now this large uprise and members of confirmed cases means a more flexible and local approach is going to be used in areas where there are high numbers of cases reported. and we continue to monitor the situation closely making sure that arrangements are in place so that the u.k. remains well placed to deal with this pandemic. we will adapt these arrangements as the situation changes and my right honorable friend will make a statement to this house tomorrow on the outcome of our deliberations. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i welcome what the prime minister has said about the armed. my godfather served in the second world war and the if the house will excuse my vernacular and i might be turning belly in his grave knowing it will be no

more. not only to me but to the personnel and to veterans who i met on saturday that they will remain the identity of the black watch. >> i too met black watch >> i.t. met black watch servicemen on saturday in people who have contributed greatly to our armed forces and i can assure him the tradition to talk about will be maintained as long as the army exists. >> david cameron. >> thank you mr. speaker. can i welcome what the prime minister said and agree with them about the queen's new recognition for armed forces. we should be incredibly proud of what they do on our behalf. last week that think it was demonstrated for everyone to see that capital spending under labor will be cut. now i want to turn to total spending for the will the prime minister accept that his own figures show that once the treasury is forecast for inflation, the total spending will be cut after 2011?

>> no mr. speaker, total spending will continue to rise and it will be at 0% rise in 2013 and 2014. in 2011/12-- [laughter] in 2011/12 and 12, 13. >> order, order. the prime minister's answer must be heard. speak the prime minister said very clearly no, it will rise. can he explain this? this is a treasury presentation that has been given to us and on page 7, on page 7 it says very clearly what headings for current spending and capital spending, the headline is reduction in medium-term spending. so, can i ask the prime minister, if the treasury, if even the treasury is going around giving presentations around the country saying that public spending as a total is

being cut why can't you get to the truth? >> because mr. speaker i have told them previously that current spending is going to rise in capital spending as i explained last week, last week will fall after 2011. that is, these are the public spending projections for the future, but i have to say to him, the debate on public spending is about this. how do we return to growth and jobs in the economy? the reason we have advanced spending to 2009/10 is so we can spend to get out of recession. we have brought proposals for homes and for jobs and for more money in 2009/10. the opposition have rejected this expenditure. we have put forward proposals for expenditures in 2010/11 increasing expenditure and the opposition have rejected that. the capital spending that we have a bense 40009/10 is not available until 2011.

this is precisely the way the government will act to take the country out of recession and i have got to ask him,-- is shadow chancellor should explain why do you was going into television studios yesterday saying that he was going to cut schools now, cut chaires dot, cut the september guarantee and did nothing about unemployment. we can i get out of recession and must be spent now on the services we need. >> mr. speaker today we see a prime minister in full retreat. in the first answer, in the first interview says we are going to get a 0% increase in public spending. that is a new one. in the second answer define the admits he's going to cut and cut deeply capital spending. he talks about the debate over public spending, the debate is about whether the prime minister can be straight with the british public. sill let me ask him again, he is that that this batch and talked

about total spending year after year. that is the thing people are interested in. when the treasury themselves are saying when it comes to total spending there is a reduction, not a freeze but a reduction in medium-term spending. i am glad the prime minister is talking to the chancellor for the first time in weeks. will he stand there, get this straight answer and say once you allow for inflation total spending is being cut. >> i have already said current expenditure will rise and continue to rise. capital spending will rise until 2011 and then it will fall. i have already made it clear that the spending for health and for education and for all these public services, the current spending will continue to rise but the issue surely is this. in 2009/10 we are raising spending substantially. we are doing it in 2010/11 and doing it to take a side of a recession. there is only one serious party in the world that is trying to tell us we should be cutting spending now and that is the conservative party.

he has guts to admit under his proposal schools would be losing money now, teachers would be unemployed, sure stop severances would be going, childcare services would be at risk, no guarantee for jobs. that is the future if the conservatives are to-- >> it is complete nonsense and nobody-- what is interesting is not even his own cabinet now backs the ludicrous line he's taking about public spending. deacs-- keeps talking about this 10%. i don't know whether he realizes how much damage it is doing to him. it is not doing any damage to us. let's just come and show we just explain, let's explain for second with this deceit about the 10% comes from. let me explain to the house. >> the leader of the opposition must be heard.

>> if you take the government's own spending plans, you take off debt interest, you take off the increase for unemployment, which sadly is going to go up. you are left with a 7% cut in every department. the government's own figures. if you extend the nhs you get timbers sent cut. the government's own figures. if you take out comet listen to the school secretary intake of health and schools to get to 13.5% cut. that is the prime minister. mr. 13.5%. let's see if he can answer the simplest of questions. it is he going to have a full departmental spending review before the election, yes or no? >> mr. speaker the first thing that he said is on a plan is going to continue to go up. that is the conservative policy. that is when they say, that is

when they say unemployment is a price worth paying. a seabasing his assumptions on unemployment rising to 2014? no wonder he wants to cut public services. he is basing his assumptions on unemployment continuing to rise because he will do absolutely nothing about it. now we have taken action. we have taken action that is preserving 500,000 jobs. a quarter of a million people leaving the unemployment register every month. we have put in extra money on monday so there is more money for young people that are unemployed and for summer school leavers. we will not forecast are spending plans on unemployment being hired in 2014 and rising every year but if that is what he wants to do, then he cannot afford public services and therefore the truth is he will be cutting public services by 10%. >> i have to say mr. speaker this is one of the most people performances i have ever seen.

if peter mendelsohn had not been so busy wandering around a television studios, he could have been given a vision. that is this prime minister. i did ask a very simple and straightforward question. perhaps he can now answer. peter mendelsohn has said there will not be spending review before the election. can the prime minister tell us, will there be one or not? >> mr. speaker it would be completely wrong to have been spending review now at this stage because the air in the midst of a recession and it is not possible to say what unemployment and growth and all of these characteristics he has been referring who are likely to be in 2012, 13 and 14. i think we have come to the heart of the conservative position today. they are the party of unemployment. their promising all their spending plans on unemployment continuing to rise. he said himself unemployment

will keep on rising. if that is the basis of their spending plan that people can look forward under a conservative government not just to 10% cut but to rising unemployment. and mr. speaker the know why want they want these cutcliff to pay for tax cuts for the very rich. we know once again, they are the party of the few and we are the party of the many. >> i know the walls of the bunker that but the prime minister seems completely unaware that unemployment is rising across the country because of the policies of his government. we have seen hundreds of people lose their jobs in scotland, another tragic case and yet the prime minister seems blissfully unaware. everyone will conclude that they are not going to have been spending a few because they do not want to own up to the cuts they are planning in department after department. the truth is this government is planning to cut capital spending. they are planning to cut total

spending, the fact. the most important fact of all is they are incapable of being straight with the british people. >> mr. speaker. this opposition would cut public spending this year and deprive people of help with unemployment and help with housing. this opposition body would cut public spending next year and cut it in schools and education and even in sure stock programs and we now know the truth about the assumptions about the future. there assuming unemployment will continue to rise as he said to 2014. that is not the policy of this government. we want to get people back to work. >> thank you very much mr. speaker. doesn't the second franchise fiasco on these shows may land in two years tell us the torie privatization of real experiments has finally hit the buffers? now that we are taking these mainlines back in to public ownership, can we keep it that

way? >> mr. speaker first and overriding obligation is to ensure continuity of service to the passengers and that there is no disruption of services, so the secretary of state is establishing a publicly owned company. will take over all franchise to real sources at the point national express ceases to operate. existing assets will be transferred to the new company and we are making sure the service continues to run, passengers continue to be served in jobs continue to exist. >> i would like to obviously join in welcoming the announcement for her majesty today, such a fitting tribute to recognize the bravery and sacrifices of our armed forces. this morning, we have seen this of this debate on public spending hit new lows. i am always tempted to suggest that the lord mendelsohn and the conservative spokesman to go on another cruise together to make up. the real failing, the real

failing is that the conservative party leader wants to cut spending and the economy is still on its knees, economic madness and do you want tell us help her could the prime minister is and will living in complete denial about the long-term savings which will be needed when the economy starts to recover. it is not the case that both deliberately choosing to trade insults so they can both avoid telling the truth? >> mr. speaker, he does not tell us what his policy is at all. the fact of the matter, the fact of the matter is if spending were to be cut this year, jobs would be lost as well as services being put at risk. if spending were to be cut next year than jobs would be lost in spending and services would be at risk. we are determined to ensure that spending remains to increase job opportunities, to protect homeowners and to make sure our public services are there. i hope he will join our side of the debate in protecting public services for the future. >> he is avoiding once again,

the difficult choices in long-term spending do need to be made now if we are going to get in the grip on the country's finances and that is why we should it meant that we need vermeil narcan afford to replace-- he is planning to sign the first contracts for the new submarines this summer during the recess when we are all the way. is in that obvious that he shouldn't do that? >> mr. speaker, we already announced a deficit reduction plan for the next five years ago were taken difficult decisions about asset sales and trading-- about measures that make sure that people are in a, who are in a position to pay more to pay more in the taxes and that is at the top rate. i hope he will support these measures designed to get the deficit down and make sure there's the vision resources for public services. i have already made my position clear.

>> angela smith. >> thank you mr. speaker. lastly chorus denounced job losses in the steel working town in my constituency. job losses which will have a devastating impact on the economy of the town which has a population of only 13,500. will my right honorable friend make the commitment to do whatever he can to make sure that chorus can secure a long-term future to steele working in places like stocks vary? >> mr. speaker, of course wherever there are redundancies it is a matter of sadness and regret. what we are dealing with is a fault in demanding the steel industry when the world which is affecting pregnant every of the country. we are in touch with cars that have provided extra money in the last week for help to secure jobs and we will continue to talk with them about what more we can do. we are also in negotiations with

them about the relationships they have come a chorus with the conglomerate later steel producers. jobs in britain are dressed and we are trying to do what we can to make sure that a new arrangement is agreed that can protect more jobs in britain. >> mr. speaker the prime minister has twice told the house today that capital spending will continue to rise until 2011. the red book, the red book shows capital spending at 44 billion pounds this year, 36 billion pounds next year. when should the prime minister understands that is a cut starting next year. will the correct the record now? >> mr. speaker i explained to the house, we are bringing forward investment that was previously allocated for these later years, to 2009/10 in 200010/11 and the reason we are doing that is to give the economy out of the recession. the capital investment would not be supported by the conservative party. as a result projects like

housing, where housing that we are investing in from this monday with the announcement we made could not go ahead. i have party explain to the house that while the previous budget announcement there was a rise in capital expenditure, in the first year's more money has been reallocated so we can help ourselves of a recession. >> mr. speaker there has been a great deal of talk about-- so i would like to ask the prime minister feeca go back in time to a time where we had privacy question time twice a week on tuesdays and thursdays. it would make it much more accountable to the back benches, the questions would be more topical and we would get a good attendance in the chair. >> mr. speaker that is an idea that perhaps the speaker may wish to consult on. >> simon hughes. >> mr. speaker, more than 1 million of our young people leave education this summer, the government's rediscover commitment to trading and a

pernicious is very welcome, but it fears that many of the training schemes on offer cannot be completed in that time the government is announced. would be leading a group of us to make sure we don't confine our young people to unemployment or to fill you to gain the qualifications they need? >> mr. speaker, he should know that in 1997 there were 70,000 in britain. this year there are 225,000, three times as many so to say we have reduced the number of apprenticeships or not taking its yearly is wrong. as far as training programs are concerned on monday will announce that we would do more for summer school leavers and young people under 25. i will hope he will support the new investment we have made. i hope this party is prepared to support it even at that party is not. >> mr. neal turner. >> the government has made progress in tackling the communities in my constituency

to the neighborhood renewal form-- because they don't get the amount of money the formula tells them they are entitled to. with my right honorable friend meet with me and other colleagues in constituencies to see if we can find ways to tackle these problems? >> i understand that we did receive over 21 million between 2008/09 and-- to help tackle problems. courts i'm happy to meet him to talk about the neighborhood renewal fund and some aspects of central funding to local authorities but i do say over the last few years we of increase these resources essentially and where there is unemployment peopling the increasing resources to help people get back to work. >> mark simmons. >> in light of recent cuts to the department of health funding of 3.9 billion which was announced in the budget can the prime minister confirm what further reductions in health expenditure his government is planning between 2011 and 2014?

>> mr. speaker we are raising expenditure on health service this year and next year. he should know perfectly, he should know perfectly well that we have done so against the vice of the conservative party. we would have preferred-- mr. speaker, if we had not taken the decision to raise national insurance to put investment in the national health service we could not have the 90,000 extra nurses, the 20,000 extra doctors and hospitals we have. that decision was opposed by the party opposite. >> mr. speaker, in a few days' time the newly elected european parliament sits for the first time. can the prime minister assure me that nabrit nvp's will not sit with or semantic orientation, not sit with ndp who believe global warming is a myth or with dutch nvp goose think abortion should be abolished. which part of does support these

where those? >> mr. speaker to the leader of the opposition almost a year to admit there is a recession all over your. now that he has admitted it, perhaps he should admit there's a need for cooperation to deal with these issues. what i think people will find very sad is the conservative party on the fringes of europe with some of the extreme parties on the right wing of the european political family. >> thank you mr. speaker. news a tomas statement is welcome, but if this line flippant endemic forsen sufficiently to trigger changes in the government approach during the 82 days summer recess, will the prime minister recall parliament so that can be proper scrutiny of the government's actions? >> mr. speaker, she will know that there will be a statement made tomorrow by the health secretary on the issue of swine flu and we will make sure that at all points we are vigilant in making sure the treatment of that disease in every part of

the country is right and proper. >> gordon banks. >> my honorable friend announce the destruction of jobs in scotland, which the opposition has referred to. indeed it was mixed news, 500 job losses over two years but also 100 million pounds of investment. will my right honorable friend who everything he can to negate the loss of these jobs and billy also agree to meet with the company to discuss their continued plans for investment in scotland? >> mr. speaker, can i say that where there is unemployment we are ready to help in the measures were announced on monday will help young people and adults who are losing their jobs. where there is capital investment being made by firms, it is possible to get new capital loans that were introduced in the budget to stimulate new investment in what we are seeking to do is an investment led recovery. the capital spending we have

real-- reallocated, walleck falls in 2010/11 is vital to doing that and we will continue to back private investment in our country and these are the figures i want to make clear to the house. >> as chair of the party of the high group by become deeply concerned about the iran facing trial by the revolutionary court on the 11th of july on unsubstantiated charges with no evidence offered against them for good will the prime minister be willing to meet with me and representatives in britain to underline his and i hope our collective support of the fundamental principles of fairness and tolerance in the treatment of these and all ba'hi's in awe iran? >> mr. speaker these are difficult issues he raises and i'm sure the whole house will share my deep disappointment of the recent behavior of the iranian regime. his appointment to the manner in which legitimate demonstrations have been subverse, a

disappointment to the freedoms of the iranian people and people do to stand before close scored on the 11th of july. diss apply mattair maeneen government has expelled two of our diplomats and detained several of our embassy staff. this section is unjustified and unacceptable and some people in iran are trying to seek to use burton as an explanation for the legitimate irene voices calling for the greater openness and democracy but we will continue with their international part is to raise our concerns with iran including on the issue that the honorable-- has raised. >> following the job cuts announcement, which the prime minister assure banking staff in my constituency that he will do wealthy can to protect their jobs, and we'll be joined with me in sending a clear message to the lord's banking group that further job losses would be totally unacceptable? >> mr. speaker, i visited there and i have talked to step.

understand the frustrations of what is happening. they have served the bank well and they are the victims of what's happened to hbos in its worldwide activities and particularly its failures and other countries. we will do what we can to help the staff at hbos, lloyd dfc and we are also making it possible for people to have the facilities to find jobs in the areas and to do what we can to reduce unemployment in these difficult circumstances. that is why we set aside 5 billion to help the unemployed and that is only possible because we have made these additional allocations. >> mr. adam holloway. >> another opportunity for the prime minister to be straight with the british people, in which departments does the prime minister expect to see spending fall in 2011-14? >> being straight with the british people means talking about how we get out of recession and how we build for growth. and it is not much good the

opposition talking about 2011 when they are cutting spending in 2009/10 and 2010/11 and all throughout this debate they have refused to support the action were taken on jobs. they have no plan to come out of recession. that no plan for jobs and have no plan for growth in the economy. they have nothing to offer the british electorate but cheat died and no-- >> thank you mr. speaker. does my honorable friend believe that britain's future, we need to invest to the downturn, especially young people training and skills? will he reaffirmed his september guaranteed of education and training for all 16 in 17 years old? >> mr. speaker i don't know why the opposition but this. never been done before that

there is a guarantee for school leavers to get is cool place or in apprenticeships or work experience. some form of activity that prevents them from being unemployed. that cost money. were prepared to spend the money. the opposition party would refuse that money. in other words thousand would be employed as a result of the opposition's policy. >> clip them brown. >> mr. speaker is the prime minister with that some of the finest residential training for severely disabled people has been put in jeopardy by the decision this week of a learning and skills council not to fund expansion of the national star college in my constituency? would the prime minister agree to meet a delegation of some of the disabled students and some of the principles of the college and myself to discuss the unique situation of this college in disgust to see if there is a solution to this problem? >> i have to say that we have set aside 2.3 billion for investment in for their education in colleges over the spending year.

we put in additional 300 million into that, in the budget. i will ask-- this comes under expenditure on colleges and it needs money that would have to be provided by the government and i am saying to the honorable gentleman that i should get the further colleges minister to meet him but we have 300 billion pounds ekstrand to the investment capital buildings as a result of the budget. >> order. >> over the july 4th weekend, notable americans on c-span. ken burns on his career and the upcoming series on america's national parks.

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