he's cast the desiring vote in countless controversy lal case, sometimes siding with the liberals, sometimes with the conservatives. two terms ago he was in the majority in all 24 of the court's 5-4 decisions. in fact, he was in the majority in all but two of the court's decisions that term and his pivotal role on the court continues to this day. it's no stretch the none of that speak to the character or quality or implications of justice kennedy's opinions of course, just this morning for example the top story in washington's legal times is about the mass a delay in civil trials in the d.c. circuit that this resulted from last terms decision extending habeas corpus protections to guantanamo detainees. justice kennedy offered that opinion over the vigorous defense of chief justice roberts and justice scalia and in a 1995 case a particular interest to those of us tarek the cato institute u.s. term limits,

justice kennedy cast the deciding vote that ended the grassroots effort to have the congress less insulated from political accountability. there is no way to properly account for in one volume for more than 1700 cases on which the justice kennedy has cast a vote in professor knowles has not taken numb some herculean task. rather she is focus ton kennedy's decisions concerning speech, equal protection and personal liberty and hats from them drawn a sympathetic but not uncritical portrait of a justice wrestling with the great issues of the day in the context of the constitution and the timeless issues of moral, political and legal theory all by way of drawing out the modest libertarianism that she finds as the thread in justice kennedy's opinions. for our program today, professor knowles will discuss her book

for about 30 minutes or so after which we will have comments from one of her mentors at boston university, professor randy barnett, know what the georgetown law center. professor knowles will then respond briefly after which questions and answers, and then we will retire for lunch upstairs in the winter garden. let me then briefly give you a bioon professor helen knowles. it is a very, very impressive curriculum that she has corso byung a scholar. she graduated only in 2000 from liverpool university college in liverpool, and she graduated first in her class, the prize for the highest finally year grades achieved by a student in the single honors program in the department of american studies.

she then enrolled in boston university to pursue her doctorate, which she did in completed in 2007 with a dissertation called, a dialogue of liberty, the constitution, the classical liberal and civic education principles of justice kennedy's vision of judicial power. i asked her just before she went on whether it was libertarianism that occurred to justice kennedy or the other way around. surprisingly it was the other way round. she focused on justice kennedy and from that developed the libertarian theory that serves as the first part of her book. i will introduce professor barnett had just before he comments on the book but please join me in welcoming professor helen knowles. [applause] >> thank you roger, and thank you to the folks at cato

institute for inviting me here today. i accepted the invitation to come to this book form immediately, and then i took a look to the people who participated in previous book forms, and to say the least i was shocked because i was very much, much more junior and certainly had not published anything like as much as the people who participated in previous book forums so it is a real delight in the real honor to be here today. i would also like to thank brandan for agreeing to comment comment on my book, and i anticipate very productive feedback from him that i am sure will help me to understand a lot more about what i have in my book. imagine that it is oral argument today that the u.s. supreme

court. following esam administrative announcements, the chief justice clears his throat and indicates that the court will now hear arguments in the first case of the day. the attorney rises, the proceeds to the lectern, and offers the following opening observations. mr. chief justice, and may it please the court, i understand that this will be a difficult case for you, the court to decide. if a majority of this court believes that the correct interpretation of the leadership in the due process clause of the 14th amendment is a narrow one, that it is defined by closely consulting nations, traditions and history, then my client will not prevail in this case. in the months since the court granted social-- certiorari, escort watches and the votes of

only two of the justices were truly up for grabs. however, on this occasion, the opening sentence prompted all nine members of the court to set up and take notice, encouraged the attorney continued. if on the other hand, a majority of this court affords liberty in more responsive interpretation embodying the current concepts of individual autonomy, dignity and responsibility, then the government faces a far greater burden of justifying its actions in this case. although the scene is fictional, it addresses a jurist jif provincial reality, but the constitutional boundaries of individual liberty as defined by the u.s. supreme court in the 21st century will most likely be drawn by reference to one of the

two sects of interpretive guidelines described by about my imaginary attorney. and, in the immediate future, in closely divided cases, the prevailing interpretation will likely be what anthony kennedy says it is. if those who have tried to explain justice kennedy's jurisprudence ought to be believed this is not much help at all because justice kennedy is, according to other commentators, a flip-flopping, inconsistent jurist who is far more likely to pepper his opinions with pompous, meaningless rhetoric then with well-defined legal doctrine. my book challenges that conclusion. now, i don't play that justice kennedy hasn't overarching judicial philosophy. for he himself has said that he doesn't have such a jurisprudence.

rather, what i demonstrate is that in certain areas of the law, one can find consistency in his opinions. a consistency that comes from his employment of a modest libertarianism. now, i suspect that, too many people in this room, that the idea of describing kennedy's jurisprudence as libertarian may come as a surprise. because kennedy does not shy away from using an expensive type of judicial review. however, imagine a libertarian esam that uses the authority of the state's judges, neutral decisionmakers, to ensure that government actions by other branches of government passed far more stringent tests when they impinge upon liberty. now imagine that this is a libertarian that takes an especially the emma deal of government actions that the mean

the individual, negatively affect-- diminish personal responsibility for treat in a particular way because of their race. this it seems to me would be a libertarian that is entirely consistent with the basic tenets of libertarian thought. this holds true, even if the means to achieving that goal of greater individual freedom and respect is vigorous use of the authority vested in a governmental institutions. before explaining the different elements that make up kennedy's honest libertarianism a few words about what my book does not do. first of all, no whig dui call justice kennedy a libertarian. i think would be entirely inappropriate to call him a libertarian. he quite clearly is not. secondly, know where do i claim that all of his jurisprudence is

modestly libertarian. on the third thing my book does-- does not new is related to the second thing. thirdly, i focused exclusively on non-economic liberty. nowhere in the book to wide discuss cases dealing with such things as the takings clause. finally, the emphasis of my analysis is the justice's behavior as it appears in his words. consequently, i analyzed his speeches and his opinions, rather than counting his votes in different cases. now, if that is what the book does not do, what about what the book actually does? well, all too often the objective libertarian and/or the now libertarian are degout by commentators, particularly critical commentators without

accompanying efforts to delve into their meaning. beyond the basic observation that yes, libertarianism stands for limited government. well, justice kennedy's libertarianism is modest because just missed. walks in the run, bases-loaded and cubs win it. 2-1, in ten. >> up ahead on "espnews," andy roddick dashes the hopes of an entire nation, at wimbledon. tiger woods hosting his tournament, after a solid first-round. backed it up with another good backed it up with another good round on since 1873, coors banquet has been brewed in one place... and one place only: golden, colorado. it's followed one tradition: use the best high-country barley... and only rocky mountain water.

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roddick can't handle the big serve. murray takes the second set. third-set, breakpoint for roddick. the return here, long. roddick up a break, 3-1, in the third. murray entered, 6-2 all-time against roddick. and had some issues with the umpire there. still trying to explain what he said, showing a little bit of frustration. roddick can't come up with that point. still 5-3, roddick, in the third-set. and misses long. and third-set, tiebreak. watch roddick. volley for the winner. saving set-point there. still this the tiebreak. now, set-point for roddick. murray, into the net. up two sets, to one. murray had the edge, more aces

and winners. and roddick had more unforced-errors. but in the end it's roddick. coming away with a four set win. he said, "i have to feel for murray, he had all the pressure on him. he said he could come out and just play his game. he did that. andy roddick, third wimbledon final as the u.s. beats england on the eve of the 4th of july. >> first semi, federer. facing tommy haas. 7th-straight wimbledon semi. second set. took the first, 7-6. watch federer. uncorking it. impressive forehand winner. break point for the set. next point, following a long

rally. tommy will miss long. federer never so much as faced a breakpoint. it was a surgical performance. third-set.se serviceames. federer, serving 2-2, only chink in his armor. sort of -- touches one a bitk: o long. two goodo friends, sharing a racke lighter moment in this semifinal match at wimbledon. >> after a double-fault from tommy, federer has breakpoint. he was humble to a fault. said i never thought i would be this successful as a kid. i would have been happy collecting a couple of tournaments and collect wimbledon. he's one win away. faces roddick for the finals. second round play at the at&t national. kim, day one leader, after

firing a 62. all those shots that fell on thursday did that on friday. rimming out the 20 foot par-putt and minus-8 and then on 14. rims that one out. and he -- did shoot even par. tiger woods made a charge on thursday. he shot on the par 3, 13. within five feet of the hole. tiger would birdie that one. second shot for woods. from the think to pin high. bad ones are not close. you don't need too many when you put it there. davis loves this. 42 foot birdie. he's four-under.

jim furyk, four-under, and now, 7-under. three back of tiger woods. >> still to come on "espnews," palmeiro breaks his silence and he'll address manny, and his own there's something big happening at pizza hut. - woooh, nice! - that's a lot of food! now get big meals like our stuffed pizza rolls, pizza mia, the p'zone... and our personal panormous pizza starting at just $5. the big eat tiny price menu. only at pizza hut.

>> yesterday it was the bees and today, manny, creating the buzz. dodgers slugger taking b.p.

he returns from his 50-game suspension. l.a. 29-21 without him. peter gammons tells us how his return will impact the team. >> his return helps the dodgers in a number of ways. first, one of the best bats in baseball. second, he takes a lot of pressure off etheir, and matt kemp, and those good young dodger players, and remember, june, other than etheir, only 14 homeruns. other think he brings is the leadership of his plate discipline. fact remains, in june, dodgers add .308 on-base-percentage, and 13th in the league in runs. manny, shows his teammates that what he did, in the first month of the season was, when he got ahead in the count, batted .531, it will rub off on all the other hitters.

>> manny has played 80 games with the dodgers. getting on base with l.a., nearly half the time. his homeruns, rbi's and slugging percentage, those all rank in the top-five in the majors. >> in march 2005 congress held a hearing on steroids. mcgwire refused to talk about the past and sosa wasn't comfortable. but, palmeiro, wagged his finger. and he stated, i have never used steroids, period. that august, baseball suspense he had him for using a banned substance. he has kept quiet since and he spoke to pedro today. >> as a kid, when i was in college, you know, when i made it to the big leagues, i didn't need anything. everybody saw me. they saw what i did. they saw the kind of player that i was.

i didn't have to cheat. you know, at the end of my career, for what? what was i going to gain from it? >> you made a mistake. >> whatever i took. it was tainted. had to have been. had to have been. no other -- no other reason for me to be, unless i got set up. i don't know. >> so that was not -- >> no, i mean, the reports, you know what the reports are. what i took was a b-12 that was given to me by a teammate. so, that's all, that is it. that was it. >> what about from congress? do you have any regret, about what you said? >> no, not not at all. because i never had taken anything. i never took anything and never tested positive for anything. i'm hoping that that list comes out.

so that everyone can see, who did what and who didn't do what. because i'm not on that list. >> how much do you worry that your legacy is going to be tied to that test, when you have a 20 year body of work? >> it's unfortunate, because, i did it the right way. and i worked my butt off. and, you know, an unfortunate incident, ruined 20 years, of like you said, work. manny is a different type of player. he's a happy-go-lucky. ever since he went from cleveland, to boston, you know, he created this, image. of this guys that just -- has no worries and real happy and out there having fun. and forgets how many outs there are and throws the ball in the stands. he's a clown but in a good way. and i love him as a brother. i wouldn't want him to feel the

way i felt. and i'm glad that people see it in a different way and they're celebrating his return. he means so much to the dodgers. >> interesting comments. still sticking to his story. in philadelphia, phillies trying to get on track against the mets. 7-2 lead. they're in the top of the 8th, lopez started for philly. first big league start since 2007. that was with the rockies. and orioles. gave up on lopez. recovered from "tommy john" surgery. good job against the mets. 7-2. rollins, a couple of hits and he's getting on track. two-run double. tigers lead the twins, 7-2. in the bottom of the fifth.

that game at the met dry dome. laird has homered and young, a homerun for minnesota. >> white sox, on top of the royals, 4-0. zach greinke, starting, and against the white sox. that was entering the game. sox up, 4-0. bottom of the fifth. john danks on the bump. >> top stories on the way, latest from san diego. pregame apology. what he is sorry about and what

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coming up on o's xtra, the he is their the american league rookie of the month. we'll look back at nolan reimold's month. we'll take a at the orioles outfielders. not only a threat with the bat, they are a threat with their arm. game two of the series in anaheim, and rookie david hernandez makes the start as the birds look to draw even. it's the angels, it's the o's, it's you, me, and rick, and it's o's extra right now.

another beautiful night in certain california. welcome in, it's o's extra, presented by at&t. at&t, your world delivered, as the orioles getting set to take on the angels tonight. it is game two of this four- game series. birds looking to bounce back from last night's 5-2 loss. here is the pitching match-up for tonight. it is a battle of right- handers. david hernandez looking to even his record at 2-2. he goes against santana, who is 1-3 on the year. the any gems are hot, they've won 14 of their last 19 games. welcome in. it is gray suit night here on o's xtra. jim hunter with rick dempsey as the orioles look to bounce back after dropping it 5-2 last night. orioles have lost two in a row and four out of five. is this the streakiest team in the major leagues, or does it just seem that way? >> i think we're seeing a lot of differences in the ball club

this year. especially the veterans, guys like melvin mora, who has been streakier than in the last few years, and brian roberts. these guys who set the table, aubrey huff. they're the ones who set the table for this whole offensive ball club, and of the been through their stretches this year with really not doing much offensively, not driving in runs, not hitting home runs. luke scott, actually the one that everybody thinks is so streaky has been more consistent than most of them, because when he's not hitting home runs, he's get something other hits, and the dess dee fence will go four or five games without making any errors, and then do some crazy things and make some big errors. and the base running, too. five or six games good, and then run themselves right out of a big inning. the bullpen has had their problems, too. all of them have good numbers, but all of a sudden they'll be null and void for a week, and no real consistency that you can bite into that will

attribute to a long winning streak. >> one player who had a very consistent month has been rewarded. that's the orioles left fielder, nolan reimold. let's get more from amber. >> amber: hello, jim. nolan reimold is the exact example of a home grope success story that the orioles have been looking for and hoping for, and looks like few they have it. he was jordan's first draft picks back in 2005. he came up up there the system. he wasn't a highly-touted prospect until he started hitting a couple of years ago, because he had some injuries. he was patient, he was determined, and now 45 days into his big league career, he has been named the american league rookie of the month for june, and it hasn't just been june. right now, he is dominating rookies as far as batting categories. he is leading american league rookies in batting average, home runs, on base percentage,

and also slugging percentage, and i talked to nolan about the fact he came up with a group of rookies, with brad bergesen and matt wieters, and how having them here has helped him. >> once matt got up here, he's the guy who gets all of the attention, so i was left to just do my thing, and i think that helps out a lot, and i think having us all together up here at the same time really also helps us be comfortable, and when you're comfortable, then you start playing well. being up in the big leagues, everything is really magnified, and everything counts a lot more, so you really just want to play a solid game. >> and look at the numbers for june for nolan reimold. he's batted .320 this. month with four homers, 9 rbi. and his average is raised from .267 to .298 during june, so nolan reimold just having some

success. because of everybody focusing on matt wieters, as noel be said. he feels like he's been able to do this thing up here. dave trembley set that izturis is close to going on a rehab assignment. he said he will be with the team here in anaheim. did take batting practice today and yesterday, and is feeling a lot better, and dave is deciding on whether to send him to a rehab assignment after this series, or after the first game in seattle, and he said realistically, we could see him back for that toronto series before the all star break. >> izturis has to be upset he can't play this weekend with his brothers in the angels linion, but caesar battling back from an appendectomy. here is a look at the starting line-up.

one of the match-ups we'll be looking at tonight, rick, and nick markakis against urban santana. >> jim: well, markakis just seems to be very patient against santana, and looks for pitches to hit, not overanxious against him, and santana has been giving it up to him. a lot of big hits for the orioles, too. not just the singles, but most of his hits are extra base hits. he gets in a good hitters count, and santana comes to them, and that's what you're supposed to do as a good hitter. you wait for the opportunity where you have the pitcher in the hole and look for a certainly pitch, and this is what nick has been able to do. >> for the red hot angels, here is their line-up tonight. it will go against david hernandez, and shawn thanksgiving is a -- figgens is

the lead-off man. one on rivera one of those quiet guys in the al west, but has he come out strong for the angels as they have gotten back tow in top of the division in the west. >> this is guy is a bit of a sleep term he has always been overshadowed by a lot of big names. witt the yankees, it was jeter, poe saw dough d.a., didn't even think much about juan rivera being in the line-up. he's had three years in a row where he hit 12, 15, and 23 home runs. he's had an 85 rbi season. he's a quality hitter and looks for pitches. by the end of the season, you say who is juan rivera? he's the guy that just beat you three or four times. you have to watch out for this

guy, because he has a pretty good swing, and he's got some power. >> tonight game two of the four- game series. when we come back, we'll look back on last night's outing by jeremy gigahertz. bjeremy guthrie. fios guy! where ya headed?

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>> >> i tried to get the pitch in, but he was better than me today. just bad pitch selection, bad sequence. for the most part, there was a lot of executed pitches. you can't take much consolation for that when you lose 5-2, and i take full responsibility for that, but when i look back and see the 118 pitches, for the most part, i threw the majority of those where they warranted, and tonight it wasn't good enough. they hit the ball and won the game.

>> he has allowed a lot of home runs. 46%, nearly half of the runs he's allowed on home runs. look at the rest of the o's starting rotation. only 38 off home runs, so 27% of the rest of the rotation coming in off the long ball. obviously is jeremy guthrie understands that. you don't mind if they're solo home runs, but last night the three-run home run really did him in. now as far as he is concerned, the long ball and what you are looking at, what are you seeing with him? or maybe the better question is, what are you not seeing with him, why the ball continues to leave the ballpark? >> you have to realize that jeremy guthrie cannot do this all by himself. tell me right there that he's not looking for the fastball on the outside corner. so why give him a fastball that he can hit right there. all he was looking for, and you

can tell by his body language, that he was pulling off the ball a little. he looks at it, but he is kind of fingerprinting with his -- fidgeting with his feet. the catcher didn't give him a good target, up in the zone, it wasn't in or up far enough, and you gave a great hitter an opportunity to come back and pull himself off the hook by getting a good pitch to hit, and that's what he has made a living doing off of mistakes like that. jeremy guthrie. back in '88 when mcguire and canseco came up, they would pigeon toe. you have to see that. when they pigeon toe, they are looking for the ball on the outside corner. when the they opened their feet up, they were looking to the ball middle in. so you pitched them the opposite way of what their feast was. each one of them only got one hit in that world series, so

it's something they gave away what they were trueing to do. and i think same thing with bobby abreu, his body was pulling off, just stay away until he makes the adjust ., and he would have been okay. >> and with matt wieters only in the big leagues about a month, he is obviously still learning these hitters. doesn't jeremy guthrie as the veteran in this pitching combo, doesn't he pretty much have to guide the ship? >> he does, but he's 60 feet, 6 inches away. he's struggling to throw the ball where he wants to throw the ball. anybody else who is watching him, has to help him, too. you can't just leave it for guthrie up there by himself. because you can see for the first time in his career, he's really struggling to accomplish what he's trying to do from the very beginning, so it's not working, so everybody has to pull together. sure you're going to make mistakes, and this is something matt wieters has to do, he has to go above and beyond to help guthrie to get through a lot of innings. you have to read that. you know that in the minor

leagues when you see guys come up. jeremy guthrie has to start doing those kind of things. >> when we come back, we'll take a look at the orioles outfield. not only can all three of the outfield errs hit, they are a threat defensively. o's extra presented by at&t continues. geico's been saving people money on car insurance for over 70 years. and who doesn't want value for their dollar? been true since the day i made my first dollar. where is that dollar? i got it out to show you... uhh... was it rather old and wrinkly? yeah, you saw it?

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well, nick markakis one of his 8 assists there. he is tied for the american league lead with those 8 assists. adam jones has five, and reimold already has two to assists. you soar see their fielding percentage, all very respectable, and this trio has

done an outstanding job. jones has taken charge in center field, as the center fielder needs to do, in only his second year. markakis now in his fourth full year has already established himself as a gold glove caliber right fielder as the orioles outfiledders not only do it with the bat, but with think glove. their coach is john shelby, and amber talked it over with shelby. >> amber: well, john, i know you have of how much you have worked with the young outfield, but when you look at the talent out there, and you see how far not only adam jones has come from last year to this year, but just nolan being named rookie play err of the month this month, telling me how this group is coming together, and where you think they'll compare in the future to some outfields? >> well, right now, i don't even look at where they'll compare in the future, i look at them right now, and i true lee believe they're probably one of the best threesome in the outfield in the major leagues. i look at reimold, his addition

to the ball club, along with jones and markakis, and just the tremendous strides that he's made. we knew he could hit, there are a lot more thing his needs to work on, but from what he's tone rot now, i think he's beginning to receive a lot of recognition and people are going to know who he is. >> we saw you working a lot with adam. we would see you moving around as different hitters came up, because he was getting used to hitters here in the american league. now we see adam joing nolan kind of where to go. as a coach, do you enjoy watching that and seeing sort of one player growing and passing that on to another? >> oh, to me, it makes me really proud of our outfielders. jones has shown me this year he's capable of moving the outfield, as he knows the like a lot better, and i've allowed him to do that, and if there comes a time where i need to move a runner or outfielder,

jonesy always looksy n, but he's the captain, and guys that laugh, because everything that guys up, adam jones wants to catch with and sometimes it appears that he's in right field or left field taking their balls, but that's what the captain does, so i love it. >> so john shelby works with theout fielders day-in and day- out. when you go in the field every day, you can help your team defensively, and this trio does it. let's break them down starting with the least experienced, reimold. >> well, i think reimold has an advantage over all of them. he gets to watch one of the best, markakis, do his job. and it's amazes how mechanically perfect all three of these guys are. they get themselves in good balance. every position has a rig. and timing, and i think that's what you notice most. he has really picked it up from the other two guys on his left, how to come in on a ball. you have to slowdown and make good, good throws to the plate. this guy in center field.

you see adam jones, he is learning the position very quickly, just like he does offensively. he has a very good sense about himself, and the outfield, his rig. and timing is getting better every day. i've noticed how much better his throws are 0 the plate now than last year, and nick markakis in my mind is the best. everybody gets an opportunity to see the best work. they all get good jumps on the ball. they all have pride in what they do. look at the rig. and the timing of a nick markakis and how much power he has when he lets go of the ball. he waits that last second and then gives it his all. doesn't rush to the point he catches the ball, and rushes and throws the ball all over the place. he's pretty much around his target every time. >> and in the case of joins and markakis, you would see what they were once upon a time. adam jones wases a short stop. he has that kind of an arm. nick markakis whereas a pitcher with a mid-90s fastball, ask

you scan skein that, the velocity he sends that ball to the plate. just amazing, and no doubt helps the orioles. right-hander david hernandez goes for the orioles tonight, and urban santana will be on the mound. when we come back, rick will break down the pitching match- up as the orioles look to get even in this series. it's game two of a four-game set.

well, tonight is game two of the four-game series, and the orioles looking to draw even, what do they do? they hand the baseball to yet another rookie, david hernandez. >> of all of the rookie trio that the orioles have up here in the starting rotation, i i had a talk west the minor league pitching instructor, and he said this guy here is stronger and more deutschele than the other two guys, that we have not yet seen the best of hernandez. 95 miles an hour. he can work it up in the zone. we just have to get him deep in. >> ball games and get him comfortable, but this guy is going to pay off in the future. he has already showed us he bears down with men on base. yeah, he has got himself in some trouble, we've seen that. but with runners in scoring position, the opposition is only hitting .167.

>> and as you can see, it's patriot quick weekend for the 4th of july. the orioles have on their red patriotic hat. >> nick markakis has got some great numbers, maybe not a great batting average, only .278, but he's 5 for 18 off of santana with two home runs, two doubles, and 7 rbis. get somebody on base in front of nick tonight, and let's see what nick can do. >> all right. now, for us to try to have even more fun, i mean we have a lot of fun, and that's true, but rick came up with an idea to pick a player of the game, somebody that he believes is gonna have a breakout game, and he has challenged me to come up with a player of the game. what we're going to do, we're going to keep track somehow. don't know the rules, but somebody is going to keep track and we'll see which of us can predict the future better than the other. so since it was your idea, you start tonight, who is your play inventory watch in this game. >> my player toronto is going to be melvin mora. two days off. he's also had three multi-hit games against the angels in a

row. he's 5 for 15 off of santana with a home run. so i think melvin mora is poised to have the biggest night of anybody in that offense tonight. >> my player to watch tonight, brian roberts. here is why-he's 2 for his last 27 with 10 strikeouts. he's too good of a hitter to go 2 for 27, but it's happened. i think batting left-handed against santana, brian robert has a big game, he is my player to watch tonight. we have the infielders. i have the second baseman, you have the third baseman. >> they're probably going to pitch around nick markakis anyway, because santana know his stunt want to throw him anything good to hit. >> rick and i back with o's

extra post-game. the post-game show will be blast. we'll see you later. 

 last night at any jil stadium, the angels opening up a four game stand, and we the bats of the angels alive. tonight, the orioles will try and take game two. david hernandez in the rotation. can he win a ball game and keep that job? we'll find out.

welcome. southern do is the home of the los angeles angels of anaheim, and game two of our four-game series. the o's in town on a seven-game trip that will also take them to seattle. hi, everybody, i'm gary thorne. the road has not been a pleasant place for the or yeahs to play baseball, and again last night, a loss, jeremy guthrie almost there. couple of bad pitches, and the ball game is over. so back tonight trying to take game two. the numbers do not lie. you see the average at home and on the road. it is the large effort differential if the american league, with runners in scoring position, an enormous difference. home runs different. on the road, look at the differentation. melvin mora, matt wieters, markakis, and they are but three of a number of or yeahs

who struggle to get hits and runs on the road. jim palmer, it's indefinable as to how those numbers can be that different. >> jim: it really is. it's a little different when you're not at home, have to come out earlier for some batting practice, but, you know, maybe, maybe the orioles need have somebody step up like bobby abreu. came into last night's game with only four home runs. really good month of june as far as rbis, not a lot of power, but somebody to step up like he did, hit a solo home run, 3-run home run, and make a difference in the ball game. >> the any gems numbers over the last month have been outstanding. >> well, they have. when you look at what they've done and the batting averages have done, the batting averages are pretty much the same, the runs, maybe a run a game, and the eras are about the same, so the quality starts. so i a fin, the orioles maybe

not winning, don't have as much speed. the angels number two in stolen bases. the orioles are 13th. >> gary: now, with the chance for hern an tez to stay in the rotation will depend on how he performs tonight. it may be in another start, but he's got to battle in order to keep this spot. >> jim: rereally does. it's a great opportunity. iwahara goes down. if he does come back, will probably be late september, confuse him in the bullpen. so it's a great opportunity for him. the problem is when you're a young kid, he's got a great arm, his great pitches are invisible fastball. it looks faster than it is. his best secondary pitch is a change-up, but in his last start against the nationals, he

kept trying to use that curveball. me p had help bow problems, his pitching coach mike bumper said he's coming back, but maybe his stuff not quite as bat. so they angels want him back, the orioles want to keep hernandez in the game. but oh orioles just have to step up offensism on the road, something they haven't done almost all year long. >> gary: another goodout on hand. in southern california, it is actually a nice night. unbelievable. we'll be right back. now everyone has the fastest upload speeds. and we're giving them a mini netbook. well, i'm sticking with cable. so's ted. (voice) no i'm not! he's just goofing. (voice) no i'm not! (sighing) ted has betrayed me. (announcer) switch to verizon fios tv, phone and internet today and get an ultra-sleek compaq mini netbook. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities

 . >> gary: we are underway. robbers are gets that one the gap. one away. >> jim: when santana is healthy, he's going to be in the 16, 17 win range. 22 runs in his last four starts. one of those starts, he only

gave up one run. again, elbow problems, you don't extend, velocity not quite as sharp. knew and he got him. jones gets hit. that will be the fourth hit batter for santana this year.

>> gary: the orioles were quieted last night, eve though they got a couple of runs, they came at one . the top of the order last night for the orioles did nothing. adam jones got robbed on a couple of times, he could have had hits, but 1 for 16 with five strikeouts. one extra base hit, luke scott, and you see the 5 for 32 for the o's with through 1 for 4 with runners in scoring position. very quiet over the last 18 innings, and again, quiet at first base. jones diving back in. >> jim: the orioles have good hits, but they don't hit near as well on the road. we showed tote you last night, runners in scoring position, average, runs per game. home runs go down. everything goes down. >> gary: a therefore on the way to markakis, and santana gets it in there for a strike. markakis has pretty good numbers against santana.

he's gone 5 for 18 with a couple of home runs off the 26- year-old right-hander. nick would like to get it going. he's one of the many bats in the line-up that has struggled a bit, but he has 7 rbis off santana as well, so he's been a nemesis. santana is concerned about joins over there at first base. adam doing a good job of drawing throw. then orioles have not been running much of late. 5 for 8 stolen bases for jones. dave trembley, talk being the game today, really wants to try and pick up the running game a bit, to try and get people moving, which he hopes will generate some offense. jones leaning, not going. markakis to short. tailor-made bounce. everybody is going to be safe. a chance for aybar, tough hop, it came up and caught him in the chest, but had he been able to cleanly field that ball, it was double-play. >> jim: yeah, except it is a short hop and hit wait lot of spin. it will be interesting to see.

it could be a base hit. no, they give him an error, but it was not an easy play, so the orioles catch a break here in the 1st. >> gary: the orioles get runners on at first and second base with only one down, and the cleanup batter aubrey huff coming up. aubrey huff had a 1 for 4 in the ball game last night, but he's only had two hits in his last 17 at bats. dropping that average down, and when he's not hitting, the rbis aren't coming for the o's, and that pitch is inside for a ball. so santana is going to have to work hard here in the first inning already, not helped out. the inning could easily be over if aybar makes that play. >> a lot of times you like to pick up your teammates. can you do it to the heart of the order in the first inning. >> gary: no, that one will fall in for a base hit. abreu will get it in. that was the the air long enough, they had to wait and see, but the bases are loaded

for reimold. >> amber: today reimold was named rookie player of the month. he right now leads american rookies in five different batting categories, including bats average, home run, rbis, on-base percentage and slugging percentage. dave trembley said they expected him to hit here in the big leagues, but what has been most impress before serve the way he has worked on his defensive skills. shelby has been a big part of that. and reimold said he was excited to get the award. >> gary: he's got the bases loaded right now, and the orioles get a chance to jump out on the angels. wile show you the numbers that won him that award in just a moment. the delivery to him. here are the numbers he had for the month of june. >> jim: yeah, glowing. and i had an advance scout call

me today and say i didn't realize he ran as well as he does, throws as well as he done. john shelt birr was take bite it, he said how delightful to be a first base coach and out field keep and get to work with reimold, joans, and markakis. >> gary: and the pitch will be taken up high. did he go around? strike called by paul emmel at first base. and let's see what that looked like. >> jim: and this is the angling that paul emmel has, and this is what he's looking at. does the bat? and he didn't swing. and it obviously puts him in a whole at 1-2. but kids company see any body language, slump his shoulders? not one bit. >> gary: the count 2-2. >> jim: what a difference between being -- the count would be 3-1, and they had gotten the call right, so it's a huge difference. >> gary: you want to take advantage of this inning for the orioles. >> jim: you do, but reimold says, hey, called it a strike,

i'm going to have to deal with it. >> gary: reimold on a check swing. part of those numbers in june for reimold, he hit .400 with 4 home runs and 15 rbis with runners in scoring position in the month of june. last rookie of the month award for the orioles was nick markakis. that was back in august of 2006. jones, markakis, and huff are on. a 2-2 count. and the delivery to him, reimold swings and misses, and santana gets an enormous strikeout. >> jim: well, he really does, and early on his n his hitting, 39, last two pitches at 95. good fastball hitter, just blows it by him, outside corner of the plate. so the question is, when you have a ligament strain in your elbow, can you extend, can you get to your velocity, can you command your pitches? did a great job against nolan reimold. >> gary: