" ( applause ) how you are going to act like this is the first time i don't care what it's for-- suitcase full of cash always shady. if your grandmother gives you $5 for your birthday, but she slips it to you in a suitcase, your grandmother's up to some shit. ( laughter ) because they say this was for prince charles' charity. my only question is what kind of charity is is it that needs to be paid in all cash? has it got its headquarters in a strip clug club? "this money will do a lot of help against poverty. in fact, here comes poverty right now. here you go, poverty. shake that girl, shake it, shake it, poverty!" ( applause ) and you know, this is one of those things that shows you the difference between normal people and really powerful people.

it doesn't matter if it's prince charles or american politicians, african presidents-- they just get to say, "we made an error in judgment and so we're going to use this money to spend some time in st. tropez thinking about what we've done. we're so sorry." but as a regular person, if the government finds you with a suitcase full of cash from anywhere, anywhere, no apologizing. probably going to end up with a front row seat to one of those r. kelly prison concerts. that's where you'll be. ( applause ) don't play around. okay, finally, let's move on. let's move on to a good story about people getting tons of money. now, many people may or may not know this, but there was a time in america where black people had their rights and property taken away from them. and it was a period known as "all of human history." ( laughter ) and that may seem as a shock for many of you to hear, especially if you go to school in florida, but it is true.

and, unfortunately, most black people who lost their land have had no way to find justice. but after nearly 100 years, one family in manhattan beach, california, is finally getting a little of what they deserve. >> a prime southern california beachfront property is being returned to its rightful and original owners. more than 100 years after officials actually took this land from a black family. l.a. county leaders voted to give it back to the descendants. the property was originally bought in 1912. the original owners turned it into a resort for black families since they were barred by many of the beaches. white neighbors targeted the property with racist threats and harassment. the city eventually seized the property in 1929, claiming eminent domain. now the county is going to lease the land back to the current heirs. >> the family bought the land for just over $1,200. now it's worth about $20 million. >> trevor: yeah. ( applause ) that's right. that is amazing. that is amazing.

long time coming. government is giving these people back their land. although, that's just proof that climate change is real. ( laughter ) yeah, all of a sudden, the government is like, "you know what, the oceanfront property can go back to the black people. take it, take ttake it." "why?" "don't worry, take it." for real, this is great news. it's great news for that family. great news for justice, and it's especially exciting because now there's a black beach. yeah, because i've seen white beachs. they have people surfing, playing volleyball, sunbathing, you know. but this is going to be a black beach. and you know what that's going to be like. it's going to have people surfing, playing volley bul what did you think i was going to say? you thought it was going to be different because it's black? you're racist. every one of you. people yelling at the movie screen? educate yourself! i like to lay races and traps just to see who comes out.

anyway, this is the thing, this is the thing people don't seem to realize with the story. the property is now worth $20 million. it was bought for $1,200 back in, like, the 1920s. that's what people don't get is how black americans have been held back. people always say... ( applause ) people always say "oh, come on, can't we move on in this country? that was a long time ago." yeah, exactly. and in that time, black americans could have built wealth. ( applause ) that's what the whole point is. you see this all over america, all over the united states, you see this. i mean, look at new york. people are living in brownstones that are worth $20 million because their great-grandparents bought it for, like, three chicken positive upon that's money now. you can use that as leverage. you can get student loans. you can buy other things. it shows how powerful generational wealth is. if it's taken away from you it can cripple your family forever.

it's like things that happened a generation ago can affect you today. your great-grandfather spent your entire family's savings and bought coca-cola stock in 1920, you're set for life. but if he bought r.c. cola back in the 1920s, that's probable why you're working two jobs. we talk so much about systemic problems, but generational wealth is a systemic solution. so people don't see-- ( applause ) you want this to happen. you want society-- you want society to give everyone a chance to build on generations of success so that eventually families of all races can come together to avoid paying estate tax together. ( laughter ) it's powerful. it's inspirational. before we go to a quick break, let's check in on the stock market with our finance expert, michael kosta, everybody! ( cheers and applause ) good to see you, michael. i know-- i know it's been keaz. what is happening in the market

today? >> you know i am crushing the market. i mean, i am-- seriously. even when i lose money, i make money, all right. so-- and i got a hot tip for you and got a hot if i were you, all right, so pay attention. look, this is the last day of second-quarter trading, and this is a bad qrkts okay. i haven't seen a quarter this bad since my dog swallowed a quarter. and i was at the boldyga. i was 25 cents short for a bag of chips so i had to wait for him to shit it out, okay. what can i say? i love cool ranch doritos. trevor, look, look, look-- thanks for clapping at that. look, this is a brutal chart. i mean this looks like the flight pattern of three pigeons on iowasca. nobody got hit harder than bed, bath & beyond. take a look at this chart. this looks like one of their deflating air mattresses they sell. it starts out pretty good, and

you sit on it the first time and shhhh. the problem with bed bath & beyond they didn't adjust their business model. they say they're a home goods store. nobody can afford to buy a home anywhere knm. am i right? ( applause ) now-- oh, that story about the black family getting their beach back. >> trevor: yeah, that's an amazing story. >> i love that story. i mean, that's as a white man i support that story. >> trevor: yeah? >> i'm serious. they were there first. they owned it, you know. now, it does bring up a question i have for the black community, okay. does that mean that you're going to give us back the n.b.a.? ( laughter ) or... or the n.f.l.? or... or "the daily show." ( cheers and applause ). i promised you a hot tip. the stock market's trashed. throw your money in a suitcase. i'm michael kosta. this is probably my last day.

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conversations around gay and trans rights need to stop until next year. so to keep the conversation going on our end, i want to introduce veronica ivy. she's a transgender rights activist who is the first out trans woman to win a track cycling world championship. please welcome veronica ivy. ( applause ) welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> trevor: so, i'm going to say from the top, because i've noticed this happens in every conversation, every time you bring up trans rights, or if you have a discussion, and you say "trans people tense up" i understand why. we live in a world where now there are people who are so trans-phobic that it makes it almost impossible for people who aren't to ask any questions, to have any conversations, to have any discourse that doesn't lump them in with trans-phobia. i'm really glad you're joining us on the show to talk about this because it feels like one of the biggest issues in the america, and, yet, no one can seem to talk about it. let's start with your journey. you have competed at some of the

highest levels in sports. as your hoodie says, "sport is a human right." that is what you believe in. talk me through-- ( applause ) talk me trough just a little bit of why you believe fighting for transgender athletes to compete in the categories they'd like to in sport is so important. >> so, it's a fundamental tenet of, like, the olympic movement, that sport is a human right. so in the olympic charter, in their four fundamental principles of olympism, they say participation sport is a human right, and they mean that at the competitive level. so this issue, people like to say that it's a complicated issue, and i don't actually think it is. i think it's very simple. it all boils down to do you actually think that trans women and intersex women are real women and are really female or not? and if you do, it's very simple. just stop policing who counts as a real woman, because this has had history of racism built into it over the years.

it's not an accident that the intersex athletes who get singled out are women of color from the global south. because who gets singled out for scrutiny is based on white woman's conceptions of femininity. that's being weaponized against trans people, too. so it's a fear of protecting the fragile, weak, cis white woman from the rest of us. ( applause ) >> trevor: there are many elements to what you said, which i appreciate. so let's try to break them down. one thing that confuses me personally is it seems like we have discussions about who should participate in which category and how. you know, on the face of it, it seems simple, as you say. you know, if somebody identifies as a woman, if they're transgender, they can compete against women who were born biologically, and if not, then not. but then there are many who

would argue, who are not trans-phobes, there are many born biologically women who say you have an unnatural advantage over me, and that makes the sport unfair. how do you respond to that? >> yeah, there are lots of ways you can respond to that. so the first is, the very language of you were born and i'm not biological somehow. i don't think i'm a cyborg, so the idea you're not a biological woman. well, i am a woman, that's a fact. i am female. so all my identity records, my racing license, my medical records all say "female." and i'm pretty sure i'm made of biological stuff. so i'm a biological female as well. so this question of do trans women have an advantage over cis women? we don't know. in fact, there's basically no published research on this question. however, there's good reason to think that there isn't. but i think it's irrelevant. because we allow all kinds of competitive advantages within women's sport.

so one example i love to talk about is the 2016 rio olympic women's high jump final. first place was over 6'3". 10th place was 5'5". so a 10.5-inch height difference between first and tenth at the olympics in high jump, and we call that fair. >> trevor: okay. >> so the range of body types within the female category is way, way bigger than anything that could be attributed to trans women. so if there's an advantage-- and i'm not saying that there is-- for trans women in women's sport, it's not an unfair advantage. but, also, we have been competing, trying to compete at the highest level for decades. we've been allowed to compete for decades. and no one has won an elite world championship. no one has won an olympic gold medal. this tokyo olympics was the first time a trans woman even qualified for the olympics. so this idea that trans women are suddenly going to take over women's sport is an irrational

fear of trans women, which is the dictionary definition of trans-phobia. >> trevor: it's interesting that you say that-- ( applause ) it's interesting that you say that, because i think if i were to push back, or, you know, even-- not even playing devil's advocate, there are a few things that could be argued. number one, you could argue that although the trans woman who competed in the olympics didn't dominate, she did beat a field of women who might have qualified for that position. secondly, when you talk about the height differences-- i agree with this completely-- but there a sport like, let's say boxing, for instance. in boxing, people fight across all weight categories. they don't just go men's boxing, women's boxing. they go men, heavyweight, super heavyweight. middle weight, bantam weight, fly weight, feather weight, guys who weigh nothing punch each other. i mean this genuinely. i thought it's interesting how in boxing they go we don't just want to see guys fighting. we want to see them fight in different weights. the usc does the same thing.

you're going to fight in your weight class. it seems crazy how can you break it down, and yet it's worked. i wonder if you ever considered-- and i'm not saying it's your job by the way-- >> it kind of literally is. >> trevor: oh, then great. you have ever considered a world where it becomes more specific then? do you think we're limiting ourselves when we say men's sports, and women's sports, because there are so many genders. >> i'm really going to dissatisfy you. >> trevor: you don't know what i'm looking for so you can't. >> i do. that is a very important question and a very difficult question. but it's a separate question. the question we're talking about is given how sport is currently structured, should we include trans women and intersex women in women's sport? and my answer to that is a clear yes. if you want to say should we revisit how we structure all of sport? i would say, yeah, we should do that. but if your only reason for doing that is because you just can't accept trans women or

women, that's a problem i've got with you. >> trevor: i understand. >> not with you personally. >> trevor: no, i hear what you're saying. i completely hear what you're saying. let me ask you this, then. you know, again, eliminating fringes. because everything on the internet becomes fringe. everything becomes a fight and an argument. if somebody comes to you in good faith-- and i mean genuinely good faith-- and they say to you, "you know, veronica, i was i feel you may or may not have an advantage, why can't we wait to know these things before you compete against me. >> that's not the way human rights work. the way human rights work is the default is inclusion, and the burden of proof is on the people seeking to exclude, not on the people seeking to include. ( applause ) so is i want to share something shocking with everybody. it wasn't until five years ago that we actually studied the relationship between natural

testosterone and performance. and we found that there's no relationship whatsoever between unaltered, natural endogenous testosterone and sport performance. about .5% of elite male track and field athletes at the world championship level are below the women's average of testosterone. competing with men with 80 to 100 times as much testosterone at no competitive disadvantage. and that fact has not been picked up by the broader media landscape. so when you say, "i'm a woman and i have this much testosterone," well, first, there's a huge range within women. >> trevor: definitely. >> into the male range. and there is no relationship between her having a competitive advantage over women with lower testosterone. so there are elite cis men with low testosterone, lower than a given woman, who's outcompeting her. so our bodies and biology is not this simple.

we thought it was, and it isn't. so we know that when you add testosterone to your natural levels, like doping, you tend to get bigger, stronger, faster. we also know that when you drop your testosterone levels, like trans women tend to do, you tend to get slower. but what your natural level is has no relationship to your sport performance. and we've been singling out that factor, testosterone, against the scientific evidence. >> trevor: it seems like we're always going to end up in a cul-de-sac. many people use it as a kijil to scare people-- the transgenders are coming for you. >> oh, we are. >> trevor: be careful what you say. ( applause ) but it feels like there are many discussions to be had. it feels like as you said the research and the science hasn't caught up. i appreciate you coming on the show and discussing this with us. thank you so much for joining me. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be right back with one of the stars of "obi-wan kenobi,"

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>> trevor: please, please. moses ingram, welcome to "the daily show." >> thank you. >> trevor: you're going through an amazing, amazing period. "the queen's gambit," now "obi-wan kenobi." you have one of the most interesting i.m.d.b. pages because you graduated in 2019. >> i did. >> trevor: then it's just been hit, hit, hit. ( applause ). >> it's crazy. >> trevor: what's the secret? >> i don't know. i don't think there is a secret. but there are still bad days. >> trevor: okay. >> like, early on, i had this really bad audition. and i tried to put myself into my trunk. do you ever have, like, bad days, where you're -- >> where you put yourself into your trunk? >> not days you put yourself into your trunk, but you need ton where everything is? you need a really small space. >> i have heard people talk about this. once i was out with a friend-- we were in a park for a very long time. and he said, kwe go back to the hotel? i would like to lie in a bath

tub." >> exactly. >> trevor: i said you want to take a bath? and he said no i just want to be in a small space. now i'll tell him i met someone else-- >> the trunk of my car. i tried. >> trevor: did you close it. >> it was a hatchback at the time. regular cars you can pull the latch, but i ended up looking stupid because you can't pull a hatchback. >> trevor: i like the idea that somebody was watching this happening and they call 911, and they go, "hi, i think someone is kidnapping themselves. i don't know what to do with this." but it has been-- it really has been an amazing journey. everyone who joins a "star wars" franchise says it's just-- it's a galaxy that is really wild. some of the most loyal fans, you know. you're part of this giant franchise. when you knew you were going to be a part of it, you must have been excited. but then i heard that you had never watched any of the "star wars" movies. >> no, i hadn't. >> trevor: how? >> i have now, i have now. >> trevor: but how? i just want to know how? i'm not judging you.

i just want to know how. >> i don't know. i guess i just didn't come from a family who did. i knew darth vader, and i knew obi-wan. >> trevor: do you have a favorite? >> probably revenge. >> trevor: this is good. this is good. i thought you were going to be like and i love that you enjoyed the franchise and already you're making an impact. we saw in the clip, and we see if you watch the show, your character's hair is almost part of her. it looks futuristic. black people are like, that's hair. wean it. it looks cool. it looks futuristic. you influenced that hair decision. originally the character was supposed to have straight hair, right? >> yeah. originally, there was, like a wig. but it was a real test too many times our director, deborah chow, to welcoming me into the process of making her who she would be. if the kid wanted to be me for

halloween, it would be weird to me if they had to wear a wig because i wore a wig when i have hair like them. >> trevor: right, right. so you got the hair done-- ( applause ) i love that. i like that. you are-- you may not have watched the movies, but i feel like you fight like you've watched the movies. we've got a clip here of you doing the light sabers. this is, like a... i won't tell you how it ends. >> wow. >> trevor: i can't tell you more than that. ( applause ) this is something i've always wanted to know from somebody in the "star wars" universe because they put the sound effects in afterwards. so when you're night fieting, do you make the sound? because i make the sound. i can't do it without-- i'll going woo-woo. does somebody do it for you guys? >> yeah, i make the sound. in rehearsal now, they have these really cool ones that make

the sound when you swing it. >> trevor: no way. >> they do. it's on amazon. >> trevor: i can get it on amazon. i can buy the light saber that makes the sound. >> yes. it's sensitive so you don't want to just like... and then, if you don't mean to. >> trevor: don't wooo if you don't mean to. how long do you have to train for those fight scenes? >> we trained for about four months, nine in total if you count while we were shooting. so it was a process. >> trevor: so if you got into a fight in the street, and there was, like, a light saberrish like object, you would kick some ass. >> i think i would do okaying. >> you are amazing. thank you so much for being on the show. congratulations. on "star wars," "the queen's gambit." all episodes of "obi-wan kenobi" are online. thank you very much. ( applause )

( cheers and applause ) are >> trevor: that's our show for tonight. thank you so much for tuning in. before we go, if you or someone you know needs help accessing abortion care, please, go to

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