on the road is 16.20 and at home is 4.30. the friendly confines? slow infield? now it is a fast infield yet they're still pitching better here. >> jim: jim, does the mound have anything to do with that? >> jim: i haven't been out there lately, bob, but i don't think so. obviously some mounds and rob will testify to this, i always thought -- the ones that -- >> rob: dodger stadium. >> jim: yes, when i pitched in that first world series game when i was to 20. some parks you feel like you're closer to home plate than others. >> rob: absolutely. wrigley. i loved pitching wrigley because of the back wall. it seemed like it was 10 feet behind home plate. >> bob: we've had pitchers tell us when you're pitching in cincinnati or philadelphia, you feel like the left center field wall is 20 feet behind you.

>> jim: how about fenway park when there is green paint on the back of your rear end after the game? the late pan dobb zonks we were always thinking, the red sox and the yankees and the tigers were some of our big opponents, and they traded for marty patton, and the late pat dobbson did a whole pan mime of pat pitching in fenway shake off signs. he never got to throw a pitch because he was so nervous. we had never seen him pitch there, but it is just there are certain ballparks that the bleachers are entirely too close. >> rob: did you have any ballparks that you didn't like the mound? >> jim: seattle. i just didn't like seattle. >> bob: that was a band box. and a fastball up in -- up and in that huff can't catch up with and the count go to 3-2. >> rob: so you weren't a big fan of arena baseball?

>> jim: no. i'm trying to think where else. >> bob: minnesota maybe? >> jim: no, i liked -- they had some real good hitters there, but so did we. and it all kind of evened out on the teams i played for. >> bob: 3-2. we'll see if the o's do something with the runner a bouncing ball right side. hernandez wheels to guzman, and that's a nice-looking 4-6-3. the nationals turn their second double play of the night. willingham dunn, willingham and dukes ahead in the sixth.

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about matt wieters is he is a huge target. i had joe oliver who was about 6'4", 6'5", 250. what is he about 6'6"? >> jim: 6 '5". he took a little bit off. >> jim: the location. >> rob: did you throw to shoulders, knees? because i threw to the whole square of the catcher, not just his glove. >> jim: rick dempsey used to have the orange ring about his glove, the day glow. >> bob: fastball up. wieters, by the way, listed at 6'5", 230. and rick dempsey, i talked to him before the game and he told me he is still trying to get comfortable back there. maybe a little too much movement here and there. >> jim: that's what jim said, he was down in florida. sometimes you can be a little late with the target. see now he is much better tonight about it.

i know don warner, who is the -- really the roving catching instructor. he said this is a young guy. he is only 22 years old. jim hunter said he is 20 game ins the big league ? >> bob: yeah. >> jim: andy macphail, the general manager of the orioles, he said it is not like you're an older, there's a lot of things going on when ryu have to catch. you to call the game; receive it, trail the pitches. you are 6 '5". sandy alomar jr. said, and when the mets were many, he said dennis martinez said give me a shoulder, give me a knee, give me a target. rook. and this was a veteran pitcher. >> bob: a breaking ball that got right in on dunn's trademark. >> rob: and it is difficult, too. today, jim, because so many guys do that little peripheral peek back to see location. they're trying to pick apart,

especially a rookie catcher, where he is sitting --setting up. is he setting up too early inside, outside? but always want the glove up there as quickly as possible, just to, you know, get a feel for where i'm going to be visualizing this breaking ball, back door, inside, whatever. >> jim: yeah. and last at-bat i was watching not only the nationals and the red sox, but off of the orioles and the marlins and i was watching varitek, another switch hitter and he givetarget early, kind of relaxes and then it comes up right then when you're looking. i think this is a work in progress and why would anyone, i don't care how highly touted you are, just expect to come to the big leagues and not have to improve. >> bob: that mitt sure looks small on his hand. >> jim: sandy at low mar said he may have the softest lands of any young catcher he has seen. >> bob: 3-26789 this is one of

the most selective hitters in baseball. .399 on-base average and he is second in the national league in walks with 57. adrian gonzalez of san diego, 59. this one looks playable if someone can get there. the shift was on and that is a long run for melvin mora to make that play in foul ground. >> jim: when melvin came over from the mets, he started with houston, he was a shortstop, center fielder. but right there you're playing third base, but you're playing shortstop. there is melvin and there he goes. a big out because dunn looked like he wanted to try to get on, two runs down. >> rob: that is adam after the play. he is oh-fer three. >> bob: and here is willinghamham. >> jim: i don't know if brad

bergesen hwas sent out early. he had a great spring for the orioles. josh willingham wthe grand slam when the orioles went to play the nationals off of alfredo. >> rob: the exhibition game. >> jim: so i think they all know as you look at matt albers. sinking ball right-handed. and the right-hander getting loose. >> bob: josh willingham, nine homers, 16 rbi's. at one point last week he had nine homers and 13 rbi's. there just hasn 't been anyone on base this year when he has hit his home runs, and he is third on club. >> rob: a couple of pitches away from 100 now, bergesen. >> jim: and he is also hitting .115 with runners in scoring position, so when he does get opportunities. >> bob: how did he reach that breaking ball on 1-2? >> rob: it has been difficult when you have five, six

outfield everies -- offed everies, getting enough at- bats, keeping them all with an edge. it has not been easy at all with manny acta. >> bob: that might with down to four now because austin kearns' playing time, if willingham produces lbe severely curtailed. he is in a big-time slump. willingham will hit that fastball foul. bergesen working off of the first base side of the rubber to bring take sinker back across the plate and down in on the right-hander. >> rob: did you change sides of the rubber? >> jim: no, i stood pretty much -- maybe a couple of inches over towards the mid of the rub or. >> rob: did you push off the rubber? >> jim: oh, yeah. i thought i was. >> rob: because i have watched a lot of tape of you, sandy koufax. sandy koufax had half of his

spikes on top and half there. that's what it is. >> jim: if you're jamie moyer. >> rob: he is not the only one. was taught that on a trip with the all-star team to japan. they taught me how to get an tray -- extra yard on my fastball. i said you're about five years too late. >> jim: is the sinker you're talking about the one bad inning that brad bergesen had and elijah dukes kind of ran himself out of is when he got himself behind and that has changed. >> bob: our pitch track is brought to us by northrop grumman, the information power house. >> rob: were you taught to push off the rubber? >> jim: yeah nlittle league in beverly hills. cop oh. they said daniel cabrera didn't do that. he put his foot on top. i didn't know that. >> rob: i always used the rubber like a sprinter.

you know, like a sprinter gets out of the block. you're pushing towards home plate. >> jim: of course. that's why it is out there. >> bob: 1-1 to dukes. they have been giving him a steady diet of breaking stuff. the bat flew right past the pitcher's head. that was chuck and duck for brad bergesen. he gets the ground ball to brian roberts and a one, two, three top of the sixth. the orioles lead 3-1. this was dangerous.

>> welcome back to the yard everybody. today, dave trembley told the media it is highly unlikely that koji u har aye will make his scheduled start on sunday against the nationals. cocky returned home today with the team. he met with team doctors, and although the reports were good, but the swelling and the inflammation in his elbow seemed to have subsided a bit, it seem that is the orioles are not prepared to put him back out on the mound. andy macphail is going to talk to the team doctors again to decide what the next step will be. it is widely believed that david hernandez will be recalled from triple-a nor fork to get the start. >> bob: 12 starts for uehara.

and that ball bangs off the mound and a base hit for nolan reimold and he is 2-3. >> jim: there you go low fastball, middle of the plate. he was talking today. he said the biggest problem he had in the maynor leagues was kind of balance. pitching, as you mentioned, you kind of push off the rubber. you have to load when you hit. he said he would be bobbing and we'ving, and now with terry cruelly, the hitting instructor for the orioles, he was our guy who was supposed to be hitting home runs in the minor league, i'm surprised at how good he is. better than advertised. >> bob: breaking ball and the count is now even. >> jim: if you're ross

detwiler, you're looking at the nine guys in the orioles' lineup and the one guy to bounce into the double play is the one guy you better get out and he had to do it with the bases loaded. it looks like arizona highway magazine there. >> rob: a view of the sky and the warehouse. this is a beautiful stadium. >> jim: did you ever train in arizona? >> rob: once. >> jim: because i grew up in scottsdale and went to high school there. >> bob: i have had a lot of players tell me they love flit because the weather is the same every day. they get their work in. they know what their schedule is supposed to be. a lot less volatile than florida a good swing by luke scott that is going to push reimold all the way to third base and baltimore with a corner situation, nobody out here in the sixth. >> jim: a nice at-bat again by luke scott. jim hunter talked about he can be streaky. he is not too streaky when you get fastball ins the middle of

the plate and that's what this is. it is not a bad pitch because it hits the corner. he just goes with it a nice play there by willingham to keep it from being a double. >> bob: that is a slow walk to the mound as manny acta is about to go into his bullpen. >> jim: don't you think it is a combination of the scoreboard and the pitch count? >> rob: five hits tonight have been to left-handers. the lefties are getting too much of him. >> jim: .188 and that number goes up. >> bob: five-plus innings and right around 100 pitches for detwiler and joel hanrahan is on the way! announcer: what's your cialis moment? when she gives me that look. when at last we're alone. when we both decide. announcer: today, guys with erectile dysfunction can be

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>> rob: let's give you a ga summary here. here are the geico highlights. this is bergesen. he got into a little wit of a jam, but he was picked up by a great throw. mora with a great tag. and then ross detwiler got into trouble. hanging changeup to reimold. he drives in aubrey huff. another run is going to come in. reimold scores on that play. right now 3-1, the ballgame. detwiler ser done for the night. bergesen has made much better pitching -- a better job tonight than detwiler, so bergesen is up 3-1 and now the bullpen is in, bob, for the nationals. >> bob: under a beautiful late june sky here near the inner harbor and it is the struggling

joel hanrahan. five saves on the year but he has been demoted from the closer's role a second time. he throws hard to get strikeouts and pop-ups in a situation when you need that and there is the high fastball for the strike. >> jim: that's what he is looking for. melvin mora came into the game. he hadn't hit a home run in, what, 149 at-bats. so the power numbers are down, even though rob showed you that soft single to right for an rbi. >> bob: but rob will also tell you, jim, this is is a pitcher who gets himself in trouble when he tries to trick people with that slider. >> jim: we saw h him early on and we talked about the grand slam by willingham in the exhibition game. hanrahan came in with the one- run lead and threw balls and came back with sliders and sped up the bat and they took

advantage of it. but he does have the kind of stuff that you need to try to come in and strike people out, if he can command it. >> bob: down the line in left and it's 4-1 baltimore. they're going to send the other runner, luke scott. the nationals missed the cut- off man, and on a breaking ball those runs will be charged to ross detwiler closing the book on him. those three pitches might be the microcosm of hanrahan's season. >> rob: he gets ahead with the fastball. he gets beat with 2 breaking ball. if you're a hitter and the guy throws 95, you're hoping he throws you an off-speed pitch. mora just kills it. a bad relay there. hernandez falls down trying to make the catch that wouldn't have had scott at home anyway. bob, if you can't trust your

best pitch, which is your fastball and you continually get beat with a breaking ball, you just don't have the confidence possibly to pitch up here. >> jim: that is a good point. what do you do best? from what i have seen, it is throw the heater. >> rob: absolutely. >> jim: and then if you throw it up and complained it, then you can pitch out with the slider. >> bob: and we always felt we shouldn't see a slider until it is 0-1, 1-2 and then bury it. >> jim: you throw it in a situation as you guys know that you don't have to throw for a strike. but, again if you're doing your due dill against as a reliever, you look at the numbers as matt wieters steps to the plate and you go melvin mora, 149 at-bats without a home run.

maybe he doesn't have the bat speed at age 37 that he used to. >> rob: and we just saw him and he crushes that changeup. you helped him. >> rob: now jordan zimmermann faces ortiz and he blew him away. not even close to the fastball. >> bob: all five runs charged to detwiler, he goes five plus, gives up nine hits, two walks, a couple of double play balls kept that line from being worse. and then you look up and it is 3-1 on the next hitter. >> rob: i know you would never be disrespectful to hitters and you faced multiple hall of famers in your career, but you probably didn't think anyone could hit your stuff. >> jim: well -- >> rob: within reason. you have to believe you can't hit my stuff. >> bob: that's a fastball hit a mile and foul.

>> jim: a mile towards the warehouse. >> bob: wieters making a bid for his third big league home run. as always, some fans in the corner pointing fair. that ball was not that far from going right over the top of that foul pole and, jim, here at camden yards, that's not one of the taller foul poles in baseball. >> jim: no, it isn't, and this ball is launched. the two home runs that matt wieters has hit this year have been to left field. >> rob: the one thing you don't want to do with a guy with power is let him get his his arms extended so the fastball has to be way in or way away. >> bob: and then hanrahan does come back. >> rob: with the breaking ball. >> bob: it was down in the zone and that is the first out here in the sixth.

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with conviction. he threw a great slider to wieters and now he is throwing fastballs. but you shouldn't have to give up a couple of runs. >> jim: you're right. he was a starting pitch mer the minor leagues, so he should have a pretty good sense of how to -- the guy should not be a thrower. he should be a pitcher. >> bob: and then he buries the slider. >> rob: but you have the throw it. you have the throw it. >> jim: you have to finish it. >> rob: you have to have the good follow-through, the mechanics. but but getting back to my point about the hitters, you to believe they can't hit your stuff. >> jim: if you make your pitches. and your defense, the way you pitch them, you're going to

throw them away, again, the number one draft choice, matt half good. i said you know what you try to do as a 3eu67er, whether you're relieving, you try to concise the field. the field is big, but if you can command your stuff, you can play them a couple of steps. i don't mean overplay them. but all of a sudden the field gets smaller. you have more defensive players in a smaller area. it macks sense to me, and try to keep the ball in the ballpark. >> rob: and say you got the based loaded and one out. i'm one pitch from getting out of this inning. all i need is one ground ball do my infielders. and you try to put that breaking ball or pitch where you want the guy to hit it. he hits it on the ground and you're out of a jam.

>> bob: at second base, mora, who has driven in three runs tonight. one of his biggest rbi nights of the year. he only has 21. and hanrahan had andino reaching. >> rob: if you're in a situation, and i said this earlier in the year, when he gave up a two-run home run, the only thing that guy was trying to do was hit a already in that situation. so the one pitch you don't want to give him is anything up e that he can get his arms extended. if he get as base hit, he get as base hit. he hung a changeup and a curve ball and left the park. >> bob: it looked like andino was about ready to ask for time, and then hanrahan stepped off anyway. but this is a hitter with very

little power. it will be interesting to see what he throws on 3-2. the fastball up and he's late. and that tells you, you try to read the bat. >> jim: one thing about robert andino, he hit a walk-off home run when he was a marlin last year, and one thing has done and theo openstein, the red sox general manager, he said i'm in to run production and run prevention. since he has taken over with the injury to izturis, he has played great shortstop so there is your prevention. >> bob: bouncing ball, zimmerman deflects it to guzman. that will serve to keep the runner mora at second base. and ryan zimmerman has amazing range from that third base corner. >> jim: this one a good one. we have a great angle here and you can see zimmerman, what,

about four steps. no two steps and a dive for ryan. jim, one thing you will never see, the ball go under his glove, even when he is son the move; he has the glue down coming up. that ball glanced off the thumb of his glove and it is first and second and one out. he really is a remarkable glove man at third base. >> jim: i was doing a game in detroit with brooks and alan trammell caught a ball and brooks was doing color and i was doing play-by-play, and he said the best fielding mechanics that i have seen the a long time. i said maybe we'll come back on the slow mo and now x-mo and you'll show us. and this is a guy with 16 gold gloves, brooks robinson. i used to have trouble keeping my glove down and they told me to lay it on the ground.

you can always come up. you can't go down. >> bob: exactly. >> jim: to hear brooks talk about that. this is a guy that would go on to be the human vacuum cleaner and the mvp of the world series in 1970. >> bob: if it wasn't for the throws, ryan zimmerman might have already clinched the gold glove this year. david wright is the incumbent now and they're about even in the number of errors. >> jim: wright is having throwing problems, too. >> bob: but i don't think anyone who has watched the two of them would tell you that david wright is a better third baseman. >> jim: but he does play in new york. >> bob: he does. >> jim: and he hits and that sometimes leads to gold gloves. 3-0. >> rob: getting back to brooks robinson, he has to have great hand-eye or