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this event is about 45 minutes. >> the book is called "the uncrowned king: the sensational rise of william randolph hearst." and it started out, in my mind, simply as a story about a newspaper boy. i was interested in a newspaper competition. i'd been in a bit of one in canada between two national newspapers. i got interested. newspapers don't really compete anymore. most of them are in monopoly. i started reading back in newspaper history, and you can't read far into the history of newspaper competition without coming to this enormous war in new york city. hearst comes to new york as a young man, a virtual unknown age about 31. he takes on a pulitzer who at
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the time is a towering fear. quite literally he had at the time the biggest building in new york city, the world building, 16 stories, the tallest commercial structure in the world. it was an emblem of his success as a publisher. he was a formidable figure and a great newspaper man. and this young upstart, hearst, comes into town and starts a competition with him. they go head-to-head for three years during one of the most interesting, exciting periods in the history of the city and the nation. it takes us through the 1896 presidential election which was william jennings against william mckinley, generally considered the most exciting campaign in american history and certainly the first modern campaign with the whistle-stop tours and his
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charismatic figure as we has, perhaps, seen until obama. hearst played a very crucial role in that election as the only publisher in the whole of the northeast who was supporting. right after that they find themselves in another sort of war over cuba which is generally considered one of the low points in the history of american journalism. i personally think it was one of the greatest things in a newspaper has ever done. first advocating u.s. intervention against spain over cuba. we can perhaps talk about that more later. but that was america's entry to the world stage and a crucial event in the life of the country. the really exciting episode in
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the newspaper war in new york at the time. by the end of about three years hearst had emerged not only as the largest circulating publisher in the city, but the voice of the democratic party in the u.s. and the voice of the left really in the u.s. at the time. he went on to found what was the greatest publishing empire in america. it was comprised of about 28 daily newspapers and a bunch of magazines. after a radio network in addition to his motion picture empire. of course hurst on the blocks of manhattan real estate, ate, as . all started with his success in new york city. that made the empire he built possible. that is generally what the book
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is about. i'll leave it to allen to guide us through the rest of the conversation. >> there are a number of ridings of hearst. what was it that convinced you there was more to say? >> well, it was the way other biographers treated his journalism that got me going on in. the general take on hearst is that he was of failure in his chosen profession. a failure as a journalist, and that he succeeded as a newspaperman to the extent that he succeeded by taking the low road, appealing to the lowest common denominator, a cheap sensationalism. a lot of sex scandals and dirty laundry and cheap gossip. he titillated the masses with this kind of content. sort of cynical ly built an
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audience in this manner. he is never given credit for a moratorium is journalism. initially i did not quarrell for that view. first there was going to write about the newspaper war, but he became the central focus of the story when i began looking at his newspaper and looking at the quality of the journalism. you can't see it without, you know, on every page it is evident that this is a guy who had a very strong sense of purpose. he really was deeply concerned for the welfare of the con man and for the average citizen tizn of new york. he was crusading on their behalf. day after day of fighting what he called the malefactors of the consolidated capital and against all sort of corruption and government. so he, i think, had very strong
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will and strong voice and determination to do good with the newspaper. and that had not come out at all in any of the biographies. i thought that needed to be corrected. >> and why did you think it hadn't? >> well, there are a few reasons. one is that when you do a biography of hearst, he lived a long life. he lived 80 years. he did a lot of things in his life. as i mentioned, he was in movies, radio, publishing, a very interesting personal life. so you begin to write about all those things. we tend not to get too deep in one area. so a lot of the biographers when it came to write about his journalism looked at some of the memoirs of people who had been around at the time and looked at what a lot of his critics and his rivals have said about him because they left the most
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records. and a lot of it is unflattering. there is a lot of competitive bitterness in it. and if taken at face value that is one of the reasons why i don't think he got a fair shake. also over time he changed, and his journalism changed. it wasn't as good over time in the '20's and '30's and '40's as it was in the early part of his career when he was the hands-on editor operating his own newspaper. when he became too big to be closely involved in any individual title i think quality suffered. also he got active politically just after this period. and his politics began to interfere. not so much that his newspaper was promoting his candidacy, but they were read by people as promoting his ideas and his
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candidacy. and i think his credibility as a newspaperman suffered a bit for his political activities. >> so is it your sense that prior biographers, i hate to say were too lazy to do, basically not go back and compare the quality of his journalism to what his competitors are doing at the same time? >> well, i spent a lot of time looking not only in his paper, but looking at what other papers are doing. just to give you a small example, biographies often critical of the fact that hearst routinely abused his political and journalistic rivals in print, in his own newspapers. he was keeping insults on them, personal insults. and he was reporting on their
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failures as newspaper man. every time they got something wrong he would run the story and it. so people would get this in his newspaper and think, well, you know, that is kind of cheap and tawdry behavior. they criticized hearst for it. go and look at all the other papers, and they are all doing the same thing. that was just the way journalists operated at the time. they were sniping each other all the time. they policed on another. they watched each other very closely and are very quick to point out one another's failings. now we have single newspaper towns, and we have those sorts of things. supposedly serve as watchdogs. >> hard to emphasize how revolutionary ken's book is. i think it is the first biography in 90 years that has been sympathetic to the guy.
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you have suggested some of the ways that you found an admirable professionally. how about personally, what is to like about him? >> well, again, i didn't have any particular feelings about him one way or the other when i started. it was when i started reading his letters to his family in particular, that is when i got a different sense of him than had come out in the biographies. there are two general takes on hearst. one is the sort of citizen kane take. this is a guy who is a bit of a monster. he was aloof semi colon and ruthless and disappointed in his own life. then there is another school that sees that he is being sort of cavalier and reckless and in it to make money and a great showman, but has no real substance. but in both cases he is fairly
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cynical and not terribly attractive character. and when i started reading the letters, i am hesitant to read from the book, but i am going to read one letter from the book that he wrote his mother. he was traveling to europe on a ship. his mother, phoebe hearst, is a very impressive woman in her own right, one of the leading hostess in washington at the time. a great philanthropist. been giving away millions in her husband's money for years. she has a bigger reputation in the world at the time than her son does. and she wants her son to go out and be a regular english gentleman and marry into a good
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family. wanted the title. he would have none of that. this was a letter he wrote her. lady canard is on board. she is at my table. she is a mess of things, but kind of lightheaded and chatters lovely with the turkey gobbler by the name of dennis, a jiggering idiot by the name van alton and he does not make anything except a wholly sure of themselves. i could have told her i had no other reason, the present company would furnish enough. she is in bad. she certainly shines intellectually. indifferent to your wishes i took thomas along. he has been very valuable so far as keeping my mind occupied looking after him. he comes in every morning and wakes me up when i want to sleep. i don't see him anymore for the rest of the day. fortunately i am a natural-born
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american citizen able to look after myself. all i object to is the money he is costing me. he will foot up $1,000 before the trip is over, and that would enable me to bring home an egyptian money, something intrinsically valuable which would make full good of the promise in a pinch. anyhow, it would not wake me up in the morning and would stay put. so he has got a sense of humor. he is bright. he expresses himself well. their is a charm rm there that i hadn't seen before. the more you read his letters, the more you hear about how he works, how he operates in the news from, the more that comes out. so that was part of the project. presenting hearst as i found him, as a fuller, more interesting human being. >> and if his life still mattered somehow, what it does somebody gain from learning his
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story? >> i found it really interesting the way he worked and how dedicated he was to his craft. it would have been a very easy for him to make another life for himself, to just take over some of the family mining businesses, to go into society, as his mother wanted him to. he found something he loved and pursued passionately. he became very good at it. it brought, i think, a lot of meaning in shape to his life, and he did a lot of good in the world through it. so i think that is a story a lot of people would find inspiring on a human level. >> and since he didn't have to work and was rich, was the motivating force for him the love of his profession? what made him tick? >> he really liked the business. he led to no other place so much as is news from. he would just hang around with
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his reporters and his artists and talk for stories and look at page crypts. occasionally he would go out and cover stories. their is a big murder in town he would go out with his his murder investigating squad and survey the crime screen. when the spanish-american war started he covered it in person most reporters went over with the army or navy and traveled with the troops. hearst rented an enormous yacht and took his coat and his butler and his girlfriend. they all went, and he covered the war. >> in the subtenant's of the book you say the uncrowned king. i know that hearst and pulitzer working the people. what are some of the things that they did as demonstrations of
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their power, their hubris that would seem incredible today? >> most famous for a sense of the erecting the statue of liberty. when the statue itself was given to america as the present by france it did not come with a base. nobody knew -- the city would give money for it. the federal government would give money for it. it was just lying there. pulitzer ticket upon himself to raise money from his readers and the public to build the base for the statue of liberty and contributed to the raising of the city's most famous monument. and all of them, hearst, pulitzer, every time there was of a snowstorm, there was a fire, there would be out gathering blankets and supplies for the victims.
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hearst was occasionally, when he was involved in an issue, he would not just report on it. he would sometimes go to court to get injunctions against, for instance, politicians who were about to get transit franchise to the people who were undeserving on terms that were inappropriate for the city. so he was active in these sorts of ways. and much stronger, braver, and more energetic crusader than any newspaperman we know in our time. >> in terms of their willingness to exercise their power and take unilateral action i was thinking something like the evangeline cisneros woman.
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>> yes. hearst was trying to dramatize to his leader's the plight of the cuban people. bids in the lead up to the spanish-americans or. at the time spain was trying to put down a rebellion. they were going about it in very harsh ways. one of the victims of spain efforts with this young woman, evangeline cisneros who was thrown into jail for being sympathetic to the rebels. and hearst played her up who as a blameless cuban who was mistreated by spain and started an international campaign to have her sprung from jail. when that didn't succeed he said some reporters over to the chilly spring her from joe.
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they rented a room across the street from the prison. in the dark of night they scrambled across by makeshift board or ladder and pried open the bars. he brought her back to new york. it became an international incident. not a usual thing to do, to go into a foreign country and spring somebody from prison and bring them back to your country. >> how about his willingness to bore up the suez canal? >> well, he didn't actually do it. he considered it. there was a point at which spain was sending its navy to cuba. hearst felt that american ships there were threatened by this. so he devised a plan to sink it
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in the suez canal to slowdown the spanish fleet. eventually he thought better of it and backed out. >> did you say earlier you don't think there is anyone remotely like him on the scene today? >> no, there isn't, i don't think. there are some big people in the media world. rupert murdoch is the one who most immediately comes to mind. but one of the things that really distinguishes hearst is that he was, i think, a great newspaper man, and not just an honor or proprietor. he actually could run his newspapers better than anybody who worked for him. he had just enormous talent as a journalist. and i think he had a much stronger sense of the public could than has ever been credited to murdoch.
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>> going back, it is kind as if the enquirer said it was going to get bin laden. when you think about it, why couldn't the inquirer say it is trying to get bin laden. if somebody were to do today some of the actions now how do you think the world react? >> there were 48 newspapers in new york. seventeen in the afternoon and the rest in the morning. when after a story they sent everything after it. twenty or 30 reporters was not uncommon to go and chased down a murder. and if there was a scandal involving a politician, same thing. it was just a full-court press. and having an advantage over your competition was really important, really crucial. against those charges.
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>> but in 2004 union officials told ortiz and all of the players on the list that government agents had collected their names. >> we specifically told the players we don't know how the government compiled that list, we don't know why your name is on that list. we don't know whether you tested positive or negative in 2003. >> while that information is under seal now, eventually the case will come to a close. if the government wins the lease could be released to the public. but if the union wins, weiner says they would probably turn individual results over to the players who ask for it. that way ortiz and everyone on the list will be able to tell the world the truth about those tests, whether they choose to or not. at yankee stadium, t.j. quinn, espn. >> the leak of the 2003 test results came on july 30 and ortiz homered that night, then the next day. it's been a struggle over all in
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the eight games he's 6-35 or .171. even worse, he's two for his last 28. espn the magazine with buster olney with the potential fallout from big papi's denial that he ever purchased or used steroids. >> david ortiz says he didn't do steroids. now, i don't know if that's true or not. david ortiz is the only one who does know. but here's his problem. so many players in the past have been down this exact same road and so many have been untruthful, whether it's jason giambi saying he didn't do steroids. whether it's rafael palmeiro jabbing his finger at congressmen and saying i did not do steroids. or alex rodriguez telling katie couric he didn't do steroids. in tend, in the court of public opinion, players have lost the benefit of the doubt. >> still to come, josh hamilton's exclusive interview with espn. what he's saying about his alcoholic relapse.
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approach. green. used the force. there you go. bring it back. that would lead to a birdie. tiger moves to four under. then on 15 woods on a little bit of a run here. putting from the fringe. that's a birdie. he's at five under now. on 16, tiger's third shot on the par five. check out the approach. over the water. friendly roll. that would lead to another birdie putt. like he sees the ball and says just come back. >> he has that kind of power. >> he does. he closed with four birdies on his last six holes. tiger shot a third round 65. he was tied for the lead when he walked off the course. he's not in the lead though. the man in the lead is sort of man who stole tiger's thunder when tiger was recovering from that knee injury a year ago.
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paddy harrington won two majors a year ago. this year zero top ten finishes on tour. in fact hasn't finished a p.g.a. tour event under par since april. but paddy had three birdies and a four hole stretch from 12-15. he shot a 67 in round three. your leader heading into sunday. tiger and paddy the final paring. said harrington i was trying to put as much room between me and the rest of the field but in the end there's probably never enough room between you and tiger. >> albert pujols and the cardinals aim to go hand the pirates a seventh straight loss. top six, up 2-0. albert clearing the bases. he reaches 100 r.b.i.s for the ninth straight season. cardinals 5-0. they have won eight of their last 11. final count, 5-3. pujols 1-5 with three ribs. bases loaded double made him
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8-10 with five grand slams and 27 r.b.i.s with the bases loaded this season. how good is that? his slugging percentage is off the charts with the bases juiced and it's the best in the dwingsal era. when you break it down further it means he's averaging better than a double per at-bat with the bases loaded. >> the lead-off spot, it worked. just the fifth time this season first since june 22, 1-12 in the lead-off spot. 3-5 in saturday's game. that's an r.b.i. single to score miles. makes it a 6-4 game in the seventh. his ninth of the year. we go to the ninth. the rockies down to their final out. carlos gonzalez strikes out swinging. colorado sees its 15-game win streak against the a.l. central snap. dempster picks up his first road win since april 12. he had 12 road starts since
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then. and the cubs >> the dodgers have allowed the n.l. west race to get a little more interesting, dropping nine of 15. top 10 we go, braves and dodgers, guillermo mota served up a meatball to kelly johnson. two-run shot, his first career extra-inning home run. bottom 10, same score, one on, two outs for andre ethier. double to right. juan pierre crossed the dish. dodgers trailed 2-1. next batter, manny ramirez. intentionally walked by rafael soriano. two on. next batter, matt kemp. up the middle. yunel escobar, diving stab, and is able to get kemp at first. game over. braves hold on to win 2-1. they've won 4-5. the dodgers are 6-10 in their last 16 games. cl an out for the braves in the bottom of the seventh. >> the six men enshrined into the pro football hall of fame
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were all visionaries. ralph wilson jr. saw what pro football in america could be. rod woodson saw a football field like kasparrov saw a chessboard. bob hayes ran so fast you hardly saw him. randall mcdaniel a blitzing linebacker. and fear in a quarterback's eyes. >> in the beginning, i had no desire to play football because my first love was basketball. my agility and speed on the court convinced my coaches and friends, like andre, that i would be stellar in football. after much duress, i surrendered and decided to give it a try. the first day was a nightmare. the second day, i quit. cal called my house on that day and spoke with my father. after the conversation ended, my father came and asked me, "son, why weren't you at practice today? are you sick?
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is something wrong?" i answered, "no, sir. football is just too hard. it's too hot, and it's too painful." my father gave me a look that i never will forget. and in his baritone voice, he said, "son, whatever you do in life, don't ever quit." my father's words resonated with me, and in that moment i decided to commit myself to every endeavor. that was one of the defining moments of my life. >> derrick thomas loved football. he loved people. and he loved life. today does culminate the life of a great nfl player. who did so much both on and off the field for his community. a life that ended too young. >> look at the crowd that could head into canton next year.
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>> as for ronnie white -- roddy white, the falcons wide receiver he's getting a six-year $50 million contract extension. the wideout held out for the first week of training camp. last year white set the franchise record for receiving yards. >> still to come, two months ago landon donovan criticized david beckham. why there was nothing but togetherness at foxborough saturday night. plus, josh hamilton addresses his troubled history with alcohol abuse. ♪ lollipop, lollipop,
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>> good and evil are constantly in war and the battlefield too often is the heart of man. josh hamilton is all too familiar with the struggle. drugs and alcohol cast him out of baseball and nearly ruined his career. but his redemption song last year told us he had conquered his demons but apparently not entirely. >> this photo, one of several show hamilton drinking and partying with women at a tempe, arizona bar. this happened in january, before spring training. hamilton won't be disciplined by the rangers.
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on saturday he did address the incident saturday with espn's colleen dominguez. >> it is what it is. something that happened back in january. you know, i resolved it with the people that i need to resolve it with immediately, after it happened. i called my wife and i called the rangers, you know, my family and told them what had happened. so it didn't go any further than that. >> is that the first time you had fallen off the wagon, if you will? >> yeah, it was, and it was pretty devastating for me. you know, obviously i felt horrible about doing it. but at the same time it was a valuable learning lesson for me, too. it made me realize that no matter how far i think i am away from it, one drink just doesn't work with me. >> have you been sober since the incident? >> absolutely. absolutely. it was definitely an eye opener
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and, you know, i've drawn closer it over to him and continued to help me through this and same thing with my support system. you know, they're in place for a reason, to use them. they know me as good as anybody. so i'm just thankful i have them. >> such an important time of the season for this team. how much of a distraction do you think this could be going forward? >> it's not a distraction. you know, i'm actually surprised something hadn't come up before now. so, you know, you never know. people look to make a quick buck and i put myself in a position to make that happen. you know, especially being in the public eye. you know, you hate letting people down but, you know, you make mistakes and just learn from them and move forward from there. >> and finally, what do you say to fans and people who follow you in the organization that may have cause for concern now? >> just don't give up on me. you know, i am human. i still make mistakes.
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and i have my issues and battle with different things, just like other people do. just so happens i'm in the public eye. but, you know, i just want to thank people for prayers. i've already got text messages and stuff and people supporting me. so i appreciate it. >> hamilton's ranger facing the angels saturday. l.a. just 2-10 against texas this season. bottom seven, 2-2 game. not anybody. erick aybar off everyday eddie. aybar's fifth of the year. the angels go up 3-2. in the ninth, rangers down 3. hamilton at the dish. 2-3 at this point. aybar the divi mark langston bak in 1992. >> nascar nationwide series
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stopping at watkins glen. lap 43 mennard making contact with brad keselowski and mennard spins out. he can't get out of the gravel. meanwhile kyleg busch comes out first off pit road. 34 laps to go. kyle busch passes david ragan on the lead. for 19 laps to go. marcus ambrose makes a hard charge on busch. busch tries toth block and goes off the track. ambrose takes the lead. busch goes back to 32. a blown tire brings out the caution. busch can't catch ambrose who crosses the line to finish. frustrated busch taps ambrose on the victory lap and the incident
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even copying my style. what's up with that. becks is a team player. sees his teammate go down, comes right up to the opposing player, gets in his face. restrained by landon donovan. teammates. friends. b.f.f.'s. what's next? >> maybe he would like to step in the octagon. ufc 101, middleweight champ anderson silva with forrest griffin, silva knocked down griffin with the left. silva says, "want help?" later in the first, silva letting griffin swing at him then throws a quick right. out cold. 10th consecutive victory. a ufc record. "i'm king of the world."
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