a smidge? y'know, there's really no need to weigh packages under 70 pounds. with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. cool. you know this scale is off by a good 7, 8 pounds. maybe five. priority mail flat rate boxes only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. >> johnny: welcome back. verizon fios, over 180 hd channel. this is fios and this is big. 4-3, tampa bay knocks off the nats. the nats real sorry had trouble putting together two consecutive wins since going back to may 7th, 89th and 9th when they beat the dodgers, went to arizona, took two from the diamondbacks, have not been able to win two ball games in a row since that time. >> ray: there's basically four

facets in a game, pitching, defense, hitting and base running. we can't get all four of them together. >> johnny: how about we start with the pitching tomorrow. this guy, jordan zimmerman. >> ray: our best young prospect, 52 innings, 54 strikeouts. his earned run average is up there but he has only walked just 14 guys and in his last 7 start, he has only walked i go guys. i just love to watch him pitch, always excited toturn on that television. sweeping breaking ball and 7 unearned. he gets all the way back there. he has been knocked out of four games so far this year. only averaging a little over 5 innings and, johnny, in his last five starts, he has given up 10 homeruns. >> johnny: incidentally, first

pitch tomorrow, 6:05 down in tampa. we will join the broadcast telecast in project at 7:02. manny acta was asked about the pop-up which resultd in kapler getting one more swing. here is the national skipper talking about that incident. >> i'm absolutely 100% sure that nick wanted to catch the ball. i mean, he just dropped it and it ended up costing us the ballgame. he made a lot of good plays for us, too, in the past but those are the times of things that we have to make sure that we don't give any extra outs because that really, you know, ends up batting you. >> what did you think of craig stammen's performance? he did a good job, started shaky, pitching away from contact and started throwing the sinker over the plate. these guys didn't see him before and he did a nice job, gave us an opportunity to win

the ballgame into into the nationals have not played that many games in domed stadiums. >> ray: the astro deem used to be tough but theypainted that dark. metro dome, as i mentioned, has never been tough. i never played a game down there but a lot of people talked about the difficulty in picking the ball up, not only in the outfield but all the things that come into play. they built that ballpark and basically the roof is right on top of you. the cat walk comes into play, the rights are right on top. there is a glare up there. i'm not making excuses, you know. again, major league players have got to catch those balls. we have not done it and that's why we have only won 16 ball games. >> bob: aguarantee. >> johnny: manny acta said, i agree with him, i guarantee you that nick johnson wanted to catch that ball. next time, he will have a better feel. he overran it, that's it. >> ray: i guess didn't see it. >> johnny: hope you join us tomorrow night, 7:05 the first

pitch in progress, tampa bay rays against the nationals. good night.

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only at chili's. >> you want to come back. but when we came back in the second period and saw i was pretty beat up, you know, i don't know, we didn't talk too much about it. but i knew what everybody thought. we have to win that for him. and you knowie what, he's been r leader. just try to g follow him the way henz plays through his playoff. him and geno. and he's our leader out there. he's a special player. and when he goes down like that and, you know, he was really down on himself when he was hurt. between second and third. but he knew that we could do it. him.now, i'm proud to say that >> last year max, you and fleur would have latal fight before ewe you'd come out. this year your ritual changed. what exactly do you say or did

you say to him before the games to get him pumped up? >> we always say the same thing. we talk a little bit about life, about anything. about the game coming up. about the -- our family watching us at home when they're not there. you know, be proud to play. we're lucky to be here. that's what we say, just basic things. we realize before every game that we're lucky to be there and that's exact thing we're saying. and it gets us going. obviously we feel fortunate to be there with two guys that lives 30 minutes away and same age and we went to the world championship world juniors together and lost in the final. and since then we're in pittsburgh together. and he's a great friend of mine. and you know, i'm so happy. you can quote me on that fliewrly is winning goaltender right. nowea everybody always says we'e not sure. he's never won anything. but he proved everybody that he's a winning goaltender and i'm so happy for that and that's going to stay with him. >> max, you seem to have a flare

for the dramatic on a stage like this with two goals and you've had other big goals in situations like this. what is it about you that seems to make you kick into it another gear in these situations? >> i don't know. maybe the character my parents gave me. i don't know. it's special. i feel that when -- when you get one, one goal and when you lead a team to championship, which i was lucky enough to do when i was junior, and you score big goals through your clear and it feels like it stays with you and people talk about it. now you start leaving it and you just say to yourself that you're that type of player that you want to be there in big games and, you know, it might sound stupid but hockey is a lot in the head. you look at my skills. there's a lot of players in the h.l. that has more skills than me. and i am not lying there. when you think about it, a lot of splairs in the head and what you can imaginee what who you believe in and what you believe in. and it's -- it's special. and you know, i just can't believe today that we won the stanley cup andps that's so

special. like i like to say, every morning i like to wake up and say today is the best day of my life. well, today is really the best day of my life. >> just wanted to ask you a bit about number 87. he has had pressure on him since before he was even drafted by you at age 16 he was supposed to win the 1257bly cup. now he is part of a team that does it. can you talk about your view of the pressure he has faced and how he has been able to deal with it and how happy you are for him after, you know, it's great to be great but there's pressure that goes along with it. >> i met situated when he was 13, i was 16. we were in los angeles. and you know, since then i saw him when i was 17. he was 15. we were at a world junior camp and he was there sedating by himself. he was 12 and had an agent and, you know, i was in front of my tv when we won the laundry. pittsburgh got the first pick

overall and it was situated crosby and you know what? i was kind of scared because i was cinnamon. and he was a cinnamon. i thought oh, he just took my spot. since then we had a chance to share a lot together. he is our team. he is the heard and sole -- soul of the pittsburgh penguins. he is our leader and what he brings every day to the rink is special. the pressure he had to go through to become that player is really special. you know, every day he thinks about hockey. everything he does is about hockey. hem respects the game. yes, he's not flashily like other players in the nhl and maybe the media thinks he's boring but he respects the game, loves the game and today is so special to win that for him. and you look at mario, you know, when he raised the cup. he's the one that got this to pittsburgh four years ago. this team was cloag to winning. you know, mario coapt the team air and look at what happened?

first years later -- four years later you win that beautiful cup. thiengs, guys. >> good little run for the city of pittsburgh. first the steelers and the nb. panthers had a good run. don't forget the hershey bears won the calder cup over the manitoba moots. >> the mood for chocolate now. they're in the mood for lord stanley's cup in pittsburgh. let's take you out to the highlights. game 7 penguins and the redwings. sidney crosby cunning for his first cup. the greatest of all time in the house. first period, no score. kirk a quite open effort. but mark andre fliewr we, one of his 23 saves on the night keeping this one scoreless. seconds period still no score. wings in their own zone. turn it over and that man we

just heard from, maxine talbot shoots and scores. tall lot scored 8-24 goals this postseason. late there are the w period, johann a hard check of sidney crosby. he would leave the game. but he would return. late there are the second, talbot again. led this one 2-0s in after two periods. we head to the third, lord stanley's cup putting on silver shine. was in eight david ortiz like salam, but that i had faith that our economy and david ortiz would be hitting home runs again. unfortunately the "boston globe" ran an editorial the next day questioning my judgment and linking david ortiz's recovery to the american economy.

that night david ortiz hit a home run. last night david ortiz hit a home run. today and yesterday we received all of this new positive commentary about the american economy. i am not saying it is directly related to my speech on monday, however i do believe that, and i thank you for pointing this out that my comments were acrid so please continue and we will add back the time to your statement. >> i will see if i can remember the original. there was what i think it's gone hand-in-hand with the efforts to push for extended federal oversight over transmission. there have been a couple of major studies done by d.o.t. and also done by a group of regional planning entities across the country to look at this idea about how do we actually expanded development in parts of the country where it exists and move that across the multiple regence and deliver it into

subregions. of the joined coordinated system plan was a very large technical analysis of how to go about doing that, what the transmission network would look like, a super high-voltage transmission network. as part of that plan when you look at it one of the things it does is it would dump on extra high-voltage lines on the order of several thousand megawatts of power into new england at a very high-voltage. in addition to the issues that commissioner azar has mentioned, that would require a lot of building out of the transmission within new england. the concern i have is that we have a competitive market framework that is absolutely essential to keep commodity prices low for our consumers. we have a need in the region over the next couple of decades only on the order of several hundred to 1500 megawatts for new power. if we were to the administratively put in a large

high-voltage transmission line that put that quantity of power into our region it would eliminate the signals that are local renewable resources required in order to move forward with financing and development so that is the threat. we absolutely have to meet the carbuncles that the country is now warming up to and we need to meet in the coming years but the way to do that is to do it through ensuring that the resources that are brought on line are those that make the most sense to customers from the standpoint of the delivered price of electricity and we think we can do that without this level of oversight. >> if i may, one of your concerns and new england's concerns, generally those six states would be as he put together regional plans to generate renewable electricity within the region, offshore onshore, there's a huge project in a county in maine that could be ultimately in the thousands

of megawatts if it is built out completely, but there will be an issue in getting that electricity down to the population areas but nonetheless it is contained within new england that had historic relationships and worked through all of their reliability cost allocation and siting issues over the years. you would be concerned that there was some superimpose decision made to build transmission lines in from other parts of the country that that would then change the economics of developing their nobles that are indigenous to massachusetts and new england whether it be maine or off the coastline of new england. i think and i will add this as well, one of the things that is not well understood about the east coast of the united states is that when you go out 10 miles, 20 miles, 30 miles, 40 miles, you are still only in 200 feet of water. when you go out that far on the west coast you are miles deep in

the ocean. so in terms of the siting issues along the east coast for wind especially, you can go out miles and miles and still be just hundreds of feet from having to cite these wind facilities and then with superconducting technologies just bring them into the short and hook them into the preexisting grid that already is there in new england with the states having to work out of course with the cost allocation is, but knowing all of new england for example in new york for that matter in new jersey and maryland are committed to resolving in cooperating in the production of new renewable energy resources. just opening up this whole question of the remote areas of maine for example, most people don't know 95% of maine is forest. it is rural so there is a lot of opportunity there as well and it is a huge state as well so i

just raise that issue because we have to strike a balance here because we do want each region's indigenous resources to be developed as well. let me just stop there and recognize the gentleman from california, mr. mcnerney for his questions. >> thank you mr. chairman. i was expecting you to recognize mr. inslee. >> he has started in recognized for his first round so i think is appropriate for you to be recognized. >> first of all i want to thank chairman wellinghoff for his hospitality this week and i think your testimony was rational. i noticed one thing though, you are seeming to advocate that the fed has a significant large role in the state regulators were all saying well, the state should have a larger role and the fed should have a littler rules so i guess that is not too surprising. i wanted to ask you though do you think that the u.s. faces

significant technical hurdles or do you think it is mostly political hurdles to improving our national grid? >> thank you congressman mcnerney. first, on the issue of the federal role, i really believe that we should primarily defer to the states. i think what we need is to have federal pressure to insure that the states can move forward wit interconnect white regional planning, citing in cost allocation but i largely agree with commissioner azar and her testimony. i think really it needs to be primarily informed by the states. we certainly don't have to have some entity who would overlook that state activity to insure that the national goals are incorporated. >> i liked ms. azar's suggestion that we lock of the state people in one room until some decisions are made but i don't know that is really going to happen. >> on your second question, i think it is a good mix of both

then on the technical side it think it is important to understand, and i know new england and the eastern seaboard states are interested in offshore wind and the support of sure went. i think it is a great resourced but we have to understand they are not an island either. they are interconnected to the entire eastern interconnects so for example if we have offshore wind from rhode island, new jersey, new york all the way up through new england, put in place, developed at say ten gigawatts come up put into the east coast we could not simply as i understand from my reliability engineers simply interconnect and into the existing grid. we in fact, if we had that happen and we had as little as perhaps 2500 or 3,000 megawatts that go off line we could black out florida zoe altman leni to look at how to strengthen the entire interconnects so all the regions can meet the renewable goals and can do it with their

local renewable resources and with distant renewable resources if necessary. >> thank you mr. chairman. feimster halvey i certainly appreciate your work toward the western region. understand that your desire to streamline the permitting process, do you have specific recommendations along those lines? >> yes, i think a couple of recommendations. one, because of the work we are doing with regard to western renewable energy zones project we think it will become clear very quickly which areas represent the most desirable, the richest and most developable renewable resource loans. given that identification we think there is the opportunity to prioritize those areas where they exist in concert with federal lands. we believe there should be a priority given to the permitting on those areas. the same thing with the transmission lines that would be

necessary to move that power from those renewable energy zones to the market centers where it is needed. one of the other aspects of the project is that we will identify conceptually at least, where the transmission lines need to be in order to use that power. >> so you are really addressing the prioritization, not the actual process. >> we think it is both. one recommendation is the prioritization and the second is to look at the requirements and certainly limit the number of requirements that agencies have to go through that have no value added in terms of the permitting process, that there's a way to protect wildlife, a way to address environmental values, a way to go to these processes and not take the kind of time we are seeing with many of these applications. >> i agree and i just want to remark on mr. hibbard's optimism

that offshore wind can be as significant as it can and the fact that it is a proximate to load centers and that is an important consideration as opposed to putting in a lot of transmission. so, i appreciate that and also the observation about putting in a large capacities can have a negative impact unknowables so those comments are appreciated and with that i will yield back. >> the gentleman's time has expired and the chair recognize the gentleman from washington state, mr. inslee. >> thank you. i wanted to read a portion of commissioner azar's testimony and ask a couple of questions of the three of you about it. commissioner azar said congress can and should play an important role in catalyzing state efforts by setting clear mandates in guidelines as well as strict guidelines for regional transmission planning efforts. if these planning efforts fail to meet these mandates or deadlines congress can set up additional backstop authority

for federal agencies to take action and insure that projects identified in the regional planning efforts move forward. pair fresen now, examples of the type of leadership that would be helpful include the following and the commissioner lists for things in the fifth thing is, clear and powerful backs the authority for federal action, to plan for a proven site transmission lines that are identified as vital in the state led planning process. i agree essentially with that statement and the bill i have introduced and i think heads in that direction. the question i would like to ask mr. hibbard, commissioner azar and chairman wellinghoff is mr. hibert has identified this issue that he does not want to see offshore wind intruded upon by coal coming in from ohio or somewhere else, and i believe if we do have this backstop authority we can and should build something in that would make sure that we preserve our

goal of enhancing low carbon base fuels as part of what you might think of as bonus of backstop federal authority. it is there a way to do that and if you could give us your thoughts on the best way to do that. i would start with mr. hibbard, if we were to adopt the supporting what would you encourage us to do to prevent the scenario that you fear? >> let me start by saying i think the legislation as it stands contains that backstop authority. by setting a cap on carbon in setting a floor on a renewable resource development you are providing competitive markets, the signal they need to spur the development. the question you are opposing is what a that is not enough? with that some point we lukken we see for whatever reason, we are not getting the level of development of renewable and low carbon resources to meet our clear caps and r clear

florida's? what i would urge all of you to consider is to try to come up with a framework that does so while maintaining the importance of competitive market solutions. again, under ferc's leadership our wholesale markets are critical for keeping prices low for consumers and not violating that is extremely important. are there ways to do that? the one example i can give you in massachusetts we enacted legislation that requires our utilities to enter into long-term delivered price contracts with renewable power sources. so that the utilities themselves would issue solicitations and would select the lowest cost option for meeting that goal of the massachusetts state legislature. you could consider something along the same lines were at some point you could evaluate whether or not the country is heading towards meeting its carbon cap and its renewable

power floor and if there is a deficiency identified have ferc stepped in and essentially a backstop planning mode and require that regence, rto's, utilities are interconnecting transmission owners issues solicitations from long-term contracts for renewables. >> i want to make sure i have, if you would wrap up, i want to make surrogate the other two. >> thank you congressman. i am optimistic that if congress sets the goals and sets the process and has a strong backstop authority, that we will be able to get this done. if we don't get it done, again i think that is when the role of ferc stetz in soe ferc for instance if the state came up with a specific plan, and the plan did not meet the derek 'tis of congress that congress set, i think there needs to be essentially an overseer, and i

personally would be fine with that been the federal government saying yeah this plan meets those objectives. but the plan itself has to be designed by the states. >> mr. chairman. >> thank you congressman inslee. just to respond to mr. hibbard, i want to make very clear that ferc is very committed to competitive market solutions. we would choose to do anything that would be contrary to that but when a man looking transmission there is not market barriers and those include the issues of siding, cost allocation and agreeing with commissioner azar i think it is necessary to allow the states to move forward to see if they in fact can do some interconnect wide planning, collectively that they are moving forward in the eastern and western interconnects and see from that the cost allocation can be agreed upon but if not we have to have that pressure, that federal pressure to inform that

process to make sure it moves forward, to insure we meet our national goals. >> thank you. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the chair recognizes the gentlelady from wisconsin. >> thank you mr. chairman. when i hear the discussions about connecting with generation through transmission to load centers on the east coast, i sort of feel like wisconsin could become a state that has an extension cord running through it. maybe i should use the swimming pool analogy instead, but that is the image that it conjures up for me, and i worry that if disincentivize is distributed generation and as i ponder in my opening statement earlier this forning, how we propose to pay