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america, it's the show that invented news. this is "the daily show" with your host, jordan klepper! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> jordan: welcome to "the daily show!" i'm jordan klepper. it is my third night hosting the show and i'm finally starting to get some respect. this morning, the show's security guy called me "mr. klepper" instead of "slender man." so making progress. we've got a great show for you tonight. my guest tonight is michael shannon. [cheers and applause] so let's get into headlines! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ let's begin with fox news, which yesterday agreed to pay $787.5 million for saying to dominion voting machines helped joe biden steal the election.

although, now that more details of the settlement have come out, it turns out it is not all bad news for fox. >> the deal sparing fox for most would have been a very high-profile trial with some of the networks own stars likely testifying. >> dominion's legal team says there will be no on-air apologies or retractions on fox news. >> in a statement, the network is saying, "the settlement reflects fox's commitment to the "highest journalistic standards." >> jordan: that's right, high >> jordan: that's right, high journalistic standards like, like this. >> the green m&m got her boots back but is apparently not a lesbian may be? >> jordan: dominion is not the only injured party here. may be about our faith in democracy? there are people who do not trust elections for the rest of their lives. and i have to talk to those people!

[cheers and applause] and i will be arguing with them at trump rallies every four years for the rest of my life. you know what, i am not naive. i didn't expect this lawsuit to restore our country's faith in elections or even for me to get a little cashola, no, but i was at least hoping to get a couple of weeks of joy, sean hannity up there on the stand, sweating through his shirt like a beached manatee! it would have been nice to see. they are not even going to apologize on air. frankly, we deserve that. they are minimum. [cheers and applause] yes. you deserve that. and you know what? if the settlement won't give it to you, then i shall. >> there is much fallout this evening, and there will be four months. we are admitting that we lied to you for saying wrong things about the 2020 election. why is that? well, the truth is, donald trump lost the election and no, we

didn't tell you because we don't care what you think they are good now we have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars. we were wrong. we are completely irresponsible and we are sorry, america. i am sorry for repeating something it was untrue. i'm sorry. it's got to take a quick break and go cry in a closet while squeezing a stuffed animal. >> jordan: thank you, tucker. well said. [cheers and applause] let's move on. because luckily, there are people out there doing the hard work of real investigative journalism. people like bruce willingham. he runs the "mccurtain gazette-news" out of middle-of-nowhere oklahoma. bruce suspected that local officials were continuing to conduct county business after meetings had ended, so he secretly recorded them. when he played the tape back, he heard them talking about his son, who was also a reporter, and it was not flattering. >> the recordings captured the group talking about hiring hitmen to kill the reporters and where the bodies could be hidden. >> i've known two or three hitmen that were very quiet guys. >> yeah?

>> and would cut no [bleep] mercy. >> yeah. >> i know where two big deep holes are here if you ever need 'em. >> i've got an excavator. >> well, these are already pre-dug. [audience reacts] >> jordan: holy shit. you can threaten to kill journalists in a council meeting. keep that shit on twitter like a normal person. although, you can tell that some people were a little more integral to this plot than others. because one guy was like, "i know two hitmen," and another guy is like, "and i know two holes!" thanks for the contribution, larry, we'll let you know if we need to use your connection with the, uh, holes. and by the way, how strapped for time are people in this town that they have to pre-dig murder holes? are you so [bleep] busy that you can't do the hole after you do the murder? or maybe it's like carrying an umbrella. the day you don't have the hole is when you end up killing someone. now look, it would be bad enough

if plotting to throw local journalists into holes -- pre-dug or otherwise -- was all that the county sheriff and his friends were caught doing on these tapes. but guess what, they moved on to something else. >> on that same audio recording, the people talking shared their dismay that lynching black people is no longer acceptable. >> i'm gonna tell you something. if it was back in the day, when that when [bleep] would take a damn black guy and whoop their ass and throw him in the cell. i'd run for [bleep] sheriff. >> yeah, well, it's not like that no more. >> i know, take them down to the mud creek and hang them up with a damn rope. but you can't do that anymore. they got more rights than we got. [audience reacts] >> jordan: wow. someone tell these cops that they have the right to remain silent! and you can tell this thing was gonna go badly as soon as they said "back in the day." no sentence in the south ever goes well after the phrase "back in the day." it's never like, "back in the day, we lived in a rich, multi-cultural tapestry."

what's crazy is these reporters weren't even looking for racism and assassination plots. they were hoping to catch improper meeting procedures. it's like if you put a security camera up in the office to see which employee was stealing the yogurts, and you caught them doing a human sacrifice. you'd be like, "oh, my god, i've stumbled upon the most unholy rituals -- and oh, my god, they are eating my chobani!" for more on this story, we go live to oklahoma and roy wood jr. roy! [cheers and applause] >> what outcome a man >> jordan: this is an astounding scoop. shady sheriffs caught on a recording talking about murder, hit men, being racist. what a story. >> and thank you for sending me exactly to where it happened, jordan. here is the thing. if you put a recorder next to any sheriff for a few minutes, you're gonna hear some racism.

i don't trust any sheriff, andy griffith, woody from "toy story." and i damn sure don't trust any of those "pop patrol" dogs. >> jordan: are they all cops? >> i don't know, but i don't trust them. if i'm being honest, i'm kind of surprised that this recording wasn't more racist. >> jordan: really? they were saying that it's too bad they couldn't kill black people, like back in the day. >> yeah, back in the day. so we're canceling people for reminiscing now? a [bleep] can't take a walk down memory lane? that's all they did. either way, they know they can't do it anymore. that's why when they was on tape, they were talking about killing white people. that is progress. that is what martin luther king was talking about. >> jordan: no, no, i had a poster of his future might call the storm remove him them and they are just talking about killing white people. they are talking about killing white journalists. we need to protect these lion-hearted, ivory-skinned,

michigan-born reporters, whoever they may be! >> stop being a bitch. what are you so scared of, man? i'm not saying they should kill -- i'm not saying they should kill white people. i'm saying, we can agree that it's better than killing black people. >> jordan: roy, we cannot agree on that. >> oh, so you're saying it's better to kill black people? >> jordan: no, no,'s roy, that's not what i'm saying. i want them to kill us both equally, all right? these cops shouldn't be talking about killing anyone anyway. >> but can you blame them? look at this small ass building, man. they work in this building every day. if i had to spend my whole day in a space at small, ib races too. tiny ass, no ventilation. if you a white man and your life has led you to a job in this building, you got to blame somebody. might as well be us. it is like the third house from

the three little pigs. >> jordan: enough about the building. let's talk more about the audio recording. >> yeah, let's talk about the audio recording. let's talk about the audio recording and how they weren't able to see a tape recorder in this small ass building! the tape recorder probably took up half the room! you know they felt the heat from the batteries. they was probably in the room looking over, oh, i'm sorry, what did you say about lynching? i can't hear you over this tape recorder. >> jordan: what do you think should happen to these officers, roy? >> i think what should happen to the officers is very simple, jordan. they plotted a murder, which last i checked is a crime. so for the society, we cannot entrust these types of people with protecting the citizens of oklahoma. they have to be locked up, they have to be placed in solitary confinement, because then they would have more breathing room then they had in this damn tiny ass building! it is small, man! you can't even fart in there! >> jordan: roy wood jr., everyone. when we come back, don't go

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[cheers and applause] >> jordan: welcome back to "the daily show." florida gets a lot of attention because of how florida it is. but it is not the only state out there. that's why i traveled to michigan for my home state, to interview with governor, gretchen whitmer, about how she's making michigan the opposite of florida. last fall, michigan governor gretchen whitmer crews to reelection with a double-digit win against a trump-backed election denier. democrat control of both the house and senate has allowed her to make unfettered progress in infrastructure, abortion rights, and gun regulations. and now just passed 100 days into her second term, i wanted to hear what is next. so i went back home to michigan to lend my support to the vital local beer making economy. in michigan, we pregame with our friend and families before wolverine saturday and now apparently before interviews

with the governor. we will do a michigan test to see your sobriety. can you spell ypsilanti? >> gov. whitmer: y-p -- >> jordan: wow. [laughter] >> thank you. >> jordan: governor, is as an opposite aoc? a successful politician becomes a bartender? >> gov. whitmer: i have to have some skills after this is done. >> jordan: just want to remind you, the governor cannot accept any cash or tips but i can. whatever you want to leave, that would be great. remember, things cost three times as much a new york. so typical. >> gov. whitmer: you should move back to michigan, am i right? >> jordan: cheers, governor, thank you for meeting me. >> glad to be here. >> jordan: happy to be here. and a michigan health food store and michigan brewery. >> gov. whitmer: michigan brew. >> jordan: i am from kalamazoo. i am back in the brewery. [laughter] in michigan, that is statistically likely. either going to be a microbrewery or a parking lot.

so michigan goes trump in 2016 come abiding in 2020, it goes you overwhelmingly in 2022. what is happening in michigan? >> gov. whitmer: we are the most diverse swing state in the country. i think that is what makes it so great. it is also why you got to listen to people, got to talk to people, got to try to solve problems instead of just being anger. >> jordan: you are in michigan. the head of the g.o.p., internally elected, he went on sympathizer, election denier, calling democrats demonic. >> gov. whitmer: [laughs] the head of the g.o.p., to your point, said that both yoga are satanic. >> jordan: walk the line on satanic beyonce? >> gov. whitmer: i was going to make a seat at the table for someone who actually wants to solve problems regardless of what their political bent is what i don't have time for people who want to call beyonce satanic. >> jordan: there is a big hunting culture and michigan p.r. to go you're about to pass the big gun control measures

here. what do you say to the gun owners here who still really, really want to kill deer? >> gov. whitmer: you don't need any fancy guns, you can still hunt and enjoy. this will be a lawful gun owner. most gun owners believe that there should be background checks and safe storage. virginia has done this, it isn't that wild changes, it is just simply trying to make people safer. >> jordan: i like how you say that. if indiana can do it, we can do it. >> gov. whitmer: [laughs] right? >> jordan: abortion is usually a topic democrats run from, or at least make a centerpiece of their campaigns. you did. and you have taken bold action on that. is that a recipe for national elections? >> gov. whitmer: the midwest is a great place to see that you can win on abortion. people expect to have these rights. we had them for 50 years. we make our own decisions about our bodies and our future is. >> jordan: you repealed a 1931 abortion law. are there any other laws on the

books from back then that are worth looking back into? >> gov. whitmer: oh, yeah. we've got a lot of zombies. >> jordan: they are in there. >> gov. whitmer: zombie killer. >> jordan: death penalty for swing dancing, is that in there? springer michigan means potholes are everywhere in the governor has invested billions in infrastructure as part of her promise to fix the damn roads. or someone who blew a few tires here in my high school days, i knew it was my duty to help. >> gov. whitmer: i am with the men and women to help and so does jordan. >> jordan: okay, all right. >> gov. whitmer: all right, ready to do some work? got to put your shoes on. >> jordan: dress for the job you want and for me, i would like to be foreman or whatever the corporate person is in the office. >> let me pull out my watch. what time is at? >> time to fix the damn roads! >> you know what this is? >> jordan: this is -- >> this is what we call a work around here. see putting a little work, i know you got nice pants on, so

try not to get too much work on you. >> jordan: of this is actually an impediment, i can stand and watch the work. >> don't do that. >> jordan: fixing potholes, and most importantly, establish that my home state is definitely not florida. >> gov. whitmer: other states are waging wars against different parts of their population. i think a lot of politicians just want to pick fights or good headlines, whether it is picking a fight with mickey mouse, or moving backwards to the early 1900s, it is so much easier to show up and to listen to people on what really matters. so we are trying to make michigan a place where every business can thrive and every person has rights and freedoms to make their own decisions, and to live the life they want and be successful. >> jordan: you are progressive on guns come on abortion rights. it feels like the michigan hand is a welcoming hand. >> gov. whitmer: it is. it is freedom. >> jordan: michigan is a hand, what is florida? it looks like a --

>> gov. whitmer: trying not to go there. [laughter] >> jordan: just saying. it is one, that is the democracy. at times. >> gov. whitmer: your words. [laughter] >> jordan: fair. [cheers and applause] >> jordan: thank you. stay tuned, because when we come back, michael shannon will be joining me on the show. don't go away. [cheers and applause]

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[cheers and applause] >> jordan: welcome back to "the daily show." my guest tonight is an academy award nominated actor who can currently be seen in the showtime series, "waco: the aftermath." >> this thing was published

almost 20 years ago. so how is it suddenly an emergency? >> because i believe that these groups are using this book to help coordinate their efforts. these militias, they used to be separate. you know, little pockets here and there, we could deal with them. but now, waco has done something to them. it's -- it's united them. and they are starting to look more like a foreign terrorist network than anything we've ever seen in the u.s. before. >> jordan: please welcome michael shannon! ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> this is exciting. >> jordan: michael, welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> jordan: now the series, today is the 30th anniversary of the waco siege. >> mm. >> jordan: yeah. and i know this series, you did

a series that looked at the waco siege, and now this is revisiting it. it is the aftermath. what is it about waco that made you want to return to the story? >> well, yeah, i mean, a lot of people, when i told them i was making a sequel for waco, they said, didn't you do it all? that was the whole thing, right? and granted, that was the event, yes, but obviously, an event like that is like a meteor crashing into the earth, you know? it is going to have seismic consequences, and i really think it is worth exploring these incidents, they don't just exist in a vacuum. and everything is connected and everything leads to the next thing, and that is what was so worthwhile to explore. >> jordan: yeah, i mean, you look at waco, it is in many ways, if not the birth of the modern militia movement, definitely part of the introductory for it.

>> yeah. and just sowing this distrust in the government. >> jordan: now switching gears a little bit here, not only are you wonderful on the big screen, but also live in theater. i know not only do you do live theater. i know you also perform music. you cover historic bands, and their historic albums. i know you also do improv. is there -- what? [laughter] are you drawn to that type of thing? i feel like you are known more for your heavier, more dramatic performances. do you sort of have to indulge the other side? >> oh, gee. i don't know. i feel like i don't do enough. there is things, i should try other things and keep diversifying my portfolio as it were. like, the music stuff, people are always like, what happened to your band? what is going on with that? i am like, it just started to

feel -- i just started to feel like -- because who wants -- actor bands, i am embarrassed by them. and i'm an actor. so i don't want -- [applause] to participate in that. i remember -- i freaking love kevin bacon so much. >> jordan: [laughs] >> i remember seeing the bacon brothers on jay leno. i was like -- >> jordan: remember hearing joe scarborough talk about his band, god bless, go with god, joe. tell me there has been a moment when you have walked up very seriously and asked somebody to come to your improv show. >> i have never -- no. >> jordan: no? >> no. >> well, i am usually riding someone else's coat tails. as you know, i am performing often times with two of the legendary improvisers of all time. [cheers and applause] >> jordan: the greats of all time. >> so you can basically just

stand on stage next to them and drool on your shoes and it be like, bravo. nobody is watching you anyway. >> jordan: you are not truly an improviser until you beg someone to come to one of your shows. >> that's true. because you did that at the i.o. >> jordan: yeah. >> they would have 500 shows a day. one after the other. >> jordan: did you ever come and see any of my shows? >> no. >> jordan: not interested? i was at second city, which was literally two blocks from your theater. i'm sure you came to see some of that, too? >> it is a little corporate, isn't it? uh-oh. am i in trouble? >> jordan: it's not corporate, it's just owned by a venture capitalist now. so if that's corporate, maybe. it's corporate. i am glad you could come on here to help me burn down any bridges i have in chicago. [laughter and cheering] michael -- >> i'm everyone's favorite arsonist. >> jordan: on the anniversary of a siege, you came here and you took it to the ground. michael shannon, everyone. [cheers and applause]

new episodes "waco: the aftermath" streams fridays and airs sundays on showtime. we'll take a break and we'll be right back after this. [cheers and applause]