military forces to work strongly to deal with the terrorist and insurgent right in pakistan. but we also need to combine that for the sake of the long-term building up structures of civil society in pakistan which for a variety of reasons is weak and that requires us to invest in education and economic development in that area. so, i see the afghanistan and pakistan strategy as complementary. i think the work that we've done to bring president zardari and president karzai together we will be holding the friends of pakistan meeting in september that we will convene to get other countries to support pakistan in this effort. now that they've started to take on this in surgeon threat and terrorist threat we have complementary action in afghanistan and pakistan and then get some help the objectives we set can be achieved. >> i would agree with all of that prime minister. >> thank you. we now move on to andrew miller.

>> iran has been described with regard to middle east peace and recently richard bolten said its not exceptional to talk foul of iran. their behavior and ambition provoke strong reactions and they certainly seem to have reacted britain's position in recent pronouncements. i want to take the number of aspects. first of all, on the nuclear debate referring back to the paper that was spoke about and has been published today that says they grant supply access to nuclear power and commitment isn't to proliferate nuclear weapons as the key part of that. and again, dalton says on a

different issue proposals for both sensation their body enrichment in its territory and offshore enrichment facilities are nonstarters. is there any way that we can bring iran into the negotiating arena on a nuclear enrichment? ..

terms on which they would be prepared to open negotiations predicated on when the political turmoil at guys down there came a first of all iran has got to meet its obligations to him and rights and freedom of assembly and speech. i just repeat that we still have a one person who works and iran and not yet released. and we have expressed concern about the way that demonstrations have been dealt with but it is the responsibility of iran to run their own elections but the international community is trying to say that where freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and individual rights are restricted that this is

something that concerns us. i think over the next few months we've got to make iran aware that the entire international community cannot simply accept without taking action of sanctions with development of nuclear weapons. >> but that will not preclude them having enrichment program? >> if iran it is prepared in to work on civil nuclear power and abandon its attempts at nuclear weaponry than the world is ready in my view to make arrangements to work with them. >> and finally on the nuclear issue that presumably is predicated on acceptance of at proper levels of inspection -- inspection? >> my idea for renegotiation of the nuclear non per inhalation jd is the burden should be on the city tour to the today that agrees it will not proliferate,

to prove they are not relating and at the moment we have to try to show that iran the country to the non-proliferation treaty is developing a nuclear capability and so we have to send in inspectors and ask for information, we have to ask for this and that and reluctantly dealt with. in the longer run a red dealing with somebody states that will not want to or do not want to proliferate, i think it's important to say that the obligation should be on them to prove they are not proliferating. >> let me move on. and he may be aware of the preliminary research undertaken by the professor about the election results which rather suggest that to say the least the figures published are very unreliable. as a result of bad, it looks as

if it's going to be some considerable time before things settle down within iran. that will continue to have problems force including for example of our own foreign employees in the embassy which as you say is still detained. what is the strategy for seeking to protect our employees, not just in iran but another embassy is an unstable positions like this? >> first of all, we have decent security for them but suddenly the whole international community has got to say about every embassy in every country that they will come together to support anyone who is either a rusted or unfairly or alternatively detained without explanation. i think it's important that we have the support of the european union and the g8.

everybody's saying it was quite wrong for embassy staff to be treated in that way and it did send a powerful message that the whole international community felt the semi. >> thank you very much. what about the middle east? prime minister, the israeli prime minister has aggressively if seven that there will be a palestinian state but israel has not freezing the settlements and in addition there are still a real problems about humanitarian access to gaza. what can we do, what can the courts had do, what can international community do to deal with the crisis at the moment? >> i think it is absolutely clear that our view and in view of other countries that we do need a complete freeze on settlement construction. it is in line with israel's road map to the evidence, that that would be a basis with which

further peace discussions could began. i have sent this to prime minister netanayhu come i met with them in jerusalem before the elections and talk to him subsequently. i think is very important that the israelis to recognize that international opinion is of the view that in addition to the commitment which is welcome to the palestinian state, it's important there is a visible symbol that a peace process could work and that could come i think, first of all, from the settlement of destruction -- construction. >> but are we waiting on the u.s. to put pressure and for that pressure to be effective or cannery and the eu and other members of the courts had to do anything else at this stage? >> i think all of us are putting pressure, recognizing, of course, that israel must have guarantees of private security, recognizing that palestinian state cannot be bio unless it's

economically viable. i think there's a general consensus amongst the international group that has been involved with this is going to happen and i believe that the talks that president obama has called in washington our import and i think that the batch has the potential of in the next foreign. george mitchell is doing a huge amount of work in the region and he has support as tony blair and efforts some one. >> one of the problems is gaza and the fact that there is a very limited access and some people said it is like they're almost like a prison in the sense that people, in and out and tony blair when you're speaking before massaleit committee a few weeks ago said that the businessmen have not been able to leave a gaza for several months until he managed to make arrangements for that time. and now clearly there are real difficulties. how can we get better access to the border crossings into gaza?

>> that has been the difficulty since the conflict. and a large number of efforts have been made by me and other people of persuasion to show that this can be done, and i believe when i talk to dealing with this issue so there is a very common view that we need the access that gaza has got to be able to work economically and with god to persuade people that is the right thing to do. >> but as long as gaza is under the control of hamas and there is the west bank under control of the palestinian authority leadership do think there is any possibility wallis and hamas is in control of gaza that there will either be real access to the people in gaza or through a peace process which adulate

mr. incredible and possibility of a palestinian state? >> the deadlock has to be broken in some way. i feel like if the israelis were prepared a two freeze settlement construction and there would be a response in the arab world and i think that as a way that you can see movement forward could happen and that would unlock some of the problems you were talking about, but i think it's the moment people are waiting for that next page and, of course, of the talks president obama is having with prime minister netanayhu are going to be important for that kim i but there is no solution on the gaza because egypt has failed and there is no agreement between the palestinians so isn't this situation can credibly bleak. >> the situation is difficult and was always going to be difficult after the conflict in gaza which was tragic in itself, but the deadlock has to be broken and it seems to me that one of the ways that we can and

think ourselves into a new position and workers of santa new position is if there was an initiative taken by israel there could be a response from the arab world and that is what i look forward to in the future. >> i would like to explore the u.k. change a policy in relation with hezbollah. our ambassador in lebanon met the hezbollah chief on the 18th of june, days after the majority lost the 14 alliance to win the elections earlier. that they should not question hezbollah role as a resistance party, legitimacy of our weapons arsenal, israel as an enemy state, which is clearly a breach of the u.s. security council resolutions and also show something of a disregard for the democratic process in lebanon. in laying out and challenging the election. why are we underlie the democratic process in lebanon by

these contacts with hezbollah? >> well, i don't think we are seeking to undermine the democratic process in a lebanon para i wouldn't undertake remarks out of context and and desires to support democratic development in lebanon and i have talked to to all those in lebanon in such a way i think we need the democracy of the spanish team to be more stable and. >> could i ask you about the recent concerns over the spare parts to israel and purposes? we don't send in to israel anyway, it is usually spare parts to other countries supplying. a sum of five licenses with a vote at a packed together paris is there an arms embargo in israel or not? >> i can't confirm in detail the issues that you have raised, the

five contracts and i will write you on that. >> can i go on to the question us rely them, prime minister derrin on the tenth of july the times reported about 1,400 refugees are dying every week in the largest of the idp camps. we know that this relates to government has blocked. excess. the red cross and other agencies have an order by the dormant two scaled-back the humanitarian operations and journalists were banned from the camps as well as murdered elsewhere on. sri lanka cannot run concentration camps and expect the world to look away. sri lanka has been impervious to all the representations made about humanitarian access, about open since the transfer is a. none of us support them but not just what is happening to civilians in sri lanka. what are we doing to raise the issue with them? putting pressure of the

suspension and making sure that sri lanka can get humanitarian rights? >> i have talked to the president of sri lanka and i've been concerned about the humanitarian problems that have arisen from the numbers of internally displaced people. we think the number is about 280,000 so it is a very significant number of people. in moving from what you might call an emergency situation to some form of civilization in these camps but conditions are basic and people do not have the access that is necessary to all the facilities and are required. there are high levels of malnutrition overcrowding and inadequate water and sanitation facilities so i accept everything you say about the problems. we have provided substantial money to help with humanitarian assistance. we're concerned about the lack of freedom of movement of the people in the camps, the restrictions that are put on the activities. so our aim is to encourage the

government of sri lanka to cooperate with the humanitarian agencies to help people on the ground, to lift the practical restrictions that are still being imposed on people in the area. and i think you'll find in the minister will make a statement on these matters can mack could we also say what we're trying to do to make progress toward a political solution in sri lanka because it is a difficult process. problems will reemerge and other territories. is and it's about time the sri lanka government recognize the right to the people of self-determination. >> this is exactly the position to have an end of the military conflict. it does not mean that the problem has gone away, it's got to be dealt with politically and by discussion and negotiation and some form of conciliation. in that is why we are anxious

wine our envoy to the area has a chance to talk to all the different groups but that is why we are putting as much a prisoner -- pressure on the president that this is that to be seen as a step toward a means for a political solution can be found in. >> thank you, final question prime minister. in the european union council, the leaders have reached a formal decision providing guarantees to ireland on the lisbon trading. yesterday i received a letter from foreign secretary which confirms that parliament will have to pass a bill before the u.k. can ratify that the protocol. can you explain why given that we spent all those months in 2008 hours and hours and hours debating the lisbon trading but we have now got to her quote again on a protocol which we understand doesn't in any way changed in a lisbon trading, but we have to quote audit in order

to bring into effect this decision, the ratification of this decision which was taken by the european union council? >> let's be clear, what is going to happen is if the referendum is a yes vote than they will move to ratify the lisbon treaty itself. if all the other countries are due to ratify do so than there is is the lisbon treaty will come to existence. in the next point in which a country is entering the european union whichever country that is in the house to be a treaty, then attach to that will be a protocol that confirms thwart -- confirms and a sense explicitly what has been implicit in the relationship between the european union and ireland. they wanted assurances about aspects of the training, not affecting them. just as we get assurances about that and asked them to be set out in a protocol the european

council agreed to but it is not a requirement to the protocol be passed by law in all parliaments before the lisbon treaty is an active. >> so to be clear, this means that this would only require legislation in this parliament at the time of a theoretically croatia or iceland application? >> i don't know which the country will be. >> but several years down the line to make it depends when that secession happens but the agreement is that would be attached to the next trading and that is a clarification of ireland's position in relation to the your opinion but it doesn't fundamentally change to the lisbon treaty at all. >> thank you kim and thank you very much, this is but a session of extremely good questions and answers but there's one question outside the same that is asking at the end of pierre out of.

>> prime minister, when you have your real when is on your reading list? [laughter] >> i seem to have read a few selections of their reports, but i would prefer to read fiction and. [laughter] >> thank you very much, prime minister. order, order. >> associated press is reporting a couple of senators announcing how they are going to vote on a the nominee for the supreme court. if they are reporting that senator olympia snowe voted yes in the minority leader mitch mcconnell will vote no, centers martinez of florida and lugar of indiana tonga also in support and ap is reporting also that senator mcconnell plans a speech on monday in which he will say the 55 year-old appeals court judge past statements demonstrating an alarming lack of respect to the notion of equal justice. and an update on our schedule, the healthcare bill passing a

couple of committees late last night early this morning, we will show the entire markup for ways and means, house ways and means tonight as 7:30 p.m. here on c-span2 and head of that at 3:00 o'clock eastern white house briefing with spokesman robert gibson, will have that live as well. on the issue of health care from this morning's "washington journal" a discussion about how things are going in the energy and commerce committee. >> host: joining us congressman tim murphy of pennsylvania, the associated press reporting must morning colleagues in the ways and means committee in the house voted late yesterday early this morning and chile to approve the tax provisions of the house bill which would impose 544 billion in new taxes of the next decade on families making more than $350,000 a year. what is ahead for the energy and commerce committee? >> guest: the energy and commerce committee will start the market today and going through a number of sensitive issues of eminence, will be revealing a wide range of regarding the delivery of care

and reforms. anything from something i have put in that makes things more transparent and hospitals have to reveal such things like infection rates so you can make an informed choice, issues of allowing physicians to volunteer, committee health centers, but also a number of things should members of congress have to have the scent of a plan. should we have of a government-run plan, should there be other ways of doing this, but the key is basic differences on what we're going to do with in terms of reforming the system or paying for the system. >> host: your kind enough to bring by the bill itself that you are looking at an energy and commerce, h.r. 3200, and look at the front at least our viewers are taking a look and i want to move it so i can get a look at the spine and the actual thickness of the reading that you and your staff have to do or should do. >> guest: is bigger than most on books and as a previous versions. reviewed and there is a new version. here is an important thing about

this when you compare to help with your doctor. if you go to see your doctor and the dr. says your medical history is too big, and not going to have time to read it not time to do tests and said and talking here about your concerns and here's your prescription and what i advise, you think your doctor is strange and then when you say aren't you going to take the time to review what i mean and he says i've got a time deadline you'd be pretty 45. something this important that is going to affect our health for decades to come i want to make sure we are not seeing this as the urgency takes precedence over doing a thorough way. i'm concerned about that right now because i want to make sure we're making real reform to make health care more affordable improve quality. >> host: is a too urgent to get it done? the president would like to take separate bills that is before the august recess, is it too quick to get it done before then? >> guest: i think we should be taking more time to review this the early. we have not have specific hearings on this bill, we did have some time in the congressional budget office but

that time was limited when allison an earlier version. we're not far to have a score on this bill and not have a score of the new managers before we do these things. it is like buying things without looking at a price tag in analyzing them deeply concerned a want to make sure we're doing