>> this government is out of touch with reality and people were suffering with the economic crisis. and in the south by unilaterally without consulting fishermen mr. speaker why did they have this decision in the newspapers and will he i agree to reverse the finding so they can do their jobs rather than go belly up? >> the honorable minister of fisheries and oceans? >> that number days member is talking as if we should not pay any attention to science but for them to sustainability, and is very important because we find it as a contributing factor and i

have directed a plan to reduce the number in the gulf [inaudible] >> whether tax cut third financing we are looking to support small business owners. the minister of state recently received one of the women business enterprise national council international luminary award to the outstanding work she has done with the canadian women. they say what our government is continuing to do for women [inaudible] i think the member for her question and in canada, in

fact, the only thing he has cited is the most creative and entrepreneur in the world. is why our government is supporting women entrepreneurs and the canadian limits even more to force the government economic action plan. for self-employed, the government role has already been labeled a fuel joke. doesn't help paper mills? no. lumbermill's? no. but with those that are laid off it will not help the

paper. why is this government so callous when it comes to the thousands of families, hundreds of opportunities and zero provinces left out of this deal? [applause] >> mr. speaker had a great question yesterday and discovered $1 billion it was a transformation program and it made sense not only using renewable fuels but we need to take a vantage and mr. speaker the industry has responded and greatly appreciates the devil is strong commitment to the future and the industry. [applause]

>> senator spokesman health-care we will hear from gary read and match mcconnell but first here is senator john mccain. this is 15 minutes. >> mr. president i would like to say a few words about health care and obviously, we are going to, most media

reports and as members of the health committee basically we're at a gridlock. the congressional budget office stated money in response to the legislation considered and the health committee that wants the proposal and i quote is fully implemented the number of people who have coverage by a employer will decline by 15,000,001 hall scorer consulting firm estimates the number to be much higher and estimates 70 percent of all americans who have private insurance today come a 120 million americans will lose their health insurance and be forced onto the government payroll. that stance in the stark contract -- contrast to the repeated assertions if you like your health care you can keep it. analysis by the health care economics firm bound to get

all americans covered under the democrats' bill will cost a staggering $4 trillion and resulted in 79 million americans who currently have private insurance having to obtain coverage from a government plan. i have described is the crowd out phenomenon. substitution the fact that occurs when a massive government insurance plan crowds out private insurance as the expansion of publicly subsidized programs encourage or force people from private arrangements to public wants. is a real issue they must pay attention to the president said "dynodes americans are content with their health care coverage and that means no matter how we reform health care we would keep their promise if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor per period if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it nobody will take it away no matter what progress

of the bill we are considering is an active i do not believe this is a promise the president can keep the president home town newspaper the tribune said on tuesday and i quote, the president promises anyone who wants to keep private coverage can do so but we do know a few things about government run health plans part of the federal government is in -- not competition but the equivalent of bigfoot and sets lower prices and lower than many insurers can match that means those doctors and hospitals recoup the losses by shifting the cost on to those with private insurance that could crowd out private plans americans think the health-care system is not broke down. they pay for good care of the insurance but the government run health plan says the cure

would be worse than the illness. "the chicago tribune" has the right two what americans are pleased with their health care options 70 percent of americans with health insurance rated coverage good or excellent according to the rasmussen report dated dated me 14, 2009 purchase of a 70% may be the precise cuban-americans who will lose their health insurance and be forced into government run programs if legislation is enacted. it is a fact premiums continue rising eating into family budgets and preventing the uninsured from getting covered this is what we need to be addressing and bring down the cost of health care and thus the cost of health coverage will lead to more coverage of the uninsured and ensure that those that like health care coverage can keep that and the

president's promises but the majority bill contains not one single reform that will save money but instead, it will cost up at $4 trillion and forced 79 million americans from their coverage, this is not reform and why we should start over prior believe the democrats and the white house should scrap the bill and start over per democrats and republicans must come together to draft a bill that allows the president to double this promise that americans can keep their doctor or health care plan. mr. president we spent a lot of time going over an incomplete proposal supposedly buy tonight, the three major issues including the government option will be revealed to us by the majority side. it is soon.

i hope we can view it sold for the first time we have a meaningful discussion and negotiation because so far between major components they are blank spaces pry have never seen the process such as we are going to do right now. is basically fundamentally a share raid so the democrats can come to the floor and say we consulted with the republicans with hours and hours of debate, discussion and markup when we were not presented with a key elements of the legislation we were to be considering of the key elements are there we can examine over the weekend then perhaps we can sit down together and negotiate some kind of reasonable approach. it is not an accident the finance committee, the other committee that is it to be tracking the health reform

bill has decided not to present their proposal until after the fourth of july recess because they simply don't have a way to pay for it. the cbo analysis and other outside analysis, mr. president, has really revealed something very important that the plan as propounded by the administration and the democrats is unsustainably expensive and one fed did not have a way of paying for it. it'd be very interesting to see how they tailor their plan to the expenses and how they address the issue of how to pay for it. clearly raising taxes is an option they are considering. i don't think raising anybody taxes in the present-day economy is something that would be beneficial to all americans.

mr. president i suggest the absence of a quorum. >> the best way to ease the pressure and burden of health-care it is easy to becomes sidetracked by distractions are easy to point* fingers but when we do those we lose sight what is at the heart of the effort and the reform. take a moment at this end of the week with this is all about the health-care debate. there are two of tank casualties of the health-care system the americans deserve better to be casualties of misleading politics. for millions without health care is a critical crisis children, families, a small and big businesses, every single day. parents who cannot take a child to the doctor because insurance is inspecting of the

families on one check away from financial ruin and businesses have to lay off employees because they cannot afford the health insurance and i had to cancel it because they cannot afford it. of three of the five families plot of necessary medical care because it costs too much. so we as democrats are committed to having a high price of health care to assure every american has quality access care and let people choose their own doctors and health plans and we are committed to the future health coverage am prepared for the millions between 9 million children who have none. we are committed to reducing health disparities and increasing the 10 detection to save lives part of the matter what the republicans claim the government has no intention of choosing for you any of these things are meddling in your medical relationship

if you like the coverage you have you can choose to keep it. healthcare should not be a luxury we cannot afford another year in which 50 million have to choose between basic necessities and lining the pockets of the big insurance companies to stay healthy. i hear every day e-mails, phone calls, letters and other means of communication, i hear people are turned down for health coverage by providers to care more about profits and people who have lost health coverage when they lost their jobs and a can now not get a back. people play by the rules and rightly demand health-care system is guided by common-sense. that is what the debate is all about. these people and nothing else should be the focus to the honest debate they deserve, the people of america. >> mr. president one thing we can all agree on is the need

for serious health care reform. obama's spoke to the ama to discuss the issue. i'm qualified the president for his commitment and i agree we need to make it more affordable and accessible to all americans. of the american people want reform, they want us to fix what is wrong with the system without taking away the freedom, choices and quality of care they now enjoy. during a speech the president to acknowledge these concerns and articulate principles on health-care reform that many republicans share. but it seems to me many friends on the other side of the ashes of listened more closely what the president said. one thing is that america is should not be forced to give up the insurance they currently have and like and be forced into a government plan. the president promised the american people "if you like

your doctor you can keep your doctor" end quote. if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. no one will take it away no matter what. republicans agree with the president on that. democrats in congress are making last-minute at its to the bill to the nonpartisan cbo says will cost 10 million people with employers sponsored insurance to lose the coverage they currently have. that is the number of people who would lose it just under one section of the bill. this legislation is still missing significant sections the active force tens of millions of americans to lose the coverage with those who go to health insurance should be able to keep it. bad is being considered by the house committee would help people and forced them off of

the health-care plan they now enjoy. another issue that we agree on then the to invest more in preventative care and bonus programs which are an important way to cut costs and improve care. obama and engen these successful well this program that safeway created which has dramatically cut the health-care costs and premiums. he said he would be open to do more to help businesses adopt and expand programs like the one created by safeway. but the bill the democrats are pushing through the senate would ban the successful program from being copied or implemented per republicans agree on the need to reform the medical liability laws where malpractice lawsuits are a major cause of the increasing health care costs. lawsuits cost or cause insurance premiums to skyrocket and doctors pass the

higher cost to patience. doctors also order expensive and unnecessary tests just to protect themselves against lawsuits and some just close their practices or stop offering services as a result of the pressure. patients lose out according to a report by the kentucky institute of medicine and it is nearly 2300 doctors short of the national average a shortage of could be reduced by reforming the medical malpractice laws. obama has not advocated the liability reform most republicans would like to see but he has opened the door to the system. none of the bills introduced in congress even acknowledge the need for malpractice reform or propose any solutions to do with the problem. finally come republicans share the president's concern how

much health care reform will cost and how we both pay for it. obama's says he sets down a rule that health-care reform must me and will be deficit neutral in the next decade but that estimates show that just one, i just one section of the bill spent $1.3 trillion. and even more outrageous is the fact it doesn't even have any proposals to pay for the enormous price tag other than to borrow it from the taxpayers for americans want reform but they do not want to spend trillions of dollars they and they're grandchildren have to pay for the higher taxes and more deprivation americans can keep the coverage they have and strengthening well this and prevention programs, performing medical malpractice laws republicans share a common ground with the president, i just wish that

congressional democrats did as well. mr. president i suggest the absence of a quorum. >> the committee meets for the consideration of the health-care proposal. i thank my colleagues for showing up we will be here for a couple of hours until 12 or 1230 and 12 thank you yesterday for your long day and cooperation part of the amendments that have cleared as a result the staff work and there's a question that we talked about yesterday the

proposals on the language that is being looked over there is a whole host of amendments around that section so i encourage those involved to proceed along the lines over the next hours while we are here to begin disposing of around 10 f-15 at amendments associate with the matter. senator, mr. chairman. >> my staff informed me there is a cbo briefing scheduled 11:00 on monday with the chair consider that those of us that already had travel plans in place trying to get back with a markup schedule at two means it is impossible for us to make the briefing. would you consider moving fed time so all members could participate because i think it is of such a crucial we understand from cbo how they score the bell and as a

follow-up, there is rumors the second half of the bill will now be shared this afternoon and i like to know if they have been the truth since we were to receive the remainder of the bill yesterday, it is crucial that we have ample time to understand what is in it before we get the cost. >> we moved to the briefing to noon to accommodate the colleagues and my intention and consultations with mike anze on this because we don't have that ready so to give members of acquit time to respond. >> will we get the second half of the bill today? >> we will try. if we got it today amendments could be filed next week we will know when we can get that

to you. >> how can we possibly know what amendments we want until we have the bill? i have been around a long time i have never seen a process where we are expected to amend a bill that the key elements of which we have never seen. all of this stuff, the time you have wasted is unbelievable to me provide five your time was more valuable mr. chairman. mind is. of the two key elements employer mandates which is the heart and the deaths of the immigration reform and we still have not seen it and we may not see it tonight or maybe next week and you are talking about closing out amendments when we have not seen the fundamental aspects of the bill. you will go to the floor next week and say we have to finish this by friday because we're going into recess i have given the committee all of these

hours and they have been a waste of time when we don't know what the bill cost and we do not know the employer mandates and we do not know the government option. >> mr. chairman, let me finish, we do know the cbo estimates and we're working on the bell. we have the estimates regarding the quality they have been considered or both to non or disposed of 30 amendments that is not insignificant 41 days work in a markup but to get the numbers there is no point* in putting language in front of you the question is this is the language and what is the cost? >> when i come up with legislation i usually have the cbo numbers before i introduce a bill. >> we're trying to get language appear that has the numbers we cannot run the numbers until we kraft the

language. >> they run the numbers it is $1 trillion. >> weir unprecedented no question with health care a lot of things we're talking about cbo is under pressure from the house and finance committee to produce numbers on various ideas for commonality but it is the check-in and the eight numbers language without the numbers makes the question obvious that what does it cost? if i cannot answer the question then the indictment is you put up the language without the numbers so we try to accommodate both and is simultaneously recognizes by the rules of 24 hours which is a normal process that is difficult to do so i want to accommodate that senator burr has raised to give adequate time for people to respond so you can have amendments ready

if you are not happy with the cbo numbers provided. >> mr. chairman and may add to my comment even with the 12:00 accommodation, i can i get here the airline schedules i have no effect and i would be cut out. i understand we can't all make it but let me make this clear, if the legislation is not released to us today over the weekend rican actually read it i am not sure having the cbo con man and brief us on how they scored a product that we have yet to look at and disseminate the informatiinformati on is valuable to those of us who have not seen it. of the fact we do not have the legislation before money, i would ask said chair to delay the cbo briefing until we better understand what cbo would describe. >> mr. chairman, i know you try to run a fair process and

it is a difficult job and you run into this in the extraordinary way. but let me tell you, when i question the most important part of the bill, the debts is the coverage. that will take days. under any circumstances. that is where we really have to work together if we have a bill at all and yet i think senator mccain has raised important issues, we don't have the numbers, the estimates of i don't have them, i will put it that way. is very difficult to work with this if we don't have that. i know that you know, that, but to set the arbitrary deadlines when coverage on a bill like this takes a lot of

time on any bill. especially when it affects the american in the economy. all like can say is get us the information and let's not push this so hard we cannot do a job there really has to be done in order to not come up with a colossal mess. i intend to work with you and see what we can do. i think it is not only important but also the most controversial part and right now we have no way of understanding with coverage is or how you handle its or what the recommendations from cbo are as well. senator mccain has said we have yet to see the language or at least 11 especially the coverage part. there are a lot of controversial amendments we have not even