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[cheers and applause] >> jon: hey! hey, everybody! welcome! [cheers and applause] my name is jon stewart. listen, i hope you guys have a wonderful holiday. we've got a great show for you tonight. former deputy attorney general sally yates is going to be joining with us. and i have no idea -- [cheers and applause] but first, i truly hope you guys had a lovely thanksgiving, whether you are at home with family or on a road trip of a lifetime. huge news from the entire

holiday week. starting with, once again, another incredibly controversial trump administration nominee. kash patel has been nominated to head the fbi. seems like a perfectly reasonable guy. [boos] little georgie tonight. is it the tide? what are we doing? i mean, what would be to worry about here? >> kash patel, i don't say this lightly, is the most dangerous nominee that we've seen yet to our democracy. >> we're talking about somebody who's espoused qanon conspiracy theories. >> saying that the 2020 election was stolen. >> he has no other agenda but revenge. >> somebody who says he's going to throw judges in jail, he's going to throw bureaucrats in jail, he's going to throw reporters in jail. >> jon: i didn't hear anything about comedians, so...

look, none of this sounds good, and while many presidents, including democrats, have threatened to jail reporters, it's true -- they didn't do all of them! is there any reason why he should be confirmed? >> my name is kash patel and i have written the first ever children's russia gate book. it's called "the plot against the king." [audience reacts] >> jon: i did not meet with russia in a box. i did not meet with russia on fox! i did not meet them in trump tower! i did not have a golden shower. [cheers and applause] this nominee is going to be very controversial. >> republicans and democrats should be examining how damaging this nomination could be to american democracy. >> what's at risk is the overall rule of law in the united states.

>> this is a really dangerous moment for our government and for the rule of law in america. >> jon: faith in the rule of law is all that separates us from the otters! penguins! the apes! really, the entire cast of "madagascar." it's the only thing! faith in the rule of law. finally, democrats have a moral perch from which they can judge without shame, hypocrisy, or nuance. >> breaking news. president biden has issued a pardon for his son, hunter biden. >> jon: mother [bleep]! we were so close! but you know what, good, fine, it's his right! he's an 82-year-old man. he doesn't want to spend the rest of his life visiting his

son in prison. republicans get away with this shit all the time! i'm sure the pardon is a narrowly-written, precisely-drawn farewell note of compassion for a loved one. >> the pardon sweeping, covering offenses that hunter biden "has committed or may have committed or taken part in over the past 11 years." [audience reacts] >> jon: 11 years is a very specific and not rounded amount of time. "so hunter, i'll give you a pardon for a few years, five? 10?" "it needs to be 11. and if you would be so kind, make sure this upcoming new year's eve is also covered.

shit's going to get crazy." i didn't know pardons could cover crimes you may have committed. i'm surprised biden didn't include the phrase "on earth one or any of the earths in the multiverse." now some would say that's what any loving father would do for their troubled son or daughter, should they have the power. but on fox news, it was this love, in fact, that may have caused the problem in the first place. >> my dad always told me, "ainsley, if you get arrested, don't call me. i'm not your first phone call. i'm leaving you in there." >> jon: "good night, sweetie!" by the way, your dad always told you that? were you a degenerate or was your dad deniro? "now listen to me, you get pinched?

i'm not your first phone call. i don't know you. there's ten grand and a gun in the floorboards. good luck, kid." [laughter and applause] and, by the way, not just ainsley, the rest of the fox cinematic universe was no happier. >> not only the worst president in u.s. history, but also the most corrupt. >> this entire administration has been nothing but a sham. >> he and his family are so full of slime that nickelodeon is going to sue for trademark infringement. >> [bleep] you, joe biden! >> jon: "[bleep] you, joe biden?" megyn kelly, who do you think you are? me? what am i supposed to say now? [bleep] you is my line! you have stolen my [bleep] line! at long last! have you no decency?

[bleep] me. of course, no one was more outraged than america's judicial compass, donald seneca trump. >> president-elect trump weighing in as well. he says, "does the pardon given by joe to hunter include the january 6th hostages who have now been imprisoned for years? such an abuse and miscarriage of justice." >> jon: "oh, you pardoned your son? well, what about the people who tried to help me overthrow the government?" it's kind of a leap there. it's like saying, "oh, you're going to let the kids stay up to watch "snl," but you're not even going to try to help me burn the neighbor's house down?" so obviously, republicans are going to criticize. but biden did make this line of attack particularly available, seeing as how he spent so long saying he wouldn't do it. because of how much he respects the system. >> i'm not going to do anything. i said i would abide by the jury decision. i will do that and i will not pardon him. >> will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? >> yes.

>> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. [laughter] >> jon: "now watch this dive!" [laughter and applause] here's the thing. i don't know if you've ever found yourself in this situation. if you ever find yourself in a situation where you are being questioned about pardoning your son, do not do it at the swim up bar of a club med. and also, not for nothing combined with an old guy? i mean, biden squints indoors! you don't face the guy in the sun and try to get an honest answer, he's immediately going to look untrustworthy. "you going to give him a pardon?" but you know what,

hypocrisy isn't illegal, nor is it particularly unusual in politics. it ain't like he's ever going to run again. so why not take care of your kid, even if you said you weren't going to? i respect it. i don't have a problem with it. the problem is, the rest of the democrats made biden's pledge to not pardon hunter the foundation of their defense of america, this grand experiment. >> one political party remains committed to the rule of law and the other doesn't. it's that simple. >> hunter biden is not above the law. no one is above the law. democrats stand for the rule of law. >> we accept the outcome because that's how the rule of law works. >> because the justice system that convicted his only surviving son is the same justice system he has vowed to protect. if that does not tell you who joe biden is, i don't really know what does. >> jon: i think i know what does! and now look at the dance democrats have to do. >> be honest, the only reason

why they went after hunter the way they did -- and i've talked to many federal prosecutors about this -- is because he's the president's son. >> people have to remember, the president has lost two children already and he does not need to lose another one to more political witch hunts. >> the crowing from republicans, but we are talking donald trump is a convicted felon who literally pardoned his daughter's father-in-law and just made him ambassador to france. >> so for anyone that wants to clutch their pearls now because he decided that he was going to pardon his son, i would say, take a look in the mirror. >> jon: ma'am, we will take a look in that mirror but we are taking off. so if you could just put this shit on airplane mode, and let us get home for the holidays! [applause] yes!

yes, yes, yes to everything that you guys were saying! if you hadn't made hunter biden not receiving a pardon the mason-dixon line of morality between democrats and republicans. there's a big gap between "the law is the only thing that separates us from the animals" and "the monkey threw shit at me first! i had no choice!" this is what biden's decision has done. look at how confident and eloquent our democratic representatives were, back when they thought they had the moral high ground on this issue. >> i've not heard a single democrat anywhere in the country cry fraud, cry fixed, cry rigged, cry kangaroo court. you don't hear a single peep out of any democrats saying that. why? we believe in the rule of law. >> jon: and now look at what verbally dexterous attorneys we have on capitol hill, has been reduced to. >> do you think president biden should pardon hunter biden? >> so there are lots of claims of political prosecution and political persecution. >> and was hunter politically

prosecuted? >> well, i mean, obviously, that's a judicial point. and you have got to look at what the evidence is, and i don't know enough -- >> yes, so should the president pardon him? >> i mean, again, that is a unilateral executive power that -- >> and should he use it? >> well, the power exists for the president to show mercy for people. >> jon: "i mean, we have an executive and a judicial and a legislative-- smoke bomb!" [cheers and applause] thank you. wow. the first time i have crouched since thanksgiving and... eh, oh, that did not go well. but then why this weekend? normally you drop a controversial pardon like the

way you buy porn at a gas station, in a flurry of other distracting purchases and other pardons. "give me breath mints, wd-40, squeegee, one of those anal magazines, some corn nuts, pardon for my son." "the big dicks like chicks" pamphlet. so why did you do it now? >> as nbc news first reported, the president did decide to reverse course over the holiday weekend at his family's annual thanksgiving getaway in nantucket. >> jon: thanksgiving! i knew it! perhaps i can explain the way this pardon went down in my new one man show, "can you get hunter to stop looking at me like that?" i take you there now.

[vocalizing] i'll be playing the role of hunter. [laughter and applause] "how are you, father? are you well, father? i am a bit down! you know, last thanksgiving with the family for a while. if only someone could change that. this turkey is delicious! obviously, not one of the ones that was pardoned. [applause] [cheers and applause]

i made you watch that because people think i can't act. anyway. [bleep]. still on camera. look, man, the democrats made this case are an example of why americans should believe in the system! and it is hard. democrats have the tougher road of defending our institutions and systems as being flawed but still valuable. republicans just run on blowing this shit up. but at every turn, democrats keep getting caught creating a purity test they can't seem to pass themselves. >> when you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid out on the floor at mar-a-lago, what did you think to yourself? >> how that could possibly happen? how one -- anyone could be that irresponsible.

>> jon: irresponsible. the careful stewardship of our nation's most classified documents is foundational to the institutions! it's why we're -- what's that? oh, really? in his [bleep] garage? next to his car? parse away. >> by the way, my corvette's in a locked garage, okay? so it's not like they're sitting out in the street. >> jon: it's totally different! enemies of our nation would have to get on their tippy toes to peer into the garage to see them, using some sort of image capture technology, which i am sure doesn't exist. spies would also be distracted by my sick as [bleep] corvette [laughter and applause] and let's not forget, in contrast to donald trump, the moral stand biden took on saudi arabia after they murdered one of our journalists. >> we were going to, in fact, make them pay the price and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are. >> jon: yeah, boom,

khashoggi will not be forgotten! candidate biden says "this moral line must be drawn." and president biden? >> tonight, with one fist bump, a pariah no more. >> jon: it's just a fist bump! it's just a fist bump! come on. trump probably would've done the whole [explosion] but that's the moral line i won't cross. i will just do... but he would have done boom, w wee. and, of course, there's the border. >> we're going to restore our moral standing in the world and our historic role as a safe haven for refugees and asylum seekers. my lord, we've never -- we've never made aslyum seekers seek asylum outside of the united states of america. >> jon: we've never done it! it's immoral what trump is doing! until, of course, my poll numbers start to go down... >> today, i'm announcing actions to bar migrants who cross our southern border unlawfully from receiving asylum. >> jon: rules, loopholes, and norms!

the distance between the systems democrats say they are revering, and the one that they're using when they need to is why people think it's rigged. use the rules, use the loopholes, [bleep] the norms, but also use it to help the people! not just those people related to you! all of us are somebody's son or somebody's daughter! and we all need that break too. because if there's one thing that i've learned, especially this weekend, it's that ♪ everyone deserves a chance to fly ♪ [cheers and applause] when we come back, we'll talk more about it with sally yates. so don't go away. [cheers and applause]

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[cheers and applause] >> jon: welcome back to "the daily show." my guest tonight served in the department of justice for nearly 30 years, including two years as deputy attorney general and acting attorney general at the beginning of the first trump administration. please welcome to the program sally yates! hello! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] how are you? >> i'm good, thanks, how about you? >> jon: i am doing great. i wanted to add, you know, when we ask you to come on the show, it was prior to the pardon kerfuffle, and the new head of the fbi, and the new ag, and i

want to thank you -- >> yeah, i have noticed that. >> jon: thank you for not calling up and saying, "i have covid." [laughter] how hard is it -- you have run dod for how long? >> 27 years. >> jon: 27 years. >> but who is counting? >> jon: none of us. what is your impression now -- tell us a little bit about what is so crucial about the d.o.j.? what do they do? i think we don't necessarily have an understanding of the nuts and bolts. >> yeah. well, thanks for asking that because i know a lot of people get their vision of the department of justice on the high-profile things that go on in the news. >> jon: right. >> but i can tell you that what you have at d.o.j. is a group of people -- republicans and democrats -- who are there, who are absolutely devoted to justice. and i know that sounds incredibly corny. but these are people who want to be public servants. they want to make this country

safer for all americans. and so they prosecute child pornography cases, human trafficking, and drug cartels, and gangs and -- >> jon: this is the majority of -- >> absolutely. this is the majority of the work across the board that is done in a nonpartisan way, and you know, i had the privilege of working with these folks were so many years, and saw them truly struggle over cases. not just whether they could get the indictment or get the conviction. but in trying to do the thing that was fair and just because that is -- and i know this sounds corny -- that is the sole responsibility of the department of justice, is to seek justice. now not everybody is going to agree with you when you take action, about whether those things are just or fair. but that is the responsibility. >> jon: did you see in your time when you were there, did you see the mission begin to change? did you see it become

politicized? while we were there? when you first started, wasn't much more nuts and bolts? because i guess that is not the part of the justice department that i think about. i also think about after 9/11, you know, the department of justice to justify torture. or is there another hallway, where there is another department of justice, where you guys are working on human trafficking, but they are they are trying to justify other may be less, what you would say, high-minded things. >> yeah. look, the vast majority of folks of the department of justice are what they call career employers. that doesn't mean that they are necessarily -- >> jon: i know what this is! >> i'm not even entirely sure what the deep state is. >> jon: it is a state that is very deep! don't play dumb with us! >> [laughs] but that is -- there literally are may be 100 -- if you count u.s. attorneys, there are a few

hundred political appointees. out of 113,000 employees at the department of justice. >> jon: there is 113,000 -- >> understand, this includes not just the folks who are prosecutors and lawyers there. it includes investigative agencies like the fbi and the atf anti-dea and the marshall service. it includes all of the bureau of prisons. it is a lot of people. so it is very, very small number of people who change with administrations and change depending on who the party is. so the hallways there are filled with people who don't even know -- i mean, i worked for over 20 years in the atlanta u.s. attorney's office -- i had no idea whether the folks next to me were democrats or republicans. didn't know when i prosecuted a public corruption cases -- >> jon: you are down in atlanta and you didn't know if they were republicans or democrats? >> so if atlanta is a blue dot inside an otherwise red state, but there were plenty of republicans in our office.

>> jon: oh, i am sure. >> no, there were plenty of democrats as well. >> jon: i believe that. >> are you going to believe anything i say? >> jon: i do. you just do this, you walk in and you go, "who wants chick-fil-a?" [laughter] and you know. [applause] that is such an interesting, because, look, it is very difficult for me to trust the status quo of all these alphabet agencies. fbi, atf, the other ones you mention, because it so often, they are -- and maybe it is not the bulk of what they do -- but spying on americans after 9/11 through the department of homeland security. and i know they are not all related. so we are in this sort of uncomfortable position of saying the rule of law is important, but wouldn't you agree, it is often bent against -- it is a

rigged system in a lot of ways. just maybe not rigged against politicians, but rigged against the poor, or people that don't have the means. you know, when you look at crack cocaine being sentenced at a different level than powder cocaine, because of the populations that were more associated with it. how do we have faith? we are being asked to save the system that my whole life, i have sort of viewed very suspiciously. you know, from who were on up, you know, you can't go through learning about martin luther king without thinking to yourself, "damn, we weaponize the government against citizens." so what are the safeguards against god? what is the checks and balances? you clearly believe in it deeply? >> i do. i think some suspicion is not a bad thing, because it is really important that we hold these institutions, and the people that work there, who are in

charge of them accountable. but you know, you are right. our nation's core promise, our fundamental promise that we made to all the people is a promise of equal justice. that is a promise our country has never completely fulfilled. there have long banned racial disparities in our criminal justice system. there are economic disparities. i would agree with you that there is, as much as you try to guard against that, there is a disparity between those defendants who are wealthy and those who are not. but it has always been the goal, it has always been the thing to which we aspire, to be able to make good on that promise of equal justice. and that is what i fear is being lost, i recognize that, look, i am not here as a democrat or a republican. i am a democrat but i am not here as one -- >> jon: i could tell when we had that cater to your dressing

room. i know. >> [laughs] now i have totally lost my train of thought. [laughter] it was going to be so good! >> jon: the importance. you are right there. bring it to me! >> what was the question? i am sorry. >> jon: damn it! i am so sorry for derailing that. i think what you were getting to is, it is a system that has flaws but that every day, we have worked towards, boy, you hate his head, a more perfect union. but that you have worked towards making it more just. >> absolutely. and that has been the goal. >> jon: so why is this a threat, when you just said, the threat now? >> the threat now -- this is not because he is a republican -- donald trump poses a unique threat to our criminal justice system, and to that concept of equal justice.

he has made really clear, over and over again, that he views the department of justice as his own personal goon squad, for lack of a better term here, to go after the people that he wants to retaliate against, whether those are folks who have crossed him politically, whether it is people who just disagreed with him, whether it is people who wouldn't carry his water. he wants to use the power of the state to literally criminally investigate them and try to send them to prison. and he has been really clear about that. >> jon: as devil's advocate -- >> i figured this was coming. >> jon: wouldn't he say, that is what was done to him? that, because he was a candidate for president, that, in his mind -- and i am not suggesting i am in his mind -- but that is

what he believes the russia investigation, that is what he believes all of these cases, whether we believe them to be meritorious or not, what he would suggest is, and unprecedented use of the department of justice is how they have been operating against him, and so that firewall is already been breached. in his mind. >> well, first of all, if he thinks that -- and i'm not 100% convinced he genuinely thinks that -- but even if he does, that doesn't make it true. are you telling me that when someone fomented in insurrection as he did, that d.o.j. to just look away and not investigated? >> jon: by the way, my believe was always, why didn't we look into that -- i wanted more alacrity on that before he was a candidate again. why were those wheels so difficult to start to turn? >> yeah, look, people have

different approaches and i think that, my understanding is, they were looking at it as a bottom up approach of the people who were out there, actually storming the capitol -- i think in retrospect, you could look at that and say, those folks probably don't have evidence in terms of direct conversations with donald trump. so maybe that wasn't the way to go. that is hindsight and that is me from outside saying that. but look, i don't think the department should be the least bit apologetic about pursuing back. and i agree, if anything, we all wish it had been done sooner. >> jon: and the documents case in the same way. because it is -- the difficulty was in the documents case, they go down there, they make a big deal, they read the whole place, then a week later, they are like, oh, yeah, biden has a bunch of boxes in his garage and you are like, what is going on? >> not ideal. i will grant you that. [laughter] >> jon: -- >> it is a false equivalency,

jon. i can tell you don't agree with me. look -- >> jon: how was it a false equivalence in that, yeah, he cooperated less, but if the idea is, you know, there is a lot of things that go into classified documents. we have a terrible system of classification. we over classify everything. we redact everything. you know, very clearly, they took a much harder line approached and they have probably with any other president. look, i am no fan of this guy. i think he absolutely runs roughshod over what would be democratic checks and balances. but as an outside observer, it is hard not to see cracks in the case, that there weren't a lot of -- we can call it a false equivalence or not -- but it is close enough that it would give you pause. >> well, i will say, there was a special counsel that was appointed to investigate biden into biden administration.

i seriously doubt president biden was too thrilled about that. >> jon: is a special counsel part of the whole thing? i remember whitewater. when we set up -- i think may be part of the point is, when you have a system of justice that is 130,000 employees and they are all dedicated, talented lawyers who believe in their case, isn't there always the danger that turning their spotlight on anything will reveal enough faults and crevices and cracks to find justification for legal payroll? >> i think that it is a risk of a special counsel. you should never investigate a person. that is a problem. you should never turn the spotlight on a person and say, can i find a crime? because there is probably a pretty good chance you could find something out there on just about everybody. >> jon: why are you staring at me when you say that? >> [laughs] well, i was with d.o.j. for 27 years, and just saying --

>> jon: all i am saying is, recreational shrooms, i think are illegal. once they put them in chocolate, i think that makes them candy. i think! but that is my point. there is a lot of fear about the weaponization of this department. and i think possibly justified. i guess, we are not going to know. there are certainly enough breadcrumbs there, there are certainly exquisitely saying it. but i do look at our legal system as overreach has been a part of its history, since, look them i hate to keep going back to hoover, but it is difficult when you have a large organization like that. is it not? what are the checks on that? >> that is where i wish so much that people could, for example, sit in a conference room in the atlanta u.s. attorney's office when we would have meetings, we called them indictment review committee meetings -- sounds really exciting, doesn't it? >> jon: was their cake? >> [laughs] only at the end. >> jon: yes they are.

>> people would come in and present the case and often times it is not a question of whether the evidence is there or not, the question is, even with the evidence is there, is this the kind of think that it's really worthy of federal prosecution? is this the kind of conduct that we should be using our resources and this person should be a every single transgression that occurs. you are supposed to use the prosecutorial discretion to make sure you are being fair and that you are using the laws of the most effective way. and people really agonize about that. >> jon: that seems so subjective in many ways. >> sure, it is. >> jon: it's not where the evidence leads you. the evidence leads you here but is that worthy of our time and effort? is that -- >> that is a portion of it. it is worthy of our time and effort. and as this conduct significant enough and bad enough to where this person should be prosecuted federally? for example, drug cases. >> jon: sure. >> most -- >> jon: makes up the majority.

>> most street-level drug cases could be prosecuted federally. does that make any sense? no. we should not be using federal resources on that. a person who is involved in a street-level deal really doesn't need to have a federal conviction. so if that is prosecuted at all as opposed to diversion are some of the program, that should be handled by the state. technically, is it a federal crime? yes. what is that a good use of resources and is not necessarily -- >> jon: that goes each time. why are there so many people in federal prisons on drug charges? >> well, part of that is left over from the past. past. >> jon: [laughs] >> seriously, people during the crack at them epidemic and sentences that were way, way, way too long were being prosecu, and they are still in federal prison. president obama -- >> jon: they are still there. >> some of them. president obama had a clemency initiative to try to adjust those and released scores of people who were just in prison for way too long, longer than public safety demanded.

and the guidelines have been changed now. but there is some leftovers that are there. but also, d.o.j. prosecutes major drug cartels that are operating here in the united states. that is the major distinction. >> jon: so you are going for the big, not the little. now they used to do the other, but they have flipped. >> absolutely. >> jon: what about financial crimes? >> to me, that is where the department really should be focusing a lot of its resources. >> jon: is that where they are focusing a lot of the resources? >> yeah, it is the only game in town. local d.a.s can't do that and these are some of the most pernicious crimes, where they are really preying on people's hard-earned savings. >> jon: payday loans? >> the full range of white-collar stuff. i used to be a white-collar prosecutor. >> jon: were you? >> gap. >> jon: after 2008, why didn't anybody go to jail for that come after the financial crisis? >> that is a tough one.

[laughs] it is. >> jon: okay. >> yeah. [laughs] >> jon: so the case for the doj. "two steps forward, one step back." in your mind, though, the reforms that need to be done there, who would do those reforms? who would reform the department of justice? is it the nation's attorney general? is that who would make these changes and who should go? who is in charge? >> while some of the attorney general is in charge, but when you say would make these reforms, what reforms are you talking about? >> jon: letting people out that had crack cocaine versus powder cocaine? putting more resources in front of the banks that launder money for terrorists and yet only pay a fine, which has happened numerous times over these past couple of decades. all of the things that we look at as dodging of accountability for establishment, status quo things, and seeing poor people being sent to jail at a much

higher rate. who comes in there and says, we have to stop this? >> yeah, that is done by the leadership at the department of justice, which includes the attorney general and the deputy attorney general and the heads of the different divisions, like the criminal division, antitrust -- >> jon: they will decide what to focus on. >> and each individual u.s. attorney, there are 93 u.s. attorneys around the country. they are in charge, broken up geographically, and they are in charge of the prosecution at the civil defense side of it as well, the prosecution of all federal crimes in that particular district. within a district, one of the things that u.s. attorneys are responsible for doing is looking at that district and saying, what are the most serious crime threats here? mine was the northern district of georgia. what is the most serious thing here? where should we be using our limited resources and what should be handled by the state? districts are different. my district will be different than iowa or someplace like that. but that is done at the

leadership and that is to be carried out by all of the career people who are within the department. >> jon: now if they get an attorney general who comes in and says, i want you to prosecute journalists and democrats and short jews -- purely hypothetical? >> what if it is a 3 for. >> jon: go for all three. think of what the recourse? do they say, we keep hearing about, they portend a mass resignation. for donald trump, that is what he wants. he would want people who wouldn't do that to say bye-bye and he would fill them with other people. >> well, look, first of all, we know there already are career people at the department of justice who are looking for jobs because they are worried about being in a justice department that is weaponized in this way, and not for legitimate reasons. and if you were told to do something like that, you have a

few options. you can say no. maybe they find another prosecutor to do it. you can resign, which is another option. you can also raise it -- if you think something is really out-of-bounds, you can raise it to what they call the inspector general within the department of justice, if you are being told -- >> jon: who is that? >> michael horowitz is his name. >> jon: that is a rhetorical question. >> [laughs] >> jon: what is the role of the inspector general? think of the inspector general looks at fraud and abuse and misconduct within the department of justice. >> jon: i see. like an inspector. general. >> yes, hence the name. yeah. >> jon: is it hard talking to people like me? >> [laughs] at times. >> jon: and so in your mind, are there enough fail-safes, if this is the worst-case scenario is going to come to pass, do you believe that system is robust enough to withstand that type of

thing? >> i think it has to be. we don't have a choice. it is going to have to be robust enough. and look, i am hopeful that even though the president has identified forgo people who were members of his criminal defense team or impeachment team to be in the top four slots at the department. that is not a great sign, coming from a guy -- >> jon: don't they normally pick lawyers they worked with are people that they know? >> they pick people they know but not usually their criminal defense lawyers. we have not had that many presidents who needed criminal defense lawyers. there is nothing wrong with a president wanting someone in whom they have confidence, someone they trust they are the problem is here that donald trump complained about jeff sessions. where is my roy cohn? it is sort of infamous the famous mob lawyer. he expected the attorney general to act as his personal henchmen. that is what he's looking for. when he puts the folks in there that were his criminal i am

hopeful, still, i want to give a little bit -- >> jon: please. >> that they, despite how they might be getting there, that they are going to take their oath seriously and recognize they do not represent donald trump. they represent the people of the united states. >> jon: and the constitution. >> and the constitution. >> jon: your mouth to god's ears. [cheers and applause] former deputy u.s. attorney general sally yates. we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪

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[cheers and applause] >> jon: that's our show for tonight! but before we go, let's check in with your host for the rest of the week, mr. ronny chieng! ronny, what's happening! nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> jon: tell the people what you got lined up for the rest of the week, ronny. >> i'll tell you what i've got lined up, jon: crack cocaine. i'm going to smoke it, right here, live on tv. so tune in tomorrow, everybody, i'll be smoking crack. [cheers and applause] >> jon: i'm just going to assume that a some sort of satirical statement about hunter biden's pardon. >> who's hunter biden? >> jon: ronny chieng all this week. now here it is, your "moment of zen."

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welcome to tumbling class. moms, please enjoy, while dads grumble about how much the class costs. 240 bucks for a mat and a room. now let's all gather 'round because stewie is gonna do a somersault. [grunting] [groans] nailed it. well, that's basically fine, and i don't honestly care, so, unless there's an unexpected appearance from a rival baby... perhaps i could take a shot. -[gasps] -it's doug! that's stewie's rival. what are you doing here, doug? eh, thought i'd give this tumbling thing a try. so, what do i do, just fall down like literally anyone affected by gravity? um, there's a bit more to it than that. one can't just show up and hope to execute, say, a perfect somers... oh, oh, he's very good! [cheering] hmm. something like that? -wow! -now that's tumbling! boys can be good at this till nine, then the whispers start.

calm down, it wasn't that great. stewie, give doug your shirt and overalls. he's my son now. [announcer] we now return to christopher nolan's tenet. i'm already completely lost. dad, can i ask you something about girls? are you wearing a wire? there's a girl in my class i have a crush on, and i can't get her to notice me. ah, now i understand. lucky for you, there's a bunch of old movies on this very subject. here. sixteen candles. can't buy me love, say anything... all on very inconvenient vhs. vhs? what do those letters stand for? that information has been lost to history. anyway, chris, just watch these movies and do what the 28-year-old teenagers do. i guess i could try. after all, they tried to do superman in boston once. i've noticed that you're never around when superman's here. are... are you superman? what is ya, wacked in the head? i'm clahk. plain ol' clahk. okay, back to our boston newspaper job.

-[phone rings] -spotlight. what?! [gasping, murmuring] show-and-tell time. finally a chance to reclaim my honor after that whole tumbling fiasco. next up for show-and-tell, stewie. hello, everyone. this is a weird seashell that kind of looks like female genitalia that my dad likes. lois, where's my she shell? oh, stewie took it to show-and-tell. well, i hope no one puts it to their ear. incredible, right? [yawns] thank you, stewie. and, so you know, many middle-aged women have seashells in their powder rooms. okay, next up is doug. hello, gang, and have i got... [chuckles] some show-and-tell for you. this is a ticket stub from a pg movie that i got to see in the theater... alone. [kids] wow! also, i've been on a disney cruise.

hey, who's this in the picture with moana? [chuckles] oh, me? huh. [student 1] no way! [student 2] moana is famously agoraphobic. yes, but she's managing it day by day, thanks to cbd oil. this cruise was a big step for her. okay, i think we can all agree that these are very lame show-and-tell... and finally, a piece of candy from the london airport. [gasps] aw, a lion bar? i'm sorry, did i say "a piece of candy"? more like british candy for the whole class! drumstick squashies and rose-flavored wine gums -for everyone! -[cheering] hello, show-and-tell national championships in dekalb, illinois, i have a nominee for you. dammit. i'm sick of being one-upped by doug. hurts. it hurts worse than a trip to the barber shop. [screaming] this is what babies think happens at haircuts! [knocking] hello, mr. and mrs. burbeck. do you have a daughter named jennifer,

who is currently smeared across highway 9? joe, it's us. oh, sorry. that's my next stop. peter, your son was lurking outside a classmate's window with this boom box, playing peter gabriel. he's being charged with felony stalking. i also tried to use science to make a sex slave from a magazine photo. oh, this is horrifying! -actually, it's the '80s. -what? well, it appears that someone has exposed your son to the very problematic teen films of the 1980s. peter, tell me it wasn't you. honestly, lois, i have no idea. my brain can't even think thoughts no more -'cause of the internet. -ugh, that's it. from now on, you are an outside peter. go on! get! [kissing noises] outside! [grunts] go to your peter house. go to your peter house! [thunder crashes] [jazz music plays]

god, look at doug over there, throwing a frisbee with the kindergarteners and a shorter-than-average first-grader. -thinks he's so cool. -yup. there must be some way i can finally one-up that guy, and you're clearly looking for cat turds, right now. yup. y... huh? wait, uh, wait. -[sniffs] aw, gum. -help me out, man. i need something to win back everyone's attention. wait, i know! what if i flip my eyelids inside out? show everyone what a freak i am. huh? i could carve this out. right? this could be my thing. i don't think so, stewie. all right, well, what if i just, like, do doug's mom? uh... y... i-i mean, yeah, yeah, that... i mean, that would... that would pretty much do it. awesome! how do you dial a phone or have sex? or stand up without using your hands? let me tell you something, brian... -[wind whistles] -[dramatic music plays] oh, no! you said it, relatively-short-first-grader.

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